Episode 44
Uncle Buck | S2E2
Join us as we travel back to August 1989 to investigate Uncle Buck, the John Hughes comedy that gave us John Candy at his finest, a young Macaulay Culkin, and one unforgettable giant pancake. We'll dive into the film’s impact as well as the time capsule memories of 1989!
I'm joined by returning guests, Scott & Steve from The Cheeky Basterds Podcast: Men of Action & Dropping a Bruce. They are also both on the Last of the Action Heroes Podcast Network.
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Transcript
Where do you live?
Speaker:The city.
Speaker:Do you have a house, apartment owner?
Speaker:Rent.
Speaker:Rent?
Speaker:What do you do for a living?
Speaker:Lots of things.
Speaker:Where's your office?
Speaker:I don't have one.
Speaker:How come?
Speaker:I don't need one.
Speaker:Where's your wife?
Speaker:Don't have one.
Speaker:How come?
Speaker:It's a long story.
Speaker:Do you have kids?
Speaker:No, I don't.
Speaker:How come?
Speaker:It's an even longer story.
Speaker:Wait, my dad's brother.
Speaker:I'm your dad's brother already now.
Speaker:Buck.
Speaker:Russer had always been the black sheep of the family.
Speaker:I'm stunned that I'm related to you until one night Buck.
Speaker:We have a problem with the kids.
Speaker:We're stuck for somebody to watch them.
Speaker:Oh, please not that Can I trust him, my brother, for God's sake.
Speaker:I won't let him get into that Satan stuff or any of the new chicks.
Speaker:I'll leave that for me.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:I'm kidding.
Speaker:Now he's making them breakfast.
Speaker:Cigar, no thanks.
Speaker:Making them lunch
Speaker:and making them crazy.
Speaker:What did you do?
Speaker:He is irresistible, and I wanna ask you why I'm so attracted to you.
Speaker:I, I wouldn't even guess at that.
Speaker:Whoa.
Speaker:Oh, he's unbelievable.
Speaker:I'm Anita or God.
Speaker:I'm Buck melanoma.
Speaker:Molly Russell's wart.
Speaker:He's would you, John Candy as Uncle Buck.
Speaker:What does he like to drink?
Speaker:I've been leaving the toilet seats up.
Speaker:Is that what the blue water is?
Speaker:It's not good for him, huh?
Speaker:Uncle Buck.
Speaker:The new comedy from John Hughes.
Speaker:You have much more hair than your nose than my dad.
Speaker:Nice of you to notice I'm a kid.
Speaker:That's my job.
Speaker:Coming soon to a theater near you.
Speaker:Hello.
Speaker:Hello.
Speaker:I'm Katie and this is Retro Made, your pop culture rewind.
Speaker:is season two and you are in for an epic ride.
Speaker:John Hughes, Shermer High and beyond.
Speaker:Today I have two returning guests from last season, Scott and Steve.
Speaker:Thank you for coming back to do this John Hughes season with me on Retro Made.
Speaker:Tell us what's new with you guys and
Speaker:thank you for asking us.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:Oh my friend over there, the older, the older gentleman.
Speaker:across the pond.
Speaker:Go first.
Speaker:Go ahead, Steve.
Speaker:Give her a little information.
Speaker:We're halfway through, we're just over halfway through dropping a Bruce.
Speaker:Our Bruce Willis straight to video, or straight to disc,
Speaker:straight to streaming extravaganza.
Speaker:as we
Speaker:The STD, the Bruce Willis STDs, so we're just, we're just
Speaker:over halfway through on that.
Speaker:Which is Been a bit of an ordeal, Scott?
Speaker:I think it's
Speaker:Yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker:You know, I think we've, I've said it on a couple of places.
Speaker:It's sad because we're watching a hero of both of ours as a kid, you know, grow up.
Speaker:I mean, Steve and I've talked about it on our men of action where, you know, whether
Speaker:good or bad, the, the movies of the 80s kind of informed what male role models and
Speaker:what we thought men were supposed to be.
Speaker:And Willis as John McClane is probably the biggest example of
Speaker:Stallone's awesome, but Rambo and Schwarzenegger, those guys aren't real.
Speaker:That's, that's like, it's like an action figure type of life that you're,
Speaker:you know, only very few can attain.
Speaker:John McClane from Bruce Willis felt like we could actually be John McClane.
Speaker:And to then, obviously, obviously I do Church with Tarantino, then to have
Speaker:him in Pulp Fiction, and now to see, you know, now that he's longer able
Speaker:to act anymore, And now we're really at the point where we're watching
Speaker:the aphasia really peek through.
Speaker:It is like watching it's, you know, I know probably some of your listeners
Speaker:or even people, maybe yourself, but dementia sucks for the people
Speaker:who are obviously going through.
Speaker:We have no idea how they feel, but to watch a loved one disappear
Speaker:before your eyes is very tough.
Speaker:And that's kind of like what Steve and I are going through.
Speaker:We're having a good time watching the movies and, you know,
Speaker:having our fun times with it.
Speaker:But at the same time, we're watching our hero disappear before our eyes.
Speaker:Like just, just disappear before our eyes and that's kind of a sad melancholy
Speaker:kind of trip, you know, I mean,
Speaker:Yeah, it's bittersweet.
Speaker:it, but you're kind of like, man, you know, I mean, it's like somebody
Speaker:is going to be like, Oh my God, it's John McClane at the end.
Speaker:I'll say it's like, do I've been faking it the whole time.
Speaker:You know, I'm not, I'm being meta.
Speaker:I'm a, he's Andy coughing it where he's just like, you know, it's a whole bit.
Speaker:It's just.
Speaker:Bruce Willis is now kind of gone,
Speaker:Yeah, it's bittersweet.
Speaker:It's bittersweet.
Speaker:Definitely.
Speaker:through, I mean, I
Speaker:We're just just over, aren't we?
Speaker:to be like, you know,
Speaker:if they're anything like where we're in shit show centrals, what
Speaker:they are, they are, they've been
Speaker:There's been some we've had a few surprises this week.
Speaker:You know, currently, but it's been a rough, it's been,
Speaker:two was
Speaker:it's getting rougher and rougher as it goes, but You never
Speaker:know what you're gonna get,
Speaker:never
Speaker:you know, you never know, so.
Speaker:Or who's going to be in them.
Speaker:That's the fun part too.
Speaker:It's like, you're like, how did this person, you, you kind of find
Speaker:like these careers of what I would say, like CW stars or the WB or,
Speaker:you know, shows over in America.
Speaker:You're like, Oh, those guys were popular back in the early two thousands.
Speaker:And now you're like, what did they ever do?
Speaker:were
Speaker:This is what they did.
Speaker:That's what they were in.
Speaker:They found a new life there.
Speaker:Super fun.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:Oh, my
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:yes, Scott.
Speaker:You said you have a church of Tarantino.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:in season four.
Speaker:Now it's basically a weekly podcast because I've got psychological problems.
Speaker:It's the only way to get through what we're going through.
Speaker:You and I, Katie here and
Speaker:Ignorance.
Speaker:It's a, just kind of put your head down and
Speaker:true.
Speaker:that your little bubble is all that's around you and you just
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:grin and bear it, white knuckle it.
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:I'll be honest with you.
Speaker:This is not to be glib.
Speaker:I sometimes right now, I kind of wish I was in Bruce Willis's shoes.
Speaker:He's having a great time.
Speaker:He doesn't know what's going on and it's probably the best way to live right now.
Speaker:I know this sounds terrible, but he's not.
Speaker:Yeah, it is.
Speaker:But you know, so that's going really well and then Steve and I also,
Speaker:we also have the men of action and we are halfway through season
Speaker:three,
Speaker:but season two of the, of the shift to the men of action and
Speaker:we've been having fun with that.
Speaker:So,
Speaker:We're going through some, we're doing a lot of sequels at the moment.
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:them against each other, you know, not That's that's been surprising as well.
Speaker:I've had some
Speaker:kind of doing some, what you do.
Speaker:We just so far February episode.
Speaker:We have to Eddie Murphy's where we did another 48 hours and we did,
Speaker:Beverly Hills Cop too.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Mmm.
Speaker:it's that nostalgia.
Speaker:You we've learned that sometimes how we remember the movies.
Speaker:We'll probably talk about from good luck and what really happens in the movie.
Speaker:sometimes not the same anymore after 30 plus years of of remembering them.
Speaker:So yeah, fun journeys, fun journeys.
Speaker:We, we enjoy it.
Speaker:It's, it's always been about the conversation for us.
Speaker:So we just kind of enjoy each other's balls, busting the balls that people made
Speaker:these films and having fun with them.
Speaker:And then like it.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:If not
Speaker:you all should tune in.
Speaker:All their stuff will be in the show notes.
Speaker:So
Speaker:Oh, thank you.
Speaker:So we're going to go back to 1989 for the time capsule.
Speaker:wish we could.
Speaker:Is this real?
Speaker:Am I being sucked through my computer?
Speaker:Please.
Speaker:This is really good.
Speaker:We're going to 89.
Speaker:Oh
Speaker:to 89 and I have put a new spin pun intended on the time capsule.
Speaker:So let's start by opening it from August 1989.
Speaker:OkaY.
Speaker:Ooh.
Speaker:This is high tech.
Speaker:12
Speaker:Categories in the retro made time capsule for season 2.
Speaker:So, I'm going to, I'm going to spend on your behalf, you guys
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:see what we come up with here.
Speaker:What did we get?
Speaker:Oh, it's on
Speaker:Oh, oh, stars and scandals,
Speaker:Ooh.
Speaker:OKay.
Speaker:Their rise was meteoric.
Speaker:Their downfall even swifter.
Speaker:One moment they were winning awards.
Speaker:The next their voices were called into question.
Speaker:A single technical mishap exposed a truth they could never recover from.
Speaker:Who were they?
Speaker:Milli Vanilli.
Speaker:All
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:All
Speaker:your hand if you actually saw Millie Vanilli concert.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:I did My father
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:and they came around here in the summer one time and he had tickets.
Speaker:So, you know, this is before we knew that they were, there was the rumors that they
Speaker:were lip syncing, but at the same time, most pop bands at that time, because
Speaker:they had so many choreographed stuff.
Speaker:A lot of it seemed like they were lip syncing anyways, you know, was it was
Speaker:hard to tell if you're getting, yeah.
Speaker:And so we went to see them and I think young mc opened for them.
Speaker:young emcee
Speaker:I
Speaker:Respect to young MC.
Speaker:I'm a fan.
Speaker:so yes, I have seen here's the thing.
Speaker:Whatever happened to the real people saying
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Like the people who sang, the real voices was what won, the guys pretending to be
Speaker:didn't, shouldn't, what about the people, I mean, where's the real Milli Vanilli?
Speaker:That's the, that's the E!
Speaker:News special I want to see, is what happened to the real people who sang?
Speaker:They were, they should have won all these awards.
Speaker:They just, were they that ugly?
Speaker:How ugly are the people who sing?
Speaker:friends you guys smelly cat smelly cat
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:are they feeding you?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:like I said, who's where are those people?
Speaker:Those people should be making millions of dollars.
Speaker:They want awards.
Speaker:They had award winning voices.
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:Are they that ugly and deformed that they can't be seen in public?
Speaker:Deformed?
Speaker:That's
Speaker:I don't know, man.
Speaker:why?
Speaker:I mean, you've got, you've got platinum
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:who also, you know, winning Grammys and all that stuff.
Speaker:And they were selling millions of records.
Speaker:I'm more
Speaker:to be them did.
Speaker:concerned with the fact that you went to see Milly Vanilli more than anything.
Speaker:I feel like I don't know you anymore.
Speaker:I don't know myself either.
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:I was the first domino that started America's downfall.
Speaker:Oh, man.
Speaker:Batman?
Speaker:to
Speaker:have some bangers, they do, they have some bangers.
Speaker:Whoever they are, they were good.
Speaker:Yeah, they were, that was fun.
Speaker:That was a fun time back then.
Speaker:right, you guys, this is the next one.
Speaker:Fad flashback.
Speaker:Okay, so in 99, several fads and cultural phenomena left
Speaker:a lasting impact on society.
Speaker:What movie premiering in June 23rd, 1989, became the highest
Speaker:grossing movie of the year.
Speaker:It's success was a lot of merchandise and kind of ushered
Speaker:in an era of blockbusters, Batman.
Speaker:That's good.
Speaker:When?
Speaker:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker:Batman.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The PR and the Prince as the did the whole album.
Speaker:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker:album.
Speaker:I, I, the Prince has,
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:I got, to see Prince.
Speaker:That should, that should balance things out.
Speaker:But he didn't do a single song and this was like early nineties.
Speaker:Not a single song from the bat out from the Batman album.
Speaker:got some pretty good songs on there.
Speaker:He just said
Speaker:I realized Prince did that album.
Speaker:album.
Speaker:All I know is,
Speaker:album is him.
Speaker:I think, I know Sean from Sean of the Dead did not like that album.
Speaker:Didn't they use that to throw at the zombies?
Speaker:Sean from Sean, then go fuck himself.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:How dare he besmirch the great prince.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:No, I love Prince.
Speaker:today.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I saw that.
Speaker:The dirtiest song that ever got past the FCC.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:When you think about the lyrics in that song, sometimes you go,
Speaker:What song?
Speaker:Little Red Corvette.
Speaker:Oh, right, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, I do.
Speaker:I'm aware.
Speaker:I
Speaker:in her pockets.
Speaker:Some of them used,
Speaker:Pocket full of
Speaker:pickers.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:Pocket full of horses.
Speaker:Some of them use, she's
Speaker:of
Speaker:got pictures of the drackies that been here before.
Speaker:Prince was a genius at writing
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:lyrics that people didn't realize.
Speaker:You know, you're like, Hey, in the back of the car, singing the song.
Speaker:And as I got older, I'm like, Oh my God, it's disgusting.
Speaker:right.
Speaker:Let's see what else we got, you guys.
Speaker:Oh, tasty
Speaker:Is that
Speaker:89, maybe.
Speaker:This snack offered a three foot long roll of fruity, chewy candy
Speaker:providing a playful and tasty treat.
Speaker:the,
Speaker:that are very
Speaker:similar.
