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Episode 55

Weird Science | S2E13

40th ANNIVERSARY: Today we’re booting up 1985’s Weird Science—a teen fantasy where two nerds use a computer, a doll, and a lightning storm to create the woman of their dreams. It’s chaotic, cringey, and peak John Hughes in all the best and weirdest ways.

Today's guests are Chad Robinson and Russell Guest from the Retro Movie Roundtable podcast. Check them out:

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and welcome back to

Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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Today we are booting up to 1985 for weird

science, a teen fantasy where two nerds

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use a computer, adult, and a lightning

storm to create the woman of their dreams.

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It's chaotic, cringey, and Peak John

Hughes in all the best and weirdest ways.

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Returning to the show, we have Chad,

along with New to the show Russell,

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but both from Retro Movie Round Table.

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Thank you both for joining

me for my season two.

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What have you guys been up to on retro

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movie Round table lately?

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Russell Guest: Well, we turned 300

episodes, so that's pretty exciting.

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So we're in our eighth season

and we hit the 300 mark.

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Chad: episode.

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Russell Guest: Chad kept saying we

had to cover the movie, 300 for 300.

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And I kept trying to avoid it

'cause I don't love it as much

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as everybody else, but it still

worked out and I think we had fun.

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I tried to stay positive

anyway, so, but yeah.

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But Richard Movie Roundtable, we're

still covering movies that are 10 years

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or older and we go all the way back

for as far as whoever knows how long.

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So we've even covered a few

silent movies along the way.

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Largely we hit the nineties and

eighties, like where you're spending

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your time here on Retro Made.

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Katie: the best in my opinion, but

I mean, I'm not biased for anything.

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Chad: It is the demographic it works.

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Russell Guest: Yes.

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So, but we also will, we'll

hit everything in, in between.

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So

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Katie: So Chad joined me

last season for Ghost Boost.

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Chad: Yes.

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Yeah.

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That was a lot of fun with Lizzie.

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Katie: Yes.

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Chad: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: And you guys will have to go

check out Retro Movie Round Table,

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because yours truly has guested on their

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show.

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A couple just once.

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No,

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Russell Guest: twice Mystic

Pizza and Willy Wonka.

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Chad: Yeah.

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Russell Guest: Soon to be

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Katie: Pizza.

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Russell Guest: soon to be rocky.

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Katie: Ooh, is that the one that you

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Russell Guest: Mm-hmm.

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Chad: Okay.

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Katie: Oh, okay.

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So you guys go check it out?

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I am biased, obviously.

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Mystic Pizza, great movie,

Willy Wonka, great movie.

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And I'm like maybe one of

the biggest Rocky fans ever.

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So come check us out over

on Retro movie round table.

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All right, you guys, season two, we have

a wheel that we spin for the time capsule.

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So let's open the time capsule from

August of:

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Yes, that is 40 years ago, you

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guys.

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40,

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Chad: bad.

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Yep.

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Russell Guest: It's the year

of my birth, so that's, yeah.

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It feels bad for me too, Chad.

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Katie: 40 years ago.

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I'm going to share the wheel.

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Spin on your behalf.

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Now, we did already cover 1985 in

the Breakfast Club episode, so we're

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gonna spin the wheel if we came

to a category we already covered.

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We're just spin again we have

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back in the headlines.

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All right.

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Hmm.

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Which milestone in reproductive

technology occurred in:

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groundbreaking medical procedure

that resulted in the world's first

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child conceived outside of the womb.

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Chad: Oh man.

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Russell Guest: Well, it wasn't me.

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Chad: Not in August.

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Katie: This, I remember this being

like oh, oh, remember the first

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blank, blank baby

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Russell Guest: Test tube.

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Katie: Test tube.

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baby

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Chad: Yeah.

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Russell Guest: was really reaching there.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Katie: The, first test tube baby.

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Now I know you guys are a

little young, but you know,

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Chad: appreciate that.

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Thank you.

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Katie: I was already

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born.

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Was four here.

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Russell Guest: Not in a test tube.

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Chad: No,

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Katie: in, yeah, not in, not in a

tattoo, criminal known for a string

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of terrorizing crimes in California.

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In California was finally apprehended

after eluding authorities for months.

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Chad: 1985.

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Russell Guest: 85.

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Chad: was it?

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Russell Guest: That's

late for Manson, isn't it?

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So,

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Katie: yeah.

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He.

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If I recall correctly, it was like

the neighborhood kind of helped

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capture him.

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Russell Guest: I'm terrible with these

murders now I'm really actively avoid

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Chad: Yeah,

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' Russell Guest: cause I like to

just think that things are okay.

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Chad: Tag in Lizzie,

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Russell Guest: yeah, I don't,

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Chad: Uhhuh.

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Katie: So I totally I've seen

the documentary about it.

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It's

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Richard Ramirez.

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Russell Guest: I don't even, yeah, that's

the first, that, that's a new one on me.

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Yeah.

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Katie: Okay.

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Well if you're not true

crime, then that would, yeah.

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Okay.

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You should get this one who

became the general Secretary of

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the Communist Party of the Soviet

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Union in 1985.

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Russell Guest: Is this Gorbachev

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Chad: Yeah.

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Katie: What's his first name?

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Russell Guest: Mikhail?

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You

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Katie: Okay.

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All right.

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one more from this

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Russell Guest: didn't ask

me which side of his head.

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His birthmark is on her.

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Katie: Oh geez.

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Do you know?

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Russell Guest: I dunno.

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I do share a birthday

with him though, so I

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Katie: Oh, really?

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Chad: a weird bit of trivia.

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Russell Guest: I know

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I had to do a history paper on my

things that happened on your birthday.

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Katie: oh.

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I was like, how do you even know that?

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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Okay, 1985, the FBI took action against a

powerful group of criminals in New York.

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Who were they?

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Russell Guest: the

criminals or the people?

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Uh,

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Katie: The, the, The powerful

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group of criminals.

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Russell Guest: The sticky bandits,

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Chad: Gotti family.

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Russell Guest: I dunno.

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Katie: You're closer, Chad.

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It's much more vague.

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It is the five

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Mafia families.

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Chad: Okay.

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Russell Guest: Okay.

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Katie: All right.

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You guys aren't very

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good at this category.

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Russell Guest: No, I, I like to think

things are okay in the world, so I

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avoid knowing things that are bad.

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Katie: let's spin again

see, oh, let's see.

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Retro runway.

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If one material dominated

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Russell Guest: Spandex.

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Katie: Good guess, but

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Russell Guest: Oh man.

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Katie: Chad

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Chad: Velcro

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Katie: also a good guess.

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No, you guys are thinking too hard.

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It's denim.

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Chad: denim.

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Russell Guest: Oh, did never goes away.

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Oh,

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Katie: know jeans were everywhere,

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but they weren't just pants.

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They were?

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jackets,

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Russell Guest: Yeah.

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I had a jean jacket.

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Katie: acid, acid wash and stone wash.

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Denim became especially popular.

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Adding a grunge twist

to the classic fabric.

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Denim jackets were practically essential,

worn, oversized, and adorned with pins and

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patches.

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Do you guys remember that?

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Russell Guest: Flair.

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Yeah.

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Katie: with

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all the pins and patches?

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Russell Guest: You had to

have enough pieces of flair.

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Katie: you

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were babies or are not even born yet.

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Chad: yeah.

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Russell Guest: had a

jean jacket, definitely.

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I mean, I didn't put a lot of flair on

it, but I mean, it was, it was around,

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Chad: it carried over.

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I

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Katie: it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Chad: outfits.

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Katie: Plus we're in the

middle of the country, like

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you, we're not on the coasts.

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So it takes a

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little longer for things to get to

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Russell Guest: I definitely

had, I definitely had plenty

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shares of jean shorts.

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I don't know what, what

point those became.

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Not cool, but I definitely,

I'll say that I had js.

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Chad: Oh

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Katie: jorts.

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Chad: yeah.

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That lasted well into

like early two thousands.

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I feel like.

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Katie: Now I will say,

it says double denim.

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Yes.

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Denim on denim was no longer a

fashion faux pa, but a sought after

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look with celebrities and everyday

people alike rocking the style.

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Chad: It just reminds

me of Super Troopers.

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What's with the Canadian tuxedo?

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Katie: Yeah.

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Or let's do one more.

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'cause there's a lot to get

into with weird science.

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Ooh, ooh.

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This should be fun if we

haven't covered it already.

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Chad: Russell's worst decade from music.

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Katie: Boombox bangers.

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You guys, these are the five top

songs for the whole year of:

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I will give you clues,

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but do you have any guesses off

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Chad: Something from Prince

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I know that was 84.

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Um,

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Russell Guest: uh,

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Katie: From Prince.

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Chad: from Prince in 85.

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Wow.

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Russell Guest: I was gonna say it's,

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Katie: in the top

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10, but not the top five.

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Russell Guest: yeah.

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Chad: Cyndi Lauper.

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Katie: guest.

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Somebody very similar.

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Russell Guest: Is this a aha take on me?

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Maybe.

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Katie: No.

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Chad: That would be, yeah, from

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Katie: are two songs in

the top five from the

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same band or group.

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Russell Guest: Two,

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Katie: the number one song.

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Here's your Clue.

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A saxophone riff that became

iconic paired with a ballad of

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regret, propelling two British pop

stars into global superstardom.

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What was the name of the song?

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Chad: Was that careless whisper?

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Katie: It was Chad.

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I'm impressed by the

guest, given that clue,

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Chad: I mean, the saxophone

is just that's iconic.

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Katie: and that is wham

featuring George Michael.

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Chad: Does

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Katie: Now the num

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Russell Guest: I I didn't have it.

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I'm sorry.

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Katie: good.

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Chad: Ru

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Russell and Wham do not go together.

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Russell Guest: I prefer the, I prefer the

see version, but don't throw things at me.

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Katie: The group wham, also had the

number three song overall in:

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Any guesses?

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Russell Guest: Does it wake me up?

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Katie: Wake me up

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before you go.

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Go.

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Russell Guest: Oh, it is that, yeah.

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Katie: So that the number

one and number three.

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Wham.

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Okay.

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Number two, a dance anthem

of innocence and passion.

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Where a singer with a revolutionary

fashion sense introduces a bold

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personal declaration of new love.

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Chad: Madonna.

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Katie: Yes.

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What's the song?

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Russell Guest: Material girl.

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Chad: Well,

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Katie: Bold, personal Declaration of Love.

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Chad: I would've guessed like

a virgin, but I think it's

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Katie: It's,

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it's like a version.

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Yeah, like

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a

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Russell Guest: Oh, Okay.

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Katie: Okay.

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The number four song.

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heartfelt power ballad that

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merged rock with emotional yearning.

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Its title becoming a Metaphor for

the Search for Deeper Connection.

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It's a

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good song.

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Russell Guest: Power ballad

looking for deeper connection.

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So it's not su su studio.

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Katie: The group is foreigner.

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Russell Guest: Foreigner.

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Katie: helping you at all?

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Chad: mean, they had cold as ice,

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but that that wasn't

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Russell Guest: Hmm?

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Katie: I wanna know what love is.

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Russell Guest: did.

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Foreigner,

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Now this last one I wouldn't get

'cause I'm just very unfamiliar, but

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maybe you guys will get it Number,

the number five song for:

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A funk fused song that merged

soul and pop with a forward

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thinking sound giving, a legendary

vocalist, her most memorable hit.

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Russell Guest: fuck.

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Chad: Funk and si.

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Yeah.

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I'm, I'm thrown off by the funk.

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Katie: It'll make sense

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once I say it, but

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Russell Guest: Yeah, the hers making me go

to Whitney Houston or Tina Turner, or and

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now, now I gotta get the funk in there.

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Chad: with Rowan.

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Rowan down the

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river would sort of make sense.

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Katie: It's

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Russell Guest: just so much early.

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That's not even eighties.

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That's before that.

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Gosh.

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Cindy lamp, the, the funk thing.

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It's really throwing me off.

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Taken me out of all of my

female eighties artists.

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Madonna's not gonna fit that.

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Katie: No.

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Nope.

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We give up.

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Chad: give

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Russell Guest: is, yeah.

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I don't know who's, who's the funk Female.

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Katie: Chaka Khan.

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Russell Guest: Oh, okay.

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Chad: okay.

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Katie: feel for you.

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I never would've got

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Russell Guest: No.

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Katie: with her, so, but yeah,

I feel for you by Chaka Khan.

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All

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Russell Guest: Great.

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Katie: Did pretty good on

the rest of them, so nice.

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Thank you for playing with me,

even though you were far too

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young to remember, if at all.

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Chad, were you not born yet in 1985?

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Chad: 90, 84 for me,

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so,

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Katie: 84

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Russell Guest: Yeah,

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Katie: for

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Russell Guest: so you should,

so you should have done a little

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better than me on that, Chad.

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Katie: Yeah, I mean,

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Chad: on the music than you,

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Katie: you did,

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Chad: which I

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Katie: did.

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Chad: won that bet.

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Russell is our music guy.

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Katie: This season, I'm not gonna

ask you about Patrick Swayze or Kurt

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Russell.

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Chad, but

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Russell Guest: That's a shame

because we're crazy for Swayze.

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Katie: Ugh.

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I know, I know,

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Russell Guest: John Hughes.

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I love John Hughe

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Katie: do you guys think?

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What's, what's your history?

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What do you, how did you first

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discover him?

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All that stuff.

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Russell Guest: first, discover him.

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Chad, do you wanna go first?

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Chad: I feel like first

discovery was on like TBS reruns.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Chad: John Hughes marathons and so

you run into the National Lampoons.

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I didn't really associate him with

Home Alone until we wound up covering

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it on Retro Movie, so we covered that.

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I'm like, oh, he was a

producer behind this.

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So getting to come to that, but,

you know, breakfast Club pretty in

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pink, 16 candles, all of that was

just, you can't even find it anymore.

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I don't know if they do it anymore, but

it used to be an old day thing and you

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would just catch whatever you could.

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Russell Guest: For me, I think the first

one I probably saw was probably Mr.

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Mom, but I definitely didn't

associate it as being like a

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anybody's effort necessarily.

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So home Alone was a big deal for

people of my age group, and like

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a lot of people would say that

that was their favorite movie.

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Back when it came out.

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So Home Alone was a big one.

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Uncle Buck was probably where I'm

starting to pick up the name and

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starting to make connections and

start to say this is this is somebody.

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And then later down the line, I didn't

come to Ferris Bueller until like as

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a teenager probably, which is fine.

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'cause I think you appreciate

it more than anyway.

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Katie: Yep.

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Russell Guest: So Ferris Bueller

and breakfast Club, I think.

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I think Breakfast Club is where it's

just like, this dude's a good writer.

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This is really, really good.

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I actually.

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Beethoven was another one of

the early ones I mentioned.

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I left off as a kid, so I don't think of,

I don't think of his, I don't think of

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like Baby's Day Out, Dennis the Menace and

like Beethoven, some of the later stuff.

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So I probably actually came to

some of that stuff even earlier.

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But when it all started to connect

was when I, by the time I got to

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Breakfast Club and like Uncle Buck

and stuff like that, I was going

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back as a teenager and getting them,

I mean, I didn't realize National

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Lampoon was him, her for vacation.

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So I mean, everything

he's done makes me happy.

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Maybe until towards the end.

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I think some of the family entertainment

kind of things were semi disposable

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for the late nineties, but certainly

through the eighties and into the early

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nineties, he was absolutely on fire.

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Everything he does is outstanding.

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Amazes me.

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He's such a fast writer every time

we've covered one of his movies.

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He like writes these

things in, in just a week.

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And then this one, I think this,

what we're covering today is

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two days time, which is amazing.

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So, I mean, i, it makes

me feel unproductive.

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Like I can't get much stuff done.

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So I mean, two to,

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Katie: I'm like, I need a nap.

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Just listening to that.

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Russell Guest: I'm an architect and I've

been working on the same building for

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three years, and it's still not built yet.

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So, I mean, it's it's it's amazing.

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Chad: Russell gets paid to

drag his feet though, so

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Katie: Mm.

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John Hughes, man.

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Without further ado, I

think we should get into

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weird.

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science.

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this came out August 2nd.

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, 1985.

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Breakfast Club came out

in February of:

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sucker came out six months later.

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And , those are two of

my favorite hues movies.

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So I am just like, it's just

wild that these two movies came

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out in such close succession.

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And apparently Hughes was not very

happy during the filming of this

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movie because it interfered with

him working on the Breakfast Club.

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But he agreed to direct it

because Universal gave him a deal.

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We could also direct what he valued

more, which was the Breakfast Club.

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So that was the deal he made.

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This is PG 13 and it has a 6.6

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on IMDB and he both directed

and wrote on this movie.

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And there are a few other writers

which is a little unusual.

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But this is like you guys

said, another instance.

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We hear these stories all the

time about him writing so quickly.

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Were you familiar with the other

two writers, Alf Feldstein,

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and William Gaines at all?

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Russell Guest: I've not

done a deep dive for them.

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No.

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Katie: I had never even

heard the names before.

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But they're both known for sci-fi

and horror comics and also writing

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for Mad Magazine and a couple

episodes from Tales From the Crypt.

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So they must be collaborators.

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They kind of, they, 'cause they

have a very similar writing history.

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Russell Guest: So this, so

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Chad: because this was at a comic

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adaptation, right?

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It was

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like

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Russell Guest: it's a made,

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Chad: comic.

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Russell Guest: yeah.

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Made from the future with

feldstein contribution.

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Right.

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So that, that comic strip

that you're talking about,

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Chad: Yeah.

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Russell Guest: right?

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Yeah.

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Or there's a comic book.

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I, I actually didn't, but yeah.

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It's a comic.

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Right.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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If you guys haven't seen weird

science in 40 years or if it's been

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a while, I know it's been a while.

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For Chad, how long

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has it been since you saw this Russell?

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Russell Guest: I definitely saw it in

high school and I thought that, you know.

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I caught it on tv.

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I thought it was more

edited maybe than it was.

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I saw it again, you know, uncut

in college and definitely was

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still pleased at how it held up.

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Not on tv,

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Russell Guest: I just probably

haven't come back to it, probably

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in, it's certainly been, you know,

15 years or something like that.

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In my head, in my head with all the

changes and what is funny and the

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line of comedy is always moving and

the line of comedy has moved a great

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deal since this movie came out.

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So I was a little bit worried

for it coming back to it

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saying has this not held up?

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Or is it gonna be full of things

that you wouldn't do today?

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Or is it cringey And I was kind of

relieved and said you know what,

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there's a lot you wouldn't get away

with doing in that same way today,

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but it's also not, it's not egregious.

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It's not, it's not like it's

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Katie: No.

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16 candles

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Russell Guest: right.

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It, it but, but Hughe has this warmth

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to his writing that we've talked about.

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We talked about the speed.

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It's funny, but it's not just funny.

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He, he makes you have positive

feelings and connect to the characters.

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So there's, there's a positive

quality when you watch a lot of

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Hughes's work that, you know, his

ability to make you feel the feels.

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And even though this is a total

absurdist movie, there's still

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growth within the characters.

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And,

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Katie: Oh,

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Russell Guest: and

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Katie: a, there's a moral aspect

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Russell Guest: I.

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Katie: Or a, or a, maybe not a,

maybe morals not the right word,

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but I mean, coming of age, that's,

you know, that's Hugs notorious

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for that, but there's, there's

definitely some learnings that happen.

