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1st May 2024

Stargate | S1E28

Today, we travel back to October 1994 for the science-fiction action adventure movie that spurred  a whole tv franchise - Stargate. And as always, we’ll touch on all the other “happenings” of the time in the time capsule.

I’m happy to be joined by Kevin & Eric from the Six Degrees of Schwarzenegger podcast on the Last of the Action Heroes Podcast Network. On Six Degrees of Schwarzenegger, they take a look back at some of their (and our) favorite movies from the golden era of action. There’s plenty of ground to cover, so listen as they take a deep dive and examine the good, the bad, the ugly, and the laughable in these movies. Here's where you can find them:

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

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Hello.

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I'm Katie and welcome to Retro

Made, your pop culture rewind.

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Today, we're going to travel back

to October of:

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fiction adventure movie that spurred

a whole TV franchise apparently.

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Stargate and as always, we'll touch

on all of the other happenings

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of the time in the time capsule.

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I am so happy today to be joined

by Kevin and Eric from 6 Degrees of

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Schwarzenegger podcast on the last

of the action heroes podcast network.

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I'm also on that.

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Network for a Rocky one more round show,

but thank you guys both for joining me.

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Please tell all of us more

about you guys and your show.

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Kevin and Eric: Thanks for having us on.

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First of all, Katie we're fans and

yeah, we share a lot of the same

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space on the last podcast network.

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You can also find us on our own feeds too.

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And I think we're on most of

the networks that are available.

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But what we do is take a deep dive

into a lot of the movies that we

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grew up loving from like the golden

age of , movies, like early eighties

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through mid to late nineties, the

heyday of Stallone and Schwarzenegger.

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And who else?

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I mean, All the Russell, I mean, Bruce

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Willis, All the good stuff was coming

out then before CG and PG 13 rated

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action sort of became like the norm.

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Also, Eric's running social media for us.

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Yeah, I do a little bit of that.

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we have an Instagram page.

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Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon.

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No, not Bacon.

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Oh my God, sorry.

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Six Degrees of Schwarzenegger.

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That was a Freudian slip

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Katie: but it's a play on that phrase,

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Kevin and Eric: It is, which is

such a clever, I claim no credit

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for the name of the podcast.

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It's all this guy over here.

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Yeah.

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Well, the movies are so, Ancestuous.

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Yeah.

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Ancestuous from that time.

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Like, the same guys

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from Ancestuous.

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And, and behind the camera and in front

of the camera would turn up in the movies

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with each other over and over and over.

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So yeah, they all are sort

of interconnected in a way.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, we're at six DOS

podcast on like Instagram.

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Instagram or Facebook.

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And Facebook.

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Yeah.

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, we just take a loving and, and a funny,

hopefully look back at these movies.

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Yeah, and because of the way we

record it we get slightly more

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inebriated the farther along into

the episode that you get, which gives

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it an interesting, fun vibe if you

stick with us through the very end.

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Yes, I'm

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drinking tonight for, I'm

drinking Russell's Reserve

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for Kurt Russell tonight.

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Katie: Ooh, I love it.

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Kevin and Eric: It's not Kurt

Russell's bourbon or anything, but I

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guess you could say I'm drinking this

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hazy IPA because we're in

a desert and it gets hazy

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in a desert.

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Katie: ooh, there you go.

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I like it.

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It does work.

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I'm a very big fan of the

drinking during the podcast, but

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sadly, I only have water today.

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You guys will like this show.

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I, I promise you.

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And what I find is unique is that

you do a movie, it's 5 episodes

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will cover movies, so you don't

feel rushed to get through it.

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All right.

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Is that did I get that?

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Right?

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Kevin and Eric: Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, we do a really, really deep dive.

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I mean, scene by scene.

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And we intersperse it with trivia,

factoids about what the movie's

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about, and just our own personal

takes and anecdotes of where we were

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when we were watching these things.

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Yeah.

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My favorite is when we get way off

topic, and down these deep rabbit

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holes of other things that come to

mind as we're discussing the movie.

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So, I like your on RetroMade in that way,

because you're looking at the other things

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that were going on in all of our lives

at the times that the movies were out.

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Katie: That's what I was going to say.

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It sounds very familiar.

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I like it.

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Well, to that point, you guys.

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this is actually the anniversary episode.

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RetroMade has now been

around for a whole year.

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Kevin and Eric: Wow.

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Congratulations.

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Yes.

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Feel

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honored to be on the anniversary episode.

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What's your

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release schedule?

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Like how many have there

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been?

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Katie: well, this'll be

like the 26th or 27th.

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So every two weeks

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Kevin and Eric: Okay.

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Oh, okay.

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Katie: The beginning of

May will be a whole year.

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So to help me celebrate a retro made

listeners, please give me the show,

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a five star rating and review Apple,

Spotify, Podchaser, you can do that

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on, I think, or if you're feeling extra

generous, you can offer a tip to help

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me celebrate the year anniversary.

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There's a link in the show notes to

show your appreciation, but yeah, I'm

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excited to make it a year because I feel

like a lot of podcasts Don't that start.

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So, okay, now we can open the time

capsule from October,:

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to do something a little bit different

because we've already covered this season.

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So this would be like the 94, 95

season, and we've already covered

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the top Nielsen rated shows.

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as well as notable finales and

premieres in both the Tall Tale episode

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as well as the Too Wong Fu episode.

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I've given you the list of the top shows

and I wondered if, if you guys have

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any particular thoughts or feelings

that you want to share on, on one that

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meant something to you in particular.

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Kevin and Eric: I actually

do have an anecdote.

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And it's specifically about Seinfeld.

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It's how I came to movies.

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Interestingly enough.

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I.

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Around this time period I was working

at Blockbuster and the American

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Film Institute released their

first list of 100 Greatest Movies.

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This is actually a little bit

later than 94, but it's because

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of Seinfeld that this is relevant.

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Um, I, they did a cross promotion, the

AFI and Blockbuster did a cross promotion

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where they were putting stickers on all

the movies that were part of the list.

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And I got five free rentals

every week from Blockbuster.

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Well, purely coincidentally, I

was watching Seinfeld with my

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mother and the show had one of a

million Godfather references and

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it went completely over my head.

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My mother laughed and I was

like, why did you laugh?

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And she's like, Oh my God,

you've never seen the Godfather.

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So we went out and we rented the Godfather

and we watched it and I loved it.

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And I'm like, are all movies like this?

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And she says, well, no, not all movies,

but because of the timing of the AFI, and

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I just happened to get, I was a junior

in high school and I just happened to

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be off of school, we spent the entire

summer watching the entire 100 top movies,

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the original list that they released.

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And it just, it completely changed me.

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After that, I went down this

rabbit hole I've never come out of.

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About movies.

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that's what, when you showed me

Seinfeld, that is, that is exactly,

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immediately what I thought of.

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Katie: Are all movies like this?

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No, no, no, no.

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That's one of the best

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Kevin and Eric: Right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Katie: but Oh, 100.

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That's fantastic.

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Impressive.

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Kevin and Eric: everything from Yankee

Doodle Dandy to Gone with the Wind, to

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The Apartment, to Pulp Fiction, all of it.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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Katie: were there any surprises for you

that you like, weren't thinking you were

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going to love and you did or vice versa?

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Kevin and Eric: Oh, yeah, I mean, so many.

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I mean, I, I had heard of Quentin

Tarantino at this point, but I'd never

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seen any of his movies, and Pulp Fiction

was such a revelatory experience for me in

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terms of, like, how you could shoot movies

out of sequence, and, because movies,

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you know, for a long time were very

narratively driven, and the way he shot

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it out of sequence and it still worked,

thematically and narratively was amazing.

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But the one that blew me away, and

I know this is maybe a little bit,

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uh, on the nose, but Citizen Kane.

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And it was because of when you think

about when it came out in:

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like movies had never done some of

the things that Citizen Kane did.

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I mean, he invented camera shots

and cinematography techniques

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and special effects shots that

had never been done before.

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Being in high school and watching

all of these movies and then and

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we watch them in order too, right?

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and so citizen kane was the last

one that I watched It was just like

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You've been steeped in all of these

movies up to this point and then you

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get to citizen kane and you realize

oh my god So much of everything that

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I watched came from this one movie.

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And it was just, it was

absolutely overwhelming to me.

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Citizen Kane is like that

movie, believe the hype.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's still remains like a top

five all timer for me as well.

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Um, I was a big Seinfeld guy.

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As you were and then I would watch ER.

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I was a huge ER guy.

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I see that was the number

two show that was on.

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It was that when NBC owns Thursday nights.

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That's right.

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You know, his friends and

Seinfeld and ER and this was

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right after Jurassic Park, right?

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So it was like, oh, Michael Crichton

and Steven Spielberg have a TV show.

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I'm all about this and I was all over it.

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The, the funniest thing ever for me, ER

related, is the character the sort of bald

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haired guy he came on later in the show.

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I think Paul McCrane is the actor.

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He was the guy in RoboCop who got

the toxic waste dumped all over him.

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Yeah, that's right.

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I remember him.

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But on ER he got his arm chopped

off by a helicopter, like

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on the roof of the hospital.

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And then

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later on he got killed when a

helicopter fell off the roof of

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the hospital and landed on him.

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And it's like,

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Katie: I don't remember that.

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Kevin and Eric: he's got

beef with helicopters

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on this show.

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Yeah.

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That's a lot for one

character to go through.

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Um, but yeah, Home Improvement, big fan.

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A lot of the shows on the list

90s were a good era for, for

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that comfort viewing TV as well.

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And you know, I know that you said that

you covered a lot of this, and so I

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just, I want to completely derail things

a little bit in terms of pop culture.

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94 was A watershed year for the

video game industry, believe it or

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Katie: Oh, good tidbit.

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Kevin and Eric: amazing games came out

in 94, including super Metroid on the

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super Nintendo, which is just a pioneering

kind of open world side scrolling

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adventure game, final fantasy six.

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Which is still heralded as one

of the greatest JRPGs ever made.

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Earthworm Jim, if you can

remember, if you remember that game

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whatsoever, which is another big one.

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Doom 2, Sonic 3, Donkey

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Kong Country, the original Tekken.

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I mean, it is, it is an absolute

bottomless pit of of content that

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came out that year, just in video

game world, I mean, it's just

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amazing to me because you were, you

know, you were talking specifically

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about other pop culture things.

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I'm like,

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I wonder what's going on

in the games industry.

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Katie: Am glad you brought that

up because I'm not a gamer.

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I, so I'm glad you brought that

up because I can share very little

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of my gaming experience, but I can

picture playing like Mario Kart

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in my neighbor's basement, like on

those chairs that were made, like

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those low to the ground chairs that

were made for video game playing.

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So thanks for bringing those up.

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Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I couldn't help myself.

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I do work in the games

industry, so I felt obligated.

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I had to, I had to represent

a little bit there.

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So, and I'm wearing a

Mario shirt right now.

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Uh, so I'm

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just, you know, I got, it.

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got to represent the brand a little bit.

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Katie: That's perfect.

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Yeah, you, you're both dressed

for the occasion, Mario.

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And then we have Rocky 3.

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Kevin and Eric: just for you.

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Katie: thank you.

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Thank you.

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Well, should we move on to music?

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Top 10 billboards, you guys.

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And again, when I do the top 10

billboards, it's this specific week.

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So this is October 28th.

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That week, 94, it is.

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Mostly love ballads, like tons of them.

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Kevin and Eric: Okay.

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Katie: number one song was Boyz

II Men's I'll Make Love To You.

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Kevin and Eric: Yes.

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Oh, yeah.

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I was like, junior prom stable for sure.

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You could not get away from it.

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I heard that song more times than

I ever wanted to in my entire life.

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But number two was Sheryl Crow's

epic classic, All I Wanna Do.

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Katie: Yes, which is not a love

ballad, but man, that's one

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that'll get stuck in your head.

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And to be honest with

you, I'm way over it.

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I hate it when I hear it now.

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Cause it was,

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Kevin and Eric: Okay.

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Katie: on the radio.

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That's one of those for me.

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Do you guys remember Endless Love

by Luther Vandross and Mariah Carey?

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I kind of didn't.

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I had to look it up.

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I didn't really remember

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Kevin and Eric: Is that a cover?

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Yeah, I think it was, right?

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yeah.

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yeah.

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Maybe, I don't know if it is or

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Katie: good call.

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It does sound familiar.

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It's either a cover of something or

someone has covered it because it sounded

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Kevin and Eric: like it could have been

a Lionel Richie or something like that.

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Can I make

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that up?

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It was a Diana Ross Lionel Richie song.

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Yeah, that is

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correct.

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yeah.

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Katie: Good job, you guys.

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Kevin and Eric: you can thank you

can thank Google for that one.

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He's, he's over here cheating.

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Yeah, I'm cheating big time.

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I apologize.

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I pulled Lionel Richie out of my

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ass.

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Katie: no, that that's spot on.

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Kevin and Eric: I mean, at this point,

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I, I'm still the top 100.

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I mean, I just been listening to

classic rock for most of my life and.

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Never really grew out of it.

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So, these top tens, I never, most of

what I like is never in the top tens.

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Although I admit I am not

tired of all I want to do.

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I still love Sheryl Crow.

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Katie: but there's another one of

those that's on the list, but we're

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going to come to it in a second.

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The number four is when Madonna was

that, I just, this must have been that

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area where she was like really sick.

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Sensual and sexy secret.

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Do you remember secret?

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Kevin and Eric: do not know.

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Is this her era when

she was like doing that.

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bullfighting music video?

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Katie: It

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Kevin and Eric: can't that was like,

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her last, the end towards the end of

her, her super duper stardom, right?

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Katie: it was like,

something's got a hold of me,

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Kevin and Eric: Oh, it's like

a dance type song, right?

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A little

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Katie: but she was, it was

very, it's like a hot song.

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Kevin and Eric: Okay.

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Okay.

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I can picture it.

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Sweaty

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Katie: But then the other song that I

was talking about that got played out.

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And so it annoys me is

real McCoy's another night.

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Do

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Kevin and Eric: I don't think

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Katie: I'm

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Kevin and Eric: I don't think

I can even picture that.

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Katie: Another

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Kevin and Eric: to drop a clip

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Katie: Mm

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Kevin and Eric: Oh yes.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Yes, I can.

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I was hearing all of these.

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This was when I was new to

buying CDs and listening

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to stuff, but I was not listening to

a lot of the, this sort of club music.

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Yeah.

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Katie: But Babyface

has When Can I See You?

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Which was like another slow love song.

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Like, when can I see you again, something

about my heart, let my heart beat again.

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Kevin and Eric: You're

totally right though.

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It's nothing but love ballads in the

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top 100 this week.

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Katie: and then this

one, I, I looked it up.

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It's one of those I feel like the early

90s had a lot of young boy groups too they

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weren't even fully gone through puberty.

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This was Immature with Never Lie.

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I'd be shocked if you knew it,

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Kevin and Eric: I do not know this song.

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I've never heard of them.

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Katie: but you know, like Ayesha,

like all those kind of boy

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groups where they're like 12.

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Kevin and Eric: Criss

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Cross.

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Criss Cross is

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exactly what came to mind.

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That was one of my very

first CDs I ever got

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Katie: I loved Criss Cross.

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Yeah.

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Kevin and Eric: Mac

Daddy, think he'd jump.

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Katie: Daddy Mac will make ya.

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Kevin and Eric: And they sang about

things that I understood, too.

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Yeah, they were Atlanta.

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they

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were an Atlanta group.

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And they were an Atlanta group, Yeah.

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Katie: Aaliyah, rest in peace has the

number eight song with At Your Best.

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This is again I don't love this song.

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I'm not a big ballad person.

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I like classic rock group ballads,

but a lot of the ones that are

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supposed to be really lovey

dovey, I'm like, this is boring.

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Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

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Katie: I don't know.

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Kevin and Eric: I could not agree more.

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Katie: This, this next song also kind

of annoys me, Always by Bon Jovi.

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Kevin and Eric: I

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was never a Bon Jovi guy,

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Katie: Yeah, me

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Kevin and Eric: I wasn't

on that Jersey Rock vibe.

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Nope, never was.

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Never was.

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Katie: Not big into Bon Jovi and I liked

some of the earlier stuff better, but

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this nineties era, Bon Jovi less so.

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But that was a huge song.

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I remember it playing all the time.

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The number 10 song is not a love

ballad, and I love it to this day.

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Here comes the Hot Stepper

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Kevin and Eric: Yeah,

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Katie: nie.

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I'm not pronouncing the

person's name correctly.

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Probably Nie Kamozi.

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is the artist,

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but

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he's a

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Kevin and Eric: hear that one

in my head anytime I want to.

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yeah, I

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was, yeah, that's, that's one of the get

stuck in your head for days or weeks.

417

:

Heck of a hook, man.

418

:

Hell of a hook.

419

:

Katie: yeah, and I'm like,

am I singing the words right?

420

:

Am I getting it right?

421

:

Kevin and Eric: Oh, I

422

:

can never decipher that

sort of reggae inspired like

423

:

hip hop.

424

:

Yeah.

425

:

Katie: Like snow too,

but that was gibberish.

426

:

I feel

427

:

Kevin and Eric: my sister loved that.

428

:

Katie: yeah, it's good stuff.

429

:

I like that.

430

:

I do like reggae.

431

:

So, of course, I like that song.

432

:

So that was the top 10 billboards

you guys from this week stuff that

433

:

was happening in the world though.

434

:

The Farside cartoon.

435

:

Do you guys remember that?

436

:

Kevin and Eric: The, the actual

cartoon, not the comic strip?

437

:

Katie: The comic strip.

438

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

439

:

Oh, okay, okay.

440

:

I still have a few of those

books on my bookshelf over here.

441

:

Yeah, that was hilarious.

442

:

Katie: Well, Gary Larson

apparently was the maker of it.

443

:

He announces that he was

retiring from doing it,

444

:

Kevin and Eric: That was in 94.

445

:

Wow.

446

:

Okay.

447

:

Yeah,

448

:

I remember reading so many of those.

449

:

I could never get enough of them.

450

:

I had all of the books and I would

reread them that in Calvin and

451

:

Hobbes I would read read those

over and over and over again.

452

:

Katie: I get them mixed up, those two.

453

:

Kevin and Eric: yeah

454

:

Katie: Farsight and Calvin and Hobbes

455

:

Kevin and Eric: Okay, they

were contemporaries for sure.

456

:

Like they were both and on the

newspaper at the same time.

457

:

Katie: Okay.

458

:

This, I do not remember.

459

:

I don't know if you guys

are sports guys, but the NBA

460

:

shortens the three point distance

461

:

Kevin and Eric: Oh

462

:

Katie: a Yeah, okay,

463

:

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

464

:

I know I don't remember that

465

:

Katie: To a uniform 22 feet in an attempt

to help offensive players score more,

466

:

which it did because Michael Jordan sets

a career high in three point attempts

467

:

and converted three point field goals,

nearly doubling the previous statistics.

468

:

So it was easier.

469

:

Did you know that

470

:

Kevin and Eric: michael jordan

fan as I guess everyone probably

471

:

was at that time But yeah, I was

probably like a 12 or 13 year old.

472

:

So I wasn't plugged in, I

guess, on the rules like that.

473

:

Katie: I did not know

that happened at all.

474

:

Kevin and Eric: I know basketball exists

as a phenomenon, and that is about as

475

:

much as I can tell you about basketball.

476

:

It exists, it's a sport that exists.

477

:

Katie: Yeah, it's 1 that I understand

at least I'm able to follow the game.

478

:

Some of the other sports.

479

:

I'm like, wait now, what happened?

480

:

Kevin and Eric: Right, yeah.

481

:

You

482

:

Katie: Well, this next one, what is

old is new and what is new is old.

483

:

The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to

Yasser Arafat who was at the time the

484

:

Palestinian leader as well as with Israeli

Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon

485

:

Peres, Rabin, yeah, thank you and Shimon

Peres, which was an Israeli statesman.

486

:

So those three, Palestinian

leader and the Israeli leaders.

487

:

Nobel Peace Prize.

488

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, they were trying

with the, the two state solution at that

489

:

point, and I think Arafat ultimately

walked away from the table on that one.

490

:

I had no idea though that

that was exactly 20 years ago.

491

:

That is Very interesting.

492

:

Katie: Yeah.

493

:

Kevin and Eric: ago, 30 years?

494

:

ago.

495

:

Why did I say 30.

496

:

years?

497

:

It's your math, right?

498

:

I know.

499

:

90, 94.

500

:

Yeah.

501

:

Gets his suits at the same place as

Hans Gruber from the same tailor.

502

:

I love it.

503

:

Good, good call back to,

to our particular genre.

504

:

Katie: Venus Williams makes

her professional tennis debut.

505

:

Do you know how old she was?

506

:

Kevin and Eric: 94.

507

:

She was

508

:

probably a teenager though, right?

509

:

Like 13 or 14 or something.

510

:

Yeah.

511

:

That's

512

:

Katie: 14, she was

513

:

14.

514

:

Kevin and Eric: I

515

:

know,

516

:

what were we doing at 14?

517

:

Just sitting at home

watching watching movies.

518

:

Watching movies, yeah.

519

:

Watching Stargate, actually.

520

:

Watching Back to the

Future over and over again.

521

:

Katie: Wow.

522

:

Kevin and Eric: Facts.

523

:

Katie: There are a couple of weddings.

524

:

Whoopi Goldberg got married.

525

:

I think she's been married several

times, but at this time she was

526

:

38 and she married labor union

organizer, Lyle Trachtenberg.

527

:

They divorced the next year.

528

:

Kevin and Eric: Wasn't she married

to Ted Danson at some point?

529

:

Katie: They were either married

or dated seriously at some

530

:

Kevin and Eric: That blows my mind.

531

:

Well,

532

:

Katie: I think she's been

married like five times.

533

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, she, she

doesn't, yeah, she doesn't let the,

534

:

the dust settle on her weddings.

535

:

Katie: this one lasted a year or less,

536

:

but, Tracy Gold from Growing Pains

got married to Robey Marshall,

537

:

and they are still married.

538

:

Kevin and Eric: I love that.

539

:

Hollywood successful, Hollywood

540

:

marriage, can't complain.

541

:

Katie: Yeah,

542

:

Kevin and Eric: Oh,

543

:

Katie: a couple people died.

544

:

This, so, Burt Lancaster, who, yeah,

545

:

Kevin and Eric: yeah.

546

:

Huh, I didn't know that was

547

:

in

548

:

94, that's interesting.

549

:

He just had his name back in the news

from getting referenced by John Mulaney on

550

:

his Oscars speech about Field of Dreams.

551

:

Yeah.

552

:

Katie: oh, really?

553

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, Yeah,

554

:

Burt Lancaster and Field of Dreams.

555

:

That's really all I know him from, but he

was like a legendary Hollywood guy, right?

556

:

Old school, old age.

557

:

Back in like the 40s, 50s, 60s.

558

:

Yeah.

559

:

Katie: from here to eternity,

Fields of Dreams, Birdman of

560

:

Alcatraz, yeah, Burt Lancaster.

561

:

He was 80 and he died of a heart attack.

562

:

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

563

:

Katie: And then I love Raul Julia.

