Used Cars | S1E39

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Hello, Hello,

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I'm Katie

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and welcome to Retro Made,

UR Pop Culture Rewind.

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Today, we're going to go back

all the way to July of: 1980

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I wasn't even born yet for the

satirical black comedy Used

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Cars.

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And as always, we'll touch on all

the other happenings of the time.

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I am very excited to have new guests

to the show to help me fill out

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my final episodes of this season.

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Evan Moody and Andrew, did I

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get that?

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Right?

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Awesome.

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Well, thank you guys for joining

me and tell us a little bit about

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you and the shows that you do.

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Ooh.

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Well, thanks again.

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Well, without further ado, let's open the

time capsule to set the stage for this.

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Popular TV, according to Nielsen ratings,

this is the 79 80 season, which is wild.

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So three's company was the

number one show and listeners.

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I just covered that in depth

in the last episode, actually.

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Alice mash Dallas flow, which I've

not seen, but is a spinoff of Alice.

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The Jeffersons, The Dukes of Hazzard,

One Day at a Time, Archie Bunker's

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Place, which this was its premiere

season, Eight is Enough, and Taxi.

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Were you guys watching those?

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Do you remember that?

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Mm hmm.

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me.

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too.

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The early 80s, a very different feel

from, you know, when we get later

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into the mid 80s, it's more saturated

with all those sitcoms from the 80s.

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And that's like my jam, but I'm like

Three's Company The Jeffersons, like

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these I've seen in syndication and Taxi

is one that I am now just discovering.

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It's on some, I don't

know, cozy TV or something.

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And I love Tony Danza.

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So I'm enjoying.

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Discovering Taxi.

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Huge.

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I love them Yeah.

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Yep.

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So there's a couple shows that ended

this season that weren't necessarily

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in the top rated shows, but I wanted

to call them out because they're fun.

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Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels.

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I remember watching

that on Cartoon Express.

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Yeah, it was a cartoon, but I loved it.

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Yeah, I loved

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that.

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The Rope.

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You haven't

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seen that one?

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Oh, it's

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good.

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It's good.

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the The Ropers.

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now,

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well, we, so we, it was.

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It was

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kind of unfortunate because

they were supposed to be able

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to come back if it didn't fare.

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Well, it was a spin off the,

you know, Helen and Stanley, if

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it didn't go beyond 1 season.

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They couldn't come back and

it went 1 and a half seasons.

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And so that's why we got Mr.

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early.

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Yeah, I, agree.

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I agree.

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Oh, well, He

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yeah,

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Also the Shogun mini series, which I've

not seen, but I've heard a lot about.

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Did you guys watch that mini series?

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I don't know.

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I am, is that like

Japanese like martial arts?

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Also Hawaii Five 0, this was

its final season, and I didn't

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realize that it started in 1968.

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Mm-Hmm.

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I don't think I have either.

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I think I conflate that with Magnum pi.

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Yeah.

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One of one show that premiered this

season that I haven't had an opportunity

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to talk about and it's one of my

favorites, is The Facts of Life.

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It

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premiered in 1980 or

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1979.

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Yeah.

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love, it

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Mm-Hmm?

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was she?

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Mm-Hmm.

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Really?

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Blair.

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Yeah.

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She rode motorcycles.

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I'd love to see that.

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Well, this first season was very

different from the later seasons.

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It had all those other girls,

including a young Molly Ringwald.

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She was their housekeeper.

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I think.

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Wasn't

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she

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Mm hmm.

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Oh,

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okay.

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I love it.

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Oh, I love crossover.

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Yeah.

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Mm

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hmm.

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Now I know you guys are wrestling guys.

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So I purposefully looked up who the

big wrestling guys were from: 1980

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You'll have to tell me if I'm wrong,

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but I, I

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asked chat.

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I know I know most of them

because I did watch wrestling

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in the 80s with my grandpa.

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He was a big wrestling guy, but,

you know, mine, I was more later

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80s, but I totally Hulk Hogan,

Ric Flair totally know those guys.

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Dusty Rhodes, I don't really know,

but I've heard of him Andre, the

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giant Harley race and Bob Backlund.

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I don't know who they are.

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And

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He wasn't big

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yet.

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Yeah.

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I was also reading so I know who

Roddy Piper is and he was according

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to chat rising star at the time.

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He wasn't big yet, but he was on his way.

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And then I, know who Terry Funk is.

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More from movies later, like, over the

top, but I didn't know he had a brother,

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Dory Funk Jr.

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Oh,

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and then superstar Billy Graham.

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I don't know who that is.

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Who's that?

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Oh,

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okay.