Speaker:is that the fruit roll up footlong or is that something else?
Speaker:So what I know of is fruit.
Speaker:The fruit roll up had the foot long rollout thing.
Speaker:Fruit by
Speaker:is this something?
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Fruit by the foot.
Speaker:and then similarly
Speaker:You're not missing out, Steve.
Speaker:It, it'll destroy your intestines.
Speaker:this gum became a favorite among kids for its unique packaging.
Speaker:And fun factor, very similar.
Speaker:What was it called?
Speaker:Is this Big League Chew?
Speaker:No, it was like, it was
Speaker:Or the candy cigarettes?
Speaker:no, the long it's similar to fruit by the foot,
Speaker:oh, is that the bubble tape?
Speaker:Bubble
Speaker:tape.
Speaker:Bubble tape by Bubble Yum or whatever it was?
Speaker:Bubble tape.
Speaker:Listen Steve, we're the king of sugar over here in
Speaker:know, I'm just a, I'm just a spectator here.
Speaker:I don't know, I'm not familiar with these, I'm afraid.
Speaker:on our flag are made of?
Speaker:Fucking sugar, bitch.
Speaker:That's why it's white.
Speaker:It's fine.
Speaker:It's fine.
Speaker:All right, let's let's go.
Speaker:Let's do what?
Speaker:Let's do
Speaker:You
Speaker:1 more.
Speaker:should make a whole episode of just doing these to the 12 questions.
Speaker:Oh, we already did flat
Speaker:We already did a fat flashback.
Speaker:on, man.
Speaker:Unbelievable.
Speaker:It's rigged.
Speaker:Elon Musk is messing with it.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:prime time rewind
Speaker:this is perfect because in 1989, I'm a couple years
Speaker:younger than Steve, but I'm in.
Speaker:14, 15 years old now.
Speaker:So now, you know, like I'm a little bit older, so I can start
Speaker:staying up a little bit later.
Speaker:You know, I know a little bit more about the TV at this point.
Speaker:Then I like 1983, I'm a little kid.
Speaker:I don't
Speaker:yeah
Speaker:still don't know enough.
Speaker:okay, patriarch in colorful attire kept his household in check a sharp witted
Speaker:matriarch led her working class brood a familiar gathering spot thrived on
Speaker:laughter and loyalty , young minds sought wisdom with historic walls.
Speaker:And everyday blunders became must see TV.
Speaker:What 5 shows kept audiences hooked in
Speaker:I, the last one is Oh my God.
Speaker:Why it's AMV America's funniest videos.
Speaker:My funniest home videos.
Speaker:Is the Cosby show in there?
Speaker:it was the first one, the Cosby show.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:was the second one?
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:I thought you were reading one whole show.
Speaker:So what was the second?
Speaker:sorry.
Speaker:You're good.
Speaker:A patriarch and colorful attire.
Speaker:We got that 1 sharp witted matriarch, let her working class brood familiar
Speaker:gathering spot thrived on laughter and loyalty young minds thought
Speaker:wisdom within historic walls.
Speaker:Roseanne's second one?
Speaker:Roseanne, yes.
Speaker:Third one cheers
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:There's
Speaker:and then the fourth one.
Speaker:Is that a I feel like this is a game on Nickelodeon
Speaker:Prime time.
Speaker:No, it's prime
Speaker:Oh Prime time, okay
Speaker:Prime time.
Speaker:So young minds first in historic
Speaker:Jesus Is this young Indiana Jones?
Speaker:No, it is not.
Speaker:Steve, rethink.
Speaker:What was the is
Speaker:Historical and what was it?
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:it the
Speaker:We're
Speaker:different
Speaker:Young minds sought wisdom within historic walls.
Speaker:Steve is getting there.
Speaker:different world?
Speaker:No?
Speaker:That was
Speaker:from the Cosby show,
Speaker:the Cosby show.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Hey,
Speaker:that show.
Speaker:I know some things.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I,
Speaker:Nice, nice.
Speaker:That was good.
Speaker:That was good.
Speaker:That was fun.
Speaker:You did pretty good.
Speaker:You did pretty
Speaker:We got up our game now, Steve.
Speaker:We got to have some kind of game now.
Speaker:All right, damn it.
Speaker:Season
Speaker:I I like that.
Speaker:I, I dug that.
Speaker:That was fun.
Speaker:Season four, we're gonna have to have some, some games.
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:We're gonna, we're totally gonna steal from you.
Speaker:I'm just gonna
Speaker:You might well trademark that.
Speaker:give you a little hint.
Speaker:This is from Katie from the RetroMade.
Speaker:It's a lot more work to to
Speaker:yes.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:I
Speaker:Steve can do it.
Speaker:He's gonna do something around here.
Speaker:Huh?
Speaker:What, what, what, what?
Speaker:shot myself on the foot.
Speaker:All right, you guys, this season is John Hughes.
Speaker:So I got to
Speaker:Good choice.
Speaker:at what point did you realize that John Hughes was the mastermind behind so
Speaker:many of these iconic 80s and 90s movies?
Speaker:Probably mid to late nineties I think, again, I'm not trying to
Speaker:it feels like, in the nineties.
Speaker:We started to realize that there's directors
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:as opposed, because I feel like a lot of the times in the nineties
Speaker:or the eighties, it was actors that were kind of leading everything now.
Speaker:Of course, we know Spielberg, right?
Speaker:So Spielberg was like the mainstay, but you're also younger.
Speaker:So that's how, you know, Spielberg, Scorsese.
Speaker:I didn't know who that was until I was in In the nineties, Coppola, you know,
Speaker:I learned about these guys because now it's, you know, the all tours.
Speaker:I think a lot of the Tarantino esque people with the, the independence
Speaker:movement in the nineties helped us now to appreciate directors and not just go
Speaker:to movies for Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Willis, you know, because that was
Speaker:kind of how everything was made back in the eighties, at least the adult fair.
Speaker:So I didn't know what, you know, I knew the John Hughes movies.
Speaker:I didn't know it was just John Hughes, right?
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:Ferris Bueller and all these ones.
Speaker:You don't know that it's him until a certain time.
Speaker:So I think I learned in the early 90s.
Speaker:the movies I liked from John Hughes, as opposed to knowing when I went
Speaker:to the movie, Oh, it's this John Hughes, his new movie, you know,
Speaker:that kind of, that kind of feeling,
Speaker:What about you, Steve?
Speaker:Did you
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:So,
Speaker:or?
Speaker:so at the time of Uncle Buck, I was 17.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:I'm trying to think.
Speaker:Let me just, I think probably I think I was probably aware at that
Speaker:time, but only just, I mean, 'cause we'd add I think with Ad Ferris
Speaker:Buhler and a few other things, so
Speaker:I'm not trying to be a smarty pants.
Speaker:But, I think at that time, I was quite aware, I think,
Speaker:Does
Speaker:make sense.
Speaker:And he had already by this time, because he was really known for when you
Speaker:think of John Hughes, a lot of people think of the Brat Pack type movies,
Speaker:his earlier teen, teen type movies.
Speaker:And then he, he transitioned into more like family friendly
Speaker:yeah, so so yeah, and Breakfast Club,
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:aware then, but I think by Uncle, by Uncle Buck time, I say, you know, I mean, maybe
Speaker:it came out in 89, I might not have seen it in 89, I might have seen it in 1990, so
Speaker:I was like 18, 17, 18, I think by then I would have put the pieces together, so to
Speaker:speak, but that's just, yeah, I think so.
Speaker:a lie, but it's fine.
Speaker:We can lie to the
Speaker:I, I didn't know he directed Dunkle Buck, to be quite honest with
Speaker:you, I'm just, I'm just riffing.
Speaker:No,
Speaker:when,
Speaker:that would have,
Speaker:at some of this stuff, you realize that he actually wrote
Speaker:more than he directed, which is
Speaker:right.
Speaker:I think the, a thing that not a lot of people probably realized is that,
Speaker:yeah, he, known for a lot, but a lot of it is as a writer, you know,
Speaker:we just assume he's always been the director of these things when you're
Speaker:like, Oh, no, he's actually written.
Speaker:I mean, I'm looking at this thing right now.
Speaker:He is the 1980s teen movie, right?
Speaker:Like it's, what's the 16 candles breakfast club, weird science pre
Speaker:and pick Ferris Bueller's day off.
Speaker:Some kind of wonderful.
Speaker:She's having a baby, you know, and then he starts to move into as
Speaker:you were saying Steve like Planes trains and automobiles the great
Speaker:classic.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:or if which was vacation He writes that home alone, you know, he starts
Speaker:to slowly more into that I mean some flubber like there's some of them.
Speaker:I'm like he did that,
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:know, Dennis the menace like you go What he wrote those so
Speaker:I mean, I'm mainly, I was mainly talking about him as a director.
Speaker:I, you know,
Speaker:No, I know, but I
Speaker:yeah, but yeah,
Speaker:as John Hughes, right?
Speaker:Like it's
Speaker:Mm mm.
Speaker:yeah, he didn't direct it.
Speaker:But can you tell me who the director of some of these are?
Speaker:You're kind of like you go, John Hughes, you know what I mean?
Speaker:That
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:for you.
Speaker:John, John Hughes, right.
Speaker:Or a director.
Speaker:What'd you want to be like?
Speaker:There's only like a handful that he wrote and directed
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:this
Speaker:is Uncle Buck is so let's let's get into Uncle Buck
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:August 16th, 1989.
Speaker:is PG.
Speaker:Yeah, it's PG.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:We'll talk about that.
Speaker:7. 1 IMDB.
Speaker:And yep, he wrote and directed.
Speaker:If you guys have not seen Uncle Buck in a while, first of all, go watch it.
Speaker:Come back.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:it follows the story of Buck Russell, a carefree, unemployed bachelor
Speaker:who is unexpectedly called upon to babysit his brother's three kids
Speaker:when a family emergency arises.
Speaker:Initially seen as irresponsible and out of place Buck struggles to connect
Speaker:with his teenage niece, Tia, while managing the antics of her younger
Speaker:siblings, miles and Maisie through his unconventional but well-meaning ways,
Speaker:but gradually wins them over proving his loyalty and love for the family.
Speaker:So it's very, like a kind of a movie trope, but I don't know,
Speaker:again, in 89, I don't know.
Speaker:Like Mr. Mom, also written by John Hughes, but there's a lot of movies that followed
Speaker:this similar , classic fish out of water
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:where there's an unlikely caregiver.
Speaker:But I think maybe it was this one of the earlier ones that we watched anyway.
Speaker:If it's not one of the early ones, it's one of the best ones.
Speaker:That's for sure.
Speaker:And then.
Speaker:John Candy.
Speaker:And I mean, I've watched it again today and I've probably watched
Speaker:it in probably three decades.
Speaker:It's probably been almost that long.
Speaker:I forgot how funny this thing was.
Speaker:Hilarious.
Speaker:Like I remember watching it going, why are we making more comedies like this?
Speaker:Like all the comedies we have nowadays kind of suck a lot.
Speaker:And this was, I mean, just brilliant.
Speaker:It was just funny from start to finish.
Speaker:I forgot some of the gags that were in it.
Speaker:we'll get into home, but like with the clown, there's just
Speaker:certain things that happened.
Speaker:Just kind of like, Oh my God, I forgot that happened.
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:And McCauley Culkin.
Speaker:my God.
Speaker:my, this is, I mean, this is where he, anyone who thinks he just,
Speaker:you know, started home alone.
Speaker:No, no, no.
Speaker:You got to see uncle buck.
Speaker:McCauley Culkin earns uncle buck, of that through uncle buck
Speaker:there was so much it's hard to because it was the next year home
Speaker:90.
Speaker:1990,
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:we'll cover on
Speaker:this show.
Speaker:But several points.
Speaker:I was like, oh, my God, that's so similar.
Speaker:Beat for beat.
Speaker:Home Alone stuff, like where he's washing the dishes, where he's like
Speaker:that rapid fire Q and A with John Candy.
Speaker:Was there, there was another one too, where he's I'm a kid.
Speaker:That's my job or something like that.
Speaker:It was very
Speaker:He doesn't know the word for balls and he goes
Speaker:nuts.
Speaker:It's just, Oh my God.
Speaker:It was just so funny.
Speaker:I mean, it was so good.
Speaker:I forgot they were just so much fun.
Speaker:Those movies are just so much fun.
Speaker:And now that you're an adult you know, Disney has done this for forever.
Speaker:And my kids are now of an age where they now have realized the adult
Speaker:theme jokes that are slid into a kid's movies that they have no clue.
Speaker:just some of the, the
Speaker:The washing machine bit.
Speaker:machine bit.
Speaker:And even at the beginning where they're talking about the word crap and shit,
Speaker:with, it's just so much fun is happening in this film that I, I kind of, it made
Speaker:me really nostalgic for the eighties.
Speaker:I really was like, I miss these kinds of movies and I miss John Candy.
Speaker:think, think know, I know a lot of our, cause you know, he's, I guess
Speaker:you'd be boomer generation really.
Speaker:He's not technically Gen X and everyone always, you know, laments
Speaker:about Chris Farley dying too soon.
Speaker:John Candy.
Speaker:Is a genius comedian oh, I mean, you didn't realize, you don't
Speaker:realize how big a hole is left in the universe you see him again.
Speaker:You go, my God, this man was just.
Speaker:know, you'd have to do anything special.
Speaker:It didn't do any Pratt falls.
Speaker:He's a big guy.
Speaker:You'd have to fall down and break a chair.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:And, you know, play on the fat roll.
Speaker:He just was like, he just had great
Speaker:I mean, every, every second, every second he's on the screen, is just
Speaker:joy.
Speaker:Just fun and amusing.
Speaker:He doesn't,
Speaker:It's effortless.
Speaker:yeah, when he, even when he's doing natural things, there's just
Speaker:something about the guy that we all, yeah, we had a terrible loss really.
Speaker:Cause some of my favorites, you know, he was, he, he did a couple of,
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:did a couple of dramatic, he did,
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:you know, he did a couple of.
Speaker:Home
Speaker:I mean, that's my, that's my.
Speaker:Plain strange.
Speaker:So is there a modern equivalent to John Candy?
Speaker:Do you guys think?