564

:

From the like my, the Addams

family, he's Gomez Addams to me

565

:

and

566

:

Kevin and Eric: uh,

he's, he's what, he's M.

567

:

Bison from Street Fighter

568

:

for

569

:

our, for our

570

:

Katie: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

571

:

Kevin and Eric: came out right

around this time as well.

572

:

Katie: well, he died because he,

he had a stroke and then like 3

573

:

weeks later, he died in October of

574

:

Kevin and Eric: that's right.

575

:

And they were they were in pre

production on a third Addams family

576

:

movie is my understanding

577

:

the very early stages of it I think

I think it was even before the

578

:

Street Fighter movie was released.

579

:

Yeah.

580

:

Yeah.

581

:

yeah,

582

:

that's oh, that's sad Yeah, he was great.

583

:

Yeah, I remember hearing that he died

and I was For some reason extremely

584

:

excited about the Street Fighter movie.

585

:

Oh, yeah, so was I and then

when it came out it was Not

586

:

what I was hoping it would be.

587

:

Katie: Was he the best part of it?

588

:

Kevin and Eric: No.

589

:

The

590

:

best part of that movie

591

:

is

592

:

when it ended.

593

:

Yeah,

594

:

it was a bad one.

595

:

He was trying really hard, but you could

see it in him that he was in poor health.

596

:

yeah.

597

:

Katie: Okay.

598

:

I actually have not seen that movie.

599

:

Kevin and Eric: You're not

600

:

missing a lot, But it's

worth watching just because

601

:

Katie: okay.

602

:

Kevin and Eric: it's

603

:

such

604

:

a train wreck.

605

:

Get some

606

:

friends around, get

607

:

some booze or

608

:

your drug of choice,

and then just watch it.

609

:

You

610

:

won't

611

:

regret it.

612

:

Yeah,

613

:

Katie: Well, Stargate was the

number nine movie in October of 94,

614

:

but some of the other Big movies.

615

:

The Specialist.

616

:

that with our, our boy Stallone?

617

:

Kevin and Eric: that was

a big bomb for him though.

618

:

Also, wasn't it?

619

:

I don't know.

620

:

I

621

:

don't think it?

622

:

did I don't think it

623

:

did

624

:

very well or maybe it was just critically

625

:

Katie: It was probably not well received

626

:

Kevin and Eric: or I might

be thinking about assassins

627

:

Katie: Yeah,

628

:

Kevin and Eric: one he had with Banderas

629

:

Katie: Yeah, I think

you're thinking Assassins.

630

:

I feel like The Specia Well, The

Specialist must have done well

631

:

because it was the number one

632

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, okay,

633

:

Katie: The River Wild

was the number two movie.

634

:

Kevin and Eric: that yeah the

fly fishing movie with the with

635

:

was it bad Kevin Bacon

was Am I making that up?

636

:

Katie: Oh.

637

:

Oh.

638

:

Kevin and Eric: It was it

639

:

Meryl Streep and Kevin

640

:

Katie: yes, you're right.

641

:

I'm thinking of a river runs through it.

642

:

That's what we're thinking of

643

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, that is right.

644

:

That is

645

:

You're right.

646

:

Neverwild was like, uh, thank

647

:

Katie: Kevin Bacon and Meryl Streep.

648

:

You're right.

649

:

Kevin and Eric: Psychotic like

650

:

rafters, right?

651

:

Oh,

652

:

that's right.

653

:

Yes.

654

:

I remember that.

655

:

I don't think I've ever seen it though

to be honest I just remember the I was

656

:

so plugged into movies at this time.

657

:

I was like knowing about every

movie that was coming out.

658

:

Yeah, but I couldn't see them all.

659

:

But yes, Riverwild.

660

:

Okay.

661

:

Katie: hmm.

662

:

Pulp Fiction.

663

:

Tiny little movie.

664

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, that's

an all time favorite for me.

665

:

Oh, yeah, without a doubt.

666

:

I had I don't know when exactly

this story happened in my life.

667

:

But at one point I was

a kid, 13 or whatever.

668

:

The family's station wagon broke down

669

:

and the car was at the shop

and my mom took me and my

670

:

sisters to the movie theater.

671

:

And my sisters went off to see, I don't,

I don't know what, maybe like a Mrs.

672

:

Doubtfire or something like that,

whatever would have been out.

673

:

And I was trying to decide what to

see and Pulp Fiction was playing.

674

:

asked the guy

675

:

behind

676

:

the counter, what's Pulp Fiction?

677

:

And, and this is like rural Georgia.

678

:

He was like, all the weirdos are

coming out to see Pulp Fiction.

679

:

And I think ultimately I was

not sent in by myself as a 13

680

:

year old to watch Pulp Fiction.

681

:

And I went to go see a movie

called the war with Kevin Costner

682

:

and Elijah Wood, which was.

683

:

Very forgettable.

684

:

I think that's probably the one

685

:

and only time I saw that movie, but yeah,

686

:

Katie: Pulp

687

:

Kevin and Eric: my, that's

my first experience of Pulp

688

:

Fiction, but now I love it.

689

:

It's an all time favorite.

690

:

I feel like that would have been, I

think that would have been a formative

691

:

moment for you if you had seen Pulp

692

:

Fiction in the middle of rural Georgia.

693

:

I'd probably be in jail right now.

694

:

I'd probably be in jail

right now if I did that.

695

:

Your life would have taken

a very different course.

696

:

What'd you ask, Katie?

697

:

Katie: well, no, I was just,

I, it gets such high praise

698

:

and I don't remember loving it.

699

:

I do love like Reservoir Dogs.

700

:

My very favorite is True Romance.

701

:

Kevin and Eric: yeah.

702

:

Oh,

703

:

yeah.

704

:

Katie: didn't direct it, but he wrote it.

705

:

That's like my favorite Tarantino.

706

:

And I, I remember I was watching

it with a friend and I didn't know

707

:

that she can't handle violence

708

:

Kevin and Eric: Oh,

709

:

okay.

710

:

Katie: But based on the name

of it, I was like, Oh, this

711

:

is one of my favorite movies.

712

:

Let's watch this.

713

:

And

714

:

Kevin and Eric: What true romance.

715

:

Katie: Yeah.

716

:

Kevin and Eric: She

717

:

thought it was

718

:

a rom com or

719

:

Katie: no, we had, yeah,

we had to turn it off.

720

:

She was like, I can't with this.

721

:

And I'm like, it's a movie.

722

:

Kevin and Eric: As far as Tarantino,

and obviously this is far more

723

:

contemporary, but I've seen Inglourious

Basterds more times than I can count.

724

:

That is one of my comfort movies, right?

725

:

When I just want to curl up with

a warm blanket in the middle

726

:

of winter when it's raining.

727

:

The Inglourious Bastard

is one of my go to's.

728

:

He's been

729

:

a good collaborator of Kurt Russell lately

730

:

too, right?

731

:

Yeah, which, Yeah.

732

:

Katie: Yeah.

733

:

Hateful, hateful late.

734

:

Right.

735

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, Ape Blade.

736

:

And he was, he was a cameo in in

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

737

:

And Death

738

:

Proof.

739

:

And Death Proof, yeah.

740

:

As a

741

:

stuntman.

742

:

I like to imagine that the stuntman guy

in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is the

743

:

father of the stuntman in Death Proof.

744

:

I mean.

745

:

Because I know Tarantino likes

to connect his movies like

746

:

that.

747

:

They were Stuntman Mike or whatever.

748

:

Yeah, I buy it.

749

:

Katie: So Forrest Gump was

released the prior July

750

:

or in July, but this is October and

it's still topping the box office.

751

:

Kevin and Eric: Wow.

752

:

Katie: Mm hmm.

753

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, it was

pretty great movie though.

754

:

Katie: Yeah.

755

:

Kevin and Eric: That was when

Zemeckis could do no wrong

756

:

Katie: That was a Mac is, wasn't it?

757

:

I think of romancing the stone.

758

:

Kevin and Eric: yes,

759

:

Katie: But that's, I

760

:

Kevin and Eric: way underrated movie.

761

:

I don't, I

762

:

Katie: It

763

:

Kevin and Eric: like younger

764

:

generation has not

765

:

watched that movie in

766

:

every sort of every

romantic adventure movie.

767

:

I feel like just wants to

be romancing the stone.

768

:

Katie: It is the best one by far, I think.

769

:

But the other ones were Only

You, New Nightmare, Quiz Show,

770

:

Jason's Lyric, and Little Giants.

771

:

So that was at the theater.

772

:

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

773

:

All right.

774

:

Okay,

775

:

quiz show is interesting.

776

:

That was a black and white

game show one with Tim Robbins.

777

:

It was about the cheater on the yeah.

778

:

I don't know if Tim Robbins was in it.

779

:

Ralph Fiennes was in it.

780

:

Was it Ralph Fiennes?

781

:

It was a Robert Redford directed vehicle.

782

:

Right, yeah, exactly.

783

:

Yeah, I watched that a million

times on HBO, I think, because it

784

:

was That was in the day when HBO

would just play the same movie every

785

:

day at the same time or whatever.

786

:

Yeah, it was Ray Fiennes and

787

:

John

788

:

Turturro, you're right.

789

:

I don't know why I thought

it was Tim Robbins.

790

:

It's good though.

791

:

Yeah, it's a good flick.

792

:

It's a good flick.

793

:

Katie: Before we get into Stargate as

you guys probably have figured out, my

794

:

season about The Ultimate Everyone is

based on Kurt Russell and Patrick Swayze.

795

:

Do either of you have any thoughts

or fandom about either Kurt or

796

:

Patrick that you would like to share?

797

:

Kevin and Eric: Well, we just did one of

our episodes very recently was Red Dawn,

798

:

uh, which is, uh, Patrick Stewart,

or not Patrick Stewart Swayze?

799

:

Charlie Sheen.

800

:

Similar, similar type.

801

:

Oh yeah, definitely similar types.

802

:

I'm a big fan of, uh, of Patrick Swayze.

803

:

I've Liked him.

804

:

I think I saw him in Dirty Dancing

originally was the first place.

805

:

I saw him actually I grew up.

806

:

Not really a big Patrick

Swayze guy I think I love the

807

:

outsiders And I love point break.

808

:

Oh, and I didn't really watch

any of his other movies.

809

:

I was to this day I've

never seen Dirty Dancing.

810

:

Katie: my

811

:

Kevin and Eric: to admit but I

have discovered some of his other

812

:

stuff like, Red Dawn and Roadhouse.

813

:

I didn't watch somehow even though

Roadhouse is like You an incredible

814

:

like night with the guys viewing

815

:

experience now,

816

:

you

817

:

know,

818

:

Katie: I'm a chick and I love it.

819

:

Kevin and Eric: the remake or

whatever that looks not great, but

820

:

I encourage everyone to just put on

the Patrick Swayze version again.

821

:

Although I was going to say I was

just a big Kurt Russell guy though.

822

:

Oh yeah, for sure.

823

:

I was all over his stuff.

824

:

I made myself a little list.

825

:

Cause I didn't want to forget anything.

826

:

The thing is my favorite

Russell movie, amazing

827

:

tombstone, Which you've covered and

I've listened to that, that episode,

828

:

I love tombstone backdraft.

829

:

I loved, have

830

:

you done backdraft yet?

831

:

Katie: yeah, yeah.

832

:

Kevin and Eric: Are

you working through the

833

:

movies chronologically

834

:

Katie: No, it's not chronological.

835

:

It's guest pick.

836

:

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

837

:

Okay.

838

:

And then obviously the, but he's

had this like, Oh, he had what?

839

:

Escape from New York.

840

:

Amazing.

841

:

His like great relationship

with with John Carpenter.

842

:

Yeah.

843

:

Big trouble in

844

:

little

845

:

China.

846

:

Yeah.

847

:

Amazing.

848

:

And then his, but he

keeps his career going.

849

:

It's incredible.

850

:

Like he's found this new career

with James Gunn and and Tarantino

851

:

doing the, the Marvel movies

852

:

doing, um, Hateful Eight, as we

mentioned, and that sort of stuff.

853

:

I love Kurt Russell.

854

:

I think he's awesome.

855

:

When he was recently in a Monarch on Apple

856

:

TV, which was that, The Godzilla tv

show and he was phenomenal in that

857

:

too and it is Disconcerting how

much his son looks like him a Wyatt.

858

:

Yeah Wyatt was also in that show playing

859

:

the younger version of

860

:

kurt russell

861

:

and it

862

:

is like yeah.

863

:

Okay.

864

:

Well, yeah, that's true That is exactly

what he looked like for our audience.

865

:

I should also mention tango and cash.

866

:

Yes, of

867

:

course, which is like

868

:

Katie: I mean.

869

:

Kevin and Eric: bad movie, but it's so

fun to watch And it is the one and only

870

:

time that I know of that you get to see

kurt russell in drag You Which is great.

871

:

Yeah.

872

:

Katie: So they both done

drag, Patrick and Kurt.

873

:

Kevin and Eric: I

874

:

haven't seen that.

875

:

I haven't seen that Swayze

876

:

Katie: oh, it's good.

877

:

It's

878

:

it's actually really good.

879

:

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

880

:

That's right here.

881

:

Katie: yeah they all 3

of the guys are it's.

882

:

It was 95.

883

:

it's quite impressive.

884

:

Yeah.

885

:

Kevin and Eric: it was Patrick

Swayze and John Leguizamo, or no, it

886

:

was um, Wesley

887

:

Snipes,

888

:

Katie: Yeah, those 3

889

:

Kevin and Eric: it was.

890

:

John Leguizamo.

891

:

Okay, I am remembering it correctly.

892

:

Okay, cool.

893

:

Okay.

894

:

Katie: Yeah, they were really good.

895

:

I really liked the shower scene in Tango

and Cash because we got Kurt and Sly.

896

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

897

:

Hitting all the buttons for you.

898

:

That was such a, that's a weird

scene, but yeah, I love It I love

899

:

Katie: went on far too long.

900

:

Kevin and Eric: you get to

see side by side asses, right?

901

:

yeah,

902

:

Both full rear nudity.

903

:

Stereo asses

904

:

for you.

905

:

Katie: I quite enjoyed it.

906

:

Kevin and Eric: Good.

907

:

That was one of the funnier

scenes in the movie.

908

:

They're gonna remaster that

909

:

scene

910

:

in 5.

911

:

1 when it's on Blu ray.

912

:

Katie: Stallone

913

:

is not shy about showing his, his

914

:

Kevin and Eric: His ass ass?

915

:

Katie: Yeah.

916

:

Yeah.

917

:

Yeah.

918

:

He's not shy about that.

919

:

Now I clearly think that Kurt and Patrick

resemble each other and have similarities.

920

:

Do you?

921

:

Kevin and Eric: They both

had awesome heads of hair.

922

:

Katie: Mm

923

:

Kevin and Eric: I know that's true.

924

:

I don't know if I Pick them

out of a lineup and think

925

:

they look all that similar.

926

:

But they were both just

927

:

very handsome, rugged kind

of, every man looking dudes.

928

:

Yeah, for sure.

929

:

For sure.

930

:

I think Kurt Russell came into his age a

little bit better than Patrick Swayze did.

931

:

I think he was able to pivot

better than Patrick Swayze did.

932

:

I mean, by the time I saw

Swayze in Black Dog, he.

933

:

He definitely felt like he was past

his peak by that point and was he

934

:

suffering from his cancer by then?

935

:

I don't remember.

936

:

He might have been secretly ill already.

937

:

I don't know when that started Yeah,

but I think as an action star, I feel

938

:

like Kurt Russell Probably brought

it a little bit stronger than Swayze.

939

:

Although I mean you can't ever understate

Roadhouse or Point Break, in my opinion.

940

:

I mean, those are both just

point break is a cut stone all

941

:

time or action movie for sure.

942

:

And for me, that's my favorite Swayze, uh,

that, you know, he's got that leadership,

943

:

the natural leader thing that he does

944

:

so

945

:

well in so many movies and like every

guy, I feel like wanted to be him.

946

:

And, and Point Break for sure.

947

:

Yeah.

948

:

I guess I'd have to say probably

Roadhouse is my favorite Swayze.

949

:

Oh, we have, we have a series

of episodes on all these movies

950

:

also, by the way, on our podcast.

951

:

So if you love these type of movies,

come check out the Roadhouse episodes

952

:

or, or Point Break or Big Trouble in

Little China or Red Dawn, Red Dawn.

953

:

Absolutely.

954

:

Katie: and I have a bonus episode

covering the remake of Roadhouse.

955

:

So I covered Roadhouse.

956

:

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

957

:

Okay.

958

:

I have

959

:

Katie: listeners, check out the bonus

episode of that if you haven't already.

960

:

And Kevin, you need to

watch Dirty Dancing.

961

:

It's fucking great.

962

:

Kevin and Eric: I feel like I

feel like I've seen it before

963

:

just from like it's in the ether.

964

:

You know, it's like a part

of the pop culture zeitgeist.

965

:

But yes, I do need to

watch it because why not?

966

:

And I, as was covered on our

episodes on Red Dawn, I think

967

:

Jennifer Grey was really cute.

968

:

So, I need to check, I need

969

:

to check that out.

970

:

Katie: identical, like

literally she looks identical in

971

:

Kevin and Eric: it must have

been like almost the next

972

:

thing.

973

:

Like, for them after that.

974

:

But, yeah.

975

:

Alright, I'll check it out for sure.

976

:

For you.

977

:

Katie: Thank you.

978

:

Report back, please.

979

:

All right, shall we get

into the movie Stargate?

980

:

Kevin and Eric: Ooh, I'm ready for it.

981

:

I'm ready for it.

982

:

Katie: Okay, so it was like 2 hours long,

it's PG 13, it has an IMDb rating of 7.

983

:

Which I'm shocked by that,

984

:

Kevin and Eric: Does

that, seem low to you?

985

:

It should be higher?

986

:

Katie: No.

987

:

Mm mm.

988

:

Kevin and Eric: you

don't, you don't like it?

989

:

Oh, really?

990

:

Oh, I loved this movie.

991

:

Yeah.

992

:

When it came out, I feel it

993

:

was made just for me.

994

:

Yeah,

995

:

I love It

996

:

Katie: definitely not made for Katie.

997

:

Kevin and Eric: Interesting, okay.

998

:

Hair

999

:

off?

:

00:36:35,025 --> 00:36:35,375

Is it because

:

00:36:35,375 --> 00:36:35,405

Is

:

00:36:35,405 --> 00:36:37,475

it because Kurt chopped his hair off?

:

00:36:37,595 --> 00:36:39,305

Katie: Kurt looks handsome in it.

:

00:36:39,395 --> 00:36:39,675

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

:

00:36:39,785 --> 00:36:41,455

Katie: mean, he looks

handsome in anything.

:

00:36:41,765 --> 00:36:45,750

Well, first We'll get to it,

but the first scene of him, he

:

00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:48,040

has long and it's blonde hair

:

00:36:48,525 --> 00:36:48,685

Kevin and Eric: It

:

00:36:48,685 --> 00:36:51,415

was his, I feel like it was his

tombstone hair still the way his

:

00:36:51,415 --> 00:36:52,765

hair was at the end of Tombstone.

:

00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,190

Katie: but it was blonde,

:

00:36:54,275 --> 00:36:54,815

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, there's

:

00:36:54,815 --> 00:36:56,265

a strange choice to go blonde.

:

00:36:56,660 --> 00:36:57,140

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:36:57,830 --> 00:37:02,480

, and then he's in his like military

outfit with his brain crew cut.

:

00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,630

He, I mean, Kurt looked super

handsome in it, but this, this movie.

:

00:37:07,255 --> 00:37:10,095

Not for Katie, so I'm spoiling it,

I'm going to read the description

:

00:37:10,105 --> 00:37:15,895

in case people haven't seen it since

94, or if you haven't ever seen it.

:

00:37:17,085 --> 00:37:21,785

It sounds pretty

interesting Egyptologist Dr.

:

00:37:21,785 --> 00:37:25,115

Daniel Jackson is brought to an

underground military base where

:

00:37:25,115 --> 00:37:29,555

he decodes the symbols on Egyptian

cover stones as constellations.

:

00:37:30,025 --> 00:37:36,325

That allows an alien device known as

the Stargate to be opened and a team led

:

00:37:36,325 --> 00:37:43,615

by Air Force Colonel Jack O'Neill, Kurt

Russell, and Jackson to travel across

:

00:37:44,055 --> 00:37:46,495

the known universe to a distant planet.

:

00:37:46,725 --> 00:37:50,175

Arriving on the planet, they find a

culture ruled by someone pretending

:

00:37:50,675 --> 00:37:53,125

to be the Egyptian sun god, Ra.

:

00:37:53,625 --> 00:37:57,325

Soon, Ra captures the team and

takes control of a nuclear weapon.

:

00:37:57,605 --> 00:38:01,415

Rod to the planet in case of the

discovery of hostile aliens, Jackson

:

00:38:01,425 --> 00:38:04,865

and O'Neill escape and must fight

raw and his army of warriors to save

:

00:38:04,955 --> 00:38:07,185

earth from being destroyed by raw.

:

00:38:07,415 --> 00:38:08,975

That sounds like a lot going on in

:

00:38:09,125 --> 00:38:09,595

Kevin and Eric: Oh Yeah.

:

00:38:09,735 --> 00:38:10,715

it's a lot, yeah.

:

00:38:10,805 --> 00:38:11,155

Yeah.

:

00:38:11,705 --> 00:38:12,485

Katie: Sure is.

:

00:38:13,225 --> 00:38:14,065

So,

:

00:38:14,165 --> 00:38:14,395

Kevin and Eric: Is that

:

00:38:14,395 --> 00:38:14,445

what

:

00:38:14,445 --> 00:38:17,325

Katie: It, it was a mess I thought,

:

00:38:17,445 --> 00:38:19,395

Kevin and Eric: Like triple

mumbo jumbo on that one?

:

00:38:20,005 --> 00:38:21,325

Katie: But it did make a lot of money.

:

00:38:21,385 --> 00:38:23,335

It was kind of like a surprise hit.

:

00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:27,635

It was 55 million budget

and it grossed 197 million.

:

00:38:27,635 --> 00:38:30,095

So I would say pretty successful.

:

00:38:30,495 --> 00:38:31,285

Kevin and Eric: Very much, yeah.

:

00:38:32,515 --> 00:38:36,265

Katie: The direct director he's

a German director, Roland Emish.

:

00:38:36,805 --> 00:38:37,295

Kevin and Eric: Emmerich.

:

00:38:37,775 --> 00:38:38,345

Katie: Emrich.

:

00:38:38,375 --> 00:38:38,645

Okay.

:

00:38:38,645 --> 00:38:39,305

Thank you.

:

00:38:39,485 --> 00:38:41,345

So he, he's like a blockbuster guy.

:

00:38:42,005 --> 00:38:42,475

Kevin and Eric: Oh yeah.

:

00:38:42,875 --> 00:38:45,215

Katie: You know, Day

After Tomorrow, Godzilla,

:

00:38:45,495 --> 00:38:46,175

Independence Day the

:

00:38:46,245 --> 00:38:46,675

Kevin and Eric: Day.

:

00:38:47,995 --> 00:38:49,725

Yeah, Independence Day

was the big one, right?

