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Episode 43

The Breakfast Club | S2E1

In the season 2 debut episode, we travel back to February 1985 for the 40th ANNIVERSARY of The Breakfast Club! We're in for quite the treat with a whole season of John Hughes: Shermer High & Beyond! And let me know what you think of the new "spin" on the time capsule 😉

Ryan Rebalkin - whom I join every other Sunday on One More Round, the Rocky Series Podcast - is here to help me open the season!

Ryan wears many hats! He's a proud father of 6 wonderful kids and also serves in the Navy. But wait, there's more! He's also a podcast host and a YouTube reactor, sharing his thoughts and opinions with the world. When he's not busy entertaining his audience, you can find him running with his with his dog, and cuddling with his cats.

In addition to Rocky, Ryan has a Rambo series podcast called It's a Long Road as well as a show called The Worst of the Best as well as an Ed Zwick miniseries podcast, Zwick's Flicks!

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and

welcome to Retro Made.

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You are Pop Culture.

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Rewind.

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It is season two and I hope

that you feel like you're in

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for an epic ride because I am.

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It's John Hughes Schirmer.

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Hi and Beyond this season

friend of the show.

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Welcoming Back Ryan.

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Thank you so much for joining me to Open.

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Season 2 of Retromade.

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What is new with you?

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What's going on in your

world of podcasting?

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Ryan Rebalkin: My world of podcasting.

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Well, as maybe some of your listeners

know, but of course, Katie and I,

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we do a bi weekly Rocky podcast.

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We're on season five, movie five,

Rocky five, halfway through the film.

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Maybe, maybe it's, it's shaping

up to be the longest season

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of one more round by far.

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Anyways, if you're a Rocky fan.

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That's really the best podcast

out there that covers Rocky.

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I don't care if anyone's

listening to the things.

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Otherwise it just is the best

Rocky podcast that covers Rocky.

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It's called one more round,

the Rocky series podcast.

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And I also do another podcast.

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So let's plug this one.

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It's called the worst of the best podcast.

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You've been on it a couple of times.

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I'm definitely gonna have you on again.

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I.

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Do most of the episodes with my brother,

but he can't make every recording.

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So I do look out for guest hosts.

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It's basically where we just

aggregate a best of topic list.

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We just dropped an episode today at the

time of this recording about predictions

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in history that didn't age well.

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So these are bad predictions of history

that didn't age well, then we pick.

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So these are the best

worst, if that makes sense.

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And then we picked the which one

we really think was the biggest.

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Oof, that's a, that's a bad

prediction that did not age well.

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So yeah, it's those kinds of topics.

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So it's a fun one to do.

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Katie: Pain.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Pain.

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Yes.

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Guys are all over the place.

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Yes.

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We're terrible.

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Yeah.

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Katie: Yeah, I like the worst of the best.

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A

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lot.

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Yeah.

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It's fun.

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Cause It's

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varied.

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Ryan Rebalkin: one.

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That's one.

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That's one listener.

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Yeah, that's the thing about it.

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So yeah, we do a very

focused Rocky pocket.

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If you're not a Rocky fan, you're probably

not listening to that show at all.

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And why would you, but the worst of

the best, what's good about it is that

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there are a variety of topics, but we

try to make it such where every week is

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a different, a wholly different topic.

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And we try to make it where.

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Even if you don't know the

topic, that's the point you're

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learning as you're listening, we

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give, you know, very brief, whatever

descriptions of whatever the topic

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is, but then you're kind of learning.

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And the fun thing is you as a

listener will also have your own

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picks what you think is the worst.

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I don't know.

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I think it's fun.

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I do like it too.

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Yeah.

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Katie: It's fun.

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I listen every, whenever

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they come out.

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Ryan Rebalkin: You're a sweetheart.

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I appreciate it.

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Katie: Well, we do have

A listener email that I

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wanted to bring up

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before we open the time capsule.

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This one is from Scott from all

nineties action all the time.

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He was very kind to congratulating

me on my first season.

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He says, hi, Katie.

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Just thought I'd send you a quick

congratulate you on wrapping

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up season one of your podcast.

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Which I very much enjoyed throughout.

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It was very interesting.

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You highlighting all the

similarities between Kurt and

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Patrick on the wrap up episode.

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Also, despite not having previously

considered them to be close in looks.

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I can definitely see it more.

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Now.

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I'm glad that that happened.

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Scott.

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He says, oh, yeah, I meant to also say.

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Say on the fatherhood episode, you and

your guests were debating where the

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proclaimers were from and doing when,

when we were doing the music chart stuff,

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and I can confirm that they come from

my hometown of Edinburgh, Scotland.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, Scotland.

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Okay.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Katie: email.

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If you want to be like Scott and

you should, you should send me an

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email at retromadepodcast at gmail.

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com.

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Okay.

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As I mentioned in the trailer

for season two, I have mixed up.

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We have a new format

that we're going to try

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out, Ryan, for the time capsule.

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So should we get to opening the time

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capsule from February 15th, 1985.

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This is 40.

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This is the 40th anniversary.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Jeez.

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Katie: So

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Ryan Rebalkin: I'm old.

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Katie: well, we're all old and that's

why we do retro made because we, we,

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can think back.

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So I have come up with some different

categories for the time capsule and

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we're going to spin to choose one.

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And then I'm going to ask you trivia

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questions.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh,

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Katie: To see, test your, test your retro

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knowledge.

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Okay.

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Ryan Rebalkin: right.

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Katie: All right.

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We're going to

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spin it.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Do the

listeners get to play at home?

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Katie: Yes.

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Okay.

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We have come to the

category totally tasty.

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That's what we spun.

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right, Ryan, let's see.

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Ryan Rebalkin: question, I presume.

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Katie: Yes, totally tasty.

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Hmm.

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I have several questions.

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Let me see.

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Which 1980s snack introduced a zesty salad

dressing inspired flavor in a crunchy

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tortilla chip, making it a fan favorite?

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Ryan Rebalkin: So what's

the brand of chip?

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Well,

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Katie: snack?

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What is

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it?

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Ryan Rebalkin: Doritos, Doritos chips.

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Katie: But what kind?

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh

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Katie: These were, you know,

this is stuff relative to

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1985.

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Ryan Rebalkin: well, don't forget

American Canadians have different

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we have different snack items.

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Like our candy bars are,

for example, are different.

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You notice how I said candy bars because

in Canada we call them choco bars.

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But so give me a hint.

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Sorry.

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Is it a chip or is it like bugles

or is it something like that?

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Katie: No, you were right with

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Doritos.

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You were right, but it's a

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, ranch

style flavor chips?

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Doritos?

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Or is it the zesty cheese one?

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Katie: What's it called?

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It

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is, it, you know how there's

multiple flavors of Doritos?

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What do they call it?

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Ryan Rebalkin: Boy, did I say, it's not

called was it something ranch, right?

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Katie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's one more.

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Cool, Cool

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Ranch.

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Ryan Rebalkin: see, people at home,

they're yelling, yeah, of course.

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And I love Doritos, I just

don't eat them anymore.

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Try to stay healthy.

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See?

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Katie: is when you were a kid.

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Weren't you 10

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years old at this time?

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Ryan Rebalkin: know

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what's funny?

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Yes, I was, I was, Yes.

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Thank you for aging me out publicly.

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Fair enough.

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Just for you.

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Yes, I was 10 years old in 85

and I don't think Doritos came or

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they weren't really popularized.

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Until I was like a teenager, I

think they probably obviously came

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to the States first, but if they

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were in Canadian stores, my parents,

my parents never bought them.

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Let me rephrase that.

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I may have bought my own Doritos

when I had my own money, when

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I started delivering newspapers

and working at a restaurant.

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So anyways, of course.

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Cool Ranch Dressing and how could I

forget that because it's literally

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a line from a Guns N Roses song that

came out Axl Rose says that in the

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song and all my, any GNR fan that might

be listening to this is yelling at

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me because I'm a big GNR fan because

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Katie: Me too.

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Ryan Rebalkin: because he actually

says in the song it's pretty tied

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up, there you go, see, he says, Cool

Ranch Dressing, and anyway, it's like

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how could I forget that, so shame

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Katie: Well, so yeah, the snack that

was introduced was Cool Ranch Doritos.

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All right, let's spin it

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again.

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You, that was not very good.

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Let's, let's see

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Ryan Rebalkin: oh jeez,

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Katie: Let's see.

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Ooh, it's on the line.

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VHS vault is the

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category.

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Let's see what we have here.

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What can I ask you?

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Okay.

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There are 5 choices.

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Let's see how many you can get.

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The top 5 video rentals.

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1985, the whole year,

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1985.

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I'll give you hints.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Okay.

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Katie: Let's see how many of the top

5 for the whole year you can list.

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Here's your hint.

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Martial arts.

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Sci fi action, slapstick comedy,

jungle adventure, and college pranks.

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Those were the ingredients of

the top five rentals in 85.

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Can you name them?

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Ryan Rebalkin: Okay.

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So say we'll say the first one again.

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Just the first, the first category.

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I'll just guess like that.

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Go by

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Katie: Martial arts.

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Ryan Rebalkin: 85 martial arts karate kid.

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Katie: Yes.

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Sci fi action.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh Vages rentals.

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This is tricky.

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Katie: VHS rentals.

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Yep.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Okay.

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I'm going to go while I know

Terminator came in part in 84.

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So maybe the rental was 85.

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Katie: You are correct.

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The Terminator is the number

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two.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Okay.

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Katie: slapstick comedy.

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Ryan Rebalkin: slapstick comedy.

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This one's gonna be a little bit tricky.

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It's ridiculous.

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I know I'm just going to go with I

don't like the term slapstick, but

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I'm going to go with a vacation.

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Katie: Police academy.

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Ryan Rebalkin: please

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that

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is slapstick Yep, you're right about

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the slapstick and I was I think the

original vacation might be earlier.

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I think it's like 83 84 Yeah, okay.

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Yeah, that's

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Katie: got two more.

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Ryan Rebalkin: yeah, that's legit.

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Katie: doing pretty good.

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How are you doing at home, you

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guys?

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Jungle Adventure.

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Ryan Rebalkin: romancing the

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stone

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Katie: Yes.

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Yes.

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One of my favorite movies of all time.

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And College Pranks.

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Ryan Rebalkin: college pranks I know

this is gonna be can you at this point?

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I don't know the prank part a prank

movie Like I guess pranks like hijinks.

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Is that what that means?

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Maybe hijinks vice pranks cuz pranks is

when you play trick on somebody right

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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It is.

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And that, that's accurate.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Okay, give me that.

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Maybe just give me an I know it's a

cheat, but I give me a cheat What's

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the actors one of the actors names?

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I know it's a cheat, but

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Katie: Anthony Edwards is

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one of the actors.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, really?

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Oh something like, I know it's not weird

science, but it's something like that.

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Katie: Not Anthony Michael

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Hall.

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Anthony Edwards.

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Ryan Rebalkin: yeah, I know.

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I know the guy from ER, right?

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Katie: Yeah, Yeah.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, and

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Katie: Do you give up All right.

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At home.

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I hope you know it.

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I hope you know

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it.

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Ryan Rebalkin: I haven't

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Katie: Revenge of the

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nerds.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, I have seen,

you know, I've seen that movie

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like literally maybe once.

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It's a funny, it's funny about about

80s comedies, the, those, those type

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of comedies, even now and then or

whatever it was, and I, like you said,

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I was 10 years old when that came out.

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So even when I became a teenager, I

could rent those R rated comedies.

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As well, I watched them when I

was younger, but the point is, I

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never thought they were that funny.

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I don't even think Animal House,

ooh, I know, don't say it, Ryan.

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I don't think Animal House is

as funny as people think it is.

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I'm not, I was never, I never

thought it was that kind of funny.

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I thought those were funny.

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I,

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Katie: I,

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would categorize those as 2 different

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genres.

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I think revenge raunchy

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comedy

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Ryan Rebalkin: that's what it is.

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It's just not.

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Look, we're looking at a girl in a bra.

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Ha ha ha ha ha.

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I gotta

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Katie: but that was a lot in the 80s.

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There was a lot of

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Ryan Rebalkin: while they resurged

it with the American Pie films,

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and I mean, I watched them because

it was like that resurgence.

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I just, I guess, maybe I'm a prude,

but I, which I'm really not, but

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sex, sex humor though, it's funny.

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It's just where the whole

premise is we have to get laid.

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It gets

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Katie: it's beneath you

because you are a film.

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No, I mean, truly because you

are a film connoisseur, you're

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like, yeah, yeah, that's okay.

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know,

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but I would

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Ryan Rebalkin: romance in the storm

or storm still rematch the stone more

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terminator like Or of course the original

vacation films those types of films.

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I just like that kind of humor better.

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That's all.

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Katie: Oddly enough, I do I mean, in

rewatching Revenge of the Nerds now, your

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mind will be blown at how inappropriate a

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, I love that.

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I love that.

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Katie: meaning.

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No there's literally

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a rape scene,

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh,

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Katie: but it was funny and,

you know, like that, you

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know, like that kind of stuff.

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You're like, oh, shit

when you watch it now.

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I remember thinking it was

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funny.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh Sure, it's

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Revenge of the

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nerds.

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don't.

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Ryan Rebalkin: to laugh at.

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Isn't it?

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Oh my God.

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Let's do one more.

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Ryan.

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Ryan Rebalkin: then is weird.

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It's weird and I'm glad we've changed

as a culture, but it's weird how we made

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that a bit of a comedy thing, you know,

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watching girls.

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Yeah.

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Just actually Just watching girls

change without their knowledge is

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actually, you shouldn't do that.

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That's actually a crime.

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Katie: Yeah.

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how funny is that?

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There's a people in the locker room.

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Ryan Rebalkin: It's people.

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Porkies.

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Katie: Ryan.

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Do you think, I

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Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, sure.

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Sure.

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This is fine.

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I, I could play every one of these.

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I think this is great.

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I just, I'm just not as

good as I had hoped I'd be.

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Katie: Ooh, that's on the line.

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It's back in the headlines.

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You

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guys, let's see I'll give you a couple

because some of them are pretty easy in

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1985, who became the general secretary of

the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Was that Gorbachev?

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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Mikhail

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Gorbachev.

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Good.

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Good job.

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Let's do maybe one more.

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In 1985, which criminal known for

a string of terrorizing crimes in

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California was finally apprehended

after eluding authorities for months?

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Ryan Rebalkin: that the Summer of Sam?

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Katie: No.

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You have another guess?

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh!

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Katie: California.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, I.

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I'm actually, I do enjoy true crime too.

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I know what you're

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going to say.

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And I'll be, I'll be

like, Oh yes, of course.

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Just again, just like there's so many

teen comedy films in the eighties.

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There's so many

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serial

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Katie: to pull them out of

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Ryan Rebalkin: I know, like, I know it

was all the stories, but the timelines I'm

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like, I know he entered people I think he

went into someone's garage at one point.

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What was this guy's

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Katie: Yeah.

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The

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community helped a lot.

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Helped capture him Richard Ramirez.

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Ryan Rebalkin: that's right.

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That's right.

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He was scary looking.

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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hmm.

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Ryan Rebalkin: say I even

know what he looks like that.

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I just forgot the year.

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Yeah interesting.

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Wow.

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Yeah scary He was a scary guy.

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He's one of the scary ones

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Katie: He yeah Mm hmm.

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mean as serial

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Ryan Rebalkin: I know they're all scared.

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No, but I mean even ted

bundy isn't scary like you

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Katie: he looks like a normal

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Ryan Rebalkin: yeah,

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That's what the in a way that's almost

more scary because he just blends in

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but Yeah, Ramirez looks like a killer.

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He just looks like, yeah, I kill people.

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Sure you do.

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I bet you

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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All right, Ryan What do you think

about the new segment and format?

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Ryan Rebalkin: Well, I could

play the whole episode like this.

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I

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mean, I love trivia.

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I love, I'm not very good at what I

know what I know, and I know what I

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don't know, but I mean, I, I pride

myself a little bit when it comes to

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this timeline of stuff and movies, and

I do fairly well, like I do fairly okay.

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But I love it.

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I, I think it's a great segment and I

can't wait to play at home myself and

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then yell at the other hosts who are on

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the spot and say, I know so

much more than they do, so,

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Katie: I will say it requires a lot

more research on my end to have 12

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questions ready for 12 segments.

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But But, anyway, you guys at

home, let me know what you think.

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Do you like the trivia version?

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Do you like the wheel spinning?

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Let me know.

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Okay, Ryan, we're gonna be talking

about The Breakfast Club today.

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1985, February 40th anniversary.

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But

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Ryan Rebalkin: 40 years.

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Katie: how did you first

discover John Hughes films?

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Do you, do you have

any history with him or

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what do you

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Ryan Rebalkin: Just natural history.

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I was like, like I said, I was

born in 75 and so I was of the age.

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I saw the films, not knowing John Hughes

per se, because even when I was young,

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I kind of knew Oh, Steven Spielberg.

504

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I think I've heard of him, but I saw all

the films that these guys did, you know?

505

:

So it wasn't until I got a

little bit older, my teens

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would be kind of more of that.

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Like you said, I've always, I've

watched movies my whole life.

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I have, I've, I've devoured movies

and, but when I became a young teen

509

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and started like actually like getting

film almanac type books while before

510

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Wikipedia and for the internet, I would

get the yearly, I forget what their

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calls like a Roger Debert had one.

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Katie: Oh, cool.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, there's like these

in their film review books, I would

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buy them yearly and it have the actors

in the back and tell you every movie

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:

they're in or what page number was on.

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And so I look up, you know, Oh,

Tom Cruise was in this film.

517

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I didn't know that.

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I would go to the movie store to rent.

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That was your IMDb.

520

:

There you go.

521

:

That was your IMDb back in the

day was these big books you would

522

:

buy to find what, what movies

your favorite actress had been in.

523

:

There's different different brands,

but the idea I bought them every

524

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year for a few years and also was a

Subscriber to entertainment weekly.

525

:

I I'm a young teen and I actually got

my own subscription to that magazine.

526

:

So I was a huge movie nut This

527

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is all again old pre internet.

528

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This is how you got your hey kids.

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This is how we did it back

in the day It's all on paper.

530

:

That's how we got our information was on

paper And I used to watch entertainment

531

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tonight on tv i'd watch cisco and ebert

of course every every weekend Okay, I

532

:

sailed that so regarding john hughes.

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I was younger.

534

:

So i'd watched all the films,

you know that You Well, sorry,

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:

the big ones on your list that

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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:

Ryan Rebalkin: there was a couple

that you sent me to choose from.

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:

I never even heard of that film.

539

:

So

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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Ryan Rebalkin: filmography is

much bigger than I ever would have

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:

thought without looking into it.

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:

So yes, Breakfast Club, 16

Candles, Pretty in Pink.

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I saw those, you know, as a young kid,

you know, of course, Molly Ringwald

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was like every young boy's crush,

you know, she was like cutie patootie

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that we we enjoyed as, as young men.

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So, yeah, I saw them.

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Oh, Uncle Buck, all that stuff for sure.

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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:

Nice.

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:

All right.

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:

Well, let's get into the

movie, The Breakfast Club.

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40th anniversary, you guys.

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How does, how does that

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grab you?

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February 15th, 1985.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Wow.

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Katie: Now, I did find

something interesting

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about this.

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Ryan Rebalkin: Mhm.

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Katie: John Hughes actually wrote

the Breakfast Club that came

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out in 1985 before he wrote 16

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Candles that came out in 84.

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But the studio was concerned

that the Breakfast Club would

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be, you know, that it's a drama.

566

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It's completely filmed in

house featuring just talking.

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So they wanted him to do

something more tried and true.

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So they wanted

569

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So, something along the lines of

National Lampoon's Animal House.

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So he wrote 16 Candles and ironically,

16 Candles wasn't as successful.

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Both commercially and critically

and the Breakfast Club was

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a hit as we will get into.

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So I

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Ryan Rebalkin: Okay.

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I'll tag that it is interested, but I

got a couple of theories or reasons.

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So this is

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Katie: Okay.

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Ryan Rebalkin: that you bring this

up because 16 Candles, it was a

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little bit more, maybe had a little

bit more of that, ooh, humor that

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studios in the eighties were looking

for because I know Breakfast Club.

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That's the one thing they

didn't like about it.

582

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Not just what you just said

there, but there wasn't enough

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boobs and things like that.

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:

Well, that was the big

thing about the eighties.

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Oh, like flashing scenes, a girl,

topless girls running around

586

:

and it just goes to show you.

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I'm not going to say look at me

being like, you're talking about

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being a bit of a film connoisseur.

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The public does agree with me this film

Over time has shown you that people

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are talking about breakfast club in the

in a reverent manner So to speak over

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:

the decades more than they are about

nerds I think people think revenge of

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the nerds is a better film than it is.

593

:

That's when objectively you

can't say You know what?

594

:

I mean?

595

:

Like it's

596

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it's just it doesn't it didn't it

influenced a lot of other garbage kind

597

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of raunchy teen comedies Nothing, nothing

really Objectively film quality good

598

:

came out of that string of genre films.

599

:

I P I know people got a kick out of it.

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:

I just say all of that because.

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Yeah, well, I mean, we'll get

into the cover of the film.

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I just really appreciate this film

for that reason that it came out in

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a time where John Hughes said, Hey, I

understand the studios were saying, this

604

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is what you think the box office wants

or whatever it is, what people want.

605

:

And it just kind of goes to show you

that maybe that wasn't always the case.

606

:

There wasn't, there was

an audience as well.

607

:

Maybe.

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As well, there was an audience

that wanted this type of film.

609

:

Cause this is a film you can watch 40

years later and with your kids today.

610

:

I, yeah, this is a film of, I'd be

very, yeah, a couple of curse words.

611

:

Who cares?

612

:

We swear in our home.

613

:

So it's just a, yeah, this is

a, this is a very good film.

614

:

And I appreciate that John made this film.

615

:

Katie: I agree.

616

:

It's your point.

617

:

It is rated R, which is the only 1

of that 1st trilogy of teen films of

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his which is interesting because

there's not nudity in this 16 candles

619

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actually had nudity and implied

rape in it and it was only rated P.

620

:

G.

621

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And this is our,

622

:

Ryan Rebalkin: More, rape.

623

:

Hey, I

624

:

Katie: yeah, it was a

whole thing in the 80s.

625

:

Now, interestingly enough,

626

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Ryan Rebalkin: a long time.

627

:

I that's why the pretty

in pink, 16 candles.

628

:

It's probably been since the eighties.

629

:

I've seen those films just

630

:

Katie: well, it's implied they

don't show anything, but yeah.

631

:

And then this movie, there were

things that were originally either

632

:

planned or filmed that were taken out.

633

:

For example, there was nudity, there was

a gym teacher that they were going to show

634

:

nude and they took it out.

635

:

You know, things like that.

636

:

So that I found that interesting.

637

:

It does have a 7.

638

:

8 on IMDb, which wholeheartedly agree.

639

:

This is an excellent film.

640

:

There's only a handful of movies

that we're going to talk about on

641

:

this season where John both directed

and wrote and this is 1 of them.

642

:

He was the director and the writer.

643

:

Did you see that this is 1 of those

stories and I believe it, but you

644

:

know how a lot of times they're

like, oh, like the Rocky story.

645

:

He wrote it in 1 day

646

:

or something.

647

:

Apparently John Hughes did write

this screenplay in 2 days over

648

:

the July 4th weekend in 1982.

649

:

Ryan Rebalkin: I believe it, but like

all films, there's on the set revisions.

650

:

There's just, there's no

651

:

way what we saw on the screen.

652

:

But yes, I would say 60 to, I'll even say

maybe 80 percent of the film was written.

653

:

I, somebody like John Hughes, who's a

writer, storyteller, they just get it.

654

:

They get it out.

655

:

People are like that.

656

:

They just get it out of their system.

657

:

But as the.

658

:

As a production gets greenlit and

goes on and there, because I know

659

:

things were changed on the fly.

660

:

I mean, there was on the

fly stuff that happened

661

:

Katie: Mm hmm.

662

:

Ryan Rebalkin: that was not in the script.

663

:

What do you call it?

664

:

Improv in the, in the film itself.

665

:

So yeah.

666

:

Katie: Well, I probably don't need

to this is probably like the movie.

667

:

I don't need to read a description for

because I assume everybody has seen this

668

:

multiple times, but if it's been 40 years

669

:

for you, or in case you haven't seen it.

670

:

The breakfast club follows 5 high

school students from different clicks.

671

:

Claire, the princess, Andrew, the athlete

vendor, the criminal Brian, the brain and

672

:

Allison, the basket case, who are forced

to spend a Saturday in detention together.

673

:

Initially, they clash due to their social

differences, but as the day progresses,

674

:

they open up about their struggles.

675

:

insecurities, and pressures

from parents and peers.

676

:

Through deep conversations and

shared experiences, they form an

677

:

unexpected bond, realizing that they

are more alike than they thought.

678

:

By the end of the day, they leave

detention changed, unsure if

679

:

their newfound connection will

survive outside the school walls.

680

:

Okay.

681

:

Mm hmm.

682

:

Ryan Rebalkin: Can I, can

I pat myself on the back?

683

:

I rarely brag, but I like

to brag every now and then.

684

:

I haven't seen this movie in a while.

685

:

So it's been, I don't know.