Speaker:I know Chris Farley, to your point, probably got
Speaker:but more of a pratfall guy, you know, I think John that was his big
Speaker:claim to fame and he was good at it There's no doubt about it, but
Speaker:I don't know that there's a guy who
Speaker:is this warm and inviting as a funny
Speaker:I think, I think comedy is suffering right now though, right?
Speaker:love to have an uncle buck.
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:I wish I was an uncle But you know to me like I'm kind of
Speaker:like I'm gonna I want to be
Speaker:I think,
Speaker:you know I mean, I want to be on the buck.
Speaker:I've got to be honest with you, when I was watching it today as well, and
Speaker:I hadn't seen it much like Scott, I probably hadn't, I'll say, it's been
Speaker:at least 20 years since I've seen it,
Speaker:but yeah, I think there's, there's, comedy is suffering right now,
Speaker:and I don't think there's anyone really like him, of his calibre.
Speaker:Right now but then I would say that in general comedy is
Speaker:not in good shape right now
Speaker:Maybe there's not as good a writer as John Hughes either
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:know,
Speaker:That's it.
Speaker:you know, I mean, you know, as you and I will talk about, or I talk about
Speaker:mine, Tarantino and the muses he has, sometimes you get the best performances
Speaker:out of certain actors and then they go into another movie and you're like,
Speaker:Jesus, this person was in the same movie.
Speaker:And when you, I mean, John Candy in and of himself, he doesn't need John
Speaker:Hughes, but when you get a guy who's amazing at writing comedy and you've
Speaker:got a guy who knows how to deliver comedy and you put them together,
Speaker:you're going to get gold and you got fricking gold from almost everything
Speaker:John Candy and John Hughes do together.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Agreed.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I, I agree.
Speaker:I think it depicted, I hadn't seen it in a while when I watched it
Speaker:yesterday, I forgot how it opened and it's just a very ordinary family.
Speaker:It depicts family dynamics and like bratty teenagers and
Speaker:and
Speaker:today because I went through that with my daughter in the late 2010s and it's
Speaker:just, I mean, I was like, holy shit.
Speaker:There's my daughter on the fucking screen.
Speaker:Like it's, mean, you know, I did notice this when she walks down
Speaker:the opening shot of her walking.
Speaker:She's in leggings.
Speaker:That's an outfit that except for the hat, maybe.
Speaker:That's an outfit that you would see kids wearing today, right?
Speaker:I was kind of like, Jesus, this doesn't really age too poorly because
Speaker:that's kind of like what some kids are wearing nowadays.
Speaker:Although,
Speaker:point.
Speaker:the fun about John Hughes movies is he always has these Chicago suburbs
Speaker:and I like how the daughter's like, we had to move from Indianapolis because
Speaker:mom and dad couldn't afford things.
Speaker:I'm thinking, you actually moved up because I think mom
Speaker:and dad are making more money.
Speaker:I've been to Indianapolis and the suburbs of Chicago are not cheap and
Speaker:you're in this giant fucking house.
Speaker:I'm thinking, I think you're doing pretty okay there, Tia.
Speaker:I think you better stop being such a bitch.
Speaker:You're doing really good.
Speaker:they also depict the the parents are so focused on their jobs
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:present.
Speaker:that's the 1980s, right?
Speaker:Like it was kind of like, that's my parents
Speaker:So,
Speaker:when the kids, when the hockey season ended.
Speaker:oh, my God, that's right.
Speaker:I forgot about that.
Speaker:And then they get, I would have loved to get take out more, but we didn't
Speaker:like, we, we had home cooked meals.
Speaker:God forbid,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:what a, what a wonderful dinner.
Speaker:Mom take
Speaker:I think
Speaker:out
Speaker:I think saying it I think we probably watched a hell of
Speaker:a lot when we were younger.
Speaker:I think
Speaker:I do.
Speaker:in that
Speaker:quoting this quite a
Speaker:in the sort of home
Speaker:came back,
Speaker:In the sort of home video area, I think and at the age we were all roughly out
Speaker:at that time We probably did rewatch.
Speaker:That's why I mean when I
Speaker:I hadn't seen it yet for over 20 years, but I felt like I Watched it a week ago
Speaker:That was so familiar.
Speaker:I was waiting for all the moments that, that I remember.
Speaker:I knew they were coming, you know, because that's, that's
Speaker:sort of ingrained in my mind.
Speaker:So we must've seen these films a lot when we were younger.
Speaker:So, but yeah, it was John Candy though.
Speaker:I mean, like I say, every minute he's on screen, he's just gold.
Speaker:He really is and he's like, he's 1 of those guys.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Seems like a genuinely nice person to, you know, not scandal, no scandals
Speaker:Yeah, I've never heard anything to the contrary.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:You've never hear anything like, Oh, Jesus, what a drunker, what a
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:was, you know, he just,
Speaker:it's John Candy.
Speaker:Candy.
Speaker:of Canada's great exports.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Oh, don't
Speaker:There's no tariff on him.
Speaker:So he plays Buck Russell.
Speaker:Let's talk about some of the other cast.
Speaker:So the teenager Tia, so she's a bratty teenager, and she's really who he.
Speaker:The, for the most part of the movie is really butting heads with
Speaker:Tia played by Jean Louisa Kelly.
Speaker:did you guys recognize her from anything else?
Speaker:Like she wasn't in a lot.
Speaker:I
Speaker:I know she's been in some things I couldn't place her because the movie I
Speaker:know her definitely from is obviously Uncle Buck, you know I mean, I know
Speaker:she's she's one of those kids like even her boyfriend bug in there I know I've
Speaker:seen him before in some 80s movies But if you put him in a lineup, I couldn't
Speaker:tell you which one, you know, so
Speaker:It's funny because she also, aside from this, she's most
Speaker:known for playing the mom.
Speaker:Named Kim in the TV series.
Speaker:Yes, dear.
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:early mid 2000s.
Speaker:And so now I was trying to look for it yesterday when I rewatched it.
Speaker:So that's who she is.
Speaker:Maisie, the daughter.
Speaker:Like this, so, so
Speaker:the teenage daughter Tia is like 15 then Maisie is 6 and she's played by Gabby,
Speaker:Gabby Hoffman and , she has gone on to
Speaker:Yes, she did
Speaker:quite a few things, but she was also in field of dreams now and then
Speaker:200 cigarettes in the, a couple of TV series girls and transparent.
Speaker:She's in a number of other things, but she has gone on to have.
Speaker:Fairly well known career.
Speaker:And then Macaulay Culkin
Speaker:Who?
Speaker:the
Speaker:Who's this guy?
Speaker:I don't remember him.
Speaker:He
Speaker:Is He related to Kieran?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I think, I think it's his brother.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Quintessential 80s, 90s kid is
Speaker:I can't stand him.
Speaker:really?
Speaker:Steve?
Speaker:Oh, fuck it.
Speaker:as a kid actor?
Speaker:I just hate him.
Speaker:I just don't like him.
Speaker:My heart.
Speaker:Do you know what?
Speaker:I'll be honest with he,
Speaker:to hang out with Michael Jackson and you didn't?
Speaker:Is that what this
Speaker:he,
Speaker:Is there some selfishness?
Speaker:I'm certainly not.
Speaker:I dunno.
Speaker:I dunno what it is.
Speaker:I just do You know what I actually, I actually, one thing I didn't remember
Speaker:about this movie was that he was in it.
Speaker:And
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:I love
Speaker:I,
Speaker:it.
Speaker:and as soon as I saw him
Speaker:I was like, oh no.
Speaker:like
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:But hey, you know,
Speaker:Macaulay Culkin.
Speaker:probably, yeah.
Speaker:It's
Speaker:I loved him in this.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:noted, I do not, I, I also don't have kids and just generally,
Speaker:they kind of annoy me, but
Speaker:IT.
Speaker:oh, my God, I don't bless you, Scott.
Speaker:I don't know how you do it.
Speaker:I don't know either.
Speaker:I must be on some kind of drugs I don't know what I'm taking.
Speaker:What age kids do you teach?
Speaker:Fucking middle school 12 to 14.
Speaker:Yeah, it is.
Speaker:It really is.
Speaker:It's tough.
Speaker:It's it's a tough go
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:That's why I have no hair.
Speaker:I mean I knew early on I was like not gonna need this
Speaker:This will do me no good.
Speaker:I think it's an 80s thing.
Speaker:And again, I always feel like, like the cranky old lady that is like,
Speaker:oh, things were better in my day.
Speaker:But like the kids in this, I actually noted because I am largely annoyed
Speaker:by children in movies and TV.
Speaker:Generally, and in the world, they were good.
Speaker:I was
Speaker:I thought so.
Speaker:I thought the two younger.
Speaker:I thought candy and the two youngest ones Their interactions, I thought
Speaker:were a really, really great.
Speaker:I mean, you know, it's sometimes you, you know, you get some kids in movies.
Speaker:And like you said, you're like dragging planks of wood.
Speaker:You're like, why is this kid even in this fucking movie?
Speaker:Who do they know to get him in this film?
Speaker:especially when it's not a kid's movie, steve hates this movie, but
Speaker:like the Goonies, that's a kid's movie.
Speaker:And so these kid actors are acting together.
Speaker:So that might be easier for them.
Speaker:But when you've got John Candy you've got to know at the time to nobody's and
Speaker:they're going to act with him, I thought,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:good.
Speaker:I
Speaker:back and forth with candy and Macaulay Culkin at the table, do you have a job?
Speaker:Would you live in a house?
Speaker:No, I probably wouldn't have a job.
Speaker:It's just, you go to the back and forth.
Speaker:You really, my brother, dad's brother, you got more hair.
Speaker:It's just kind of like the rapid fire was really a fun, you know, thing.
Speaker:And then the little girl with her sister comes in.
Speaker:You said a bad word.
Speaker:Crap.
Speaker:No, it's shit.
Speaker:You know, the whole back and forth with them.
Speaker:I thought they were really good.
Speaker:Steve probably hates him, you know, he hates everybody.
Speaker:So it's okay.
Speaker:No, no.
Speaker:I dunno what it is.
Speaker:I, I just don't like that kid.
Speaker:And, having said that, I mean, he's, he's fine, he's good at what he
Speaker:does, don't get me, I just, there's just something about him, just,
Speaker:you.
Speaker:not for me.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:What did you think of Shanice who plays John Candy's girlfriend?
Speaker:Or, I mean, Shanice is the character's
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Who has she been in?
Speaker:I've seen her before.
Speaker:She's been, she feels like, feels like she's been in everything.
Speaker:She's such a familiar face.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:She's one of those eighties.
Speaker:Just, Hey, that's that person again.
Speaker:Madigan is her name and, and she's a, I believe on Irish.
Speaker:I mean, her last name is Irish, but I think she's like from Ireland.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:she was also in field of dreams
Speaker:Yeah, she's been in a hell of a lot.
Speaker:his wife.
Speaker:and
Speaker:Yes,
Speaker:gone baby gone.
Speaker:Like
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And she was nominated for an Oscar.
Speaker:I haven't seen this, but she was nominated for her supporting role
Speaker:in twice in a lifetime in 1986.
Speaker:Six.
Speaker:I know that one.
Speaker:she's married to?
Speaker:Very famous actor.
Speaker:And they've been married since 1983.
Speaker:And I did not know this.
Speaker:This makes
Speaker:No, I do not know.
Speaker:It's not Kevin Costner.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Let's see the Gene Hackman.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:He just turned 95 the other day.
Speaker:Oh, no, no.
Speaker:no.
Speaker:It's somebody her age range.
Speaker:Dan Aykroyd.
Speaker:the eighties out.
Speaker:Ed Harris, who I dig.
Speaker:I
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Ed Harris.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Isn't
Speaker:He's also in Gone Baby Gone.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:is he one of the police officers?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:one of the people.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I don't wanna give away for those who haven't seen it.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:But
Speaker:really like
Speaker:it
Speaker:It's a great movie.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:one of Ben Affleck's first directorial debuts, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker:that was his first, I think.
Speaker:And I like
Speaker:Great.
Speaker:Affleck more than
Speaker:he's had some, he's had some off the, off the field issues, but
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:Steve and I like to separate, Steve and I like to sep,
Speaker:he?
Speaker:when that Me Too movie came out, he got a few things, but, Steve and I like to,
Speaker:you know, we separate, we separate what, listen, I know Michael Jackson has done
Speaker:some terrible things, I know he has.
Speaker:There's levels to this stuff, though.
Speaker:music
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:but I love his music.
Speaker:So I don't, I don't want to have any, you know, he's dead.
Speaker:He's long gone, but, and what he did is horrible, but his music is still, it's
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:good.
Speaker:But, but Kay, but Kay, Casey Affleck, I mean, Manchester by
Speaker:the Sea is just an amazing film.
Speaker:He's done some good stuff.
Speaker:He's good.
Speaker:He's, actually, he's great in Gone Baby Gone.
Speaker:he and Ben Affleck will be in the new Dunkin commercial.
Speaker:I know Steve doesn't care, but they've already talked about
Speaker:it, so that looks pretty funny.
Speaker:I did like his spoof.
Speaker:Oh, that was great.
Speaker:Vanilla, what was it?
Speaker:Vanilla Nuts, Vanilla Nut Taps.
Speaker:I know some things.
Speaker:I know some things.
Speaker:I just, I know, tangents all over the place of us, we're a nightmare.
Speaker:I like a tangent.
Speaker:But, but getting back from the
Speaker:Yes,
Speaker:Just kidding.
Speaker:Uncle Bok, not the Affleck Brothers.
Speaker:So the parents in this didn't look familiar to me, really,
Speaker:The only person who looked familiar was the brother, the one with the curly hair.
Speaker:He'd been like a father in another Movie or two he looked for me.
Speaker:I couldn't tell you his name, but the mother not but Buck's brother had
Speaker:been to some things I know in the 80s.
Speaker:I just can't
Speaker:can't place him.
Speaker:his name is Garrett M. Brown, and he did a lot of TV work, so he was
Speaker:Okay,
Speaker:Sisters Trouble, I don't know what that is, and then the movies Kick
Speaker:Ass and Kick Ass 2, and then the
Speaker:he was in kick ass.
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:Huh?
Speaker:I'm
Speaker:know.