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Yeah, he must've been like on his

way out at: 1980

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mentioned he was big in the seventies.

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Do you guys remember anybody else

from the time that I didn't list?

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Okay.

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Wrestling 80s anonymous.

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Well, let's move on to music billboards.

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This is a specific week, the

th,: 1980

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I don't even think I

know what this song is.

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The number one song is called coming

up by Paul McCartney and the wings.

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I don't think I know that

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Billy Joel has the number

two song with, it's,

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you, should, you should, number two song.

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Look at you guys picking albums, are you,

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are those album names?

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Oh, wow.

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what are.

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we locked

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into

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that?

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Do you, do you

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have an alternative guess,

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Evan?

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It's still rock and roll to me.

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I do know the number three song.

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It's a song that we sang in

like choir in high school.

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The Rose by Bette

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Midler.

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It is a, good song.

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It is very

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Good

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I do not know the number four song.

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I've never even heard of it.

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It's an Elton John song.

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Little

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genie.

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Little Jean.

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Do I know that?

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Hmm.

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Okay.

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I just went to a yacht rock show.

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My first

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one ever

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here.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I, I don't know.

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I've never heard of the song nor the group

for the number five song, the Spinners

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Cupid, it's

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Cupid slash I've loved you for a long

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time.

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Well, I I think I know the number six

song, but I didn't know the artist.

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I think I know Steal Away.

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The artist is

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Robby Dupree

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Okay

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Uh

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Funky Town by The

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Lips is number seven.

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I didn't know the name of the group.

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Olivia Newton I do know this.

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I

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do

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know the song.

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Olivia Newton John has the number

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eight song.

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It's not

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physical Can you

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name one other?

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No.

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I

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don't know if I know it.

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Magic

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Jermaine Jackson with let's get serious.

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I don't think I know that

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song.

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I don't know.

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Jermaine

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Jackson,

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Yes.

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And rounding out the top 10 is let me

love you tonight by pure prairie league.

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You guys know that

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let's move on to what was

going on in the world.

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The Summer Olympics, 22nd Summer

Olympics games open in Moscow,

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led by the United States.

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But this was when 66 nations boycotted the

event because of the Soviet Afghan war.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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yes, Also starring Kurt

Russell in the movie.

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Yes.

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Are you a history teacher?

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What subject do you teach?

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Oh, well, it actually is fitting because

those things come up in the movie.

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Both of those things

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that you talked about

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were in the movie.

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Yeah.

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7 people died in a stampede to see

Pope John Paul, the 2nd in Brazil.

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Do you guys remember hearing about that?

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Mm mm.

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Hurricane Alan forms in the Atlantic

Ocean, so that would have been your

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guys side, will go on to become the

strongest hurricane ever recorded in

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the Atlantic Basin with winds of 190

miles per hour, which for the rest of

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the world is 305 kilometers per hour.

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Peter Sellers died.

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He was Bobo Pink Panther, the Goon Show.

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He was only 54.

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I don't know what he died of,

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but He died

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Mm

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hmm.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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yeah,

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Oh, that's fun.

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I love it.

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Well, that happens in this

movie that we're going to

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cover it too.

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I kind of

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it's fun when that happens.

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A couple of people got married.

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Raquel Welsh married

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French American TV documentary

producer Andre Weinfeld.

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They divorced in 1990.

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No, that

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wasn't.

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She was with

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no, you're thinking of

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Susan stranger.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, that's right.

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That's right.

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She was good call.

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I, I missed I missed your job.

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She

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was

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after.

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Oh, she's she's 1 of

the historical beauties.

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Yeah, actor, Michael

bean, webs, Carlene Olson.

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I think they might still be married.

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And Elizabeth Warren, Senator

Elizabeth Warren marries her.

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Law professor husband, Bruce Mann, Donna

Summer got married to Bruce Sudano.

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He was a, an award winning arranger,

but those famous people got married.

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Oh, Donna Summer.

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She's, she's.

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Not still

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with us,

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is she

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Okay,

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that's what happened.

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Oh,

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1 more death.

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The only reason I noted it was

because you won't even know him.

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It's just that it's the last

shot of Iran Persia at the time.

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He was only 60, so he in Cairo, he died.

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Was it really?

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Was it really?

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Yes,

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he got tracks.

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His documentary was really interesting.

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Did you

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guys see that?

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Okay, so in addition to used cars.

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The big movies that were

out at this time, airplane,

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Cheech

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and Chong.

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We'll talk about that, but Cheech and

Chong's next movie, Caddyshack and Star

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Wars episode 5, the Empire Strikes Back.

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It was released in May.