686

:

Like, I don't, I don't re watch

a lot of films in general.

687

:

Just, I just don't have time.

688

:

Especially as my life has gone

on, and my family's gone bigger,

689

:

and my job, and the military.

690

:

So it's hard for me, when I have free

time, I try to just watch something new,

691

:

because I like to watch something new.

692

:

But, it's been a while.

693

:

And as I was watching the film and

watching the characters talk and

694

:

everything, it dawned on me when I, of

course, but I mean, it's obvious, but

695

:

at the same time, what I liked about it

is what I should say is that it brought

696

:

me back to being a teenager myself.

697

:

I'll get to that because I think this is

what everyone does when they watch the

698

:

film, they, they go back to their selves.

699

:

How, who were you, where did you identify

within this group of, you know, they ask

700

:

their caricatures and it's very, you know,

very cut and dry what each of these people

701

:

represent in high school personalities

or, or groups of social groups.

702

:

But I was the essay.

703

:

Meaning at the end of the film when they

have the essay and it's basically says

704

:

oh, we're everybody We're all the same.

705

:

We're all parts of each

other that that was me.

706

:

That was actually me in high school I

was the I was a bit of a nerd but I also

707

:

dress preppy But I was also playing rugby.

708

:

I also listen to heavy metal and rock

and roll So I fit all these categories

709

:

of P I did all those things and I was

the guy that Your individual that was

710

:

able to associate with all those groups

is just skaters the punks the jocks the

711

:

nerds But Ryan himself, I I was able

to hang out talk to all those groups.

712

:

I don't know why but So I

was the essay at the end.

713

:

I just always lived that way.

714

:

I'd never had an identity

because I just enjoyed whatever.

715

:

I enjoyed that sport.

716

:

I enjoyed that kind of music.

717

:

I enjoyed, you know, trying to

do well in school or stay out of

718

:

trouble, that kind of personality.

719

:

I wasn't a bad boy, but like, but

like the Judd Nelson character.

720

:

Yeah.

721

:

I, I liked probably the

music he would listen to.

722

:

So all that kind of stuff.

723

:

I don't know.

724

:

So it just reminded me of

my own childhood and youth.

725

:

Oh yeah, I identify with all these people.

726

:

But then they did too.

727

:

That was the whole message, but

728

:

Katie: It is, and I think that's why

this movie, I mean, there are a number

729

:

of reasons, but I think that's 1 of the

reasons this resonates with people so

730

:

much is because I would argue most people.

731

:

I mean, I think that's to your point.

732

:

That's kind of the point of the movie.

733

:

Most of us, myself,

included you, we identify.

734

:

Very few people are

735

:

just the popular clicky girl.

736

:

Very few people are just the, the

jock, you know, so we all identify.

737

:

Ryan Rebalkin: But talk.

738

:

That was the thing they

would separate themselves.

739

:

Katie: hmm.

740

:

Ryan Rebalkin: And that's what they

found in this situation is, Oh, we're

741

:

forced to get to know each other.

742

:

We find out we're more much the same as

not to get all like hoity toity about

743

:

the world, but isn't that what the

world is kind of like we divide with

744

:

borders and race and creed and sexuality.

745

:

When, when you get down to it, we

probably have a lot more in common.

746

:

Then the perceived differences

if we just sat and had a

747

:

conversation with each other.

748

:

Katie: 100 percent if you.

749

:

Spend time with somebody

who's different from you.

750

:

Granted, these are all white

751

:

kids, but you know,

whatever it is, you other

752

:

different groups, whatever they are,

and , you only find out a lot of times

753

:

people as you, as you grow, as you

mature, you realize, everybody's just

754

:

human.

755

:

And yeah, I, you know,

756

:

there's so many good

757

:

Ryan Rebalkin: with

758

:

Katie: Yeah.

759

:

Ryan Rebalkin: It's okay to be different

but with those differences we can learn

760

:

from each other I think that's the that's

the wonderful message about this film.

761

:

This is why it's a timeless film.

762

:

So yes, it's a teenage Characters in a

high school, but once you get past the,

763

:

the set that they're using and the ages

of the characters, it's actually just

764

:

a universal language and experience.

765

:

Yeah.

766

:

It's yeah.

767

:

Beautifully done.

768

:

It's really kind of amazing that this

was made when it was made, that it can

769

:

be looked at at so many different levels.

770

:

It's, it's actually a much deeper

film that I even remembered it until

771

:

Katie: Mm hmm.

772

:

Very well put Ryan.

773

:

Let's talk about

774

:

our cast and it's very

775

:

small, which is unusual.

776

:

You know, there's really what?

777

:

7 people in

778

:

this.

779

:

That's it.

780

:

Ryan Rebalkin: or less.

781

:

Yeah.

782

:

The kids, the janitor.

783

:

Katie: And the and the

784

:

Ryan Rebalkin: not principal,

785

:

was he the principal

786

:

Katie: Well, we'll, let's,

we'll talk about that.

787

:

We will talk

788

:

about that.

789

:

But I

790

:

think the, so Emilio Estevez

plays the sport, Oh, Andrew Clark.

791

:

And what did you think?

792

:

So in, in me growing up, like our

school didn't have wrestling, but I

793

:

liked, I learned that John Hughes had

originally wrote him as a football

794

:

player, but that was so overused to

the, he made him a wrestler instead.

795

:

I really liked that

796

:

Ryan Rebalkin: love that he

actually used it within the

797

:

film when he takes on the bully.

798

:

I love that this this wrestler

in and of course, I'm, sorry.

799

:

I already forgot the character's name.

800

:

So I apologize.

801

:

Judd and Allison played

the character's name was

802

:

Katie: John Bender.

803

:

Ryan Rebalkin: So, but we'll

just use the actor's name.

804

:

It's so when, when Emilio and Judd

face off with each other to have an

805

:

actual physical altercation, I was

actually, what I liked about it, how

806

:

realistic it was, like, yeah, this

guy's actually a trained grappler.

807

:

So if you want to, even though he's

shorter, maybe a little bit smaller

808

:

in stature, but if this guy grapples

with you and he's trained to do it,

809

:

And he took him down really quickly.

810

:

And he said, like, is this what you want?

811

:

I can keep, I will humiliate you all day.

812

:

But then of course, his character

draws the knife and Emilio's like,

813

:

Oh, well, that's where you're going.

814

:

That's wholly different levels.

815

:

So I like those really real moments of

these, that dangerous feeling in that,

816

:

you know, Oh, he's drawing a knife.

817

:

He's literally bringing a

knife to a wrestling fight.

818

:

It's like, well, now I can't do that.

819

:

You know, but it was thought of great

little moments like that, which are

820

:

again, just fantastic real life.

821

:

Situation with two guys fighting

and the one guy gets humiliated.

822

:

So it goes, yeah, I'm going to now

draw a gun on a knife fight type thing.

823

:

It's like, Ooh, okay, well now

there's a whole different level of

824

:

Katie: And the way that he,

they layered humor on top of

825

:

those situations.

826

:

He, you know, the way he's, you know, the

tough guy, what Bender says, you know,

827

:

I don't want to go there with you, man.

828

:

Cause I'd kill you.

829

:

Then he puts the knife in the

table and Allison, just like off

830

:

screen, we see her pull it out.

831

:

It's just they layer

832

:

Ryan Rebalkin: we never

re investigate that.

833

:

We never, like she takes the knife.

834

:

Is it ever does he ever

realize his knife is gone or?

835

:

Katie: I don't know if it was in

her bag later when she empties

836

:

her bag, but

837

:

you're right.

838

:

Ryan Rebalkin: I wonder

if that was even scripted.

839

:

That's the other thing.

840

:

I was at an improv rally.

841

:

She needed just to take

the knife out of the

842

:

Katie: could have been as to

your point, Ryan, there was a

843

:

ton.

844

:

So John Hughes let these

guys, his, his actors, you

845

:

know, ad lib and a ton of

that made it into the movie.

846

:

Ryan Rebalkin: I think it was them

fooling around I think she just took

847

:

the knife and John's like that I like

that and just don't re explore where

848

:

the knife is just it is what it is Yeah,

849

:

Katie: Well, that's our

second person is John Bender.

850

:

He's the criminal.

851

:

He's played by Judd Nelson.

852

:

I did read that his clothes,

his outfit in the movie is what

853

:

he wore when he auditioned.

854

:

Ryan Rebalkin: now you

probably gonna talk about it.

855

:

Did you read about him and mr.

856

:

Hughes?

857

:

Katie: I did,

858

:

yes.

859

:

Tell Yeah.

860

:

Have at it

861

:

Ryan Rebalkin: well, I didn't know

about this if I knew about it.

862

:

I'd forgotten I Wow.

863

:

Talk about one of the biggest

Hollywood riffs in history.

864

:

So on the set, Judd,

who was 24 at the time,

865

:

Katie: 25.

866

:

Ryan Rebalkin: 25.

867

:

Okay.

868

:

25 at the time,

869

:

give or take.

870

:

Yeah.

871

:

So 24 and he, and Molly Ringwald was only,

she was younger than I thought she was.

872

:

She was, she was only 16.

873

:

So she couldn't even work full days.

874

:

So there was some like behind

the headshots was her stand in.

875

:

Uh, Cause she had to go to school.

876

:

So.

877

:

Molly was 16, you know,

legally a minor and Judd would

878

:

mistreat her in character off.

879

:

Like when they're not filming, he

would stay in character and kind

880

:

of still kind of be a dick towards

Molly and, and John Hughes is very

881

:

protective of Molly Ringwald as an older

gentleman and like this young teenager.

882

:

And he, as a muse in a way,

wanted Molly to be protected.

883

:

So he felt very protective of her.

884

:

So he told Judd Hey, come on.

885

:

Cool your heels, man.

886

:

Like you don't have to be this way,

just like I'm going to be this way.

887

:

And it took the actor who played the

principal to convince John to keep Judd

888

:

around despite, you know, the behavior

and as years went on though, but

889

:

sorry, John was so still put off by it.

890

:

He allowed the film to finish, but he

hated the whole experience with Judd.

891

:

He never worked with Judd again.

892

:

And like they never reconciled ever.

893

:

I

894

:

Katie: accurate.

895

:

Ryan Rebalkin: but what, what?

896

:

I, so I guess, I don't know if this

shows more of the character of John.

897

:

Like I find his, the more I read about

John and some of his, we'll get to

898

:

Molly and his treatment with her too.

899

:

Yeah.

900

:

Katie: And Michael, Mike,

Anthony, Michael Hall too.

901

:

Like those two,

902

:

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, I missed that one.

903

:

So you tell me to tell me about that one.

904

:

I didn't read about that one.

905

:

So I'm, is John the problem?

906

:

bit,

907

:

Katie: I mean, he was young.

908

:

He was like 30

909

:

ish.

910

:

Ryan Rebalkin: but,

but years go on though.

911

:

I admit I

912

:

made choices.

913

:

What

914

:

I made choices when I was young that

I would not do today, of course.

915

:

But if I ever saw so and so

and I'd be like, Oh, I'm sorry.

916

:

And I've done that actually.

917

:

Like I was young and stupid

and I don't feel that way now.

918

:

Right.

919

:

And this I'm just surprised after decades.

920

:

There was no man.

921

:

We're just young and there's

a crazy moment or like you

922

:

were young like judgling 24.

923

:

It's that's young I

thought I knew everything.

924

:

I didn't know anything

at 24 compared to now.

925

:

So Yeah, it's weird that they

never reconciled they held

926

:

Katie: Both a bit of an ego probably.

927

:

And I mean, it's, you know, like

we were talking offline, sometimes

928

:

people just rub you the wrong

929

:

way.

930

:

And he was like, I, I just have

no desire to work with him again.

931

:

But you're right.

932

:

I think it Judd's.

933

:

Character John Bender, as we'll talk

about, there are so many classic

934

:

memorable lines and one liners and the

dialogue and this is just excellent.

935

:

But half, I would say 75 percent of

what made me laugh was Bender's lines.

936

:

Like Judd was really good as

937

:

Bender.

938

:

So

939

:

Ryan Rebalkin: Okay, so you

know what's interesting here?

940

:

This is gonna be a hot take

This is gonna be a hot take I

941

:

enjoyed his performance the least

942

:

Katie: interesting.

943

:

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, and it's weird.

944

:

I don't know.

945

:

It's because you can say, Oh, right.

946

:

He's playing his character so well.

947

:

I'm like, yeah, yeah, but I've seen

movies with jerks and bullies and stuff.

948

:

I get it.

949

:

One of the people that was almost

almost cast like if Judd didn't

950

:

exist as an entity, if his if

his if he just never existed.

951

:

John Cusack was scheduled to play

952

:

Katie: Mm hmm.

953

:

Ryan Rebalkin: I really like John.

954

:

And I think he would have done

a great job and Nicolas Cage was

955

:

actually scheduled to do it as well.

956

:

There's talks that he would

have done a great job.

957

:

Nicolas Cage, I think Nicolas Cage is

another good example of somebody who

958

:

could have done that role of a bit

of a, but the lovable, the lovable

959

:

troubled at the same time that you

can get, I never got behind him.

960

:

I just thought, Oh man,

you're just irritating.

961

:

I found him irritating, not enjoyable at

962

:

Katie: Well, he's supposed

963

:

to be.

964

:

Ryan Rebalkin: But it's hard to explain.

965

:

I know, but I, I think

it was his performance.

966

:

I think it was honestly, objectively.

967

:

I think it was Judd's performance.

968

:

I, I think the dialogue was great.

969

:

I think the story arc was fine.

970

:

That's all John's writing.

971

:

Maybe I'm team John a little bit.

972

:

Maybe he just,

973

:

maybe he kind of saw I don't know.

974

:

I think John Cusack

would have been a better.

975

:

Katie: Well, I mean, you're

976

:

entitled to feel that way.

977

:

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh yeah.

978

:

Katie: guess.

979

:

Yeah.

980

:

there are things that

each one of them does that

981

:

kind of like the actors, they're

young, like they either overdid

982

:

it or weren't that great,

983

:

but the dialogue that was

written for them was excellent.

984

:

I do very much, I think Judd

Nelson emulates that tough guy.

985

:

I mean, he's like a grown ass

man too, though, like who's

986

:

buying him as a teenager,

987

:

but

988

:

Ryan Rebalkin: But you

989

:

Katie: I hate Nicholas K.

990

:

I don't like Nicolas Cage at all.

991

:

Like I hate him.

992

:

So I, he would have

993

:

turned me off from this

994

:

Ryan Rebalkin: Okay.

995

:

So can we meet,

996

:

Katie: Cusack's not tough enough.

997

:

John

998

:

Ryan Rebalkin: Uh, well, but that, I would

say give him a chance to do the role.

999

:

Maybe he would have,

:

00:37:22,218 --> 00:37:23,258

Katie: Yeah, that's

:

00:37:23,278 --> 00:37:24,188

Ryan Rebalkin: cause he's a good actor.

:

00:37:24,198 --> 00:37:26,708

Cause he's a good, he's just,

there's generally a tough guy.

:

00:37:26,708 --> 00:37:27,448

He's just acting.

:

00:37:27,448 --> 00:37:27,718

Right.

:

00:37:27,928 --> 00:37:28,298

So

:

00:37:28,328 --> 00:37:30,478

Judd's delivery.

:

00:37:32,008 --> 00:37:35,218

The thing about him as an actor is bad,

I just found his delivery, you're talking

:

00:37:35,218 --> 00:37:38,738

about that over the top, I found that

was the majority of his character, was

:

00:37:38,878 --> 00:37:42,778

Katie: Some of it, I guess

I meant like the lines, most

:

00:37:42,778 --> 00:37:44,638

of the funny lines were his

:

00:37:44,638 --> 00:37:46,258

lines and he

:

00:37:46,288 --> 00:37:46,458

Ryan Rebalkin: he

:

00:37:46,458 --> 00:37:48,618

got a lot, he got a lot, of

:

00:37:48,668 --> 00:37:49,908

Katie: like funny one liners.

:

00:37:51,073 --> 00:37:52,133

He was good at that.

:

00:37:53,578 --> 00:37:56,288

Ryan Rebalkin: as far as, maybe, maybe

there's more Judd than I remembered,

:

00:37:56,288 --> 00:37:57,328

I was like, oh, there's a lot of Judd.

:

00:37:58,763 --> 00:38:02,983

Katie: There is, he's, he was

really good at delivering the humor.

:

00:38:02,993 --> 00:38:05,943

And I think maybe, you know, when he was

trying to be more serious, maybe it was.

:

00:38:06,443 --> 00:38:06,693

Maybe

:

00:38:06,693 --> 00:38:07,143

over John,

:

00:38:07,163 --> 00:38:09,163

Ryan Rebalkin: the scene where

he's talking about, okay.

:

00:38:09,163 --> 00:38:13,573

There's a couple of scenes that I didn't

maybe that really was off putting and

:

00:38:13,573 --> 00:38:16,623

maybe it's a bit of combination of

the writing and the delivery was when

:

00:38:16,623 --> 00:38:19,823

he's talking about his home life and

he's acting this father's part, his

:

00:38:19,823 --> 00:38:22,903

mother's part and his part reacting

the whole like abuse in his home.

:

00:38:23,733 --> 00:38:27,463

I was like, okay, this is dragging

on, you know, the whole argument and

:

00:38:27,463 --> 00:38:31,676

you know, Hey dad, and he's doing

the voices for his dad, his mom and

:

00:38:31,676 --> 00:38:33,408

himself and these reenacting this.

:

00:38:33,708 --> 00:38:36,038

Maybe this abuse that

took place in his home.

:

00:38:36,038 --> 00:38:39,178

We're not too, too sure if it's because

of meals did that really happen?

:

00:38:39,698 --> 00:38:42,058

But the point is, it's I found

the delivery a little bit.

:

00:38:42,058 --> 00:38:44,558

If I was actually watching this in

the library, like I think this guy's

:

00:38:44,558 --> 00:38:49,578

off his meds, like it was a little

bit, I don't know, I think it would

:

00:38:49,578 --> 00:38:55,468

have been better delivered had it

been a toned down recollection, not a.

:

00:38:55,893 --> 00:38:59,513

Over the top animated like I'm talking

about something serious and violent,

:

00:38:59,523 --> 00:39:03,063

but I'm being so kind of silly about it

that it I don't know I think it would

:

00:39:03,063 --> 00:39:06,973

have been a better direction would have

been to tell the story But to keep it

:

00:39:06,973 --> 00:39:08,403

like you had this did like I don't know.

:

00:39:08,503 --> 00:39:10,973

Anyways, I found that part

off putting for some reason.

:

00:39:11,593 --> 00:39:12,283

Katie: interesting.

:

00:39:12,303 --> 00:39:13,553

I mean, I can see your point.

:

00:39:14,313 --> 00:39:18,143

I think at that point in the movie, we're

still easing into the these characters.

:

00:39:18,153 --> 00:39:23,753

And I think it was purposeful that

he was so animated, because that's

:

00:39:23,753 --> 00:39:26,953

what made the, because they showed

everybody else's reaction to it.

:

00:39:26,953 --> 00:39:28,183

And they're like, holy shit.

:

00:39:28,578 --> 00:39:31,968

You know, and then Claire tells

Andrew, you shouldn't have said that.

:

00:39:31,978 --> 00:39:33,778

And he's like, how did I, how

was I supposed to know this

:

00:39:33,778 --> 00:39:37,518

guy was so, you know, and the

meds, I mean, he probably was

:

00:39:37,858 --> 00:39:39,158

needed medication and

:

00:39:39,288 --> 00:39:39,928

was never.

:

00:39:40,458 --> 00:39:40,728

Yeah.

:

00:39:40,978 --> 00:39:43,048

Ryan Rebalkin: And so let's say

we'll get mad at me because I know

:

00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:46,558

I always say things that are usually

not what everyone thinks, but I

:

00:39:46,868 --> 00:39:48,248

Katie: No, that's the whole point.

:

00:39:48,248 --> 00:39:48,925

Right.

:

00:39:49,018 --> 00:39:49,728

Ryan Rebalkin: just how I felt.

:

00:39:49,738 --> 00:39:52,568

I'm not trying to cater to

the audience, but however.

:

00:39:53,598 --> 00:39:57,618

That's a, that's probably my only

criticism really, is I felt he was,

:

00:39:57,888 --> 00:39:59,538

like I said, I enjoyed him the least.

:

00:39:59,538 --> 00:40:00,858

Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy him at all.

:

00:40:01,278 --> 00:40:06,198

That's why I worded, I enjoyed if I was

to rank the performances objectively,

:

00:40:07,008 --> 00:40:09,048

he had a lot of the film to carry.

:

00:40:09,318 --> 00:40:13,008

And when I read the other casting choices

my brain went to, Ooh, the Alternate

:

00:40:13,008 --> 00:40:15,948

Universe with oh, I kind of think I would

like to have seen John in that role more.

:

00:40:15,948 --> 00:40:17,088

And then I couldn't get it out of it.

:

00:40:17,088 --> 00:40:17,688

I couldn't get out of

:

00:40:17,728 --> 00:40:18,348

Katie: Hmm.

:

00:40:18,398 --> 00:40:19,278

That's interesting.

:

00:40:19,318 --> 00:40:19,768

Okay.

:

00:40:20,818 --> 00:40:21,473

All right.

:

00:40:21,743 --> 00:40:23,053

Ryan Rebalkin: nobody else

I would want to recast.

:

00:40:23,073 --> 00:40:24,773

I think everyone else is perfectly cast.

:

00:40:24,793 --> 00:40:28,353

I'm gonna get hate for that I know

Judd was beloved with that character I

:

00:40:28,353 --> 00:40:31,713

understand he had the iconic moment at

the end that was improv all that stuff.

:

00:40:31,713 --> 00:40:32,243

I get it.

:

00:40:32,243 --> 00:40:33,063

It's fantastic.

:

00:40:33,063 --> 00:40:33,593

But yeah,

:

00:40:35,123 --> 00:40:38,193

Katie: We will talk more about some

of the casting what ifs a little

:

00:40:38,193 --> 00:40:41,623

bit later, but just to

finalize the main cast here.

:

00:40:41,623 --> 00:40:44,323

So Molly Ringwald as Claire Standish.

:

00:40:45,353 --> 00:40:46,463

I didn't know she had a last

:

00:40:46,463 --> 00:40:46,833

name.

:

00:40:46,883 --> 00:40:48,663

I don't think it's ever said, but

:

00:40:49,553 --> 00:40:58,303

Claire Standish and Allie Sheedy playing

Alison Reynolds and then Anthony Michael

:

00:40:58,303 --> 00:41:02,253

Hall playing the nerd Brian Johnson.

:

00:41:02,673 --> 00:41:04,613

Now, those are our 5 students.

:

00:41:05,808 --> 00:41:09,358

All 5 students were members of the Brat

:

00:41:09,358 --> 00:41:09,968

Pack

:

00:41:10,473 --> 00:41:11,163

Ryan Rebalkin: Yay

:

00:41:11,248 --> 00:41:14,518

Katie: apparently, you hear

about this, you guys, right?

:

00:41:14,528 --> 00:41:15,498

The Brat Pack.

:

00:41:15,528 --> 00:41:16,768

What is it?

:

00:41:16,768 --> 00:41:18,098

Where did it come from?

:

00:41:19,378 --> 00:41:24,148

Technically an appearance in either

the Breakfast Club and or St.

:

00:41:24,148 --> 00:41:28,018

Elmo's Fire is often considered

the prerequisites for being

:

00:41:28,038 --> 00:41:30,728

a core Brat Pack member.

:

00:41:31,408 --> 00:41:36,428

And there was an article written

um, David Bloom's New York

:

00:41:36,428 --> 00:41:40,458

story identified Emilio Estevez.

:

00:41:41,183 --> 00:41:44,413

As the unofficial

president of the Brat Pack

:

00:41:46,063 --> 00:41:48,833

because there was a, that he met

up with him and they were telling

:

00:41:48,833 --> 00:41:50,063

stories or something like that.

:

00:41:50,123 --> 00:41:51,373

The article was written.

:

00:41:51,703 --> 00:41:55,583

Originally, it was just going to

be about Emilio and then they got

:

00:41:55,583 --> 00:41:59,433

started talking and I think maybe he

Judd came and they got to talking.

:

00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:04,183

And so David Bloom decided to change

the content of his story about

:

00:42:04,183 --> 00:42:07,263

these, these young Hollywood actors.

:

00:42:07,273 --> 00:42:08,983

So, yeah, I know you like

:

00:42:08,993 --> 00:42:09,823

Emilio, don't you?

:

00:42:09,983 --> 00:42:10,623

Young Guns?

:

00:42:10,813 --> 00:42:11,533

Ryan Rebalkin: yeah, yeah.

:

00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:11,863

Okay.

:

00:42:11,953 --> 00:42:13,623

I mean, I I, didn't want to step on you.

:

00:42:13,623 --> 00:42:14,503

This is your show.

:

00:42:14,503 --> 00:42:19,693

I could do a whole, I love, I

mean, I am like a young guns nerd.

:

00:42:19,693 --> 00:42:21,483

There's almost as much

as I am a Rocky nerd.

:

00:42:21,483 --> 00:42:22,313

I kid you not.

:

00:42:22,313 --> 00:42:25,593

I could talk about, I even contemplate,

I talked about doing a Western podcast.