Speaker:Elaine Bromka plays Cindy the mom.
Speaker:She also has, she's more known for a lot of her TV work, most notably playing Dr.
Speaker:Reicher on Days of our Lives.
Speaker:That's who she is.
Speaker:And then one
Speaker:probably knows her
Speaker:I adore Lori McDuff.
Speaker:She plays the the they're
Speaker:the unhinged neighbor
Speaker:She's from Roseanne, she's Roseanne's sister, right, in the,
Speaker:yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:that's
Speaker:she is
Speaker:She is great in this.
Speaker:I love her.
Speaker:This was one of her first movie roles.
Speaker:I was
Speaker:She kills it.
Speaker:her name in the movie is Marcy
Speaker:Marcy.
Speaker:And I loved the little frost is my, my married name, but we got
Speaker:divorced, but I kept the hyphen.
Speaker:Everyone loves the hyphen.
Speaker:Yeah like we says, I didn't, I haven't dropped the frost and he's kind of looking
Speaker:there because she's kind of frosting.
Speaker:She was going, he's going, seems seems to track
Speaker:Oh, my God, she was awesome in this.
Speaker:I loved her outfits were I was, I was like, I would wear those.
Speaker:She had some great outfits in this movie
Speaker:the fashion.
Speaker:It's weird.
Speaker:You know, things, as I say, things come around.
Speaker:because now 90s
Speaker:some of the fashion still stays on point a little bit.
Speaker:I think we've kind of the circle back around, you know,
Speaker:Yeah, it happens.
Speaker:cars and certain things would definitely give off, but you could definitely,
Speaker:you could sell some of this as a modern day movie and be hard for
Speaker:some people to tell us, you know, right off the, right off the bat.
Speaker:And then you had mentioned, you're like I've seen bug to his boyfriend in things
Speaker:before he's played by Jay Underwood he's most known for the boy who could fly.
Speaker:okay.
Speaker:All right,
Speaker:And apparently you guys will think this is funny.
Speaker:I did anyway.
Speaker:He's not an actor anymore, I don't think.
Speaker:He is a megachurch pastor.
Speaker:Tracks.
Speaker:That's
Speaker:has a mega church pastor face.
Speaker:He may be on the same track as Michael Jordan or Michael Jackson, not Jordan.
Speaker:does have a megachurch pastor face.
Speaker:that.
Speaker:Yeah, we'll just leave it there.
Speaker:I don't need to go sidetrack anymore.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And then just getting through the stats here.
Speaker:The music was done by Ira newborn, which I not heard that name before, but apparently
Speaker:he collabs quite often with John Hughes.
Speaker:so he did a lot of songs for movies, like 16 candles, weird science,
Speaker:Ferris Bueller's day off planes, trains, nominal automobiles, and
Speaker:then some very nineties movies, mall rats, and Ace Ventura, pet detective.
Speaker:I love Mallrats.
Speaker:And it's for George Floyd Detective.
Speaker:I really, I really enjoyed the music.
Speaker:It really worked.
Speaker:This R& B, blues infused, fused thing he was doing.
Speaker:I really, really enjoyed it.
Speaker:You know, uncle buck has this like little, like a Tom drum thing that
Speaker:almost like young and see that room doom, doom, doom, and just, I don't
Speaker:know, worked, worked really well
Speaker:It?
Speaker:was
Speaker:as as his like thing.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That was Tone Loke, yeah.
Speaker:Actually, there's some of the old songs.
Speaker:I mean, being someone who, I kind of grew up really into hip hop.
Speaker:And there's quite a lot of songs in the movement.
Speaker:I'm like, that's a sample from this song.
Speaker:That's a sample from that.
Speaker:That's quite sort of, but, you know, 89.
Speaker:That was pretty sort of on point.
Speaker:You know, he's pretty on track with some decent stuff.
Speaker:I was thinking that while I was watching it today.
Speaker:I was like, Oh, I recognize a lot of these songs that have
Speaker:now been sampled, you know?
Speaker:And then, yeah, that's the tone loke things.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:15 million to make this movie.
Speaker:And it grossed nearly 80 million worldwide.
Speaker:in 1989 for a comedy.
Speaker:That's really
Speaker:Not bad.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:summertime to about that.
Speaker:Cause it came on August.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:I mean, we're in summertime, you know, American cinemas,
Speaker:I mean the world now, but.
Speaker:tentpole season, especially in the eighties,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I was trying to remember,
Speaker:setting up, we're sending out, you know, whatever to whatever the new
Speaker:Schwarzenegger, whatever movies supposed to be coming out that timeframe before,
Speaker:you know, the superhero takeover we've
Speaker:yeah, I was trying to, I was,
Speaker:it to go to 80 million
Speaker:I was trying to remember if it, I can't even remember that hitting
Speaker:cinemas here personally, but I'm, I'm going back a long way.
Speaker:So I don't know if I, if it was, if it was straight to video here is what
Speaker:I'm thinking that might have been.
Speaker:I'm not, if it, you know, sometimes I talk about this with Scott where
Speaker:I live in a quite small town.
Speaker:I don't live in London.
Speaker:We don't all live, you know, we're not all London.
Speaker:of
Speaker:No, no, I know, but it's
Speaker:tiny.
Speaker:not far from the truth, but sometimes I'm like, yeah, certain things don't
Speaker:make it to my neck of the woods.
Speaker:So, and I can't really remember if that hit there is here.
Speaker:Plus
Speaker:I say here,
Speaker:I mean, what a, what a suburban movie about, you know, Chicago family drama,
Speaker:you know, really land in England.
Speaker:Like what, what a movie from your
Speaker:yeah, I'm sure maybe in,
Speaker:hit
Speaker:maybe in the cities, it was maybe on for a week or two, but I don't remember it.
Speaker:I grew up in a small town too in Nebraska.
Speaker:So like middle of the country.
Speaker:So by the time things got to me, It was
Speaker:a decade had
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Oh, no, you can, you can relate then.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:Yeah, sometimes I mention things and people are like, what?
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:It didn't?
Speaker:And I'm like, yeah, maybe in, maybe in London, but we're not all from London.
Speaker:That's like when I say I'm from New York, everyone
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, you know, Manhattan.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:city and just, Yeah.
Speaker:I'm from New York.
Speaker:The city whereabouts
Speaker:Yeah, not the same.
Speaker:It's not the same thing.
Speaker:But yeah, I was trying to think, I couldn't remember
Speaker:if that hit theaters there.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's still not bad, 80 mil.
Speaker:1989. Like I said, in the summertime
Speaker:you,
Speaker:a family comedy,
Speaker:know, you go, you,
Speaker:movie
Speaker:Maybe so you go with inflation, that's probably a few hundred
Speaker:million probably, I guess.
Speaker:I mean, in American inflation, I was like 3 billion.
Speaker:I think they would have made
Speaker:a couple of, a couple of
Speaker:eggs or 19.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:I'm just saying if eggs were 25 cents.
Speaker:I've only been hearing about this today, I mean, I've only
Speaker:been hearing about the egg thing,
Speaker:in
Speaker:only been hearing about the egg thing today, I don't really
Speaker:know what the deal is there.
Speaker:you.
Speaker:Don't worry about it.
Speaker:Just be glad you're in England.
Speaker:Be glad that
Speaker:Steve?
Speaker:glad you cut because they have better news than us.
Speaker:He's
Speaker:only heard about, I only, I don't know what the egg thing is, I,
Speaker:I actually only heard about it today, so I don't really know what,
Speaker:this point.
Speaker:Oh, price the eggs.
Speaker:the smart people with the red hats voted for the hot dog skinned guy she was
Speaker:brazier eggs and they've actually gone through the roof in this three weeks.
Speaker:So
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:racism is costly.
Speaker:And America's finding that out the hard way
Speaker:Oh man, foamed up a can of eggs here.
Speaker:I
Speaker:eggs in the can might be a smart thing if you got that If
Speaker:egg.
Speaker:There's or tofu.
Speaker:You don't need eggs.
Speaker:don't
Speaker:Anyway.
Speaker:Always noticed the fashion cause I already brought up Lori Metcalf's
Speaker:Did you notice Uncle Bucks?
Speaker:This is the first time I really noticed it.
Speaker:His rings
Speaker:Yes, you had like the big old class rings and stuff
Speaker:and
Speaker:I didn't know this.
Speaker:Yes the old the old elvis the old elvis horseshoe
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:I just there's just so much the attention to detail that They have on these
Speaker:films, especially, you know, even the whether he's the writer director You
Speaker:It's, know, it, you just don't realize it until you go back and watch it again,
Speaker:and I think it's what informs, now that Steve and I are on the SDD
Speaker:journey, you can, you can instantly find a movie that's just direct to video.
Speaker:No one gave a shit about it because it's missing.
Speaker:All the accoutrements that come with a really great designed film from that,
Speaker:that the plate, the China plates, the way they have everything hanging over
Speaker:the sink or, I mean, over the stoves, little thing, the way he dresses,
Speaker:the stuff they do, everything has a place and it means something like.
Speaker:When Marcy comes over, or when they catch, or yeah, she first comes to the
Speaker:door, the toys on the stairs going up.
Speaker:There's just this thing that says that, that, that one, mom and dad are gone.
Speaker:Buck is there and he's not exactly a clean freak.
Speaker:And so you could start to see the home slip into this decay of like clutter.
Speaker:And that is really smart.
Speaker:Most, you know, crappy shoots would just wouldn't even think about that.
Speaker:It would just make this real clean, sterile environment.
Speaker:And they'd walk in, you'd be like, Oh, this feels like a play at a high school.
Speaker:And it's, it's just, there's just even when she's talking with them, there's
Speaker:little crumbs on the counter from him, not cleaning up after breakfast.
Speaker:There's just these little touches.
Speaker:That as you watch it more you start to see the real craftsmanship and why these
Speaker:kind of movies last the test of time And you just are like they just feel
Speaker:like a warm blanket sometimes because it reminds me of like watch it today I
Speaker:felt like I was back in the 80s Like I felt like my parents like I was in my
Speaker:living room watching this on a VHS Like it just felt like a Sunday morning 1980s.
Speaker:And this is what I was going to watch and just, I don't know.
Speaker:They're just man, it was a nice, you know, what we're going through.
Speaker:It's a nice warm blanket to kind of forget about for about two hours.
Speaker:It really was.
Speaker:you're brought back to that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Like Chicago Suburbs, the house.
Speaker:Like it, yeah.
Speaker:It's very comforting.
Speaker:It's like you're in this world now you're in the John Hughes world and
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:is on a diet at the moment.
Speaker:They're massive pancakes.
Speaker:They look good.
Speaker:Oh, my
Speaker:I forgot that he uses the snow shot for God, he flips with a snow shovel.
Speaker:What?
Speaker:I couldn't
Speaker:I don't know what that
Speaker:the griddle part?
Speaker:a fun things like Blackstone things.
Speaker:They've got in the market.
Speaker:May uncle buck was first.
Speaker:God damn it.
Speaker:I don't know where he got this griddle.
Speaker:The griddle took up the Island.
Speaker:I don't know where this was made.
Speaker:know what that was.
Speaker:Was that a car door or something?
Speaker:I didn't recall.
Speaker:I remember that scene that he flips a pancake, with the shovel and the gag
Speaker:of that, but then I totally forgot that there was an entire stack.
Speaker:Giant
Speaker:Yeah, yeah,
Speaker:on
Speaker:the table.
Speaker:That was awesome.
Speaker:So
Speaker:I was just like, oh man,
Speaker:sausages for days, you
Speaker:yeah, I
Speaker:on the
Speaker:mean the amount of eggs he must have used for them pancakes, guys.
Speaker:God.
Speaker:And
Speaker:Oh!
Speaker:prices as
Speaker:Sorry guys, I didn't mean to upset you.
Speaker:there's thousands of dollars in groceries right there.
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:I'd be for it
Speaker:now.
Speaker:I loved
Speaker:the
Speaker:tiny urinals
Speaker:Oh, I was going to say that when he needs takes a knee, I forgot.
Speaker:He's
Speaker:the funny thing is, is, is nowadays.
Speaker:If a grown man walked into a little kid's bathroom, what a
Speaker:fucking alarm bell would go off.
Speaker:But he just kind of like looks down, sees his little feet dangling.
Speaker:He's like, I think he's in the bathroom.
Speaker:He doesn't know where to put his cigar.
Speaker:He's
Speaker:Was that urinal thing really an issue though?
Speaker:Couldn't he have just
Speaker:He's in an elementary school.
Speaker:So
Speaker:No, but you could just, you just,
Speaker:he's a big guy.
Speaker:What is he?
Speaker:Six, four, three 50.
Speaker:Like
Speaker:It would
Speaker:I
Speaker:just, here's the thing.
Speaker:It was just a great gag, right?
Speaker:It's a
Speaker:No, no, I get the gag, I was just a bit like, wait a minute, can't he just
Speaker:Aim.
Speaker:aim?
Speaker:True.
Speaker:Use the sink like a real man.
Speaker:take a sh take a shit in the sink like a normal person would.
Speaker:Come on.
Speaker:Jesus, what is this?
Speaker:Do schools have tiny, you know, I literally, I've never been in a
Speaker:Yes, if you're
Speaker:If you're
Speaker:little,
Speaker:Yeah, especially like when they have kindergarten like that.
Speaker:They do have lower because they can't gonna clean pee off the floor
Speaker:I
Speaker:The little boys aren't making higher urinals
Speaker:if the stall, like the toilet stall, you
Speaker:so some of the schools around where I'm at they
Speaker:that's what I use for the griddle.
Speaker:That's it is the bathroom inside the classroom, but
Speaker:they have little tiny toilets
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:it's still, it's still at their height because again, you're going to be
Speaker:cleaning the pee for days or poop.
Speaker:I mean, it's just these kids can't get an inch up under the seat.
Speaker:You're in trouble.
Speaker:You're going to have of a lot of yeah, a lot of janitors
Speaker:coming in every five minutes.
Speaker:that
Speaker:just use a urine.
Speaker:Look, Ken, it looks like Niagara Falls broke in there.
Speaker:I love speaking of that.
Speaker:I love when they're on the phone or he's talking to us to ask a few questions.
Speaker:How's your plumbing there?