:

00:38:49,725 --> 00:38:50,355

Yeah, that's his

:

00:38:50,385 --> 00:38:50,715

peak.

:

00:38:51,555 --> 00:38:54,035

And Universal Soldier that

he did right before this.

:

00:38:54,035 --> 00:38:54,885

A Van Damme.

:

00:38:54,895 --> 00:38:55,405

That's right.

:

00:38:55,455 --> 00:38:55,575

And

:

00:38:55,575 --> 00:38:56,865

Lundgren movie.

:

00:38:56,995 --> 00:38:57,325

Katie: ooh.

:

00:38:58,305 --> 00:38:58,615

Kevin and Eric: That was

:

00:38:58,615 --> 00:38:59,375

a good one.

:

00:38:59,875 --> 00:39:02,355

Katie: I, so they're both super handsome.

:

00:39:02,435 --> 00:39:04,385

I am shocked I haven't

seen that movie yet.

:

00:39:04,595 --> 00:39:05,285

Kevin and Eric: Oh, yeah.

:

00:39:05,285 --> 00:39:05,845

Check it out.

:

00:39:05,845 --> 00:39:07,285

It's a pretty Well, I don't know.

:

00:39:07,285 --> 00:39:08,685

If you didn't like this,

you might not like it.

:

00:39:08,735 --> 00:39:11,350

Because it's another sort

of sci fi Action thing's.

:

00:39:11,350 --> 00:39:12,100

They're pretty good.

:

00:39:12,105 --> 00:39:14,800

There's, there's a lot of like nudity

in it, if I remember correctly.

:

00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,220

There is

:

00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:16,000

some, there's some

:

00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,240

mass

:

00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:17,105

in that one, so I, I

:

00:39:17,105 --> 00:39:18,525

Katie: like Dolph and Van Damme.

:

00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:20,580

Kevin and Eric: Vanda,

I think probably Vanda,

:

00:39:20,910 --> 00:39:22,320

I don't remember Dolph getting there.

:

00:39:22,325 --> 00:39:26,670

They had a weird, they're these like

these preserved soldiers and they have

:

00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:29,340

to stay cool or cold to they, they

:

00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:30,930

overheat really easily or something.

:

00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:32,506

So I feel like he gets naked and gets an.

:

00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:34,420

Backup full of ice or something.

:

00:39:35,375 --> 00:39:35,875

Katie: okay.

:

00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,330

Kevin and Eric: So Yeah.

:

00:39:36,330 --> 00:39:37,490

just, you know, Yeah.

:

00:39:37,490 --> 00:39:39,100

Giving you incentive

more than anything else.

:

00:39:39,445 --> 00:39:42,835

Katie: I, I am shocked because I

do, I am a fan of both of theirs.

:

00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,260

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

:

00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:43,460

Yeah.

:

00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:44,320

Check that one out.,

:

00:39:44,825 --> 00:39:51,545

Katie: so, speaking of universal soldier,

Dean Devlin was 1 of the writers along

:

00:39:51,555 --> 00:39:53,395

with the director was also a writer.

:

00:39:53,835 --> 00:39:56,020

And he also, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,320

Because he also did Independence Day

and Godzilla and Universal Soldier.

:

00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,960

So, yeah, team up there.

:

00:40:01,450 --> 00:40:06,120

And the music guy was , also kind

of like the whole trio of a, team

:

00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,580

up there because David Arnold

did the music for this movie.

:

00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:18,410

He also did Independence Day and Godzilla,

but he also did 5 James Bond films, which

:

00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:20,130

seems like a very different type of.

:

00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:22,350

Kevin and Eric: What era

of James Bond was that?

:

00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:23,850

Like he was the era.

:

00:40:23,850 --> 00:40:24,800

Yeah.

:

00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,830

He actually, like his score for tomorrow

never dies is still my favorite take

:

00:40:28,830 --> 00:40:30,460

on the James Bond theme, actually.

:

00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:33,950

I was, I was a huge David Arnold fan.

:

00:40:34,245 --> 00:40:38,105

Back in the day when I was a kid, I

loved movie soundtracks and I would

:

00:40:38,105 --> 00:40:41,205

buy all movie soundtracks on, on, CD.

:

00:40:41,235 --> 00:40:45,575

And every time David Arnold would score

a movie, I would immediately buy the

:

00:40:45,575 --> 00:40:49,915

the soundtrack score because he was one

of my favorite composers of that era.

:

00:40:50,245 --> 00:40:53,865

The, the music for this movie, I feel

like is the best thing about this movie.

:

00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:55,365

The music was so good.

:

00:40:55,455 --> 00:40:55,705

Yeah.

:

00:40:55,735 --> 00:40:56,165

Epic.

:

00:40:56,205 --> 00:40:56,655

Like

:

00:40:57,180 --> 00:40:57,500

Katie: 100

:

00:40:57,605 --> 00:40:59,485

Kevin and Eric: like

Lawrence of Arabia ish.

:

00:40:59,645 --> 00:40:59,935

Yeah.

:

00:40:59,935 --> 00:41:02,185

It was, it goes so good with

the visuals and all that.

:

00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:05,000

That's fair.

:

00:41:05,620 --> 00:41:07,280

Katie: I was unfamiliar with him.

:

00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,310

I'm, I'm not familiar with David Arnold.

:

00:41:09,850 --> 00:41:12,820

Now, of course, if Kurt Russell

wasn't in this, I would have

:

00:41:12,830 --> 00:41:14,160

zero interest in watching it.

:

00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,230

But even he couldn't save it.

:

00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:19,730

This is the first movie on

the show that I don't like.

:

00:41:19,925 --> 00:41:20,745

Kevin and Eric: Wow.

:

00:41:20,755 --> 00:41:21,225

Okay.

:

00:41:21,275 --> 00:41:25,865

I mean, I don't know if I speak

for like 13 year old boys, I

:

00:41:25,865 --> 00:41:27,745

loved this movie when it came out.

:

00:41:27,825 --> 00:41:31,055

I was so excited when it was on the

horizon when it was coming soon.

:

00:41:31,285 --> 00:41:33,925

I know I saw this movie in theaters

and I know that I loved it.

:

00:41:33,925 --> 00:41:35,305

I might've seen it a couple of times.

:

00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:36,810

Katie: It makes no sense.

:

00:41:37,665 --> 00:41:38,415

Kevin and Eric: honestly,

:

00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,210

Katie: it's so all over the place.

:

00:41:40,225 --> 00:41:44,575

Kevin and Eric: it is, I know, but it's

got like Egyptian aliens and it's got

:

00:41:44,575 --> 00:41:50,515

guns shooting and it's got rebellion

and explosions and really cool masks

:

00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,195

and sets and all that kind of stuff.

:

00:41:52,195 --> 00:41:57,415

I mean, it is a mishmash of, I feel like a

lot of other movies that were already out,

:

00:41:57,965 --> 00:41:58,655

you know, like I

:

00:41:58,655 --> 00:42:01,930

felt like it was Indiana

Jones crossed with the abyss.

:

00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:02,980

Which I

:

00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:04,180

loved, uh, the James

:

00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:07,860

Cameron movie maybe crossed with a

little dash of Jurassic Park and a little

:

00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:09,780

bit of Dune which is a big hit right

:

00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:13,670

now like But yeah, those are

all ingredients that I love.

:

00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:16,730

So maybe I was just predisposed to like

:

00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,990

Katie: Now, I clearly am

not the audience for this.

:

00:42:19,020 --> 00:42:21,050

I am not a sci fi person.

:

00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,990

Like, I don't care

:

00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,390

Kevin and Eric: that's

:

00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:23,920

fair.

:

00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:27,190

Katie: fi, but I love Egypt stuff.

:

00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,830

I'm very fascinated by Egypt.

:

00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:31,550

I was supposed to go like a couple

years ago and and now it's probably

:

00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:35,860

not the best time to go, but yeah,

I love Egypt and I love Kurt.

:

00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:37,180

James Spader is in this,

:

00:42:37,470 --> 00:42:38,860

Kevin and Eric: Oh, I love James Spader.

:

00:42:39,070 --> 00:42:39,410

Yeah,

:

00:42:39,460 --> 00:42:43,450

I'm a huge James Spader fan Kevin not

so much actually I don't I don't get it.

:

00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:45,690

Whatever he whatever it is about him.

:

00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:46,230

I just don't get it

:

00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,555

Katie: Yeah, I, he's Lukewarm for me.

:

00:42:49,975 --> 00:42:52,925

And so neither one of these, okay.

:

00:42:52,925 --> 00:42:55,295

So Kurt and James, neither one

of them wanted to do this movie.

:

00:42:55,465 --> 00:42:56,735

They read the script and

they were like, this is

:

00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:59,140

Kevin and Eric: I read . I read that too.

:

00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:01,750

It sounded like everyone thought

they were working on a bad movie.

:

00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:02,850

And then for me it

:

00:43:02,850 --> 00:43:03,030

came

:

00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:03,600

out pretty good.

:

00:43:03,630 --> 00:43:03,870

Yeah.

:

00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:04,050

For

:

00:43:04,055 --> 00:43:08,375

Katie: Well, I, I think action

sci fi, like I can see why 13 year

:

00:43:08,375 --> 00:43:11,705

old boys would like it, but I just

don't think it was well executed.

:

00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:14,395

There were, they threw way

too many things in the pot.

:

00:43:14,845 --> 00:43:17,545

And it was hard to

follow in my opinion, but

:

00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,960

Kevin and Eric: they were

like ahead of the curve.

:

00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,760

I feel like on the whole ancient aliens,

sort of aliens built the pyramids thing.

:

00:43:23,765 --> 00:43:28,650

I had never, that was brand new for me

in 94 and now I feel like it's, there's

:

00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,810

four different TV shows about that.

:

00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:31,620

Yeah.

:

00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,070

Yeah.

:

00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:35,280

And again, when I was, when I was

13 watching this come out, I was

:

00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,870

not watching it from the narrative.

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00:43:37,215 --> 00:43:38,945

I was watching it for the explosions.

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00:43:39,065 --> 00:43:42,255

I mean, there's no, I mean, I full,

full, full disclosure on that one.

:

00:43:42,265 --> 00:43:42,305

That's

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00:43:42,305 --> 00:43:42,635

fair.

:

00:43:42,855 --> 00:43:43,205

yeah,

:

00:43:44,685 --> 00:43:46,345

Katie: that that totally makes sense.

:

00:43:46,375 --> 00:43:49,205

And for me, it was like, that

this there's too much to follow.

:

00:43:49,205 --> 00:43:50,135

It doesn't make sense.

:

00:43:50,155 --> 00:43:53,065

But you guys, so we have Kurt Russell.

:

00:43:53,245 --> 00:43:56,745

I'm going to get through the, the

cast before we continue our discussion

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00:43:56,785 --> 00:43:58,045

so that it makes more sense.

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00:43:58,775 --> 00:44:00,075

So he is Colonel.

:

00:44:00,350 --> 00:44:07,110

Jack O'Neill, James Spader plays

like a, like a linguist, Dr.

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00:44:08,115 --> 00:44:08,875

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:10,070

Katie: Dr.

:

00:44:10,070 --> 00:44:15,250

Daniel Jackson, Jay, is it Jay or Jai

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00:44:15,515 --> 00:44:17,165

Kevin and Eric: It's Jai Jai Courtney.

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00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,520

Katie: Jai

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00:44:18,695 --> 00:44:19,545

Kevin and Eric: No, it is Jai.

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00:44:20,095 --> 00:44:20,945

I don't know what it is.

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00:44:20,945 --> 00:44:21,755

It's not Courtney.

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00:44:21,755 --> 00:44:22,385

It's Davidson.

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00:44:22,885 --> 00:44:23,665

Oh, Jai.

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00:44:24,055 --> 00:44:24,805

Oh, Jai Courtney.

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00:44:24,805 --> 00:44:24,995

Yeah.

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00:44:24,995 --> 00:44:25,245

Yeah.

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00:44:25,245 --> 00:44:25,615

I'm sorry.

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00:44:25,615 --> 00:44:28,935

I'm thinking about that guy who played

Captain Boomerang in Suicide Squad.

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00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:31,750

Katie: I don't

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00:44:31,765 --> 00:44:33,395

Kevin and Eric: That

was a weird diversion.

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00:44:33,395 --> 00:44:34,465

I apologize.

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00:44:34,650 --> 00:44:36,980

Katie: It's spelled J A Y E.

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00:44:36,990 --> 00:44:37,850

So I wasn't sure if it was

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00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:39,280

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, it is Jay.

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00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,940

A guy from The Crying Game.

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00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:42,060

Yeah, it is, it

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00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:42,710

is Jay.

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00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,590

Who didn't want to do

this movie either, right?

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00:44:45,010 --> 00:44:50,590

Katie: Well, he, what's funny is he

has no acting, like he was spotted.

:

00:44:50,590 --> 00:44:55,000

He wasn't an actor and he was

kind of a diva on set apparently.

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00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:57,100

And then he retired

from acting after this,

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00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,380

Kevin and Eric: this, was the

last feature film he ever did.

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00:44:59,490 --> 00:44:59,870

Katie: Yeah.

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00:45:00,550 --> 00:45:05,020

But he was nominated for an Oscar for

crying game, but yeah, it's that guy.

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00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:06,150

Kevin and Eric: I

:

00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:08,060

also, did you read the thing

about the nipple rings?

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00:45:08,060 --> 00:45:08,490

Or is that

:

00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:09,620

should we talk about that now or

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00:45:10,095 --> 00:45:11,505

Katie: have at it, have at it, yeah.

:

00:45:11,890 --> 00:45:14,190

Kevin and Eric: That they had to film

him from the shoulders up or something

:

00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:15,510

because he wouldn't take his nipple rings

:

00:45:15,515 --> 00:45:18,545

Katie: Well, that's why

that outfit came up to here.

:

00:45:18,580 --> 00:45:19,170

Kevin and Eric: Yeah,

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00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,060

on the one shot

:

00:45:20,060 --> 00:45:20,170

where

:

00:45:20,170 --> 00:45:22,250

he's like shielding his

eyes from the the ship.

:

00:45:22,250 --> 00:45:25,380

You can see gaffer's tape

on his Covering his nipples.

:

00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,960

Yeah, whatever so strange.

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00:45:26,970 --> 00:45:27,190

It's just

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00:45:27,405 --> 00:45:31,725

Katie: he hated the outfits, I read

that during takes, he like took them

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00:45:31,725 --> 00:45:37,755

off and walked naked then to his trailer

because he just couldn't stand the

:

00:45:38,125 --> 00:45:38,735

Kevin and Eric: Yeah

:

00:45:39,525 --> 00:45:41,645

Katie: and that he couldn't

remember his lines.

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00:45:42,085 --> 00:45:43,445

So he had to read off cue cards.

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00:45:43,955 --> 00:45:45,355

Kevin and Eric: And he got

paid like a million dollars or

:

00:45:45,355 --> 00:45:46,045

something for this.

:

00:45:46,785 --> 00:45:49,495

That he didn't want to do it and he

made an outrageous demand for a million

:

00:45:49,495 --> 00:45:51,055

dollar salary and they said okay.

:

00:45:51,195 --> 00:45:51,935

Wow.

:

00:45:52,805 --> 00:45:53,335

Yeah.

:

00:45:53,435 --> 00:45:54,485

I mean if you're gonna get offered that.

:

00:45:54,485 --> 00:45:55,155

kind of money.

:

00:45:55,245 --> 00:45:55,675

Yeah,

:

00:45:55,705 --> 00:45:56,325

crazy though.

:

00:45:56,655 --> 00:45:57,485

Katie: similar with Kurt.

:

00:45:57,485 --> 00:45:59,405

They just kept giving him more

and more money until he was

:

00:45:59,415 --> 00:46:01,185

like, I did think this is weird.

:

00:46:01,195 --> 00:46:02,995

This doesn't seem like a Kurt movie.

:

00:46:03,575 --> 00:46:04,085

Like that.

:

00:46:04,405 --> 00:46:07,415

Kevin and Eric: Okay, but I do feel like

this part was kind of perfect for him.

:

00:46:08,125 --> 00:46:08,185

I

:

00:46:08,185 --> 00:46:10,585

thought he was just perfect

for his His his energy.

:

00:46:10,595 --> 00:46:12,305

His rough guy, kind of gruff.

:

00:46:12,595 --> 00:46:13,095

Yeah.

:

00:46:13,125 --> 00:46:14,965

No nonsense soldier.

:

00:46:16,375 --> 00:46:17,805

But I think he I also read that he

:

00:46:17,805 --> 00:46:20,435

went, like, straight from the

set from Tombstone, which was

:

00:46:20,435 --> 00:46:21,795

only, like, 100 miles away.

:

00:46:21,965 --> 00:46:23,805

Like, straight into making this movie.

:

00:46:24,455 --> 00:46:28,175

And he was in a bad mood because Tombstone

had been such a disastrous production.

:

00:46:29,355 --> 00:46:30,505

, Katie: that doesn't surprise me.

:

00:46:30,545 --> 00:46:34,435

I think it was in Yuma, Arizona

is where they filmed this, like

:

00:46:34,475 --> 00:46:37,065

the desert y like conditions.

:

00:46:37,095 --> 00:46:40,235

James Spader admitted fully

that this was for a paycheck.

:

00:46:40,245 --> 00:46:42,095

He said he hated the script,

it was horrible, but he's

:

00:46:42,095 --> 00:46:44,135

like, I need some effing money.

:

00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:47,030

Apparently that's what James Spader said.

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00:46:47,235 --> 00:46:47,955

Kevin and Eric: mean, respect.

:

00:46:47,975 --> 00:46:48,555

Look, acting

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00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:48,850

Katie: It's a

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00:46:49,375 --> 00:46:50,255

Kevin and Eric: you know, right?

:

00:46:50,645 --> 00:46:50,825

Yeah.

:

00:46:50,855 --> 00:46:51,105

Yeah.

:

00:46:52,310 --> 00:46:53,420

Katie: I thought he was pretty good in it.

:

00:46:53,470 --> 00:46:55,800

Younger than I was expecting him to look.

:

00:46:55,810 --> 00:46:59,820

He had good long hair and glasses and

like a young, I guess I'm not used

:

00:46:59,820 --> 00:47:02,730

to seeing like a young James Spader.

:

00:47:03,155 --> 00:47:06,365

Kevin and Eric: Was he in, was it

white heat with Susan Sarandon?

:

00:47:06,375 --> 00:47:07,625

He was like a brat Packer.

:

00:47:07,635 --> 00:47:07,935

Yeah.

:

00:47:07,935 --> 00:47:08,625

He was like

:

00:47:08,625 --> 00:47:09,415

an eighties teen

:

00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:10,700

Katie: adjacent.

:

00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:12,440

He was in was it Pretty in Pink?

:

00:47:13,025 --> 00:47:13,345

Kevin and Eric: Yes.

:

00:47:13,355 --> 00:47:15,135

He Was in some of those

movies back then for

:

00:47:15,135 --> 00:47:15,695

sure.

:

00:47:16,395 --> 00:47:19,595

found myself wishing that it had

been, I found myself wishing it had

:

00:47:19,595 --> 00:47:21,355

been Val Kilmer play in that part.

:

00:47:21,915 --> 00:47:23,385

I think he could have

been the scientist guy.

:

00:47:23,385 --> 00:47:25,055

Put some, put some glasses on him.

:

00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:27,920

And like, he could play the

intellectual type of guy.

:

00:47:28,490 --> 00:47:29,980

Katie: he could have

played Kurt's role too.

:

00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:31,410

They have a similar energy.

:

00:47:31,470 --> 00:47:31,770

I feel

:

00:47:31,780 --> 00:47:34,330

Kevin and Eric: have brought the

whole Tombstone cast over and

:

00:47:34,330 --> 00:47:35,870

just done this movie right after.

:

00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:36,900

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:47:37,630 --> 00:47:38,140

Yes.

:

00:47:38,250 --> 00:47:38,930

Good point.

:

00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,870

So the next, the Catherine was

the, the lady who convinced Dr.

:

00:47:43,870 --> 00:47:45,960

Jackson to come translate.

:

00:47:47,005 --> 00:47:52,905

She won an Emmy for her guest role on an

episode of Life Goes On and she played

:

00:47:52,905 --> 00:48:00,285

Paula in The Way We Were and the lady

I'm talking about is Vivica Lindfors and

:

00:48:00,325 --> 00:48:04,855

she plays a Swedish woman in the movie

and she's actually Swedish in real life.

:

00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,020

Kevin and Eric: Okay, we were trying

to figure out what ethnicity she was

:

00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:09,160

supposed to be when we were watching it.

:

00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,780

Yeah, I thought she was French

or something, but Swedish.

:

00:48:11,330 --> 00:48:11,650

Okay.

:

00:48:11,650 --> 00:48:11,900

Yeah, Swedish.

:

00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,310

Okay, that answers a question.

:

00:48:13,330 --> 00:48:14,020

Thank you.

:

00:48:14,505 --> 00:48:14,915

Katie: Yes.

:

00:48:15,665 --> 00:48:19,405

Alexis Cruz plays Scara, which I

don't really recall them playing.

:

00:48:19,895 --> 00:48:23,145

Saying most of these people's names,

like the villager people, they don't say

:

00:48:23,250 --> 00:48:24,090

Kevin and Eric: Not at all.

:

00:48:24,490 --> 00:48:25,170

Not at all.

:

00:48:25,250 --> 00:48:25,630

He was just

:

00:48:25,630 --> 00:48:26,375

like The of

:

00:48:26,375 --> 00:48:27,805

the young rebel kids.

:

00:48:27,845 --> 00:48:28,315

Yeah.

:

00:48:28,325 --> 00:48:28,345

They

:

00:48:28,850 --> 00:48:29,140

Katie: yes,

:

00:48:30,010 --> 00:48:30,300

that's

:

00:48:30,425 --> 00:48:33,355

Kevin and Eric: were all apparently

like Mexican kids that they, Cast

:

00:48:33,355 --> 00:48:35,575

or whatever, but they all were

like pretty decent, I thought.

:

00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:35,920

Mm-Hmm?

:

00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,230

Katie: Yeah, this kid.

:

00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,140

Well, he's a man now.

:

00:48:38,860 --> 00:48:39,150

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:43,210

Katie: he's not like super well

known, but he had, he's in tons

:

00:48:43,210 --> 00:48:45,030

of TV, like an episode here and

:

00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:47,055

Kevin and Eric: Oh,

oh, Good working actor.

:

00:48:47,110 --> 00:48:47,400

Yeah.

:

00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,500

Katie: And then Milly Avital.

:

00:48:49,895 --> 00:48:52,585

plays the beautiful

woman, the love interest

:

00:48:52,845 --> 00:48:53,475

of Dr.

:

00:48:53,475 --> 00:48:54,425

Daniel Jackson,

:

00:48:54,755 --> 00:48:55,055

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

00:48:55,055 --> 00:48:55,535

Yeah, yeah.

:

00:48:55,540 --> 00:48:55,745

Yeah,

:

00:48:55,745 --> 00:48:56,435

She was lovely.

:

00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:56,770

Mm-Hmm?