:

00:42:25,593 --> 00:42:27,133

I know I'm still, it's like that.

:

00:42:28,183 --> 00:42:30,703

It's like every director or

creator has that opus they want

:

00:42:30,703 --> 00:42:33,993

to do, but they haven't tackled it

because I love young guns so much.

:

00:42:33,993 --> 00:42:35,023

I want to talk about it.

:

00:42:35,043 --> 00:42:35,723

If that makes sense.

:

00:42:35,773 --> 00:42:36,163

I even

:

00:42:36,163 --> 00:42:36,753

considered.

:

00:42:36,978 --> 00:42:40,968

I might just tackle the Young Guns films

a la the way I've done the Rocky films.

:

00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:42,558

I don't, I don't know

if I want to rush it.

:

00:42:42,588 --> 00:42:45,848

I might want to do a scene by scene

discussion of those films, like

:

00:42:45,848 --> 00:42:48,248

an actual breakdown instead of

just saying, that's a good film.

:

00:42:49,128 --> 00:42:50,258

That's how much I love those films.

:

00:42:50,308 --> 00:42:53,828

I might just do a Young Guns one

and a Young Guns two, two season

:

00:42:53,828 --> 00:42:55,548

podcast on the Young Guns franchise.

:

00:42:56,298 --> 00:42:56,538

Katie: Do

:

00:42:56,658 --> 00:42:56,938

Ryan Rebalkin: love it

:

00:42:56,938 --> 00:42:57,418

that much.

:

00:42:57,428 --> 00:42:57,848

Yeah.

:

00:42:58,558 --> 00:43:01,338

And I could do other Western films,

but there's like, I love the Western

:

00:43:01,338 --> 00:43:04,498

genre, but there's so many, you

could do that podcast for 10 years.

:

00:43:04,508 --> 00:43:06,958

So I might think, Oh, should I

just hyper focus it on the films?

:

00:43:06,958 --> 00:43:11,128

I just, you know, five films maybe that I

really like and make it five seasons long.

:

00:43:11,128 --> 00:43:15,378

So young guns, one and two unforgiving

tombstone just off the top of my head.

:

00:43:15,378 --> 00:43:15,978

Something like that.

:

00:43:15,978 --> 00:43:16,348

Like just.

:

00:43:17,183 --> 00:43:20,433

The, the big, the, the five opus or

with the Mount Rushmore films in my

:

00:43:20,433 --> 00:43:25,073

books that are Westerns anyways, the

point is, yes, so I'm a young guns nerd.

:

00:43:25,083 --> 00:43:27,763

And because that I have this great

affinity and love for Emilio, and

:

00:43:27,763 --> 00:43:31,763

I know you could argue again, the

Emilio's young guns films are like his.

:

00:43:32,088 --> 00:43:35,408

In many people's books, those were

his Rocky films and that this is his

:

00:43:35,448 --> 00:43:38,768

peak character and performance, which,

which they are, but it was interesting

:

00:43:38,768 --> 00:43:41,198

watching the breakfast club, which came

out two years before young guns, one,

:

00:43:41,218 --> 00:43:47,018

two to three years before seeing some

of his mannerisms and the way he wasn't

:

00:43:47,038 --> 00:43:50,548

talking that he really accentuated

in those films is Billy the kid.

:

00:43:50,798 --> 00:43:52,133

So it's kind of cool to see this.

:

00:43:52,613 --> 00:43:54,513

Take off the the cowboy

gear and all this stuff.

:

00:43:54,543 --> 00:43:57,583

And of course it's just the way

Emilio annunciates his word and talks.

:

00:43:57,583 --> 00:43:59,203

He's got a really great delivery style.

:

00:43:59,213 --> 00:44:00,473

I really liked the way he talks.

:

00:44:00,493 --> 00:44:03,453

I just liked the way he annunciates

words and his eyes and the

:

00:44:03,463 --> 00:44:04,803

intensity that he can have.

:

00:44:04,843 --> 00:44:06,563

And yeah, he's, I just like him.

:

00:44:06,563 --> 00:44:07,353

I think he's great.

:

00:44:07,383 --> 00:44:09,313

And yeah, I know he's kind

of quiet in Hollywood.

:

00:44:09,333 --> 00:44:11,403

He directs more now than ever, but I've

:

00:44:11,403 --> 00:44:11,593

always

:

00:44:11,593 --> 00:44:12,213

enjoyed him.

:

00:44:12,388 --> 00:44:12,898

Katie: I like it.

:

00:44:12,908 --> 00:44:13,728

I like a quiet

:

00:44:13,728 --> 00:44:14,248

Hollywood.

:

00:44:14,278 --> 00:44:14,798

I mean, just

:

00:44:15,128 --> 00:44:16,578

stay out of trouble Yeah.

:

00:44:16,688 --> 00:44:17,108

I like

:

00:44:17,283 --> 00:44:17,363

Ryan Rebalkin: though.

:

00:44:17,363 --> 00:44:18,863

As far as I know, he stays out of trouble.

:

00:44:18,893 --> 00:44:19,973

He's, I think he dated.

:

00:44:19,973 --> 00:44:21,513

Yeah, he dated to me more for a bit.

:

00:44:21,593 --> 00:44:22,033

That's right.

:

00:44:22,313 --> 00:44:23,213

I believe that was true.

:

00:44:23,568 --> 00:44:24,658

Katie: And Paula Abdul.

:

00:44:25,063 --> 00:44:25,923

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, that's right.

:

00:44:25,983 --> 00:44:26,823

That was a longer one.

:

00:44:26,823 --> 00:44:27,303

Actually.

:

00:44:27,343 --> 00:44:27,363

It

:

00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:28,353

was with her for a while.

:

00:44:28,683 --> 00:44:29,573

Yeah, he's a great guy.

:

00:44:29,583 --> 00:44:30,823

He seems like he seems like a great guy.

:

00:44:30,823 --> 00:44:33,653

I haven't heard anything

scandalous or crazy about him.

:

00:44:34,203 --> 00:44:35,793

Just a normal human, which I like.

:

00:44:36,898 --> 00:44:39,898

Katie: I do, too, which is interesting

because his brother is the exact opposite.

:

00:44:39,898 --> 00:44:43,458

Um,

:

00:44:43,933 --> 00:44:47,103

Ryan Rebalkin: There might be someone

who his brother is Martin, sorry Charlie

:

00:44:47,103 --> 00:44:48,913

Sheen and their dad is Martin Sheen.

:

00:44:49,043 --> 00:44:49,403

So

:

00:44:49,658 --> 00:44:51,288

Katie: Amelia looks so much

:

00:44:51,408 --> 00:44:52,638

like a young Martin.

:

00:44:52,638 --> 00:44:52,703

Mm hmm.

:

00:44:53,048 --> 00:44:54,108

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, More than charlie.

:

00:44:54,438 --> 00:44:56,598

Uh, and I will say this too.

:

00:44:56,738 --> 00:44:59,358

Did you hear about the actor

who played the janitor?

:

00:44:59,738 --> 00:45:00,538

The story there?

:

00:45:01,288 --> 00:45:03,598

Katie: Carl the Janitor,

played by John Capellos.

:

00:45:04,408 --> 00:45:05,158

Is it capelos or

:

00:45:05,158 --> 00:45:05,608

capelos?

:

00:45:05,878 --> 00:45:07,028

Anyway, go on.

:

00:45:07,573 --> 00:45:12,148

Ryan Rebalkin: Well, they were on the

set and I forget the exact comma, but

:

00:45:12,148 --> 00:45:14,728

he made an offhand, a comic to the kids.

:

00:45:14,788 --> 00:45:17,818

Like he's an older actor, you know,

he's, he's talking to these younger kids

:

00:45:18,658 --> 00:45:21,988

actors and he's Hey guys, make sure you

don't get too wrapped up in your roles.

:

00:45:21,988 --> 00:45:23,568

Don't get too emotionally

involved in your roles.

:

00:45:23,568 --> 00:45:24,528

Maybe he was seeing Judd.

:

00:45:24,528 --> 00:45:26,398

So maybe he's talking to

them as a group or something.

:

00:45:26,408 --> 00:45:26,598

Cause

:

00:45:26,708 --> 00:45:27,228

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

00:45:27,228 --> 00:45:27,988

Ryan Rebalkin: getting too wrapped up.

:

00:45:28,348 --> 00:45:32,018

He goes, cause you don't want to be like

Martin Sheen, like on apocalypse now.

:

00:45:33,538 --> 00:45:35,488

And he didn't know that Emilio.

:

00:45:35,518 --> 00:45:39,308

He was the son of Martin and

Emilio freaked out at him.

:

00:45:39,668 --> 00:45:44,488

So that's my dad and he felt horrible

and he, and Emilio never forgave him

:

00:45:44,488 --> 00:45:45,958

on the set or anything like that.

:

00:45:46,198 --> 00:45:48,568

Cause he, you know, of course he's

only 22, he's very protective of

:

00:45:48,568 --> 00:45:50,888

his dad, icon, icon on screen.

:

00:45:51,338 --> 00:45:51,728

And.

:

00:45:51,958 --> 00:45:55,128

The same actor who played the janitor

met Martin later, I think it was on

:

00:45:55,128 --> 00:45:56,218

the West Wing, I think during that

:

00:45:56,348 --> 00:45:56,668

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:45:57,198 --> 00:46:00,168

Ryan Rebalkin: And he said I had

this weird encounter with your son.

:

00:46:00,168 --> 00:46:01,158

I know it's kind of funny.

:

00:46:01,508 --> 00:46:02,878

And Martin just laughed it off.

:

00:46:03,168 --> 00:46:03,608

He said, you've been

:

00:46:03,608 --> 00:46:03,998

holding on to

:

00:46:04,008 --> 00:46:04,858

Katie: Martin thought it was funny.

:

00:46:04,858 --> 00:46:05,498

Class act.

:

00:46:05,538 --> 00:46:05,728

I

:

00:46:05,948 --> 00:46:06,308

Ryan Rebalkin: Class.

:

00:46:06,518 --> 00:46:06,588

Yeah.

:

00:46:06,588 --> 00:46:07,938

He was like, Oh, this is my son.

:

00:46:07,938 --> 00:46:09,558

This is Emilio being all hotheaded.

:

00:46:09,558 --> 00:46:10,098

You're fine.

:

00:46:10,108 --> 00:46:10,668

You're fine.

:

00:46:10,708 --> 00:46:11,088

But yeah.

:

00:46:11,408 --> 00:46:13,198

So, but the poor guy carried that forever

:

00:46:13,568 --> 00:46:14,048

Katie: I know.

:

00:46:14,068 --> 00:46:17,268

I read that and I thought,

well, isn't that odd though,

:

00:46:17,278 --> 00:46:19,348

because they look so similar.

:

00:46:19,448 --> 00:46:20,628

I mean, I guess the names

:

00:46:20,628 --> 00:46:21,548

are different, so maybe he

:

00:46:21,628 --> 00:46:23,028

Ryan Rebalkin: no internet back then

:

00:46:23,428 --> 00:46:24,748

and that's why he changed his name.

:

00:46:24,748 --> 00:46:29,168

I think Emilio Emilio did change his

name to to keep, I think, I think

:

00:46:29,188 --> 00:46:30,588

there's, I don't know the exact reasons.

:

00:46:30,588 --> 00:46:31,108

I think it was his

:

00:46:31,208 --> 00:46:33,458

Katie: Well, Martin Sheen, Sheen is a

:

00:46:33,458 --> 00:46:36,298

stage name and then Charlie just took his

:

00:46:36,298 --> 00:46:39,968

dad's Stage name, but Estevez is

the family, is actually the family,

:

00:46:39,968 --> 00:46:40,188

name.

:

00:46:40,263 --> 00:46:40,563

Ryan Rebalkin: sounds

:

00:46:40,563 --> 00:46:42,393

great to Emilio Estevez.

:

00:46:42,398 --> 00:46:43,128

Katie: It does.

:

00:46:43,168 --> 00:46:43,658

It does.

:

00:46:43,688 --> 00:46:44,248

I like, it.

:

00:46:44,758 --> 00:46:46,208

Ryan Rebalkin: I have nothing

bad to say about Emilio.

:

00:46:46,248 --> 00:46:46,868

I never will.

:

00:46:46,868 --> 00:46:48,048

You won't get it out of me.

:

00:46:48,098 --> 00:46:49,068

I loved his performance.

:

00:46:49,068 --> 00:46:49,798

I thought he was great.

:

00:46:49,798 --> 00:46:51,858

I mean, I was just jealous

that Judd got more lines.

:

00:46:51,968 --> 00:46:53,268

I was like, come on, give more to Emilio.

:

00:46:53,268 --> 00:46:54,178

But he did a great job.

:

00:46:54,178 --> 00:46:54,808

I loved it.

:

00:46:54,808 --> 00:46:54,978

Yeah.

:

00:46:55,368 --> 00:46:58,768

Except for the one scene that even John

Hughes says he wishes he could take out,

:

00:46:58,768 --> 00:46:59,768

you know, that scene I'm talking about.

:

00:47:00,593 --> 00:47:01,763

Katie: where the glass breaks when

:

00:47:01,763 --> 00:47:06,633

he yells that dance, that,

that dance sequence, there was,

:

00:47:07,073 --> 00:47:08,753

there was some oddities and the

:

00:47:08,753 --> 00:47:09,413

dance, like,

:

00:47:09,413 --> 00:47:09,873

when

:

00:47:09,888 --> 00:47:10,058

Ryan Rebalkin: can do it.

:

00:47:10,058 --> 00:47:10,308

I chalk

:

00:47:10,308 --> 00:47:10,788

it up to.

:

00:47:11,863 --> 00:47:12,283

The glass.

:

00:47:12,313 --> 00:47:13,273

The glass didn't break.

:

00:47:13,423 --> 00:47:14,353

I just chalk it up too.

:

00:47:14,353 --> 00:47:15,703

It's in his imagination.

:

00:47:15,793 --> 00:47:18,733

That's how, that's what I,

yeah, it was 'cause he was high.

:

00:47:19,033 --> 00:47:21,433

So the, the glass breaks for

the audience, but it's the

:

00:47:21,433 --> 00:47:22,483

point of view of the character.

:

00:47:22,513 --> 00:47:23,683

That's how I work around that.

:

00:47:23,728 --> 00:47:24,138

Katie: Okay.

:

00:47:24,398 --> 00:47:24,988

That's good.

:

00:47:25,168 --> 00:47:25,328

I

:

00:47:25,328 --> 00:47:26,008

like it.

:

00:47:26,018 --> 00:47:26,628

That's a good way to

:

00:47:26,678 --> 00:47:27,898

Ryan Rebalkin: it's

never talked about again.

:

00:47:27,908 --> 00:47:28,628

There's no mess.

:

00:47:28,628 --> 00:47:29,798

They were not walking on it.

:

00:47:29,798 --> 00:47:33,888

It's never spoken up I think it's just

in his mind He's dancing so incredibly

:

00:47:33,888 --> 00:47:37,598

and he's yelling and dances so incredibly

well that the glass breaks, but it

:

00:47:37,598 --> 00:47:40,868

doesn't break just in his mind Well,

:

00:47:41,108 --> 00:47:42,538

Katie: odd that they made him.

:

00:47:42,548 --> 00:47:46,318

So amped up pot does not

make you amped up like that.

:

00:47:46,328 --> 00:47:48,228

He was it was like, he was doing speed.

:

00:47:48,228 --> 00:47:48,298

Okay.

:

00:47:48,703 --> 00:47:49,493

Like an upper

:

00:47:49,793 --> 00:47:50,563

instead of a downer.

:

00:47:50,698 --> 00:47:53,518

Ryan Rebalkin: don't know what's

this pot lace with something.

:

00:47:53,518 --> 00:47:54,278

We don't know.

:

00:47:54,438 --> 00:47:54,598

We

:

00:47:54,773 --> 00:47:58,233

Katie: Well, why would he be the

only one that got, anyway, I, at any

:

00:47:58,233 --> 00:47:58,533

rate.

:

00:47:59,308 --> 00:48:04,488

Ryan Rebalkin: I love I know I love

it when pot is miss I could be wrong.

:

00:48:04,488 --> 00:48:06,358

I'm not a pot connoisseur,

even though I'm legally allowed

:

00:48:06,358 --> 00:48:06,988

to be if you can believe it.

:

00:48:06,998 --> 00:48:09,038

Even in the Canadian military,

we are allowed to have pots.

:

00:48:10,263 --> 00:48:10,433

Katie: Oh,

:

00:48:10,433 --> 00:48:11,613

even military folks.

:

00:48:11,618 --> 00:48:13,728

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, we, it's

the same rules of alcohol.

:

00:48:13,728 --> 00:48:14,808

You just can't come to work high.

:

00:48:15,318 --> 00:48:15,848

If you're,

:

00:48:15,853 --> 00:48:16,403

Katie: Oh, well, duh.

:

00:48:16,403 --> 00:48:16,633

Yeah.

:

00:48:16,633 --> 00:48:16,903

It's the

:

00:48:16,903 --> 00:48:17,203

same.

:

00:48:17,243 --> 00:48:17,493

Yeah.

:

00:48:17,493 --> 00:48:17,763

that

:

00:48:17,938 --> 00:48:20,188

Ryan Rebalkin: yeah, but, uh,

but it's legal in the books.

:

00:48:20,188 --> 00:48:22,138

It's not legal in the

American military still.

:

00:48:22,703 --> 00:48:25,863

So they actually had like pot designated

smoking areas for the recruits.

:

00:48:26,488 --> 00:48:29,318

So when you're on a break and

you're not working, it's a weekend,

:

00:48:29,318 --> 00:48:30,798

you're allowed to smoke marijuana.

:

00:48:31,748 --> 00:48:32,358

Katie: I mean, it's the

:

00:48:32,358 --> 00:48:32,608

same.

:

00:48:32,678 --> 00:48:33,758

I mean, you're, you're

:

00:48:33,878 --> 00:48:34,588

Ryan Rebalkin: the same as drinking.

:

00:48:34,668 --> 00:48:35,918

Katie: same as having a beer,

:

00:48:35,938 --> 00:48:36,598

you know, when you're

:

00:48:36,598 --> 00:48:38,228

not on duty or whatever.

:

00:48:38,228 --> 00:48:38,578

Yeah.

:

00:48:39,078 --> 00:48:41,298

So speaking of John Kapelos or Kapelos.

:

00:48:41,358 --> 00:48:43,408

God, I wish I knew I

should have looked it up.

:

00:48:43,418 --> 00:48:44,738

Who knows how this is pronounced

:

00:48:44,808 --> 00:48:45,468

at any rate.

:

00:48:45,508 --> 00:48:46,888

He plays Carl, the janitor.

:

00:48:47,453 --> 00:48:49,403

And he has over 200 credits.

:

00:48:49,403 --> 00:48:50,763

So he's in a ton of stuff.

:

00:48:51,193 --> 00:48:53,053

Some notable recent stuff.

:

00:48:53,143 --> 00:48:53,383

Yeah.

:

00:48:53,393 --> 00:48:54,303

He's, he is great.

:

00:48:54,313 --> 00:48:57,293

The umbrella Academy TV series

and the shape of water movie

:

00:48:57,803 --> 00:48:59,683

is some more recent stuff.

:

00:49:00,223 --> 00:49:04,353

And then we'll get into some roles that a

lot of these actors haven't have in common

:

00:49:04,353 --> 00:49:04,993

together.

:

00:49:05,553 --> 00:49:07,963

But did you know that he's Canadian?

:

00:49:09,058 --> 00:49:09,948

Ryan Rebalkin: no, I missed that.

:

00:49:09,948 --> 00:49:10,398

Oh, wow.

:

00:49:10,488 --> 00:49:11,018

Good for him.

:

00:49:11,063 --> 00:49:13,723

Katie: He's born in London, Ontario.

:

00:49:14,418 --> 00:49:17,428

And last but not least, we have

Paul Gleason who plays Richard

:

00:49:17,448 --> 00:49:23,708

Vernon, the principal, which we

will get it or is he, what, what is

:

00:49:23,708 --> 00:49:23,808

he?

:

00:49:23,808 --> 00:49:27,418

We'll get to that in a second, but

you all probably know Paul Gleason

:

00:49:27,418 --> 00:49:30,858

most probably from this, but he

was also in trading spaces and

:

00:49:30,868 --> 00:49:31,518

Arthur.

:

00:49:31,998 --> 00:49:36,058

And then he reprised his

role as Vernon in:

:

00:49:36,683 --> 00:49:37,753

Not another teen movie.

:

00:49:39,213 --> 00:49:40,613

Ryan Rebalkin: No, not really.

:

00:49:40,853 --> 00:49:42,843

That's what he reprises roll.

:

00:49:43,903 --> 00:49:44,123

That's

:

00:49:44,413 --> 00:49:46,513

Katie: Molly Ringwald

was in it too, I believe.

:

00:49:47,013 --> 00:49:48,723

Ryan Rebalkin: That was 24 years ago.

:

00:49:48,993 --> 00:49:49,953

What is going on?

:

00:49:50,703 --> 00:49:53,763

They could make another, not another,

not another teen movie at this point.

:

00:49:53,763 --> 00:49:54,243

Like it's

:

00:49:55,543 --> 00:49:57,453

Katie: The:

:

00:49:57,453 --> 00:49:57,913

'

movie.

:

00:49:57,993 --> 00:50:02,223

Ryan Rebalkin: 85 to

:

:

00:50:02,223 --> 00:50:03,093

Am I getting my math right?

:

00:50:03,513 --> 00:50:03,853

Katie: huh.

:

00:50:03,913 --> 00:50:06,703

Ryan Rebalkin: there's more

time has passed between that.

:

00:50:07,323 --> 00:50:11,083

We're making fun of teen movies

from the 80s like eight years

:

00:50:11,093 --> 00:50:12,393

more has passed since that movie

:

00:50:12,413 --> 00:50:12,833

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

00:50:13,493 --> 00:50:15,943

Ryan Rebalkin: Where do you ever get

weirded out by that kind of thing?

:

00:50:16,053 --> 00:50:16,833

Katie: I do.

:

00:50:17,413 --> 00:50:20,493

We talked about it the other day

on the Rocky show to me,:

:

00:50:20,493 --> 00:50:23,433

like yesterday, but that's 20 years

:

00:50:23,433 --> 00:50:24,053

ago.

:

00:50:24,378 --> 00:50:25,888

Ryan Rebalkin: Here's

another one that I love.

:

00:50:26,108 --> 00:50:28,168

Think of a cover song that

you enjoyed in your youth.

:

00:50:28,288 --> 00:50:29,738

Like for example, I'll

just pick an easy one.

:

00:50:29,768 --> 00:50:34,048

Aerosmith covered Come Together in

87 on their permanent vacation album.

:

00:50:34,048 --> 00:50:34,958

They covered the Beatles.

:

00:50:35,238 --> 00:50:38,038

So when I was listening to that when I

was 12, 13 years old, I'm listening, yeah,

:

00:50:38,038 --> 00:50:39,698

the Beatles, that old band, the Beatles.

:

00:50:39,998 --> 00:50:42,598

And of course, Aerosmith is

current rock and roll band.

:

00:50:42,838 --> 00:50:44,348

You know, they're covering the Beatles.

:

00:50:44,348 --> 00:50:45,628

How cool of them to cover the Beatles.

:

00:50:45,878 --> 00:50:47,508

Yeah, that's such an old

song for them to cover.

:

00:50:47,508 --> 00:50:48,088

It sounds old.

:

00:50:48,098 --> 00:50:48,678

It's an old song.

:

00:50:49,228 --> 00:50:54,898

Now more time has passed by far since

the cover of the beat like From now to

:

00:50:54,898 --> 00:50:57,968

when that album came

out almost 40 years ago.

:

00:50:57,968 --> 00:50:58,128

You

:

00:50:58,128 --> 00:50:59,818

know, you don't know i'm

getting that like it's like the

:

00:50:59,818 --> 00:51:04,838

covers of songs that were Covers of old

songs back when we were young are now

:

00:51:04,888 --> 00:51:08,608

twice as old The covers are twice as old

now as when they were covering the song.

:

00:51:08,958 --> 00:51:09,643

I I can't I can't

:

00:51:10,508 --> 00:51:14,808

Katie: I think that the advent of

the internet was such a line in

:

00:51:14,808 --> 00:51:15,698

the sand,

:

00:51:15,823 --> 00:51:16,743

Ryan Rebalkin: I think so.

:

00:51:16,958 --> 00:51:17,488

Katie: you know,

:

00:51:19,608 --> 00:51:22,798

because so much did change from the

:

00:51:22,798 --> 00:51:23,948

60s to the 80s.

:

00:51:24,818 --> 00:51:25,408

20 years.

:

00:51:25,523 --> 00:51:28,263

Ryan Rebalkin: was, it was like 50

years, the sixties, the seventies

:

00:51:28,563 --> 00:51:31,313

we could, we talked about it, but it

bears repeating, especially on a show

:

00:51:31,313 --> 00:51:35,893

called the retro main, meaning you

can't do it like in 40 years, they're

:

00:51:35,893 --> 00:51:38,423

going to do a podcast on the:

:

00:51:38,838 --> 00:51:39,248

Katie: No,

:

00:51:40,293 --> 00:51:42,053

Ryan Rebalkin: there's something identity

:

00:51:42,053 --> 00:51:42,783

of the decades has

:

00:51:42,868 --> 00:51:43,408

Katie: about it.