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In July, it was still

topping the box office.

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No, no, you don't.

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You don't.

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There's no movies anymore.

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Actually, I say that and there's one

movie out now that I want to see.

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But other than that, that very

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rarely happens.

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The

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the new gladiator.

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Yeah,

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you're right.

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This season on retro made, I've dedicated

to who I deem the ultimate , every

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man, Patrick Swayze and Kurt Russell.

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Do you guys have any feelings

or fandom that you would like to

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share about either of them before

we start talking about used cars?

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Mm hmm.

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Agreed.

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I mean, obviously I picked these two for

a couple of reasons, but all those movies

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you mentioned we've covered on RetroMade.

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So you guys go back and

listen to them if you haven't,

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listeners.

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Thank you.

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I mean, it's impossible to not like

Kurt even like this season doing this.

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There's a fair number of movies that I

hadn't seen before, but there's only 1

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movie that Kurt did that I did not enjoy.

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It's probably a

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genre issue for me.

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Stargate.

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I,

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did not like.

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it.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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But he's the every man

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in those movies.

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He's

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just your average husband or your average,

you know, and so he's put in these.

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Yeah, no, he's great.

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Do you guys think that Kurt

Russell and Patrick Swayze?

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Resemble each other at all back

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in the day.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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I asked all my first time guests

that so I was just curious

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but, they

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do like

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they're very like you you can

you can Yeah, like they're

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very they're they again.

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They're like every man.

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They're like they're not this muscled

up roided they're just kind of your

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they're attract extremely attractive

but in a normal achievable way

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and

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Yeah.

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oh you

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Yeah.

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Oh, for sure.

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Yeah.

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Fit.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm mm.

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But he's so cool, too.

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Kurtz

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really

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exudes coolness.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I know.

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I think II

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hear you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh, my God.

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That was good.

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A hundred percent.

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He is.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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It's very

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nice to hear that.

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I've seen it, but so long ago,

I don't recall anything from it.

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I thought about covering it,

but I'm, I'm not going because

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it's not in the 80s or the

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90s.

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So

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I'm not.

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Oh,

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Yeah, I don't remember anything.

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Well, no worries.

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I think it's finally time for us

to start discussing the movie.

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We're here to talk about.

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So let's get into the movie.

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Use cars July 11th, 1980.

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It's it's rated are very clearly.

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It's pretty long.

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It's almost 2 hours.

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: 00:43:28

And Robert Zemeckis is the director

and I love all of his movies.

403

: 00:43:33

So he also is one of the writers,

but he's super well known.

404

: 00:43:37

One of my favorites is

Romancing the Stone.

405

: 00:43:40

I love that movie.

406

: 00:43:41

But also Death Becomes Her, Who Framed

Roger Rabbit, Forrest Gump, back to

407

: 00:43:45

all the Back to the Future movies.

408

: 00:43:47

And there's a lot of the same actors

in this film, as well as in some

409

: 00:43:52

of the Back to the Future movies.

410

: 00:43:53

So Robert Zemeckis.

411

: 00:43:54

God, it's so good!

412

: 00:44:37

yeah,

413

: 00:46:10

I didn't see a signature with it,

but it was also I didn't realize

414

: 00:46:13

this executive produced by John

Milius and Steven Spielberg, which

415

: 00:46:21

is interesting.

416

: 00:46:32

They were, on like a World War 2 comedy

and they just didn't have time to do it.

417

: 00:46:36

So Zemeckis did it and they produced

418

: 00:46:37

it.

419

: 00:46:40

Yeah.

420

: 00:46:48

I've never seen it.

421

: 00:47:01

The other, the other writer

was Bob Gale, so both.

422

: 00:47:05

Robert Zemeckis directed it, but he was

also one of the writers and, and they,

423

: 00:47:09

I think they might be like, they teamed

up on the Back to the Future movies.

424

: 00:47:13

So that's where he's, what

Bob Gale is known for.

425

: 00:47:15

The music was Patrick Williams, which

I had not heard that before, but he

426

: 00:47:21

has scored more than 200 films.

427

: 00:47:25

Yeah.

428

: 00:47:26

He, he, received a 1980 Oscar

nomination for Breaking Away.

429

: 00:47:31

Not heard of that.

430

: 00:47:32

He also,

431

: 00:47:33

Yeah.

432

: 00:47:36

is it?

433

: 00:47:43

Oh,

434

: 00:47:43

I've not heard of it.

435

: 00:47:45

Okay.

436

: 00:47:49

Okay.

437

: 00:47:55

I will.

438

: 00:47:56

He also did all of me swing

shift, which we covered

439

: 00:47:59

also with Kurt Yeah.