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Some.

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Life advice that is learned

from this in a very strange way.

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But I very unlike you guys, this

is I'm giving away my thoughts,

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but I absolutely adore this movie.

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This is one of my favorite movies.

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I think it's my second

favorite John Hughes movie.

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literally owned it on VHS and then DVD,

and now I own the digital version of it

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and I, so this is one of those that I

just keep buying, over and over again.

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But if you guys are not like me, and

it's been a minute, the description

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of weird science is too high.

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School nerds use a computer program to

literally create the perfect woman who

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promptly turns their lives upside down.

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All right, let's get into the cast here.

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Anthony Michael Hall, very

common Hughes collaborator.

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What do you guys think?

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Michael Anthony Hall.

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Chad: Oh, he's, he's wonderful.

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I mean, him and John Hughes just.

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Go together.

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It's, it's funny that he had to get

out of the National Lampoon role

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of rusty just to do this movie.

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Then kind of creates that curse of Rusty's

a different person every single time.

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Which is a fun gag I guess.

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Katie: is.

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Yeah.

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Chad: yeah, he's wonderful.

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And Russell had linked that interview

of the cast reuniting and just to

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see what a good time he had and the

camaraderie he had with his castmates.

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That was just wonderful.

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'cause a lot of times you revisit these

movies and I don't think we've ever had

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it on a John Hughes movie we've covered,

but people were complaining, oh, the set

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was awful, or Co coworkers were awful.

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Seemed just everyone had

a fondness for each other.

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Katie: Great point.

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It was nice to see that.

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Thank you for sending that Russell.

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We'll talk a little bit more about

that reunion clip that, that you

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shared of the three main castmates

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Russell Guest: Anthony,

Michael Halls young.

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This.

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And it's nice to see somebody

who's actually young and not a

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28-year-old playing an 18-year-old.

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I think that there's something really

nice and refreshing about that.

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Even though this movie's older, it's

hard to say it's refreshing, but it

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is cool to see actual young people

playing young roles and for a young

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person to, what I wanna say is Anthony

Michael Hall has a little bit of his

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awkwardness still in him from his

adolescence and he also has a good sense

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of humor that is already developed.

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So, he is funny.

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I can see why he goes on to

be on Saturday Night Live.

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He gets a very short run, but I can

see why they wanted to bring him on.

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I believe he's still the youngest

person to have ever been on.

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Saturday Night Live as a

cast member and I can see why

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Hughes kept coming back to him.

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He has good facial reactions,

he has good sarcasm.

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He seems cool, but even though he's in

this moment, he's supposed to be nerdy.

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So there's a sense of warming

up to him that even though he is

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a nerd, he's getting picked on

and ostracized and made fun of.

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He still seems very relatable and

likable and he's definitely the

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cooler of the two of them in this.

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And the humor hinges more

heavily on him than it does

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his CoStar, Ian Mitchell Smith.

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So, without Anthony Michael Hall here,

none of this is gonna work as well.

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He's really, really important.

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'cause if you wanna get down into what's

your most important casting, I think.

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You know, Kelly Lerock is like the

image of what we all remember from

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this movie, but Anthony Michael Hall

responding to, and getting into all this

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stuff, he does big eyes really well.

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He has these, you know, big reactions

whether it's him going out and

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getting drunk and talking I guess this

still called Jive talk or whatever.

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I mean,

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Chad: cringeworthy.

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That

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Russell Guest: well that's the part

that I don't think would hold up

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as well today, but I still have to

admit he may not hold up as well

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today, but I still think it's funny.

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So, I mean, you know, he is, he,

he fully commits to it and he, he

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is the one that I think is kind of

the axle of this wheel that this

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all make basically has to work on.

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Chad: Oh man.

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Katie: Really good points.

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I will say he, so he plays Gary and then

I always thought Wyatt, the name of the

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actor who plays Wyatt was Ian as well.

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But it, it just looks like it because

it's a capital I next to a lowercase l

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Chad: Ellen.

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Katie: island.

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Chad: Yep.

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Katie: name is

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Russell Guest: Alan, it's my mistake Then.

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Katie: I, I only learned that now that

I'm like digging into weird science,

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it's Elan Mitchell Smith plays Wyatt.

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And to your point about Anthony Michael

Hall, now, and I don't mean this to

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degrade Elan at all, but there's a

reason Anthony Michael Hall was a

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star and Elan, wasn't Their acting

abilities were vastly different.

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I thought we saw it in, in several

points throughout this movie that

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Gary, it was just like, yeah.

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On fire.

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And, and Wyatt was just kind of

there to play off a little bit.

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And I don't know, whyt just kept

screaming, Lisa, oh my God, I

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didn't love his acting as much,

in:

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for making word science, which is.

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I don't, I don't know how everybody,

how much everybody else made.

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I just thought that

was really interesting.

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He was born in New York and

he was more of a dancer.

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So he was in ballet, enrolled in

dance classes, eventually got a

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scholarship to the American Ballet.

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And while he was at the ballet, he

was discovered by a casting agent

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for the director Sidney Lumette.

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Is it

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Lumette?

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Or Lume?

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Russell Guest: I, I've,

I've heard louette.

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I feel like

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Katie: I thought

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Russell Guest: we've covered him.

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Katie: anyway, yeah.

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Anyway, and

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Chad: Swayze connection, though.

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The whole ballet background.

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Katie: point.

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So he was signed to play to

Timothy Hutton's character as a

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young boy in the film, Daniel.

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And then he, that led to a major role in

the wildlife, both in the early eighties

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and then this, and then he did not

continue acting very much after that.

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And he's a professor.

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He's in higher education now,

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mm-hmm.

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Now two guys on the show with me, I

mean, I could hardly contain myself

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at the beauty of Kelly Lerock.

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I mean, wasn't she almost

like there were just no words.

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She's like, perfect.

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Was it just me?

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I don't know.

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I thought Kelly Lerock

looked perfect in every way.

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Chad: She's very pretty, but I

think what does it is the accent,

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just her, her manner of speech is,

there's something about it that's

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just sexy, but still calming.

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She's, she's this chaotic force

amongst the boys' lives, but she's

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very in control of it the entire time.

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That's really hard to do.

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Katie: she's motherly in, in a weird way.

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She's motherly to them.

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Like it's a strange, that's how it's

other, she's 23 years old, or her

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character Lisa, and these boys are 15.

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But somehow.

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It's not that creepy

or is it, I don't know.

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Like it never could happen.

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The reverse, like the

reverse could never happen.

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But in some weird way it kind of worked

somehow because she was sort of acting as

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their like mother fury, godmother type.

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I don't know.

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What do you guys think?

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Is it creepy?

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Chad: I, I had this problem

when we revisited big 'cause

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Katie: Hmm.

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Chad: Tom Hanks is a child and

you wind up sleeping with a child

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and the, that revelation doesn't

really land on the female character.

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And got two realizations, magic's

real, and I've just slept with a child.

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I'm like, okay, this, this movie

doesn't work for me as much.

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This one, I think it works out

better because she's the heart of it.

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It's an AI program.

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She's like a manifestation

of Alexa now, or

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Katie: Hmm.

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Chad: so you can.

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Get past the shower scene because

the shower scene is very early on.

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It's like, eh, this, this probably

isn't great, but she's not real.

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I mean, she's real to the

touch and everything else,

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but she's a computer program.

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She's not a adult woman.

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So I, I think that makes things funnier

when she's going on and got the little

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tiny underwear and she says, do you

think a 15-year-old boy would like these?

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And she's, do you have a matching bra?

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And it's this elderly woman at the

checkout that's just scowling at her.

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That's

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fantastic.

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Russell Guest: Yeah.

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Katie: But they do sleep with her.

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I mean, it's not shown on screen, but

they do both sleep with her, correct?

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Chad: Wyatt, she has that illusion

of you you tapped out after 10

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seconds of my gymnastics routine.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Chad: I guess there's

plausible deniability, but.

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Katie: 'cause at that scene, she says

something about they're arguing about Chet

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and him standing up to Che and she's like,

you're letting this affect your sex life,

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Chad: yeah.

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Katie: And then later when they're

talking to the perfume girl, they, they,

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call her their lover,

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Russell Guest: Sex pot.

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Actually,

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Katie: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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:

And then they do kiss her,

you know, like passionately

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Russell Guest: It's funny

because if you inspect any of it,

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it's, it's rife with problems.

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You, you, you, but it's

what you call absurdist.

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I think it's one of these

things where none of.

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Is serious and the more serious that

the others take it, whether it be Chet,

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the grandparents or the people around

them, the more surreal it becomes.

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And when you go back and even cover an

art, like a March Brothers movie, grouch

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show is saying preposterous things that

make absolutely no sense whatsoever,

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but they're taken with great deal

of seriousness by those around them.

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And that is funny then, and it is funny

in the eighties and it's still funny now.

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So I think, I think that it is established

very early when the boys make Lisa,

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this is going to be off the wall.

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Crazy.

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They've hacked into a high security

thing like a La war games, whereas

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that's the whole plot for war games.

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But here it's just like a

little footnote of we see them,

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you know, we need more power.

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They go to a station and stuff like that.

764

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It's Frankenstein, it's war games, and

it all happens in like a 32nd clip.

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There is music and there's cues

that go into this that say.

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We're not taking this seriously

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Katie: Right,

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Russell Guest: and we are

all in on it as an audience.

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So, no, I think there's something that

you said if you make a drama movie

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where it's like I'm in love with a

15-year-old boy or something like that.

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Now we're having a different time.

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But from the get go lingo bingo said,

you shouldn't take this seriously.

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You know, I mean the music,

everything is, is done to say that

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we're here for humor and given

that it is all ridiculous, it is.

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It is poking fun at the teenage

male fantasy of what if you did

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get everything you wanted and

we're remarkably simple creatures?

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And then that's funny.

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That's a funny thing.

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And it's own right.

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Eight.

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Chad: I did appreciate

the contrast though.

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That was when they're designing Lisa and

they talk about chess size and they go

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on the smaller side, but then you get

Robert Downey Junior's and the first

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thing they're, they say is large breasts.

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Large breasts, blow it up.

786

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And that hacking scene we did, we

covered hackers a couple years ago.

787

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It made hackers look

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futuristic for hacking.

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This

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Russell Guest: Yeah,

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Chad: they're, they're playing

some little spiral tunnel game.

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There's no internet, like

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none of this is possible.

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Russell Guest: it

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Katie: thought the graphics were

pretty good for:

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I really enjoyed it, including like

the, the like lightning magic effect.

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That's so eighties.

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Yeah.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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Now, I as a person who does not have

giant breasts really appreciated

802

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even as a kid the contrast.

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:

Wyatt Gary choose they say something

about, now here's also where the,

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the edit for TV comes into play.

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They say something about

anything more than a

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handful is risking

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a,

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Russell Guest: thumb.

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Katie: tongue.

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Chad: Mm-hmm.

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Russell Guest: other thumb.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Katie: Either way.

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And, and I was like.

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A great, I appreciate that.

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But the, the TV version says

they don't say a sprained tongue

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'cause that's inappropriate.

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They say a waste, like anything

more than a handful is a

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waste or something like that.

821

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Chad: Okay.

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Yeah.

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Katie: I was like, Hey, I like that.

824

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And then whoever, if it was

John or somebody else, must also

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:

feel the same way about breasts.

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Because when Robert Downey Jr.

827

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And the guy who plays Max, who's super

hot they're like all bigger boobs.

828

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Bigger boobs.

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And then they say the, I don't know

if it was white or Gary says something

830

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about, oh, you like him on, on the knees.

831

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Like meaning oh, just give

her a few years and they'll be

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:

down on her knees if you choose

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somebody that

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Russell Guest: Yeah.

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Katie: a gigantic.

836

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So I was like, ah, atta boy.

837

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Russell Guest: There are people who pull

off every beauty at every figure height.

838

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And I mean, so it's it's sexiness

is not just some specific

839

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dimensions that go into a computer.

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:

So, but

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:

Katie: Yeah, but the point for

this is like you said, this is a

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15-year-old boy's fantasy.

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:

Russell Guest: yeah,

844

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Katie: What would your woman look Like,

845

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You know what I

846

:

mean?

847

:

Russell Guest: but back to what Chad

said, a lot of it's her attitude.

848

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She's remarkably confident patient.

849

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She's not like demanding like she's

pushing them to make them better.

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There's a mentorship quality.

851

:

She, Kelly Lebr said, I'm

like Mary Poppins with boobs.

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:

Katie: Yes.

853

:

yes.

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:

Russell Guest: think that

something we've all been touching

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on of like why this movie works.

856

:

She's helping them grow.

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:

Ultimately they end up getting the

girlfriends that they wanted, they

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had no possibility of achieving

and they didn't have it within

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themselves to obtain that level.

860

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And she's not only helped give them

the handicap, the head start, maybe

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even run half the race for them, but.

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:

She's also helped them grow to

where that they can now do this.

863

:

Chad: that's,

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:

Katie: The self-confidence.

865

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Yep.

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:

Chad: That's definitely the

thing that rings true, at

867

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least for teenage boy status.

868

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I certainly wasn't in

the Robert Downey Jr.

869

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And, and Max Club.

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So I was that awkward guy that

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Russell Guest: Oh yeah.

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Chad: somebody to inspire confidence.

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And part of the fantasy is, okay,

this, this beautiful, sweet girl is

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with a jerk, and I knew how to talk to

her, maybe I could be her boyfriend.

875

:

That's, that's more of the fantasy

that this approaches it from, and

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it's relatable for somebody like

me of seeing these, these jerks.

877

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But they're really good looking and

they're confident they come to the

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:

realization at the end, oh, Wyatt and

Gary are willing to stick up for us.

879

:

They're willing to take on these wild

eighties plot points of biker threats,

880

:

Katie: Oh, we will get, we'll get there.

881

:

Oh my God.

882

:

Yeah.

883

:

She also teaches them that you

want people to like you for who you

884

:

are, not what you can give them.

885

:

we see those things throughout

the movie that she kind of tries

886

:

to impart on them, pay off later.

887

:

But just to finish the conversation

about Kelly Lerock, I thought

888

:

she was really good in this.

889

:

Like she's not known, like

she didn't do a whole lot.

890

:

but Kelly Lerock.

891

:

It's probably most known for this in,

in her trademark, in addition to her

892

:

pouty lips and big hair is her accent.

893

:

she was born in New York, but raised

in London, which gives her this

894

:

kind of combination of a London,

but also trans-Atlantic accent that

895

:

nobody has that accent that she has.

896

:

Chad: Yeah.

897

:

Katie: It's very specific to her.

898

:

Now she is the daughter of a French

Canadian father and an Irish mother began

899

:

as a model, lots of magazine covers.

900

:

And she became one of Eileen

Ford's most sought after models.

901

:

She did a few things before this, not big

things, but then she appeared in hard to

902

:

kill with her then husband Steven Segal.

903

:

So, I have no idea why I, this is still

very perplexing to me that she ever

904

:

married Steven Segal and proceeded

to have three children with him.

905

:

Chad: I am so glad you went there.

906

:

I didn't know if you were saying,

I have no idea why she was in hard

907

:

to kill or married Steven Segal.

908

:

I'm

909

:

Katie: Seriously.

910

:

Seriously what Kelly?

911

:

Kelly look at you and

then look at Steven Senal.

912

:

Now here is a little crossover

with our Willy Wonka episode.

913

:

When she lost her father, her acting

mentor, Jean Wilder became her

914

:

surrogate father, and they remained

se friends until his death in:

915

:

Did you

916

:

guys know that?

917

:

Chad: didn't.

918

:

Russell Guest: And they're

in a movie as well, right?

919

:

Woman in red.

920

:

Katie: Yes.

921

:

Yeah.

922

:

Oh, I didn't realize.

923

:

I've not seen that.

924

:

But yeah, that was one of her

925

:

earlier roles.

926

:

Okay, that makes sense then.

927

:

Russell Guest: So she had just done that

before this, with those two connect there.

928

:

So

929

:

Chad: Okay.

930

:

Katie: Good

931

:

Russell Guest: great.

932

:

Chad: bit

933

:

Russell Guest: Jean's, great.

934

:

Chad: She

935

:

Katie: He really is.

936

:

Chad: comedy really well, so.

937

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

938

:

Russell Guest: So Kelly

Lerock also came in late.

939

:

Kelly Emberg had the original cast.

940

:

By the way, like she's like

on the Sports Illustrated

941

:

swimsuit issue in the eighties.

942

:

She's a model.

943

:

She's beautiful in her own right.

944

:

And actually if you showed me like

photos of both of them, I would say

945

:

there's no need to recast anybody.

946

:

To Chad's point, it wasn't working.

947

:

They had, they threw out

work that they had done.

948

:

Much like when you cover

back to the future.

949

:

Michael J.

950

:

Fox didn't have the original casting

and they threw away weeks of work.

951

:

They threw away 'cause it wasn't working.

952

:

And they went back and they got Michael J.

953

:

Fox and it worked.

954

:

Similar deal here, maybe a little

bit less dramatic than having

955

:

that much budget thrown in the

garbage, but still a big deal.

956

:

And then they went back.

957

:

They had considered her, but she

didn't necess, she wasn't really

958

:

sure she wanted, so she was

like with the sting at the time.

959

:

I think she was mentioning like just

having a good time on the French Riviera.

960

:

Katie: yeah.

961

:

Yeah.

962

:

Russell Guest: So

963

:

um.

964

:

Chad: horses.

965

:

Yep.

966

:

Russell Guest: So they come

back and get her, and we talked

967

:

about Anthony Michael Hall.

968

:

This movie doesn't work.

969

:

This movie also clearly wouldn't

have worked with the wrong

970

:

person in the wrong chemistry.

971

:

So again, that calm, cool attitude

that I think being British

972

:

helps certain in the role.

973

:

Chad: Yes.

974

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

975

:

Russell Guest: Emberg.

976

:

Kelly Berg's super pretty,

but she's also not British.

977

:

I mean, there's just the making sure

that you get all these things cast

978

:

perfectly is a big part of why we're still

talking about this 40 years from now.

979

:

And it's not just covered

in the sands at times.

980

:

So Hughes also has a good point.

981

:

Like he knew something wasn't working

and Kelly was the missing ingredient

982

:

to, to come back and do this.

983

:

Katie: The casting was really good.

984

:

Russell Guest: Yeah,

985

:

Katie: All around, since we're

on the topic of the casting for

986

:

Lisa, to me, Moore and Robin Wright

also auditioned for the part.

987

:

Chad: I saw that, and I cannot imagine

Robin Wright maybe to me more, but Robin

988

:

Wright you've got Princess Bride like

somewhat close in, in range to this.

989

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

990

:

Chad: That just doesn't,

it doesn't match in

991

:

my brain.

992

:

Russell Guest: there's probably

other people who could have done it.

993

:

Katie: but Kelly Lerock her

look, her accent, , her just

994

:

Aura Kelly Lerock was perfect.

995

:

Lisa?

996

:

I think so.

997

:

I really, very glad.

998

:

That they risked the three weeks that

they filmed with the other Kelly.

999

:

But yes, you guys Bill Paxton,

:

00:39:51,447 --> 00:39:51,842

Chad: Oh man.

:

00:39:53,622 --> 00:39:55,602

Katie: Chet, what a character.