:

00:51:44,628 --> 00:51:47,518

Ryan Rebalkin: The fifties, sixties,

seventies and eighties and even nineties,

:

00:51:48,298 --> 00:51:51,108

there's something special about those

four to five decade run where every

:

00:51:51,108 --> 00:51:56,618

decade had an identity of music,

TV, film, cartoons, books, clothes.

:

00:51:56,618 --> 00:51:57,438

Katie: hundred percent.

:

00:51:57,678 --> 00:52:03,058

The latter half of the 20th

century was wild in so many ways.

:

00:52:04,108 --> 00:52:06,768

Ryan Rebalkin: And then now it's

like, if I wore an outfit in:

:

00:52:07,828 --> 00:52:11,168

and went back to:

the same outfit, be like, Oh, hi.

:

00:52:12,273 --> 00:52:14,983

But where'd you get those

futures to close but if I wore

:

00:52:14,983 --> 00:52:16,003

bell bottoms it

:

00:52:16,593 --> 00:52:20,973

But if I wore bell bottoms in 89

When they only wore them 10 years

:

00:52:20,983 --> 00:52:23,253

previous people would be like, what

are you doing wearing about you?

:

00:52:23,253 --> 00:52:24,213

Are you insane?

:

00:52:24,733 --> 00:52:25,793

Katie: Well, one of the, I will

:

00:52:25,793 --> 00:52:26,793

say one thing

:

00:52:26,793 --> 00:52:32,313

that's different about your analogy

is that you're not attempting

:

00:52:32,863 --> 00:52:34,793

to wear trendy clothes now,

:

00:52:34,793 --> 00:52:37,483

like if you were to wear

what is considered trendy

:

00:52:37,483 --> 00:52:39,123

now you know, meaning bell

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00:52:39,123 --> 00:52:41,743

bottoms, Not everybody wore bell bottoms.

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00:52:41,743 --> 00:52:42,003

They were

:

00:52:42,068 --> 00:52:45,078

Ryan Rebalkin: everyone no I did I did

when I was a kid I wore bell bottoms

:

00:52:45,108 --> 00:52:49,698

It was a death like that was a symbol

of the 70s was bell bottoms like in the

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00:52:50,033 --> 00:52:50,513

Katie: I see.

:

00:52:50,513 --> 00:52:50,723

Yeah.

:

00:52:50,723 --> 00:52:54,273

Like just I'm picturing like this very 70s

:

00:52:54,283 --> 00:52:54,713

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, i'm

:

00:52:54,838 --> 00:52:55,488

Katie: yeah, I see what you're

:

00:52:55,543 --> 00:52:57,883

Ryan Rebalkin: hippie stuff This is

the common kid wore bell bottoms to

:

00:52:57,883 --> 00:53:02,263

school like the bell bottoms was the

pants you wore you were if I wore

:

00:53:02,263 --> 00:53:06,793

bell bottoms in fifth or sixth grade,

I would be laughed out of school.

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00:53:08,583 --> 00:53:09,153

Katie: You're right.

:

00:53:10,413 --> 00:53:14,453

It's interesting that you say that because

for women your jeans again, unless you're

:

00:53:14,453 --> 00:53:18,033

trying to be trendy and, you know, 15

years ago, you started wearing skinny

:

00:53:18,233 --> 00:53:18,883

skinny jeans or

:

00:53:19,293 --> 00:53:19,623

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh my

:

00:53:19,933 --> 00:53:24,003

Katie: but for women, the

jeans really do still.

:

00:53:24,738 --> 00:53:29,938

Change trend wise, skinny flare,

big pants, you know, there's

:

00:53:29,938 --> 00:53:32,078

different ones that you it's,

:

00:53:32,138 --> 00:53:35,118

I think it's more

pronounced now for women.

:

00:53:36,763 --> 00:53:37,133

Ryan Rebalkin: I just find

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00:53:37,178 --> 00:53:37,998

Katie: it is interesting.

:

00:53:38,643 --> 00:53:39,663

Ryan Rebalkin: There's real identities.

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00:53:39,673 --> 00:53:42,453

And I just don't know what our

kids today are going to say.

:

00:53:42,513 --> 00:53:44,513

you may remember back in the:

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00:53:44,958 --> 00:53:45,328

Katie: Nope.

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00:53:47,513 --> 00:53:49,023

Not as defining.

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00:53:49,253 --> 00:53:49,643

It's not.

:

00:53:49,673 --> 00:53:50,323

Yeah, I agree.

:

00:53:50,333 --> 00:53:51,413

Retro made.

:

00:53:51,933 --> 00:53:56,513

It is I adored the music in The

Breakfast Club and I noted several

:

00:53:56,513 --> 00:54:01,583

instances where it really elevated

either the emotion or what we were

:

00:54:01,823 --> 00:54:03,563

supposed to get from it aside from

:

00:54:03,563 --> 00:54:04,473

it just being fun.

:

00:54:04,788 --> 00:54:05,338

Ryan Rebalkin: The intro

:

00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:05,953

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:54:06,378 --> 00:54:06,738

Ryan Rebalkin: right away.

:

00:54:06,738 --> 00:54:08,268

You're just like, Oh, here we go.

:

00:54:08,548 --> 00:54:09,818

80 simple minds.

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00:54:09,848 --> 00:54:10,238

Yeah.

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00:54:10,433 --> 00:54:10,933

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

00:54:11,433 --> 00:54:14,473

So Keith Forsey was the

guy who did the music.

:

00:54:14,473 --> 00:54:17,013

He's an English pop musician

and record producer.

:

00:54:17,383 --> 00:54:21,853

He produced for Billy Idol

and Flashdances, What a

:

00:54:21,853 --> 00:54:24,323

Feeling, songs for Beverly Hills Cops.

:

00:54:24,788 --> 00:54:27,558

Ghostbusters and of course,

that simple mind song.

:

00:54:28,188 --> 00:54:29,468

Don't you forget about me?

:

00:54:29,838 --> 00:54:32,168

It was originally offered to

them and they declined it.

:

00:54:32,928 --> 00:54:33,408

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah.

:

00:54:33,438 --> 00:54:33,558

It's

:

00:54:33,568 --> 00:54:34,298

Katie: Did you read about?

:

00:54:34,298 --> 00:54:34,478

Yeah.

:

00:54:34,478 --> 00:54:37,598

And then several other people,

Brian Ferry, Billy Idol, several

:

00:54:37,598 --> 00:54:41,328

other artists passed the song and

then simple minds reconsidered.

:

00:54:42,128 --> 00:54:45,108

And I would, I would bet quite a bit

of money that they're really glad

:

00:54:45,108 --> 00:54:48,318

they reconsidered because

it is no it's known it's the

:

00:54:48,328 --> 00:54:49,328

breakfast club song.

:

00:54:49,733 --> 00:54:50,043

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah.

:

00:54:50,043 --> 00:54:50,483

Oh, yeah.

:

00:54:50,483 --> 00:54:52,253

They're they're happy

cashing those checks.

:

00:54:53,283 --> 00:54:53,833

you worry.

:

00:54:53,853 --> 00:54:55,463

They're fine about the royalties from that

:

00:54:56,288 --> 00:54:57,758

Katie: don't you worry

:

00:54:57,758 --> 00:54:58,418

about them?

:

00:54:59,738 --> 00:55:00,148

Ryan Rebalkin: In the

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00:55:00,148 --> 00:55:00,548

part at the

:

00:55:00,548 --> 00:55:05,538

end there, you probably read that too

where he's going The singer was like i'm

:

00:55:05,538 --> 00:55:09,078

sick of the song and so he didn't want

to sing lyrics or anything So he just

:

00:55:09,078 --> 00:55:13,998

made that he he tried to sabotage the

song by lala and at the end And it turns

:

00:55:13,998 --> 00:55:14,148

out

:

00:55:14,233 --> 00:55:17,203

Katie: cared so little about it that

he was just like, la, la, la, la, la,

:

00:55:17,258 --> 00:55:17,648

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah,

:

00:55:17,938 --> 00:55:20,348

but it turns out it's like

that's the favorite part of the

:

00:55:20,348 --> 00:55:21,668

song for people is the outro

:

00:55:22,553 --> 00:55:26,633

Katie: I kind of thought

maybe it had won more awards.

:

00:55:26,633 --> 00:55:31,723

The only award that it won was the MTV

e and TV awards and not until:

:

00:55:32,653 --> 00:55:34,253

So that would have, what was that?

:

00:55:34,253 --> 00:55:34,993

20 years later

:

00:55:34,993 --> 00:55:35,743

20 years later.

:

00:55:36,193 --> 00:55:39,333

So silver bucket of excellence award.

:

00:55:40,088 --> 00:55:44,328

Did you know that the breakfast club

and Rocky have something in common?

:

00:55:46,368 --> 00:55:46,668

Ryan Rebalkin: Why did

:

00:55:46,678 --> 00:55:47,428

Katie: Do you know where I'm going with

:

00:55:47,428 --> 00:55:47,978

this rain

:

00:55:48,508 --> 00:55:49,578

Ryan Rebalkin: Can you give me a hint?

:

00:55:49,918 --> 00:55:50,698

Can I can I get a

:

00:55:50,888 --> 00:55:51,488

Katie: budget?

:

00:55:51,508 --> 00:55:52,248

It gives it

:

00:55:52,248 --> 00:55:53,278

away the budget of the

:

00:55:53,278 --> 00:55:53,628

movie,

:

00:55:53,768 --> 00:55:55,398

Ryan Rebalkin: I know what the

budget is you're right this

:

00:55:55,398 --> 00:55:57,038

crazy little budgets insane

:

00:55:58,678 --> 00:56:00,208

Katie: a million dollars.

:

00:56:00,928 --> 00:56:01,228

Ryan Rebalkin: Which is

:

00:56:01,228 --> 00:56:04,108

even crazier, because in theory,

Rocky had a bigger budget.

:

00:56:05,618 --> 00:56:06,658

Katie: wasn't it about a million?

:

00:56:06,658 --> 00:56:07,708

wasn't it even less than?

:

00:56:07,758 --> 00:56:09,568

Oh, because it was, in:

:

00:56:09,978 --> 00:56:10,808

Yeah, in the 70s.

:

00:56:10,808 --> 00:56:11,288

You're right.

:

00:56:11,818 --> 00:56:12,318

You're right.

:

00:56:13,308 --> 00:56:13,888

But

:

00:56:13,988 --> 00:56:15,018

Ryan Rebalkin: had a lower budget, in

:

00:56:15,028 --> 00:56:15,848

Katie: lower budget.

:

00:56:16,138 --> 00:56:18,738

It does make sense though,

because there's only 7 characters.

:

00:56:19,078 --> 00:56:19,358

If you

:

00:56:19,358 --> 00:56:23,468

don't count the parents and

stuff, it's all in 1 place.

:

00:56:23,738 --> 00:56:25,348

They're basically, it's just dialogue.

:

00:56:25,348 --> 00:56:27,318

There's not like special effects or,

:

00:56:28,178 --> 00:56:28,598

you know,

:

00:56:28,658 --> 00:56:31,598

Ryan Rebalkin: I'm sure it's been done

so I I'm saying something I'm sure

:

00:56:31,598 --> 00:56:35,028

you're like, of course Ryan this has

been done But this is I'm sure this has

:

00:56:35,028 --> 00:56:39,018

been done school college plays drama

class This must have been revamped

:

00:56:39,038 --> 00:56:41,068

for because this is a stage play.

:

00:56:41,368 --> 00:56:41,878

This whole thing's a

:

00:56:41,888 --> 00:56:42,608

Katie: he wrote it as a

:

00:56:42,608 --> 00:56:42,838

state.

:

00:56:42,838 --> 00:56:43,588

Yeah, you're right.

:

00:56:43,718 --> 00:56:45,048

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh He

did he wrote it as well.

:

00:56:45,048 --> 00:56:45,778

He wrote it that way.

:

00:56:45,788 --> 00:56:46,178

Okay,

:

00:56:46,403 --> 00:56:46,643

Katie: yeah.

:

00:56:46,703 --> 00:56:49,148

Mm-hmm He thought it

would be easier for them.

:

00:56:49,148 --> 00:56:51,788

And these were like you

know, there's no big names.

:

00:56:51,788 --> 00:56:54,428

At the time, they were up and coming

actors, so they didn't have to pay

:

00:56:54,428 --> 00:56:55,388

them that much too.

:

00:56:55,548 --> 00:56:55,888

Ryan Rebalkin: Sure.

:

00:56:55,948 --> 00:56:56,268

Yeah.

:

00:56:56,808 --> 00:56:58,558

Well, she was only 16 Molly herself.

:

00:56:58,588 --> 00:56:59,028

And so

:

00:56:59,028 --> 00:56:59,628

was Anthony.

:

00:56:59,678 --> 00:57:00,748

Oh, I want to say about Anthony.

:

00:57:01,298 --> 00:57:03,148

I want to say about Anthony, Michael Hall.

:

00:57:03,638 --> 00:57:07,608

He, I forgot he, he really did give

a surprisingly great performance.

:

00:57:07,628 --> 00:57:10,578

You know, sometimes when you play

the nerdy kid or whatever, I'm

:

00:57:10,578 --> 00:57:13,428

the comedy, like he's the comedy

relief sort of speak character.

:

00:57:14,098 --> 00:57:18,218

He did a great job as the As the nerd,

sure, someone who's trying very hard and

:

00:57:18,218 --> 00:57:21,118

it feels like he doesn't belong there,

whatever, but then when he exposed

:

00:57:21,118 --> 00:57:24,168

himself in that round circle at the

end about his own pressures, he goes,

:

00:57:24,168 --> 00:57:25,228

Well, you don't think I have pressure?

:

00:57:25,228 --> 00:57:26,118

You don't think I have?

:

00:57:26,708 --> 00:57:27,398

I love that.

:

00:57:27,408 --> 00:57:29,608

And his crying was a little bit

off the mark, but that's fine.

:

00:57:29,608 --> 00:57:30,578

He's a young actor, but

:

00:57:30,988 --> 00:57:32,998

Katie: Yeah, that kind of

got to me a little bit.

:

00:57:32,998 --> 00:57:33,388

I was like,

:

00:57:33,418 --> 00:57:34,048

oh, that.

:

00:57:34,108 --> 00:57:35,248

But aside from that, I

:

00:57:35,248 --> 00:57:35,549

agree with you.

:

00:57:36,258 --> 00:57:39,868

Ryan Rebalkin: but you know, you could

argue to teenage boys are terrible criers.

:

00:57:40,503 --> 00:57:41,593

We're really bad at it.

:

00:57:41,843 --> 00:57:44,643

So if you want to get down to, he,

he acted the part, meaning like

:

00:57:44,803 --> 00:57:46,483

no teenage boy cries properly.

:

00:57:46,703 --> 00:57:51,043

So it was actually semi accurate

of somebody who's awkward and

:

00:57:51,043 --> 00:57:53,673

weird about crying and he did a great job.

:

00:57:53,693 --> 00:57:56,703

And Stanley Kubrick, of course, noticed

his, I should say, of course, but

:

00:57:56,703 --> 00:58:01,653

Stanley Kubrick noticed and appreciated

Anthony's acting in this film.

:

00:58:01,933 --> 00:58:02,663

And I feel the same way.

:

00:58:02,663 --> 00:58:05,703

It was actually a very strong performance,

probably the strongest of the cast.

:

00:58:05,703 --> 00:58:07,053

I think Anthony's performance really.

:

00:58:07,583 --> 00:58:10,793

And Stanley Kubrick wanted to

get him for full metal jacket.

:

00:58:11,868 --> 00:58:12,718

Katie: That's right.

:

00:58:12,843 --> 00:58:16,113

Ryan Rebalkin: Anthony and Michael turned

it down, even after some negotiations.

:

00:58:16,113 --> 00:58:20,263

I don't know what his reasons were,

but boy Matthew Modine played the

:

00:58:20,263 --> 00:58:22,843

character that he turned down in

that film and he did a great job.

:

00:58:22,983 --> 00:58:27,133

I Matthew did, but boy, I wonder

if Anthony Michael Hall at any

:

00:58:27,133 --> 00:58:29,583

point goes, Oh, shoot, I could

have been a full metal jacket.

:

00:58:30,433 --> 00:58:31,043

So I don't

:

00:58:31,208 --> 00:58:34,758

Katie: Well, I, he probably did later

because there was a point and this, this

:

00:58:34,798 --> 00:58:38,348

gets into the discussion about both he

and Molly Ringwald after a certain point.

:

00:58:38,348 --> 00:58:39,608

So they did a number of these

:

00:58:39,638 --> 00:58:44,448

teen movies for John Hughes and John

considered those 2 specifically as his

:

00:58:44,448 --> 00:58:49,958

muses and I think he, he definitely

wanted Molly and some kind of wonderful.

:

00:58:50,583 --> 00:58:53,623

And Anthony Michael Hall

for maybe that movie too.

:

00:58:53,623 --> 00:58:55,603

I can't remember and they were

like, we don't want to keep doing

:

00:58:55,603 --> 00:58:56,613

the same thing

:

00:58:56,713 --> 00:58:57,033

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah

:

00:58:57,613 --> 00:58:59,813

Katie: and, you know, he

took it really personally.

:

00:58:59,893 --> 00:59:01,163

Ryan Rebalkin: Okay,

that's the other john.

:

00:59:01,183 --> 00:59:02,773

That's the john the john story again.

:

00:59:03,053 --> 00:59:03,513

Sorry.

:

00:59:03,563 --> 00:59:03,903

Sorry.

:

00:59:03,913 --> 00:59:04,533

Yeah, go ahead please

:

00:59:04,648 --> 00:59:05,298

Katie: No, you're right.

:

00:59:05,718 --> 00:59:05,958

you're

:

00:59:05,958 --> 00:59:06,448

absolutely right.

:

00:59:06,448 --> 00:59:07,448

He, you know,

:

00:59:09,478 --> 00:59:10,838

you can't really blame them.

:

00:59:10,848 --> 00:59:12,638

You wouldn't want to keep

doing the same thing.

:

00:59:12,638 --> 00:59:16,268

Where I was going with that

is that at that time, Anthony

:

00:59:16,268 --> 00:59:17,568

Michael Hall probably was kicking

:

00:59:17,568 --> 00:59:19,958

himself because he could

have gotten out of that,

:

00:59:20,588 --> 00:59:22,138

you know, teen movie

:

00:59:22,383 --> 00:59:24,513

Ryan Rebalkin: that's why he didn't take

it I wonder if that's one of the reasons

:

00:59:24,543 --> 00:59:27,203

maybe he still felt he had a foot in

one door because once he goes through

:

00:59:27,203 --> 00:59:28,643

That door of a full metal jacket film.

:

00:59:28,643 --> 00:59:29,643

He's not going back to what he

:

00:59:30,078 --> 00:59:30,528

Katie: True.

:

00:59:30,678 --> 00:59:31,258

You're right.

:

00:59:31,808 --> 00:59:32,248

Yeah,

:

00:59:33,173 --> 00:59:36,593

Ryan Rebalkin: I also heard it could

have been a time thing too with Stanley

:

00:59:36,593 --> 00:59:40,023

if you sat sign on for stout you're done

for a Year to a year and a half almost

:

00:59:40,023 --> 00:59:42,823

two years like you're you're on his

:

00:59:43,488 --> 00:59:45,348

Katie: Oh, that's, that's a big

:

00:59:45,358 --> 00:59:47,818

commitment for a teenager, you know.

:

00:59:48,093 --> 00:59:54,343

Yeah, now that folks is a pretty

significant contributing factor

:

00:59:54,943 --> 01:00:00,153

to why John Hughes transitioned

from making these teen movies to

:

01:00:00,153 --> 01:00:02,813

more family friendly kid movies.

:

01:00:03,393 --> 01:00:03,653

Did you

:

01:00:03,653 --> 01:00:05,483

know that He lost his muse?

:

01:00:05,533 --> 01:00:06,813

He was really upset by that

:

01:00:07,693 --> 01:00:08,253

Ryan Rebalkin: really

:

01:00:10,033 --> 01:00:10,643

Katie: Molly

:

01:00:10,673 --> 01:00:13,353

Ryan Rebalkin: pharaoh he wanted

his own me a pharaoh is what it was

:

01:00:13,743 --> 01:00:15,093

Katie: I guess I guess

:

01:00:15,423 --> 01:00:15,803

Well,

:

01:00:15,823 --> 01:00:18,013

Ryan Rebalkin: there was a I wonder

if there was some sort of crush factor

:

01:00:18,043 --> 01:00:21,973

like let's be honest I wonder and I

don't mean anything inappropriate or

:

01:00:21,973 --> 01:00:24,713

untowards But there's got to be some

sort of because that's what I think

:

01:00:24,943 --> 01:00:27,713

I'm speaking on a turn here I think

it wasn't be a feral muse to woody.

:

01:00:27,723 --> 01:00:28,753

It wasn't the whole

:

01:00:28,913 --> 01:00:31,838

Katie: I think so.

:

01:00:32,538 --> 01:00:35,578

You had mentioned ages, I did

find the ages really interesting.

:

01:00:35,578 --> 01:00:36,158

So you're right.

:

01:00:36,568 --> 01:00:37,188

Molly.

:

01:00:37,578 --> 01:00:38,838

Was almost 17.

:

01:00:38,848 --> 01:00:42,388

She like turned 17 while they

were filming and Anthony was 16

:

01:00:42,718 --> 01:00:44,768

and they, I guess, started dating

:

01:00:45,078 --> 01:00:46,638

a little bit after filming this.

:

01:00:46,753 --> 01:00:47,043

Ryan Rebalkin: they

:

01:00:47,423 --> 01:00:48,863

Anthony and Molly?

:

01:00:49,908 --> 01:00:52,678

Katie: I mean, cause they were

both actual, they were the only

:

01:00:52,688 --> 01:00:54,158

actual teenagers in

:

01:00:54,158 --> 01:00:56,008

the movie, Emilio and

:

01:00:56,018 --> 01:00:57,588

Allie were both 23.

:

01:00:58,443 --> 01:00:58,983

Ryan Rebalkin: 23.

:

01:00:58,993 --> 01:00:59,243

Okay.

:

01:00:59,493 --> 01:00:59,713

Yeah.

:

01:01:00,638 --> 01:01:02,398

Katie: Judd was 25.

:

01:01:02,498 --> 01:01:03,228

Now get this.

:

01:01:04,248 --> 01:01:05,478

I would, okay.

:

01:01:05,678 --> 01:01:05,968

On

:

01:01:05,968 --> 01:01:09,128

that topic, you have a 25

year old and a 16 year old.

:

01:01:09,128 --> 01:01:11,828

He literally Judd next to Anthony.

:

01:01:12,638 --> 01:01:13,468

He looked like he could be his

:

01:01:13,478 --> 01:01:14,198

dad.

:

01:01:14,228 --> 01:01:17,048

There's so much maturity

difference between a 25 year

:

01:01:17,048 --> 01:01:18,778

old man and Judd was like a

:

01:01:18,788 --> 01:01:20,838

man, you know, like not some

:

01:01:21,093 --> 01:01:21,683

Ryan Rebalkin: John.

:

01:01:21,693 --> 01:01:23,983

He's always had a baby face for years.

:

01:01:23,993 --> 01:01:24,873

He might've been a better

:

01:01:25,213 --> 01:01:25,933

Katie: Yeah, you're right.

:

01:01:25,963 --> 01:01:26,203

Ryan Rebalkin: going to

:

01:01:27,693 --> 01:01:28,713

Katie: He does have a baby face.

:

01:01:29,283 --> 01:01:36,133

So John Kapelos, who played Carl the

janitor, even though he's balding, he

:

01:01:36,133 --> 01:01:37,723

was only 3 years older than Judd Nelson.

:

01:01:37,733 --> 01:01:37,953

He was

:

01:01:37,953 --> 01:01:38,593

28.

:

01:01:38,973 --> 01:01:39,603

Ryan Rebalkin: He was 28.

:

01:01:40,323 --> 01:01:40,953

Katie: Yes.

:

01:01:41,353 --> 01:01:46,963

Meaning he's closer in age, he's

closer in age to like Emilio

:

01:01:46,963 --> 01:01:48,043

and Judd and Ali than John.

:

01:01:48,243 --> 01:01:49,223

Then, then,

:

01:01:49,223 --> 01:01:51,223

the 5 characters playing teenagers.

:

01:01:52,053 --> 01:01:52,363

Yeah,

:

01:01:52,508 --> 01:01:54,198

Ryan Rebalkin: his poor heart,

bless his balding heart.

:

01:01:54,198 --> 01:01:54,848

I

:

01:01:55,143 --> 01:01:55,753

Katie: it's unfortunate.

:

01:01:55,753 --> 01:01:57,163

I mean, he does look youthful.

:

01:01:57,163 --> 01:01:57,853

Like, when they show his

:

01:01:57,853 --> 01:02:00,233

face he, he's kind of a handsome man.

:

01:02:00,233 --> 01:02:00,743

If he had

:

01:02:01,198 --> 01:02:02,028

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh yeah, he was fine.

:

01:02:02,048 --> 01:02:07,018

Now was he actually the biological father

of Anthony and Michael Hall's character?