440

: 00:48:02

Yeah.

441

: 00:48:03

Cuba, the grass harp, and, and he did

the music for Columbo, the Mary Tyler

442

: 00:48:07

Moore show and the Bob Newhart show.

443

: 00:48:27

Mm hmm.

444

: 00:48:35

Well, we have Kurt

Russell as our star here.

445

: 00:48:39

A very young, very, ugh, I just love him.

446

: 00:48:42

He's so attractive.

447

: 00:48:43

He's so charming.

448

: 00:48:43

I love Kurt Russell.

449

: 00:48:45

He plays Rudy Russo.

450

: 00:48:47

And then, I was mentioning movies that

people play multiple characters as fun.

451

: 00:48:52

So, this is a screwball where Jack

Warden plays, Twins, Roy and Luke Fuchs.

452

: 00:49:00

They're rivaling car dealership owners.

453

: 00:49:02

Oh, I did want to mention this is a 6.

454

: 00:49:04

7 on IMDb.

455

: 00:49:07

I'm curious what you

guys think about that.

456

: 00:49:18

Mm

457

: 00:49:18

hmm.

458

: 00:49:56

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is actually because

the best movie, what is that, Shawshank?

459

: 00:50:02

And it's like a

460

: 00:50:02

9.

461

: 00:50:03

1 or something.

462

: 00:50:51

Well, I have a feeling that most people

have not seen this movie, so I will

463

: 00:50:55

provide a little synopsis for you.

464

: 00:50:57

When the owner of a struggling

used car lot is killed, it's up to

465

: 00:51:00

the lot's hotshot salesman, Kurt

Russell, to save the property from

466

: 00:51:04

falling into the hands of the owner's

ruthless brother and used car rival.

467

: 00:51:09

Yeah, so that's jack warden

playing the rival owners.

468

: 00:51:14

And he's a twice Oscar nominated

for supporting roles in

469

: 00:51:18

heaven can wait and shampoo.

470

: 00:51:21

He was also in 12 angry men.

471

: 00:51:24

And he was Saul from

while you were sleeping.

472

: 00:51:26

It's been a long time

since I've seen that movie

473

: 00:52:26

Oh, oh, that's right.

474

: 00:52:30

I

475

: 00:52:42

agree he is underrated and I was reading

that he didn't want to do this movie.

476

: 00:52:46

The way they convinced him is

because whoever was saying,

477

: 00:52:50

oh, actors really like to play.

478

: 00:52:52

Drunk, dead, or more than one

part, and he gets to play both

479

: 00:52:56

dead and more than one part.

480

: 00:53:00

Yeah,

481

: 00:53:03

and then the, so Kurt Russell's the

main you know, your typical like

482

: 00:53:07

shady, shyster type used car salesman.

483

: 00:53:10

The other one is Jeff.

484

: 00:53:11

He's the other sleazy salesman

has played by Garrett Graham.

485

: 00:53:16

And I didn't really know him from a lot.

486

: 00:53:19

Did you guys

487

: 00:53:26

yeah,

488

: 00:54:20

They did a good job.

489

: 00:54:21

Each character had like a story,

like they did build characters.

490

: 00:54:25

He's very superstitious and he

has to overcome that, like that

491

: 00:54:29

bar scene

492

: 00:54:30

with.

493

: 00:54:30

Yeah.

494

: 00:54:31

Yeah.

495

: 00:54:33

Yeah,

496

: 00:54:34

there's a lot of setups.

497

: 00:54:35

I think that's 1 of the things

this movie did really well there.

498

: 00:54:37

There was a ton of setups that

at the beginning, you're like, I

499

: 00:54:40

wonder where they're showing me

this and it is paid off later.

500

: 00:54:43

Usually.

501

: 00:54:52

Mm hmm.

502

: 00:54:53

Frank McRae.

503

: 00:54:55

Did you guys enjoy seeing him?

504

: 00:55:15

Oh, my God.

505

: 00:55:30

Well, you'll know some of them.

506

: 00:55:33

So he was in Rocky 2.

507

: 00:55:34

He's his boss.

508

: 00:55:35

He's Rocky's boss.

509

: 00:55:36

He has to fire him.

510

: 00:55:38

He was also in lock

511

: 00:55:39

up.

512

: 00:55:39

Also, Fist.

513

: 00:55:40

So he's, he's a Sylvester Sloan.

514

: 00:55:42

He brings him in.

515

: 00:55:42

He likes him a lot.

516

: 00:55:44

Oh, also Paradise Alley,

which I actually haven't seen.