:

00:39:55,602 --> 00:40:01,422

He, he made a side character,

one of the most memorable

:

00:40:01,512 --> 00:40:03,462

characters in movie history.

:

00:40:03,492 --> 00:40:05,892

It's just amazing.

:

00:40:07,509 --> 00:40:08,679

Russell Guest: Again, exaggeration.

:

00:40:09,549 --> 00:40:13,719

So important you have a

bad bully military brother.

:

00:40:14,499 --> 00:40:15,729

You could write that on paper,

:

00:40:16,077 --> 00:40:16,497

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:40:16,569 --> 00:40:21,339

Russell Guest: but Paxton dialing it

up to 11 is what makes this all work.

:

00:40:21,579 --> 00:40:23,679

He's so funny because.

:

00:40:24,444 --> 00:40:25,284

He's awful.

:

00:40:25,434 --> 00:40:26,214

Like you hate him.

:

00:40:26,514 --> 00:40:28,344

Like you, you have to hate him.

:

00:40:28,614 --> 00:40:32,814

But he's full of exaggeration

and absurdity in his own right.

:

00:40:32,964 --> 00:40:34,944

He's full of nothing but problems.

:

00:40:35,364 --> 00:40:36,234

So, I mean,

:

00:40:36,357 --> 00:40:36,747

Chad: Yeah.

:

00:40:37,494 --> 00:40:38,844

Russell Guest: but so,

:

00:40:39,087 --> 00:40:40,227

Katie: sakes, cover yourself.

:

00:40:40,494 --> 00:40:42,564

Russell Guest: oh, that

was, that was so funny.

:

00:40:43,074 --> 00:40:46,944

You know, with the gun in people's

faces, like in the morning and you

:

00:40:46,944 --> 00:40:51,594

know, hitting people and like taking

his allowance and, you know, I'm

:

00:40:51,594 --> 00:40:52,794

gonna tell mom and dad everything.

:

00:40:52,974 --> 00:40:55,254

I'm even thinking of my,

make some stuff up too.

:

00:40:55,769 --> 00:40:59,369

He's great and it's fun is when you

hear the actors talk about Bill.

:

00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:01,589

He wasn't that guy at all.

:

00:41:02,009 --> 00:41:02,969

Makes it even better.

:

00:41:03,179 --> 00:41:06,539

Bill was a pretty super cool dude and all

the young actors really appreciated him.

:

00:41:06,539 --> 00:41:10,769

He was not overbearing and telling

them what to do, but he was valuable

:

00:41:10,769 --> 00:41:12,389

to them as a mentor on the set.

:

00:41:13,289 --> 00:41:15,899

Bill was a fun guy to be

around and people liked.

:

00:41:16,499 --> 00:41:21,509

So, and it's fun when you can see

somebody who's so not that turn into

:

00:41:21,899 --> 00:41:27,779

somebody who's, you know, he must have

met somebody in his lifetime who, who

:

00:41:27,779 --> 00:41:33,479

then he is able to channel into this thing

this, this moment of, I really don't like

:

00:41:33,479 --> 00:41:37,289

you and anything about you and how you

treat people and walk through the world.

:

00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:41,369

And then through the beauty of gift

of comedy and acting, he's able to

:

00:41:41,369 --> 00:41:45,959

transform that into this thing that

can bring joy to so many people.

:

00:41:47,017 --> 00:41:48,627

Katie: Like with the cigar and everything.

:

00:41:48,627 --> 00:41:50,507

That was very specific, you know.

:

00:41:51,002 --> 00:41:54,272

Chad: John Hughes has had some

sibling trauma or something.

:

00:41:54,272 --> 00:41:58,442

I don't know if he has an older brother,

but like Buzz and home alone, I feel like

:

00:41:58,527 --> 00:41:58,817

Katie: Good

:

00:41:58,979 --> 00:41:59,369

Russell Guest: Yeah.

:

00:42:00,062 --> 00:42:04,472

Chad: And I, I, I just have a

younger sister, so hopefully

:

00:42:04,472 --> 00:42:06,332

I wasn't the che in her life.

:

00:42:06,332 --> 00:42:09,682

But yeah, he's a ridiculous caricature.

:

00:42:09,682 --> 00:42:14,722

But you see these in eighties movies,

we have these stereotype bully older

:

00:42:14,722 --> 00:42:20,752

siblings, and Bill Paxton is just,

he's despicable in the best kinda way.

:

00:42:20,872 --> 00:42:22,522

I, I loved it.

:

00:42:22,522 --> 00:42:25,942

And the senior referencing

where Whyt shows up and.

:

00:42:26,347 --> 00:42:29,727

Kelly's underwear and, and the

like halter top or whatever

:

00:42:29,727 --> 00:42:31,077

it was, the cutoff t-shirt.

:

00:42:31,407 --> 00:42:33,192

And are you wearing women's underwear?

:

00:42:33,612 --> 00:42:33,832

Mm,

:

00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:34,960

Katie: Underpants,

:

00:42:35,115 --> 00:42:35,405

Chad: yeah.

:

00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,090

Katie: just the way he speaks.

:

00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:42,070

I think the vast majority of my laugh

out loud moments were Chet lines.

:

00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:45,990

And part of it is like nostalgia

for I literally wrote in my

:

00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:48,000

notes a couple of his insults.

:

00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:51,060

He says, but wa, he calls him butt wad.

:

00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:55,950

He calls him Dick Weed and

he calls him monkey dick.

:

00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,130

I just, I don't know why,

because we don't say those like

:

00:42:59,130 --> 00:43:00,360

we have different insults now.

:

00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,620

And it just, it brought back memories

of the eighties and just his laugh.

:

00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,620

the way he laughs everything about it.

:

00:43:08,430 --> 00:43:11,220

things too that John very John Hughey.

:

00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:14,370

Can you guys think of another

movie that John Hughes wrote where

:

00:43:14,370 --> 00:43:15,600

there's a character named Chet

:

00:43:18,372 --> 00:43:18,452

Russell Guest: Hmm.

:

00:43:18,567 --> 00:43:19,617

Cross reference.

:

00:43:21,545 --> 00:43:22,395

Chad: It's not coming to me.

:

00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:24,180

Katie: the

:

00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:25,230

Great Outdoors,

:

00:43:25,317 --> 00:43:25,677

Russell Guest: Okay.

:

00:43:26,085 --> 00:43:26,565

Chad: Okay.

:

00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:27,267

Russell Guest: Yeah,

:

00:43:27,450 --> 00:43:27,960

Katie: Chet.

:

00:43:28,257 --> 00:43:28,737

Russell Guest: I have seen it.

:

00:43:28,737 --> 00:43:28,857

Yeah.

:

00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:30,060

Katie: Yep.

:

00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:35,830

And this is the first of two movies where

bill Paxton has a brother named Wyatt.

:

00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:37,325

What was the other one?

:

00:43:39,767 --> 00:43:40,307

Russell Guest: Tombstone,

:

00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,990

Katie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:42,620

W Earp.

:

00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,030

Chad: Makes sense.

:

00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:44,390

Yeah.

:

00:43:45,082 --> 00:43:45,202

Russell Guest: I.

:

00:43:46,310 --> 00:43:50,000

Katie: I always liked, as a little

kid, I always thought that the girls.

:

00:43:50,375 --> 00:43:54,245

Deb and Hilly so cool and so pretty.

:

00:43:54,395 --> 00:43:57,185

They're very eighties, like their hair

and their makeup and their outfits.

:

00:43:57,215 --> 00:43:58,205

I just loved them.

:

00:43:58,575 --> 00:44:04,005

Neither of them are like super well known,

but Deb is played by Suzanne Snyder.

:

00:44:04,585 --> 00:44:06,805

The other things that she

was in, she played another

:

00:44:06,805 --> 00:44:08,755

Debbie in Killer Clowns from Outspace.

:

00:44:08,907 --> 00:44:10,027

Russell Guest: That's Chad's Jam.

:

00:44:10,087 --> 00:44:10,987

That's his movie.

:

00:44:11,755 --> 00:44:12,655

Katie: I've never seen it.

:

00:44:12,775 --> 00:44:13,735

Did you recognize her?

:

00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:14,590

Chad: it.

:

00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,000

No, no.

:

00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,860

But that is a movie that somehow gets

so much mileage out of one clown joke.

:

00:44:20,860 --> 00:44:22,900

Like you would think it

would get really old.

:

00:44:23,230 --> 00:44:25,000

I'm gonna get this on the show one day.

:

00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:26,200

Russell's gonna suffer, but

:

00:44:26,905 --> 00:44:28,975

Katie: And it's clowns with a K, right?

:

00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:30,880

Chad: it, yes, yes it is.

:

00:44:31,285 --> 00:44:31,645

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:32,560

Chad: One more K.

:

00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,430

And it's problematic,

:

00:44:33,565 --> 00:44:33,775

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:44:33,775 --> 00:44:34,045

Yep.

:

00:44:34,075 --> 00:44:34,315

Yep.

:

00:44:34,315 --> 00:44:35,065

Don't do that.

:

00:44:36,055 --> 00:44:37,255

She was in fools, rushed in.

:

00:44:37,255 --> 00:44:41,935

I can't picture who she was in that return

of the living Dead too and nothing else.

:

00:44:41,935 --> 00:44:42,745

I really like.

:

00:44:42,865 --> 00:44:43,795

That's, that's about it.

:

00:44:43,795 --> 00:44:45,655

And Hilly is played by.

:

00:44:46,675 --> 00:44:53,815

Judy Aronson, and she was in three

episodes of Beverly Hills N oh two one oh.

:

00:44:54,575 --> 00:44:59,615

Friday the 13th, the final chapter, and

American Ninja, saw a picture of her.

:

00:44:59,615 --> 00:45:01,595

She looks really good now.

:

00:45:01,655 --> 00:45:03,305

Like she aged very well.

:

00:45:03,310 --> 00:45:04,925

The, the woman who played hilly.

:

00:45:05,630 --> 00:45:08,795

Chad: I've seen all of these horror

movie references, but I can't place them.

:

00:45:08,795 --> 00:45:09,485

Katie: Yeah,

:

00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:13,280

Chad: you know, somebody that's

disposable body number three or

:

00:45:13,565 --> 00:45:14,405

Katie: yeah, yeah.

:

00:45:14,405 --> 00:45:15,695

That's, yep.

:

00:45:16,875 --> 00:45:18,765

This is before Robert Downey Jr.

:

00:45:18,765 --> 00:45:20,715

Was Robert Downey Jr.

:

00:45:20,715 --> 00:45:24,735

But he plays Ian, one of

the cool, popular guys.

:

00:45:25,345 --> 00:45:26,965

I thought he did a great job in this.

:

00:45:26,965 --> 00:45:30,325

What did you guys think of

Robert in one of his early roles?

:

00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:35,110

Chad: he did, and he just looks the

part, I don't know how old he was here,

:

00:45:35,110 --> 00:45:37,300

but he always looks slightly older than

:

00:45:37,375 --> 00:45:37,945

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:45:38,890 --> 00:45:39,910

Chad: this time period.

:

00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:41,310

He still has that charm.

:

00:45:41,310 --> 00:45:42,960

I wish I had half of

:

00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:44,490

Katie: He is charming, isn't he?

:

00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:48,900

Chad: Like even when he's being a

terrible human being, he's got that slick

:

00:45:48,930 --> 00:45:55,740

manner of speaking and I, I was stunned

that he had that energy as a teenager.

:

00:45:56,220 --> 00:45:56,880

But yeah,

:

00:45:56,910 --> 00:45:58,620

Katie: I suspect he was in his twenties.

:

00:45:58,620 --> 00:46:01,460

I he and the guy who

played Max Robert Wrestler,

:

00:46:01,460 --> 00:46:03,440

They both looked o considerably

:

00:46:03,527 --> 00:46:04,322

Russell Guest: They are older

:

00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:08,490

Katie: Yeah, I didn't look, but

I thought they were a great pair.

:

00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:10,590

Their duo was really fun.

:

00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:14,310

Like it's that stereotypical

cool, good looking guy.

:

00:46:14,310 --> 00:46:15,660

They're too cool for school.

:

00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:18,270

They have the pretty

girls, they're dickheads.

:

00:46:19,470 --> 00:46:20,430

really good looking.

:

00:46:20,430 --> 00:46:23,700

I always thought growing up they

were both incredibly good looking.

:

00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:27,030

was a big fan of Max.

:

00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:28,260

Like I still watching this.

:

00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:30,360

I'm like, that, that man is

:

00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:30,930

attractive.

:

00:46:31,380 --> 00:46:31,710

Right.

:

00:46:32,442 --> 00:46:32,772

Russell Guest: that

:

00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,600

Chad: fair.

:

00:46:33,612 --> 00:46:35,622

Russell Guest: Robert wrestler's

the one that I thought made sense.

:

00:46:35,682 --> 00:46:37,467

This I might not be a popular.

:

00:46:38,232 --> 00:46:41,892

Choice here, but if I, on our show we

have a recast category if you were going

:

00:46:41,892 --> 00:46:45,222

to recast somebody else and put somebody

else in the place, Robert Downey Jr.

:

00:46:45,222 --> 00:46:47,622

Might be one of the people

I, I considered because

:

00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:48,500

Katie: Oh,

:

00:46:48,582 --> 00:46:50,352

Russell Guest: think, I

think Robert Downey Jr.

:

00:46:50,352 --> 00:46:53,562

At his heart and when you talk to him

and stuff like that, is probably more

:

00:46:53,562 --> 00:46:55,842

akin to play the goofy side of this.

:

00:46:56,212 --> 00:46:59,902

He's too old, he's five years older

than Anthony, Michael Hall, I believe

:

00:47:00,082 --> 00:47:04,912

So, to be in those positions, but I

think where you want him in this movie

:

00:47:04,912 --> 00:47:07,402

is closer to, in the main two boys.

:

00:47:07,502 --> 00:47:10,262

I didn't buy him as this jerk as much.

:

00:47:10,272 --> 00:47:13,302

I'd like somebody to be a little more

physically imposing and, you know,

:

00:47:13,485 --> 00:47:14,145

Katie: Hmm.

:

00:47:14,307 --> 00:47:16,182

Russell Guest: I, I mean, I, I, I wanted,

:

00:47:16,395 --> 00:47:16,995

Chad: were different.

:

00:47:16,995 --> 00:47:17,205

That's

:

00:47:17,205 --> 00:47:18,320

how he was traumatized.

:

00:47:19,212 --> 00:47:19,572

Russell Guest: yeah.

:

00:47:19,905 --> 00:47:23,505

Katie: I thought Robert, Robert

Wrestler as Max looked like he was 30.

:

00:47:23,535 --> 00:47:24,645

Like he looked like a straight up

:

00:47:24,645 --> 00:47:25,665

adult man.

:

00:47:25,725 --> 00:47:25,965

You know?

:

00:47:26,682 --> 00:47:30,942

Russell Guest: He's born in 65 and

Anthony Michael Hall was born in 68 and

:

00:47:31,122 --> 00:47:31,472

Katie: Okay.

:

00:47:31,575 --> 00:47:33,225

Russell Guest: Lin mentioned Smith's 69.

:

00:47:33,225 --> 00:47:35,415

So there's not a huge, huge

difference between them.

:

00:47:35,415 --> 00:47:38,445

They're just, there are some

physical differences between these

:

00:47:38,445 --> 00:47:40,365

human beings as there can be,

:

00:47:41,055 --> 00:47:41,445

but

:

00:47:42,105 --> 00:47:43,755

I just thought, I

thought Robert Downey Jr.

:

00:47:43,755 --> 00:47:48,635

Seemed like the cool, new wave

kid who didn't care as much.

:

00:47:48,695 --> 00:47:50,515

And I think maybe having somebody

:

00:47:51,415 --> 00:47:54,955

a little more jock I'm gonna throw

the trash can and laugh at it with

:

00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:57,355

my football buddies might've been

where my head was going with it.

:

00:47:57,512 --> 00:47:58,392

Chad: a Letterman jacket.

:

00:47:59,350 --> 00:47:59,785

Russell Guest: I thought.

:

00:47:59,785 --> 00:48:00,430

So that's just where.

:

00:48:00,552 --> 00:48:01,752

Katie: on the nose, man.

:

00:48:01,752 --> 00:48:02,442

I don't know.

:

00:48:02,472 --> 00:48:05,052

These two, I, you know, that's fair.

:

00:48:05,052 --> 00:48:08,772

Russell, I think I just grew up,

I literally started watching this

:

00:48:08,772 --> 00:48:13,782

movie when I was very young and I

grew up with those two, so I can't

:

00:48:13,782 --> 00:48:16,712

see anything else, but that's fair.

:

00:48:17,627 --> 00:48:20,447

Chad: Our bullies were bigger, or at

least in our minds, like they were.

:

00:48:20,717 --> 00:48:21,227

They were much taller.

:

00:48:23,192 --> 00:48:27,812

Katie: Now Robert Wrestler,

you guys familiar with him?

:

00:48:27,812 --> 00:48:29,552

Know who he is from anything?

:

00:48:29,552 --> 00:48:30,332

Yeah, same.

:

00:48:31,052 --> 00:48:32,192

He is super dreamy.

:

00:48:32,302 --> 00:48:33,232

I did look him up.

:

00:48:33,232 --> 00:48:38,572

He was like a semi-professional surfer

and skateboarder when he was young.

:

00:48:38,692 --> 00:48:39,327

Chad: checks out.

:

00:48:39,682 --> 00:48:40,222

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:48:40,222 --> 00:48:42,412

So he, they moved to LA and

:

00:48:42,412 --> 00:48:42,532

he,

:

00:48:42,532 --> 00:48:43,462

began martial

:

00:48:43,462 --> 00:48:44,032

arts

:

00:48:44,225 --> 00:48:44,675

Russell Guest: Isn't he,

:

00:48:44,692 --> 00:48:44,902

Katie: and

:

00:48:45,022 --> 00:48:47,692

Russell Guest: isn't he in one of

your favorite franchises though, Chad?

:

00:48:48,352 --> 00:48:51,022

He's, he is in, he's a

nightmare of El Street, right?

:

00:48:51,442 --> 00:48:52,312

The the two.

:

00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:53,830

Katie: oh, was he,

:

00:48:53,945 --> 00:48:54,365

Chad: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:54,652 --> 00:48:56,482

Russell Guest: Which I

know I, I saw Chad wins.

:

00:48:57,112 --> 00:48:58,912

He doesn't like Nightmare

On On Street too.

:

00:48:58,912 --> 00:49:00,232

I was being facetious.

:

00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,730

Chad: I, I, I do not, yeah,

it it breaks all the rules.

:

00:49:04,570 --> 00:49:04,750

Katie: it?

:

00:49:04,780 --> 00:49:05,320

Okay.

:

00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,910

Well, he did get the acting bug.

:

00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:10,730

I don't, I, he never became

like super famous, but.

:

00:49:12,125 --> 00:49:18,305

In addition to The Nightmare on Elm

Street credits, one of my recent favorite

:

00:49:18,305 --> 00:49:23,225

shows is Ray Donovan, and he was in three

episodes of that as a character named Gus.

:

00:49:23,225 --> 00:49:26,195

And now I'm gonna have to go back

and find out who the heck Gus was.

:

00:49:28,155 --> 00:49:32,985

He also plays Tim Outside's TV series.