:

00:48:56,855 --> 00:48:57,455

. Mm-Hmm?

:

00:48:57,825 --> 00:49:01,835

Katie: is is, she's a lauded Israeli

actress, but not really well known here.

:

00:49:02,195 --> 00:49:03,185

Kevin and Eric: Oh, interesting.

:

00:49:03,215 --> 00:49:03,695

Okay.

:

00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:04,475

I did not know that.

:

00:49:04,475 --> 00:49:05,675

That's like Egypt adjacent.

:

00:49:05,795 --> 00:49:06,095

Yeah.

:

00:49:06,165 --> 00:49:09,495

Katie: Yeah, yeah, very much so,

which is why I'm going to wait

:

00:49:09,835 --> 00:49:10,425

to go

:

00:49:10,460 --> 00:49:10,620

Kevin and Eric: Oh,

:

00:49:10,620 --> 00:49:10,850

yeah.

:

00:49:10,850 --> 00:49:11,100

Yeah.

:

00:49:11,820 --> 00:49:12,420

I don't blame you.

:

00:49:13,085 --> 00:49:15,155

Katie: Leon Rippey plays General West.

:

00:49:15,660 --> 00:49:16,270

Kevin and Eric: Mm hmm.

:

00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:18,300

I know him well from Deadwood.

:

00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,880

Yeah, TV show Deadwood.

:

00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,900

Yeah Yeah, Tom Nuttall.

:

00:49:22,270 --> 00:49:24,950

I went to I went to Deadwood

recently and went to the real

:

00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:27,970

Nuttall saloon wherever Wild Bill

got shot You know, it's kind of cool

:

00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:28,910

Katie: I'm

:

00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:30,390

Kevin and Eric: big, like, Old West guy.

:

00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:32,210

Yeah, Dead Man's Hand.

:

00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,570

Oh, you're watching Deadwood?

:

00:49:34,060 --> 00:49:34,870

Katie: Yeah, I've never seen it

:

00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:36,270

Kevin and Eric: Enjoy, what do you think?

:

00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,450

Katie: I like it a lot.

:

00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:38,820

Kevin and Eric: It's such unique writing.

:

00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,000

The writing style is kind of like,

really obscene or profane Shakespeare.

:

00:49:44,860 --> 00:49:45,270

Yeah.

:

00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,510

Katie: I do like Ian McShane.

:

00:49:48,540 --> 00:49:48,900

Is that

:

00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:51,380

Kevin and Eric: Oh, yeah,

Ian McShane as Swearingen?

:

00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:51,730

Oh my

:

00:49:51,730 --> 00:49:52,090

god.

:

00:49:52,140 --> 00:49:52,400

Yeah,

:

00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:52,650

scenes killer.

:

00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:55,420

What an amazing amazing actor.

:

00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,060

Katie: Who's the oh, what is his name?

:

00:49:58,060 --> 00:49:59,850

One of the hardware store guys.

:

00:50:00,930 --> 00:50:02,610

Kevin and Eric: Timothy

Oli font or The other guy?

:

00:50:02,610 --> 00:50:03,780

The, the guy who runs the store.

:

00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,420

It, it's Star, right?

:

00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:06,260

Um, Hawks.

:

00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:06,770

Yeah.

:

00:50:06,775 --> 00:50:07,340

Hawks not

:

00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:07,760

Star.

:

00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,060

Yeah.

:

00:50:08,090 --> 00:50:10,100

Well, no Star I think is

his character on the show.

:

00:50:10,130 --> 00:50:10,400

Yes.

:

00:50:10,405 --> 00:50:10,760

that's right.

:

00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,600

John Hawks.

:

00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:11,870

Yeah.

:

00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:12,140

Soul

:

00:50:12,145 --> 00:50:12,650

Star.

:

00:50:13,390 --> 00:50:13,660

Yeah.

:

00:50:13,660 --> 00:50:14,500

He's phenomenal,

:

00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:18,090

Katie: He was in the new True Detective.

:

00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:18,840

He's in that

:

00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:19,440

Kevin and Eric: right?

:

00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,851

'cause he, in season four, he was, Yeah.

:

00:50:20,865 --> 00:50:21,155

Okay.

:

00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:21,750

Yeah.

:

00:50:22,170 --> 00:50:22,350

Yeah.

:

00:50:22,350 --> 00:50:22,590

Great

:

00:50:22,590 --> 00:50:24,300

cast on, on Deadwood for sure.

:

00:50:24,330 --> 00:50:24,600

Oh yeah.

:

00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,240

Brad Dorf is a, is a, a passion of mine.

:

00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,110

I love Brad Dorf ever since went through

the Cuckoo's Nest and he, he really

:

00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:32,850

brings it home in Deadwood for me.

:

00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:34,700

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:35,590

I'm enjoying it.

:

00:50:36,325 --> 00:50:36,485

Kevin and Eric: That's

:

00:50:36,505 --> 00:50:36,825

awesome.

:

00:50:36,825 --> 00:50:37,855

Everyone should watch Deadwood.

:

00:50:37,855 --> 00:50:38,055

that's

:

00:50:38,055 --> 00:50:39,025

my, that's like

:

00:50:39,025 --> 00:50:41,375

a top two or three all

time TV show for me for

:

00:50:41,375 --> 00:50:41,695

sure.

:

00:50:43,865 --> 00:50:47,175

Katie: So then with Kurt Russell, that's

the other thing is the only people's

:

00:50:47,185 --> 00:50:51,485

names I know are basically Jackson and Ra.

:

00:50:51,825 --> 00:50:53,985

The rest of the characters

I named the actor.

:

00:50:53,985 --> 00:50:55,115

I'm like Kurt Russell's character.

:

00:50:55,335 --> 00:50:57,755

Kevin and Eric: I couldn't have told

you Kurt Russell's character's name.

:

00:50:57,995 --> 00:50:58,255

No.

:

00:50:58,275 --> 00:50:58,595

He's just

:

00:50:58,595 --> 00:50:59,235

Kurt Russell.

:

00:50:59,255 --> 00:50:59,645

Right.

:

00:51:00,365 --> 00:51:00,485

Katie: So

:

00:51:00,635 --> 00:51:01,025

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

00:51:01,975 --> 00:51:04,935

Katie: Kowalski is one of

Kurt Russell's characters.

:

00:51:04,935 --> 00:51:06,825

He's like one of the other army guy or

:

00:51:07,025 --> 00:51:07,415

Kevin and Eric: Yes.

:

00:51:07,415 --> 00:51:08,005

Yes.

:

00:51:08,335 --> 00:51:09,105

Katie: goes with him.

:

00:51:09,295 --> 00:51:09,675

Kevin and Eric: He I

:

00:51:09,685 --> 00:51:10,615

from action movies.

:

00:51:11,115 --> 00:51:13,175

Katie: he's in a lot of stuff.

:

00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:15,140

He was in Miami Vice.

:

00:51:15,795 --> 00:51:16,585

Kevin and Eric: Really?

:

00:51:16,595 --> 00:51:17,515

The old show,

:

00:51:18,035 --> 00:51:18,355

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:51:18,385 --> 00:51:18,655

Yeah.

:

00:51:18,845 --> 00:51:19,605

Kevin and Eric: Oh wow.

:

00:51:19,995 --> 00:51:20,155

he

:

00:51:20,225 --> 00:51:21,855

He was in Con Air.

:

00:51:22,095 --> 00:51:22,465

Mhmm.

:

00:51:22,535 --> 00:51:24,805

And he was in Kickboxer Part 2.

:

00:51:25,425 --> 00:51:26,245

Katie: oh,

:

00:51:26,955 --> 00:51:30,905

the client, he was in the client

probably 1 of the bigger movies.

:

00:51:30,905 --> 00:51:35,385

. He had a very small part, but

the other lieutenant that they

:

00:51:35,385 --> 00:51:37,725

really showed a lot was for ready.

:

00:51:37,915 --> 00:51:39,005

And that's French Stewart.

:

00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:41,980

Kevin and Eric: And Stuart,

I know, isn't that wacky?

:

00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,270

It's weird casting, I thought.

:

00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:43,820

He doesn't strike

:

00:51:43,820 --> 00:51:44,940

me as a soldier or a

:

00:51:44,940 --> 00:51:45,590

tough guy.

:

00:51:45,855 --> 00:51:48,205

Katie: I didn't recognize

him, but I heard him.

:

00:51:48,205 --> 00:51:50,515

I was like, that's French Stewart.

:

00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:53,640

Kevin and Eric: He's like bullying,

he's bullying James Spader around.

:

00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,480

It was kind of weird.

:

00:51:55,635 --> 00:51:57,655

Katie: this was his film debut, I guess.

:

00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:59,780

Kevin and Eric: Oh, was

he a stand up comic?

:

00:51:59,780 --> 00:52:02,920

We were like, trying to figure

out where he came from before 3rd

:

00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:03,260

Rock.

:

00:52:03,730 --> 00:52:04,140

Yeah.

:

00:52:04,635 --> 00:52:07,115

Katie: but 3rd Rock was like the next year

:

00:52:07,195 --> 00:52:07,995

Kevin and Eric: Yeah,

that's definitely the

:

00:52:07,995 --> 00:52:09,705

role that defines him, right?

:

00:52:09,705 --> 00:52:10,005

I

:

00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:10,630

Katie: It's great.

:

00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:11,510

I love that show.

:

00:52:12,785 --> 00:52:14,785

Kevin and Eric: mean, honestly,

the only other time I can think of

:

00:52:14,785 --> 00:52:19,375

seeing him was in a one off episode

of Community, like, 20 years later.

:

00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:22,900

Katie: Yeah, I don't

know what he did before.

:

00:52:23,425 --> 00:52:25,215

I mean, he was probably in his early 20s

:

00:52:25,475 --> 00:52:25,845

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

00:52:25,885 --> 00:52:26,435

Yeah.

:

00:52:26,915 --> 00:52:27,365

Katie: So

:

00:52:27,635 --> 00:52:27,745

Kevin and Eric: And

:

00:52:27,745 --> 00:52:27,795

he

:

00:52:27,795 --> 00:52:31,425

wasn't, it's, it's interesting that he

wasn't squinty through this whole movie,

:

00:52:31,745 --> 00:52:34,675

given that this movie would have

been perfect for him to be squinty.

:

00:52:35,045 --> 00:52:36,365

Katie: He wasn't squinty.

:

00:52:36,405 --> 00:52:38,545

I totally took note of that too.

:

00:52:38,735 --> 00:52:40,065

That's why I didn't recognize him.

:

00:52:40,065 --> 00:52:40,725

I think I was like.

:

00:52:41,850 --> 00:52:42,760

He has regular eyes.

:

00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:44,230

Now there's two.

:

00:52:44,270 --> 00:52:45,890

I don't know what you

guys would call them.

:

00:52:45,890 --> 00:52:48,270

Roz henchmen

:

00:52:48,655 --> 00:52:48,865

Kevin and Eric: Mm

:

00:52:48,885 --> 00:52:49,185

hmm.

:

00:52:49,235 --> 00:52:49,835

Sure.

:

00:52:50,495 --> 00:52:52,625

Yeah, the henchmen

that's Anubis and Horus,

:

00:52:52,805 --> 00:52:53,215

right?

:

00:52:53,235 --> 00:52:54,235

Yeah, I

:

00:52:54,235 --> 00:52:55,335

recognize the one guy.

:

00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,430

Katie: But yeah, so Anubis not

well known but he as an actor.

:

00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:07,460

His name is Carlos Lauchu and he's an

extremely accomplished martial artist,

:

00:53:07,865 --> 00:53:09,695

Kevin and Eric: Oh, okay Okay,

:

00:53:10,715 --> 00:53:16,105

Katie: but you know, Horace because

he has been Oscar nominated, nominated.

:

00:53:16,925 --> 00:53:17,475

I can't talk.

:

00:53:18,915 --> 00:53:19,595

Kevin and Eric: Jim on honchu.

:

00:53:19,815 --> 00:53:21,625

Katie: is it Gmon, is the D silent?

:

00:53:21,825 --> 00:53:23,955

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, I'm

pretty sure yeah, Jim on honchu.

:

00:53:23,955 --> 00:53:26,695

There's no his gladiators

gladiators buddy and gladiator

:

00:53:26,725 --> 00:53:28,695

Oh, I remember him from Amistad

:

00:53:28,715 --> 00:53:31,745

and I mean he had a small role

in Guardians of the Galaxy.

:

00:53:31,745 --> 00:53:32,235

Awesome.

:

00:53:32,235 --> 00:53:33,945

Yeah Yeah, he's awesome And Blood Diamond.

:

00:53:33,945 --> 00:53:34,455

I remember.

:

00:53:34,455 --> 00:53:34,515

Yeah.

:

00:53:34,515 --> 00:53:34,635

Blood

:

00:53:34,635 --> 00:53:35,290

Diamond was a,

:

00:53:35,375 --> 00:53:35,965

Katie: of those.

:

00:53:36,415 --> 00:53:37,015

Kevin and Eric: yeah.

:

00:53:38,255 --> 00:53:38,735

awesome.

:

00:53:39,015 --> 00:53:41,135

Katie: golden globe nom for Amistad,

:

00:53:41,825 --> 00:53:46,585

and then Oscar noms for both

Blood Diamond and In America.

:

00:53:47,245 --> 00:53:47,965

Kevin and Eric: Oh, that's right.

:

00:53:47,995 --> 00:53:48,025

Okay.

:

00:53:48,025 --> 00:53:48,085

I

:

00:53:48,085 --> 00:53:49,885

totally forgot about that movie.

:

00:53:49,915 --> 00:53:50,605

Yeah, he's awesome.

:

00:53:50,605 --> 00:53:52,375

What a long career he's had.

:

00:53:52,375 --> 00:53:52,376

Yeah.

:

00:53:52,425 --> 00:53:54,675

Katie: I mean, so accomplished, but

:

00:53:54,715 --> 00:53:56,515

Kevin and Eric: still looks

exactly the same . I know.

:

00:53:56,610 --> 00:53:57,990

Katie: same, like 30 or something.

:

00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:58,390

He does.

:

00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:59,430

He looks exactly the same.

:

00:53:59,530 --> 00:54:02,120

He started as a male

model, like he was a model

:

00:54:02,125 --> 00:54:02,845

Kevin and Eric: Oh, interesting.

:

00:54:02,875 --> 00:54:03,625

I could see that.

:

00:54:03,625 --> 00:54:03,895

He's a

:

00:54:03,895 --> 00:54:05,515

very like striking looking man.

:

00:54:05,770 --> 00:54:06,110

Katie: yes.

:

00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:10,390

But he was credited in this

movie without his last name, just

:

00:54:10,525 --> 00:54:12,355

Kevin and Eric: Oh, oh, interesting.

:

00:54:12,355 --> 00:54:13,855

That's like supermodel style.

:

00:54:13,855 --> 00:54:13,915

Yeah.

:

00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:14,960

Katie: It is!

:

00:54:15,335 --> 00:54:17,595

Yeah, like Twiggy or I don't know.

:

00:54:18,435 --> 00:54:19,675

Um, and then I

:

00:54:19,675 --> 00:54:24,375

recognize Kosuf, which is

like the dad of the boy

:

00:54:25,275 --> 00:54:25,835

Kevin and Eric: did too.

:

00:54:25,845 --> 00:54:26,555

You had a great voice.

:

00:54:27,845 --> 00:54:28,945

Katie: He's super well known.

:

00:54:28,945 --> 00:54:31,005

His name is Eric Avari.

:

00:54:31,675 --> 00:54:36,965

He's been in so many things,

but people might recognize him

:

00:54:36,965 --> 00:54:39,355

from the mummy movie, the mummy,

:

00:54:39,865 --> 00:54:41,615

as well as Mr.

:

00:54:41,615 --> 00:54:43,075

Deeds with Adam Sandler.

:

00:54:43,495 --> 00:54:46,035

And then the TV series, The Chosen.

:

00:54:46,365 --> 00:54:47,145

He's in that

:

00:54:47,605 --> 00:54:48,365

Kevin and Eric: I've never seen that.

:

00:54:48,365 --> 00:54:48,805

show.

:

00:54:49,215 --> 00:54:49,755

No.

:

00:54:50,445 --> 00:54:50,905

Okay.

:

00:54:51,415 --> 00:54:52,535

Yeah, very familiar, though.

:

00:54:52,535 --> 00:54:53,995

I feel like I've seen

him in a hundred things.

:

00:54:54,325 --> 00:54:55,385

Katie: super familiar.

:

00:54:55,445 --> 00:54:57,055

I believe he was born in India.

:

00:54:57,715 --> 00:54:58,815

Richard Kind.

:

00:54:58,865 --> 00:54:59,465

Did you guys

:

00:55:00,075 --> 00:55:01,115

Kevin and Eric: Yep, that's right.

:

00:55:01,115 --> 00:55:03,735

Richard Kind is in with a

small role, bringing it home.

:

00:55:03,745 --> 00:55:04,395

Yeah, comedy guy.

:

00:55:05,395 --> 00:55:06,615

Katie: I love him.

:

00:55:06,645 --> 00:55:11,535

You guys, Richard Kind has been

in like everything, but I know him

:

00:55:11,545 --> 00:55:14,015

best as Mark from Mad About You.

:

00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:15,685

Kevin and Eric: Oh, okay.

:

00:55:15,795 --> 00:55:18,635

See, I remember him from,

he was in Spin City, right?

:

00:55:18,845 --> 00:55:19,085

Katie: He was

:

00:55:19,515 --> 00:55:19,955

in Spin

:

00:55:20,225 --> 00:55:21,835

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, that's

where I first saw him.

:

00:55:21,875 --> 00:55:23,645

And I think of him from

Curb Your Enthusiasm.

:

00:55:23,655 --> 00:55:24,015

Yeah,

:

00:55:24,015 --> 00:55:24,275

Curb.

:

00:55:24,865 --> 00:55:25,285

And then obviously

:

00:55:25,365 --> 00:55:26,145

he was the voice of

:

00:55:26,145 --> 00:55:28,685

T Rex in the Toy Story movies as well.

:

00:55:28,915 --> 00:55:29,575

Hilarious

:

00:55:29,575 --> 00:55:29,915

guy.

:

00:55:30,690 --> 00:55:31,710

Yeah, Yeah,

:

00:55:31,955 --> 00:55:34,345

Katie: filmography is, it's crazy long.

:

00:55:35,865 --> 00:55:39,255

Okay, so I've already spoiled

my overall impressions.

:

00:55:39,625 --> 00:55:41,965

So what do you guys think of Stargate?

:

00:55:41,975 --> 00:55:44,495

And do you think a seven

is not high enough?

:

00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,460

Kevin and Eric: I think

7 is just about right.

:

00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,060

Honestly, for me, at least

:

00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:49,850

I agree with that.

:

00:55:49,850 --> 00:55:49,910

I

:

00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,800

think 7 is probably what

I would rank it out of 10.

:

00:55:53,335 --> 00:55:54,065

Katie: really?

:

00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:57,070

Kevin and Eric: was, yeah, it was

just, it delivered on what it promised.

:

00:55:57,660 --> 00:56:00,170

If you're a fan of that sort of Star Wars.

:

00:56:00,725 --> 00:56:02,805

Uh, sci fi adventure type thing.

:

00:56:02,805 --> 00:56:06,505

It was like a, felt like a fresh idea

and the, the visual effects were great.

:

00:56:07,005 --> 00:56:10,265

The production value we were

talking about was, was great.

:

00:56:10,535 --> 00:56:12,845

Like all the epic vistas

and everything like that.

:

00:56:12,845 --> 00:56:13,165

Yeah.

:

00:56:13,225 --> 00:56:13,835

I.

:

00:56:13,965 --> 00:56:14,425

Katie: I agree.

:

00:56:14,975 --> 00:56:18,545

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, I mean, and

again, like I, you know, I, I'm a sucker

:

00:56:18,545 --> 00:56:22,605

for for explosions and it definitely

delivered on the explosion front.

:

00:56:22,955 --> 00:56:23,695

So it worked for there.

:

00:56:23,695 --> 00:56:25,915

I mean, I'll be honest, like

Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin

:

00:56:25,915 --> 00:56:29,545

are never, they've never been known

for their phenomenal screenwriting.

:

00:56:29,545 --> 00:56:29,905

Right.

:

00:56:29,935 --> 00:56:30,965

So that's true.

:

00:56:30,965 --> 00:56:31,305

They're not

:

00:56:31,305 --> 00:56:33,985

like going to win any, any best

pictures or anything like that.

:

00:56:34,125 --> 00:56:35,145

Katie: Oh, certainly not.

:

00:56:35,155 --> 00:56:35,405

No.

:

00:56:35,512 --> 00:56:36,905

Kevin and Eric: here

to do a crowd pleasers.

:

00:56:37,335 --> 00:56:37,985

I guess I just,

:

00:56:38,005 --> 00:56:38,945

I love the

:

00:56:38,955 --> 00:56:41,585

sort of alternate history piece of it.

:

00:56:41,595 --> 00:56:45,345

The idea that the pyramids actually

were from an alien culture.

:

00:56:45,345 --> 00:56:48,405

And weirdly enough, before that

was a thing, I hadn't heard that.

:

00:56:48,695 --> 00:56:49,035

I know.

:

00:56:49,035 --> 00:56:50,055

I don't know if it was.

:

00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:54,990

I read it in the early days of the

internet or what, but I had heard

:

00:56:54,990 --> 00:56:56,640

of this conspiracy either before.

:

00:56:56,910 --> 00:56:58,080

And I really thought it was great.

:

00:56:58,110 --> 00:57:02,420

I thought like the fact that the

pyramids were landing pads for a larger

:

00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:04,410

spaceship, I thought was hilarious.

:

00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:04,520

I

:

00:57:04,625 --> 00:57:04,705

Katie: Well,

:

00:57:05,050 --> 00:57:05,470

Kevin and Eric: so on

:

00:57:05,470 --> 00:57:05,760

board

:

00:57:05,785 --> 00:57:06,835

Katie: I was like, what is going on?

:

00:57:06,835 --> 00:57:07,385

Okay.

:

00:57:07,635 --> 00:57:08,105

Okay.

:

00:57:08,125 --> 00:57:09,355

You guys on

:

00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:12,360

Kevin and Eric: this, was your first

time seeing it was for the podcast?

:

00:57:12,465 --> 00:57:13,375

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:57:13,775 --> 00:57:15,335

Kevin and Eric: Okay, okay, that's there.

:

00:57:15,525 --> 00:57:15,825

Maybe

:

00:57:15,825 --> 00:57:16,995

it didn't age well.

:

00:57:17,185 --> 00:57:21,065

Katie: I don't have the nostalgia,

so I can, I do recognize that that's

:

00:57:21,065 --> 00:57:22,595

probably adding to your enjoyment

:

00:57:22,675 --> 00:57:23,535

Kevin and Eric: Oh so much.

:

00:57:23,535 --> 00:57:25,485

So yeah, no question Yeah, yeah

:

00:57:25,855 --> 00:57:26,145

Katie: but the

:

00:57:26,255 --> 00:57:27,635

Kevin and Eric: me right

back to like middle school.