517

: 00:55:46

And Red Dawn, which we, he's a

teacher at the beginning in Red

518

: 00:55:50

Dawn.

519

: 00:55:58

Yes, he's huge.

520

: 00:56:01

He towers over Kurt Russell.

521

: 00:56:08

So he plays the, his name is Jim.

522

: 00:56:11

He's the mechanic, but then when the

car dealership cut into a a football

523

: 00:56:17

game with a commercial that's illegal.

524

: 00:56:19

And then they get a ton

of, business the next day.

525

: 00:56:21

And so they're like, well, I

guess you got to be a car salesman.

526

: 00:56:23

And he's dressed up

like your typical, like

527

: 00:56:26

used car salesman.

528

: 00:56:27

He's like, I don't know how to sell cars.

529

: 00:56:29

Yeah, he is.

530

: 00:56:30

It's good.

531

: 00:56:31

He's funny.

532

: 00:57:15

You know, it, it went on for a really

long time, but somehow it did work.

533

: 00:57:19

Like it was funny.

534

: 00:57:20

They managed to make that scene with

the naked girl hilarious for a really

535

: 00:57:25

long time by showing the different types

of people watching it on TV and yeah.

536

: 00:57:31

And, and Jeff.

537

: 00:57:32

He's like, Oh, my God, the car's red.

538

: 00:57:34

And he's he he can't deal with a red car.

539

: 00:57:36

It's yeah.

540

: 00:57:59

Yeah.

541

: 00:58:10

He puts gum

542

: 00:58:12

on a bumper, hold

543

: 00:58:13

It in place.

544

: 00:59:08

Good point.

545

: 00:59:14

And it's like every stereotypical

used car guy is put in.

546

: 00:59:19

Yeah,

547

: 00:59:33

well, you guys mentioned squiggy and

548

: 00:59:35

and Lenny

549

: 00:59:36

Lenny

550

: 00:59:36

and I had never seen that show

and I remember I was when I was

551

: 00:59:41

doing the research for this.

552

: 00:59:43

I was like, Michael McKeon is in this.

553

: 00:59:45

And, and then I had, I was like, oh,

I didn't recognize him, but like, when

554

: 00:59:50

I first watched it, a young Michael

McKeon, because I only know him as

555

: 00:59:54

like the brother in Better Call Saul.

556

: 00:59:56

But, yeah, and then David Lander.

557

: 00:59:58

So there are a team in

558

: 00:59:59

this too.

559

: 01:00:57

and it and Laverne and

Shirley was still in

560

: 01:01:01

production when

561

: 01:01:02

this movie was released.

562

: 01:01:04

Yeah, Yeah.

563

: 01:01:23

Spinal tap.

564

: 01:01:24

Yeah.

565

: 01:01:25

Yeah.

566

: 01:01:25

I it's cause I haven't seen

a lot of those older things.

567

: 01:01:29

So I only know him as an older man.

568

: 01:02:25

A lot of people in back to the future.

569

: 01:02:27

We're in this

570

: 01:02:28

also.

571

: 01:02:36

Did you guys notice who the judge was?

572

: 01:02:44

I about died.

573

: 01:02:45

I, he was phenomenal.

574

: 01:02:48

I was like, what a

character of this judge is.

575

: 01:02:50

And then I was like, why does

he look so familiar to me?

576

: 01:02:54

It's grandpa.

577

: 01:02:55

Yeah.

578

: 01:03:06

Oh,

579

: 01:03:06

really?

580

: 01:03:22

Oh,

581

: 01:03:46

and he says on the way to go measure

the cars, I could have played 8

582

: 01:03:49

rounds of golf, 8 rounds of golf.

583

: 01:03:55

Her whole thing.

584

: 01:03:55

Yeah.

585

: 01:04:01

Well, I was kind of wondering.

586

: 01:04:03

I'm like, this was 19.

587

: 01:04:04

I was like, did he, was he pretty

young when he played grandpa?

588

: 01:04:09

I mean, he couldn't have been.

589

: 01:04:12

Yeah.

590

: 01:04:13

Okay.

591

: 01:04:18

Okay.

592

: 01:04:19

I forgot.

593

: 01:04:20

I didn't want to pass over the lovely

woman who plays Luke's long lost daughter

594

: 01:04:27

and the love interest of Kurt Russell.

595

: 01:04:29

Her name in the movie is Barbara Fuchs.

596

: 01:04:32

Her actual name is Deborah Harmon.

597

: 01:04:34

Do you guys know her from anything?

598

: 01:04:49

Ooh, I don't know.

599

: 01:04:51

It's possible.

600

: 01:04:52

You guys probably haven't seen this show.