:

00:49:34,155 --> 00:49:35,850

Chad: There's, I had no idea that was a

:

00:49:36,135 --> 00:49:36,795

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:49:38,325 --> 00:49:41,265

this weird science was

actually his second, his only,

:

00:49:41,265 --> 00:49:42,585

his second acting credit.

:

00:49:43,035 --> 00:49:48,285

The very first one was he was in

two episodes of The Facts of Life.

:

00:49:48,525 --> 00:49:50,355

Now I have to find out

who he was in that too.

:

00:49:51,195 --> 00:49:52,725

So that's Robert Wrestler, you guys,

:

00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:54,210

Chad: Alright.

:

00:49:54,210 --> 00:49:55,530

Still, is he still dreamy?

:

00:49:55,530 --> 00:49:55,770

Is he's.

:

00:49:56,685 --> 00:49:58,365

Katie: I didn't, I didn't look him up.

:

00:49:58,365 --> 00:50:02,745

But his IMDV photo, however recent

that is, he looks pretty good to me.

:

00:50:02,805 --> 00:50:04,365

So I don't know how recent that is.

:

00:50:05,025 --> 00:50:06,225

Chad: I mean, Robert Downey Jr.

:

00:50:06,225 --> 00:50:07,845

Is still stunningly handsome.

:

00:50:08,115 --> 00:50:08,685

Katie: point.

:

00:50:09,615 --> 00:50:10,245

good point.

:

00:50:11,145 --> 00:50:16,725

I absolutely adored the scene when

they go to talk to Gary's parents

:

00:50:17,085 --> 00:50:18,495

Chad: oh, yes, Lisa.

:

00:50:18,585 --> 00:50:18,795

Yeah.

:

00:50:19,185 --> 00:50:23,895

Katie: Gary's dad, Hal is played

by Britt Leach and he, do you guys

:

00:50:23,895 --> 00:50:25,305

know what other John Hughes movie?

:

00:50:25,305 --> 00:50:25,545

He was

:

00:50:25,545 --> 00:50:25,875

in

:

00:50:27,762 --> 00:50:28,152

Russell Guest: No,

:

00:50:28,275 --> 00:50:29,415

Chad: I'm failing at all these.

:

00:50:31,395 --> 00:50:31,695

Katie: the Great

:

00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:32,895

Outdoors also

:

00:50:33,762 --> 00:50:35,952

Russell Guest: I need to brush up on

my cast list for the great outdoors.

:

00:50:36,432 --> 00:50:38,982

You know, the Great Outdoors is

not my favorite John Hughes movie.

:

00:50:38,982 --> 00:50:42,372

I liked it when I was a kid, but I don't

feel like it ages as well as you grow up.

:

00:50:42,372 --> 00:50:44,742

Like I feel like it's, it's

really solid when you're young.

:

00:50:45,147 --> 00:50:46,557

It just doesn't have next level.

:

00:50:47,157 --> 00:50:47,667

Oh, no.

:

00:50:47,672 --> 00:50:47,912

Yeah.

:

00:50:48,105 --> 00:50:48,675

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:50:48,775 --> 00:50:51,415

But yeah, we already covered the

Great Outdoors on Retro Made.

:

00:50:51,415 --> 00:50:53,305

So yeah, we, we talked about

some of these characters.

:

00:50:53,935 --> 00:50:58,645

I did also see that this Brit Leach was in

three episodes of three's company playing

:

00:50:58,675 --> 00:51:01,255

three different people each episode.

:

00:51:01,255 --> 00:51:01,680

He was a different person.

:

00:51:01,975 --> 00:51:03,085

You know how they used to do that?

:

00:51:03,325 --> 00:51:03,625

Chad: Oh, yeah.

:

00:51:03,865 --> 00:51:04,825

Katie: Yeah, yeah.

:

00:51:05,695 --> 00:51:07,285

what do you guys think about that scene?

:

00:51:07,975 --> 00:51:09,445

Chad: I, that's my favorite scene.

:

00:51:09,535 --> 00:51:12,865

I, I absolutely love this

is the absurdist humor.

:

00:51:12,865 --> 00:51:18,055

At the highest point, Lisa pulls a

gun, but before any of that happens,

:

00:51:18,055 --> 00:51:24,415

the mom, I didn't write down her

name, but she is just fantastic.

:

00:51:24,745 --> 00:51:30,805

She, she's so nervous and she's so

conservative and oh, my, and everything.

:

00:51:31,015 --> 00:51:37,555

Gary's a good boy, and then Lisa's

just, just deserves a party and Gary's

:

00:51:37,885 --> 00:51:43,195

just shrinking into the couch, trying

desperately to just stop existing and,

:

00:51:43,405 --> 00:51:45,535

Katie: After she tells them

that he tosses off in the

:

00:51:45,535 --> 00:51:46,585

bathroom and then the mom

:

00:51:46,585 --> 00:51:46,765

is oh,

:

00:51:47,457 --> 00:51:47,857

Russell Guest: I never

:

00:51:48,020 --> 00:51:48,310

Katie: Gary,

:

00:51:48,417 --> 00:51:48,538

Russell Guest: I never

:

00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:49,100

Chad: Yeah.

:

00:51:49,732 --> 00:51:49,792

Russell Guest: do.

:

00:51:49,797 --> 00:51:50,452

I'm telling you,

:

00:51:51,010 --> 00:51:51,820

Chad: Is that why we

:

00:51:51,837 --> 00:51:52,057

Russell Guest: oh,

:

00:51:52,090 --> 00:51:52,270

Chad: have

:

00:51:52,407 --> 00:51:52,697

Russell Guest: Gary,

:

00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:53,950

Chad: Yeah.

:

00:51:54,295 --> 00:51:55,495

Katie: I never mom,

:

00:51:55,665 --> 00:51:56,015

Chad: Uhhuh.

:

00:51:56,335 --> 00:51:57,400

Russell Guest: That was pretty funny.

:

00:51:58,708 --> 00:51:59,518

Katie: don't threaten me.

:

00:51:59,578 --> 00:52:00,328

Ow

:

00:52:00,388 --> 00:52:01,768

you are outta shape.

:

00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,515

Russell Guest: I love how she can just

wipe his memory like Min black style

:

00:52:05,605 --> 00:52:07,795

and then like he can't remember later.

:

00:52:07,795 --> 00:52:11,835

And that's a great reoccurring joke of

I don't know who you're talking about.

:

00:52:12,528 --> 00:52:16,638

Katie: Even in the like, final scene, even

in the final scene after they're taking

:

00:52:16,638 --> 00:52:19,428

the girls home and the, what was Gary

:

00:52:19,428 --> 00:52:19,788

Driving?

:

00:52:19,788 --> 00:52:21,018

The red Ferrari.

:

00:52:21,585 --> 00:52:22,005

Russell Guest: Yeah.

:

00:52:22,248 --> 00:52:24,438

Katie: in the car and she's

like, well look, that's scary.

:

00:52:24,468 --> 00:52:26,958

Who's this Gary character?

:

00:52:27,258 --> 00:52:27,648

I love it.

:

00:52:28,368 --> 00:52:29,388

The great gag throughout the

:

00:52:29,505 --> 00:52:30,600

Russell Guest: He got so

fed up with, he was like,

:

00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:31,400

I

:

00:52:31,725 --> 00:52:32,985

don't know.

:

00:52:32,985 --> 00:52:33,615

No, no.

:

00:52:33,705 --> 00:52:34,665

And I want you to shut that up.

:

00:52:39,348 --> 00:52:44,298

Katie: They looked like they were like

65, like were, did parents look like

:

00:52:44,298 --> 00:52:45,138

that in the eighties?

:

00:52:46,335 --> 00:52:46,775

Russell Guest: I don't

:

00:52:47,148 --> 00:52:49,518

Chad: like it, my mom has

somehow gotten younger

:

00:52:49,573 --> 00:52:49,993

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:52:50,358 --> 00:52:53,958

Chad: as she's gotten older, get

out of those eighties big hairstyles

:

00:52:54,018 --> 00:52:55,998

and the perms and everything else.

:

00:52:56,268 --> 00:52:58,368

And once she, they start

letting their hair down.

:

00:52:59,328 --> 00:52:59,808

Okay.

:

00:52:59,898 --> 00:53:00,228

Alright.

:

00:53:00,228 --> 00:53:03,348

Now we can have, there's been

internet memes all over the place.

:

00:53:03,348 --> 00:53:07,548

If this is what somebody looked

like in their fifties in:

:

00:53:07,693 --> 00:53:08,113

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:53:08,928 --> 00:53:09,618

Chad: to me more.

:

00:53:09,858 --> 00:53:10,188

Okay.

:

00:53:10,513 --> 00:53:10,803

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:53:11,033 --> 00:53:11,604

Yeah, yeah.

:

00:53:12,618 --> 00:53:16,468

Have you guys seen the one of

Alice from the Brady Bunch?

:

00:53:16,798 --> 00:53:18,928

They just put a different

hairstyle on her and

:

00:53:18,928 --> 00:53:20,518

she looks massively different.

:

00:53:20,955 --> 00:53:21,175

Russell Guest: Wow.

:

00:53:21,178 --> 00:53:22,318

Katie: I think it's the hair.

:

00:53:22,618 --> 00:53:23,068

Chad: it is.

:

00:53:23,248 --> 00:53:23,998

Katie: Well, yeah.

:

00:53:24,808 --> 00:53:28,288

now we're gonna talk about

a couple of the bikers.

:

00:53:28,398 --> 00:53:33,228

I mean this movie's just Wild, Lisa, to

try and help these guys gain confidence,

:

00:53:33,588 --> 00:53:38,958

conjures up these mutant bikers to

come so that they can be brave and

:

00:53:38,958 --> 00:53:41,868

kind of bring that out in these two.

:

00:53:42,928 --> 00:53:46,378

I don't think they ever said

his name, but the credit is Lord

:

00:53:46,468 --> 00:53:49,108

General, the biker gang leader.

:

00:53:49,768 --> 00:53:55,258

He's played by Vernon Wells, so he's the

bald guy that has the gun and the chained

:

00:53:55,258 --> 00:53:58,198

to him by the neck, like a woman that

:

00:53:58,198 --> 00:54:00,328

is somehow like a slave or something.

:

00:54:00,390 --> 00:54:00,810

Russell Guest: Mm-hmm.

:

00:54:00,868 --> 00:54:02,548

Katie: I mean, this scene is just wild.

:

00:54:02,918 --> 00:54:06,728

But I am very unfamiliar

:

00:54:06,728 --> 00:54:08,708

with the road warrior, like

:

00:54:08,810 --> 00:54:09,030

Russell Guest: Oh,

:

00:54:09,068 --> 00:54:09,698

Katie: Max.

:

00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:10,110

Russell Guest: Yeah.

:

00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:13,590

I've only seen the first one actually,

but there's this channeling Mad Max.

:

00:54:13,745 --> 00:54:14,525

A hundred percent.

:

00:54:14,690 --> 00:54:15,110

Mm-hmm.

:

00:54:15,113 --> 00:54:19,253

Katie: I guess, well, he was in that,

he basically plays the same character.

:

00:54:19,343 --> 00:54:24,723

Apparently he wears the same makeup

mohawk mesh tank top studded leather.

:

00:54:25,123 --> 00:54:26,653

He's Australian, obviously.

:

00:54:26,713 --> 00:54:34,663

'cause of the way, you can't even take a

shower with a lady wearing y'all jeans.

:

00:54:34,723 --> 00:54:35,593

I just loved it.

:

00:54:35,593 --> 00:54:36,343

It was funny.

:

00:54:36,743 --> 00:54:42,983

But he was also in commando and

he has over 250 acting credits.

:

00:54:42,983 --> 00:54:43,553

This Vernon

:

00:54:43,553 --> 00:54:44,063

Wells?

:

00:54:45,608 --> 00:54:45,758

Chad: I

:

00:54:46,070 --> 00:54:47,840

Russell Guest: Berryman's,

the one that stands out to me.

:

00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:48,140

The,

:

00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:48,800

the,

:

00:54:48,818 --> 00:54:48,968

Chad: gonna

:

00:54:49,070 --> 00:54:49,940

Russell Guest: the bald head

:

00:54:49,940 --> 00:54:50,550

Chad: franchise.

:

00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,510

Katie: Yeah, it's, so, the, the

mutant biker, the, there's something

:

00:54:54,620 --> 00:54:57,440

I forget the name of it, but there's

a condition that he has that makes

:

00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,990

him Michael Berryman, the actor.

:

00:54:59,990 --> 00:55:00,890

Look, look that way.

:

00:55:00,890 --> 00:55:04,490

The bald biker that refers to his

teaching career as he's leaving.

:

00:55:04,850 --> 00:55:06,230

So how do you guys know him?

:

00:55:06,717 --> 00:55:09,597

Russell Guest: Hills Have Eyes is the one,

yeah, that's the one that I know him from.

:

00:55:09,597 --> 00:55:10,467

Seventies.

:

00:55:10,557 --> 00:55:11,367

Seventies Hills.

:

00:55:11,367 --> 00:55:11,847

Eye of Eyes.

:

00:55:11,907 --> 00:55:13,077

So that's a good bit before this.

:

00:55:13,077 --> 00:55:13,977

He has that face that.

:

00:55:15,192 --> 00:55:15,912

You don't forget it.

:

00:55:15,962 --> 00:55:20,122

So you'll know him right again, but to

hear him speak was pretty funny, to have

:

00:55:20,122 --> 00:55:24,142

that disarming if you could just not tell

anybody about this, I'd appreciate that.

:

00:55:24,147 --> 00:55:26,062

I, I hate for it to get in

the way of my teaching job.

:

00:55:26,272 --> 00:55:27,112

I mean, that,

:

00:55:27,472 --> 00:55:27,982

that

:

00:55:28,312 --> 00:55:30,062

was the best laugh of the mutant stuff.

:

00:55:30,062 --> 00:55:33,362

And again, this movie

is absurdist that movie.

:

00:55:33,462 --> 00:55:37,782

There's other times in other movies where

that's too much and you've gone too far.

:

00:55:37,782 --> 00:55:40,272

But because this is the movie,

you've already thrown a nuclear

:

00:55:40,272 --> 00:55:41,592

missile going up through the house.

:

00:55:41,592 --> 00:55:45,702

We've created a woman with brass

on her head you can go downtown to

:

00:55:45,702 --> 00:55:50,452

an all, African American drinking

establishment and yeah, sure.

:

00:55:50,512 --> 00:55:52,222

Let's throw mutant bikers in there too.

:

00:55:52,222 --> 00:55:54,892

It doesn't, it's, it's not

a challenge in the reality.

:

00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:58,630

Chad: Candy Bar is a

great name for a bar too.

:

00:55:58,720 --> 00:55:59,200

I enjoyed that.

:

00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:00,640

Katie: is.

:

00:56:00,670 --> 00:56:06,100

Just to tie the tie up, Michael

Berryman, he, I, again, I don't

:

00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,570

think I've seen one, flew over to the

:

00:56:07,570 --> 00:56:09,610

Cuckoo's Nest, but he's in that too.

:

00:56:09,667 --> 00:56:10,432

Russell Guest: Oh, that's a great movie.

:

00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:12,070

Katie: Do you guys

remember who he is in that?

:

00:56:12,637 --> 00:56:14,707

Russell Guest: Gosh, we

covered that a long time ago.

:

00:56:14,707 --> 00:56:15,697

It was in our first season.

:

00:56:15,697 --> 00:56:17,107

In fact, Chad, I don't,

:

00:56:17,305 --> 00:56:20,725

Chad: just, I don't remember

him being an important role, so

:

00:56:20,725 --> 00:56:21,835

he is probably just one of the

:

00:56:21,835 --> 00:56:22,525

background

:

00:56:22,675 --> 00:56:22,965

Katie: yeah,

:

00:56:22,975 --> 00:56:23,665

Chad: patients.

:

00:56:24,037 --> 00:56:24,457

Russell Guest: yeah,

:

00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:26,290

Katie: I did find the condition.

:

00:56:26,290 --> 00:56:29,380

So he has over 114 acting

credits, which is wild.

:

00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:32,250

Because he, he looks very

specific and it's a rare

:

00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:36,450

condition called hypo hydrotic,

:

00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:38,310

epidermal dysplasia,

:

00:56:38,792 --> 00:56:39,442

Russell Guest: glad you said it.

:

00:56:39,597 --> 00:56:40,047

Not me.

:

00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:40,740

Katie: yeah.

:

00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:45,810

We'll see if anybody is aware of this,

if I pronounced it correctly, no sweat,

:

00:56:45,810 --> 00:56:48,030

clans, hair, fingernails, or teeth.

:

00:56:49,380 --> 00:56:50,220

That's what, yeah.

:

00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,000

Interesting.

:

00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:51,150

Chad: the

:

00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:51,660

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:56:51,705 --> 00:56:51,706

Chad: Yeah.

:

00:56:52,017 --> 00:56:52,527

Russell Guest: Didn't know about the

:

00:56:52,527 --> 00:56:52,767

teeth.

:

00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,480

Katie: But yeah.

:

00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,450

Do you, did you guys recognize

the guy from the candy bar?

:

00:56:57,450 --> 00:57:00,330

The white man from the candy bar, Dino,

:

00:57:01,050 --> 00:57:01,800

had the hat on.

:

00:57:02,682 --> 00:57:02,902

Russell Guest: No.

:

00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,990

Katie: he's also from John Hughes movies.

:

00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:07,410

Two of

:

00:57:07,410 --> 00:57:08,010

them.

:

00:57:09,417 --> 00:57:11,037

Russell Guest: John Hughes

definitely goes back to his people.

:

00:57:11,097 --> 00:57:11,277

Yeah.

:

00:57:11,277 --> 00:57:12,417

I mean, John Hughes, definitely.

:

00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:13,980

Chad: we should say the Great Outdoors,

:

00:57:14,097 --> 00:57:14,187

Russell Guest: Yeah.

:

00:57:14,187 --> 00:57:15,897

He's like, he's like

the, he's like the Judd

:

00:57:16,287 --> 00:57:17,127

Aal before his time.

:

00:57:17,127 --> 00:57:20,547

He gets his people and he keeps coming

back to them over and over and over again.

:

00:57:20,547 --> 00:57:21,372

And what?

:

00:57:21,450 --> 00:57:21,750

Chad: Yes.

:

00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:24,120

Katie: the actor's name is John Capos.

:

00:57:24,297 --> 00:57:24,717

Russell Guest: Okay.

:

00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:25,830

Katie: Is that helping you at all?

:

00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:29,160

He played Carl the janitor in the

:

00:57:29,187 --> 00:57:29,997

Russell Guest: Breakfast Club.

:

00:57:30,387 --> 00:57:31,047

Breakfast Club,

:

00:57:31,677 --> 00:57:32,337

it's very different.

:

00:57:33,575 --> 00:57:33,795

Katie: Yes.

:

00:57:34,255 --> 00:57:36,990

And also in 16 candles.

:

00:57:36,990 --> 00:57:40,140

He plays the sister's husband,

like she's getting married.

:

00:57:40,590 --> 00:57:42,210

That's who she, that's who he is.

:

00:57:42,210 --> 00:57:42,510

Yeah.

:

00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:46,059

Yeah, so we have IRA Newborn here.

:

00:57:46,345 --> 00:57:50,755

He did the music, but he's done

a ton of John Hughes movies.