:

01:02:07,048 --> 01:02:07,888

I got confused.

:

01:02:07,928 --> 01:02:10,708

Was that his, or was it his stepdad?

:

01:02:10,708 --> 01:02:11,048

I'm so

:

01:02:11,183 --> 01:02:11,893

Katie: they're not related at

:

01:02:11,893 --> 01:02:12,063

all.

:

01:02:12,063 --> 01:02:12,253

We'll,

:

01:02:13,048 --> 01:02:13,538

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh.

:

01:02:14,013 --> 01:02:14,783

Katie: we'll get to that.

:

01:02:14,783 --> 01:02:14,873

They're

:

01:02:14,918 --> 01:02:15,388

Ryan Rebalkin: stupid?

:

01:02:15,408 --> 01:02:16,298

Why am I dumb?

:

01:02:17,843 --> 01:02:20,073

Katie: because he says he

know, they know each other.

:

01:02:20,573 --> 01:02:25,893

He's like, oh, hey when, when Carl

comes in and he's like, oh, hey, Brian,

:

01:02:26,223 --> 01:02:27,343

he's like, does your dad work here?

:

01:02:27,343 --> 01:02:31,793

Meaning what we maybe got from that

is, oh, your dad maybe works here.

:

01:02:31,793 --> 01:02:33,413

And that's how, you

know, him your dad might

:

01:02:33,413 --> 01:02:34,323

be a teacher here.

:

01:02:34,443 --> 01:02:37,023

Ryan Rebalkin: I just, the way I

watched it, I just, my brain just

:

01:02:37,023 --> 01:02:39,533

went, Oh, you're, that's your dad.

:

01:02:39,693 --> 01:02:41,203

He works here and I'll see you later.

:

01:02:41,203 --> 01:02:41,733

Type talk.

:

01:02:41,733 --> 01:02:43,113

And I got confused by all that.

:

01:02:43,113 --> 01:02:43,613

I'm sorry.

:

01:02:43,723 --> 01:02:44,073

Okay.

:

01:02:44,363 --> 01:02:48,693

Katie: No, but, but

you're probably not alone.

:

01:02:48,753 --> 01:02:54,023

, there was a cut scene about why

Brian is in detention was the flare

:

01:02:54,023 --> 01:02:55,663

gun that went off in his locker

:

01:02:56,543 --> 01:02:56,903

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah.

:

01:02:57,503 --> 01:03:00,983

Katie: There was a cut scene where

Carl was involved in cleaning it

:

01:03:00,983 --> 01:03:04,423

up or, or like he, he knew about like

that, that's how they know each other.

:

01:03:06,128 --> 01:03:08,828

Is because of the, the flare

gun in the locker thing,

:

01:03:10,163 --> 01:03:10,653

Ryan Rebalkin: yeah.

:

01:03:11,078 --> 01:03:11,888

Katie: but that scene was cut.

:

01:03:11,888 --> 01:03:12,978

So

:

01:03:12,978 --> 01:03:14,068

these,

:

01:03:14,283 --> 01:03:14,743

Ryan Rebalkin: Fair enough.

:

01:03:14,743 --> 01:03:15,263

Fair enough.

:

01:03:15,928 --> 01:03:20,688

Katie: the 5, the, the 5

teenagers in this movie in:

:

01:03:20,688 --> 01:03:22,398

this movie comes out in:

:

01:03:22,998 --> 01:03:28,478

In February, 40 years ago, they all

play high school students literally

:

01:03:28,518 --> 01:03:31,378

months later in August of:

:

01:03:32,563 --> 01:03:32,763

St.

:

01:03:32,763 --> 01:03:33,093

Elmo's

:

01:03:33,093 --> 01:03:37,023

fire comes out and they're all

in that too, or not all of them.

:

01:03:37,323 --> 01:03:39,163

I should say Emilio Estevez, Judd Nelson

:

01:03:39,163 --> 01:03:40,233

and Alice Sheedy and all of them,

:

01:03:40,233 --> 01:03:41,763

but yeah.

:

01:03:41,903 --> 01:03:42,903

So they're in their twenties.

:

01:03:43,443 --> 01:03:43,893

Yeah.

:

01:03:44,003 --> 01:03:47,933

Cause they play college graduates

like right out of college in St.

:

01:03:47,933 --> 01:03:48,583

Elmo's fire.

:

01:03:50,183 --> 01:03:53,863

And interestingly enough, John

Hughes recommended all three of them,

:

01:03:53,943 --> 01:03:56,493

including Judd Nelson for their roles.

:

01:03:58,333 --> 01:04:00,203

So I don't know if he did that before,

:

01:04:01,108 --> 01:04:01,478

Ryan Rebalkin: hmm,

:

01:04:01,593 --> 01:04:03,143

Katie: you know, he had

a bad time with Judd.

:

01:04:04,328 --> 01:04:07,318

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, good

point, yeah, I don't know

:

01:04:07,873 --> 01:04:08,163

Katie: Okay.

:

01:04:08,163 --> 01:04:10,143

Bouncing back to the

budget million dollars.

:

01:04:10,623 --> 01:04:14,353

How much do you think this made worldwide?

:

01:04:15,198 --> 01:04:16,428

Ryan Rebalkin: Well, actually I saw them.

:

01:04:16,478 --> 01:04:18,928

Well, I saw the 1 million, but

I didn't put that to memory did

:

01:04:18,938 --> 01:04:21,328

what it made But I think it may

have well, maybe I'm cheating.

:

01:04:21,328 --> 01:04:23,988

I think it was like 85

million or something like that

:

01:04:24,813 --> 01:04:26,023

Katie: 55.

:

01:04:26,023 --> 01:04:26,323

5.

:

01:04:26,603 --> 01:04:28,203

So that's a pretty decent return,

:

01:04:28,213 --> 01:04:28,413

eh?

:

01:04:29,378 --> 01:04:33,303

Ryan Rebalkin: It's amazing

return that's amazing I'd give a

:

01:04:33,303 --> 01:04:34,893

million dollars for 55 in return.

:

01:04:34,893 --> 01:04:36,977

Oh, yes.

:

01:04:37,003 --> 01:04:37,603

Katie: 100%.

:

01:04:37,763 --> 01:04:38,043

Yep.

:

01:04:38,993 --> 01:04:39,333

Yeah.

:

01:04:40,163 --> 01:04:42,683

Did you ever get detention in school?

:

01:04:45,083 --> 01:04:45,333

Did

:

01:04:45,333 --> 01:04:45,943

you?

:

01:04:46,183 --> 01:04:47,883

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, yeah,

I was here's the here.

:

01:04:47,893 --> 01:04:48,183

Yes.

:

01:04:48,183 --> 01:04:51,213

I got the tension, but I was the

that's what I mean so right, but

:

01:04:51,223 --> 01:04:55,633

you said you were You know, you

try to be, I was a class clown.

:

01:04:55,723 --> 01:04:58,403

That's what I got attention for,

for, for disturbing the class.

:

01:04:58,583 --> 01:05:02,213

It was never for beat anyone up

or stealing or starting fires.

:

01:05:02,763 --> 01:05:05,283

I always liked to make the students laugh.

:

01:05:05,283 --> 01:05:09,393

So I tell jokes, I would tell jokes that

maybe weren't very politically correct

:

01:05:09,403 --> 01:05:11,773

even then, but I'd liked a good laugh.

:

01:05:11,823 --> 01:05:13,663

I loved making my classmates laugh.

:

01:05:13,693 --> 01:05:14,213

And so.

:

01:05:14,698 --> 01:05:16,088

Or I just like talking to my neighbor.

:

01:05:16,178 --> 01:05:18,338

I don't have ADHD, but I get bored.

:

01:05:18,418 --> 01:05:20,448

I know it sounds maybe

different, but it's different.

:

01:05:20,458 --> 01:05:21,398

Like I get bored.

:

01:05:21,438 --> 01:05:25,318

And so I'm, I'm listening to the

teacher talk, blather on for eight

:

01:05:25,318 --> 01:05:26,578

hours, eight hours a day, Katie.

:

01:05:26,928 --> 01:05:28,838

And so I'm just like, Oh my gosh, I'm

:

01:05:28,963 --> 01:05:31,363

Katie: Maybe you were just

too advanced for your classes.

:

01:05:31,483 --> 01:05:32,383

you know, that's what they say.

:

01:05:32,383 --> 01:05:34,273

A lot of kids who get in trouble

for stuff like that, it's like

:

01:05:34,273 --> 01:05:35,153

they're not being challenged

:

01:05:36,248 --> 01:05:39,668

Ryan Rebalkin: I, I, I'm not saying

I'm smart, but I never felt like, yeah,

:

01:05:39,678 --> 01:05:42,118

I never felt challenged

in the sense of yeah.

:

01:05:42,118 --> 01:05:43,718

Like I was just like,

I'll study this later.

:

01:05:43,718 --> 01:05:45,458

I never did homework, but

I still got good grades.

:

01:05:45,488 --> 01:05:47,738

So I was just that kind of I just

to have, I like to have fun though.

:

01:05:47,748 --> 01:05:51,498

Like I just, I enjoyed the human

interaction of the world and of my

:

01:05:51,508 --> 01:05:54,698

friends, but so I tell jokes and

things like that, but it wasn't

:

01:05:54,698 --> 01:05:57,728

like every day, all day, like

I wasn't like a moron about it.

:

01:05:57,738 --> 01:06:00,638

Like I was, I was self aware that I

knew I couldn't keep doing this, but

:

01:06:00,638 --> 01:06:03,908

every now and then a joke was too good

enough to say something like, I was

:

01:06:03,908 --> 01:06:06,863

saying, that's what she said, jokes

before, you know, you know, Before the

:

01:06:06,998 --> 01:06:07,598

Katie: Michael.

:

01:06:07,933 --> 01:06:08,273

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah,

:

01:06:08,443 --> 01:06:11,023

like I was doing that kind of humor

that even back this thick very

:

01:06:11,023 --> 01:06:14,183

it's very like innocent But enough

like guys I mean I I had a joke.

:

01:06:14,183 --> 01:06:17,953

I'll tell you off air that I can't use

I'll tell you afterwards remind me.

:

01:06:18,303 --> 01:06:21,403

Um that that comes to mind because

it was the first day of grade

:

01:06:21,403 --> 01:06:22,933

nine social studies It was mr.

:

01:06:22,933 --> 01:06:26,283

Shepherd's class and he had already

had me for grade eight socials.

:

01:06:26,313 --> 01:06:30,683

So he already knew me and He I I was

fooling around or whatever talking

:

01:06:30,683 --> 01:06:32,188

he goes You I'll never forget.

:

01:06:32,188 --> 01:06:33,948

Congratulations, Ryan.

:

01:06:34,318 --> 01:06:36,638

You're the first student I've

ever sent to the principal's

:

01:06:36,638 --> 01:06:37,848

office on the first day of school.

:

01:06:37,848 --> 01:06:41,518

And I'm like, yes, I

clapped as I walked out.

:

01:06:43,698 --> 01:06:46,118

Katie: Now, was your when was

:

01:06:46,118 --> 01:06:47,078

your detention?

:

01:06:47,148 --> 01:06:48,158

Was it on a Saturday?

:

01:06:48,708 --> 01:06:49,148

Yeah.

:

01:06:49,283 --> 01:06:50,023

Ryan Rebalkin: the other

thing I want to talk about.

:

01:06:50,053 --> 01:06:51,063

It was after school.

:

01:06:51,863 --> 01:06:54,473

And cause I love how this teacher

in the, yeah, in the movies, I'm

:

01:06:54,473 --> 01:06:55,263

going to give you next Saturday.

:

01:06:55,263 --> 01:06:57,303

I'm going to, you're going to

spend Saturdays and I'm like, dude,

:

01:06:57,313 --> 01:06:58,593

you're just torturing yourself.

:

01:06:58,643 --> 01:06:59,953

Don't you want a weekend?

:

01:07:00,583 --> 01:07:03,743

I love how the teacher is bored or

the principal, whatever he's like,

:

01:07:03,743 --> 01:07:05,003

he's bored out of his mind too.

:

01:07:05,003 --> 01:07:06,758

They you're actually

just torturing yourself.

:

01:07:07,158 --> 01:07:08,308

Like you're actually

punting like that's what

:

01:07:08,708 --> 01:07:09,128

go ahead.

:

01:07:09,238 --> 01:07:11,818

Katie: there's an assumption that

there'd be there is detention

:

01:07:11,848 --> 01:07:13,988

every Saturday anyway some,

:

01:07:14,038 --> 01:07:15,958

if it's not vendor, it's

someone else in there

:

01:07:15,988 --> 01:07:17,068

Ryan Rebalkin: Well, no, it's open.

:

01:07:17,078 --> 01:07:20,458

It's available Yeah, I guess

they can have rotating like

:

01:07:20,848 --> 01:07:24,308

Katie: I assume that in a real school,

:

01:07:24,308 --> 01:07:25,098

they would rotate

:

01:07:25,428 --> 01:07:27,398

Ryan Rebalkin: Well, that's what

they did for me I knew this I got

:

01:07:27,398 --> 01:07:29,968

a different teacher every time so

I'd have but hey, welcome back.

:

01:07:29,978 --> 01:07:30,178

Mr.

:

01:07:30,178 --> 01:07:34,788

Rebel can as I would go to Detention does

route I'll never forget was room 116 in my

:

01:07:35,153 --> 01:07:36,203

Katie: my God,

:

01:07:38,403 --> 01:07:38,613

that's

:

01:07:38,623 --> 01:07:39,323

wild.

:

01:07:39,788 --> 01:07:43,358

Ryan Rebalkin: So, and I, then,

then Katie, I was the only kid that

:

01:07:43,358 --> 01:07:44,838

ever got kicked out of detention.

:

01:07:45,418 --> 01:07:50,868

I was driving the teachers so crazy

with my talking and humor and jokes,

:

01:07:50,868 --> 01:07:52,358

talking to the other kids in detention.

:

01:07:52,678 --> 01:07:54,138

She says, I can't deal with you.

:

01:07:54,138 --> 01:07:54,838

Just go home.

:

01:07:55,238 --> 01:07:56,808

So I got kicked out of detention.

:

01:07:58,183 --> 01:07:59,563

Katie: They didn't just give you more

:

01:07:59,563 --> 01:08:00,683

detentions like

:

01:08:00,878 --> 01:08:01,498

Ryan Rebalkin: No, they just

:

01:08:01,723 --> 01:08:03,943

Katie: I got you for

the natural born life.

:

01:08:04,108 --> 01:08:06,258

Ryan Rebalkin: it wasn't like

they didn't, they didn't stack.

:

01:08:06,268 --> 01:08:09,138

It was always one, it was always

one punishment, one detention.

:

01:08:09,138 --> 01:08:12,398

It was kind of like, so I would have

to go to detention after school.

:

01:08:12,398 --> 01:08:15,498

And yeah, it was like, and my, my friend

who I'm still best friends with now,

:

01:08:15,498 --> 01:08:19,258

I run that channel with he would come,

he would come up to me after school.

:

01:08:19,308 --> 01:08:20,118

This is how bad it got.

:

01:08:20,118 --> 01:08:22,258

He was, am I walking home with you today?

:

01:08:23,943 --> 01:08:24,093

Katie: do you

:

01:08:24,093 --> 01:08:24,683

have to stay?

:

01:08:25,183 --> 01:08:26,553

Ryan Rebalkin: I mean, do you

have to say it with attention?

:

01:08:26,573 --> 01:08:27,042

Cause he wasn't,

:

01:08:27,093 --> 01:08:27,763

I busted me.

:

01:08:27,763 --> 01:08:28,792

He wasn't going to wait for me.

:

01:08:29,042 --> 01:08:31,533

This is like a half hour, 45

minutes or whatever extra.

:

01:08:31,773 --> 01:08:32,843

So I would just sit in class.

:

01:08:32,863 --> 01:08:35,643

I would just do my homework or

write in my notebook or draw

:

01:08:35,653 --> 01:08:38,493

characters and comics or read a book.

:

01:08:38,493 --> 01:08:39,323

And I didn't care

:

01:08:40,462 --> 01:08:42,393

Katie: Ours was also after school.

:

01:08:42,502 --> 01:08:44,353

So a couple of things with that.

:

01:08:44,372 --> 01:08:44,993

One.

:

01:08:45,598 --> 01:08:49,398

Is the real punishment would

be, you couldn't get detention

:

01:08:49,417 --> 01:08:50,448

because it's after school.

:

01:08:50,478 --> 01:08:54,077

And then that would make you

late for whatever sport practice.

:

01:08:54,478 --> 01:08:56,678

Because at our school sport

practice was immediate.

:

01:08:56,957 --> 01:08:58,127

Immediately following,

:

01:08:58,702 --> 01:08:59,643

Ryan Rebalkin: I got in trouble for that.

:

01:08:59,643 --> 01:09:01,103

My, I was more disappointed.

:

01:09:01,103 --> 01:09:01,943

I disappointed my coach.

:

01:09:01,943 --> 01:09:02,553

I played rugby.

:

01:09:02,553 --> 01:09:04,832

So that did happen where

I'd come late to rugby.

:

01:09:04,832 --> 01:09:05,643

There's still be going on,

:

01:09:05,688 --> 01:09:08,108

Katie: then you'd have, you'd

get punishment probably at

:

01:09:08,108 --> 01:09:08,938

rugby practice, too.

:

01:09:08,988 --> 01:09:09,178

Do you have

:

01:09:09,178 --> 01:09:09,268

to

:

01:09:09,268 --> 01:09:10,457

run extra or something?

:

01:09:10,673 --> 01:09:12,473

Ryan Rebalkin: No, it's just, I

was one of the better players.

:

01:09:12,473 --> 01:09:13,993

We didn't have a great team,

but I was a pretty, I was

:

01:09:13,993 --> 01:09:15,212

always a pretty big teenager.

:

01:09:15,212 --> 01:09:18,523

So it was kind of like,

I just showed up late.

:

01:09:18,533 --> 01:09:22,593

My rugby coach Mr Mr chef

field, rest in peace.

:

01:09:22,663 --> 01:09:24,252

He was a sweetheart of a guy.

:

01:09:24,303 --> 01:09:25,962

Anyways, he would just

roll his eyes at me.

:

01:09:26,863 --> 01:09:27,103

He

:

01:09:27,198 --> 01:09:28,798

Katie: Oh, we would get punished more.

:

01:09:28,827 --> 01:09:29,167

You'd have to

:

01:09:29,167 --> 01:09:32,408

run more extra lines or laps or whatever.

:

01:09:33,488 --> 01:09:35,488

But then and and B.

:

01:09:36,127 --> 01:09:36,698

You like that?

:

01:09:36,788 --> 01:09:37,138

One

:

01:09:37,167 --> 01:09:38,928

Ryan Rebalkin: one in one then be yeah

:

01:09:38,978 --> 01:09:42,928

Katie: I had never heard

of Saturday detention.

:

01:09:43,008 --> 01:09:43,428

Is this a

:

01:09:43,428 --> 01:09:43,868

thing?

:

01:09:44,008 --> 01:09:44,827

Please, anyone

:

01:09:44,827 --> 01:09:45,218

out there

:

01:09:45,228 --> 01:09:45,788

in the world.

:

01:09:45,877 --> 01:09:48,127

Ryan Rebalkin: the States I thought

I was maybe a States thing cuz I'm

:

01:09:48,327 --> 01:09:51,528

Katie: It wasn't for, I mean,

granted again, I went to a Catholic

:

01:09:51,528 --> 01:09:55,728

school, but I really, I'm very

curious if Saturday detention exists

:

01:09:55,758 --> 01:09:56,318

anywhere.

:

01:09:57,018 --> 01:09:57,278

Please

:

01:09:57,358 --> 01:09:57,608

Ryan Rebalkin: again.

:

01:09:57,608 --> 01:10:02,218

I feel like I feel I feel like

you're punching the staff As well

:

01:10:02,268 --> 01:10:05,668

and if the parents driving you to

school for both that really sucks.

:

01:10:05,758 --> 01:10:06,077

I think it's

:

01:10:06,083 --> 01:10:07,763

Katie: And it was, it's a 9 hour day.

:

01:10:07,813 --> 01:10:08,683

It's longer than a

:

01:10:08,683 --> 01:10:09,443

school day.

:

01:10:09,788 --> 01:10:10,868

Ryan Rebalkin: that's that's the part.

:

01:10:10,868 --> 01:10:11,577

I found insane.

:

01:10:11,588 --> 01:10:12,818

I don't even know if that's legal

:

01:10:13,503 --> 01:10:14,693

Katie: It was like 7.

:

01:10:14,693 --> 01:10:14,933

30 to

:

01:10:15,773 --> 01:10:16,263

7.

:

01:10:16,263 --> 01:10:16,668

00 to 4.

:

01:10:16,668 --> 01:10:16,803

00.

:

01:10:16,928 --> 01:10:17,648

Ryan Rebalkin: breakfast to lunch.

:

01:10:17,648 --> 01:10:19,178

I'm sorry breakfast to supper essentially.

:

01:10:19,178 --> 01:10:19,358

Yeah

:

01:10:21,763 --> 01:10:22,873

Katie: yeah, I mean, growing up.

:

01:10:22,873 --> 01:10:26,683

, this came out in:

but I probably didn't see it until,

:

01:10:27,213 --> 01:10:30,202

you know, however many years

it took for it to come on TV

:

01:10:30,663 --> 01:10:32,843

and we had a taped version.

:

01:10:32,933 --> 01:10:35,363

So I grew up watching the made the

:

01:10:35,363 --> 01:10:38,533

edited for TV versions.

:

01:10:38,998 --> 01:10:44,158

So much so that when I finally saw the

real version, I was like, oh, he says

:

01:10:44,248 --> 01:10:49,338

for example, the, the, there's some

extra footage in the edited for TV

:

01:10:49,608 --> 01:10:53,128

version there, because they

had to cut so much else out.

:

01:10:53,548 --> 01:10:55,408

There's some extra

footage in that version.

:

01:10:55,818 --> 01:10:58,768

And then when I watch the real version,

I'm like, wait, where's that scene

:

01:10:58,788 --> 01:11:03,998

that's cut out for example, when

they collect money to go get sodas.

:

01:11:04,628 --> 01:11:10,178

And Brian thinks when a vendor reaches

his handout, he thinks he wants a slap,

:

01:11:10,178 --> 01:11:14,478

like a high 5 or something and then he

is embarrassed and he gets him money.

:

01:11:14,478 --> 01:11:19,827

And there's a few other things like that

that also when vendor says, fuck you.

:

01:11:20,138 --> 01:11:22,628

After they have that whole I got you

:

01:11:22,628 --> 01:11:25,258

for your natural born life 2 months.

:

01:11:25,468 --> 01:11:29,898

The edited for TV version says filled you

:

01:11:30,418 --> 01:11:31,868

and I grew up watching that version

:

01:11:32,058 --> 01:11:33,088

Ryan Rebalkin: filled you

:

01:11:33,318 --> 01:11:33,878

Katie: filled.

:

01:11:34,708 --> 01:11:36,198

Ryan Rebalkin: with what that's even

:

01:11:36,418 --> 01:11:36,928

Katie: I don't know.

:

01:11:37,018 --> 01:11:38,038

I never I don't know.

:

01:11:38,048 --> 01:11:38,808

This is what I'm saying.

:

01:11:38,808 --> 01:11:39,248

I grew up.

:

01:11:39,538 --> 01:11:43,738

So I, I, I, and there were so many

things that I didn't understand

:

01:11:44,408 --> 01:11:45,728

because I wasn't a teenager.

:

01:11:45,768 --> 01:11:45,888

I

:

01:11:45,888 --> 01:11:49,288

was, I was like, a 7 year old watching

:

01:11:49,288 --> 01:11:49,648

this

:

01:11:50,338 --> 01:11:50,738

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, that's

:

01:11:50,888 --> 01:11:52,048

Katie: and totally didn't understand.

:

01:11:52,308 --> 01:11:54,718

Ryan Rebalkin: I think i've only

seen the theatrical but I never saw

:

01:11:54,718 --> 01:11:58,323

some tv that I can remember I said

that i'm sure I flipped through it,

:

01:11:58,323 --> 01:12:01,643

but I think I've only fully watched

this now three times my whole life.

:

01:12:01,643 --> 01:12:04,743

It's not like it's a, saw it when

it first came out, saw it again

:

01:12:04,743 --> 01:12:07,073

out of curiosity and then saw it

for the show, for this podcast.

:

01:12:07,273 --> 01:12:07,533

Yeah.

:

01:12:07,653 --> 01:12:08,943

Katie: Oh, wow.

:

01:12:08,973 --> 01:12:09,803

That I,

:

01:12:09,823 --> 01:12:10,273

that's,

:

01:12:11,123 --> 01:12:11,763

Ryan Rebalkin: That's why it hit

:

01:12:11,843 --> 01:12:12,202

Katie: I don't know.

:

01:12:12,343 --> 01:12:12,533

I'm

:

01:12:12,533 --> 01:12:13,393

kind of surprised.

:

01:12:13,423 --> 01:12:15,413

Ryan Rebalkin: a, as a,

as a fuller grown adult.

:

01:12:15,443 --> 01:12:18,103

I haven't probably, that's what, I

probably haven't seen this in 25 years.