601

: 01:04:54

It only lasted a season or two, but

it was a spinoff of Growing Pains

602

: 01:04:58

called Just

603

: 01:04:59

the Ten of Us.

604

: 01:05:25

She, she plays his wife,

605

: 01:05:26

Elizabeth, in Just

606

: 01:05:27

the Ten of Us.

607

: 01:05:35

He was also in Patrick Swayze's first

ever movie role in: 1979

608

: 01:05:42

I covered it on the show and he's in that.

609

: 01:05:44

It's also like a crazy wild.

610

: 01:05:46

It's similar to this almost

like, it's just you're like,

611

: 01:05:50

how did this movie get made?

612

: 01:05:50

It's just like wackadoo.

613

: 01:05:54

It's

614

: 01:05:54

fun.

615

: 01:06:09

I

616

: 01:06:09

don't know why I

617

: 01:06:10

loved it.

618

: 01:06:13

The Lubbock Babes,

619

: 01:06:15

they like had a singing

620

: 01:06:15

group.

621

: 01:06:16

yeah,

622

: 01:06:26

yeah, Marie.

623

: 01:06:27

Yeah, Heather Longenkamp.

624

: 01:06:29

Heather Longenkamp.

625

: 01:06:34

yeah.

626

: 01:06:35

This movie didn't make money.

627

: 01:06:36

So, I mean, it did technically.

628

: 01:06:38

It cost 8 million to make and grossed.

629

: 01:06:43

Any guesses?

630

: 01:06:49

I mean, technically,

631

: 01:06:55

I know I listen.

632

: 01:06:56

So

633

: 01:07:08

8,

634

: 01:07:14

8 million.

635

: 01:07:15

You are, you,

636

: 01:07:49

well, I have noticed you are very

good at the guessing of the box

637

: 01:07:53

office.

638

: 01:07:53

So you're very close.

639

: 01:07:55

11.

640

: 01:07:55

7.

641

: 01:07:55

11.

642

: 01:07:57

7.

643

: 01:07:58

The reason I say it didn't do well is

because nobody's heard of it Like you guys

644

: 01:08:02

hadn't seen this before had you I hadn't

645

: 01:08:15

Oh, Okay.

646

: 01:08:21

just cuz the cars Mm hmm.

647

: 01:08:54

one of the big movies that I mentioned

was airplane came out at the same

648

: 01:08:57

time Used cars, we haven't heard of

it, but it has a good IMDb rating.

649

: 01:09:01

Well, according to the Zemeckis and

Gale, the release of it was botched.

650

: 01:09:07

They kind of screwed up the marketing

because they moved up the release.

651

: 01:09:10

It was originally going to be

later in August or something.

652

: 01:09:13

I want to say and it tested

really, really well with audience.

653

: 01:09:18

In fact, the movie received the highest

test audience ratings of any movie of

654

: 01:09:22

any genre in Columbia Pictures history.

655

: 01:09:26

But it was a disappointing box office.

656

: 01:09:28

It was released the same week

as airplane, which was heavily

657

: 01:09:31

promoted and this wasn't.

658

: 01:09:34

This wasn't like, they moved it up

and then they didn't really market it.

659

: 01:09:37

Speaking of underrated, the, the

New York times called used cars.

660

: 01:09:41

1 of the most underrated

comedies of all time.

661

: 01:09:45

And it's among American film

Institute's: 2000

662

: 01:09:50

movies nominated for the top.

663

: 01:09:52

100 funniest American movies

664

: 01:09:57

so what do you guys do you agree?

665

: 01:09:58

What do you guys think

about the movie overall?

666

: 01:10:33

Mm hmm.

667

: 01:12:31

It's more elevated.

668

: 01:12:32

It's, it's interesting because there

is a fair number of slapstick you

669

: 01:12:36

know, situational comedic stuff.

670

: 01:12:38

But then there's a lot of subtlety to

like you said we like just the opening

671

: 01:12:42

scene, like you said, when he's turning

the mileage back, we don't see the person.

672

: 01:12:47

And we just see the hands

of the person and his like.

673

: 01:12:50

Used car, pinky rings, you know, like you

get a feel for, Oh, that's, I see what's

674

: 01:12:55

happening here.

675

: 01:12:56

I don't know, Yeah.

676

: 01:13:32

I did love, I mean, it wouldn't be in

a movie now, but every couple he meets

677

: 01:13:37

when he finds out what their ethnicity or

last name is, then he uses the last name.

678

: 01:13:41

Oh, the Lopez's I'm, I'm

Rodriguez or whatever.

679

: 01:13:44

Oh, the

680

: 01:13:45

O'Brien.