:

00:57:50,755 --> 00:57:54,565

Like they collaborate often together,

16 Candles, Ferris Bueller, plane

:

00:57:54,595 --> 00:57:57,055

trains, automobiles, uncle Buck,

et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

:

00:57:57,085 --> 00:58:02,785

But to your point, Russell, that main

theme song is done by Pop Groupo Boingo.

:

00:58:02,785 --> 00:58:02,875

Right.

:

00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:04,720

Which was

:

00:58:04,822 --> 00:58:04,823

Russell Guest: Mm-hmm.

:

00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,120

Katie: I really liked It

:

00:58:07,607 --> 00:58:07,827

Russell Guest: it.

:

00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:08,350

Chad: Danny

:

00:58:08,350 --> 00:58:10,215

Elman say it was the worst

thing he's ever done?

:

00:58:10,407 --> 00:58:10,827

Russell Guest: he did.

:

00:58:10,847 --> 00:58:13,432

But I mean, it's, it's not that it's okay.

:

00:58:13,432 --> 00:58:16,972

So if you just said, here, listen

to this song, you do not put it in

:

00:58:16,972 --> 00:58:21,022

your ears and say, this is part of

the all time best:

:

00:58:21,502 --> 00:58:25,672

but it's attached to this movie and

it's the right thing for this movie.

:

00:58:25,822 --> 00:58:27,142

This movie is absurd.

:

00:58:27,292 --> 00:58:29,062

You must have an absurd piece of music.

:

00:58:29,272 --> 00:58:30,867

So, I mean, I.

:

00:58:31,852 --> 00:58:35,062

If you were to say what movie, what song

didn't get in here from the eighties,

:

00:58:35,062 --> 00:58:37,732

and I don't know if it had been made

yet, blinded me with science would've

:

00:58:37,732 --> 00:58:39,442

been a fun thing to have gotten in here.

:

00:58:39,742 --> 00:58:40,312

Um,

:

00:58:40,930 --> 00:58:41,220

Katie: Call.

:

00:58:41,575 --> 00:58:41,865

Chad: Yeah.

:

00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:45,232

Russell Guest: also pretty absurd, but

you know, we're having fun with it.

:

00:58:45,850 --> 00:58:47,080

Katie: Yeah, good call.

:

00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,210

So this movie was successful.

:

00:58:49,210 --> 00:58:51,100

It had a budget of $7.5

:

00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:53,800

million and it made 38.9

:

00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:54,970

at the box office.

:

00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:56,980

So that's pretty good, I would say.

:

00:58:57,562 --> 00:58:59,632

Russell Guest: I love that

comedies do well in the eighties.

:

00:58:59,632 --> 00:59:00,622

It makes me really happy.

:

00:59:00,622 --> 00:59:04,882

It's comedies are my favorite genre and

they're not being pushed hard right now.

:

00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,390

Katie: No, it's hard to come by.

:

00:59:07,390 --> 00:59:08,290

I agree.

:

00:59:08,660 --> 00:59:11,540

Can you guys think of other

memorable lines from this movie?

:

00:59:11,867 --> 00:59:12,172

Russell Guest: of 'em.

:

00:59:12,177 --> 00:59:14,537

There are so many great lines in this one.

:

00:59:14,987 --> 00:59:17,357

I, like I mentioned, like I'm

gonna tell mom and dad everything.

:

00:59:17,447 --> 00:59:19,187

I'm even thinking about

making some stuff up.

:

00:59:19,247 --> 00:59:20,927

I I, I definitely like that.

:

00:59:21,047 --> 00:59:23,857

You know, the so what do you

little maniacs want to do?

:

00:59:23,857 --> 00:59:25,297

First is

:

00:59:25,420 --> 00:59:25,600

Katie: of my

:

00:59:25,627 --> 00:59:27,397

Russell Guest: like, That's just what,

:

00:59:27,757 --> 00:59:31,627

if you say weird science,

I think of her saying that.

:

00:59:32,325 --> 00:59:36,610

Katie: So, so what would your

little maniacs like to do first?

:

00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,385

Yeah, love it.

:

00:59:38,590 --> 00:59:40,810

Chad: I just appreciated

the fourth wall break when

:

00:59:40,810 --> 00:59:41,650

Katie: Ooh, good call.

:

00:59:41,710 --> 00:59:44,140

Chad: think it was Chet that says,

the next thing you know, you'll be

:

00:59:44,140 --> 00:59:45,580

wearing a bra on your head and why?

:

00:59:45,580 --> 00:59:46,150

It just looks so.

:

00:59:46,990 --> 00:59:47,320

Katie: They do.

:

00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:53,830

Look at the, even at the end, I liked

the you know, this, this is gonna

:

00:59:53,830 --> 00:59:58,300

spoil the movie in case you guys

haven't seen it this whole 40 years.

:

00:59:58,330 --> 01:00:02,330

But at the end, we

panned to a gym teacher.

:

01:00:03,230 --> 01:00:08,270

We don't see who it is yet, but we pan up

this super, super eighties cool outfit,

:

01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:14,120

there's a, the gym teacher's twirling

the whistle and, oh, look, it's Lisa,

:

01:00:14,180 --> 01:00:16,220

and she looks at the camera and winks.

:

01:00:16,330 --> 01:00:16,750

Chad: Mm-hmm.

:

01:00:17,900 --> 01:00:18,510

Fantastic.

:

01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:19,280

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:00:19,562 --> 01:00:20,707

Russell Guest: Great

advantage, by the way.

:

01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,190

Katie: Great.

:

01:00:22,190 --> 01:00:22,430

What?

:

01:00:22,607 --> 01:00:23,027

Russell Guest: Finish

:

01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,460

Katie: Yeah, agreed.

:

01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,450

But getting back to the favorite lines

I liked Chet's insults and I liked,

:

01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,690

like after Chet turns into that.

:

01:00:35,295 --> 01:00:35,775

Weird

:

01:00:35,775 --> 01:00:35,985

mom.

:

01:00:36,015 --> 01:00:37,665

What was he supposed to be by,

:

01:00:37,752 --> 01:00:40,482

Russell Guest: like a frog,

like a really ugly frog, like a.

:

01:00:40,635 --> 01:00:42,255

Chad: some kind of job of the hut

:

01:00:42,585 --> 01:00:43,005

Katie: Jo.

:

01:00:43,185 --> 01:00:43,935

Yeah.

:

01:00:44,055 --> 01:00:47,655

Weird, weird creature that Chet was.

:

01:00:47,805 --> 01:00:51,105

When Gary and Wyatt come back and

see him that way, Wyatt's like,

:

01:00:51,105 --> 01:00:53,445

you gotta, you, we can't have this.

:

01:00:53,835 --> 01:00:55,545

It had ruined Christmas.

:

01:00:55,977 --> 01:00:56,667

Russell Guest: That is good.

:

01:00:56,685 --> 01:00:57,195

Katie: it was funny.

:

01:00:57,967 --> 01:01:00,327

Russell Guest: You brought up one

of my other favorites with the don't

:

01:01:00,327 --> 01:01:04,017

you think of how incredibly sad your

son's only sexual outlet is tossing

:

01:01:04,017 --> 01:01:05,607

off to magazines in the bathroom.

:

01:01:05,937 --> 01:01:07,377

Oh, Gary

:

01:01:07,485 --> 01:01:08,535

Katie: Gary

:

01:01:08,697 --> 01:01:09,177

Russell Guest: Ma.

:

01:01:09,387 --> 01:01:11,397

I never toss it off to anything.

:

01:01:13,785 --> 01:01:15,645

Katie: and then she's like,

we're going to a party.

:

01:01:16,215 --> 01:01:17,445

A movie A movie party.

:

01:01:17,565 --> 01:01:21,375

You know, your standard, how, how

she says it like in such quick

:

01:01:21,375 --> 01:01:23,895

succession, like chips, dips, whips.

:

01:01:24,585 --> 01:01:27,945

Change, you know, like just a, you

know, a couple hundred teenagers

:

01:01:28,305 --> 01:01:30,165

having an orgy or something like that.

:

01:01:30,225 --> 01:01:31,125

And then they're like, oh

:

01:01:31,125 --> 01:01:32,175

my God,

:

01:01:33,342 --> 01:01:33,822

Russell Guest: I like the

:

01:01:33,842 --> 01:01:34,412

Katie: a joint.

:

01:01:34,412 --> 01:01:36,722

I think even on the couch too.

:

01:01:37,562 --> 01:01:38,612

Chad: something like that.

:

01:01:39,062 --> 01:01:39,122

It.

:

01:01:39,585 --> 01:01:40,545

Russell Guest: I, I like the.

:

01:01:40,547 --> 01:01:45,227

Chad: line for me with Gary,

like Wyatt's to bring them back.

:

01:01:45,227 --> 01:01:46,067

And Gary says, why are you

:

01:01:46,067 --> 01:01:47,297

messing with the fantasy?

:

01:01:48,047 --> 01:01:48,257

we

:

01:01:48,270 --> 01:01:48,870

Russell Guest: That is good.

:

01:01:48,947 --> 01:01:49,847

Chad: about the reality.

:

01:01:50,027 --> 01:01:50,387

Russell Guest: I like,

:

01:01:50,605 --> 01:01:51,025

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:01:51,047 --> 01:01:53,807

Russell Guest: like his grandma, Carmen

being in the restaurant, it's like,

:

01:01:53,867 --> 01:01:58,637

let's go in and check on Wyatt because

if there's anything a teenage boy

:

01:01:59,207 --> 01:02:02,417

has about most, it's his grandparents.

:

01:02:02,567 --> 01:02:03,617

And I just thought that thought.

:

01:02:05,890 --> 01:02:09,460

Katie: So many, I thought it was

actually pretty sweet towards the

:

01:02:09,460 --> 01:02:15,370

end too, when the boys get the

girls and Gary is having to kind of,

:

01:02:17,890 --> 01:02:19,570

Tell Deb, no, I really like you.

:

01:02:19,570 --> 01:02:21,340

'cause she's like, but Lisa look at her.

:

01:02:21,340 --> 01:02:22,990

And he's like, yeah, yeah.

:

01:02:23,420 --> 01:02:28,040

Lisa's everything I wanted in a

girl before I knew what I wanted.

:

01:02:28,940 --> 01:02:31,520

If I could do it again,

I'd make her like you.

:

01:02:31,610 --> 01:02:32,870

And I thought that was sweet.

:

01:02:33,230 --> 01:02:33,520

Chad: that

:

01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,990

Katie: it's true, like very typical.

:

01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:41,270

Like they created what a typical teenage

boy dreams about, but in reality,

:

01:02:41,690 --> 01:02:46,820

they actually want somebody more like

them, like more realistic, like Deb

:

01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:49,720

know, not the perfect looking woman.

:

01:02:51,325 --> 01:02:54,475

Chad: Yeah, they're, they're feeding

everything into, I, it wasn't

:

01:02:54,475 --> 01:02:56,305

even a scanner, it was like a fax

:

01:02:56,585 --> 01:02:56,875

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:02:57,115 --> 01:02:57,116

Yeah.

:

01:02:58,045 --> 01:03:02,155

Chad: feeding in all these magazine

clippings, the picture of Albert Einstein.

:

01:03:02,305 --> 01:03:07,425

'cause nobody else is smart, I

guess they dial up the all the

:

01:03:07,425 --> 01:03:08,655

intelligence and everything.

:

01:03:08,905 --> 01:03:10,735

That was an interesting way of doing it.

:

01:03:10,735 --> 01:03:13,495

I was, I was telling Katie

before I came on the show,

:

01:03:14,245 --> 01:03:15,895

was accustomed to the TV show.

:

01:03:15,925 --> 01:03:17,785

Like I got to that before.

:

01:03:18,025 --> 01:03:19,825

So the theme song stuck in my head.

:

01:03:19,955 --> 01:03:21,875

That was what they opened the TV show.

:

01:03:22,085 --> 01:03:24,005

Katie: It was the same theme song, Chad.

:

01:03:24,245 --> 01:03:24,455

Chad: Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:24,485 --> 01:03:25,325

Katie: Oh, I see.

:

01:03:25,325 --> 01:03:26,495

I never saw the TV show.

:

01:03:26,545 --> 01:03:31,255

I did like that there was another

imaginary Canadian girlfriend

:

01:03:31,375 --> 01:03:33,085

that Anthony Michael Hall has.

:

01:03:33,475 --> 01:03:34,915

So he had one in breakfast club.

:

01:03:35,005 --> 01:03:35,695

He has one here.

:

01:03:36,115 --> 01:03:36,565

Yeah.

:

01:03:37,315 --> 01:03:38,605

about your girl up in Canada?

:

01:03:39,415 --> 01:03:42,615

And then he talks about her

she kicked me in the nuts man.

:

01:03:42,615 --> 01:03:45,015

At the, the bar in Chicago.

:

01:03:45,375 --> 01:03:46,095

Chad: Yes.

:

01:03:46,545 --> 01:03:46,785

Yeah.

:

01:03:46,785 --> 01:03:49,665

And all the people are in the jewels or

:

01:03:49,935 --> 01:03:50,265

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:03:50,265 --> 01:03:50,505

Yeah.

:

01:03:50,505 --> 01:03:51,015

They're like

:

01:03:51,030 --> 01:03:51,270

Chad: Yeah.

:

01:03:51,345 --> 01:03:53,325

Katie: really buying into this story.

:

01:03:55,465 --> 01:03:59,545

So Lisa was made from a Barbie doll drives

a pink convertible just like Barbie.

:

01:04:00,750 --> 01:04:05,490

Russell Guest 2: You mentioned how

they were kind of guiding you to be

:

01:04:05,490 --> 01:04:07,560

with somebody that was more like you

:

01:04:07,770 --> 01:04:10,380

you know, she was mentoring them

to be with the girls their age.

:

01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:14,490

I remember when I was watching this

first, I was still, you know, I don't

:

01:04:14,490 --> 01:04:19,110

know, I, I was 16 or something when I saw

this, and I actually did as, as a kid.

:

01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:21,810

It's funny you keep talking about

like Kelly Lerock being like the,

:

01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,960

you know, I thought, I thought

Deb was like, kind of was, I was

:

01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:25,470

Chad: Mm-hmm.

:

01:04:25,890 --> 01:04:27,150

Russell Guest 2: eh, I think she's cute.

:

01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:30,730

So you know, when I first saw it

I remember being kind of smitten

:

01:04:30,730 --> 01:04:34,810

with the two girls that they

were setting them up with, know.

:

01:04:35,620 --> 01:04:38,080

Just, that's whatever

wavelength I was on at the time.

:

01:04:38,993 --> 01:04:39,773

Katie: Which makes sense.

:

01:04:39,773 --> 01:04:43,133

When you're a kid, you're probably

not attracted to an adult yet.

:

01:04:43,793 --> 01:04:44,543

You know what I mean?

:

01:04:44,543 --> 01:04:46,523

Because Kelly was like

a, you know what I mean?

:

01:04:46,573 --> 01:04:48,373

Chad: 15-year-old boys, that's yeah.

:

01:04:48,568 --> 01:04:49,978

Russell Guest 2: I mean,

at the same time, I just,

:

01:04:49,983 --> 01:04:52,533

Katie: oh, I thought you were

saying when you were like 10 or

:

01:04:52,533 --> 01:04:54,783

whatever, watching this as opposed to

:

01:04:54,928 --> 01:04:56,608

Russell Guest 2: it when

I was 16, but yeah, like

:

01:04:56,673 --> 01:04:57,303

Katie: Oh, okay.

:

01:04:57,328 --> 01:04:59,248

Russell Guest 2: I, I was probably

in high school by the time I took

:

01:04:59,248 --> 01:05:01,168

this one in, but I remember thinking.

:

01:05:01,993 --> 01:05:05,293

I liked them at the time, and Kelly

Brock was one of those things.

:

01:05:05,323 --> 01:05:07,843

It's so eighties, it had

changed a little bit.

:

01:05:08,653 --> 01:05:11,953

had to go away from it and come

back to it because when I was in

:

01:05:11,953 --> 01:05:16,453

high school, the eighties seemed

pretty, pretty removed at that.

:

01:05:16,633 --> 01:05:20,503

I mean, like it, she's

very eighties and I think

:

01:05:20,568 --> 01:05:20,988

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:05:21,073 --> 01:05:21,433

Russell Guest 2: wardrobes.

:

01:05:21,433 --> 01:05:23,293

So like she's extremely cool for the time.

:

01:05:24,373 --> 01:05:24,973

And then

:

01:05:25,143 --> 01:05:30,603

Katie: Oh, particularly with the

wardrobe, her outfits were amazing.

:

01:05:31,273 --> 01:05:31,563

Chad: Yeah,

:

01:05:31,653 --> 01:05:35,043

Katie: eighties, like for the

eighties, they were really awesome.

:

01:05:35,068 --> 01:05:38,128

Russell Guest 2: so when I probably

took that in, probably give or take

:

01:05:38,128 --> 01:05:42,658

around maybe the year or:

something like that, you know, that

:

01:05:42,658 --> 01:05:45,268

that was like super dated at that point.

:

01:05:45,448 --> 01:05:45,898

So,

:

01:05:46,258 --> 01:05:49,513

Katie: I guess I would argue that her,

her actual looks she had big hair and

:

01:05:49,513 --> 01:05:51,703

stuff, but her makeup was very classic.

:

01:05:52,168 --> 01:05:55,738

Whereas Deb and Hilly had

really eighties makeup.

:

01:05:55,918 --> 01:05:59,068

Like I thought they, and their outfits

were really like, and their hair.

:

01:05:59,068 --> 01:06:01,018

I thought Deb and Hilly looked more dated.

:

01:06:02,068 --> 01:06:03,418

But I see your point.

:

01:06:03,538 --> 01:06:04,348

I see your point.

:

01:06:04,428 --> 01:06:07,758

I was just about to ask you guys

about the gymnastics in this.

:

01:06:09,198 --> 01:06:12,558

There have been several eighties

movies in high school where they

:

01:06:12,948 --> 01:06:17,298

showcase a gymnastics team or

doing gymnastics in gym class.

:

01:06:17,868 --> 01:06:20,298

That was certainly never

a thing at my high school.

:

01:06:20,628 --> 01:06:22,728

Was that a thing where you guys grew up?

:

01:06:22,728 --> 01:06:23,058

I don't.

:

01:06:23,058 --> 01:06:25,728

I assume it's regional, but gymnastics.

:

01:06:26,138 --> 01:06:30,338

Russell Guest 2: baseline like we didn't

have anything fancy at gym time, so.

:

01:06:31,083 --> 01:06:31,293

Chad: see.

:

01:06:31,293 --> 01:06:36,093

It was for us, uh uh, Mary Lou Rutten

is from West Virginia, so there

:

01:06:36,093 --> 01:06:42,153

was a big push of Mary Lou Rutten's

fitness and a big push of gymnastics.

:

01:06:42,153 --> 01:06:44,583

So yeah, that's, that stuck with me.

:

01:06:44,583 --> 01:06:46,353

Now, we didn't have any

of the nice equipment.

:

01:06:46,353 --> 01:06:51,003

We didn't have poel horses or gymnastics

teams or anything, but there was a

:

01:06:51,123 --> 01:06:53,433

fitness challenge and it was like a.

:

01:06:53,823 --> 01:06:55,588

West Virginia pride type thing.