Speaker:Do you have a blunt shirt?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:She's just like, Oh God.
Speaker:I
Speaker:That's before she's even left.
Speaker:Think that's before they've even left.
Speaker:I think he says that before they've even left.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:allergy?
Speaker:an allergy?
Speaker:Oh my God, I can't believe I have to leave my children with you
Speaker:that's what the blue water's for.
Speaker:Oh, my God.
Speaker:Leaving the
Speaker:and she's crying.
Speaker:I'm so glad you're there with them.
Speaker:Oh, that, that, I
Speaker:toilet seat up for the dog.
Speaker:I love the fact that how they decide to, you know, to do the, the whole
Speaker:interchange where he asked, you know, how many times you feed a dog?
Speaker:And she could have just said it, but the best part is when she
Speaker:goes how many times do you think you're supposed to feed a dog?
Speaker:I just love that.
Speaker:Just, it's just a great way of how you just change your dialogue
Speaker:to add for the comedy, right?
Speaker:Because we know that he's, when he asked it, we already
Speaker:know he's overfeeding the dog.
Speaker:We all know that's what it's leading to, but her than having him tell
Speaker:her how much he thinks he should be the dog is where we get the fun.
Speaker:It's like four times.
Speaker:It's just one, just one.
Speaker:Oh, that'll, that'll explain it.
Speaker:And it's like the pee in the lawn.
Speaker:Which
Speaker:of the blue water.
Speaker:It's so good.
Speaker:also a time because I have a feeling, I don't know, maybe it's just me,
Speaker:but I think most people feed their dogs twice a day, at least now,
Speaker:I think they say that you're supposed to feed your dog when you eat.
Speaker:I think that, you know, like some experts say like you're, so if your
Speaker:dog's on a schedule and you sit down to eat, the dog eats, that's where
Speaker:there's no begging at the table.
Speaker:When you're done, then the dog learns that, okay, now they're done.
Speaker:Kind of, kind of thing.
Speaker:So you, the two dads would grab breakfast.
Speaker:Dinner and then, you know, people could stay home I guess three times.
Speaker:But that in the 80s, I feel like it was really normal.
Speaker:You fed your dog once a day, you just
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:food in the
Speaker:bowl.
Speaker:And Yeah.
Speaker:I
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The dog was cute.
Speaker:Also with him sleeping with the kids and from
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:to the
Speaker:floor, everybody, including the dog ends up like on him cute stuff.
Speaker:a great uncle.
Speaker:Like he may not know anything about kids, but like he is really his street wise
Speaker:is really kind of what these kids need.
Speaker:Like he's, you know, look, he's doing the great thing where he's making McCulloch
Speaker:cook and wash the dishes and, you know, just put a hair in your chest kind of
Speaker:thing, you know, that kind of mentality.
Speaker:But at the end of the day, he really is building thing.
Speaker:He's more involved with them than his, their own parents have been.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:And I think that's what really ends up.
Speaker:And eventually what finally brings Tia around, because she's just
Speaker:angry that they left in Minneapolis.
Speaker:She's just pissed that at her age, she has to start over,
Speaker:but yet she's also learned how to be.
Speaker:She's also learned how to take care of her brothers and sisters,
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:this it's funny, it almost feels like Tia was the oops.
Speaker:Child the other two are the ones they plan like it was like to you.
Speaker:Oh, we
Speaker:That's,
Speaker:made it out of high school
Speaker:She's why they got married.
Speaker:Yes, exactly the other two are like hey, let's have kids
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's a really good
Speaker:Cuz she's like what a junior in high school, whatever it is.
Speaker:And these kids like kindergarten or first grade you're like boy Those kids
Speaker:good with them.
Speaker:I noticed that too because I related to the, I related to Buck because I
Speaker:don't have, I'm kind of the crazy aunt like Buck oh, I'm hung over today, but
Speaker:I made it to your game or whatever.
Speaker:play with some scissors go run around
Speaker:But I wouldn't be as good as but like he's so good at relating to them because he's
Speaker:kind of a big kid himself I suppose but
Speaker:He,
Speaker:I'm the same.
Speaker:I think I'm a bit like that.
Speaker:mm
Speaker:Candy's
Speaker:I'd be a bit, I'm a bit like Look, I get shit done, you know?
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:not do it the
Speaker:May not do with
Speaker:the
Speaker:on, but it gets done,
Speaker:Hey!
Speaker:No, I no, but I I get stuff I get stuff
Speaker:to mow your lawn without pants?
Speaker:Listen, all
Speaker:It's hard as balls out here.
Speaker:balls are sweating, oh dear lady.
Speaker:I mean my nuts!
Speaker:Sorry, sorry, we're sidetracking
Speaker:Crap!
Speaker:No, I think John Candy, I don't know.
Speaker:He just feels like that.
Speaker:Every man that you would look at was supposed to believe is inept
Speaker:to be able to watch his kids, but he's the perfect person.
Speaker:He's the perfect person to race.
Speaker:He's like the original.
Speaker:What's the one with Robin Williams?
Speaker:He pretends to be the nanny.
Speaker:Why am I blanking?
Speaker:Missed out fire.
Speaker:He's like the Mr. Doubtfire is like, Hey,
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:I'm just going to do this.
Speaker:I don't know if this is the right way to do it, but we're going to do it.
Speaker:And he's making a breakfast.
Speaker:He's, I mean, for this kid's birthday, they don't even know when
Speaker:his birthday is, what he wants.
Speaker:I guess getting them sticks.
Speaker:Not like Jesus Christ.
Speaker:They put your ass.
Speaker:I did
Speaker:Pancakes more pancakes than even the neighborhood could eat,
Speaker:you're just kind of like, man, what a fucking awesome uncle.
Speaker:He's
Speaker:kind of like I did kind of like the drying the clothes in the microwave.
Speaker:Fancy it.
Speaker:Cause he,
Speaker:as the girl goes,
Speaker:He
Speaker:can't get open the goddamn drive.
Speaker:Oh, it's a quarter.
Speaker:Why don't you go down to the corner and get a retina of that thing off your face?
Speaker:Oh, fuck melanoma.
Speaker:No, because that was
Speaker:about
Speaker:Yeah
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:because when I said that to you, I was like, that is from that, right?
Speaker:Because if it wasn't, you'd have been like, what the hell is he talking about?
Speaker:I
Speaker:But,
Speaker:proof, but I feel like the mole thing from this movie is what led to the
Speaker:joke of the mole on Fred Savage's face.
Speaker:In the Austin powers movies where he just can't stop saying mole.
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:like this was the Genesis from it.
Speaker:Like I just really do.
Speaker:Cause one of the most memorable scenes is him flipping that quarter to her and
Speaker:tell her to get it not off her face.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:But that sort of thing,
Speaker:of that joke.
Speaker:that's like the thing in the Steve Martin movie, Roxanne, as well,
Speaker:where they're like, don't look at his nose, you know, and then You can't
Speaker:not look at his nose sort of thing.
Speaker:That's the same sort of joke, but, but yeah, when I said that to you,
Speaker:cause same, I hadn't seen the movie for like over 20 years, that was the
Speaker:first thing I thought of when you said uncle Buck was Buck Melanoma.
Speaker:I thought,
Speaker:completely forgotten about it.
Speaker:yeah, but that is, that's a great, that's a great scene though, as well, talking
Speaker:about what a great uncle he is and what a sort of good provider he really is and
Speaker:his, you know, his character says a lot about his character when he stands up to
Speaker:the teacher and says, Gives his little speech about her being a dreamer and all
Speaker:that, you know, she's like, she's six.
Speaker:boyfriend.
Speaker:Oh, yeah, but when he says like she's six, you know,
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:she's cool.
Speaker:She's a dreamer.
Speaker:Of course, she's a chatty little girl.
Speaker:She's six,
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:you know, so
Speaker:There's a lot, there's that type of scene in a lot of this kind
Speaker:of a movie, like the, you know, the unprepared child care has to
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:then they stand
Speaker:up to some, you know, what's going on.
Speaker:authority figure.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:her school career.
Speaker:Seriously.
Speaker:He's like, she's
Speaker:love it.
Speaker:I'll go in there and soften her up for ya.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:he's just sat there
Speaker:And Scott, you were going to bring up what he does to Tia's boyfriend.
Speaker:I mean, now, granted, that would probably land him in jail.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Maybe, but you know what, what parent is going to disagree with that?
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:What a dick, what a douche, you know, it kind of taught him a lesson
Speaker:kind of thing, you know, he knew.
Speaker:Look, we all, it's funny when we're in that age group, right?
Speaker:When we're, we are teenagers, we know exactly how we're thinking.
Speaker:Now we get older.
Speaker:That's like when we become protective look, I know what the wolf is like.
Speaker:I was the wolf.
Speaker:I know how to watch out for this.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:You need to watch out who this kind of person is.
Speaker:And you know, she's going to T is always going to fight it because she
Speaker:is pissed off rightfully so I get it.
Speaker:Especially for girls, you go through a lot and in that 10 year
Speaker:period of like anywhere from 12 to 25, that's a 13 year precious.
Speaker:It's a, it's a tough go.
Speaker:It's you, you know, you, you start to go to battle with each other
Speaker:over boys and who looks good.
Speaker:And you have so much more pressure put on you in those ages as you're
Speaker:developing, not only physically, but mentally, like it's yeah.
Speaker:Most boys are just like, you know, just let's throw rocks at each other.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:jokes
Speaker:jokes and throw rocks at each other.
Speaker:Like we don't, we still, we haven't matured.
Speaker:Look at Steve.
Speaker:we're still doing it now.
Speaker:still doing it now.
Speaker:so to then at the move across country and also be responsible to not really
Speaker:the cross country, it's only a couple hours away, but to then be responsible
Speaker:for your brothers and sisters.
Speaker:But also I think listeners should remember.
Speaker:No cell phones, no internet phone is all you knew each other.
Speaker:And once you moved out of town, you were pretty much forgotten about.
Speaker:Cause someone else knew came around.
Speaker:Like you, you weren't calling long distance to talk for
Speaker:hours in the eighties.
Speaker:You out of your mind, how long that much that costs.
Speaker:So for her to have to go through all this and then feel this disconnected,
Speaker:her parents have kind of only forgot about her, but are not forgetting about
Speaker:the brothers and sister, know, and.
Speaker:So T is obviously going to push, push, push, but Buck steps up for, because
Speaker:he's just a good, he's a good guy.
Speaker:He's the funny thing about the whole movie is we open up with him.
Speaker:I'm not ready to be a father.
Speaker:I'd like my own life.
Speaker:I don't think I'd be good with kids.
Speaker:And he completely proves that no, you are the one person in the movie
Speaker:who probably should have kids.
Speaker:Cause you actually a pretty good rapport with them and also a good idea what it
Speaker:is to bring them up and be there for him.
Speaker:And that was, I think that's what makes the movie so endearing.
Speaker:Yeah, and I like that moment,
Speaker:it, it's great.
Speaker:I like that little moment when he was on his own with the dog and he's smoking
Speaker:a cigar and he's sort of talking about what people, you know, people used to say
Speaker:about him having the freedom and being a fun guy and all this and now they, they
Speaker:don't say it anymore and sort of like
Speaker:something a bit touching to that.
Speaker:he's realizing,
Speaker:I mean, how old is the oldest daughter supposed to be in it,
Speaker:by the way, because I'm 15.
Speaker:I think he says
Speaker:Yeah, so I, so I think obviously she's, so she's in that, every,
Speaker:every kid that age is in that thing, especially having two very, two brother
Speaker:and sister a lot younger, is on one hand, you're supposed to be looking
Speaker:after them, but then your parents are treating you like a kid as well.
Speaker:So she's got that, that angst, that teenage angst thing going on.
Speaker:And, so I think Buck kind of, he knows,
Speaker:He pretty much reads the signals.
Speaker:he does
Speaker:He knows what's going on,
Speaker:straight away.
Speaker:You can get pregnant on, on your parents time, but when I'm here,
Speaker:you know, something to that effect.
Speaker:And she's like, he's like, I don't care what you think.
Speaker:I'm,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:He's going to be honest.
Speaker:He's given it to her straight.
Speaker:Like when he says about bowling, it's been proven.
Speaker:It's very unlikely to get pregnant at a bowling alley.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Or something like that.
Speaker:And then his girlfriend has been wanting to get married
Speaker:and have kids this whole time.
Speaker:And then finally, by the end, he's like, why didn't we do this earlier?
Speaker:And she's like, oh, my God, I want to murder you
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I think it just took him to realize that he, I think he was afraid.
Speaker:I think there's a part of it that, you know, you can read into as you get older.
Speaker:He knows he's, he loves his freedom, but he knows he hasn't amounted to much.
Speaker:Although I will say, I will say this, apartment across from Wrigley
Speaker:field, he's making some good money.
Speaker:Like nowadays, that's an expensive piece of property to have in
Speaker:shock in the Chicago area to be across from Wrigley field.
Speaker:He could have, if he owned that, he could, he's making millions
Speaker:of dollars if he sold that.
Speaker:But anyways so I think he realizes that.
Speaker:He hasn't grown up to be much and he's afraid that if he has kids, they're going
Speaker:to grow up to be nothing because of him.
Speaker:So I think there's this real I don't, you know, he can, he
Speaker:bullshits that I don't need to, I don't, you know, I like my freedom.
Speaker:I can be able to just put my golf clubs in the car and go
Speaker:play golf or bowl or whatever.
Speaker:At the end of the day, it's a fear that he realizes he hasn't amounted to much.
Speaker:And he doesn't want to bring kids into the equation and let them down
Speaker:and then them not amount to much.
Speaker:But then he realizes that, actually, he's the most suited person for it.
Speaker:Cause yeah, his brother's doing better than him.
Speaker:His brother doesn't even know when his fucking kid's hockey's over with
Speaker:or what to get him for his birthday.
Speaker:Meanwhile, he's making pancakes the size of fucking Buicks
Speaker:and knocking out drunk clowns.
Speaker:Which I fucking love.
Speaker:Yeah, and protecting the, I mean, he, yeah, protecting Tia from that shitty bug,
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:You had mentioned something about before cell phones.