:

01:12:19,443 --> 01:12:20,333

Katie: Really?

:

01:12:20,793 --> 01:12:22,452

I watched this at least once

:

01:12:22,452 --> 01:12:22,983

a year.

:

01:12:23,383 --> 01:12:25,763

I think I've seen this movie 50 times at

:

01:12:26,077 --> 01:12:26,548

Ryan Rebalkin: Okay.

:

01:12:26,838 --> 01:12:27,868

Well, I, I love it.

:

01:12:27,918 --> 01:12:28,738

Let me be clear.

:

01:12:28,908 --> 01:12:30,098

My one question about Judd.

:

01:12:30,128 --> 01:12:30,758

That's what I mean.

:

01:12:30,758 --> 01:12:35,258

That's why I have, I, I felt it jarring

after maybe 25 years not seeing the film.

:

01:12:35,258 --> 01:12:37,158

Oh, I don't know how much

I like that performance.

:

01:12:37,158 --> 01:12:37,528

That's all.

:

01:12:37,528 --> 01:12:40,827

After 25 years of watching films

and other performances, it struck me

:

01:12:41,168 --> 01:12:44,788

objectively speaking, if I was a director,

I might've told him to tone it down.

:

01:12:44,788 --> 01:12:46,598

I might've approached

that part differently.

:

01:12:46,658 --> 01:12:46,998

That's all.

:

01:12:47,883 --> 01:12:53,653

Katie: Was there any particular

characters arc that you related to most?

:

01:12:55,923 --> 01:12:56,853

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, that's a good question.

:

01:12:56,973 --> 01:12:58,343

hate when people say that's

a good question because

:

01:12:58,343 --> 01:12:58,952

you're just trying to collect

:

01:12:58,973 --> 01:13:01,123

Katie: how they started

the movie versus how they

:

01:13:01,123 --> 01:13:02,063

ended, you know,

:

01:13:02,143 --> 01:13:05,593

Ryan Rebalkin: well, I know that I

Because i've seen it before and I know

:

01:13:05,593 --> 01:13:08,693

the storyline enough to know that yes,

they'll kind of change their views There's

:

01:13:09,013 --> 01:13:11,813

they'll understand each other better.

:

01:13:11,813 --> 01:13:15,563

And I think what I found interesting

and the most heartbreaking of

:

01:13:15,563 --> 01:13:19,138

the film And might not really be

answering your question, but the

:

01:13:19,138 --> 01:13:22,968

arc of all the characters that was

mentioned by them was like, Oh, I

:

01:13:22,968 --> 01:13:24,808

will not ignore you in the hallways.

:

01:13:24,827 --> 01:13:27,478

I will not, I promise you, I will not.

:

01:13:27,948 --> 01:13:32,128

And we never see the outcome of those

promises, but having gone through high

:

01:13:32,128 --> 01:13:36,648

school and we do this, we promise so

much when we're young and we just,

:

01:13:36,668 --> 01:13:40,918

we're so romantic about our promises

when we were young, I guarantee you,

:

01:13:40,918 --> 01:13:44,918

they went back to normal, that they,

They, they fell back into the tropes

:

01:13:44,928 --> 01:13:47,098

again of survival in the hallways.

:

01:13:47,108 --> 01:13:51,698

You know, they go back to their

tribe as they would say, and not

:

01:13:51,698 --> 01:13:52,978

that they were mean to each other.

:

01:13:52,978 --> 01:13:55,818

There might've been a passing glance

or a knowing nod in the hallway,

:

01:13:56,398 --> 01:13:59,498

but how I'll never ignore you in

the hallway again and stuff Like,

:

01:13:59,603 --> 01:14:00,423

Katie: Well, they don't actually

:

01:14:00,423 --> 01:14:00,993

say that.

:

01:14:01,013 --> 01:14:01,243

What's

:

01:14:01,678 --> 01:14:05,308

Ryan Rebalkin: I swear, I swear these, I

thought they said, I'll never ignore you.

:

01:14:05,388 --> 01:14:06,968

Am I missing the shoot?

:

01:14:07,058 --> 01:14:07,258

I'm

:

01:14:07,393 --> 01:14:13,333

Katie: so so in the circle, we

establish that Claire and Andy.

:

01:14:14,273 --> 01:14:18,523

Would both ignore and even vendor,

they're like, you wouldn't ignore us.

:

01:14:19,723 --> 01:14:23,663

She's like, yeah, I would, I would

say, hi, I would be nice to your face.

:

01:14:23,663 --> 01:14:25,993

And as soon as you walked off, I

would, you know, make fun of you.

:

01:14:25,993 --> 01:14:29,233

So my friends didn't think

I really liked you and then,

:

01:14:29,313 --> 01:14:31,233

but they continue to develop.

:

01:14:31,603 --> 01:14:32,783

The friendship over the time.

:

01:14:32,783 --> 01:14:33,493

And so we make an

:

01:14:33,493 --> 01:14:34,483

assumption.

:

01:14:34,813 --> 01:14:36,093

Plus, then there's some

:

01:14:36,093 --> 01:14:37,423

couple dumb, right?

:

01:14:37,423 --> 01:14:38,543

There's 2 couples now.

:

01:14:39,543 --> 01:14:42,933

Well, Anthony said, I would never

do that to you me and Allison are

:

01:14:42,933 --> 01:14:44,923

better people than you because

I would never do that to you.

:

01:14:45,083 --> 01:14:46,833

And Claire says, that's

because you look up to

:

01:14:46,833 --> 01:14:47,223

us.

:

01:14:47,898 --> 01:14:48,528

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, that's right.

:

01:14:48,538 --> 01:14:48,978

My bad.

:

01:14:49,038 --> 01:14:49,308

Okay.

:

01:14:49,308 --> 01:14:50,968

I thought I was taking it as okay.

:

01:14:50,968 --> 01:14:52,088

I misinterpreted the two

:

01:14:52,228 --> 01:14:55,648

Katie: No, it's just that the,

the Allison doesn't have friends

:

01:14:55,698 --> 01:15:00,718

and Brian's friends are, you know,

they're not the popular kids.

:

01:15:00,718 --> 01:15:04,938

And so, but then, you know, the

rest of the movie, we see them

:

01:15:05,138 --> 01:15:06,538

become closer and better friends.

:

01:15:06,538 --> 01:15:08,028

And so there's an assumption.

:

01:15:09,283 --> 01:15:11,583

Especially considering that Claire and

:

01:15:11,583 --> 01:15:17,403

Bender, Kit, you know, they, they

get together and so do Emilio, I

:

01:15:17,403 --> 01:15:20,123

always do this, Andrew, and Allison.

:

01:15:20,728 --> 01:15:21,077

Ryan Rebalkin: I will.

:

01:15:21,378 --> 01:15:21,708

Okay.

:

01:15:21,708 --> 01:15:24,868

So what I'll say about the funny

enough, my least favorite transition.

:

01:15:24,908 --> 01:15:26,148

Maybe that's a better

answer to your question.

:

01:15:26,198 --> 01:15:27,577

I apologize to our dear listeners.

:

01:15:27,577 --> 01:15:30,278

I misunderstood the I'll never

ignore you in the hallway topic.

:

01:15:30,588 --> 01:15:31,748

I thought that was a future statement.

:

01:15:31,808 --> 01:15:32,168

I got you.

:

01:15:32,228 --> 01:15:32,548

I got.

:

01:15:32,548 --> 01:15:33,348

Yeah, I remember.

:

01:15:33,788 --> 01:15:36,108

I liked Ally Sheen's character better.

:

01:15:36,278 --> 01:15:37,028

I didn't like her dress.

:

01:15:37,188 --> 01:15:38,408

Her makeover was terrible.

:

01:15:38,858 --> 01:15:39,508

I liked it

:

01:15:39,673 --> 01:15:41,233

Katie: Oh, you didn't

think she looked beautiful?

:

01:15:41,952 --> 01:15:42,143

she

:

01:15:42,143 --> 01:15:42,523

really did

:

01:15:42,528 --> 01:15:47,238

Ryan Rebalkin: I Liked I would have

dated the the other version better.

:

01:15:47,248 --> 01:15:53,958

I think I was more attracted in a funny

way to the the bangs in her face now, I

:

01:15:54,053 --> 01:15:55,533

Katie: You couldn't see her face.

:

01:15:55,723 --> 01:15:58,353

Ryan Rebalkin: Well, it's the, no,

it's, it's, it, this might've been the

:

01:15:58,353 --> 01:15:59,952

film that started that trope, right.

:

01:16:00,003 --> 01:16:00,763

Of the eighties.

:

01:16:00,827 --> 01:16:01,758

know, yeah,

:

01:16:01,758 --> 01:16:03,028

take off the glasses, do her hair.

:

01:16:03,028 --> 01:16:03,668

Now she's pretty.

:

01:16:03,668 --> 01:16:04,868

She's been there the whole time.

:

01:16:04,958 --> 01:16:04,968

Emilia,

:

01:16:05,593 --> 01:16:08,863

Katie: it did start that,

but yeah, really more of it.

:

01:16:08,863 --> 01:16:10,223

And that's what Andrew says.

:

01:16:10,223 --> 01:16:11,123

He's like, oh, I can see your

:

01:16:11,133 --> 01:16:12,013

face now.

:

01:16:12,023 --> 01:16:13,403

Like I didn't realize how

:

01:16:13,458 --> 01:16:15,818

Ryan Rebalkin: her face throughout the,

but I saw the face throughout the movie.

:

01:16:15,818 --> 01:16:17,098

I, I, she's there.

:

01:16:17,508 --> 01:16:21,338

I, I kind of liked her look better

than the, the, the, the, pretty, the

:

01:16:21,338 --> 01:16:23,308

pretty, in pink look did nothing for me.

:

01:16:23,348 --> 01:16:25,888

I don't know, but that's just funny.

:

01:16:26,098 --> 01:16:27,538

No, I mean, I guess.

:

01:16:28,893 --> 01:16:30,283

Um, I guess I'll go back to Anthony.

:

01:16:30,283 --> 01:16:33,323

I just really liked that moment again

in that circle when he broke down and

:

01:16:33,323 --> 01:16:34,863

talked about how he feels pressure too.

:

01:16:34,863 --> 01:16:38,773

I think that was a great arc that we

see, even though he's, he's succeeding

:

01:16:38,813 --> 01:16:42,313

because, you know, we saw Judd's character

big, Oh, you're, this is your family.

:

01:16:42,313 --> 01:16:43,213

Oh, he's such a great kid.

:

01:16:43,213 --> 01:16:43,923

He's such a great kid.

:

01:16:43,973 --> 01:16:44,753

Don't we have a great kid?

:

01:16:44,753 --> 01:16:46,093

Hugs and kisses the husband and wife.

:

01:16:46,553 --> 01:16:48,503

And you know, he's

criticizing the stable home.

:

01:16:48,593 --> 01:16:50,653

Ironically, that's a bad

thing, which I had argued.

:

01:16:50,653 --> 01:16:51,483

It's not a bad thing.

:

01:16:51,483 --> 01:16:54,853

But the kid is still says, no, I

still have pressure and undo pressure.

:

01:16:55,143 --> 01:16:58,633

And then we get to the whole suicide

talk, which is like, Whoa, this is

:

01:16:58,753 --> 01:17:01,202

none of these guys that you, none

of these other characters talked

:

01:17:01,202 --> 01:17:02,293

about never taking their own life.

:

01:17:02,303 --> 01:17:03,823

But here we have the one

person that everyone thinks,

:

01:17:03,823 --> 01:17:04,923

Oh, his home life is great.

:

01:17:04,923 --> 01:17:05,293

All this stuff.

:

01:17:05,293 --> 01:17:08,853

He's smart in class, but he has

so much pressure and expectations.

:

01:17:08,853 --> 01:17:10,983

Ironically, though,

they're good expectations.

:

01:17:11,813 --> 01:17:16,483

He's feeling like he can't measure up that

if I don't succeed, I'm better off dead.

:

01:17:16,978 --> 01:17:19,808

And that's obviously the wrong message,

too, that he's getting from his parents.

:

01:17:20,258 --> 01:17:22,798

So it's a fascinating study, really.

:

01:17:22,993 --> 01:17:23,473

Katie: is.

:

01:17:23,653 --> 01:17:26,743

And again, the movie balances, like that's

:

01:17:26,743 --> 01:17:27,483

heavy shit.

:

01:17:27,623 --> 01:17:29,983

And then they balance it with the humor of

:

01:17:30,483 --> 01:17:31,253

the flare gun,

:

01:17:31,253 --> 01:17:31,713

and how

:

01:17:31,773 --> 01:17:33,263

Ryan Rebalkin: ironically

that would kill you

:

01:17:34,513 --> 01:17:35,452

Katie: I wondered.

:

01:17:35,723 --> 01:17:36,823

Ryan Rebalkin: No, I'm

telling you right now.

:

01:17:36,823 --> 01:17:37,143

You

:

01:17:37,153 --> 01:17:38,063

shoot a clerk.

:

01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:39,063

Yes, and I

:

01:17:39,063 --> 01:17:40,063

thought I get it.

:

01:17:40,063 --> 01:17:42,133

It's a flare gun They should have

said something like it was a pellet

:

01:17:42,133 --> 01:17:48,173

gun or something like a potato gun or

something like that That would have

:

01:17:48,173 --> 01:17:51,563

been more humorous because you can't

kill yourself with a potato gun It would

:

01:17:51,623 --> 01:17:53,913

sting and bleed and embed in your skin.

:

01:17:53,923 --> 01:17:54,543

Sure, but it wouldn't

:

01:17:54,628 --> 01:17:55,958

Katie: don't even know

what a potato gun is.

:

01:17:55,958 --> 01:17:57,198

I've never even heard of that.

:

01:17:57,633 --> 01:17:58,713

Ryan Rebalkin: it shoots potato pellets.

:

01:17:58,713 --> 01:18:00,183

Like a, like an air BB gun.

:

01:18:00,183 --> 01:18:01,303

It shoots potato pellets.

:

01:18:01,753 --> 01:18:02,043

this is

:

01:18:02,248 --> 01:18:03,668

Katie: pieces of potato.

:

01:18:03,893 --> 01:18:04,653

Ryan Rebalkin: you would actually buy it.

:

01:18:04,663 --> 01:18:09,753

You'd actually get a potato, shove the

muzzle of the handgun into the potato,

:

01:18:09,983 --> 01:18:12,493

crunch it around, and then you shoot

the potato pellet out of the gun.

:

01:18:13,148 --> 01:18:14,148

Katie: Never even heard of this.

:

01:18:14,148 --> 01:18:14,348

That's

:

01:18:14,358 --> 01:18:14,827

hilarious.

:

01:18:15,438 --> 01:18:17,428

Ryan Rebalkin: Anyways,

so flare gun to the head.

:

01:18:17,438 --> 01:18:19,058

Do not do that folks.

:

01:18:19,198 --> 01:18:22,488

It will, if it doesn't kill you,

it'll burn your face quite a bit.

:

01:18:22,518 --> 01:18:24,338

It's going to, it's the damages.

:

01:18:24,858 --> 01:18:26,077

I would, I would not recommend it,,

:

01:18:27,178 --> 01:18:28,678

Katie: so he got detention for that.

:

01:18:29,258 --> 01:18:30,308

Ryan Rebalkin: Weird, which is weird.

:

01:18:30,318 --> 01:18:31,358

You should get mental health

:

01:18:31,438 --> 01:18:33,878

Katie: Exactly, but I think it

was because it ended up like

:

01:18:33,878 --> 01:18:38,118

damaging school property because it

showed his like burned out locker

:

01:18:38,118 --> 01:18:39,138

and he got detention for

:

01:18:39,338 --> 01:18:39,858

Ryan Rebalkin: Sure.

:

01:18:39,888 --> 01:18:44,868

Katie: Andrews, I thought

watching it now, like in.

:

01:18:45,288 --> 01:18:48,958

Especially how he describes him

torturing this kid, this hairy kid

:

01:18:49,008 --> 01:18:51,558

he, that's, like, straight up assault.

:

01:18:51,558 --> 01:18:55,718

Wouldn't that land you in prison

and not detention, Andrew's reason

:

01:18:55,718 --> 01:18:56,758

For, being in detention?

:

01:18:56,818 --> 01:18:57,898

Ryan Rebalkin: For, for what?

:

01:18:57,898 --> 01:18:59,588

For the tied up the bum bum

:

01:19:00,577 --> 01:19:00,928

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:19:01,077 --> 01:19:02,938

Yeah, because he said pieces of skin

:

01:19:02,938 --> 01:19:03,948

came off with the

:

01:19:03,963 --> 01:19:05,782

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, I

was a little yeah, sure.

:

01:19:05,923 --> 01:19:07,223

Probably not as much as he was saying.

:

01:19:07,223 --> 01:19:09,573

Cause he, this is like a

waxy with duct tape, I guess.

:

01:19:09,583 --> 01:19:11,433

But no jail.

:

01:19:11,433 --> 01:19:12,993

No, I'll see what, what here's

:

01:19:13,008 --> 01:19:14,938

Katie: But that's, like, an assault, isn't

:

01:19:14,943 --> 01:19:15,202

Ryan Rebalkin: yeah.

:

01:19:15,202 --> 01:19:16,383

So the you're right.

:

01:19:16,423 --> 01:19:19,073

This is where our:

glasses are looking at

:

01:19:19,073 --> 01:19:19,943

85 behavior.

:

01:19:19,943 --> 01:19:22,263

Hazing and sports was commonplace.

:

01:19:23,053 --> 01:19:24,293

It was never criminal back then.

:

01:19:24,343 --> 01:19:25,133

It is now.

:

01:19:25,202 --> 01:19:27,443

And they've really,

well, I say that, but I.

:

01:19:28,058 --> 01:19:28,678

I don't want to speak out

:

01:19:28,678 --> 01:19:29,288

of turn, but I

:

01:19:29,288 --> 01:19:31,028

would dare say I think

hazing still happens.

:

01:19:31,088 --> 01:19:31,928

It still happens.

:

01:19:32,488 --> 01:19:36,768

Hazing in sports, especially male

sports, in all honesty, is a real thing.

:

01:19:36,888 --> 01:19:38,068

There's many stories.

:

01:19:38,068 --> 01:19:39,327

Go to Reddit, go anywhere.

:

01:19:39,718 --> 01:19:41,168

It's a real thing.

:

01:19:41,198 --> 01:19:42,898

And boys are brutal with each other.

:

01:19:42,928 --> 01:19:43,248

So,

:

01:19:45,398 --> 01:19:45,948

Katie: Fair point.

:

01:19:46,128 --> 01:19:46,628

Fair point.

:

01:19:48,238 --> 01:19:51,268

Now, originally, there was supposed

to be three girls and three boys.

:

01:19:51,933 --> 01:19:55,702

So what stereotype do you

feel like was missing, or

:

01:19:55,843 --> 01:19:56,833

is there one that you can

:

01:19:56,843 --> 01:19:57,523

think of that you would

:

01:19:57,568 --> 01:19:58,128

Ryan Rebalkin: Great question.

:

01:19:58,128 --> 01:19:58,308

I

:

01:19:58,618 --> 01:20:00,718

kind of wish you, not, I

wish you asked me earlier.

:

01:20:01,098 --> 01:20:03,018

Cause that's a great, again,

that's a great question.

:

01:20:03,018 --> 01:20:05,688

Let me, let me delay the answer

by saying that's a great question.

:

01:20:05,988 --> 01:20:06,468

Oh, that's a

:

01:20:06,543 --> 01:20:08,883

Katie: You know, so we've got,

we've got the Jacques, the popular

:

01:20:08,883 --> 01:20:09,603

girl,

:

01:20:10,598 --> 01:20:13,108

Ryan Rebalkin: What was, so what

would be Anthony's girl, so to speak?

:

01:20:13,108 --> 01:20:14,218

What would be the,

:

01:20:18,208 --> 01:20:20,308

you could almost argue for him.

:

01:20:20,618 --> 01:20:20,778

It

:

01:20:20,778 --> 01:20:21,378

could be,

:

01:20:21,407 --> 01:20:22,907

Katie: Theater kid, maybe.

:

01:20:23,498 --> 01:20:23,657

Ryan Rebalkin: yeah.

:

01:20:23,657 --> 01:20:25,388

But a theater kid and

a nerd would get along.

:

01:20:25,968 --> 01:20:26,508

It's kind of a

:

01:20:26,698 --> 01:20:27,748

Katie: No, I know, but they're different.

:

01:20:27,758 --> 01:20:29,068

He's in the physics club, the

:

01:20:29,728 --> 01:20:30,198

physics

:

01:20:30,488 --> 01:20:31,038

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah.

:

01:20:31,038 --> 01:20:34,558

Katie: I'm just saying I'm trying

to think too, what stereotype of

:

01:20:34,558 --> 01:20:36,748

high school was not represented.

:

01:20:39,988 --> 01:20:40,577

Yeah, I'm saying

:

01:20:40,577 --> 01:20:41,738

Theater kid, you

:

01:20:41,738 --> 01:20:42,138

guys out

:

01:20:42,193 --> 01:20:43,103

Ryan Rebalkin: kid's not bad.

:

01:20:43,508 --> 01:20:45,038

Katie: what stereotypes are we missing?

:

01:20:45,048 --> 01:20:47,248

Because 3rd person

:

01:20:49,448 --> 01:20:50,178

or a 3rd girl.

:

01:20:50,178 --> 01:20:50,508

I mean,

:

01:20:51,053 --> 01:20:52,603

Ryan Rebalkin: you could

have the one foreign student.

:

01:20:52,613 --> 01:20:54,103

There you go, the

foreign exchange student.

:

01:20:55,228 --> 01:20:56,077

Katie: speaking of 16

:

01:20:56,077 --> 01:20:56,648

candles.

:

01:20:56,648 --> 01:20:57,028

Yeah.

:

01:20:57,028 --> 01:20:57,407

Yeah,

:

01:20:57,933 --> 01:20:58,413

Ryan Rebalkin: I don't know.

:

01:20:58,643 --> 01:20:59,463

Yeah, interesting.

:

01:20:59,473 --> 01:21:00,532

That's a good question.

:

01:21:01,123 --> 01:21:02,333

Let us know folks.

:

01:21:03,253 --> 01:21:04,673

Katie: Yeah, okay.

:

01:21:04,683 --> 01:21:05,623

Let's talk one liners.

:

01:21:05,633 --> 01:21:08,952

Let's talk the epic dialogue.

:

01:21:09,013 --> 01:21:09,683

What are

:

01:21:09,683 --> 01:21:13,183

some things like I laughed

out loud in a few places

:

01:21:13,363 --> 01:21:13,702

or

:

01:21:13,702 --> 01:21:15,003

just memorable lines?

:

01:21:15,003 --> 01:21:16,743

What do you what do you recall?

:

01:21:18,423 --> 01:21:19,563

Ryan Rebalkin: you're gonna

have to leave this one.

:

01:21:19,563 --> 01:21:21,643

I don't, I don't have any

memory to be honest with you.

:

01:21:21,673 --> 01:21:23,163

But go ahead and start and I'll,

:

01:21:23,163 --> 01:21:28,873

Katie: so, 1 of the things that I, because

it was so 80s, because I can remember, but

:

01:21:28,883 --> 01:21:31,793

face as an insult cracked me

:

01:21:31,843 --> 01:21:32,123

up.

:

01:21:32,178 --> 01:21:32,388

Mm

:

01:21:33,058 --> 01:21:34,848

Ryan Rebalkin: See, I knew

you'd trigger my brain.

:

01:21:35,248 --> 01:21:36,738

When he said, eat my shorts.

:

01:21:37,668 --> 01:21:38,148

Katie: hmm.

:

01:21:38,358 --> 01:21:38,938

Ryan Rebalkin: started with that?

:

01:21:38,938 --> 01:21:40,508

I don't know if that was ever said before.

:

01:21:40,508 --> 01:21:47,077

I wonder if that term on film media

was said in a, because of course

:

01:21:47,077 --> 01:21:49,038

that was attributed to who later on.

:

01:21:49,938 --> 01:21:50,758

Katie: Bart Simpson.

:

01:21:50,938 --> 01:21:54,878

It so because I did research

for the trivia questions for all

:

01:21:54,878 --> 01:21:56,498

of the time capsule segments,

:

01:21:56,888 --> 01:21:57,278

Ryan Rebalkin: Okay.

:

01:21:57,478 --> 01:22:00,978

Katie: eat my shorts did become

popularized in the mid 80s

:

01:22:01,748 --> 01:22:02,028

as a

:

01:22:02,028 --> 01:22:02,448

saying

:

01:22:03,143 --> 01:22:05,963

Ryan Rebalkin: so Bart though, but

I would say if you were to ask me

:

01:22:05,963 --> 01:22:07,613

before this movie rewatch, right?

:

01:22:07,613 --> 01:22:08,563

Like I said, it's been a while.

:

01:22:10,343 --> 01:22:14,032

Ryan, who popularized

the term eat my shorts?

:

01:22:14,043 --> 01:22:15,723

I would answer right away Bart Simpson.

:

01:22:15,778 --> 01:22:17,478

Katie: Sure as a

character, but it was yeah,

:

01:22:17,478 --> 01:22:18,498

like in you know,

:

01:22:18,888 --> 01:22:21,368

Ryan Rebalkin: okay, so what I'm

saying is, this is a big film.