:

01:06:56,008 --> 01:06:56,228

So

:

01:06:56,328 --> 01:06:58,248

Katie: Well, that makes

sense if she's from there.

:

01:06:58,248 --> 01:07:02,838

But I don't know, like in Footloose,

he joins the gymnastics team.

:

01:07:02,838 --> 01:07:06,948

There's a team that competes like,

just like football and basketball.

:

01:07:06,978 --> 01:07:09,738

There's a gymnastics team in a

lot of these eighties movies.

:

01:07:09,738 --> 01:07:11,988

And I'm like, I don't know, man.

:

01:07:11,988 --> 01:07:13,008

Is that just in movies?

:

01:07:13,163 --> 01:07:13,433

Russell Guest 2: didn't,

:

01:07:13,638 --> 01:07:14,118

Katie: never

:

01:07:14,123 --> 01:07:14,453

Russell Guest 2: didn't have a

:

01:07:14,463 --> 01:07:15,483

Chad: bring it on.

:

01:07:15,533 --> 01:07:16,193

Russell Guest 2: I don't think.

:

01:07:16,223 --> 01:07:16,823

I don't know.

:

01:07:16,853 --> 01:07:18,338

I just, I don't remember it being.

:

01:07:20,103 --> 01:07:22,473

Chad: No, our high school

definitely didn't, but other

:

01:07:22,473 --> 01:07:23,793

things have blown up too.

:

01:07:23,793 --> 01:07:26,913

Like lacrosse is everywhere

and we didn't have lacrosse.

:

01:07:27,018 --> 01:07:27,678

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:07:27,918 --> 01:07:29,478

Saying, yeah, that's a good point.

:

01:07:29,478 --> 01:07:29,958

Good point.

:

01:07:30,008 --> 01:07:32,648

So you think it might've

just been like a time, like a

:

01:07:32,843 --> 01:07:33,023

Chad: could

:

01:07:33,038 --> 01:07:33,758

Katie: eighties thing?

:

01:07:33,923 --> 01:07:35,363

Chad: it could be trends or something

:

01:07:35,378 --> 01:07:35,828

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:07:35,923 --> 01:07:36,703

Chad: I don't know,

:

01:07:36,923 --> 01:07:40,493

Russell Guest 2: The Hughes universe takes

place in Chicago where there's way more

:

01:07:40,573 --> 01:07:40,993

Katie: Yep.

:

01:07:41,063 --> 01:07:43,703

Russell Guest 2: and way more funds

in their schools than Chad and I

:

01:07:43,703 --> 01:07:47,663

grew up in West Virginia and our

school graduating class was probably

:

01:07:47,663 --> 01:07:50,093

somewhere around, I dunno how big

:

01:07:50,148 --> 01:07:51,553

Chad: 222.

:

01:07:51,683 --> 01:07:52,013

Russell Guest 2: Chad.

:

01:07:52,043 --> 01:07:54,593

So it's a very small high school

and we didn't even have a ninth

:

01:07:54,593 --> 01:07:56,393

grade in our high school most

of the time that we were there.

:

01:07:56,393 --> 01:07:57,143

So, I mean,

:

01:07:57,193 --> 01:07:58,393

Katie: oh wow.

:

01:07:58,463 --> 01:08:00,363

Russell Guest 2: didn't

we, we did not have.

:

01:08:00,488 --> 01:08:03,788

Chad: way he phrased that is just like,

we had no ninth grade now that we had

:

01:08:03,788 --> 01:08:05,978

a junior high and then a high school.

:

01:08:06,128 --> 01:08:08,798

It just, it was a different

order than middle school and high

:

01:08:09,053 --> 01:08:09,623

Katie: Okay.

:

01:08:10,013 --> 01:08:10,403

Yep.

:

01:08:10,568 --> 01:08:13,358

Chad: Russell just, we just

didn't have a ninth grade.

:

01:08:13,358 --> 01:08:14,348

It was West Virginia.

:

01:08:14,573 --> 01:08:15,113

Katie: I was like, oh.

:

01:08:15,113 --> 01:08:16,582

So you go from eighth to 10.

:

01:08:16,582 --> 01:08:17,452

That's so sweet.

:

01:08:17,707 --> 01:08:18,818

Chad: we can't count.

:

01:08:18,948 --> 01:08:19,728

Russell Guest 2: yeah, the high school

:

01:08:19,792 --> 01:08:23,723

Katie: No offense, but West Virginians

are not, not known for their high IQs.

:

01:08:24,008 --> 01:08:24,868

Chad: we are not we

:

01:08:25,483 --> 01:08:26,413

Katie: Not you guys.

:

01:08:26,413 --> 01:08:27,073

Not you guys.

:

01:08:27,073 --> 01:08:28,783

I just, I'm teasing, teasing.

:

01:08:28,783 --> 01:08:31,778

Because you know, there's a

joke, there's jokes about West

:

01:08:31,778 --> 01:08:32,903

Virginia, Hey, I'm from Nebraska.

:

01:08:32,903 --> 01:08:34,372

We're not much better, but like.

:

01:08:34,658 --> 01:08:35,497

Chad: is my wife's family.

:

01:08:35,497 --> 01:08:35,707

Yeah.

:

01:08:35,808 --> 01:08:40,207

Katie: Tailing the number 46

of 50 state, you know, I assume

:

01:08:40,207 --> 01:08:42,127

like in in education or whatnot.

:

01:08:42,127 --> 01:08:42,188

Yeah.

:

01:08:42,308 --> 01:08:43,957

Chad: motto was, thank

God for Mississippi.

:

01:08:45,443 --> 01:08:45,733

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:08:46,298 --> 01:08:46,988

That's funny.

:

01:08:47,618 --> 01:08:49,207

Yeah, that sounds about right.

:

01:08:49,728 --> 01:08:54,337

Also, super eighties is

VCRs as bribery payments.

:

01:08:55,008 --> 01:08:55,943

Chad: Oh yes.

:

01:08:56,423 --> 01:08:56,962

Jets.

:

01:08:57,038 --> 01:08:58,358

Katie: What's it gonna cost me?

:

01:08:59,228 --> 01:09:02,618

Your VCR ought to do it, ought to

cover it, or something like that.

:

01:09:02,962 --> 01:09:06,533

Chad: like three, $400

and:

:

01:09:06,683 --> 01:09:09,233

Like I can't imagine

how expensive that was.

:

01:09:09,383 --> 01:09:09,803

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:09:09,872 --> 01:09:11,943

Russell Guest 2: they get up to

dealing with 4 0 1 Ks at some point.

:

01:09:11,943 --> 01:09:13,792

So, all of you're in

your retirement funds,

:

01:09:13,861 --> 01:09:17,911

Katie: one thing that didn't make me think

twice when I was a kid, but watching it

:

01:09:18,001 --> 01:09:25,681

yesterday, the deal that Max and Ian tried

to make, it's like, you give us a crack at

:

01:09:25,681 --> 01:09:30,151

Lisa and we'll let you have Deb and Hilly.

:

01:09:31,231 --> 01:09:32,701

That's wild.

:

01:09:32,956 --> 01:09:33,826

Chad: that's gross.

:

01:09:33,901 --> 01:09:34,381

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:09:34,421 --> 01:09:34,961

Russell Guest 2: I know

:

01:09:35,056 --> 01:09:36,256

Chad: just gross all over them

:

01:09:36,431 --> 01:09:39,611

Russell Guest 2: who traded

girlfriends in a very, you know, it,

:

01:09:39,631 --> 01:09:40,531

Katie: no.

:

01:09:41,140 --> 01:09:41,350

Russell Guest 2: Yeah.

:

01:09:43,291 --> 01:09:44,911

Katie: Oh, even in the two thousands.

:

01:09:44,921 --> 01:09:45,121

Oh.

:

01:09:45,316 --> 01:09:45,856

Russell Guest 2: just two

:

01:09:46,131 --> 01:09:47,361

Chad: I, I don't think it was,

:

01:09:47,416 --> 01:09:47,595

Russell Guest 2: your

:

01:09:47,616 --> 01:09:47,736

Chad: I.

:

01:09:48,076 --> 01:09:48,345

Russell Guest 2: better.

:

01:09:48,406 --> 01:09:49,216

Why don't we trade?

:

01:09:49,216 --> 01:09:52,336

Without it just, and it

it, it ended up happening.

:

01:09:52,336 --> 01:09:54,856

They ended up dating each other's

girlfriends or something like that.

:

01:09:54,966 --> 01:09:56,046

I didn't have a girlfriend at the time.

:

01:09:56,046 --> 01:10:00,216

I was closer to Gary

and Wyatt in this movie.

:

01:10:00,216 --> 01:10:02,996

So, I was sitting there going

you guys are not being nice.

:

01:10:04,063 --> 01:10:10,147

Chad: But I mean at, at worst, like

they, with Lisa referring to herself

:

01:10:10,147 --> 01:10:16,567

as a sexpot or whatever, like that's

not, that's just gross in any nature.

:

01:10:16,597 --> 01:10:19,827

You have all these you find

inflatable dolls and stuff like

:

01:10:19,827 --> 01:10:23,187

that in the woods, and occasionally

you'll see pictures of that.

:

01:10:23,597 --> 01:10:25,847

Nobody's, nobody's reusing that.

:

01:10:25,947 --> 01:10:26,567

Katie: Oh God.

:

01:10:26,642 --> 01:10:27,152

Chad: No.

:

01:10:27,872 --> 01:10:28,802

That's so,

:

01:10:29,227 --> 01:10:29,447

Katie: Oh

:

01:10:29,582 --> 01:10:29,642

Chad: a,

:

01:10:29,747 --> 01:10:29,967

Katie: God.

:

01:10:30,002 --> 01:10:30,782

Chad: a creepy thought.

:

01:10:31,052 --> 01:10:31,442

Katie: It

:

01:10:31,442 --> 01:10:32,252

Chad: girlfriends too.

:

01:10:32,252 --> 01:10:33,962

It's like, we'll let you

have our girlfriends.

:

01:10:33,967 --> 01:10:36,032

No, Ask them.

:

01:10:36,102 --> 01:10:37,062

Russell Guest 2: thought

it was one of those

:

01:10:37,322 --> 01:10:37,532

Katie: well,

:

01:10:37,542 --> 01:10:38,922

Russell Guest 2: things

where nobody questions it.

:

01:10:39,372 --> 01:10:39,852

There are two

:

01:10:40,157 --> 01:10:40,447

Katie: yeah,

:

01:10:40,602 --> 01:10:40,692

Russell Guest 2: a,

:

01:10:40,737 --> 01:10:41,087

Katie: maybe.

:

01:10:41,352 --> 01:10:43,992

Russell Guest 2: older girl and

minus Gary's parents seeming

:

01:10:43,992 --> 01:10:45,072

to have a real issue with it.

:

01:10:45,312 --> 01:10:47,582

For the most part,

there's not a lot of wait.

:

01:10:47,972 --> 01:10:49,652

You're both sharing one girlfriend.

:

01:10:49,892 --> 01:10:50,852

How's that work?

:

01:10:50,972 --> 01:10:53,192

Nobody, nobody even stops to think

:

01:10:53,247 --> 01:10:53,537

Katie: Good

:

01:10:53,612 --> 01:10:53,732

Russell Guest 2: it.

:

01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:54,242

Like it,

:

01:10:54,442 --> 01:10:54,562

Katie: point.

:

01:10:54,662 --> 01:10:56,792

Russell Guest 2: So you guys are

with Lisa, then it's like, yep.

:

01:10:56,882 --> 01:10:59,732

And there's just, it's one of those

things where it's just one of those,

:

01:10:59,822 --> 01:11:01,562

there's so much hand waving going on.

:

01:11:01,922 --> 01:11:05,042

You can really get away with an

enormous amount of stuff of like little

:

01:11:05,042 --> 01:11:07,292

potholes and, and things in this.

:

01:11:07,427 --> 01:11:07,667

Chad: I guess.

:

01:11:08,672 --> 01:11:10,232

Russell Guest 2: I'm not

saying that John Hughes wrote.

:

01:11:11,822 --> 01:11:16,022

into it, but it's, it's really

forgiving for those certain things.

:

01:11:16,052 --> 01:11:18,452

'cause the more absurd it is,

kind of the more it works.

:

01:11:19,567 --> 01:11:23,467

Katie: Yeah, I, and thank God for that

because oddly enough, a lot of the stuff

:

01:11:23,547 --> 01:11:26,897

like you said, because of the absurd

nature of it, because of this, because

:

01:11:26,897 --> 01:11:30,617

Lisa's kind of the Mary Poppins figure.

:

01:11:30,617 --> 01:11:31,697

Like it's not gross.

:

01:11:31,697 --> 01:11:36,257

Somehow even though they're like, well,

Gary and Wyatt share her, but then Max

:

01:11:36,257 --> 01:11:38,297

and Ian would like to also share her

:

01:11:38,477 --> 01:11:40,667

and then per eighties, usual.

:

01:11:40,667 --> 01:11:45,767

Just as soon as the parents are about

to walk in the door, the house magically

:

01:11:45,767 --> 01:11:48,257

comes back together in the nick of time.

:

01:11:48,347 --> 01:11:51,557

It's, so that's an eighties trope,

but I always love seeing it.

:

01:11:52,862 --> 01:11:56,117

Chad: Stuff sliding into place

just as the door opens like

:

01:11:56,117 --> 01:11:57,407

that that dresser or whatever

:

01:11:57,432 --> 01:11:57,852

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:11:57,947 --> 01:11:58,102

Chad: end table.

:

01:11:58,352 --> 01:11:58,772

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:11:58,962 --> 01:12:02,562

Russell Guest 2: back in the chimney,

the piano going back together and yeah.

:

01:12:03,107 --> 01:12:03,257

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:12:03,257 --> 01:12:05,957

Like they're outside and they're

not noticing the patio furniture

:

01:12:05,957 --> 01:12:09,037

come back in do you guys have

any additional thoughts from the

:

01:12:09,277 --> 01:12:10,927

interview that you shared, Russell?

:

01:12:10,927 --> 01:12:12,427

It was probably like 40 minutes.

:

01:12:12,907 --> 01:12:16,537

It was the:

and it was a reunion interview

:

01:12:16,537 --> 01:12:18,277

of our three main characters.

:

01:12:18,337 --> 01:12:19,597

Thank you for sharing that, by the way.

:

01:12:20,297 --> 01:12:22,697

Russell Guest 2: These things

are always fun, and I think

:

01:12:22,697 --> 01:12:24,107

this one in particular is fun.

:

01:12:24,857 --> 01:12:27,482

We don't have John Hughes anymore, so

we don't get to hear him talk about it.

:

01:12:28,427 --> 01:12:30,917

And so this is how the movie

will live on to hear from them.

:

01:12:31,847 --> 01:12:37,877

they were so young and movie industry

are not always so kind to younger actors.

:

01:12:38,027 --> 01:12:42,347

Sometimes they end up being forced

to grow up too soon or they're not.

:

01:12:42,467 --> 01:12:43,997

They're put into situations

that they shouldn't.

:

01:12:43,997 --> 01:12:49,322

I mean, you can look at all the tough,

You know, teen acting experiences,

:

01:12:49,322 --> 01:12:52,322

whether it be Corey Feldman or other

people who sometimes they get into

:

01:12:52,322 --> 01:12:55,352

stuff they shouldn't and it's not

a good world to really grow up in.

:

01:12:56,192 --> 01:12:59,462

John was a pretty awesome dude.

:

01:12:59,702 --> 01:13:00,542

He, he,

:

01:13:00,652 --> 01:13:01,072

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:13:01,202 --> 01:13:04,142

Russell Guest 2: them to concerts,

he cared about them, their careers.

:

01:13:04,382 --> 01:13:07,262

He was a, of a big brother of sorts.

:

01:13:07,262 --> 01:13:09,272

He's not old enough to

necessarily be their dad.

:

01:13:10,562 --> 01:13:11,252

but there

:

01:13:11,252 --> 01:13:11,672

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:13:11,912 --> 01:13:14,132

Russell Guest 2: a, a

big brother mentality.

:

01:13:14,552 --> 01:13:17,702

Now, and I don't mean like a che big

brother, I mean a cool big brother.

:

01:13:18,512 --> 01:13:19,262

you know, somebody who,

:

01:13:19,567 --> 01:13:19,857

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:13:19,952 --> 01:13:21,752

Russell Guest 2: about them,

he wanted them to succeed.

:

01:13:21,842 --> 01:13:24,062

He went back to Anthony,

Michael Hall more than once.

:

01:13:24,612 --> 01:13:27,582

Anthony Michael Hall wanted to

break out of that teen geek role,

:

01:13:27,582 --> 01:13:28,932

which was detrimental to his career.

:

01:13:28,932 --> 01:13:31,602

And he should not have done, he should

have rode that train as long and hard

:

01:13:31,602 --> 01:13:35,152

as he could have because his Saturday

night life career was short and it

:

01:13:35,152 --> 01:13:36,982

doesn't go great for him after that.

:

01:13:37,162 --> 01:13:40,373

But John took care of his

people and was tight with them.

:

01:13:40,987 --> 01:13:43,777

He was really hurt when Anthony

Michael Hall didn't want to continue

:

01:13:43,777 --> 01:13:45,967

working with him in the future.

:

01:13:46,167 --> 01:13:46,332

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:13:46,357 --> 01:13:48,097

Russell Guest 2: took things

deeply personally, so he made

:

01:13:48,097 --> 01:13:50,407

friends with these people even

though they were younger than him.

:

01:13:50,407 --> 01:13:55,417

And I don't mean that in a creepy I

mean, he really was an advocate for them.

:

01:13:55,417 --> 01:14:00,777

So, what I would say is it's cool

to see how much he touched those

:

01:14:00,777 --> 01:14:06,897

around him and was really, you know,

a good leader for the film industry.

:

01:14:07,717 --> 01:14:10,897

Cool to see what a good dude he was

and a leader for the film industry.

:

01:14:10,897 --> 01:14:14,647

I think at one point they mentioned you

went on to work on other films, maybe

:

01:14:14,647 --> 01:14:18,847

you got a look at what it should have

been like or that, what it could be like.

:

01:14:19,177 --> 01:14:19,687

And they did.

:

01:14:19,717 --> 01:14:24,697

They all agreed that, you know,

the way John as a director ran his

:

01:14:24,697 --> 01:14:26,497

movie, his set, his cast, his crew

:

01:14:27,612 --> 01:14:28,032

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:28,057 --> 01:14:31,147

Russell Guest 2: to a high standard

and that was something that everybody

:

01:14:31,147 --> 01:14:32,347

who was there enjoyed their time.

:

01:14:32,347 --> 01:14:34,227

And that's not always the case.

:

01:14:34,257 --> 01:14:38,847

So, when people like that who have

an amazing gift, but they also

:

01:14:38,847 --> 01:14:40,737

touch people beyond the screen.

:

01:14:41,607 --> 01:14:44,727

John, he's a special dude, so I know that

you've dedicated a whole season to him.

:

01:14:45,057 --> 01:14:48,118

It helps an awful lot when the

people who worked with him.

:

01:14:48,942 --> 01:14:50,232

Their careers are made by them.

:

01:14:50,232 --> 01:14:51,192

They appreciate them.