681

: 01:13:45

Oh, I'm

682

: 01:13:46

O'Fallon.

683

: 01:13:47

yeah.

684

: 01:13:59

Yeah, yeah,

685

: 01:14:05

yeah, it was, and it somehow worked

like those people weren't offended.

686

: 01:14:10

You know, they're like, oh, yeah.

687

: 01:14:12

The clothes.

688

: 01:14:13

I mean, just the epitome of a

stereotypical used car salesman with

689

: 01:14:18

the colorful jackets and the, what

is the material polyester pants?

690

: 01:14:24

And the Fred Flintstone wide short tie.

691

: 01:14:27

Yeah.

692

: 01:14:31

Yeah.

693

: 01:14:32

Yeah

694

: 01:14:32

I don't know what I was expecting,

but I was really surprised watching.

695

: 01:14:37

I really didn't know anything about it.

696

: 01:14:39

I thought it was going to be kind

of boring like a drama almost.

697

: 01:14:42

And I was not expecting so much

adventure and action and just the

698

: 01:14:47

screwball satirical nature of it.

699

: 01:14:49

I don't know.

700

: 01:14:50

I was really.

701

: 01:14:51

I didn't realize that's what it was.

702

: 01:14:53

And so it was like a

fun, pleasant surprise.

703

: 01:16:13

Well, the guy that dies is like a good

hearted person and the brother is evil.

704

: 01:16:19

And then he just, you know,

the typical shady used carsman.

705

: 01:16:22

But of course, Kurt gets the girl

in the end, the answering machine,

706

: 01:16:26

first of all, I didn't realize there

were answering machines in: 1980

707

: 01:16:29

Second of all, it was this

huge piece of equipment.

708

: 01:17:09

What did you guys think of the dog, Toby?

709

: 01:17:12

I'm curious what your

710

: 01:17:13

thoughts are.

711

: 01:17:36

He was incredibly well trained.

712

: 01:17:38

He could pick, he was told to

go get a screwdriver and he's

713

: 01:17:42

like, no, no, no, a fill up

714

: 01:17:43

screwdriver.

715

: 01:17:44

And so he goes

716

: 01:17:44

and gets a different so a lot of times.

717

: 01:17:49

I'm not a bit.

718

: 01:17:50

I love animals and

dogs, but I'm in movies.

719

: 01:17:53

I'm sort of like, I'm not

really a fan of kids in a.

720

: 01:17:57

In movies either, but every once in a

while, there's a standout and I think this

721

: 01:18:01

dog was like, they really utilized him.

722

: 01:18:03

He was part of the whole everything

and that scene where he plays dead.

723

: 01:18:09

I was a little worried.

724

: 01:18:10

I was like, in 90, is

that really a dead dog?

725

: 01:18:12

Because he was so limp and

his tongue was hanging out.

726

: 01:18:15

It was like, he was dead.

727

: 01:18:17

He, they dated that dog for that scene.

728

: 01:18:19

So he was.

729

: 01:18:36

Agreed.

730

: 01:18:37

Mm

731

: 01:18:37

hmm.

732

: 01:18:38

Mm hmm.

733

: 01:18:39

Mm

734

: 01:19:25

hmm.

735

: 01:20:22

Everyone.

736

: 01:20:23

You had mentioned Gru, the

Iranian conflict at the time.

737

: 01:20:28

So, where it shows up in this movie

is , there's a commercial where Jeff

738

: 01:20:32

actually shoots up with real, apparently

it's real ammunition shooting these

739

: 01:20:36

cars up and he's interviewed by the FBI.

740

: 01:20:40

You know, and he's like, I don't know.

741

: 01:20:41

I saw some guys with like

742

: 01:20:43

towels on their head

743

: 01:20:44

and weird weird beards.

744

: 01:20:47

And I think there

745

: 01:20:47

were Some Iranian students yeah, Yeah.

746

: 01:21:50

No, the classic cars.

747

: 01:21:53

So I, okay.

748

: 01:21:53

I was a little confused about

the student driver teacher.

749

: 01:21:59

And I was like, what's, what's going on.

750

: 01:22:00

They're paying for old junk

cars for the student drivers.

751

: 01:22:04

And then.

752

: 01:22:05

Kurt tries to say, oh, no, those

really old what, what we would

753

: 01:22:09

consider now to be classic cars.

754

: 01:22:10

He's like, those are the ones we

should give the student drivers.

755

: 01:22:13

Well, those ones were from Greece.

756

: 01:22:16

The

757

: 01:22:16

actual cars from Greece,

758

: 01:22:28

right?