:

01:22:21,407 --> 01:22:22,848

It's an iconic film through the decades.

:

01:22:22,848 --> 01:22:25,398

So even before Simpsons

came out, I think it was 89.

:

01:22:25,398 --> 01:22:26,028

That's what I'm getting at.

:

01:22:26,028 --> 01:22:30,868

So I'm wondering, had this not

been said in this film, would

:

01:22:30,878 --> 01:22:33,907

Bart Simpson be saying, eat my

shorts in the animation series?

:

01:22:33,918 --> 01:22:36,157

I'm just curious what the

carryover would have been.

:

01:22:36,407 --> 01:22:37,128

Katie: good question.

:

01:22:37,498 --> 01:22:37,948

Ryan Rebalkin: yeah,

:

01:22:38,708 --> 01:22:39,918

Katie: That's that's a good question.

:

01:22:40,238 --> 01:22:44,198

There are just so many memorable lines

and 1 liners from this movie that

:

01:22:44,198 --> 01:22:49,488

that 1 maybe didn't stand out as much,

but I laughed out loud at butt face.

:

01:22:49,818 --> 01:22:55,098

I laughed out loud at uh, Dick

uh, rich, excuse me, rich will

:

01:22:55,108 --> 01:22:56,618

milk be made available to us.

:

01:22:57,018 --> 01:22:58,508

I love like that.

:

01:22:58,628 --> 01:23:01,178

Brian saying he has a

girlfriend that lives in

:

01:23:01,178 --> 01:23:01,888

Canada

:

01:23:02,458 --> 01:23:03,918

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, I got, I

:

01:23:04,228 --> 01:23:08,258

Katie: Yeah, That's like a trope

though, in like dorky American

:

01:23:08,258 --> 01:23:13,638

kids trying to claim that they,

you know, aren't a virgin.

:

01:23:14,228 --> 01:23:15,688

They're like, Oh, I have a girlfriend.

:

01:23:15,827 --> 01:23:17,068

She lives in Canada.

:

01:23:17,130 --> 01:23:18,613

Ryan Rebalkin: in Japan, Yeah.

:

01:23:19,023 --> 01:23:23,133

The line when Andrew asks,

what do you need a fake ID for?

:

01:23:23,153 --> 01:23:24,233

And he says, so I can vote.

:

01:23:24,293 --> 01:23:26,013

That was Anthony Michael Hall improv.

:

01:23:26,113 --> 01:23:27,273

He ad libbed that, yeah.

:

01:23:27,343 --> 01:23:28,593

That's a great ad lib, by the way.

:

01:23:28,623 --> 01:23:28,973

Cause it

:

01:23:28,993 --> 01:23:30,073

totally fits his character.

:

01:23:30,083 --> 01:23:31,443

Shows that he's thinking

like his character

:

01:23:31,493 --> 01:23:34,133

Katie: but it made him,

it made him, 68 instead of

:

01:23:34,393 --> 01:23:35,983

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, I love that.

:

01:23:35,983 --> 01:23:38,313

Sure.

:

01:23:38,313 --> 01:23:40,543

Katie: the hot beef injection.

:

01:23:41,213 --> 01:23:43,633

I remember not understanding

what that meant

:

01:23:43,923 --> 01:23:44,553

as a kid.

:

01:23:44,952 --> 01:23:45,583

I was like, what?

:

01:23:45,773 --> 01:23:46,763

That's I don't get it.

:

01:23:46,803 --> 01:23:47,583

Ryan Rebalkin: It's a sandwich.

:

01:23:49,113 --> 01:23:50,683

Katie: this ain't no rest home.

:

01:23:50,843 --> 01:23:51,813

Love that one.

:

01:23:53,023 --> 01:23:55,173

And when they're talking

about the virginity.

:

01:23:55,998 --> 01:23:59,418

And Bender says to Brian, well,

Brian, it doesn't sound like

:

01:23:59,418 --> 01:24:00,778

you're doing any business.

:

01:24:01,308 --> 01:24:04,948

Then when they're having lunch,

we have to have a discussion

:

01:24:04,948 --> 01:24:07,068

about the lunch Bender slaps.

:

01:24:07,943 --> 01:24:11,383

Brian's hand out of the way when he's

like getting his stuff out of the bag and

:

01:24:11,383 --> 01:24:13,202

like looking at, well, what are we having

:

01:24:13,202 --> 01:24:13,923

for lunch today?

:

01:24:14,183 --> 01:24:19,813

He slaps his hand when he is looking at

the apple juice and he says, I can read.

:

01:24:22,073 --> 01:24:25,863

Without trigonometry, there'd

be no engineering without lamps.

:

01:24:26,003 --> 01:24:27,333

There'd be no light.

:

01:24:27,473 --> 01:24:27,683

I

:

01:24:28,113 --> 01:24:30,003

like, these are again, half of those are,

:

01:24:30,073 --> 01:24:31,003

are, bender.

:

01:24:31,143 --> 01:24:31,563

Ryan Rebalkin: It's the same.

:

01:24:31,593 --> 01:24:33,773

Yeah, the lot like, yeah,

a lot of the strong lines.

:

01:24:33,873 --> 01:24:35,163

I thought it was good again.

:

01:24:35,713 --> 01:24:38,513

My least favorite doesn't mean I enjoy.

:

01:24:38,523 --> 01:24:39,763

Hey, he was great.

:

01:24:39,793 --> 01:24:41,103

He was great for the record.

:

01:24:41,123 --> 01:24:45,993

He was great, but it was just I found

myself cringing a little bit more

:

01:24:45,993 --> 01:24:48,873

than I thought I was going to some of

the delivery of some of the scenes.

:

01:24:48,873 --> 01:24:49,513

There you go.

:

01:24:49,513 --> 01:24:50,258

That's probably better words.

:

01:24:50,808 --> 01:24:55,873

Katie: Vernon says in this

that he makes 31, 000 a

:

01:24:55,873 --> 01:24:56,333

year.

:

01:24:56,673 --> 01:24:58,083

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, yes,

I did the math on this.

:

01:25:00,077 --> 01:25:04,418

Katie: For America, like here,

that's 92, about 92, 000.

:

01:25:05,293 --> 01:25:06,202

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, today's money.

:

01:25:06,202 --> 01:25:06,523

Yeah.

:

01:25:07,228 --> 01:25:12,468

Katie: is he the principal or the

vice principal, or is he a teacher?

:

01:25:13,873 --> 01:25:15,223

Ryan Rebalkin: It's a pretty

good wage for a teacher.

:

01:25:16,407 --> 01:25:17,468

Katie: It is now.

:

01:25:18,098 --> 01:25:18,738

I agree.

:

01:25:18,808 --> 01:25:19,318

I agree.

:

01:25:19,348 --> 01:25:23,088

I, I think, so I was reading,

there's some controversy about this.

:

01:25:23,108 --> 01:25:26,938

I had always thought he had to either

be the principal or the vice principal.

:

01:25:27,608 --> 01:25:29,568

And then there's been some talk about.

:

01:25:30,438 --> 01:25:34,088

That he's not that he's actually just a

teacher and that there's some evidence

:

01:25:34,088 --> 01:25:39,048

that points to that when he says I've

been teaching for 22 years that his

:

01:25:39,058 --> 01:25:41,188

office is adjacent to the hallway.

:

01:25:41,238 --> 01:25:43,118

He has a girly calendar on the wall.

:

01:25:43,178 --> 01:25:45,978

Principals wouldn't spend their

Saturdays in detention class.

:

01:25:46,618 --> 01:25:47,698

He would, you know,

:

01:25:47,868 --> 01:25:48,048

Ryan Rebalkin: So,

:

01:25:48,313 --> 01:25:49,733

Katie: the access to the confidential.

:

01:25:50,213 --> 01:25:50,583

Huh?

:

01:25:50,848 --> 01:25:51,157

Ryan Rebalkin: staff.

:

01:25:51,188 --> 01:25:52,418

There's also senior staff.

:

01:25:52,418 --> 01:25:54,748

It's not like he could be

a senior faculty member.

:

01:25:54,758 --> 01:25:57,428

It's not like, it's like, like it's

just teacher, vice principal, principal.

:

01:25:57,428 --> 01:26:01,538

He could be any, he could be a school

faculty of some sort of member or

:

01:26:01,538 --> 01:26:03,077

some sort of senior staff member.

:

01:26:03,398 --> 01:26:05,998

The bosses of the teachers, let's

say, or something like that.

:

01:26:05,998 --> 01:26:06,678

So who knows?

:

01:26:06,698 --> 01:26:10,077

I would say he's not, in this 22 years

teaching, he's just saying this is how

:

01:26:10,077 --> 01:26:13,048

long he's been in the business or how

long he taught before he got the job.

:

01:26:13,388 --> 01:26:16,668

The the job, the so I'm saying I'm

22 years in the military right now,

:

01:26:16,668 --> 01:26:19,868

actually, I'm 20, but I've done

different jobs in the military.

:

01:26:19,868 --> 01:26:20,827

I've done different things.

:

01:26:20,838 --> 01:26:22,168

So he's just blanket statement.

:

01:26:22,168 --> 01:26:24,768

I've been in the school

system for 22 years.

:

01:26:25,688 --> 01:26:27,918

Katie: So there, there was some

talk about him being a teacher,

:

01:26:27,918 --> 01:26:32,238

but I am 100 percent convinced

that he had to be vice principal or

:

01:26:32,238 --> 01:26:33,008

principal

:

01:26:33,348 --> 01:26:33,648

1.

:

01:26:33,657 --> 01:26:34,428

he has an office.

:

01:26:34,428 --> 01:26:36,598

I don't think just regular teachers

:

01:26:36,618 --> 01:26:37,878

have offices.

:

01:26:37,968 --> 01:26:40,318

Ryan Rebalkin: they usually make

their classroom as their office

:

01:26:40,318 --> 01:26:42,998

is where they teach is they

have their desk and everything.

:

01:26:42,998 --> 01:26:45,728

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:26:45,798 --> 01:26:47,407

Katie: in charge of Saturday detention.

:

01:26:48,168 --> 01:26:51,528

I don't know this to be true, but some

say in an American high school, the

:

01:26:51,528 --> 01:26:53,438

vice principal is usually the school's

:

01:26:53,448 --> 01:26:54,788

disciplinarian.

:

01:26:55,228 --> 01:26:57,657

This would explain his

unpopularity with the students.

:

01:26:58,157 --> 01:26:59,478

He has access to confidential

:

01:26:59,488 --> 01:27:00,288

files, which is

:

01:27:00,298 --> 01:27:01,748

something that only administration.

:

01:27:02,248 --> 01:27:02,418

I

:

01:27:02,418 --> 01:27:02,758

know.

:

01:27:02,818 --> 01:27:03,378

So that was,

:

01:27:03,418 --> 01:27:07,998

that was evidence both ways,

but here's the kicker for me.

:

01:27:08,498 --> 01:27:11,018

Andrew's offense when

they're in the circle.

:

01:27:11,433 --> 01:27:15,532

Andrew says Oh, yeah, something

about he got in trouble for it.

:

01:27:15,532 --> 01:27:18,452

And then when they sent

me to Vernon's office.

:

01:27:19,103 --> 01:27:20,943

So they wouldn't send

:

01:27:21,113 --> 01:27:21,452

you

:

01:27:21,452 --> 01:27:21,803

to a

:

01:27:21,873 --> 01:27:22,823

Ryan Rebalkin: I'm all on board.

:

01:27:22,843 --> 01:27:24,893

I think, I think this is not to me.

:

01:27:24,893 --> 01:27:25,753

It's not even a question.

:

01:27:25,753 --> 01:27:26,983

He's vice or principal,

:

01:27:27,473 --> 01:27:27,853

Katie: Okay.

:

01:27:28,253 --> 01:27:29,753

I always assumed that too.

:

01:27:30,303 --> 01:27:30,713

Ryan Rebalkin: the scene,

:

01:27:30,713 --> 01:27:33,333

that threw me off was when the

janitor was calling out for

:

01:27:33,333 --> 01:27:34,933

going through confidential files.

:

01:27:35,313 --> 01:27:40,463

So my question is if the principal

or vice principal can't look

:

01:27:40,463 --> 01:27:41,838

at these files, then who can?

:

01:27:41,838 --> 01:27:42,803

Who can?

:

01:27:43,483 --> 01:27:44,013

Why

:

01:27:44,123 --> 01:27:44,913

Katie: Or maybe it was

:

01:27:44,973 --> 01:27:45,813

Ryan Rebalkin: the school?

:

01:27:47,093 --> 01:27:49,083

Katie: maybe it was just, he shouldn't

:

01:27:49,093 --> 01:27:51,553

be poking around in them.

:

01:27:51,923 --> 01:27:53,793

Ryan Rebalkin: no, It like,

it doesn't make sense.

:

01:27:53,833 --> 01:27:56,833

Like confidence just means,

yes, it's a student's history.

:

01:27:56,913 --> 01:27:57,753

It's their history.

:

01:27:57,863 --> 01:28:00,793

It's their resume of

schooling and behavior.

:

01:28:01,213 --> 01:28:04,423

So if the teacher, sorry, if the

principal and or vice principal doesn't

:

01:28:04,423 --> 01:28:08,693

have authorization, look who, who in

the school would, it wouldn't just be

:

01:28:08,693 --> 01:28:10,173

the math teacher or the gym teacher.

:

01:28:11,473 --> 01:28:16,353

The person that should have overall

access to the student's history would

:

01:28:16,353 --> 01:28:19,532

be the, especially the people that are

there to discipline them on the weekend.

:

01:28:20,593 --> 01:28:21,713

I should know more about them.

:

01:28:21,753 --> 01:28:23,493

I should know what I'm dealing with.

:

01:28:23,493 --> 01:28:26,553

In fact, looking up, he was

doing it for nefarious reasons.

:

01:28:26,913 --> 01:28:31,363

But if I was there and I was in a

disciplinary person, I would love to know.

:

01:28:31,373 --> 01:28:34,463

In fact, when I taught basic training,

we had access to their history,

:

01:28:34,593 --> 01:28:38,063

like the students or the civilians

before they, they wrote a resume on

:

01:28:38,063 --> 01:28:39,393

themselves and I would read them.

:

01:28:39,823 --> 01:28:41,093

Whatever they wanted to share.

:

01:28:41,403 --> 01:28:45,213

It was for us to read because I wanted to

know, I would treat people differently,

:

01:28:45,793 --> 01:28:48,273

knowing some of their background,

they lost a parent, let's say, or,

:

01:28:48,313 --> 01:28:49,863

or they had a member in the military.

:

01:28:49,863 --> 01:28:52,433

So you have all these different

backgrounds of what are they bringing

:

01:28:52,433 --> 01:28:54,133

to the table as a new recruit?

:

01:28:54,913 --> 01:28:59,723

So I don't get why the janitor was

calling him out for looking at files.

:

01:28:59,723 --> 01:29:02,633

When, if it's not him, then that

would be the only argument that

:

01:29:02,633 --> 01:29:04,923

he's just an average quote unquote

teacher that he shouldn't be

:

01:29:04,923 --> 01:29:06,013

looking through confidential files,

:

01:29:06,253 --> 01:29:11,463

Katie: Well, I think I think there's a

slight distinction I assumed because he

:

01:29:11,463 --> 01:29:14,473

says, oh, Mr tyranny mental health issues.

:

01:29:14,483 --> 01:29:16,413

So we think he was

looking at the teachers.

:

01:29:16,413 --> 01:29:16,532

Okay.

:

01:29:16,973 --> 01:29:18,782

Files because he said, oh, Mr.

:

01:29:18,803 --> 01:29:18,952

T

:

01:29:18,952 --> 01:29:19,952

was looking at Mr.

:

01:29:20,003 --> 01:29:20,282

Ryan Rebalkin: I think.

:

01:29:20,282 --> 01:29:21,413

So at the student finals,

:

01:29:21,523 --> 01:29:24,653

Katie: It's a file cabinet, but

he specifically says, oh, Mr.

:

01:29:24,653 --> 01:29:27,013

Tierney history of mental illness.

:

01:29:27,063 --> 01:29:31,043

And, but, you know, you could argue

that he refers to the students

:

01:29:31,083 --> 01:29:31,413

as.

:

01:29:31,933 --> 01:29:32,293

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, yeah.

:

01:29:32,293 --> 01:29:33,073

Build all the time.

:

01:29:33,083 --> 01:29:33,282

Mr.

:

01:29:33,282 --> 01:29:33,803

Balkan.

:

01:29:33,823 --> 01:29:35,093

I get that all the time when I was a kid.

:

01:29:35,153 --> 01:29:35,383

Oh,

:

01:29:35,528 --> 01:29:36,888

Katie: So you could argue either way.

:

01:29:36,888 --> 01:29:38,488

Hmm.

:

01:29:38,503 --> 01:29:42,223

Ryan Rebalkin: again, but again, if it's

not him, who's allowed to, if it's not

:

01:29:42,223 --> 01:29:45,413

the principal vice, maybe it's just the

principal, maybe it's just the principal.

:

01:29:45,413 --> 01:29:47,693

And then that's why the vice principal,

but that doesn't mean if you're a vice,

:

01:29:47,693 --> 01:29:50,813

you, you have, you have the same access

as the principal in their absence.

:

01:29:51,418 --> 01:29:53,618

Katie: I think Carl was just calling

him out because he was up to no

:

01:29:53,618 --> 01:29:54,048

good.

:

01:29:54,748 --> 01:29:55,108

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah.

:

01:29:55,108 --> 01:29:56,098

Well that's what it was.

:

01:29:56,098 --> 01:29:58,858

I know, but you know, you know, I love

to get in the weeds of this stuff.

:

01:29:58,858 --> 01:30:00,628

I love it because it's

written for a reason.

:

01:30:00,628 --> 01:30:01,348

That's why I do it.

:

01:30:01,702 --> 01:30:03,808

'cause it's the author of the movie

:

01:30:04,407 --> 01:30:06,628

wrote this and filmed it for a reason.

:

01:30:07,288 --> 01:30:09,208

So I want to know why.

:

01:30:09,208 --> 01:30:11,398

And if it doesn't make sense,

why didn't you catch it?

:

01:30:11,618 --> 01:30:12,218

We just didn't.

:

01:30:12,218 --> 01:30:12,758

Five minutes.

:

01:30:12,758 --> 01:30:15,907

How come you didn't, you, you had

to set the lighting, set the scene.

:

01:30:16,178 --> 01:30:17,198

They had to rehearse their lines.

:

01:30:17,198 --> 01:30:18,788

At no point did someone

say, I don't get it.

:

01:30:18,788 --> 01:30:19,058

Why?

:

01:30:19,268 --> 01:30:20,918

Why is this a problem that

he's looking at the files?

:

01:30:21,948 --> 01:30:22,368

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:30:22,718 --> 01:30:23,168

I don't know.

:

01:30:23,573 --> 01:30:23,952

Ryan Rebalkin: It's weird.

:

01:30:23,952 --> 01:30:25,513

All right.

:

01:30:26,108 --> 01:30:31,548

Katie: I do notice in especially back,

back in the day you know, women virginity

:

01:30:31,568 --> 01:30:35,918

was seen as this big virtue,

particularly in the eighties.

:

01:30:38,123 --> 01:30:41,443

But they are so obsessed with Claire's

:

01:30:41,463 --> 01:30:42,273

virginity.

:

01:30:42,678 --> 01:30:43,398

Like I,

:

01:30:43,803 --> 01:30:44,893

Ryan Rebalkin: Anthony Michael's are you

:

01:30:44,903 --> 01:30:48,733

not ever are you so it's boy and

girl give him credit for that the the

:

01:30:51,702 --> 01:30:56,713

Harangued these poor students who hadn't

yet had you haven't You haven't had

:

01:30:56,952 --> 01:30:58,903

vaginal intercourse at the age of 15 yet?

:

01:30:58,903 --> 01:30:59,702

What's wrong with you?

:

01:31:00,103 --> 01:31:00,763

Whoa,

:

01:31:00,943 --> 01:31:01,452

Easy!

:

01:31:01,463 --> 01:31:02,233

Whoa, Nelly!

:

01:31:02,958 --> 01:31:06,518

Katie: there was several different

instances, like three different

:

01:31:06,968 --> 01:31:10,308

places in the movie where they're

talking about Claire's virginity.

:

01:31:10,308 --> 01:31:15,068

And even one time when Bender

was really trying to fire her

:

01:31:15,068 --> 01:31:16,868

up and, and he's like over the

:

01:31:16,868 --> 01:31:17,918

bra under

:

01:31:17,918 --> 01:31:18,028

the

:

01:31:18,028 --> 01:31:18,778

sweater.

:

01:31:19,168 --> 01:31:21,848

And she's like, are you, are

you trying to make me puke?

:

01:31:21,878 --> 01:31:23,318

I thought that was really weird.

:

01:31:23,348 --> 01:31:25,327

Why would that make you puke?

:

01:31:26,018 --> 01:31:26,838

Like, why would you

:

01:31:26,853 --> 01:31:28,163

Ryan Rebalkin: because the

idea, I think, no, I think

:

01:31:28,163 --> 01:31:30,293

because she's disgusted by him.

:

01:31:30,503 --> 01:31:32,443

And she's envisioning

him doing that to her.

:

01:31:32,500 --> 01:31:33,280

Trying to make me puke?

:

01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:34,350

I was like, you're going to do this to

:

01:31:34,350 --> 01:31:34,670

me?

:

01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:35,400

You're gross.

:

01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,900

If it was Emilio's character,

that might be a different story.

:

01:31:38,470 --> 01:31:42,260

Uh So I, what I found, this

is what I find, I maybe it's a

:

01:31:42,260 --> 01:31:43,690

side, but I was around this time.

:

01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,210

I went through high

school, like I graded 93.

:

01:31:46,710 --> 01:31:49,620

I will not confirm or deny

my virginity at the 93.

:

01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:52,960

But what I, no, I, I was religious.

:

01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,010

But nobody made fun of me.

:

01:31:54,330 --> 01:31:55,790

I was it was really talked about.

:

01:31:55,940 --> 01:31:57,740

I don't remember people in the hallway.

:

01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,270

Hey, hey, we got a virgin over here

Like it was it wasn't really some kids.

:

01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:03,860

Yeah, they're kids getting together.

:

01:32:03,860 --> 01:32:04,420

You knew about it.

:

01:32:04,420 --> 01:32:06,580

Yeah, they've been dating for 10

months They probably done things but

:

01:32:06,580 --> 01:32:09,710

then if you weren't dating anyone

you just assumed well that guy or

:

01:32:09,710 --> 01:32:11,900

girl doesn't have a girlfriend or

boyfriend I assume they're probably

:

01:32:11,900 --> 01:32:13,340

not having sex with the family dog.

:

01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:14,400

Like it's just

:

01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:16,020

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:16,110

I

:

01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:17,470

Ryan Rebalkin: We, but

this is weird though.

:

01:32:17,470 --> 01:32:19,620

People assume that everyone

not everyone's hooking up.

:

01:32:19,900 --> 01:32:21,970

Like I graduated with 500 students.

:

01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:23,210

Everyone was hooking up.

:

01:32:23,260 --> 01:32:24,700

Some people just weren't having sex.

:

01:32:24,809 --> 01:32:26,900

It wasn't like everyone

had a, had a partner.

:

01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:29,600

You just mathematically,

not everyone had a partner.

:

01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,180

Katie: No, it is a weird, like these

teen movies really focused on it.

:

01:32:33,180 --> 01:32:37,330

Plus 90 that's like, literally 10 years

later maybe there was, you know, some,

:

01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:41,300

but I think particularly for Claire,

cause she's the, the, the pretty

:

01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:45,559

popular one and, you know, and then,

and then they're like, well, or, or

:

01:32:45,559 --> 01:32:48,580

are you a tease and they're like,

well, you're screwed either way.

:

01:32:48,580 --> 01:32:48,620

Yeah.

:

01:32:48,945 --> 01:32:50,245

Because you're either a prude

:

01:32:50,255 --> 01:32:50,995

or a slut,

:

01:32:51,370 --> 01:32:52,480

Ryan Rebalkin: Well, that's

probably like Allison.

:

01:32:52,500 --> 01:32:56,150

She, these character was like, yeah, I

do everyone all the time, everywhere.

:

01:32:56,180 --> 01:32:57,750

That's kind of almost what

are you gonna do about it?

:

01:32:57,860 --> 01:33:00,710

If you just kind of own, even though

she didn't, but she just said it

:

01:33:00,980 --> 01:33:02,390

to say, okay, fine, I'm a whore.

:

01:33:02,750 --> 01:33:03,260

Next.

:

01:33:04,145 --> 01:33:05,095

Like it's almost

:

01:33:05,245 --> 01:33:05,445

Katie: but

:

01:33:05,445 --> 01:33:06,225

it doesn't matter.

:

01:33:06,255 --> 01:33:07,065

The idea is

:

01:33:07,485 --> 01:33:08,095

Ryan Rebalkin: yeah.

:

01:33:08,165 --> 01:33:10,395

Katie: matter for her because

she's a quote, unquote, nobody.

:

01:33:10,445 --> 01:33:11,175

Nobody cares what

:

01:33:11,175 --> 01:33:12,055

she I mean, that's,

:

01:33:12,175 --> 01:33:12,815

you know, that's the

:

01:33:12,815 --> 01:33:13,135

idea.