:

01:14:51,642 --> 01:14:54,942

I kind of made the parallel to

like Judd Apatow, Judd Judd's, kind

:

01:14:55,002 --> 01:14:55,422

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:55,832 --> 01:14:58,892

Russell Guest 2: He built these

people's careers up and he comes back

:

01:14:58,892 --> 01:15:02,792

to them again and again and appreciates

them and cares about their success.

:

01:15:02,792 --> 01:15:06,602

And there's something really special

about how they as a group did that,

:

01:15:06,602 --> 01:15:10,172

and John did that for his group too,

whether it be Anthony, Michael Hall,

:

01:15:10,172 --> 01:15:12,602

Molly Ringwald, or you know, just all

:

01:15:12,642 --> 01:15:13,062

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:15:14,472 --> 01:15:14,892

Mm-hmm.

:

01:15:15,097 --> 01:15:18,107

Yeah, those two in particular

were his muses and I think that

:

01:15:18,107 --> 01:15:20,237

there was a falling out after.

:

01:15:20,297 --> 01:15:21,467

So what about you, Chad?

:

01:15:21,467 --> 01:15:25,357

Was there anything that you took away in

particular from the reunion interview?

:

01:15:26,007 --> 01:15:28,562

Chad: I felt a little bad

because the interviewer starts

:

01:15:28,562 --> 01:15:29,882

off on kind of a bad note

:

01:15:30,157 --> 01:15:30,907

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:15:31,142 --> 01:15:32,392

Chad: Hall responds.

:

01:15:32,422 --> 01:15:36,592

He has this visceral response 'cause

she just frames it as this is creepy.

:

01:15:36,862 --> 01:15:39,532

And explain yourselves and.

:

01:15:40,302 --> 01:15:43,812

talks about it and he talks about

the environment and yeah, how you

:

01:15:43,812 --> 01:15:48,732

probably can't do it now, but that

there was no like creepy feeling

:

01:15:48,732 --> 01:15:50,832

on the set at a different time.

:

01:15:51,212 --> 01:15:54,782

He does talk about the shower

scene and he, he just talks about

:

01:15:55,022 --> 01:15:56,432

how they couldn't stop giggling.

:

01:15:56,462 --> 01:16:00,422

Like they were just laughing and

having fun and Kelly Le Rock's yeah,

:

01:16:00,422 --> 01:16:03,002

I was there in pasties and it was

awkward 'cause we couldn't get them

:

01:16:03,002 --> 01:16:08,882

to stop until put on aside and was

like, Hey, we gotta, we gotta move on.

:

01:16:09,152 --> 01:16:13,712

But mentioned it earlier and just

everyone seemed to have fond memories.

:

01:16:13,712 --> 01:16:16,142

There wasn't anyone

complaining about hellish days.

:

01:16:16,562 --> 01:16:18,332

There wasn't anyone

complaining about getting.

:

01:16:19,727 --> 01:16:21,317

Screamed at or berated.

:

01:16:21,467 --> 01:16:24,287

The closest thing to it

was Robert Downey Jr.

:

01:16:24,527 --> 01:16:25,687

And max,

:

01:16:26,137 --> 01:16:26,707

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:16:26,827 --> 01:16:31,127

Chad: of them famously used

the bathroom in a trailer.

:

01:16:31,277 --> 01:16:36,287

And so John Hughes pulled the

cast over and go, goes one by one

:

01:16:36,287 --> 01:16:37,967

and says, was it you, was it you?

:

01:16:37,967 --> 01:16:38,927

And Robert Downey Jr.

:

01:16:38,927 --> 01:16:40,187

Says, I wish it was me.

:

01:16:40,607 --> 01:16:44,957

And so, they, they got a talking

to, but even Robert Downey Jr.

:

01:16:44,957 --> 01:16:47,447

After that incident

said, Hey, we got along.

:

01:16:47,717 --> 01:16:49,757

We, we had a good relationship.

:

01:16:49,787 --> 01:16:54,837

So, there was, there was a sense

of professionalism and fun,

:

01:16:55,167 --> 01:16:55,587

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:16:56,127 --> 01:17:00,897

Chad: all the stories, Kelly, Kelly Lerock

just seemed to have a great time and

:

01:17:00,897 --> 01:17:02,877

just have a fondness for the two boys.

:

01:17:03,022 --> 01:17:03,462

Russell Guest 2: really well by the

:

01:17:03,762 --> 01:17:05,922

Katie: She does well.

:

01:17:05,922 --> 01:17:10,482

Some she's gone through, she

looked really good in that.

:

01:17:10,482 --> 01:17:11,502

That was:

:

01:17:11,502 --> 01:17:13,852

And but she's had a fair

amount of work done.

:

01:17:13,852 --> 01:17:14,902

I, I can tell.

:

01:17:15,002 --> 01:17:18,962

And you can definitely, 'cause she

had the most gorgeous lips naturally.

:

01:17:18,992 --> 01:17:19,467

And now she's.

:

01:17:20,372 --> 01:17:25,232

She has had some nip tucking, but

also, I can't stand it when women

:

01:17:25,232 --> 01:17:28,322

put those fillers in their lips

'cause it's such a fake look.

:

01:17:28,802 --> 01:17:30,572

But she does, she looks like I hate to

:

01:17:30,662 --> 01:17:30,952

Chad: Boom.

:

01:17:31,052 --> 01:17:32,012

Katie: 'cause I did whatever.

:

01:17:32,072 --> 01:17:33,392

She does look lovely.

:

01:17:33,507 --> 01:17:33,717

Russell Guest 2: in it.

:

01:17:33,717 --> 01:17:34,557

So that doesn't,

:

01:17:35,132 --> 01:17:35,612

Katie: Yes.

:

01:17:35,612 --> 01:17:37,412

She's like, I don't look

too bad for her grandma.

:

01:17:37,832 --> 01:17:38,322

Chad: Correct.

:

01:17:38,522 --> 01:17:43,512

Katie: did get a little heavy at one point

because there was a show like Celebrity

:

01:17:43,512 --> 01:17:45,132

Big Loser or something like that.

:

01:17:45,132 --> 01:17:46,842

There was like a show that she was on.

:

01:17:46,987 --> 01:17:47,257

Russell Guest 2: know that.

:

01:17:47,622 --> 01:17:50,142

Katie: She got, you know, as

happens, but I thought she

:

01:17:50,142 --> 01:17:51,492

looked really lovely in that too.

:

01:17:51,832 --> 01:17:54,802

I think the one thing that I thought

was really, well there were a lot

:

01:17:54,802 --> 01:17:59,712

of great stories but I think Island

shared that the, there was a scene

:

01:18:00,072 --> 01:18:01,512

when they were in the blue kitchen.

:

01:18:02,337 --> 01:18:05,937

And it wasn't a particularly funny, like

they were just trying to do the scene and

:

01:18:05,937 --> 01:18:10,707

John Hughes reaches over and grabs one of

the blue potato chips, 'cause everything

:

01:18:10,707 --> 01:18:12,147

in the kitchen was blue and ate it

:

01:18:12,557 --> 01:18:15,707

and they were like, John, that's

like a spray painted chip.

:

01:18:15,707 --> 01:18:17,416

And he's like, anything for a laugh.

:

01:18:17,837 --> 01:18:21,257

Pointing to the fact that John

Hughes was you know, he wanted

:

01:18:21,257 --> 01:18:22,457

to find humor in everything.

:

01:18:22,457 --> 01:18:25,337

Mm-hmm.

:

01:18:25,357 --> 01:18:28,352

Russell Guest 2: think Michael

Halls, I think, n wonderfully.

:

01:18:28,402 --> 01:18:30,562

I think somebody at one point

called him a comedic genius.

:

01:18:30,562 --> 01:18:31,942

He goes, I'm an out of work actor.

:

01:18:32,932 --> 01:18:33,322

So,

:

01:18:33,697 --> 01:18:33,987

Chad: Yeah.

:

01:18:34,702 --> 01:18:35,737

Russell Guest 2: know, I think he know,

:

01:18:35,862 --> 01:18:36,072

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:18:36,072 --> 01:18:39,822

He jokes about like a, like an awkward

phase on film, but he is like, Hey, the

:

01:18:39,822 --> 01:18:41,472

checks are good or the checks keep coming.

:

01:18:41,472 --> 01:18:42,492

Or something like,

:

01:18:42,747 --> 01:18:43,107

Chad: Yeah,

:

01:18:43,332 --> 01:18:43,722

Katie: yeah.

:

01:18:43,852 --> 01:18:44,092

Russell Guest 2: he,

:

01:18:44,147 --> 01:18:44,567

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:18:44,692 --> 01:18:47,642

Russell Guest 2: he knows that he steered

his career in a way or didn't make

:

01:18:47,642 --> 01:18:50,672

that from young actor to adult actor.

:

01:18:50,722 --> 01:18:51,652

So many haven't.

:

01:18:52,041 --> 01:18:55,652

You know, I think he has a

good, healthy attitude about it.

:

01:18:55,712 --> 01:18:56,791

He can laugh at himself.

:

01:18:56,791 --> 01:18:57,902

He seems like he's,

:

01:18:58,072 --> 01:18:58,492

Katie: Yep.

:

01:18:58,652 --> 01:18:59,672

Russell Guest 2: not famous anymore.

:

01:18:59,702 --> 01:19:01,742

He, you could walk down the

street and not know it's him,

:

01:19:02,222 --> 01:19:04,622

but he seems healthy about it.

:

01:19:04,622 --> 01:19:07,552

Like he doesn't seem bitter or stuck

in the past or anything like that.

:

01:19:07,582 --> 01:19:07,822

He can

:

01:19:07,957 --> 01:19:08,377

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:19:08,572 --> 01:19:10,102

Russell Guest 2: So he's

still, he is still funny.

:

01:19:10,799 --> 01:19:11,398

Katie: He is.

:

01:19:11,459 --> 01:19:11,969

Yeah.

:

01:19:12,369 --> 01:19:17,969

I, I thought that there's both praise,

quote unquote, and a fair amount of

:

01:19:17,969 --> 01:19:20,669

criticism from critics for this movie.

:

01:19:20,669 --> 01:19:22,909

I don't know if you caught

any of the response.

:

01:19:23,179 --> 01:19:24,859

Chad: between Cisco and Ebert

:

01:19:24,859 --> 01:19:25,369

Katie: Yes.

:

01:19:26,179 --> 01:19:27,699

Chad: was it was it Ebert that,

:

01:19:27,739 --> 01:19:28,129

Russell Guest 2: liked it.

:

01:19:28,309 --> 01:19:28,669

Cisco didn't.

:

01:19:31,179 --> 01:19:31,539

Chad: yeah.

:

01:19:31,629 --> 01:19:35,469

Katie: Roger, Roger Eber gave it

three outta four stars called Lerock.

:

01:19:35,469 --> 01:19:37,089

Wonderful in her role.

:

01:19:37,119 --> 01:19:40,809

Thought that as a result the film

was funnier and a little deeper

:

01:19:41,139 --> 01:19:45,729

than the predictable story it

might have been without Kelly Gene.

:

01:19:45,729 --> 01:19:50,979

Cisco gave it a one and a half

stars out of four and wrote what

:

01:19:50,979 --> 01:19:52,989

a disappointment weird science is.

:

01:19:52,989 --> 01:19:57,669

A wonderful writer director has taken

a cute idea about two teenage Dr.

:

01:19:57,669 --> 01:20:00,759

Frankenstein, creating a perfect

woman by computer and turned it

:

01:20:00,759 --> 01:20:05,049

into a vulgar, mindless, special

effects cluttered wasteland.

:

01:20:05,769 --> 01:20:09,034

I vastly disagree.

:

01:20:09,044 --> 01:20:09,939

Genes the skull?

:

01:20:10,398 --> 01:20:10,689

Chad: Yeah.

:

01:20:10,689 --> 01:20:12,789

Katie: think, I don't

think it was vulgar at all.

:

01:20:13,164 --> 01:20:16,914

Chad: Well, Ebert even pulled him aside at

one point and basically said, chill out.

:

01:20:17,094 --> 01:20:17,304

Like

:

01:20:17,919 --> 01:20:18,818

Katie: Oh, really?

:

01:20:19,193 --> 01:20:19,404

Chad: Yeah.

:

01:20:19,509 --> 01:20:20,109

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:20:20,273 --> 01:20:24,023

Chad: you are sounding so

stuffy right now, and so

:

01:20:24,023 --> 01:20:24,443

Katie: Sheila.

:

01:20:24,624 --> 01:20:25,193

Chad: that was a good take.

:

01:20:25,809 --> 01:20:31,479

Katie: Sheila Benson of the LA Times

described again, lerock as triumphant and

:

01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,109

the film's greatest asset, but thought

that the film's appeal was limited to

:

01:20:35,109 --> 01:20:41,469

audience of 15-year-old boys and maybe the

16 year olds if they aren't yet too fussy.

:

01:20:42,474 --> 01:20:44,724

Chad: Yeah, that's,

that's a weird comment.

:

01:20:44,724 --> 01:20:51,023

Kelly, Kelly, Le Barack is beautiful in

any age demographic, and obviously you

:

01:20:51,023 --> 01:20:52,523

said it's one of your favorite movies.

:

01:20:52,659 --> 01:20:54,279

Katie: I, yeah, I, that's why I disagree.

:

01:20:54,279 --> 01:20:57,639

I mean, I'm not a 15-year-old boy,

and I've always loved this movie.

:

01:20:57,909 --> 01:21:02,529

Rita Kemp of the Washington Post wrote

unbelievably, John Hughes, the maker

:

01:21:02,529 --> 01:21:05,979

of 16 candles in the Breakfast Club,

writes and directs this snickering

:

01:21:06,039 --> 01:21:12,148

sorted special effects fantasy with

Kelly Lerock in a demeaning role as

:

01:21:12,148 --> 01:21:14,429

love slave to a pair of 15 year olds.

:

01:21:14,999 --> 01:21:17,639

I think they miss the point of the movie.

:

01:21:18,029 --> 01:21:18,599

I don't know.

:

01:21:18,614 --> 01:21:23,699

I am, I, I guess it's hard for me to

be unbiased because I do have such.

:

01:21:24,869 --> 01:21:29,909

I really, really, really, and maybe it's

nostalgia, but I think this movie is

:

01:21:30,599 --> 01:21:35,674

really well done and good in all of the

ways that you want a movie like this to be

:

01:21:36,644 --> 01:21:38,864

Chad: I can see where they'd

missed that train though.

:

01:21:39,284 --> 01:21:43,874

It's, it's easy to miss and it's

easy to go down that lane, and part

:

01:21:43,874 --> 01:21:47,773

of me was thinking, oh no, we're

doing this and I haven't seen it in

:

01:21:48,044 --> 01:21:48,334

Katie: okay.

:

01:21:48,584 --> 01:21:54,374

Chad: Is this going to be the territory

it lands on of just pure male fantasy?

:

01:21:54,374 --> 01:21:59,594

And obviously that's part of the, the

point of this movie, but like most things

:

01:21:59,594 --> 01:22:04,004

John Hughes does, there's a greater

point and it's restoring the confidence.

:

01:22:04,424 --> 01:22:06,134

And I love that.

:

01:22:06,134 --> 01:22:10,994

Most of the reviews, even the negative

ones, are saying Kelly Le Brock is great.

:

01:22:11,294 --> 01:22:12,193

Like she is.

:

01:22:12,614 --> 01:22:15,074

Russell said Anthony,

Michael Halls Gary is the.

:

01:22:15,824 --> 01:22:16,844

linchpin in this movie.

:

01:22:16,844 --> 01:22:17,954

She's my MVP.

:

01:22:18,074 --> 01:22:20,414

I think it falls apart without her

:

01:22:20,914 --> 01:22:24,209

Katie: I agree, Chad, she

got ul teary eyed at the end.

:

01:22:24,259 --> 01:22:24,769

I don't know.

:

01:22:24,773 --> 01:22:28,549

I, I really thought she was wonderful

in this, and it's kind of sad.

:

01:22:28,549 --> 01:22:32,269

I think her marrying what's his

face kind of ruined her career.

:

01:22:32,289 --> 01:22:32,709

Chad: Steven

:

01:22:32,809 --> 01:22:33,139

Katie: know.

:

01:22:33,349 --> 01:22:33,909

Chad: I can see that.

:

01:22:33,939 --> 01:22:34,229

Yeah.

:

01:22:34,279 --> 01:22:34,489

Katie: Ugh.

:

01:22:34,939 --> 01:22:35,509

Yeah.

:

01:22:35,864 --> 01:22:36,134

Russell Guest 2: isn't

:

01:22:36,289 --> 01:22:38,974

Katie: Chad, you said that

you watched the, oh, go ahead.

:

01:22:39,044 --> 01:22:39,193

Russell Guest 2: age either.

:

01:22:39,644 --> 01:22:45,484

So you know, your time and your time

in the spotlight is often short when.

:

01:22:46,459 --> 01:22:46,639

You're

:

01:22:46,764 --> 01:22:46,884

Katie: V

:

01:22:46,939 --> 01:22:47,659

Russell Guest 2: for being a

:

01:22:47,709 --> 01:22:48,639

Katie: Very good point.

:

01:22:49,339 --> 01:22:50,989

Russell Guest 2: so Yeah,

:

01:22:51,849 --> 01:22:51,969

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:22:51,969 --> 01:22:53,559

She was only 24.

:

01:22:53,979 --> 01:22:54,269

Chad: Yeah.

:

01:22:54,939 --> 01:22:56,019

Katie: The, the actress.

:

01:22:56,049 --> 01:22:56,469

Yeah.

:

01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:58,059

So the, the,

:

01:22:58,068 --> 01:22:58,459

Russell Guest 2: bet.

:

01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,989

Katie: there was a TV series

that Chad saw based on this film.

:

01:23:02,409 --> 01:23:05,079

It ran for 88 episodes.

:

01:23:05,379 --> 01:23:07,809

I did not realize from 94 to 98,

:

01:23:08,379 --> 01:23:11,109

Chad: It did, it, it's a little different.

:

01:23:11,318 --> 01:23:16,554

It was almost like an I dream of

genie style where I can't remember the

:

01:23:16,554 --> 01:23:19,254

girl's name, but she granted wishes,

:

01:23:19,294 --> 01:23:19,504

Russell Guest 2: Hmm.

:

01:23:19,734 --> 01:23:20,814

Katie: Vanessa Angel.

:

01:23:21,264 --> 01:23:21,504

Chad: Yeah.

:

01:23:21,504 --> 01:23:24,474

She, she granted fantasies

and things like that, but they

:

01:23:24,474 --> 01:23:26,424

would have convenient durations.

:

01:23:26,424 --> 01:23:31,404

They would wear off, and so her

powers like would grow or shrink,

:

01:23:31,404 --> 01:23:33,114

depending on whatever the episode was.

:

01:23:33,114 --> 01:23:36,744

But it was usually almost

like a monkey's paw type wish

:

01:23:37,179 --> 01:23:37,469

Katie: okay.

:

01:23:37,794 --> 01:23:40,494

Chad: the boys would wish for

something, she'd give it to them

:

01:23:40,494 --> 01:23:43,614

and you know, hi, jinx ensue, but.

:

01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:44,699

Katie: Hmm.

:

01:23:45,049 --> 01:23:45,339

Okay.

:

01:23:45,684 --> 01:23:48,824

Chad: that was my first I guess,

encounter with weird science.