:

00:57:27,635 --> 00:57:28,015

Yeah

:

00:57:28,625 --> 00:57:32,335

Katie: Yes, there was like the

conspiracy theory about the aliens

:

00:57:32,395 --> 00:57:36,005

and the pyramid, but this movie,

I, I didn't come away with that.

:

00:57:36,305 --> 00:57:40,765

They said that it's a replica

this planet that they go to has

:

00:57:40,815 --> 00:57:42,885

an exact replica of the pyramids

:

00:57:43,215 --> 00:57:43,905

on our

:

00:57:44,075 --> 00:57:44,635

Kevin and Eric: was weird.

:

00:57:44,635 --> 00:57:47,075

Yeah, that was a weird

way to put it for sure.

:

00:57:47,105 --> 00:57:47,435

Yeah

:

00:57:47,805 --> 00:57:48,425

again, I think

:

00:57:48,580 --> 00:57:49,890

Katie: like, okay, it's just a replica.

:

00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,670

And then, yeah, like the

spaceship somehow comes on it

:

00:57:54,940 --> 00:57:56,700

and it comes alive differently.

:

00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,050

It was weird.

:

00:57:58,195 --> 00:58:00,325

Kevin and Eric: There was a lot happening,

but they were I think they were having

:

00:58:00,325 --> 00:58:04,905

fun with the fact that they had these

new effects Yeah technology at that

:

00:58:04,905 --> 00:58:05,185

time.

:

00:58:05,185 --> 00:58:10,235

I look what we can do I mean a lot of this

stuff that Emmerich did in Stargate with

:

00:58:10,235 --> 00:58:14,690

the models You shooting in miniature, he

brought in the Independence Day, right?

:

00:58:14,810 --> 00:58:19,590

So he took a lot of that experience from

Stargate and applied it to, like, all the

:

00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,580

explosion shots from Independence Day.

:

00:58:21,580 --> 00:58:23,370

It all came from The White

House blowing up or whatever?

:

00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:26,190

Yeah, it all came from, from

what he did on Stargate.

:

00:58:26,190 --> 00:58:27,150

It was really interesting.

:

00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:27,400

Like,

:

00:58:27,410 --> 00:58:29,090

why did the Stargate look like water?

:

00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:29,740

We don't know.

:

00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:30,240

We don't know.

:

00:58:30,250 --> 00:58:31,000

It doesn't really

:

00:58:31,250 --> 00:58:31,570

it's kind of

:

00:58:31,845 --> 00:58:32,405

Katie: like that.

:

00:58:32,415 --> 00:58:33,345

Like I, I didn't

:

00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:33,950

Kevin and Eric: it looked cool.

:

00:58:33,970 --> 00:58:34,290

Yeah, it was a

:

00:58:34,305 --> 00:58:34,565

Katie: that.

:

00:58:34,595 --> 00:58:35,485

It looked cool.

:

00:58:35,485 --> 00:58:36,375

I liked the vistas.

:

00:58:36,785 --> 00:58:39,415

I, I did like the shots of the village.

:

00:58:39,425 --> 00:58:41,795

I even thought the

creature thing was cool.

:

00:58:42,355 --> 00:58:44,775

Kevin and Eric: yeah, the

weird horse camel thing.

:

00:58:45,055 --> 00:58:45,525

Yeah.

:

00:58:45,695 --> 00:58:49,585

Katie: Well, is that what you have

described it as like when you were

:

00:58:49,585 --> 00:58:50,985

a kid when you just first saw it?

:

00:58:50,985 --> 00:58:53,305

What how would you describe

this creature to someone?

:

00:58:53,695 --> 00:58:54,495

Kevin and Eric: Oh,

that's a good question.

:

00:58:54,495 --> 00:58:57,605

It looks like a Jim

Henson sort of, creation.

:

00:58:57,615 --> 00:58:58,155

Yeah.

:

00:58:58,495 --> 00:59:00,105

Something from Labyrinth or something.

:

00:59:00,105 --> 00:59:00,705

Yeah, definitely

:

00:59:00,705 --> 00:59:01,225

Labyrinth.

:

00:59:01,295 --> 00:59:01,705

Yeah.

:

00:59:02,055 --> 00:59:02,445

Yeah.

:

00:59:03,195 --> 00:59:06,895

Katie: That's a good way of putting

it It I did think it was cool.

:

00:59:06,895 --> 00:59:10,435

It was like really out of nowhere It

was this big how I would describe it.

:

00:59:10,445 --> 00:59:12,215

It had like a dinosaur face

:

00:59:12,985 --> 00:59:13,135

Kevin and Eric: Mm

:

00:59:13,145 --> 00:59:13,445

hmm.

:

00:59:13,615 --> 00:59:16,765

Katie: it's body was hairy and it was big.

:

00:59:17,435 --> 00:59:20,605

But somehow, so it did not

look like any earthly animal.

:

00:59:20,605 --> 00:59:22,765

It looked like an alien animal.

:

00:59:22,865 --> 00:59:24,625

Kevin and Eric: pretty, it was

a pretty good effect, really.

:

00:59:25,245 --> 00:59:29,145

Katie: But, but somehow these

people are not fazed, like, at all.

:

00:59:29,155 --> 00:59:31,595

They're like, oh, Skor, there's

this weird, they're like,

:

00:59:31,795 --> 00:59:32,155

Kevin and Eric: Right.

:

00:59:32,285 --> 00:59:32,655

Why didn't

:

00:59:32,725 --> 00:59:33,795

they bring horses, right?

:

00:59:33,795 --> 00:59:37,085

Because we reckon all the people

there were brought from Earth.

:

00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,070

Yes, that is my understanding.

:

00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,460

So they could have brought horses

or something, but they said they

:

00:59:41,470 --> 00:59:42,880

had these weird desert creatures.

:

00:59:42,970 --> 00:59:43,930

Right, Yeah.

:

00:59:43,970 --> 00:59:44,340

Yeah.

:

00:59:44,845 --> 00:59:46,235

Katie: Don't think too hard about it, I

:

00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:47,050

Kevin and Eric: No, don't do it.

:

00:59:47,050 --> 00:59:47,740

Yeah, right.

:

00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:49,840

You, you, you're going down rabbit holes

:

00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:50,640

you don't want to go down

:

00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:50,760

with

:

00:59:50,770 --> 00:59:51,220

Stargate.

:

00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:52,660

apart.

:

00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,400

It's a house of cards.

:

00:59:53,630 --> 00:59:53,930

It is.

:

00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,770

It's a delicate house

:

00:59:54,770 --> 00:59:54,890

of

:

00:59:55,090 --> 00:59:55,930

Katie: a, oh,

:

00:59:56,190 --> 00:59:57,230

Kevin and Eric: A pyramid of cards.

:

00:59:57,230 --> 01:00:00,660

Yeah,

:

01:00:00,860 --> 01:00:05,620

Katie: this creature, I was reading

that it's actually Clydesdale horses,

:

01:00:06,250 --> 01:00:08,440

like in a sort of like in a costume.

:

01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:10,810

Kevin and Eric: it's

probably real hot in there.

:

01:00:11,450 --> 01:00:11,850

I read there

:

01:00:11,850 --> 01:00:11,980

was

:

01:00:11,980 --> 01:00:15,090

horses and then on some of the

shots, it was a dog dragging

:

01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:19,530

like dragging like a little small model

of James Spader around or something.

:

01:00:19,530 --> 01:00:20,420

Yeah, that's wild.

:

01:00:21,830 --> 01:00:22,130

Katie: Okay.

:

01:00:22,130 --> 01:00:26,130

Favorite scenes, you guys, like

what really made it for you?

:

01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,630

Kevin and Eric: This is super dumb,

but When, when he's in the ruins with

:

01:00:31,630 --> 01:00:36,240

his girlfriend and he starts like

reading aloud the hieroglyphics and

:

01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,900

she kind of recognizes it and then they

realize that they're speaking the same

:

01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:42,770

language, just a different dialect of it.

:

01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:45,460

And then that's how they

figure out how to get home.

:

01:00:45,850 --> 01:00:47,585

That was like that to me.

:

01:00:48,035 --> 01:00:51,905

And still, even despite all of the other

problems with that movie, of which it's

:

01:00:51,945 --> 01:00:56,445

myriad I just thought that that was

such a clever way to find a solution

:

01:00:56,445 --> 01:00:59,155

to the problem that they established

in the beginning of the second act.

:

01:00:59,215 --> 01:00:59,625

Right?

:

01:01:00,125 --> 01:01:01,025

Like, the idea that.

:

01:01:01,025 --> 01:01:04,695

he had the answer all along, but

because it was a language that

:

01:01:04,705 --> 01:01:08,025

hadn't been spoken in thousands

of years, the dialect had shifted.

:

01:01:08,025 --> 01:01:08,765

I'm like, how?

:

01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:12,630

What a clever believable

way to solve this problem.

:

01:01:12,650 --> 01:01:15,680

That was one of my favorite scenes,

and it wasn't even about explosions.

:

01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:16,880

Ah, weird.

:

01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:20,190

Katie: But he was

somehow affluent in this.

:

01:01:20,550 --> 01:01:20,810

Kevin and Eric: Well,

:

01:01:20,810 --> 01:01:21,390

yeah, okay.

:

01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:21,810

And then,

:

01:01:21,810 --> 01:01:23,520

yeah, then he's instantly

fluent in the dialect.

:

01:01:23,790 --> 01:01:24,750

Again, don't go

:

01:01:24,810 --> 01:01:25,860

too far down this road.

:

01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:32,120

I feel like, yeah, cause, but

no, no one would know what that

:

01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,210

language sounds like, right?

:

01:01:33,210 --> 01:01:34,950

Like, no one in:

:

01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:35,490

Yeah.

:

01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:38,720

I felt I had the same issue with

Jurassic Park, where they're saying the

:

01:01:38,730 --> 01:01:42,460

T Rex's vision is based on movement,

and it's like, no one in:

:

01:01:42,460 --> 01:01:46,310

don't know what the T Rex's vision

was based on, like in, you know,

:

01:01:46,730 --> 01:01:48,520

65 million years later or whatever.

:

01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:52,630

For me, I love the beginning of

the movie, the part in the:

:

01:01:53,225 --> 01:01:53,435

When

:

01:01:53,435 --> 01:01:54,445

they were unearthing the

:

01:01:54,445 --> 01:01:56,875

stuff it was big, you

know, indiana jones vibes

:

01:01:57,515 --> 01:02:00,935

um, and then the whole setup where

like the government people come to

:

01:02:00,935 --> 01:02:05,775

him and and want to Use his expertise

to figure it out that was also

:

01:02:05,775 --> 01:02:07,285

big indiana jones like when they

:

01:02:07,545 --> 01:02:10,295

when the guys came and wanted

indy to To figure out the

:

01:02:10,295 --> 01:02:11,565

arc of the covenant for them

:

01:02:12,095 --> 01:02:12,485

or whatever.

:

01:02:12,485 --> 01:02:12,545

I

:

01:02:12,545 --> 01:02:15,725

like that I like the first

moment the stargate got opened

:

01:02:15,725 --> 01:02:20,105

up and the water Zoomed out and

everything like that was very cool.

:

01:02:20,155 --> 01:02:24,145

I loved Kurt Russell's character.

:

01:02:24,145 --> 01:02:26,525

His like pathos is his lost

:

01:02:26,865 --> 01:02:27,405

son

:

01:02:27,855 --> 01:02:28,415

or whatever that

:

01:02:28,415 --> 01:02:30,695

kept manifesting itself through the movie.

:

01:02:30,745 --> 01:02:33,485

When the kid tried to grab his gun

and he pulled it away from the,

:

01:02:33,755 --> 01:02:35,975

the kid in the, in the other world.

:

01:02:36,305 --> 01:02:38,635

And he was very protective, didn't

want the kid to touch his gun.

:

01:02:38,635 --> 01:02:41,475

And then I think later he

had a chance to kill Rob.

:

01:02:41,485 --> 01:02:42,095

He couldn't do it.

:

01:02:42,125 --> 01:02:43,515

Cause there were all the kids around.

:

01:02:44,215 --> 01:02:47,355

And then in the very end, when one

of the bad guys shoots at the kids

:

01:02:47,365 --> 01:02:48,815

that really set Kurt Russell off.

:

01:02:48,825 --> 01:02:50,105

So I liked that he had a.

:

01:02:51,015 --> 01:02:56,105

His character was like, had a, a very

good through line from his motivation

:

01:02:56,105 --> 01:02:58,015

about having lost his son or whatever.

:

01:02:59,805 --> 01:03:04,245

Katie: I'm glad you brought that up

because I didn't, I feel like on,

:

01:03:04,295 --> 01:03:07,155

I've only watched it once, but I feel

like on second rewatch, maybe I would

:

01:03:07,155 --> 01:03:11,125

have picked up a little more because

I actually was hoping for more, but

:

01:03:11,125 --> 01:03:12,905

you did bring up a few good examples.

:

01:03:12,925 --> 01:03:16,745

Cause I was like, Yeah, his kid died.

:

01:03:16,765 --> 01:03:18,285

He accidentally shot himself.

:

01:03:18,515 --> 01:03:20,955

but then I was like, they

didn't really bring it up a lot.

:

01:03:21,005 --> 01:03:22,265

But you're right.

:

01:03:22,285 --> 01:03:23,675

They did.

:

01:03:24,005 --> 01:03:24,605

Kevin and Eric: It was subtle

:

01:03:24,605 --> 01:03:24,955

though.

:

01:03:25,025 --> 01:03:25,445

Yeah.

:

01:03:27,715 --> 01:03:28,125

I like that.

:

01:03:28,125 --> 01:03:30,555

I like the look of Ra, of Ra's goons.

:

01:03:30,575 --> 01:03:31,245

The henchmen,

:

01:03:31,245 --> 01:03:33,095

Like with, they looked like hieroglyphics.

:

01:03:33,515 --> 01:03:34,435

It was very cool.

:

01:03:34,435 --> 01:03:35,445

Like visual thing.

:

01:03:36,195 --> 01:03:37,145

And I love those weapons.

:

01:03:37,145 --> 01:03:38,545

They had the blasters that.

:

01:03:38,885 --> 01:03:43,175

Did this incredible damage and

the flying the the spacecrafts or

:

01:03:43,175 --> 01:03:46,695

whatever the little ships they zoomed

around in was awesome as well Yeah,

:

01:03:47,065 --> 01:03:48,845

and I just like about it for me.

:

01:03:48,925 --> 01:03:52,455

Yeah, I just I love that the geeky

scientist gets the hot chick in the end

:

01:03:52,465 --> 01:03:56,055

I mean, come on, like that's it's an

easy way the guy with the glasses scores.

:

01:03:56,065 --> 01:03:57,905

Yeah, the four eyes gets the girl

:

01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,350

Katie: Good point.

:

01:04:00,110 --> 01:04:00,420

Good.

:

01:04:00,420 --> 01:04:01,540

That's a really good point.

:

01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,130

But okay.

:

01:04:03,490 --> 01:04:07,220

I don't know about you guys, but I feel

like the end took a little too long.

:

01:04:07,230 --> 01:04:08,760

I was like, Oh God, is it over yet?

:

01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:09,590

But

:

01:04:09,975 --> 01:04:12,455

Kevin and Eric: It's because you

don't like explosions as much as I do

:

01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:13,710

Katie: I mean, with the

:

01:04:14,015 --> 01:04:16,195

Kevin and Eric: What do you mean you

mean after the last explosion after

:

01:04:16,195 --> 01:04:17,865

the last battle or just like you just

:

01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:18,480

Katie: I

:

01:04:18,700 --> 01:04:18,980

Kevin and Eric: during the

:

01:04:18,990 --> 01:04:19,270

battles,

:

01:04:19,279 --> 01:04:19,410

we were

:

01:04:19,410 --> 01:04:20,880

Katie: they're all conflated to me.

:

01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,480

Cause I feel like there

was like four last battles.

:

01:04:24,210 --> 01:04:24,940

You know what I mean?

:

01:04:25,210 --> 01:04:25,450

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

01:04:25,450 --> 01:04:26,460

It did go on and on.

:

01:04:26,850 --> 01:04:29,920

But what about the, what about

the kills at the end, though?

:

01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,140

Like the, the teleporter thing

that like, cut the guy in half.

:

01:04:34,140 --> 01:04:35,700

I thought that was awesome.

:

01:04:35,970 --> 01:04:40,560

Katie: was cool, but again, you're

adding yet another weird the teleporter,

:

01:04:40,770 --> 01:04:42,300

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

:

01:04:42,350 --> 01:04:46,060

Katie: It was hard to follow

what, what the world is capable

:

01:04:46,060 --> 01:04:47,800

of and what the things are doing.

:

01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,120

Kevin and Eric: Using that though

to send the bomb up into the,

:

01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,120

to teleport the bomb

:

01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:52,230

up

:

01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:52,860

into the spaceship.

:

01:04:53,020 --> 01:04:54,470

That was a pretty great ending.

:

01:04:54,850 --> 01:04:55,670

Katie: that's true.

:

01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,529

So Kurt Russell, because

his kid is dead, he's like.

:

01:04:59,370 --> 01:05:03,250

We learn that his intent is for

this to be a suicide mission.

:

01:05:03,260 --> 01:05:06,370

He is not intending on coming

back with everyone else,

:

01:05:06,910 --> 01:05:08,330

but that's not what happens.

:

01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:11,650

And to your point, Eric, about

the, the nerdy guy getting the

:

01:05:11,650 --> 01:05:16,290

girl, when I watched this, when

they were all like, kind of like,

:

01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,120

congregating, getting ready to go back.

:

01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:21,980

I was like, Oh, he's going to

bring the girl back with him.

:

01:05:22,515 --> 01:05:23,585

But he stays.

:

01:05:23,975 --> 01:05:27,025

Why would you want to stay

in an ancient civilization,

:

01:05:27,690 --> 01:05:29,740

Kevin and Eric: I could

for for that character.

:

01:05:29,740 --> 01:05:31,920

I feel like maybe it makes

sense because he was like an

:

01:05:31,930 --> 01:05:35,000

Egypt, no, and he never fit in.

:

01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:35,279

Right?

:

01:05:35,350 --> 01:05:39,020

They make a big point of

saying how little he fit in.

:

01:05:39,020 --> 01:05:42,400

And the first time we see him

when he's like, he's actually

:

01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,020

figured out that the pyramids.

:

01:05:44,020 --> 01:05:44,330

Right?

:

01:05:44,330 --> 01:05:44,960

Exactly.

:

01:05:44,980 --> 01:05:49,330

And so, yeah, I think they were trying

to say that he actually fit in better.

:

01:05:49,330 --> 01:05:49,360

Yeah.

:

01:05:49,625 --> 01:05:51,105

In this other world,

:

01:05:51,265 --> 01:05:52,145

Katie: Yeah, you're right.

:

01:05:52,255 --> 01:05:52,515

No,

:

01:05:52,575 --> 01:05:53,105

Kevin and Eric: I, also feel like,

:

01:05:53,185 --> 01:05:53,815

Katie: better.

:

01:05:54,215 --> 01:05:58,015

I just, I, I feel like that,

I didn't see that coming.

:

01:05:58,055 --> 01:06:00,375

I assumed he was going to

bring the girl with him.

:

01:06:00,755 --> 01:06:03,185

Kevin and Eric: could see a scenario

in like a jurassic park or something

:

01:06:03,185 --> 01:06:06,475

where the dinosaur scientist

wanted to stay with the dinosaurs

:

01:06:06,695 --> 01:06:08,065

and like do more research, you

:

01:06:08,065 --> 01:06:11,355

know, learn more because in theory

he could come back anytime he wanted.

:

01:06:11,355 --> 01:06:11,595

Right?

:

01:06:11,595 --> 01:06:14,265

Like now that he knows

how to use the thing.

:

01:06:14,895 --> 01:06:18,345

I feel like this was already made

like franchise, like it was begging

:

01:06:18,345 --> 01:06:19,895

for a sequel that never really came.

:

01:06:19,895 --> 01:06:22,965

But yeah, and in fact, we don't know he

was going to be there forever, I guess.

:

01:06:23,420 --> 01:06:25,400

Dean Devlin was trying to get his

:

01:06:25,410 --> 01:06:28,620

sequel off the ground forever, and

they couldn't get the rights figured

:

01:06:28,620 --> 01:06:34,525

out, and then ultimately Showtime moved

ahead and made Stargate SG 1 and, and

:

01:06:34,525 --> 01:06:38,855

Devlin is famously completely disavowed

that show saying that that is not the

:

01:06:38,855 --> 01:06:40,085

direction that he would have taken the

:

01:06:40,365 --> 01:06:41,855

Katie: Is that the one with MacGyver?

:

01:06:42,185 --> 01:06:43,315

Kevin and Eric: It is

the one with MacGyver?

:

01:06:43,315 --> 01:06:43,765

Yeah.

:

01:06:43,805 --> 01:06:44,835

Was it like a Star Trek?

:

01:06:44,835 --> 01:06:47,745

Every episode was a different, they would

use it to go to some different place?

:

01:06:47,875 --> 01:06:48,805

Yeah, in the beginning.

:

01:06:48,825 --> 01:06:51,755

And then there was some sort of

an overarching narrative that

:

01:06:51,875 --> 01:06:53,835

spun into it in the later seasons.

:

01:06:54,265 --> 01:06:57,545

And then there was like all these spinoff

shows like Stargate Atlantis and Stargate

:

01:06:57,555 --> 01:06:58,225

Universe.

:

01:06:58,225 --> 01:06:58,375

Yeah.

:

01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:00,290

It was a huge geek thing.

:

01:07:00,290 --> 01:07:02,370

Now I'm not, I never watched any of that.

:

01:07:02,370 --> 01:07:02,660

Yeah.

:

01:07:02,660 --> 01:07:05,820

I say, I'm not a huge fan of it, but

then I know an awful lot about it.

:

01:07:05,855 --> 01:07:06,575

no, I mean, it was,

:

01:07:06,850 --> 01:07:07,340

Katie: the show?

:

01:07:07,350 --> 01:07:09,150

Or Kevin, you haven't seen any of

:

01:07:09,455 --> 01:07:11,365

Kevin and Eric: I've never

seen anything but this movie.

:

01:07:11,365 --> 01:07:11,815

Yeah.

:

01:07:12,725 --> 01:07:14,015

Did you never watch the show though?

:

01:07:14,035 --> 01:07:17,015

I watched the show for a

couple of seasons drifted away.

:

01:07:17,065 --> 01:07:18,455

And then it has a huge following.

:

01:07:18,505 --> 01:07:18,955

It does.

:

01:07:18,985 --> 01:07:19,154

Yeah.

:

01:07:19,154 --> 01:07:19,875

It's a cult.

:

01:07:20,005 --> 01:07:21,045

Cult classic,

:

01:07:21,105 --> 01:07:21,985

uh, in, in, in,

:

01:07:21,985 --> 01:07:26,605

the veins of Farscape or Babylon five,

it never really quite reached Star

:

01:07:26,605 --> 01:07:31,055

Trek level, but yeah, I mean, it is,

you'll still see people cosplaying as

:

01:07:31,085 --> 01:07:33,085

Stargate characters, SG 1 characters.