Speaker:And
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:times that he, he, you know, he really wants to go to the racetrack and he's
Speaker:always out kind of trying to protect Tia and he has to bring the little
Speaker:kids and they're, it's hilarious.
Speaker:Their conversations,
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:There was, there was little adults themselves.
Speaker:They're just little adults in car seats.
Speaker:That's really what they are.
Speaker:but Buck, they're driving around looking for Tia.
Speaker:How did he know where this party in the woods was?
Speaker:Bucks been to that party in the woods because bucks been
Speaker:to that party in the woods.
Speaker:I
Speaker:This isn't bucks.
Speaker:First time he knows, he knows where people are partying, you know, where
Speaker:dad is probably more straight laced.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Buck is definitely he smokes.
Speaker:He drank like the buck has had his time.
Speaker:He knows, you know, he's been a fun guy.
Speaker:He even said that.
Speaker:No,
Speaker:Doesn't he ask some people?
Speaker:Doesn't he?
Speaker:forget.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Does it, does he ask whatever friends that was the party?
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:which was even funnier.
Speaker:He's like, got a cigar and then he gets somewhere along the line, he gets a
Speaker:right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:you guys know T guys He's like drinking with him, and they're
Speaker:like, what the fuck's going on here?
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:Oh God, love Buck.
Speaker:God.
Speaker:God, I love Buck so much.
Speaker:I forgot how much I really liked this movie.
Speaker:he's a great, yeah.
Speaker:And the clown,
Speaker:sorry.
Speaker:with the
Speaker:The clown, Mike Starr who plays the clown.
Speaker:He's been in, he's in Goodfellas.
Speaker:He's in a ton of stuff.
Speaker:Cause I actually had to look him up.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Obviously I could recognize him with all that makeup, but
Speaker:minute, I think I know this
Speaker:yeah, I was like, I know that guy, so I had to look that up, but he's been in a,
Speaker:I could kind of tell
Speaker:he's one of those character actors, he's been in Dumb and Dumber,
Speaker:he's in loads of stuff, isn't he?
Speaker:But sorry, yeah, that was just, I just wanted to,
Speaker:but my favorite part is it's again, it's just this direction is he gets
Speaker:punched and he goes back out of frame, but comes back into frame to get pumped.
Speaker:and get punched again, yeah,
Speaker:me laugh.
Speaker:I forgot how much fun.
Speaker:I forgot the clown until he shows up in the mouse car.
Speaker:I remember, I remember what was about to happen.
Speaker:And I just, I laughed like I did back in 1989, where I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker:He's just punched him and he goes backwards and the, Oh, comes right back.
Speaker:Almost like a weeble
Speaker:punch him again.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:There were a
Speaker:a drunk,
Speaker:like that
Speaker:a drunk clown though, you know, it's classic.
Speaker:God, it was so good.
Speaker:it was so much fun.
Speaker:do that anymore.
Speaker:Like, when he gets hit by the bowling ball there's a few times where they do that.
Speaker:Very, it's like a style of the 80s comedy that we don't,
Speaker:we don't really get anymore.
Speaker:but a good, but a good one too.
Speaker:It wasn't, it didn't feel like old or oh it was just a nice trope that, that lands.
Speaker:It's a good comedy bit that lands as opposed to you know,
Speaker:the old, oh, kick in the nuts.
Speaker:You know, that's always funny, but you know, certain things like
Speaker:pies in the face aren't funny.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:you're in the context like older films, like you can watch the Three Stooges
Speaker:do it and it's hilarious because it's of a time and you just love it.
Speaker:But, you know, if I was watching Adam Sandler hit Rob Schneider
Speaker:in the face with a pie, I'd be like, what the fuck are we doing?
Speaker:This is 2025, you know what I mean?
Speaker:But this Uncle Buck thing, this punch in the face, go back and go back, it works.
Speaker:It would work now in a movie if we saw that.
Speaker:You'd laugh your ass off because it's just really good comedic timing.
Speaker:And,
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:oh God, Hughes, and he's dead too.
Speaker:God damn, we lost both Johns.
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:that's why, that's, yeah, that's why America's, that's
Speaker:why America's gone to shit.
Speaker:Yeah, we
Speaker:lost our threat.
Speaker:Oh
Speaker:You're the only parent.
Speaker:what parenting, like if this movie were made now, what are like
Speaker:some parenting trends that, that, that Uncle Buck would like butt
Speaker:geez.
Speaker:Do you think?
Speaker:it's funny, him attacking the teacher is very reminiscent of
Speaker:what things happened today, but he had a very reason for it, right?
Speaker:Like she was being overly dramatic with that principal about a six year old.
Speaker:Nowadays, kids aren't responsible for anything.
Speaker:And so now it's like the parent will ask you, what did you do?
Speaker:What did I do to cause your student to try to stab someone with scissors?
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:You're a psycho.
Speaker:I don't know which one you want the answer to be.
Speaker:So, It would be different.
Speaker:Would the kids be, would they do anything fun if this movie was made today?
Speaker:They'll be on their iPhones are playing video games, right?
Speaker:Like uncle buck would probably be getting into trouble.
Speaker:He's probably doing drugs in the
Speaker:It would
Speaker:He's just,
Speaker:would probably
Speaker:be like the
Speaker:he'd be at the race.
Speaker:He'd take, he'd go to the racehorse.
Speaker:He'd be like, look, kids, here's some TV.
Speaker:Here's some games.
Speaker:Good luck.
Speaker:I'm going to be going to play the horses.
Speaker:would be a different movie today.
Speaker:It, I don't think it would work.
Speaker:I mean, I'm sure we could move it, but I don't, would it have the heart?
Speaker:Would it have the story?
Speaker:That we need for today, you know, would, would we get the message at all?
Speaker:Because everyone's all the time.
Speaker:Like it literally is a screen epidemic that is ruining kids.
Speaker:Like it's generation coming up.
Speaker:I try to warn my students.
Speaker:I know I'm so old man shakes business guy, but with AI and robotics that
Speaker:are advancing at lightning speed, if students don't have skills, They're gonna
Speaker:live with their parents for forever.
Speaker:that's really the truth.
Speaker:They have no skills.
Speaker:A lot of things are going away.
Speaker:I would call fallback jobs, right?
Speaker:Working at working at Walmart or working at a grocery store working.
Speaker:Anything that has like a register nowadays is being replaced already by either
Speaker:self checkout or gonna be replaced.
Speaker:Over here in America, at least, McDonald's in California is
Speaker:already testing out robots with ai.
Speaker:So you'll need three people to work there, the manager, to
Speaker:make sure no one robs the joint.
Speaker:And then some guy who can fix robots and maybe a programmer, and that's it.
Speaker:So if you don't like school and you quit, what are you going to do?
Speaker:And kids these days don't want to do hard labor.
Speaker:So they're not going to join somebody's or, you know, they're not going to go
Speaker:do the old blue collar work because they don't actually want to do labor work.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:This film would be different.
Speaker:It'd be a lot different.
Speaker:It'd be like Uncle Robot Buck or something like that.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:I don't,
Speaker:that
Speaker:don't know.
Speaker:Trying to get Insta famous or, you know,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And yeah, and you know, probably Tia's probably trying to do that.
Speaker:And then we get some boyfriend who's trying to get her an
Speaker:OnlyFans or something like that.
Speaker:You know, you could probably move it that way.
Speaker:You probably could, but yeah, I mean, even with Buck, would, would we allow
Speaker:a, you know, he couldn't he wouldn't just be able to walk into a school.
Speaker:There'd be, it would be a different type of film.
Speaker:And I just don't think would still have the same heart And comedic timing
Speaker:that uncle Buck in 1989 did because I, it's one of those last few generations
Speaker:where you're a latchkey kid, where you going outside is something you
Speaker:do going places like a Chuck E.
Speaker:Cheese, or I don't know if they have the equivalent over in the UK, but
Speaker:going places with your like bowling with your, your family was something you did.
Speaker:Like it was a thing we always did.
Speaker:Like you go out and you want to do things being stuck in the house.
Speaker:Wasn't, you know, if you're stuck in the house, you played a few video games.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:you watch movies and, you know, you, you play with your toys and your friends,
Speaker:and that's not the thing kids want to do.
Speaker:They just want to go home and play video games and they just
Speaker:want to stay on the screens.
Speaker:And so the fun that we get from the film of them going places, even kids don't,
Speaker:I guess it's probably a good thing.
Speaker:They don't sneak out to try to drink much anymore.
Speaker:Like it's just, everyone just stays home.
Speaker:know what I mean?
Speaker:Everyone's social without being social.
Speaker:They're on social media, but they're not actually Interacting with one another.
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:And so it'd be a different kind of movie.
Speaker:Like I'll go back when I have go far, use this, find a, find a phone.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:her in a minute.
Speaker:She would be able to sneak out anywhere.
Speaker:wouldn't have to drive around in
Speaker:No.
Speaker:to try
Speaker:and
Speaker:And the
Speaker:woods.
Speaker:generation's gone away, right?
Speaker:I think we were the last generation, at least in America.
Speaker:I know it's a bit more of American thing.
Speaker:We're the last of the mall generation.
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:Maybe millennials, maybe some, you know, probably some millennials, but after that.
Speaker:the mall culture is going where everyone shops on Amazon.
Speaker:I mean, the malls are starting to disappear.
Speaker:So that, that, that thing.
Speaker:mall culture growing up.
Speaker:I
Speaker:Oh well, you're in
Speaker:that had like a mall.
Speaker:Like, That was the thing
Speaker:Can't spell Mawesome.
Speaker:Steve.
Speaker:It's it's they've corn and that corn and Jesus.
Speaker:I'm just kidding.
Speaker:I'm not getting into this.
Speaker:movies but I didn't like, hang out at the mall because I
Speaker:just didn't live in a big enough city to
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:a cool
Speaker:mall like that.
Speaker:But yeah.
Speaker:But even that's, you know, it's gone away.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:Like the, the, the culture that we see in the film of students and the
Speaker:teenagers and even the young kids.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's a, it's almost like we're on Mars now on the opposite side.
Speaker:Like kids these days don't have any idea what that is like.
Speaker:So it'd be a very, I mean, you know what, if someone could make a new uncle
Speaker:buck and make it as good and relatable as today, they should win the Academy
Speaker:Award because that is a stretch, right?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Like some parents going to flip out about, you're trying to make
Speaker:my kid fat with all these pancakes.
Speaker:Like someone's going to have an issue with something like that.
Speaker:Like where it's shot, that lady walks in, maybe there's a homeowner
Speaker:with a gun, she gets shot.
Speaker:Uncle Buck's got an AR 15 and shoots her.
Speaker:mean, he's smoking everywhere.
Speaker:Yes he would be vaping now.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:it'd be.
Speaker:It'd be a big vapor.
Speaker:I love, oh, speaking of the, the smoking thing, he's like,
Speaker:oh, I used to smoke cigarette.
Speaker:I'm on I'm on a 5 year something I used
Speaker:Brilliant.
Speaker:and now
Speaker:I smoke cigars and then after this, it's going to be a pipe and then it's going to
Speaker:Chewing tobacco.
Speaker:Then the gum.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:the gum, yeah.
Speaker:I'm on a five year plan, yeah.
Speaker:And
Speaker:The worst thing to, yeah, I
Speaker:looking at him like, horrified.
Speaker:think she's just you have a five year plan, but it's about smoking.
Speaker:What's your, by your financial point
Speaker:there was not a ton of trivia that I found about this movie, but exterior
Speaker:of the house was an actual house.
Speaker:But the inside was like all of the sets were built in a school gym, their home.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:was
Speaker:a set, built in a school gymnasium.
Speaker:That is such good lighting.
Speaker:Mm-hmm
Speaker:know.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:It sounds kind of put on my beret and smoke a cigar, but cause if you, cause
Speaker:you know, you can, when you see a set on a TV show, you know they're on a stage.
Speaker:Like you can just feel even no matter what, the lighting is, you just know.
Speaker:if you had told me that if I would have guessed a hundred percent that
Speaker:that was in someone's home and they just, you know, they rented it out for
Speaker:whatever amount of time they needed to shoot, I would not have said that
Speaker:that was a set that's really well lit.
Speaker:They did a great job of making that feel like that was in the suburbs of Chicago.
Speaker:I would have
Speaker:Yeah, looks like a home.
Speaker:guaranteed that
Speaker:like you're inside, you get that feel.
Speaker:That you're in someone's home.
Speaker:too.
Speaker:Yeah
Speaker:so there's some lost in translation.
Speaker:You know how they rename movies for other countries?
Speaker:right.
Speaker:title, Alone with Our Uncle.
Speaker:Ooh,
Speaker:sounds pretty sinister.
Speaker:how about
Speaker:I was
Speaker:that?
Speaker:Yeah, that's, that's now it is a horror movie in 1989.
Speaker:Ah, no big deal.
Speaker:don't know what countries, but I think that got lost in translation.
Speaker:The reverse.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:Alone with her.
Speaker:She couldn't just say Buck?
Speaker:Or just Uncle?
Speaker:That's weird, Alone with her
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:our, alone with our uncle.
Speaker:I missed it, I think, but I guess there's a, the freeze frame of John
Speaker:Candy in the ending scene is also used in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
Speaker:yes, yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker:I did not know that.
Speaker:I'm gonna have to note of that when I watch Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:Did Winona Ryder ever be in any one of John Hughes movies?
Speaker:Or does he have a thing with her?
Speaker:Because this could just be pure coincidence.
Speaker:But I noticed the elementary school's name was Winona.
Speaker:I
Speaker:And I thought that way.
Speaker:I was like, that's gotta be something.
Speaker:Winona, that's like a very specific name.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Scott, that
Speaker:felt it.
Speaker:Felt it.
Speaker:I just, I just thought that today.
Speaker:Ryder was the first choice for the role of Tia.
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:look at that.
Speaker:Every now and again, the old man brings something up.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:even, I didn't even see that.
Speaker:her in Beetlejuice the year before, but she was working on Heathers, so she
Speaker:okay.
Speaker:I think she did the right thing.
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I think the girl played Tia was great.
Speaker:I think she, you know, that may be the only role she ever was really known for.
Speaker:And, you know, That we all remember.
Speaker:I thought she was really good as this bratty fucking holy
Speaker:I thought she was horrible till the last five minutes, so.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, but I'm good, but that's, that's a good role, right?