:

01:23:48,824 --> 01:23:52,514

And so I had that theme song though,

and go Bono theme song, stuck in

:

01:23:52,514 --> 01:23:54,974

my head and then got to this one.

:

01:23:55,004 --> 01:23:56,654

It's like, oh, it was based off of

:

01:23:57,619 --> 01:23:58,334

Katie: This movie,

:

01:23:58,514 --> 01:23:58,844

Chad: Yeah.

:

01:23:59,144 --> 01:24:02,594

Katie: that's an interesting, yeah,

that's an interesting, I, I kind of

:

01:24:02,594 --> 01:24:05,744

don't wanna watch the TV series, but

it's interesting that you saw that first.

:

01:24:05,804 --> 01:24:06,464

Chad: It's cute.

:

01:24:06,704 --> 01:24:07,064

It's,

:

01:24:07,273 --> 01:24:07,814

Katie: Okay.

:

01:24:08,074 --> 01:24:11,193

Russell Guest 2: just to keep the when

you fall in love with certain characters

:

01:24:11,193 --> 01:24:14,734

and stuff like that, the TV to movie

transition often doesn't work for me.

:

01:24:15,124 --> 01:24:17,904

You know, there's a Fugitive TV show

and apparently it was really successful.

:

01:24:17,904 --> 01:24:20,454

I just don't wanna go back and see it

'cause Harrison Ford's my fugitive.

:

01:24:20,664 --> 01:24:22,434

It's just like when you find these

:

01:24:22,529 --> 01:24:22,818

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:24:22,854 --> 01:24:25,344

Russell Guest 2: and stuff

like that, I don't really want

:

01:24:25,494 --> 01:24:26,634

that other version so much.

:

01:24:26,764 --> 01:24:29,854

There's an odd couple TV show

I, I was told it was good.

:

01:24:30,094 --> 01:24:33,273

I just never wanted to go back and do it

again because I really like Walter Math,

:

01:24:33,273 --> 01:24:35,254

Allen Jack Lemon, and no matter how good

:

01:24:35,454 --> 01:24:35,904

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:24:35,974 --> 01:24:37,443

Russell Guest 2: doing it,

those are not the characters

:

01:24:37,443 --> 01:24:38,644

that you have watched do it.

:

01:24:39,334 --> 01:24:44,734

Chad: Count Counterpoint, Buffy the

Vampire Slayer, like the, the TV series

:

01:24:44,734 --> 01:24:46,264

is infinitely better than the movie.

:

01:24:47,204 --> 01:24:48,439

Katie: I have heard that, Chad.

:

01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:53,359

I have not seen Buffy the TV series,

but I gotta tell you, I loved

:

01:24:53,369 --> 01:24:53,609

Russell Guest 2: gonna say

:

01:24:53,898 --> 01:24:55,219

Katie: the Christie Swanson movie.

:

01:24:55,624 --> 01:24:55,954

Chad: it's

:

01:24:56,148 --> 01:24:56,359

Katie: it.

:

01:24:56,584 --> 01:24:57,574

Chad: It is very fun.

:

01:24:57,574 --> 01:24:58,324

But Sarah

:

01:24:58,398 --> 01:24:58,849

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:24:59,074 --> 01:25:00,304

Chad: is just, she's my Buffy.

:

01:25:00,919 --> 01:25:01,519

Katie: Okay.

:

01:25:01,519 --> 01:25:05,089

I think that, Hey, so you know, we

were talking about the very eighties

:

01:25:05,089 --> 01:25:09,379

fashion, the jacket that Kelly

Lerock wore in that mall scene.

:

01:25:09,904 --> 01:25:15,364

You know, she has the tube top

on with the long denim skirt.

:

01:25:15,943 --> 01:25:23,804

It was sold to Dina Collection, a pawn

shop in Beverly Hills for $25,000.

:

01:25:23,959 --> 01:25:25,199

Russell Guest 2: it's the best $25,000

:

01:25:25,234 --> 01:25:25,794

Chad: not too bad.

:

01:25:25,879 --> 01:25:26,159

Russell Guest 2: spent.

:

01:25:27,814 --> 01:25:27,934

Chad: I

:

01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:28,529

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:25:31,034 --> 01:25:31,454

Chad: guilty.

:

01:25:32,269 --> 01:25:36,209

Katie: bill Paxton ad-libbed a line

that he got from his dad when he says,

:

01:25:36,209 --> 01:25:39,749

how about a nice greasy pork sandwich?

:

01:25:39,749 --> 01:25:41,579

Served in a dirty ash tray.

:

01:25:42,599 --> 01:25:45,329

That was something that his dad

used to say to him when he was

:

01:25:45,329 --> 01:25:47,129

hungover from a night of drinking.

:

01:25:47,339 --> 01:25:48,869

I thought that was hilarious.

:

01:25:49,424 --> 01:25:50,534

Chad: thing to say to someone.

:

01:25:50,999 --> 01:25:52,889

Katie: We talked about

Saturday Night Live.

:

01:25:53,264 --> 01:25:58,148

Anthony Michael Hall did not stay for

an entire season and neither did fellow

:

01:25:58,148 --> 01:26:00,818

Weird Science CoStar, Robert Downey Jr.

:

01:26:00,879 --> 01:26:03,669

They were on the same season and

neither of 'em lasted the whole season.

:

01:26:03,829 --> 01:26:08,014

Russell Guest 2: get a lot of clips

from the eighties on that cast, but.

:

01:26:08,404 --> 01:26:12,664

I wanna say it's hard to, I can,

they didn't get long enough to,

:

01:26:12,964 --> 01:26:14,734

to find their feet on the show.

:

01:26:14,943 --> 01:26:19,144

They, they seem awkward in the

things that I have seen from them on

:

01:26:19,144 --> 01:26:23,494

there, so maybe it would've worked

out had they'd stayed longer, but it

:

01:26:23,494 --> 01:26:25,144

wasn't a natural fit, I don't think.

:

01:26:25,144 --> 01:26:25,894

It was a weird time

:

01:26:25,898 --> 01:26:26,439

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:26:26,824 --> 01:26:27,693

Russell Guest 2: Lauren Michaels,

:

01:26:27,999 --> 01:26:30,068

Katie: It was, yeah, I was,

:

01:26:30,273 --> 01:26:30,514

Russell Guest 2: yet.

:

01:26:31,209 --> 01:26:34,119

Katie: Oh, there was a cut scene

and I'm really glad they cut

:

01:26:34,119 --> 01:26:34,989

it 'cause I don't like this.

:

01:26:34,989 --> 01:26:36,580

I don't know if you guys heard this, but.

:

01:26:37,719 --> 01:26:41,379

In the final cut of the film,

max and Ian are last seen fleeing

:

01:26:41,379 --> 01:26:43,089

the party when the bikers invade.

:

01:26:43,568 --> 01:26:48,179

A follow-up scene was shot in which

multicolored clouds engulf them and

:

01:26:48,179 --> 01:26:50,669

they transform into a pig and a donkey.

:

01:26:50,909 --> 01:26:54,029

They then bend over to see

their reflections in hubcaps

:

01:26:54,089 --> 01:26:57,329

of a car and their tails ripped

through the seats of their pants

:

01:26:58,273 --> 01:26:58,664

Chad: That is

:

01:26:59,009 --> 01:26:59,398

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:27:00,134 --> 01:27:01,664

Chad: stuff like yeah.

:

01:27:04,259 --> 01:27:07,139

Katie: Glad glad they, they removed that.

:

01:27:07,259 --> 01:27:10,439

Yeah, trying to thank you guys.

:

01:27:10,889 --> 01:27:15,579

I think this actually, does

and it doesn't hold up.

:

01:27:15,579 --> 01:27:19,449

I, I'm actually kind of in the

camp that it holds up in the way

:

01:27:19,449 --> 01:27:21,489

that we should view this:

:

01:27:22,009 --> 01:27:27,439

But I do find it a super fascinating

time capsule of:

:

01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,079

parts bonkers and brilliant.

:

01:27:30,514 --> 01:27:34,564

You guys, Russell, Chad, I always have

such fun podcasting with you guys and

:

01:27:34,894 --> 01:27:37,384

talking movies, especially retro movies.

:

01:27:37,484 --> 01:27:40,494

Do you have any final

thoughts about this movie?

:

01:27:40,494 --> 01:27:44,334

And then tell us maybe what we

can look forward to on your show

:

01:27:44,334 --> 01:27:45,924

or tell us where we can find you.

:

01:27:46,054 --> 01:27:46,669

Russell Guest 2: Ted, you wanna go first?

:

01:27:47,034 --> 01:27:47,559

Chad: I think it'd be.

:

01:27:48,714 --> 01:27:52,074

I think I would be fascinated

just for somebody that didn't

:

01:27:52,074 --> 01:27:57,264

grow up in the eighties, like

you show a Gen Z person whatever.

:

01:27:57,264 --> 01:28:02,184

The generation after them, is it, are

we back to Alpha or whatever it is, show

:

01:28:02,184 --> 01:28:04,284

them this movie and see what it does.

:

01:28:04,384 --> 01:28:10,624

Does the comedy still hold up or we

just to forgive some of the things

:

01:28:10,654 --> 01:28:15,394

'cause we're, we're starting to

see generative AI doing some of the

:

01:28:15,394 --> 01:28:19,324

things that this movie has insinuated

:

01:28:19,568 --> 01:28:19,689

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:28:20,344 --> 01:28:23,464

Chad: it's creating

interesting legal areas.

:

01:28:23,494 --> 01:28:27,484

And with the rise of chat GPT,

I think it's kind of circling

:

01:28:27,484 --> 01:28:30,514

around to ethics and relevance.

:

01:28:30,514 --> 01:28:34,084

And I'd be fascinated to see somebody

that hasn't lived through the

:

01:28:34,084 --> 01:28:39,244

eighties just comment on this and

say, Hey, we watch weird science.

:

01:28:39,994 --> 01:28:41,104

It held up for me.

:

01:28:41,104 --> 01:28:42,934

I can see the similarities.

:

01:28:42,934 --> 01:28:45,664

Or they just say, you know, this

is sexist garbage and we're,

:

01:28:45,904 --> 01:28:47,224

we're done with a male fantasy.

:

01:28:47,224 --> 01:28:48,484

We don't want this at all.

:

01:28:48,874 --> 01:28:51,334

I, I hope it's not the latter.

:

01:28:51,544 --> 01:28:57,934

I, I think especially for Kelly Littlerock

being able to teach these boys respect

:

01:28:57,934 --> 01:29:03,254

for themselves and also how to respect

the two girls they're trying to impress,

:

01:29:03,584 --> 01:29:06,734

like they're, they're never going down

that road of the bullying road that

:

01:29:06,734 --> 01:29:09,234

Robert Downey and max are going through.

:

01:29:09,714 --> 01:29:12,114

So I, I think it holds up.

:

01:29:12,114 --> 01:29:13,314

I, I understand.

:

01:29:13,704 --> 01:29:17,594

I think I might be in the both lanes

with you, Katie, of I could see

:

01:29:17,594 --> 01:29:23,443

where somebody might not, but I hope

somebody would still enjoy this movie,

:

01:29:23,443 --> 01:29:27,523

even if they say, this is on the

lesser end of John Hughes catalog.

:

01:29:27,523 --> 01:29:32,454

It's not as great as the breakfast clubs

and it's not as great as 16 candles

:

01:29:32,454 --> 01:29:34,019

or, or anything else that he's done.

:

01:29:35,079 --> 01:29:36,969

Russell Guest 2: So you're saying

it's no baby's day out, Chad.

:

01:29:38,604 --> 01:29:42,084

Chad: We're going to get

that on the podcast one day.

:

01:29:42,084 --> 01:29:46,394

That is my, my grandfather took me to

that movie when I was very, very young.

:

01:29:46,394 --> 01:29:48,794

I, I had no concept of John Hughes

:

01:29:49,239 --> 01:29:52,244

Katie: Well, maybe you should come back

and cover it with me, Chad, because

:

01:29:52,244 --> 01:29:53,864

we're covering it on Retro Made.

:

01:29:54,134 --> 01:29:54,614

It's John Hughes movie.

:

01:29:55,334 --> 01:29:58,724

Chad: my, my grandfather

clung to the line.

:

01:29:58,724 --> 01:30:03,684

He was like, you thumb sucking milk

drinking puker, or something like that.

:

01:30:03,954 --> 01:30:05,454

And he would just quote it over and over.

:

01:30:05,454 --> 01:30:06,954

He was just tickled to death with that.

:

01:30:06,954 --> 01:30:10,734

So that's a very fond memory

for me of a terrible movie.

:

01:30:11,394 --> 01:30:16,294

But, but yeah, I would love to cover

Baby Us and Dustin, who's another

:

01:30:16,294 --> 01:30:20,674

one of our hosts, Dustin, has often

joked of getting Baby's Day out

:

01:30:20,674 --> 01:30:22,654

on the, if Russell won't allow it,

:

01:30:23,804 --> 01:30:24,094

Katie: Okay.

:

01:30:24,454 --> 01:30:26,464

Chad: we will happily

talk about it with you.

:

01:30:26,818 --> 01:30:30,029

Russell Guest 2: Well, I think

this movie is one of those

:

01:30:30,029 --> 01:30:31,139

things where if you're gonna.

:

01:30:31,979 --> 01:30:35,609

Poke holes at it and just say the male

fantasy is not something we want anymore.

:

01:30:35,639 --> 01:30:37,799

There are gonna be people who

can't get around it and just

:

01:30:37,799 --> 01:30:39,029

say, it is, sex is garbage.

:

01:30:39,029 --> 01:30:43,318

But I think that would be shortsighted

because there, I think it does

:

01:30:43,318 --> 01:30:45,929

hold up pretty well because of

everything we've talked about.

:

01:30:46,679 --> 01:30:49,139

growth in the characters,

the performances are funny.

:

01:30:49,589 --> 01:30:52,523

There's things that, whether it's

taking underage kids out, drinking

:

01:30:52,679 --> 01:30:56,459

and then driving while drunk

that you wouldn't do to today.

:

01:30:56,729 --> 01:31:00,869

Maybe you know some of the humor

of Anthony Michael Hall's diction.

:

01:31:01,229 --> 01:31:02,909

Is funny in his performance.

:

01:31:03,148 --> 01:31:06,359

Now people would say that that's

offensive and things like that, so

:

01:31:06,539 --> 01:31:09,629

you're gonna have to shift this a few

degrees if you were ever to remake this.

:

01:31:09,779 --> 01:31:13,199

Having said that, I

still think it is funny.

:

01:31:13,289 --> 01:31:16,619

I think if you showed it to people, I

think a lot of the times people will

:

01:31:16,619 --> 01:31:20,369

watch something now that you couldn't

quote unquote, you could never make

:

01:31:20,369 --> 01:31:24,659

this today, and everybody sits there and

still has a really fun time watching it.

:

01:31:25,979 --> 01:31:31,079

so I think that's what I would say is

culturally, what does that mean for us?

:

01:31:31,139 --> 01:31:34,229

We've, when we say we won't make

something that we're, we will sit

:

01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:37,469

there and watch it was made 20 years

ago and then laugh at it and enjoy it.

:

01:31:37,709 --> 01:31:40,318

So I think comedy is at an

interesting point in time too.

:

01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:45,179

So this is a long way of saying, I

think for some it might not hold up,

:

01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,769

but in terms of it is still really good

and I'm closer to Ebert on this one.

:

01:31:49,799 --> 01:31:51,359

Ebert probably has a big soft spot.

:

01:31:51,749 --> 01:31:55,199

In his heart because it's a

Chicago Hughes is a Chicago dude.

:

01:31:55,259 --> 01:31:56,789

He goes to bat for Chicago.

:

01:31:56,818 --> 01:31:59,398

Ebert's a Chicago dude,

that's your local boy.

:

01:31:59,639 --> 01:32:01,439

The, this isn't an LA guy.

:

01:32:01,499 --> 01:32:06,539

And so is 100% probably just being

biased and supporting his, you

:

01:32:06,539 --> 01:32:08,489

know, windy city, you know, creator.

:

01:32:08,729 --> 01:32:09,389

And that's okay.

:

01:32:10,634 --> 01:32:13,214

Because I also like Chicago

and I like John Hughes, and I'm

:

01:32:13,214 --> 01:32:15,704

willing to root for the body of

work and this is included in it.

:

01:32:15,914 --> 01:32:18,074

So yeah, I think long.

:

01:32:18,074 --> 01:32:20,714

I think weird science holds up

refreshingly Well, I was scared to come

:

01:32:20,714 --> 01:32:24,734

back to it because I was sitting there

going like, I'm 40, you know, when you're

:

01:32:24,734 --> 01:32:26,474

a teenager, this is really exciting.

:

01:32:26,904 --> 01:32:30,084

You know, fast cars driving at the

mall, getting girls and all this

:

01:32:30,084 --> 01:32:32,064

stuff, and were remarkably simple.

:

01:32:32,154 --> 01:32:32,904

But you know what?

:

01:32:33,174 --> 01:32:35,394

I think it did hold up

as a 40-year-old here

:

01:32:35,443 --> 01:32:36,009

Katie: i'm glad to hear that.

:

01:32:36,809 --> 01:32:37,769

Yeah, both.

:

01:32:37,859 --> 01:32:43,539

Very well said you guys and retro made

listeners I think you should go check

:

01:32:43,539 --> 01:32:47,829

out Russell and Chad on the retro movie

round table, wherever podcasts are found.

:

01:32:47,829 --> 01:32:48,309

Right.

:

01:32:49,044 --> 01:32:49,764

Chad: Absolutely.

:

01:32:49,764 --> 01:32:49,914

Yeah.

:

01:32:49,914 --> 01:32:55,068

You can connect with us on Facebook

Spotify, iTunes, just wherever

:

01:32:55,068 --> 01:32:56,464

you can download your podcast.

:

01:32:56,464 --> 01:33:01,023

We like fan interactions, so we've had

some good back and forth on Facebook.

:

01:33:01,273 --> 01:33:05,193

Message us, email us at retro

Movie roundtable@yahoo.com.

:

01:33:05,384 --> 01:33:08,534

We love movies, we love guests,

we love talking about movies.

:

01:33:08,594 --> 01:33:12,914

So, let us know if there's a movie we

haven't covered out of the 300 some.

:

01:33:13,454 --> 01:33:15,464

And if you wanna talk about it, great.

:

01:33:15,764 --> 01:33:16,574

We'd love to meet you.

:

01:33:18,359 --> 01:33:19,139

Katie: Awesome.

:

01:33:19,229 --> 01:33:19,349

And.

:

01:33:20,279 --> 01:33:25,379

I'll be joining them soon so you better,

you know, get the fuel for, for their

:

01:33:25,379 --> 01:33:28,789

style of podcast before you go listen

to mine if you have thoughts about this

:

01:33:28,789 --> 01:33:33,769

episode, if you have thoughts about

any other episodes, any upcoming John

:

01:33:33,769 --> 01:33:38,059

Hughes movies that we'll be covering

questions or, , maybe you have your own

:

01:33:38,059 --> 01:33:41,539

lightning powered experiments to share

like weird science, drop me a line.

:

01:33:41,599 --> 01:33:46,729

Otherwise, I will see you next time,

hopefully with fewer bras on heads.

:

01:33:46,759 --> 01:33:50,269

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