:

01:07:33,085 --> 01:07:34,595

Yeah.

:

01:07:34,610 --> 01:07:38,940

Katie: of the characters from what I

was reading did kind of, cross over and

:

01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:43,450

then there were things that we learned

that were true, like what the name of

:

01:07:43,450 --> 01:07:47,040

the planet was and different things like

that that the movie doesn't tell us.

:

01:07:47,835 --> 01:07:50,101

Kevin and Eric: They don't really

touch out any of that, do they?

:

01:07:50,101 --> 01:07:50,810

No, they don't.

:

01:07:50,810 --> 01:07:54,465

But I will, I will say that

they did Shourie Dirty the James

:

01:07:54,475 --> 01:07:56,035

Spader's love interest character.

:

01:07:56,385 --> 01:08:01,685

In the pilot episode, she is captured

by the new bad guys and implanted

:

01:08:01,685 --> 01:08:06,565

with a parasite monster, which becomes

sort of the central crux of the show.

:

01:08:06,805 --> 01:08:09,325

And we only see her once or

twice again after that point.

:

01:08:09,375 --> 01:08:11,555

They immediately just sacrifice her to

:

01:08:11,555 --> 01:08:12,255

these gods.

:

01:08:12,275 --> 01:08:12,505

These,

:

01:08:12,545 --> 01:08:14,515

these like weird parasite lizard gods.

:

01:08:14,545 --> 01:08:15,695

It was the same actress?

:

01:08:15,955 --> 01:08:17,625

I think it was the same actress.

:

01:08:17,654 --> 01:08:21,515

She, I think she was the only one

who came back for the TV show.

:

01:08:21,515 --> 01:08:22,835

No one else reprised their roles.

:

01:08:22,895 --> 01:08:23,375

Yeah.

:

01:08:23,859 --> 01:08:24,300

Okay,

:

01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:26,430

Katie: Interesting.

:

01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:27,069

Kevin and Eric: Yeah,

:

01:08:28,109 --> 01:08:34,279

Katie: I have a question about,

were we supposed to think that when

:

01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:37,390

they were showing the scenes of

them in a building that that was the

:

01:08:37,390 --> 01:08:39,680

pyramid that that was the pyramid

:

01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:40,920

that they

:

01:08:41,029 --> 01:08:42,380

Kevin and Eric: it wasn't,

that was never clear to me.

:

01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:45,750

Yeah, if like it was the lobby

of the pyramid, or if that was

:

01:08:45,850 --> 01:08:48,229

Katie: Yeah, it looked

like a different building.

:

01:08:49,229 --> 01:08:49,440

Kevin and Eric: Oh,

:

01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:51,660

Katie: though is a

different stone building.

:

01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,190

Kevin and Eric: The when, when they

first came out of the Stargate.

:

01:08:55,190 --> 01:08:56,510

Like those scenes?

:

01:08:56,690 --> 01:08:57,290

Katie: Yeah, yeah,

:

01:08:57,490 --> 01:08:57,790

Kevin and Eric: yeah.

:

01:08:57,790 --> 01:08:58,720

I think they were like, Yeah.

:

01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,580

they were, like you said you

they were in the vestibule.

:

01:09:00,875 --> 01:09:00,915

yeah.

:

01:09:00,915 --> 01:09:02,075

They were in the Vesti vestibule.

:

01:09:02,075 --> 01:09:02,315

The pyramid.

:

01:09:02,440 --> 01:09:05,260

They were in the, they were in

the waiting room of the pyramid or

:

01:09:05,260 --> 01:09:05,470

something?

:

01:09:05,470 --> 01:09:06,580

Yeah, I think so.

:

01:09:07,085 --> 01:09:12,755

Katie: they showed it that separately,

like that building, they had shots of it

:

01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:13,220

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:13,850

Oh, oh,

:

01:09:13,854 --> 01:09:14,540

I see what you're saying.

:

01:09:14,545 --> 01:09:16,309

The, the bit that they built.

:

01:09:16,315 --> 01:09:16,399

Yeah.

:

01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:19,670

I think it was attached to the

pyramid, but Sand had like, oh, okay.

:

01:09:19,670 --> 01:09:21,500

Dunes had sort of come up on it.

:

01:09:21,950 --> 01:09:24,350

But yeah, I think it was supposed

to be the entrance to the pyramid.

:

01:09:24,415 --> 01:09:27,184

Katie: I feel like they could

have made that far clearer.

:

01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,680

Kevin and Eric: Well, that was

yeah They built that for real.

:

01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,470

I think yeah I was I was watching

the director's commentary before

:

01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:37,190

we started and they said they built

like this seven story tall facade in

:

01:09:37,190 --> 01:09:40,319

the desert but then the actual

pyramid itself was, you know, an

:

01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:44,450

effect shot like a digital or A

matte painting or something like that

:

01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,109

Yeah, it was a pretty big production.

:

01:09:48,109 --> 01:09:50,559

I thought like a huge cast of

extras and things like that.

:

01:09:50,559 --> 01:09:53,250

They don't really do any more in movies.

:

01:09:53,565 --> 01:09:54,365

Katie: That is true.

:

01:09:54,375 --> 01:09:58,055

However, a lot, what we assume

are extras were Mannequins

:

01:09:58,675 --> 01:09:58,895

Kevin and Eric: Oh,

:

01:09:58,895 --> 01:09:59,005

really?

:

01:09:59,105 --> 01:10:00,005

Katie: it's cheaper.

:

01:10:00,025 --> 01:10:00,655

Kevin and Eric: Aw,

:

01:10:01,175 --> 01:10:01,795

you ruined it.

:

01:10:01,805 --> 01:10:02,915

Katie: Of all the villagers.

:

01:10:02,975 --> 01:10:03,385

Yeah.

:

01:10:04,285 --> 01:10:05,235

Kevin and Eric: Next

you're gonna tell me that

:

01:10:05,235 --> 01:10:05,395

that

:

01:10:05,395 --> 01:10:06,605

wasn't a real creature.

:

01:10:06,625 --> 01:10:07,425

Yeah, exactly.

:

01:10:08,445 --> 01:10:09,985

The desert horse thing.

:

01:10:10,675 --> 01:10:13,145

You mean they didn't actually

film on a different planet?

:

01:10:13,215 --> 01:10:15,005

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

:

01:10:15,005 --> 01:10:15,255

whoa, whoa.

:

01:10:15,265 --> 01:10:15,525

Katie: cool.

:

01:10:15,525 --> 01:10:18,165

I liked the shots of the

pyramid with the three moons.

:

01:10:18,165 --> 01:10:19,275

I really did like that.

:

01:10:19,285 --> 01:10:20,545

It was like a cool shot.

:

01:10:21,025 --> 01:10:25,975

One of my favorite scenes is actually

the smoking scene with the kid and Kurt

:

01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:27,590

Kevin and Eric: Oh, yeah.

:

01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:29,440

The kid wants to be just

like Kurt Russell, right?

:

01:10:29,870 --> 01:10:33,200

Katie: Yeah, so Kurt is

smoking Marlboro Reds and he's

:

01:10:33,220 --> 01:10:35,830

showing this kid his lighter.

:

01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,210

It was like a, like a Zippo lighter.

:

01:10:37,210 --> 01:10:40,270

And the kid, I mean, this

is like an ancient culture.

:

01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:40,660

They don't

:

01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,390

Kevin and Eric: Oh, That's magic right?

:

01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,290

That's magic for

:

01:10:43,290 --> 01:10:43,660

them.

:

01:10:43,670 --> 01:10:44,150

yeah.

:

01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,200

Katie: So then he sees the pack of

cigarettes and he's like, Oh, I'm

:

01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:52,740

gonna, I'm gonna take one and then

Kurt all coolly takes this big drag

:

01:10:52,740 --> 01:10:56,520

and he's, you know, and the kid, of

course, he's like, Oh my God you know,

:

01:10:56,690 --> 01:10:58,940

he can't, I, I loved that scene that the

:

01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:59,240

Kevin and Eric: It was a

:

01:10:59,240 --> 01:10:59,950

great scene.

:

01:10:59,990 --> 01:11:01,070

Yeah, yeah.

:

01:11:01,670 --> 01:11:04,380

That was the one right before the

kid didn't try to pick up his gun to

:

01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:06,860

look at it and Kurt sort of

smacked it out of his hand.

:

01:11:06,860 --> 01:11:07,170

Yeah,

:

01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:08,410

Katie: and then scared him.

:

01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:13,309

But so I love also then later

the kids come to the rescue

:

01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,030

with all these machine guns.

:

01:11:16,450 --> 01:11:18,080

So, I mean, they,

:

01:11:19,460 --> 01:11:20,120

Kevin and Eric: know it was good.

:

01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,990

We should have given

them guns earlier again.

:

01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:22,360

Again.

:

01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,590

You're taking the wrong

lessons away from this movie

:

01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:29,380

Katie: I don't know how a lighter

works, but a machine gun, no problemo.

:

01:11:29,460 --> 01:11:32,830

Kevin and Eric: was another great scene

though the whole the bus breaking them out

:

01:11:32,830 --> 01:11:37,010

and freeing them or whatever was a lot of

fun Yeah, I'm a sucker for the adventure

:

01:11:37,330 --> 01:11:41,675

action stuff, too Yeah, everything you're

saying I agree with on a fundamental

:

01:11:41,675 --> 01:11:44,695

level, but yeah, I give it a pass just

:

01:11:44,695 --> 01:11:48,545

because, I mean, I will never forget

13 year old me watching it for the

:

01:11:48,545 --> 01:11:50,055

first time in theaters, you know?

:

01:11:50,065 --> 01:11:51,085

Mind blowing in 94.

:

01:11:51,085 --> 01:11:52,115

Overboard's

:

01:11:52,180 --> 01:11:54,550

Katie: I feel like, okay, so when I did.

:

01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,020

The Big Trouble in Little China

episode is my very 1st episode

:

01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:02,600

that, that and Overboard are my 2,

like, those are my current movies.

:

01:12:02,620 --> 01:12:03,660

Those are my 2 favorites.

:

01:12:04,255 --> 01:12:05,605

Kevin and Eric: great movie, yeah.

:

01:12:05,890 --> 01:12:08,400

Katie: So, I grew up watching

Big Trouble in Little China.

:

01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:09,980

It is a wackadoo movie.

:

01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:10,520

It makes

:

01:12:10,930 --> 01:12:14,240

no sense but it's spectacular.

:

01:12:15,059 --> 01:12:22,210

And Ryan Rebalkin was my guest and he

had he had never seen it as a child.

:

01:12:22,770 --> 01:12:27,770

So he was bringing up some, I know,

but he was bringing up, I feel

:

01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:31,240

like I'm the Ryan now watching it

for the first time as an adult.

:

01:12:31,250 --> 01:12:32,600

He was bringing up things.

:

01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,630

He was like, what is going on here?

:

01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:35,490

What am I watching?

:

01:12:35,490 --> 01:12:36,990

And I'm like, I'm like, no, no, no, no.

:

01:12:36,990 --> 01:12:38,130

You just go with it.

:

01:12:38,140 --> 01:12:39,270

Don't worry about it.

:

01:12:39,370 --> 01:12:40,460

Kevin and Eric: That was a tough.

:

01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,600

That would Big Trouble Little China

would be a tough one for an adult

:

01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,410

human to watch in like:

:

01:12:47,410 --> 01:12:48,050

Yeah, whatever.

:

01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:50,870

For the first time, you'd be

like, this movie is weird.

:

01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:54,350

I feel like when it came out in

the eighties, people were just

:

01:12:54,620 --> 01:12:56,100

totally going along with it.

:

01:12:56,150 --> 01:12:58,780

That was one of the very early

six degrees of Schwarzenegger's

:

01:12:58,780 --> 01:12:59,870

was big trouble in little China.

:

01:12:59,870 --> 01:13:03,340

And yeah, they, they thought that this

was going to be like an Indiana Jones type

:

01:13:03,340 --> 01:13:05,970

of franchise when they made that movie.

:

01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,080

Yes.

:

01:13:07,220 --> 01:13:10,540

Katie: how to like market

or describe what it was.

:

01:13:10,559 --> 01:13:12,490

And so it bombed, didn't it?

:

01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:12,809

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

01:13:12,809 --> 01:13:13,110

Yeah.

:

01:13:13,150 --> 01:13:16,420

I think it was sure it did, but it

was one that like when I was a tiny

:

01:13:16,420 --> 01:13:19,230

kid, that was one that a friend of

mine in the neighborhood had on VHS

:

01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:20,340

Katie: it's

:

01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,000

Kevin and Eric: watch it once a week for

:

01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:22,570

sure.

:

01:13:23,550 --> 01:13:23,760

Yeah.

:

01:13:23,770 --> 01:13:24,790

it's an absolute Cult.

:

01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:25,260

classic.

:

01:13:25,309 --> 01:13:25,780

Yeah.

:

01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:27,170

So great.

:

01:13:27,170 --> 01:13:31,700

And every, like every Asian working

like actor back then is in that movie.

:

01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:31,830

Like

:

01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,850

the Al Leong's and Jeff

Amato's of the world.

:

01:13:35,850 --> 01:13:38,860

Like all the awesome stuntmen

are all in that movie.

:

01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:39,170

Yeah.

:

01:13:39,170 --> 01:13:39,770

It's great.

:

01:13:40,930 --> 01:13:41,130

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:13:41,130 --> 01:13:42,190

James Hong as

:

01:13:42,615 --> 01:13:44,795

Kevin and Eric: The ever

ever brilliant James just

:

01:13:44,835 --> 01:13:45,545

had a birthday and

:

01:13:45,545 --> 01:13:45,805

finally

:

01:13:45,805 --> 01:13:46,575

got his star on the

:

01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:47,809

Katie: that's right.

:

01:13:47,809 --> 01:13:48,559

I, yes.

:

01:13:48,660 --> 01:13:49,130

Thank you for

:

01:13:49,145 --> 01:13:52,985

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, and he's been

in more movies than any other actor in

:

01:13:52,985 --> 01:13:57,295

the history of movies and television

I mean in recent memory his his

:

01:13:57,295 --> 01:14:03,165

role as the the dad in everything

everywhere all at once was just Amazing.

:

01:14:03,405 --> 01:14:04,175

It's awesome.

:

01:14:04,315 --> 01:14:04,805

Yeah, he's a

:

01:14:04,805 --> 01:14:05,195

treasure.

:

01:14:05,195 --> 01:14:08,105

I'll be so sad when like

I hear that he's passed

:

01:14:08,620 --> 01:14:10,980

Katie: he's like 90, isn't he?

:

01:14:11,150 --> 01:14:12,730

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, he's, he's up there.

:

01:14:13,250 --> 01:14:14,570

He was also in Tango and Cash.

:

01:14:14,570 --> 01:14:15,580

Yeah, he was in Tango and Cash.

:

01:14:15,580 --> 01:14:16,520

Let's

:

01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,400

not forget.

:

01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:20,440

Katie: An episode of Seinfeld.

:

01:14:20,809 --> 01:14:22,750

Kevin and Eric: Yeah,

he was, he was Seinfeld!

:

01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:23,960

The Chinese restaurant.

:

01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:24,840

Yeah, Yeah.

:

01:14:24,850 --> 01:14:26,000

He's been in everything.

:

01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,040

He does, he has 300 or 400 credits.

:

01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:28,670

Yeah, yeah.

:

01:14:29,175 --> 01:14:29,945

Katie: Yeah, that's

:

01:14:29,995 --> 01:14:31,265

Kevin and Eric: Because he

goes back to the fifties or

:

01:14:31,265 --> 01:14:31,425

something.

:

01:14:31,465 --> 01:14:31,985

Yeah.

:

01:14:32,295 --> 01:14:32,395

The

:

01:14:32,395 --> 01:14:32,885

forties.

:

01:14:32,885 --> 01:14:33,075

Yeah.

:

01:14:33,215 --> 01:14:33,934

Katie: in his 90s.

:

01:14:33,965 --> 01:14:41,295

Yeah Okay, I don't want to be okay

Maybe it was just me, but I literally

:

01:14:41,295 --> 01:14:48,345

when I was watching this I had to look

up whether raw Was a boy or a girl

:

01:14:49,445 --> 01:14:49,725

Kevin and Eric: The

:

01:14:49,865 --> 01:14:50,525

actor.

:

01:14:51,184 --> 01:14:51,485

Katie: like

:

01:14:52,015 --> 01:14:52,305

Kevin and Eric: No,

:

01:14:52,365 --> 01:14:52,785

It's not

:

01:14:52,855 --> 01:14:53,035

Katie: the

:

01:14:53,245 --> 01:14:53,515

Kevin and Eric: And in

:

01:14:53,615 --> 01:14:54,665

Katie: the character.

:

01:14:54,835 --> 01:14:59,195

Kevin and Eric: yeah, the, they

intentionally made the, the costuming

:

01:14:59,225 --> 01:15:01,835

and the makeup extremely androgynous

:

01:15:02,195 --> 01:15:04,625

Katie: Yes Mmm,

:

01:15:04,825 --> 01:15:08,434

Kevin and Eric: was, is that this ancient

alien possessed this human and this

:

01:15:08,465 --> 01:15:11,015

alien wasn't really male or female.

:

01:15:11,555 --> 01:15:15,565

So they wanted to emphasize the

androgyny, which is why we took

:

01:15:15,565 --> 01:15:17,295

over his body when he was like 14 or

:

01:15:17,295 --> 01:15:17,535

yeah.

:

01:15:17,535 --> 01:15:18,135

When he was really

:

01:15:18,265 --> 01:15:19,085

Katie: He took over a

:

01:15:19,135 --> 01:15:21,005

Kevin and Eric: of like, pubescent or

:

01:15:21,055 --> 01:15:21,110

Katie: oh

:

01:15:22,580 --> 01:15:22,860

It's

:

01:15:23,035 --> 01:15:23,915

Kevin and Eric: that's why they asked.

:

01:15:24,345 --> 01:15:26,015

I feel like that's why they

cast that actor, though,

:

01:15:26,015 --> 01:15:28,285

is because that actor sort

of has the androgynous

:

01:15:28,325 --> 01:15:28,675

thing going.

:

01:15:28,684 --> 01:15:31,375

Yeah, they definitely wanted

to emphasize that, yeah.

:

01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:32,230

Katie: It's true.

:

01:15:32,230 --> 01:15:33,350

But I was kind of confused.

:

01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:35,650

Cause I'm like, is he trying

to seduce Kurt Russell?

:

01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:38,559

Kevin and Eric: I feel like if

it had to have a gender, I feel

:

01:15:38,559 --> 01:15:40,070

like it was male, probably.

:

01:15:40,205 --> 01:15:41,285

Katie: it definitely is.

:

01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,170

Kevin and Eric: But the alien,

like to Eric's point, the alien

:

01:15:44,180 --> 01:15:48,100

being inside of him might have,

aliens may not have genders,

:

01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:48,680

for all we

:

01:15:48,735 --> 01:15:49,195

Katie: correct.

:

01:15:49,225 --> 01:15:51,675

But, but the alien took over a boy.

:

01:15:51,930 --> 01:15:53,890

Kevin and Eric: Right, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

:

01:15:54,405 --> 01:15:54,705

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:15:54,735 --> 01:15:55,855

I mean, and it doesn't matter.

:

01:15:55,855 --> 01:16:00,005

I just, I don't know why I was like,

oh, he's really pretty and being sensual

:

01:16:00,670 --> 01:16:02,220

Kevin and Eric: He was, yeah, she was.

:

01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:02,860

It was, It

:

01:16:02,860 --> 01:16:03,650

was, Yeah.

:

01:16:03,690 --> 01:16:04,160

They were.

:

01:16:04,210 --> 01:16:05,970

They were, he was, yeah.

:

01:16:05,970 --> 01:16:06,035

Yeah.

:

01:16:06,434 --> 01:16:10,755

but yeah, I think, I think ultimately

it was, it was a male, but yeah, they

:

01:16:10,755 --> 01:16:16,125

definitely played up the androgyny to

emphasize sort of the outside of the

:

01:16:16,125 --> 01:16:18,505

human space that the character existed in.

:

01:16:19,195 --> 01:16:22,875

Katie: What else do you guys have for

me to try and sell me on this movie?

:

01:16:24,475 --> 01:16:25,655

Kevin and Eric: Explosions?

:

01:16:26,275 --> 01:16:26,735

Katie: Okay.

:

01:16:27,805 --> 01:16:28,895

Kevin and Eric: I'm not gonna let that go.

:

01:16:29,325 --> 01:16:32,815

The only note I have left that I really

want to talk about is a beef with

:

01:16:32,815 --> 01:16:34,085

the movie that I have, which is just

:

01:16:34,085 --> 01:16:35,684

how they wrecked Kurt Russell's hair.

:

01:16:36,385 --> 01:16:40,835

I feel like for me that hair, like Kurt

Russell's hair is a national treasure.

:

01:16:40,975 --> 01:16:41,305

Katie: is.

:

01:16:41,305 --> 01:16:41,725

Yes.

:

01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,980

Kevin and Eric: And it was

like, you know, like, Sam Malone

:

01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:45,370

Ted Danson's hair in Cheers or

:

01:16:45,370 --> 01:16:49,830

whatever, like, it was a, and I feel like

he just, they must have sent him in with

:

01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:51,840

the barber and he said, just ruin me.

:

01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:57,370

He's like, it's the flattest

flat top that's ever existed.

:

01:16:57,370 --> 01:16:59,600

Straight up guile level

from Street Fighter.

:

01:16:59,870 --> 01:17:03,010

But on this, on the on the director's

commentary, they said that one of

:

01:17:03,010 --> 01:17:06,790

them was said they read a list of the

stupidest movie decisions ever made and

:

01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:11,790

on the list was Kurt Russell's hair in

Stargate, which I can agree with because,

:

01:17:11,805 --> 01:17:14,425

Katie: You know, that is so funny

because all of the things, and yes,

:

01:17:14,425 --> 01:17:18,675

I love me some Kurt Russell luscious,

he's got a great head of hair and I've

:

01:17:18,715 --> 01:17:21,785

talked about that Kurt and Patrick

are the only guys that can pull off

:

01:17:21,785 --> 01:17:23,345

a mullet and it's a whole thing.

:

01:17:24,075 --> 01:17:29,335

But, but I didn't have a problem

with it because for two reasons.

:

01:17:30,865 --> 01:17:34,495

He looks hot in his military

getup in that beret.

:

01:17:34,495 --> 01:17:35,184

He looks hot.

:

01:17:35,775 --> 01:17:39,445

And two, because he does have

good hair, it'll grow back.

:

01:17:39,475 --> 01:17:40,465

Like he can just grow back.

:

01:17:40,465 --> 01:17:42,465

And

:

01:17:42,585 --> 01:17:43,715

Kevin and Eric: when you

cut it short like that.

:

01:17:43,755 --> 01:17:46,175

So yeah, he's lucky man.

:

01:17:46,205 --> 01:17:47,005

Good genetics.

:

01:17:47,015 --> 01:17:47,445

Yeah.

:

01:17:47,605 --> 01:17:48,425

Kurt Russell.

:

01:17:48,625 --> 01:17:50,295

I, yeah, you know, I'll be honest.