759

: 01:22:28

Convertible.

760

: 01:22:29

And the

761

: 01:22:30

scorpion mercury

762

: 01:22:31

with It

763

: 01:23:10

was a real, so it was

filmed in Mesa, Arizona.

764

: 01:23:13

And I guess that was

a real active highway.

765

: 01:23:16

And it was made filming difficult.

766

: 01:23:18

Cheryl Rickson played the woman whose

clothes got pulled off on the car hood.

767

: 01:23:25

Do you guys know who she is?

768

: 01:23:26

She's Australian, I guess.

769

: 01:23:44

Circuit Oh, yeah.

770

: 01:24:25

Oh, I think so too.

771

: 01:24:28

yeah,

772

: 01:24:34

I didn't know who she was, but the

Cheryl Rickson, who, so she was the

773

: 01:24:41

1977 penthouse pet of the month and

pet of the year in: 1979

774

: 01:24:48

So

775

: 01:24:53

I wondered it.

776

: 01:24:54

That's why I was like, I wonder

if they know her from that

777

: 01:25:06

out of the way.

778

: 01:25:07

Yeah.

779

: 01:25:17

There's like 8 kids too.

780

: 01:25:18

It's like a, yeah, just

running around rampant.

781

: 01:25:22

I'm curious if you guys have any guesses

what the potential alternate title of

782

: 01:25:28

this was and Bob Gale thought it would

have done better in the box office.

783

: 01:25:33

There was a, I'll give you a hint.

784

: 01:25:35

There's a slogan that

Kurt says a few times,

785

: 01:25:44

like on

786

: 01:25:45

his poster for

787

: 01:25:45

us Senate or, state center.

788

: 01:25:54

Trust me.

789

: 01:25:58

do you guys think that would

have been a better time?

790

: 01:26:04

Okay.

791

: 01:26:28

Yeah, I think, I think I agree too.

792

: 01:26:30

I don't know.

793

: 01:26:30

I think they were probably just

kind of: 2020

794

: 01:26:34

how could we have made this better?

795

: 01:26:36

So it did better at the box office, but.

796

: 01:26:38

So it wasn't originally with Columbia

originally, they shopped it to universal.

797

: 01:26:45

And they had a different person in

mind for Russo Kurt's character.

798

: 01:26:50

Any guesses?

799

: 01:26:52

Not at all like Kurt, but would have

been the perfect sleazy car salesman.

800

: 01:27:03

Very tan.

801

: 01:27:17

Not ever A list.

802

: 01:27:18

No, probably like a B list star.

803

: 01:27:20

George,

804

: 01:27:37

George Hamilton.

805

: 01:27:45

And like he

806

: 01:27:48

very used car salesman.

807

: 01:27:53

I do too.

808

: 01:27:54

I, yeah, agreed.

809

: 01:27:56

Kevin Conway passed to play Roy Fuchs.

810

: 01:27:59

He was offered, but he passed.

811

: 01:28:22

Yeah,

812

: 01:28:23

yeah.

813

: 01:28:36

A very famous actor was originally

cast playing Joe Flatterty's role,

814

: 01:28:42

but ultimately dropped out because

his agent erroneously double booked

815

: 01:28:45

him while he was filming 1941.

816

: 01:28:48

Which is not interesting.

817

: 01:29:00

John Candy.

818

: 01:29:12

Yeah.

819

: 01:29:13

Well, you guys I think this was a very

fun, silly ride with the always handsome.

820

: 01:29:20

And charming Kurt Russell.

821

: 01:29:21

But it is time to come back to

the present day reality until

822

: 01:29:24

the next Retro Made episode.

823

: 01:29:26

Evan and Andrew, I can't thank

you enough for joining me to cover

824

: 01:29:30

this lesser known Kurt movie.

825

: 01:29:33

Do you guys have any final

thoughts about used cars?

826

: 01:29:37

And then please don't forget to

tell us where we can find you guys.

827

: 01:30:37

Thank you.

828

: 01:31:06

Oh, yeah.

829

: 01:31:07

Yeah.

830

: 01:31:26

Yeah.

831

: 01:31:26

That'd be great.

832

: 01:31:26

I love Jean Claude.

833

: 01:31:28

You know, all the, all the

handsome guys twist my arm.

834

: 01:31:32

But

835

: 01:31:35

yeah.

836

: 01:31:36

Well, thank you all for

listening or watching on YouTube.

837

: 01:31:40

And if you like the show and

you have not yet offered a

838

: 01:31:44

rating or review, please do so.

839

: 01:31:45

This is your official reminder.

840

: 01:31:47

And until next time, be kind, rewind.