Speaker:It's just like
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker:you're like, fuck this bitch.
Speaker:I hope McGregor, I hope they throw her out the window.
Speaker:Then you're like, man, that's a really good acting job.
Speaker:If I, if I have a visceral feeling about an actress, I want her dead on set.
Speaker:You're like, you're doing a great job, ma'am.
Speaker:His other muses were also considered, I guess, for that role.
Speaker:Allie Sheedy and Molly Ringwald.
Speaker:Oh, it makes sense.
Speaker:but yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker:Makes
Speaker:could have seen that.
Speaker:Rick Moran has turned down the role of the dad.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:You've been under used in
Speaker:not much of a role, is it?
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:I, that makes sense.
Speaker:So, you know, that's just, yeah, you need someone who's cause you
Speaker:want, I want to remember John Candy, who cares about the dad, right?
Speaker:Cause John can is, you know, I'm like, Oh wait, was Rick Moranis going to pop
Speaker:back in here at any time or, you know, like what if Bill Murray was the dead?
Speaker:You're like, is Bill showing up any moment?
Speaker:Cause we can have a little comedy here
Speaker:However, Steve Martin was also considered.
Speaker:the
Speaker:for the
Speaker:Jesus Christ.
Speaker:What a waste.
Speaker:dad.
Speaker:I know but
Speaker:I guess they'd have got done more with it if
Speaker:right.
Speaker:You're
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:That,
Speaker:fun tongue in cheek moment about playing strange in automobiles.
Speaker:In that, in the, if he was the father there for
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:That could have been fun.
Speaker:Yeah, that could have been fun.
Speaker:Literally every actor under the Sun.
Speaker:It seems was thrown around for the role of buck Like literally like Bill Murray
Speaker:Jim Belushi Dudley Moore Danny DeVito Dan Aykroyd George went Michael Keaton Ed
Speaker:O'Neill Williams Jack Nicholson Joe Pesci Tom Hanks Kurt Russell and, oh, I took
Speaker:Kurt,
Speaker:Russell.
Speaker:Kurt Russell.
Speaker:and
Speaker:Martin Short were considered and which is weird.
Speaker:They were in Captain Ron together,
Speaker:Joe Pesci, a short Italian.
Speaker:Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker:Just
Speaker:to the
Speaker:kidding.
Speaker:Hey,
Speaker:Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker:you ever see a fucking hatchet, huh?
Speaker:You little piece of shit.
Speaker:That would've been great.
Speaker:Joe Pesci's the best, the best option because it's different, right?
Speaker:John Candy's what, 6'4 350?
Speaker:Joe Pesci's 2'2
Speaker:2.
Speaker:foot 2.
Speaker:pounds, you know what I mean?
Speaker:DeVito too.
Speaker:Like he was
Speaker:And Dudley, and, and you say, did you say Dudley Moore?
Speaker:Dudley
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Kurt Russell seems out of place.
Speaker:How does Kurt Russell as Snake Blizzcon if he comes in with the
Speaker:Mr. Relia Mr. Reliable, though, and he could have, it had
Speaker:just done it, wouldn't it?
Speaker:It would have been great.
Speaker:Yeah, I can't say it, but
Speaker:I can see him as you know, Like the Jack Burton, irresponsible,
Speaker:fun uncle,
Speaker:Good point, yeah.
Speaker:something like that.
Speaker:But there was 1 actor that they were pretty seriously
Speaker:considering and he's very similar.
Speaker:I'm curious if you guys can guess it.
Speaker:They, they were going to actually.
Speaker:John was considered for another 1 of this actor's roles, but
Speaker:died before he could do it.
Speaker:So the, the role I'm referring to is
Speaker:This is Tom Deluise.
Speaker:Oh, oh.
Speaker:Is it Louis,
Speaker:who's the other heavy white guy named Louis, what's his last name?
Speaker:He just recently passed away.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:oh.
Speaker:clearly not because you would have already told me.
Speaker:That's him.
Speaker:not him, It's not him, but he was in,
Speaker:You know who I'm talking about, right?
Speaker:to America.
Speaker:yes, yes.
Speaker:Louis Anderson, Louis Anderson.
Speaker:It's not him, but it is a heavy white guy,
Speaker:It's not Dom DeLuise.
Speaker:So who's the other heavy white guy?
Speaker:two TV show from 1989.
Speaker:Oh, John Goodman.
Speaker:Sean
Speaker:No?
Speaker:Mm-hmm
Speaker:okay, okay.
Speaker:Yeah, because he was heavy set that time.
Speaker:He, you know, he might've been, he, he
Speaker:Yeah, he's good.
Speaker:He's another reliable guy that
Speaker:don't think any of the people we've named outside of maybe some funny
Speaker:things that could have changed.
Speaker:I don't think anyone's better than John Candy.
Speaker:And
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:that was the, that was the, right role.
Speaker:I think John Candy was the right, perfect person for it.
Speaker:percent there were TV shows.
Speaker:There was actually
Speaker:did see this.
Speaker:2 2 TV shows.
Speaker:Did you guys know that?
Speaker:I only knew cause I was looking it up today.
Speaker:I was like, holy shit.
Speaker:They made an uncle buck TV show.
Speaker:Like Holy cow.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:that was on CBS and it starred Kevin Meaney as Buck, a
Speaker:slob who drinks and smokes.
Speaker:I don't even think I know who Kevin Meaney is, then there was a more recent 1.
Speaker:With like famous people in it, a 2016 version on ABC.
Speaker:was another, it was an adaptation with a black cast with
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Oh, Mike, I,
Speaker:again, I still think he needs someone heavy, right?
Speaker:I still just, you need,
Speaker:Epps
Speaker:need someone who's, you know, you know, like someone's with
Speaker:some stature, a little bit of,
Speaker:And
Speaker:some weight to them.
Speaker:I think that's what sells the uncle buck personality, right?
Speaker:Like it just, you know, he, you know, he's not taking care of himself too
Speaker:much, but it's just, I don't know what that, the heavier set funny uncle.
Speaker:I think that works a little bit better.
Speaker:Not that Mike Epps isn't a funny guy, but I just don't see Mike Epps
Speaker:is, you know, You know what I mean?
Speaker:Neither of these were successful, but, and James Leisure and Nia Long,
Speaker:like all three of those are like very well known black actors, but
Speaker:neither one of those were successful.
Speaker:You
Speaker:You know, this, and this is, you know, not against, I think, you know, I think.
Speaker:I have no problem with that option, but it is, it's a different, we talk about
Speaker:because Tarantino wanted to redo his last movie being Reservoir Dogs with an all
Speaker:black cast, which changes the entire,
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:line of what Reservoir Dogs would be, right?
Speaker:Cause you're now telling it from a completely different perspective.
Speaker:Set of circumstances that the I don't know what I'm trying to side to into But
Speaker:when we're shooting at cops white people shooting at cops is different than if we
Speaker:would we have waited Till Joe shot like there's things that now change the tone
Speaker:of the film when you change the race So but does Uncle Buck land the same?
Speaker:Cause it's a different experience in the suburbs for black people in America.
Speaker:It's not the same, you know, it's
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:maybe when you're selling Uncle Buck one, does a black audience
Speaker:care about the movie Uncle Buck?
Speaker:It's not a story that probably really reaches out to them.
Speaker:Cause it's all white.
Speaker:There's, is there any black people in Uncle Buck?
Speaker:I can't remember.
Speaker:Maybe in the bowling alley.
Speaker:I don't think there was.
Speaker:people in hardly like most of this is this is actually a criticism.
Speaker:Oh, is it
Speaker:just not necessarily Uncle Buck, but now that I'm thinking through
Speaker:Hughes films?
Speaker:John Hughes.
Speaker:black people.
Speaker:of
Speaker:I, yeah.
Speaker:I
Speaker:Well, the 80s, I guess.
Speaker:Mm-hmm
Speaker:and I think, okay, so now we got so one is the story going to land with
Speaker:a black audience because now it's what you're selling it to and as a
Speaker:white audience going to want to watch.
Speaker:A story that they know, but it's completely different.
Speaker:Like now it's foreign to them as well.
Speaker:Not that they can't coincide,
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:You're
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Although
Speaker:sucking John candy.
Speaker:And then, you know, nothing gets my guts.
Speaker:That's those are big shoes to fill,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Those are just big shoes to fill.
Speaker:The story isn't super unique.
Speaker:There have been several,
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That'd be nostalgia,
Speaker:alone with our uncle and they turn into a horror movie.
Speaker:Uncle Buck.
Speaker:And now,
Speaker:yeah, you'd be making it, you'd be making it as on a, that'd be a
Speaker:nostalgic trip for the adults really, more than it would be aimed at
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:kids at that time.
Speaker:I mean, we're gonna have to start wrapping things up, you guys.
Speaker:I can't thank you enough for
Speaker:Thank you for letting
Speaker:Thanks for having us.
Speaker:your show.
Speaker:Yeah, that's what we do.
Speaker:it.
Speaker:What, you guys have closing thoughts on Uncle Bok?
Speaker:Oh, my esteemed gentlemen from the UK go first.
Speaker:Yeah, I mean, it's a classic slice of 80s nostalgia, it's
Speaker:happy people with happy problems.
Speaker:So it's that comforting kind of movie.
Speaker:There's nothing too, nothing too edgy, nothing overly raunchy about it.
Speaker:It's a family movie, it's a family comedy, which I'm not
Speaker:sure they even make now, really.
Speaker:You you're not wrong.
Speaker:I don't
Speaker:You know, and I don't, I think you, you genuinely could sit together
Speaker:as a family and watch this, and the adults aren't chewing their nails,
Speaker:thinking, oh, here comes that scene.
Speaker:Or, you know, I mean, even, even the The washing machine scene would just go over
Speaker:people's, it doesn't matter, it's, it's irreverent, it's not like everyone's going
Speaker:to suddenly be like, you know, the movies, you know, we've all sat there with our
Speaker:parents and watched a movie and suddenly there's nudity or there's something
Speaker:and everyone feels completely awkward.
Speaker:I mean, even in like Ghostbusters, there's a scene where a ghost
Speaker:is giving Dan Aykroyd I mean?
Speaker:So that you can, there are movies, there are movies where
Speaker:That's the
Speaker:there are,
Speaker:baby
Speaker:but there are movies where there's that awkwardness and because I, but
Speaker:I think this is one of those movies where there's something for everyone.
Speaker:Like Fatal Attraction
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, you sit down with your
Speaker:Hey, yeah, exactly.
Speaker:But you know, but there's something for everyone in there.
Speaker:You know, you've got the little kids, you've got the teenager, and
Speaker:you've got the adults, and then, and you've got, The uncles and
Speaker:aunties like, ah, so, just, so yeah,
Speaker:I'm like, I'm
Speaker:something, something for us too, I am uncle, yeah
Speaker:real
Speaker:so yeah,
Speaker:Steve, to your point about the 1 of the things I had kind of forgotten until you
Speaker:were talking about, oh, there's stuff for the adults, the, the sequence where he's
Speaker:talking with his girlfriend on the phone, I think, and they have names for her.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:and he's no,
Speaker:that's what we called your boobs.
Speaker:And then
Speaker:Felix, And then we jump to the cat outside.
Speaker:Brilliant.
Speaker:It's the Little Red Corvette.
Speaker:what it is.
Speaker:It's, it's, it's, it's how you, you make an innuendo without hitting
Speaker:people with the head with a hammer and
Speaker:Yeah, that's it, yeah, yeah,
Speaker:moments that everyone's going to laugh at, but you don't have to just be
Speaker:like, we're going to see the P word.
Speaker:You just, you just got to who let, who let the cat out?
Speaker:We don't have a cat.
Speaker:Get out of here.
Speaker:It's
Speaker:just a
Speaker:so,
Speaker:it
Speaker:yeah, so that's the thing about it, you know, you, there
Speaker:is something for everyone.
Speaker:And it's not uncomfortable for anyone, and it's, it's just a fun time.
Speaker:And that's why
Speaker:it stood the test of time, probably.
Speaker:Because I don't think I've ever met anyone who hasn't seen it and doesn't like it.
Speaker:It's not,
Speaker:Good point.
Speaker:yeah, it's one of those movies that we all sort of It's not necessarily
Speaker:nostalgic, because I bet you there's kids who could watch it today and enjoy it.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:You know, so yeah, for me that's just a solid bit of family entertainment,
Speaker:and that's very rare these days.
Speaker:That's no wonder we look back.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:Well said, sir. Said indeed.
Speaker:Anything to add Scott or,
Speaker:being a child of an eighties, being a child of the eighties
Speaker:This is just such a great movie.
Speaker:I said earlier, John Candy, this is brilliant.
Speaker:of Macaulay Culkin as a little kid.
Speaker:I know Steve doesn't like him, but he hates kids anyways.
Speaker:But this is, it's, it's like when Steve and I talk about action movies, right?
Speaker:Like you, you know, You want your, your movies to kind of move quick.
Speaker:This movie does exactly what it's supposed to.
Speaker:We go, we, we, we get to tell a story.
Speaker:We go on a journey, but the jokes keep coming and we, and it doesn't
Speaker:feel like you're just like, is this thing going to fucking end?
Speaker:Like it just keeps moving from a beat to a beat, funny stuff,
Speaker:innuendos, things here, things there.
Speaker:By the time you're done, you're like, Oh my God, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker:You forget how good this kind of movie is.
Speaker:And you start to realize, Oh my God.
Speaker:Of all the blueprints we've taken in Hollywood, where all we do is
Speaker:now superhero movies out the ass.
Speaker:aren't movies like, why aren't we looking back at movies like this and not
Speaker:remaking them, but taking their beats and their structure and go, now we can
Speaker:try to, this is how you're supposed to make, this is how the sausage should be
Speaker:made for comedies, for family comedies.
Speaker:And we don't do that anymore.
Speaker:And that's kind of a disappointment and a disservice to people because this
Speaker:is the, this is the, like Steve said, this is the perfect movie for a family.
Speaker:I could show this to my grandkids.
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:And not worry about it.
Speaker:And I know if I show it to them young, like McCulloch, they're going
Speaker:to laugh at the kid stuff and the adults can laugh at the adult stuff.