:

01:17:50,345 --> 01:17:53,615

Like every, every critique you

brought up is a hundred percent valid.

:

01:17:53,665 --> 01:17:56,335

There's not a single thing that

I would go, no, no, no, no.

:

01:17:56,335 --> 01:17:58,095

But you think about it this way, right?

:

01:17:58,095 --> 01:17:58,360

Like.

:

01:17:58,950 --> 01:18:01,300

Everything you said is totally accurate,

:

01:18:02,330 --> 01:18:02,800

but there's been,

:

01:18:02,895 --> 01:18:06,045

Katie: to like, you know,

I, I fully get that.

:

01:18:06,055 --> 01:18:08,075

But this is not a movie made for me.

:

01:18:08,075 --> 01:18:10,405

Like I totally recognize that too.

:

01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,860

Kevin and Eric: yeah, yeah, no, I think

it, it if you're a fan of that whole

:

01:18:14,910 --> 01:18:19,230

sci fi adventure stuff, this is pretty

checks all the boxes of what you're

:

01:18:19,230 --> 01:18:20,070

kind of looking for.

:

01:18:20,450 --> 01:18:22,750

But at the time it felt really original.

:

01:18:22,750 --> 01:18:26,660

And I think the effects for the

time, were really something that

:

01:18:26,660 --> 01:18:28,190

people hadn't seen before as well.

:

01:18:28,430 --> 01:18:29,230

Absolutely.

:

01:18:29,290 --> 01:18:31,130

Um, yeah, it just worked for me.

:

01:18:31,735 --> 01:18:35,335

I mean, the set design was phenomenal,

and the costuming was phenomenal,

:

01:18:35,845 --> 01:18:40,695

and, you know, I, there, there were

moments of actual character pathos,

:

01:18:40,735 --> 01:18:43,765

for instance, you know, the scene with

the lighter and the kid, and then,

:

01:18:43,775 --> 01:18:47,085

you know, I mentioned the scene where

he learns the dialect, and they find,

:

01:18:47,095 --> 01:18:48,365

that's how they find the solution.

:

01:18:48,684 --> 01:18:48,895

Yeah.

:

01:18:48,985 --> 01:18:52,815

There were isolated scenes that

actually were, I, I found really

:

01:18:53,035 --> 01:18:57,115

effective in terms of the overall

sort of world that they were building.

:

01:18:57,115 --> 01:18:57,165

Yeah.

:

01:18:57,615 --> 01:19:00,825

But yeah, I mean, the kids learning

magically how to use guns and

:

01:19:00,825 --> 01:19:03,715

not be afraid of them, and Did

they have a single soldier with

:

01:19:03,715 --> 01:19:06,655

them to help them with the guns?

:

01:19:06,655 --> 01:19:08,295

I don't know that they did, to be honest.

:

01:19:08,335 --> 01:19:10,895

I don't know, I think most of them

were kidnapped by Ra at that point.

:

01:19:10,925 --> 01:19:11,965

I thought so too.

:

01:19:12,055 --> 01:19:16,315

Yeah, and thrown in the random pool,

which they don't really ever That

:

01:19:16,315 --> 01:19:19,195

was weird, they dumped them in a

pool of water, and I was like, that's

:

01:19:19,890 --> 01:19:20,250

Katie: good point.

:

01:19:20,290 --> 01:19:21,460

I kind of forgot about that.

:

01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:26,770

It, there's so much, I guess for me, it

was like I wasn't invested in anybody.

:

01:19:27,010 --> 01:19:29,110

Maybe it was like part of, I couldn't,

:

01:19:30,380 --> 01:19:32,050

I didn't care about anyone.

:

01:19:32,445 --> 01:19:35,075

Kevin and Eric: that's the issue

when you have a dueling leading men

:

01:19:35,085 --> 01:19:39,005

like because I don't know that either

one was Above the other ones in

:

01:19:39,005 --> 01:19:40,705

terms of a more important character

:

01:19:41,025 --> 01:19:43,255

So it's then it becomes

an ensemble piece and it's

:

01:19:43,255 --> 01:19:47,915

hard to really get too invested in

any of them Maybe yeah, and I don't

:

01:19:47,955 --> 01:19:51,655

I just don't think either emmerich

or devlin were good enough writers to

:

01:19:51,655 --> 01:19:54,425

write a strong enough Ensemble movie.

:

01:19:54,455 --> 01:19:58,315

I mean say what you will about

where he is now But for the for a

:

01:19:58,315 --> 01:20:02,135

while joss whedon was the master

of ensemble writing and I think

:

01:20:02,635 --> 01:20:03,905

Taking characters of those

:

01:20:03,934 --> 01:20:08,275

calibers if you would put down in joss

whedon's hand It's You could have had

:

01:20:08,285 --> 01:20:11,895

both of them really fully fleshed out

and had a much better relationship

:

01:20:11,895 --> 01:20:13,175

between the two of them, right?

:

01:20:13,795 --> 01:20:15,955

Yeah, they had like minor arcs, right?

:

01:20:15,955 --> 01:20:16,365

But there weren't

:

01:20:16,365 --> 01:20:19,925

like huge character arcs in the movie

where they've made a real like journey

:

01:20:20,025 --> 01:20:23,605

Yeah, although I guess in the end

kurt russell wasn't suicidal anymore.

:

01:20:24,345 --> 01:20:25,434

I guess not magically.

:

01:20:25,434 --> 01:20:26,565

It's all cured That

:

01:20:26,565 --> 01:20:27,434

was why they selected

:

01:20:27,434 --> 01:20:27,545

him

:

01:20:27,545 --> 01:20:30,555

for the mission I guess is because

he was sort of burned out and yeah

:

01:20:30,945 --> 01:20:31,625

all that it was

:

01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:32,830

Katie: him.

:

01:20:32,930 --> 01:20:33,160

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,050

Yeah.

:

01:20:34,050 --> 01:20:34,590

Gave him a new lease on life.

:

01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,280

Maybe he went home and cranked

out another kid or something.

:

01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,490

We don't know.

:

01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:40,520

We never got that.

:

01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,180

Maybe he's the one who became

the ancient aliens guy.

:

01:20:43,580 --> 01:20:44,915

Oh, yeah.

:

01:20:44,915 --> 01:20:45,960

Yes.

:

01:20:46,340 --> 01:20:47,460

The conspiracy theorist?

:

01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:48,140

Yeah, the conspiracy theorist.

:

01:20:48,140 --> 01:20:48,860

Yeah.

:

01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:49,980

Katie: I

:

01:20:50,130 --> 01:20:50,790

Kevin and Eric: I don't know.

:

01:20:50,900 --> 01:20:53,050

Katie: one, final logic question

:

01:20:53,170 --> 01:20:54,170

Kevin and Eric: Okay, ask away.

:

01:20:54,180 --> 01:20:55,400

I probably won't have an answer.

:

01:20:56,010 --> 01:21:02,990

Katie: Okay, so there is a sarcophagus

that, if I'm understanding correctly,

:

01:21:02,990 --> 01:21:07,900

this is where Ra emerges, like

his alien feature, like alien self

:

01:21:07,940 --> 01:21:10,170

emerges and he is now like Ra.

:

01:21:11,010 --> 01:21:16,640

But somehow, so the sarcophagus

apparently also has healing abilities.

:

01:21:16,990 --> 01:21:22,020

It brings people back to life

including both Jackson and his lady.

:

01:21:22,465 --> 01:21:23,035

Kevin and Eric: right.

:

01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:29,170

Katie: But why did Ra so Ra kills Jackson,

or his people do, but then he puts

:

01:21:29,210 --> 01:21:32,520

him in the sarcophagus to get healed?

:

01:21:32,530 --> 01:21:33,570

I don't what's that?

:

01:21:33,585 --> 01:21:34,485

Kevin and Eric: Oh, yeah.

:

01:21:34,625 --> 01:21:34,895

Nope.

:

01:21:34,915 --> 01:21:36,485

No, I have no I have no answer for that.

:

01:21:36,525 --> 01:21:42,785

It made absolutely zero sense other than

to Justify him putting his girlfriend

:

01:21:42,795 --> 01:21:43,785

in in the last team.

:

01:21:44,135 --> 01:21:48,025

That was that was the only reason

there was no reason for that So we

:

01:21:48,025 --> 01:21:51,005

do a lot of mo on, on Six Degrees of

Schwarzenegger, we do a lot of movie

:

01:21:51,005 --> 01:21:53,725

apologizing trying to figure out,

trying to make things make sense.

:

01:21:54,220 --> 01:21:54,710

Katie: Yeah, on

:

01:21:54,745 --> 01:21:57,345

Kevin and Eric: And I want, I want

to say maybe Ra wanted to have

:

01:21:57,345 --> 01:22:00,515

a conversation with this guy who

seemed to be like the brain to

:

01:22:00,515 --> 01:22:02,184

hear what's going on back on Earth.

:

01:22:02,785 --> 01:22:06,565

And this seemed like the smart guy

who understood the language, perhaps.

:

01:22:07,445 --> 01:22:07,765

But

:

01:22:07,930 --> 01:22:09,100

Katie: to kill him as well.

:

01:22:09,220 --> 01:22:09,570

And so,

:

01:22:09,765 --> 01:22:10,340

Kevin and Eric: but well, he was

:

01:22:10,350 --> 01:22:11,420

going to kill him afterwards,

:

01:22:11,420 --> 01:22:11,780

right?

:

01:22:12,150 --> 01:22:16,080

That was a weird moment when he brought

him back and then he told him, I'm going

:

01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:20,030

to have you kill all your friends and

then I'm going to kill you because then

:

01:22:20,030 --> 01:22:23,700

it seems like, well, at that point, what

is his incentive to go along with this?

:

01:22:23,710 --> 01:22:24,070

Right.

:

01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:24,870

Exactly.

:

01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:25,440

But.

:

01:22:25,860 --> 01:22:29,220

I do like that the sarcophagus

thing I think was like that's why

:

01:22:29,230 --> 01:22:30,930

he selected the human race, right?

:

01:22:30,930 --> 01:22:36,120

Cause he had the technology to fix these

bodies that he could live forever in a

:

01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,120

human body, like going in his sarcophagus.

:

01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,160

It was like the, what's

the star Wars thing?

:

01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,620

The, the water back to tank.

:

01:22:42,660 --> 01:22:42,900

Yeah.

:

01:22:42,900 --> 01:22:47,059

It's like the tank and star Wars

that would heal people or whatever.

:

01:22:47,059 --> 01:22:49,550

So I think that's why

he chose the human race.

:

01:22:50,635 --> 01:22:50,825

And

:

01:22:50,825 --> 01:22:51,755

then maybe why he had all

:

01:22:51,755 --> 01:22:54,765

those kids around were like if

he needed a new body to go into

:

01:22:54,765 --> 01:22:56,875

he'd select The next generation

:

01:22:57,355 --> 01:22:57,975

or something.

:

01:22:58,005 --> 01:22:59,335

I suspect that that's true.

:

01:22:59,345 --> 01:22:59,805

Yeah.

:

01:23:00,445 --> 01:23:03,434

Yeah raising new like

henchmen new goons Yeah,

:

01:23:03,434 --> 01:23:03,925

maybe he is.

:

01:23:03,995 --> 01:23:07,785

Yeah, it could be a twofer, you know, two

for one a bogo if I want to get one free

:

01:23:08,295 --> 01:23:08,955

Katie: Bogo.

:

01:23:09,815 --> 01:23:11,395

Oh, that's awesome.

:

01:23:11,815 --> 01:23:15,715

We were talking about the model shots,

and that this was in Yuma, Arizona.

:

01:23:16,215 --> 01:23:20,885

That is apparently where

Rambo 3 was also filmed.

:

01:23:21,395 --> 01:23:24,785

Kevin and Eric: I read that interesting

because doesn't one of these guys

:

01:23:24,785 --> 01:23:28,120

associated with the movie devlin

or or Or the other guy, I think he

:

01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,090

had something to do with Rambo 3.

:

01:23:30,150 --> 01:23:30,280

I

:

01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:35,530

know the, the, so the producer of the

movie is Mario Kassar, who was the

:

01:23:35,530 --> 01:23:37,790

producer of the original Rambo trilogy.

:

01:23:37,895 --> 01:23:38,395

Katie: Huh.

:

01:23:38,405 --> 01:23:38,755

Yes.

:

01:23:39,230 --> 01:23:39,440

Kevin and Eric: But

:

01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,700

he also did a lot of a lot

of 80s and 90s action movies.

:

01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,260

Terminator 2 was his, Universal

Soldier, and Cliffhanger,

:

01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:49,640

um, so he was like a big action guy.

:

01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,640

So maybe he had the

connections in Yuma to, To

:

01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:54,840

film there or whatever.

:

01:23:55,780 --> 01:23:55,900

It

:

01:23:56,010 --> 01:23:58,040

Arizona standing in for Afghanistan.

:

01:23:59,170 --> 01:23:59,930

Katie: deserty.

:

01:23:59,980 --> 01:24:00,570

I don't, I

:

01:24:00,590 --> 01:24:00,650

Kevin and Eric: it kind

:

01:24:00,650 --> 01:24:01,020

of worked.

:

01:24:01,090 --> 01:24:02,020

It kind of worked though.

:

01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,130

No one knows what Afghanistan looks like.

:

01:24:04,230 --> 01:24:08,190

Katie: it's all in that same

general area, Egypt, Afghanistan.

:

01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:08,490

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

01:24:08,490 --> 01:24:08,860

absolutely.

:

01:24:09,809 --> 01:24:11,330

Lots of deserts in that region.

:

01:24:12,090 --> 01:24:15,430

So, and why fly all the way to the other

side of the world when you can just

:

01:24:15,430 --> 01:24:19,300

go to Utah or Arizona, which is like

kind of close to LA in the scheme of

:

01:24:19,300 --> 01:24:20,430

things in the grand scheme of things.

:

01:24:20,510 --> 01:24:21,200

Katie: That's true.

:

01:24:21,490 --> 01:24:21,900

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:27,340

Katie: This movie apparently was the

first to have an official website.

:

01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:28,200

:

:

01:24:28,610 --> 01:24:29,110

Kevin and Eric: what?

:

01:24:29,150 --> 01:24:30,030

That's rad.

:

01:24:30,090 --> 01:24:30,710

I love it.

:

01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:31,960

I'm a hundred percent on board with that.

:

01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,540

That's the kind of trivia I'm here for.

:

01:24:33,540 --> 01:24:35,900

Was there anything like fancy

or interesting about it or

:

01:24:35,900 --> 01:24:37,280

was it just like basic HTML?

:

01:24:38,050 --> 01:24:39,690

It was GeoCities.

:

01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:41,650

Katie: can imagine what

websites looked like in the

:

01:24:41,850 --> 01:24:42,300

Kevin and Eric: I know.

:

01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:45,640

They're like flying

toasters or uh, yeah, yeah.

:

01:24:45,860 --> 01:24:46,900

Under construction.

:

01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:49,330

Every single thing had the under

construction man in the old sign.

:

01:24:50,615 --> 01:24:51,075

Olivia,

:

01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,650

Katie: the dial up sound right?

:

01:24:53,670 --> 01:24:54,870

That was dial up internet

:

01:24:56,325 --> 01:24:57,245

Kevin and Eric: please insert that in.

:

01:24:57,245 --> 01:24:58,585

That's one of my favorite sound effects.

:

01:24:58,625 --> 01:25:00,875

Was the, was the URL www.

:

01:25:00,925 --> 01:25:01,845

geocities.

:

01:25:01,855 --> 01:25:03,285

com slash stargate.

:

01:25:03,545 --> 01:25:03,745

movie.

:

01:25:06,105 --> 01:25:06,555

That's a fun

:

01:25:06,580 --> 01:25:07,940

Katie: Did you guys know that Hasbro

:

01:25:07,965 --> 01:25:09,835

Kevin and Eric: did, yeah, I

did know the action figures?

:

01:25:09,855 --> 01:25:11,365

I did not know about that.

:

01:25:11,415 --> 01:25:12,910

it was a good year for

action movies, though.

:

01:25:12,910 --> 01:25:15,010

There was a lot of cool stuff out in 94.

:

01:25:15,695 --> 01:25:16,175

Katie: I guess.

:

01:25:16,180 --> 01:25:17,780

Kevin and Eric: True

Lives and Speed were out.

:

01:25:17,790 --> 01:25:19,400

That was an awesome summer for action

:

01:25:19,465 --> 01:25:20,575

Katie: ooh.

:

01:25:21,135 --> 01:25:22,059

I, I don't know why.

:

01:25:22,059 --> 01:25:22,720

I was like, wow.

:

01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,130

They did action figures for this movie

:

01:25:25,295 --> 01:25:25,695

Kevin and Eric: I feel like

:

01:25:25,695 --> 01:25:27,815

they, this should have

been a franchise, right?

:

01:25:27,815 --> 01:25:28,035

There was

:

01:25:28,035 --> 01:25:29,855

no reason for there

not to be, more movies.

:

01:25:30,195 --> 01:25:31,145

It was, yeah.

:

01:25:31,145 --> 01:25:32,115

They wanted to make

:

01:25:32,115 --> 01:25:32,605

a more

:

01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:33,895

Katie: a, a trilogy

:

01:25:34,270 --> 01:25:35,880

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, absolutely.

:

01:25:35,890 --> 01:25:37,920

And it seems like Taylor made for that.

:

01:25:38,655 --> 01:25:39,165

Katie: It does.

:

01:25:39,165 --> 01:25:40,515

They needed better writing though.

:

01:25:40,545 --> 01:25:41,265

It, I don't know,

:

01:25:41,380 --> 01:25:43,020

Kevin and Eric: yeah, yeah.

:

01:25:43,260 --> 01:25:45,440

Although these guys went on and

did Independence Day, which was

:

01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:48,610

like one of the biggest, probably

moneymakers of the nineties.

:

01:25:48,770 --> 01:25:51,500

Again, not renowned for its story.

:

01:25:51,530 --> 01:25:55,130

No, no, you weren't going there

to see like great writing and

:

01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:56,830

yeah, Shakespearean performances.

:

01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,470

Although, I mean, the way Bill Pullman

delivered that speech in Independence

:

01:26:01,470 --> 01:26:01,900

Day.

:

01:26:01,925 --> 01:26:02,255

Katie: forgot.

:

01:26:02,255 --> 01:26:03,725

He was the president, wasn't he?

:

01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,850

Kevin and Eric: You know, Jeff Goldblum

could have been amazing in the, in the

:

01:26:06,850 --> 01:26:08,800

James Spader character in this movie as

:

01:26:09,005 --> 01:26:10,655

Katie: Oh, for sure.

:

01:26:10,745 --> 01:26:11,375

Yeah.

:

01:26:11,470 --> 01:26:14,030

Kevin and Eric: just done that same

character, I feel like, in Jurassic Park.

:

01:26:14,030 --> 01:26:14,540

So maybe that's

:

01:26:14,740 --> 01:26:15,800

why he's like, I'm done.

:

01:26:15,809 --> 01:26:18,740

Well, you, I feel like he was

probably worried about being typecast

:

01:26:18,809 --> 01:26:22,360

because he played also sort of

the science nerd in the fly.

:

01:26:22,420 --> 01:26:23,520

He's got that going for him.

:

01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,700

And he's also a giant.

:

01:26:25,330 --> 01:26:25,700

He's huge.

:

01:26:25,700 --> 01:26:27,900

He probably would make Kurt Russell

look really short and that'd be

:

01:26:29,220 --> 01:26:31,620

Katie: Jeff Goldblum is a, he's a gem.

:

01:26:31,620 --> 01:26:32,600

I like him a lot.

:

01:26:32,675 --> 01:26:33,845

Kevin and Eric: Oh yeah, He's great.

:

01:26:33,845 --> 01:26:34,934

He's a great actor.

:

01:26:35,995 --> 01:26:38,975

I don't know if you've ever seen him

in Portlandia where he's basically

:

01:26:38,975 --> 01:26:41,025

just doing caricatures of himself.

:

01:26:41,045 --> 01:26:44,795

There's a sketch where he runs

a knot shop, like you go in

:

01:26:44,795 --> 01:26:47,795

and you buy three knotted lengths of yarn.

:

01:26:48,230 --> 01:26:49,140

Katie: Oh my God.

:

01:26:49,790 --> 01:26:51,500

I haven't seen Portlandia.

:

01:26:51,825 --> 01:26:52,745

Kevin and Eric: Oh, it's, a, it's,

:

01:26:53,065 --> 01:26:55,945

I lived in Seattle for almost 20 years.

:

01:26:56,605 --> 01:27:02,515

And, uh, you know, Seattle is, is like

a, a wealthier version of Portland,

:

01:27:02,515 --> 01:27:04,485

but it's not Portland's not far away.

:

01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,309

And so when you go to Portland

and you watch Portland, you're

:

01:27:07,309 --> 01:27:08,900

like, no, this is accurate.

:

01:27:08,930 --> 01:27:11,150

This is more of a documentary

than a sketch show.

:

01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:12,950

Katie: Oh really?

:

01:27:13,460 --> 01:27:14,390

Oh, I love that.

:

01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:15,050

That's funny.

:

01:27:16,260 --> 01:27:20,240

A few other little bits

of trivia, you guys.

:

01:27:20,260 --> 01:27:25,670

So, the planet that, so you might know

this, Eric, in the Stargate series.

:

01:27:27,059 --> 01:27:31,450

Although the planet visited is

never referred to by name, the

:

01:27:31,450 --> 01:27:35,570

spin off TV series would reveal

that the planet's name is Abydos.

:

01:27:37,150 --> 01:27:37,820

Kevin and Eric: Abydos.

:

01:27:37,870 --> 01:27:38,550

Okay.

:

01:27:38,610 --> 01:27:39,559

That's correct.

:

01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:44,170

And that was, that was established

before the series as a child,

:

01:27:44,190 --> 01:27:45,280

I love the movie so much.

:

01:27:45,309 --> 01:27:48,750

I read the novelization spinoff sequels.

:

01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:50,160

Katie: Oh, wow.

:

01:27:50,309 --> 01:27:50,920

Oh.

:

01:27:51,115 --> 01:27:52,205

Kevin and Eric: And you were a, you

:

01:27:52,205 --> 01:27:52,684

were into it.

:

01:27:52,705 --> 01:27:53,365

I was into it.

:

01:27:53,365 --> 01:27:53,715

when I was

:

01:27:53,715 --> 01:27:54,184

a kid.

:

01:27:54,225 --> 01:27:54,395

Nerd.

:

01:27:54,465 --> 01:27:54,835

alert.

:

01:27:55,155 --> 01:27:55,825

Indeed.

:

01:27:55,945 --> 01:27:58,845

And most of those books take

place on the planet, and in

:

01:27:58,845 --> 01:28:00,165

those books they call it Abydos.

:

01:28:00,335 --> 01:28:05,115

I thought you were going to say it was

called Dune, because the planet really has

:

01:28:05,115 --> 01:28:07,585

the similar vibes to to Arrakis from Dune.

:

01:28:07,625 --> 01:28:08,275

That is true.

:

01:28:08,510 --> 01:28:11,110

Yeah, it's like just

desert world, whatever.

:

01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:13,550

But that's a, that's a

sci fi staple though.

:

01:28:13,700 --> 01:28:15,420

Your desert planet, your water planet.

:

01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:16,050

Oh yeah.

:

01:28:16,235 --> 01:28:19,875

Katie: Oh, see, I didn't really

realize that since I'm not a,

:

01:28:20,345 --> 01:28:20,865

not a sci

:

01:28:20,970 --> 01:28:22,920

Kevin and Eric: Oh yeah, you know,

you're not into the, you know, like

:

01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:23,740

gravitate to the

:

01:28:23,809 --> 01:28:24,370

sci fi.

:

01:28:24,545 --> 01:28:25,695

Katie: Definitely not.

:

01:28:26,355 --> 01:28:31,705

I did like that they called

it though, the Calium, Calium?

:

01:28:31,765 --> 01:28:32,415

Galaxy?

:

01:28:32,455 --> 01:28:33,125

In the movie?

:

01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:34,070

Kevin and Eric: Is that a

:

01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:34,770

real thing?

:

01:28:35,285 --> 01:28:36,245

Katie: I don't know.

:

01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:36,490

Kevin and Eric: I

:

01:28:36,490 --> 01:28:37,360

didn't google it either.

:

01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,290

Yeah, it's cool that they actually gave it

:

01:28:39,290 --> 01:28:41,309

a kind of a temporal, I mean not a

:

01:28:41,309 --> 01:28:41,710

temporal,

:

01:28:41,710 --> 01:28:42,920

but a spatial, yeah.

:

01:28:43,010 --> 01:28:45,520

That was another beef I had with the

movie though, is it was right, it

:

01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,260

was on the far side of the universe.

:

01:28:48,025 --> 01:28:48,934

Katie: Mmm.

:

01:28:48,970 --> 01:28:51,770

Kevin and Eric: but yet they were

getting pictures back like in real time.

:

01:28:52,370 --> 01:28:56,100

And I was like, Oh, if that's like

hundreds of millions of light years

:

01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:59,200

away, it would take hundreds of

millions of years for a picture

:

01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,430

to, to, to get back to earth.

:

01:29:01,559 --> 01:29:03,702

Kevin, let me explain to

you how wormholes work.

:

01:29:03,702 --> 01:29:06,800

Oh, was it going through the Stargate?

:

01:29:06,860 --> 01:29:07,620

The signal was through

:

01:29:07,620 --> 01:29:08,130

the Stargate.

:

01:29:08,130 --> 01:29:08,370

Okay.

:

01:29:09,025 --> 01:29:09,665

Katie: because they were like,

:

01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:10,400

Kevin and Eric: Let's go with that.

:

01:29:10,745 --> 01:29:11,145

Katie: weren't they?

:

01:29:11,265 --> 01:29:11,845

Like to

:

01:29:12,285 --> 01:29:12,575

Kevin and Eric: but

:

01:29:12,615 --> 01:29:13,855

I don't know how that could work.

:

01:29:13,915 --> 01:29:17,155

But like you said, maybe the signal comes

through the Stargate and that's how it got

:

01:29:17,155 --> 01:29:17,725

there quick.

:

01:29:18,235 --> 01:29:19,065

Otherwise it would take

:

01:29:19,075 --> 01:29:21,305

years, hundreds of millions of years.

:

01:29:21,870 --> 01:29:23,990

Katie: I actually feel

like that does make sense.

:

01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:25,590

I'm like, yeah, I was going through the

:

01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:26,460

Kevin and Eric: okay.

:

01:29:26,510 --> 01:29:27,370

Yeah, I'm

:

01:29:27,410 --> 01:29:28,500

I'm, I'm here for it.

:

01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:29,820

I want to forgive these movies.

:

01:29:31,420 --> 01:29:32,240

For an excuse.

:

01:29:32,660 --> 01:29:36,690

Katie: okay, a couple of castings.

:

01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:42,160

I forgot to look up who

Sir John Gielgud is.

:

01:29:42,670 --> 01:29:43,700

Do you guys know who he is?

:

01:29:44,350 --> 01:29:46,559

Kevin and Eric: do know who

Sir John Gilgud is or at

:

01:29:46,559 --> 01:29:47,930

least I recognize the name.

:

01:29:48,180 --> 01:29:48,710

I don't.

:

01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:49,880

He's Googling or

:

01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:50,760

I'm Googling right

:

01:29:50,940 --> 01:29:54,380

Katie: He's a Sir and he

was on the list to play Ra,

:

01:29:54,650 --> 01:29:55,460

apparently.

:

01:29:56,210 --> 01:29:56,540

I was.

:

01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:57,790

Kevin and Eric: Yeah,

he's a British actor.

:

01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:01,430

Oh, so he's not in the

movie, but he was on the,

:

01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:01,809

Katie: He

:

01:30:01,910 --> 01:30:04,240

Kevin and Eric: he's an older,

he would have been an older guy.

:

01:30:04,250 --> 01:30:04,770

Yeah.

:

01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,559

Katie: I mean, unless he is a

sir now, but he wasn't then.

:

01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:14,430

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, I mean he he

definitely I think he got that title

:

01:30:14,430 --> 01:30:15,800

later in life after he was pretty

:

01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,610

well established But yeah, he's

:

01:30:17,610 --> 01:30:17,900

a

:

01:30:17,900 --> 01:30:23,780

he's a bit of a character actor at least

overall in the the larger Hollywood scene.

:

01:30:24,100 --> 01:30:28,070

But he was a huge television actor

in especially in great Britain.

:

01:30:28,630 --> 01:30:30,610

Katie: Does he have an

Egyptian look to him?

:

01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:31,490

Kevin and Eric: No, no, no, no.

:

01:30:31,490 --> 01:30:32,930

Generic British white guy.

:

01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:33,660

Yeah.

:

01:30:33,660 --> 01:30:35,570

that's a strange that he was on the list.

:

01:30:35,580 --> 01:30:35,890

yeah, yeah.

:

01:30:35,890 --> 01:30:36,550

yeah.

:

01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:37,059

Katie: Okay.

:

01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:41,200

Kevin and Eric: It's also interesting to

me that they would be wavering between

:

01:30:41,230 --> 01:30:43,490

casting someone really young as this

:

01:30:43,490 --> 01:30:45,430

J Davidson seems young

:

01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,190

or casting someone who's like

in his fifties, you know?

:

01:30:49,130 --> 01:30:50,980

I mean, I think they went with

the right direction with it.

:

01:30:50,980 --> 01:30:53,250

I think the young thing was a good choice.

:

01:30:53,250 --> 01:30:53,600

Yeah.

:

01:30:54,410 --> 01:30:56,420

Katie: Yeah, they would have

had to change who he took over.

:

01:30:56,420 --> 01:30:57,650

But yeah, I, I agree

:

01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,770

Kevin and Eric: If you were an

alien who was looking to take over.

:

01:31:02,465 --> 01:31:06,545

I think you'd rather hop

into, like, a 20 year old guy

:

01:31:06,555 --> 01:31:08,875

rather than a 50 year old guy's body to

:

01:31:09,735 --> 01:31:10,445

Katie: absolutely.

:

01:31:11,005 --> 01:31:11,565

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

:

01:31:11,815 --> 01:31:15,865

Katie: Any guesses for who was

actually offered the role of Dr.

:

01:31:15,865 --> 01:31:17,745

Daniel Jackson but turned it down?

:

01:31:18,555 --> 01:31:19,035

Kevin and Eric: Oh.

:

01:31:19,105 --> 01:31:19,675

Oh.

:

01:31:19,745 --> 01:31:20,455

Katie: He's nerdy.

:

01:31:20,465 --> 01:31:21,695

He's known for being nerdy.

:

01:31:22,355 --> 01:31:22,885

I'll give you that

:

01:31:23,175 --> 01:31:25,515

Kevin and Eric: Nerdy in the early 90s.

:

01:31:25,845 --> 01:31:27,465

I'm gonna say Jim Carrey.

:

01:31:27,735 --> 01:31:28,065

No.

:

01:31:28,405 --> 01:31:29,835

No, That'd be awesome, though.

:

01:31:30,184 --> 01:31:31,845

That would've been a

whole different movie.

:

01:31:31,845 --> 01:31:32,455

It would've been very different.

:

01:31:32,455 --> 01:31:33,405

I have no guesses.

:

01:31:34,010 --> 01:31:35,260

I'm, I gotta know.

:

01:31:35,445 --> 01:31:36,535

Katie: Rick Moranis.

:

01:31:36,535 --> 01:31:38,235

Yeah,

:

01:31:38,350 --> 01:31:39,030

Kevin and Eric: read that.

:

01:31:39,070 --> 01:31:39,690

I did read that.

:

01:31:39,700 --> 01:31:41,030

That would have been extra weird.

:

01:31:41,030 --> 01:31:42,690

That would have been a bad choice.

:

01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,260

I mean, character, comedy, actor.

:

01:31:45,260 --> 01:31:47,450

I mean, I was in, I was

in the same ballpark.

:

01:31:47,559 --> 01:31:48,330

I don't, yeah.

:

01:31:48,330 --> 01:31:48,690

I was in right

:

01:31:48,690 --> 01:31:50,020

field, not left field.

:

01:31:50,305 --> 01:31:50,565

Katie: right.

:

01:31:50,565 --> 01:31:53,315

I guess I just don't see Jim

Carrey as being, like, nerdy.

:

01:31:54,050 --> 01:31:54,760

Kevin and Eric: No, that's true.

:

01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:55,590

He's not nerdy.

:

01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:56,610

He's goofy.

:

01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:57,250

Yeah,

:

01:31:57,390 --> 01:31:59,680

Yeah, I could never see Rick Moranis.

:

01:31:59,780 --> 01:32:00,450

No.

:

01:32:00,490 --> 01:32:00,860

In this.

:

01:32:00,870 --> 01:32:02,050

That'd be strange.

:

01:32:02,455 --> 01:32:02,695

Katie: I

:

01:32:02,915 --> 01:32:04,695

Kevin and Eric: I'm glad they

went with Spade or someone with

:

01:32:04,695 --> 01:32:06,145

a little bit of sex appeal.

:

01:32:06,850 --> 01:32:07,500

Katie: you're right.

:

01:32:07,510 --> 01:32:08,200

You're right.

:

01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,100

They did make the right choice.

:

01:32:10,559 --> 01:32:12,470

But so he turned it to Moranis.

:

01:32:12,530 --> 01:32:16,410

They offered it to him, but

he turned it down to play.

:

01:32:16,450 --> 01:32:21,850

What he did do instead was

the Flintstones movie and, and

:

01:32:21,885 --> 01:32:22,945

Kevin and Eric: was he in Little Giants.

:

01:32:22,945 --> 01:32:23,165

too?

:

01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:23,860

Katie: Giants.

:

01:32:23,860 --> 01:32:24,070

Little

:

01:32:24,275 --> 01:32:25,275

Kevin and Eric: Oh, wow.

:

01:32:25,525 --> 01:32:26,445

Which you mentioned earlier, it

:

01:32:26,445 --> 01:32:27,295

was out like at the same

:

01:32:27,305 --> 01:32:27,705

time.

:

01:32:27,705 --> 01:32:27,865

Yeah.

:

01:32:27,865 --> 01:32:30,735

You got to make your choices,

Stargate or Little Giants.

:

01:32:31,595 --> 01:32:31,945

Oh,

:

01:32:33,255 --> 01:32:33,465

that's

:

01:32:33,490 --> 01:32:34,740

Katie: I shrunk the kids, man.

:

01:32:34,750 --> 01:32:36,020

That's, I love, Yeah.

:

01:32:36,195 --> 01:32:37,184

Kevin and Eric: That's an all timer.

:

01:32:37,184 --> 01:32:37,934

Yeah.

:

01:32:37,934 --> 01:32:38,655

I was big on that.

:

01:32:38,655 --> 01:32:39,265

That's a classic.

:

01:32:39,285 --> 01:32:41,105

I will never forget them.

:

01:32:41,625 --> 01:32:46,525

Using the the carrot and the stick to,

to ride the ant around the backyard.

:

01:32:46,575 --> 01:32:47,325

Absolutely.

:

01:32:47,365 --> 01:32:48,945

When I was a kid, I wanted to do that so

:

01:32:48,945 --> 01:32:49,434

much.

:

01:32:49,445 --> 01:32:53,805

I have a picture of me and my sisters at

Disney or wherever on that, on the ant.

:

01:32:53,825 --> 01:32:57,545

They had a Honey I Shrunk the Kids world

and they had a giant ant that you could

:

01:32:57,545 --> 01:32:59,325

get on for photos and stuff like that.

:

01:32:59,335 --> 01:33:00,595

Oh, that's so cool.

:

01:33:00,950 --> 01:33:01,740

Katie: Yeah, good.

:

01:33:01,770 --> 01:33:03,420

That was a good franchise for sure.

:

01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,300

Kevin and Eric: and him and

Ghostbusters is absolutely killer,

:

01:33:06,650 --> 01:33:09,860

but you know, yeah, that's I can't

see him in a movie like this, though.

:

01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:10,500

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:33:10,540 --> 01:33:11,059

I agree.

:

01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,980

Do you guys have any closing

thoughts on Stargate?

:

01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:20,680

Kevin and Eric: I will say, all things

considered, I mean, if you are looking,

:

01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,820

if you're into that kind of thing, if

you're into that kind of genre, and

:

01:33:23,820 --> 01:33:28,790

you're looking for a bit of a throwback

to the, to the sort of waning years of

:

01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:33,850

the old school blockbuster movies, I think

you could do a lot worse than Stargate.

:

01:33:33,930 --> 01:33:37,080

I think it's, it's not as grand

in scope as Independence Day.

:

01:33:37,730 --> 01:33:38,270

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:33:38,434 --> 01:33:40,965

Kevin and Eric: And it ended up being

a little bit more grounded as a result.

:

01:33:40,965 --> 01:33:45,345

I mean, I would rather, I prefer,

I think this movie is better than

:

01:33:45,345 --> 01:33:50,785

Independence Day personally as a viewing

experience or as a, as a quality film.

:

01:33:51,605 --> 01:33:56,195

Independence Day was more like about, look

how big of a blockbuster this is to me.

:

01:33:56,195 --> 01:33:56,885

But yeah.

:

01:33:57,205 --> 01:33:57,745

So, yeah.

:

01:33:57,745 --> 01:34:00,985

So, I mean, I think if you're into that

kind of thing and you, you, you want to

:

01:34:00,985 --> 01:34:05,770

see a movie that was sort of at the tail

end of that whole, you know, You could do

:

01:34:05,770 --> 01:34:07,920

a lot worse than Stargate, in my opinion.

:

01:34:08,510 --> 01:34:12,469

Yeah, I would advise anyone who's into

sci fi, if you haven't seen this movie,

:

01:34:12,469 --> 01:34:13,800

it's definitely worth checking out.

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01:34:13,900 --> 01:34:18,200

If you're a Kurt Russell guy, or fan, I

guess it's worth checking out as well.

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01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,120

Yeah, I have nothing bad,

really, to say about it.

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01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,990

In the grand scheme of things, like,

it's better than most of what comes out.

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01:34:24,340 --> 01:34:24,670

Yeah.

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01:34:24,670 --> 01:34:25,139

Today.

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01:34:26,110 --> 01:34:27,280

Katie: I will give you that.

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01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:28,000

Yes.

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01:34:28,540 --> 01:34:28,980

Kevin and Eric: Yeah,

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01:34:29,050 --> 01:34:33,360

Katie: Yeah, no, you guys bring up valid

points and I'm giving it a hard time.

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01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:34,219

Kevin and Eric: No,

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01:34:34,250 --> 01:34:35,480

justifiably so.

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01:34:35,490 --> 01:34:38,110

Like I said, everything you said

is like, yeah, no, that's true.

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01:34:40,125 --> 01:34:41,705

Rank it on a 10 point scale then?

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01:34:41,705 --> 01:34:42,395

Okay, yeah.

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01:34:42,465 --> 01:34:43,255

Or how do you do, how

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01:34:43,255 --> 01:34:43,315

do

:

01:34:43,315 --> 01:34:44,344

you, how do you rank your

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01:34:44,820 --> 01:34:47,660

Katie: well, I don't

typically on retro made give

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01:34:47,835 --> 01:34:48,745

Kevin and Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,610

Katie: But like, I, okay.

:

01:34:50,610 --> 01:34:53,900

So if 5 is average, 10 is the best you can

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01:34:53,915 --> 01:34:54,835

Kevin and Eric: The best thing ever.

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01:34:54,855 --> 01:34:55,205

Yeah.

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01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:56,450

Katie: Like a 3 and a half.

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01:34:56,735 --> 01:34:58,225

Kevin and Eric: Wow.

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01:34:58,225 --> 01:34:58,275

Okay.

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01:34:58,275 --> 01:34:58,885

Alright.

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01:34:58,895 --> 01:35:00,075

Below average.

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01:35:00,094 --> 01:35:00,875

Okay.

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01:35:01,014 --> 01:35:01,645

That's fair.

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01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,790

Katie: Yeah, it just was not for me.

:

01:35:04,210 --> 01:35:08,100

Like I said, Egypt is really

fascinating and so I was like, Oh,

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01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:10,440

well, if you add Kurt to the mix.

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01:35:11,395 --> 01:35:12,045

Kevin and Eric: of course.

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01:35:12,155 --> 01:35:14,465

Katie: mean, like, how can you go wrong?

:

01:35:14,985 --> 01:35:17,155

But it did go wrong

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01:35:17,445 --> 01:35:17,965

for me.

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01:35:18,025 --> 01:35:19,184

Kevin and Eric: Okay, okay.

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01:35:19,465 --> 01:35:19,995

Katie: not for me,

:

01:35:20,305 --> 01:35:23,145

but Kevin, Eric, you guys were the best.

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01:35:23,145 --> 01:35:24,885

Thank you so much for joining

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01:35:25,275 --> 01:35:25,934

Kevin and Eric: Oh, us.

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01:35:25,985 --> 01:35:28,545

We want to have you on

our podcast sometime soon.

:

01:35:29,125 --> 01:35:33,105

You're a, you're a Stallone fan

above all in terms of action heroes.

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01:35:33,245 --> 01:35:33,805

Katie: Yes.

:

01:35:33,865 --> 01:35:36,264

But I like, I like Van Damme.

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01:35:36,264 --> 01:35:37,215

I liked all

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01:35:38,195 --> 01:35:38,594

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

:

01:35:38,605 --> 01:35:40,094

Katie: I like Schwarzenegger.

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01:35:41,035 --> 01:35:41,725

Kevin and Eric: We'll be back with

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01:35:41,725 --> 01:35:42,594

some options for you.

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01:35:42,594 --> 01:35:42,705

Cause

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01:35:42,705 --> 01:35:42,855

we'd

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01:35:42,855 --> 01:35:44,375

love to have you on pick your brain.

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01:35:44,385 --> 01:35:46,844

Have you seen all of those movies

or are there a lot that you haven't

:

01:35:47,094 --> 01:35:49,594

Katie: There's probably

plenty that I haven't seen.

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01:35:49,855 --> 01:35:50,405

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

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01:35:50,505 --> 01:35:51,014

Okay.

:

01:35:51,550 --> 01:35:54,400

Katie: but yeah, remind

us about six degrees.

:

01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:55,570

Where should we go to

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01:35:55,725 --> 01:35:55,915

Kevin and Eric: Yeah.

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01:35:55,915 --> 01:35:57,325

Tell them about the socials.

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01:35:57,344 --> 01:35:57,684

Yeah.

:

01:35:57,684 --> 01:36:01,025

so again, we're at the

six, the number six DOS.

:

01:36:01,135 --> 01:36:03,855

Podcast six degrees of

Schwarzenegger podcast.

:

01:36:04,225 --> 01:36:06,434

It's, it's the same thing for Facebook.

:

01:36:06,475 --> 01:36:10,055

If I remember correctly, Facebook,

Instagram, SoundCloud, SoundCloud is

:

01:36:10,055 --> 01:36:11,115

where you can listen to the podcast.

:

01:36:11,155 --> 01:36:12,725

You can find us on Spotify.

:

01:36:13,865 --> 01:36:15,014

It's on Apple podcasts.

:

01:36:15,205 --> 01:36:15,775

It's on.

:

01:36:16,380 --> 01:36:19,230

It's basically on anything

that SoundCloud distributes

:

01:36:19,230 --> 01:36:20,559

to, you're going to find it on.

:

01:36:20,850 --> 01:36:24,730

And then we all land, we all land on the,

the last of the action heroes podcast

:

01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:29,120

network as well, which Ryan runs and which

several of your shows I think are on,

:

01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,210

or you're part of several shows there.

:

01:36:32,620 --> 01:36:35,300

Katie: on the rocky like one

more round and then I guessed

:

01:36:35,300 --> 01:36:36,790

on a couple from time to time.

:

01:36:36,990 --> 01:36:37,600

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

:

01:36:37,660 --> 01:36:37,889

Okay.

:

01:36:37,900 --> 01:36:40,240

yeah So those are really the best places.

:

01:36:40,309 --> 01:36:44,580

Um, we, we post about like what

movies we're going to be doing

:

01:36:44,580 --> 01:36:46,110

and sort of any updates there.

:

01:36:46,110 --> 01:36:49,980

And mostly just silly meme stuff

just to entertain ourselves

:

01:36:49,980 --> 01:36:50,870

more than anything else.

:

01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:53,530

But you know, we just want to keep

people updated about what we're doing.

:

01:36:53,530 --> 01:36:57,660

So at the time this episode will come

out, I think we will have had a series

:

01:36:57,660 --> 01:37:01,880

on action Jackson, a little look back

at Carl Weathers which is a crazy movie.

:

01:37:02,110 --> 01:37:04,600

If you haven't seen action

Jackson, Check that out.

:

01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:05,200

Yeah, for sure.

:

01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:05,360

Yeah.

:

01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,750

We did red Dawn, Conan, the

destroyer and face off recently.

:

01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:10,780

So we're a little all over the place.

:

01:37:10,780 --> 01:37:12,889

But yeah, we always come

back to Arnold in the end.

:

01:37:13,190 --> 01:37:14,920

He's our, our North star.

:

01:37:15,820 --> 01:37:16,559

Always our North

:

01:37:16,615 --> 01:37:17,085

Katie: a big fan.

:

01:37:17,085 --> 01:37:18,045

I listen to it all.

:

01:37:18,105 --> 01:37:18,665

I love it.

:

01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:19,420

Kevin and Eric: Okay.

:

01:37:19,420 --> 01:37:19,639

Great.

:

01:37:19,639 --> 01:37:20,020

Wonderful.

:

01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:20,420

Thank you.

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01:37:20,945 --> 01:37:24,155

Katie: And thank you all

for listening or watching.

:

01:37:24,855 --> 01:37:27,105

Don't forget to share the nostalgia.

:

01:37:27,105 --> 01:37:31,695

Share RetroMate so more nerds

like us can, join the party.

:

01:37:32,245 --> 01:37:36,155

Until next time, be kind, rewind.

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Welcome to the Retromade Podcast, where we take a nostalgic trip down memory lane and explore the best of the 80s and 90s pop culture.

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