Speaker:And we're all going to have a good time, have some popcorn.
Speaker:And we're all going to be like, night.
Speaker:You know, like they'll laugh at Oh, he said shit.
Speaker:Like we all, they were the kids.
Speaker:He said nuts and balls.
Speaker:Of course, you know, you're going to laugh.
Speaker:But then when you get to the kiddie part, the adults will
Speaker:laugh and think that's funny.
Speaker:And the kids were like, wait a minute.
Speaker:I don't worry about it.
Speaker:It's the cat joke.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:Like it's, it's fun for everybody.
Speaker:And I just, I don't know that you miss.
Speaker:The star magnetism of people like a John Candy.
Speaker:We don't have that anymore.
Speaker:We don't, we're missing some of these star people who command a scene.
Speaker:Like when you, you know, you see a John Candy would be like, man, that was fun.
Speaker:Like plane, trains, and all will be as you go watch that completely different.
Speaker:Even when he does his little cameo in the end of Home Alone, he's, you know,
Speaker:the, the polka band driving her home.
Speaker:He's just great in everything he does.
Speaker:And then of course the great outdoors with Dan Aykroyd.
Speaker:I mean, fucking such a good Fun time of these movies with an amazing guy.
Speaker:And it's a slice of our youth, but I really feel like it's a missing piece in
Speaker:today's cinema that has not been filled.
Speaker:And no one is filling this, this void of the comedy that would bring families
Speaker:together to go to a movie together.
Speaker:There's just, it's either watching kids movies like a Disney
Speaker:movies or you're, that's it.
Speaker:You know, you're not getting
Speaker:John Hughes types.
Speaker:these are low budget movies too.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:know
Speaker:why they aren't,
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:I guess, sort of a double thing here where, I mean, you, you,
Speaker:you did have like School of Rock
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But
Speaker:and you could almost say Jack Black would be a good Uncle Buck,
Speaker:that's a great pick right there.
Speaker:Good
Speaker:you know, so it could, it's, I think a lot of these comedy guys, they just,
Speaker:they just milked it so quickly with, you know, Will Ferrell, Kevin Hart, all these
Speaker:guys, they just milked it so quickly that even they didn't want to do it anymore.
Speaker:And
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:you look at what Will Ferrell's doing now, you know, he's
Speaker:trying to distance himself from.
Speaker:You know, he's doing, he's trying to spread his wings and
Speaker:do other things because they just milk the comedy thing so much.
Speaker:So yeah,
Speaker:would, yeah.
Speaker:I mean, I guess we don't know because we lost John Candy,
Speaker:mm
Speaker:but you know, what would, what would he have gone on to do?
Speaker:I don't know, you know, but also this type of person, we don't have obese stars.
Speaker:True.
Speaker:very, That's an, that kind of thing.
Speaker:You have to be very pretty and not really that good of an actor
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:I think Bill
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:something recently interview about what funny is.
Speaker:It's not about trying to be funny.
Speaker:It's about playing straight.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:is playing straight and John Candy plays it straight.
Speaker:Bill Murray plays it straight.
Speaker:That's what makes them funny
Speaker:mm
Speaker:when you react to something with some sarcasm, but you're doing it straight
Speaker:That's why people laugh because you're like, oh my god, that's cut like
Speaker:Steve Carell a little bit does, you know unless he's doing you know, the
Speaker:The movies with Will Ferrell, they're just losing their minds in the tea.
Speaker:That's those are funny, too
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Mm-hmm
Speaker:know, we don't, everyone's trying to play things for huge laughs or being no
Speaker:slapstick stuff, and you don't necessarily
Speaker:You don't need it.
Speaker:don't have, we're going to lose Bill Murray soon.
Speaker:We're going to lose some of these, these greats, and they're
Speaker:going to be gone forever.
Speaker:And there's no one to fill the void.
Speaker:Yeah, and that's that.
Speaker:fill that.
Speaker:void for, for that kind of comedy.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:At least, at least in America, I don't
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:some good English, you know, comedians could do it, but American
Speaker:really.
Speaker:feel like we have anybody to fill the void of these comedic
Speaker:actors on screen you know, even Jim Carrey's pulled himself away.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:I mean, again, he was great at all the stuff he does, but we don't have.
Speaker:left really who's going to fill these voids of the people who we
Speaker:could have a john candy or a bill murray or a Dan akra we we're losing
Speaker:them because there's that's not the style of comedy we do anymore
Speaker:There's actually, I can think of a fair number of, again, they're not young.
Speaker:They're like middle aged now, but like the Kristen Wiggs and the
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:Amy Poehler, like those kind of
Speaker:but they don't get roles much anymore because we're losing because we don't
Speaker:everyone wants like unfortunately Everyone wants the dick and fart jokes,
Speaker:which they work at times But not if everyone's doing them if everyone's
Speaker:doing them you lose everything Any of the fun that used to be what an Adam
Speaker:Sandler movie used to be because he was one of the, you know, the few people
Speaker:who, who are in that realm of comedy.
Speaker:But if everyone's doing that,
Speaker:Yeah, but these
Speaker:the same thing.
Speaker:It's just a retread.
Speaker:Now you're like,
Speaker:yeah
Speaker:Dick and fart joke.
Speaker:But then I think also with the climate we're in in Hollywood Those, these movies,
Speaker:they're not, they don't make enough money.
Speaker:people are kind of scared to, to, you know, I don't know.
Speaker:It's funny though, because it doesn't like this movie made.
Speaker:was made for 15 million dollars.
Speaker:The Breakfast Club, 1 million dollars.
Speaker:I know, crazy.
Speaker:insane.
Speaker:These, these films, these sort of films can't, they can't make,
Speaker:they can't make the money now.
Speaker:That's why we have, that's why we're in the situation we're in with,
Speaker:with Blockbusters and Marvel and all this stuff, is because they need
Speaker:that billion, they want to hit that billion dollar mark and they've,
Speaker:and they, but they haven't got them guarantees anymore, fortunately.
Speaker:Fortunately, they're losing money.
Speaker:you know, so what I'm saying,
Speaker:with streaming, we'd be able to least do it on those, right?
Speaker:If you're
Speaker:yeah, I think people are turning their backs on that bit as well.
Speaker:So
Speaker:it's such a poor product coming out
Speaker:yeah, exactly.
Speaker:You know, but you know, a comedy movie that costs 11 million making 800 million
Speaker:just is not going to happen anymore,
Speaker:You're
Speaker:you know, and I think, and then, and they can't even, they can't even
Speaker:make that money with a sure bet now,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:know, like the Superman movie that's coming out this year.
Speaker:I mean.
Speaker:Part of me is I hope it, I hope it fails, so we can bring it down,
Speaker:bring it down,
Speaker:let's
Speaker:making movies that cost less money.
Speaker:Yeah, that's, we need it, because you know, the well's running dry on
Speaker:all them ideas, and you're gonna have to sort of start listening to people
Speaker:who've got I don't know, ideas and stories and stuff, you know, maybe.
Speaker:I know it's a bit naive of me to think that we could do that, but
Speaker:Yeah, I mean, do you really think as a society, we're moving towards
Speaker:listening to the smart people, or?
Speaker:I wasn't going there, but,
Speaker:in America.
Speaker:We fucking aren't.
Speaker:your point about Oh, listen, you know, people that have
Speaker:creative ideas and this and that
Speaker:I think the wrong people run Hollywood.
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:oh yeah,
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:Hollywood should do this.
Speaker:If you're going to run a studio, run it like a football team.
Speaker:own it.
Speaker:So run it, but put people in place who know what the fuck they're doing.
Speaker:Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker:That's this going to go receive said Dallas Cowboys have a shitty owner
Speaker:in Jerry Jones and I hate the Cowboys anyway, so I'm glad they're doing bad,
Speaker:but they always hire somebody who kisses Jerry's ass and he basically runs it
Speaker:and he's out of touch with the game.
Speaker:you have someone who was like in the Patriots, you own it.
Speaker:you let someone like Bill Belichick run it and look what the production is.
Speaker:So get someone in there who, you know, can smooze and get money and yada,
Speaker:yada, yada, but no, you're fucking lame.
Speaker:Let the real people know what they're doing, do the job and let them create
Speaker:and stay the fuck out of their way.
Speaker:But they don't, they keep getting in the way.
Speaker:And that's why we get terrible product.
Speaker:That's why we remake 20, 000 things.
Speaker:What news begging for any remakes?
Speaker:Thankfully they were, it was a joke, but someone, they were going to remake
Speaker:American psycho with Austin Butler.
Speaker:We don't need a remake.
Speaker:It was perfect the way it is.
Speaker:I
Speaker:I don't think that's a joke, though.
Speaker:it was, it ended up being a joke, but at the time for a while, people
Speaker:were like, there's been talk of Kurt Russell's son reprising his role in
Speaker:a remake of escape from New York.
Speaker:I don't need an escape from New York remake.
Speaker:I am happy with escape from New York.
Speaker:it
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:not need to remake it.
Speaker:of these movies, find something new.
Speaker:Give me something new.
Speaker:What's what else can you come up with besides escape from New York?
Speaker:What else you got in your well there?
Speaker:hmm.
Speaker:yeah spend,
Speaker:new
Speaker:yeah, spend less, spend less but make more,
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:let people in with some ideas, but, you know, that's a whole tangent
Speaker:because all the creatives are working in gaming now, they're not working
Speaker:in Hollywood, and so that, that's just another, but that's a whole,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Oh god, we could
Speaker:Or they're working in television too.
Speaker:Some of the streaming TV is a lot better than some of the movies we get nowadays.
Speaker:Yeah, I
Speaker:just think we're in a very time of mediocre product and
Speaker:everyone's sitting at home.
Speaker:Movies are found at the cinema.
Speaker:Mm hmm
Speaker:You know, films that are critically well received aren't making
Speaker:the money, so they're flops.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:But they're not flops because they suck.
Speaker:They flop because no one's going to the cinema.
Speaker:Which is a whole nother thing, but, when you've gone to see, you can only
Speaker:watch a caped guy throw someone into a building so many times, before it
Speaker:just becomes completely redundant.
Speaker:However,
Speaker:that's why you're not,
Speaker:a movie for an hour and a half of a guy just picking up people and thread
Speaker:it through just, that's his whole
Speaker:You can, you can do,
Speaker:just,
Speaker:do that, you can do that every week, you can do that every week now,
Speaker:but what you can't do is go see films like Uncle Buck, is my point.
Speaker:Uncle
Speaker:right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I like like, yeah, 89.
Speaker:It was I mean, listeners, if you haven't seen Uncle Buck in a minute,
Speaker:I would consider this your sign to
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:all need some
Speaker:Do so.
Speaker:in our lives.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And John Hughes is a great comedic writer.
Speaker:He really is.
Speaker:I mean, he has some other issues, obviously we've kind of unearthed a little
Speaker:bit, but his writing is for comedy is
Speaker:it, it really is.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:He's it feels effortless, right?
Speaker:Like just, you know, you're in certain hands of certain directors,
Speaker:writers, you it's effortless.
Speaker:You don't even realize how good they are.
Speaker:That's how good they are at it.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Like you just sit there and you go, you laugh, you go,
Speaker:it's in that after you've watched it's in that retro.
Speaker:When you go back, you go, holy shit.
Speaker:That's really, I mean, they really nailed this.
Speaker:This was almost ahead of its time.
Speaker:This guy is killing it on all levels.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:You know, so yeah, if your listeners definitely, definitely
Speaker:give a, you know, I know a lot of people are like, John Hughes.
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:It's all those teen movies.
Speaker:Let me tell you what, I'll go buck.
Speaker:I'll go bucks.
Speaker:Pretty fucking good.
Speaker:he, that's kind of where he got, he started his fame and
Speaker:then he kind of turned a corner with it with these family ones.
Speaker:But
Speaker:He got older.
Speaker:He got older himself, I guess, and different things became
Speaker:More important to him.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Or,
Speaker:I mean, you don't want to be a
Speaker:we talked about it in the breakfast club episode as to that.
Speaker:looking for that one.
Speaker:yeah as there were, that was, there was a couple of events that happened,
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:That kind of started that.
Speaker:That was his sign, probably combination to your point.
Speaker:Like he was getting older, but a sign that he started doing this
Speaker:kind of stuff, which I will take it
Speaker:all day, every day.
Speaker:I'll have your guys's links and stuff in the show
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:that you
Speaker:want to tell people to go?
Speaker:For our for the two podcasts we to do together as the cheeky bastards We have
Speaker:the men of action we have dropping a Bruce You can go to the last of the action
Speaker:heroes podcast network, which you're also a part of with some of your other shows
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:the easiest way to probably find us there because our links
Speaker:are there and then for me.
Speaker:I'm just at the church of Qtpod you can type that into any one of
Speaker:the I'll be on Twitter much longer.
Speaker:I think we'll go over to the blue, the blue thing.
Speaker:What's the blue
Speaker:I'm out.
Speaker:I'm out.
Speaker:blue
Speaker:I just got to move to
Speaker:I'm on Blue Sky, yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So I'm moving there.
Speaker:But yeah, other than that yeah, we, we dropped something every.
Speaker:Every other Tuesday basically is how we do it over for ours.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:First up is the men of action and we are doing sequels from action movies that were
Speaker:put pit to it against, against each other.
Speaker:And there's a theme.
Speaker:And then we are just about to start season three, the final
Speaker:full season of dropping a Bruce.
Speaker:So
Speaker:we've got the awards ceremony for the
Speaker:Bruce's birthday, which is in March 19th.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And then we start.
Speaker:The
Speaker:Our tuxes are pressed and we're ready to go.
Speaker:yes,
Speaker:got,
Speaker:it.
Speaker:going to,
Speaker:lined up and everything.
Speaker:got a couple of STDs to hand out.
Speaker:Oof.
Speaker:to spread
Speaker:Yes,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:now, so we're, it's 16 more to go, so we're almost there, but yeah.
Speaker:if you do if you guys liked this episode, please drop a review It could be the
Speaker:podcast version of a giant pancake consider it that to bring it back to uncle
Speaker:buck It does help more retro fans You us.
Speaker:So please do that.
Speaker:And until next time, be kind, rewind.