:

01:33:13,135 --> 01:33:14,575

Claire is on this pedestal.

:

01:33:15,245 --> 01:33:15,885

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah

:

01:33:16,235 --> 01:33:17,355

Would he like her better?

:

01:33:17,365 --> 01:33:20,505

Oh, yeah, I I had five guys with me

yesterday Like I don't want to be crude,

:

01:33:20,505 --> 01:33:23,515

but it's like what what would she say

where he would have backed off and said?

:

01:33:23,515 --> 01:33:23,845

Oh, yeah.

:

01:33:24,135 --> 01:33:24,325

Oh, yeah.

:

01:33:24,345 --> 01:33:25,925

I've been having sex since I was 12.

:

01:33:26,145 --> 01:33:26,755

What's it to you?

:

01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:28,680

Katie: That was Allison's point.

:

01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:29,190

You're screwed.

:

01:33:29,220 --> 01:33:29,550

As a

:

01:33:29,550 --> 01:33:30,780

woman in

:

01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:34,010

that situation, you're screwed either

way because you're a prude if you

:

01:33:34,020 --> 01:33:35,950

haven't and you're a slut if you have.

:

01:33:36,660 --> 01:33:37,070

Right?

:

01:33:37,670 --> 01:33:37,760

I

:

01:33:38,005 --> 01:33:38,335

Ryan Rebalkin: or you

:

01:33:38,570 --> 01:33:39,550

Katie: sadly, that

:

01:33:39,725 --> 01:33:41,105

Ryan Rebalkin: I've just

been waiting for you.

:

01:33:41,145 --> 01:33:42,184

I just been waiting for you.

:

01:33:42,195 --> 01:33:43,105

Thank you so much.

:

01:33:43,105 --> 01:33:44,065

This is amazing.

:

01:33:44,065 --> 01:33:45,055

Oh, you know,

:

01:33:45,730 --> 01:33:49,150

Katie: And even within the movie,

there's even within the movie,

:

01:33:49,150 --> 01:33:51,970

there's the double standard because

it's assumed that men do it.

:

01:33:52,775 --> 01:33:55,925

And then when she finds out that

Brian's a virgin, she's like, I think

:

01:33:55,925 --> 01:33:57,275

it's okay for a guy to be a virgin.

:

01:33:57,415 --> 01:33:58,055

Well, fuck it.

:

01:33:58,075 --> 01:33:58,795

Of course.

:

01:33:58,795 --> 01:34:01,955

I

:

01:34:02,065 --> 01:34:03,415

Ryan Rebalkin: I mean, look,

so I think we're obviously,

:

01:34:03,434 --> 01:34:04,365

you could lose your Virginia.

:

01:34:04,365 --> 01:34:06,115

We'll obviously same sex relationships.

:

01:34:06,115 --> 01:34:08,375

You lose your, you know, that

is losing your virginity.

:

01:34:08,375 --> 01:34:09,315

But the point, you get what I'm saying?

:

01:34:09,325 --> 01:34:14,085

The point is, is that, If I lost

my virginity at 14 Well, I probably

:

01:34:14,085 --> 01:34:15,355

did it with someone did it with me.

:

01:34:15,355 --> 01:34:17,205

So why is like who's that girl?

:

01:34:17,205 --> 01:34:22,075

We got to track her down and get the is

this funny how old men aren't virgins

:

01:34:22,094 --> 01:34:23,785

but old women are so who are the men?

:

01:34:23,785 --> 01:34:25,725

the one girl

:

01:34:25,795 --> 01:34:26,865

Katie: I mean, here's the thing.

:

01:34:26,875 --> 01:34:30,375

And back in the day, it's okay for you to.

:

01:34:30,889 --> 01:34:36,990

Like a nice young man to, you

know, waste himself on like some

:

01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,510

slutty girl that doesn't matter,

but when he's going to marry

:

01:34:40,510 --> 01:34:41,290

someone,

:

01:34:41,690 --> 01:34:43,770

you know, then yeah.

:

01:34:43,850 --> 01:34:44,280

Yeah.

:

01:34:45,275 --> 01:34:45,415

Ryan Rebalkin: That's right.

:

01:34:45,455 --> 01:34:48,315

I got my practice in but i'll show you

a thing or two on our wedding night.

:

01:34:48,335 --> 01:34:48,745

Don't you

:

01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:49,250

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:34:49,250 --> 01:34:50,920

It's just, It's gross.

:

01:34:51,050 --> 01:34:51,750

it's gross.

:

01:34:51,985 --> 01:34:53,035

Ryan Rebalkin: I'll

take care of you, honey.

:

01:34:53,035 --> 01:34:53,745

I'll take care of you.

:

01:34:54,344 --> 01:34:54,855

It's adorable

:

01:34:55,389 --> 01:34:55,700

Katie: okay.

:

01:34:55,700 --> 01:34:58,420

Which one of the lunches?

:

01:34:58,570 --> 01:34:58,740

I

:

01:34:58,740 --> 01:35:00,070

love the lunch scene.

:

01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:00,850

Which one?

:

01:35:01,705 --> 01:35:04,475

You that would be yours,

but in height now, but in

:

01:35:04,475 --> 01:35:05,115

high school.

:

01:35:05,565 --> 01:35:06,855

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, sorry.

:

01:35:06,915 --> 01:35:07,725

In high school.

:

01:35:07,725 --> 01:35:07,885

Yeah.

:

01:35:08,115 --> 01:35:08,445

Okay.

:

01:35:08,445 --> 01:35:11,385

For me, it was the peanut butter

and jam sandwich with the juice box.

:

01:35:11,715 --> 01:35:12,915

No juice box.

:

01:35:12,915 --> 01:35:13,395

Are you kidding me?

:

01:35:13,395 --> 01:35:14,045

That's spoil.

:

01:35:14,045 --> 01:35:15,365

I don't think I was given a drink.

:

01:35:15,365 --> 01:35:17,065

I think I was told to drink

from the fountain as a kid

:

01:35:18,285 --> 01:35:18,755

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:35:18,764 --> 01:35:19,385

Ryan Rebalkin: juice boxes.

:

01:35:19,495 --> 01:35:21,514

I may, I shouldn't, I shouldn't

out my parents like that.

:

01:35:21,535 --> 01:35:21,905

I don't know.

:

01:35:22,355 --> 01:35:27,275

We weren't that well off, but

definitely it was sandwiches, an apple.

:

01:35:28,165 --> 01:35:31,105

Orange homemade granola bar.

:

01:35:32,094 --> 01:35:32,445

Yeah,

:

01:35:32,585 --> 01:35:33,985

Katie: What a what a nutritious.

:

01:35:34,005 --> 01:35:35,575

So you really were Brian

:

01:35:35,575 --> 01:35:38,235

Johnson What did all

the food groups are rep?

:

01:35:38,235 --> 01:35:38,365

He

:

01:35:38,545 --> 01:35:39,005

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, they

:

01:35:39,135 --> 01:35:39,975

Katie: all all the food

:

01:35:39,985 --> 01:35:41,275

groups are represented.

:

01:35:41,405 --> 01:35:43,445

Ryan Rebalkin: me Yeah, he would have

made fun of my lunch, even though he

:

01:35:43,445 --> 01:35:44,635

would have liked to have had it at the

:

01:35:44,764 --> 01:35:45,305

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:35:45,705 --> 01:35:49,585

That's awesome the the Captain Crunch in

:

01:35:49,594 --> 01:35:52,305

Allison's sandwich was her

:

01:35:52,945 --> 01:35:55,525

Adlib, because she thought it would,

:

01:35:55,865 --> 01:35:57,925

you know, the crunch sound would be good.

:

01:35:58,075 --> 01:35:58,395

Yeah,

:

01:35:58,465 --> 01:36:01,865

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, I love Captain

Crunch it chews up your mouth But boy

:

01:36:02,455 --> 01:36:06,425

as a kid that was like the Captain

Crunch Cheryl as a kid was like gold.

:

01:36:07,825 --> 01:36:10,215

Katie: well, she put, I mean,

that sandwich, which you

:

01:36:10,215 --> 01:36:10,465

have.

:

01:36:11,135 --> 01:36:12,285

I mean, it probably wouldn't be that

:

01:36:12,295 --> 01:36:12,945

bad

:

01:36:13,425 --> 01:36:16,934

pixie sticks picks, but there's

probably Mayo or something because

:

01:36:17,165 --> 01:36:18,014

on the, because she

:

01:36:18,275 --> 01:36:19,485

Ryan Rebalkin: No, I

think it was just bread.

:

01:36:19,485 --> 01:36:22,195

And was it just, it was not

just, it looked like it was

:

01:36:22,215 --> 01:36:24,184

Katie: Oh, was it okay pixie

:

01:36:24,485 --> 01:36:26,995

Ryan Rebalkin: to me, I was like,

Oh, that is a dry bite of food.

:

01:36:27,005 --> 01:36:28,225

It's just there's no liquid.

:

01:36:29,415 --> 01:36:31,264

Katie: sticks or sugar

sticks and Captain Crunch

:

01:36:31,285 --> 01:36:32,215

between bread.

:

01:36:32,235 --> 01:36:32,835

Ryan Rebalkin: No, thanks.

:

01:36:33,125 --> 01:36:33,665

Katie: okay.

:

01:36:34,175 --> 01:36:35,775

What would you do for a million dollars?

:

01:36:36,934 --> 01:36:38,665

In the, in this circle, they ask.

:

01:36:38,675 --> 01:36:39,094

That's what

:

01:36:39,094 --> 01:36:42,205

started the circle conversation is,

what would you do for a million dollars?

:

01:36:42,205 --> 01:36:42,665

Would you show up to

:

01:36:42,665 --> 01:36:43,585

school naked?

:

01:36:43,594 --> 01:36:44,475

Like things like that.

:

01:36:45,125 --> 01:36:45,514

Ryan Rebalkin: No.

:

01:36:46,025 --> 01:36:46,305

Yeah.

:

01:36:46,305 --> 01:36:47,225

Everyone has a number.

:

01:36:47,225 --> 01:36:48,005

I know it's funny.

:

01:36:48,005 --> 01:36:50,785

It's the naked thing is always a thing.

:

01:36:50,785 --> 01:36:54,764

Like I am, you ever watch it's not true,

but you ever watch Arrested Development.

:

01:36:55,264 --> 01:36:56,934

Katie: Not regularly, but yeah.

:

01:36:57,025 --> 01:36:59,014

Ryan Rebalkin: there was a

character who, he was never nude.

:

01:36:59,035 --> 01:36:59,825

That was his character.

:

01:36:59,825 --> 01:37:01,264

He just, he was never nude,

:

01:37:02,605 --> 01:37:05,605

like even like at home at the shower,

he's wearing shorts and he has a

:

01:37:05,615 --> 01:37:08,985

never nude policy, but I'm not like

that, but it always makes me laugh.

:

01:37:08,985 --> 01:37:09,325

So.

:

01:37:09,865 --> 01:37:12,165

Streaking I know I was

never interested in that.

:

01:37:12,235 --> 01:37:14,975

So I don't know what I would

do for a million dollars boy

:

01:37:15,855 --> 01:37:18,735

Katie: What's funny is I don't think

I would have, I mean a million, maybe

:

01:37:18,735 --> 01:37:19,975

I would for a million dollars, but.

:

01:37:20,505 --> 01:37:24,715

In high school, you care so much

about what people think about you

:

01:37:24,715 --> 01:37:30,065

and those 4 years, but I will

say I would now 100 percent

:

01:37:30,635 --> 01:37:32,815

like, be in public nude for a

:

01:37:32,835 --> 01:37:33,585

million dollars.

:

01:37:33,925 --> 01:37:34,365

I would.

:

01:37:34,934 --> 01:37:36,835

Ryan Rebalkin: so what do you

mean by new like what do you do

:

01:37:36,835 --> 01:37:38,014

I not mean anything crass but

:

01:37:38,055 --> 01:37:39,075

like what are you walking

:

01:37:39,075 --> 01:37:41,285

Are you how long are we talking about for

:

01:37:41,395 --> 01:37:43,764

Katie: a good question and parameters,

but I would walk outside of my

:

01:37:43,764 --> 01:37:45,745

house and maybe walk up and down my

:

01:37:45,745 --> 01:37:46,434

sidewalk.

:

01:37:46,965 --> 01:37:48,745

Ryan Rebalkin: Your hair has

to be behind your back though.

:

01:37:48,855 --> 01:37:49,705

You have very long hair.

:

01:37:49,705 --> 01:37:51,315

You can't pull the mermaid the Little

:

01:37:51,405 --> 01:37:52,085

Katie: Yeah, I would.

:

01:37:52,135 --> 01:37:52,855

Yeah, I would.

:

01:37:52,895 --> 01:37:54,985

Yeah, because yeah, actually,

:

01:37:54,985 --> 01:37:56,815

my hair would cover like, in

:

01:37:56,815 --> 01:37:57,785

splash my hair would

:

01:37:57,969 --> 01:37:58,710

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, it's flash.

:

01:37:58,710 --> 01:37:59,059

That's right.

:

01:37:59,280 --> 01:37:59,430

Yeah.

:

01:37:59,430 --> 01:38:00,719

So you'd have to put the hair back.

:

01:38:00,730 --> 01:38:01,820

This is not PG.

:

01:38:01,830 --> 01:38:03,480

This is a R rated nudity.

:

01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:03,870

Okay.

:

01:38:04,195 --> 01:38:04,375

Katie: So

:

01:38:04,375 --> 01:38:05,205

you wouldn't walk

:

01:38:05,559 --> 01:38:07,550

Ryan Rebalkin: I don't,

I, I'm, I'm a baby.

:

01:38:07,559 --> 01:38:09,430

Even if you offer me a

billion, I'd be tough.

:

01:38:10,020 --> 01:38:10,930

I'm scared.

:

01:38:10,930 --> 01:38:11,850

I'm scared to rock on

:

01:38:11,860 --> 01:38:12,180

nude.

:

01:38:12,180 --> 01:38:12,590

I don't know.

:

01:38:12,785 --> 01:38:13,405

Katie: dollars.

:

01:38:13,405 --> 01:38:13,844

Yes, you

:

01:38:13,844 --> 01:38:14,365

would.

:

01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,610

Ryan Rebalkin: Maybe that's

why I don't know a million.

:

01:38:17,610 --> 01:38:19,440

I don't think a million, I think it'd

have to go higher than a million.

:

01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:19,790

I don't know.

:

01:38:19,940 --> 01:38:20,860

So I don't know.

:

01:38:21,070 --> 01:38:22,350

I'm so, I'm so boring.

:

01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,690

I, I know this is a fun game and I'm not

trying to tap out of the game because

:

01:38:25,690 --> 01:38:27,150

it is just a game I could easily, sure.

:

01:38:27,150 --> 01:38:29,650

I'll do it for a million just

to end the game, but I'm such a,

:

01:38:29,820 --> 01:38:31,850

I'm so, I'm so easily embarrassed

with that kind of stuff.

:

01:38:31,850 --> 01:38:32,330

So I don't know.

:

01:38:32,450 --> 01:38:32,800

I don't know.

:

01:38:33,895 --> 01:38:36,865

I think I would I think I might slash

the neighborhood tires for a million

:

01:38:36,865 --> 01:38:38,355

bucks instead or something like that.

:

01:38:38,375 --> 01:38:41,594

Maybe a little bit more of the criminal

side of behavior than embarrassing

:

01:38:41,594 --> 01:38:42,635

myself, if that makes sense.

:

01:38:43,255 --> 01:38:45,245

Katie: I have a feeling all

of the European listeners

:

01:38:45,264 --> 01:38:50,125

are like bashing their heads against

something because it's, it's, as I

:

01:38:50,125 --> 01:38:54,264

understand it even when I would go to

travel, like you can like baths, even

:

01:38:54,264 --> 01:38:58,755

here, there's like nude, you know, you go

to like a, a hot, hot springs or whatever.

:

01:38:59,315 --> 01:39:04,675

And, you know, or actually I have

done topless on a beach in Mexico

:

01:39:05,665 --> 01:39:06,014

for no

:

01:39:06,014 --> 01:39:09,795

money, but again, it was, but but, I

wasn't the only one, you know what I mean?

:

01:39:09,795 --> 01:39:12,045

Ryan Rebalkin: Well, yeah, I

guess for men that always have,

:

01:39:12,125 --> 01:39:15,125

I'm speaking as a guy, that's all

I have is that thing down there.

:

01:39:15,125 --> 01:39:15,625

That's it.

:

01:39:15,735 --> 01:39:18,344

Like meaning Cause you know,

if you have small breasts, big

:

01:39:18,355 --> 01:39:19,545

breasts, men usually don't care.

:

01:39:19,545 --> 01:39:20,775

Like we're not, Oh, those are small.

:

01:39:20,775 --> 01:39:21,875

Those are, Hey, the breasts.

:

01:39:21,875 --> 01:39:23,275

We don't really care.

:

01:39:23,275 --> 01:39:28,205

Small versus big, but for men, yeah,

for the record, it's 10 inches.

:

01:39:28,860 --> 01:39:29,250

Katie: You're like,

:

01:39:29,250 --> 01:39:29,440

no,

:

01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:32,630

I'm don't let's, let's

do, let's do you think

:

01:39:33,645 --> 01:39:36,115

Ryan Rebalkin: no, but the point is

for a guy that's all, that's all.

:

01:39:36,125 --> 01:39:37,925

Once that's exposed, it's like, that's it.

:

01:39:38,225 --> 01:39:38,805

Katie: That's valid.

:

01:39:39,555 --> 01:39:42,235

, so do you think they go

back what happens on Monday?

:

01:39:43,315 --> 01:39:44,315

There's couples.

:

01:39:45,264 --> 01:39:46,725

What happens particularly

:

01:39:46,755 --> 01:39:50,245

Do they is this just a 1

time just a 1 off experience.

:

01:39:50,650 --> 01:39:51,110

This is a one

:

01:39:51,115 --> 01:39:53,045

Ryan Rebalkin: think that's,

that's, why we don't see it.

:

01:39:53,094 --> 01:39:55,835

I think that's why we don't see it because

I think it'd be too hard for us to see.

:

01:39:55,905 --> 01:39:57,764

I think the audience would

be too sad to see that.

:

01:39:57,885 --> 01:40:00,775

Oh, it's just because that's teenage life.

:

01:40:00,805 --> 01:40:03,355

I think that's when we go because

there was talk about reinvestigating

:

01:40:03,365 --> 01:40:05,005

the characters every 10 years type

:

01:40:05,170 --> 01:40:05,800

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:40:05,870 --> 01:40:08,309

Ryan Rebalkin: see how they've advanced

or whatever and that'd be an interesting

:

01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,990

case study But I think as far as high

school goes on the monday following That's

:

01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:16,790

what there'd be the cursory nod to the

following monday barely a nod Two months

:

01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:20,380

down the road You're just with your groups

and your friends and your clubs and your

:

01:40:20,380 --> 01:40:21,960

sports and your whatever you just move on

:

01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:24,010

Katie: I think so too.

:

01:40:24,980 --> 01:40:26,139

It was just a one off.

:

01:40:26,300 --> 01:40:26,590

Cool

:

01:40:26,780 --> 01:40:32,530

Ryan Rebalkin: was a there was a He

wrote john hughes wrote like What would

:

01:40:32,530 --> 01:40:34,210

happen to the characters later in life?

:

01:40:34,690 --> 01:40:36,960

It's funny what he wrote for

molly ringwald's character.

:

01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,270

She did in real

:

01:40:38,530 --> 01:40:38,889

Katie: Did get

:

01:40:38,889 --> 01:40:39,389

fat.

:

01:40:39,980 --> 01:40:40,650

Ryan Rebalkin: No, I'm not fat.

:

01:40:40,660 --> 01:40:45,540

She didn't say fat I think she said

kids Because molly's not fat anyway

:

01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:48,340

She performed but I think she might

have had children but said that she'd

:

01:40:48,340 --> 01:40:50,309

get her face done and a boob job

:

01:40:51,190 --> 01:40:55,410

Katie: Two, two boob jobs and

a facelift later, which is the

:

01:40:55,410 --> 01:40:57,040

reason I said, did she get fat?

:

01:40:57,210 --> 01:40:58,900

Is because that's what Bender

:

01:40:58,990 --> 01:41:00,160

assumed would happen.

:

01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,600

Ryan Rebalkin: yeah, john hughes wrote

like the characters but it's just kind

:

01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,130

of ironic that He kind of called Molly.

:

01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:07,130

I'm not shaming her.

:

01:41:07,139 --> 01:41:07,440

Great.

:

01:41:07,450 --> 01:41:07,850

You got a boob.

:

01:41:07,889 --> 01:41:10,740

But she actually did get

breast augmentation work done

:

01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,040

and worked on on her face.

:

01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,530

Just like they said the

:

01:41:14,540 --> 01:41:16,200

Katie: Oh, Oh, in real life.

:

01:41:16,430 --> 01:41:17,550

Ryan Rebalkin: Yes, Molly did.

:

01:41:17,550 --> 01:41:18,040

Yeah.

:

01:41:18,090 --> 01:41:18,440

Yeah.

:

01:41:18,500 --> 01:41:19,010

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:19,750

Yeah.

:

01:41:20,500 --> 01:41:21,500

There's no party scene.

:

01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:21,600

No

:

01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:22,670

guys drinking beer.

:

01:41:22,690 --> 01:41:23,580

No bare breasts.

:

01:41:23,580 --> 01:41:26,490

We kind of talked about it at the

beginning, but despite all of that,

:

01:41:26,490 --> 01:41:30,389

and the, the studios wanting that

that's your typical teen movie.

:

01:41:30,389 --> 01:41:30,559

This.

:

01:41:30,990 --> 01:41:34,219

It's so far outside that and then

it was also shot in sequence,

:

01:41:34,260 --> 01:41:35,330

which is different.

:

01:41:35,835 --> 01:41:36,594

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, that's cool.

:

01:41:36,655 --> 01:41:37,365

I like that, though.

:

01:41:38,315 --> 01:41:42,010

Katie: I think everybody knows,

but john Hughes has a cameo in

:

01:41:42,010 --> 01:41:42,440

this.

:

01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,230

He picks up Brian at the end.

:

01:41:45,290 --> 01:41:45,520

That's

:

01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,380

John Hughes in the car picking up Brian.

:

01:41:47,795 --> 01:41:48,545

Ryan Rebalkin: in the drop off.

:

01:41:48,594 --> 01:41:49,005

But yeah,

:

01:41:49,355 --> 01:41:49,645

it's

:

01:41:49,719 --> 01:41:53,320

Katie: No, his, the drop off

is his real mother and sister.

:

01:41:53,639 --> 01:41:54,620

His mom drops him

:

01:41:54,875 --> 01:41:55,475

Ryan Rebalkin: right.

:

01:41:56,070 --> 01:42:00,575

Katie: And though the actresses The

who play his mom and his sister in

:

01:42:00,575 --> 01:42:03,085

the car are his real mother and real

:

01:42:03,094 --> 01:42:03,645

sister.

:

01:42:04,395 --> 01:42:04,955

Ryan Rebalkin: That's right.

:

01:42:05,075 --> 01:42:05,245

That's

:

01:42:05,455 --> 01:42:05,955

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:42:06,855 --> 01:42:08,175

Should we do some castings?

:

01:42:08,205 --> 01:42:08,975

Let's see what else.

:

01:42:09,675 --> 01:42:13,035

Carl, the janitor Rick Moranis

was originally cast as him.

:

01:42:13,655 --> 01:42:15,625

Ryan Rebalkin: That would have been

okay, but it would have been too.

:

01:42:15,835 --> 01:42:18,075

Like he's just a special bit too silly.

:

01:42:18,315 --> 01:42:19,545

I like the janitor that was cast.

:

01:42:19,545 --> 01:42:19,605

Yeah.

:

01:42:20,295 --> 01:42:20,585

Katie: I do

:

01:42:20,585 --> 01:42:21,105

too.

:

01:42:21,155 --> 01:42:21,745

I do too.

:

01:42:22,105 --> 01:42:26,094

Bill Murray was briefly considered

and same with John Candy,

:

01:42:27,014 --> 01:42:28,115

Ryan Rebalkin: Well, I love John Candy.

:

01:42:28,885 --> 01:42:29,815

Katie: but John Candy did

:

01:42:29,975 --> 01:42:31,745

Ryan Rebalkin: he would've

been, he would've been good,

:

01:42:31,775 --> 01:42:32,865

cause he can do that drama.

:

01:42:32,925 --> 01:42:35,514

He would've done the sit he

would've been good cause he can do

:

01:42:35,514 --> 01:42:37,105

those heartfelt moment talks too.

:

01:42:37,175 --> 01:42:37,425

Yeah.

:

01:42:37,925 --> 01:42:38,145

Uncle

:

01:42:38,645 --> 01:42:40,825

Katie: He did go on to work

with Hughes a couple of times.

:

01:42:40,825 --> 01:42:42,215

So Home Alone, Planes, Trains and

:

01:42:42,215 --> 01:42:43,025

Automobiles.

:

01:42:43,355 --> 01:42:43,655

Ryan Rebalkin: Buck,

:

01:42:44,980 --> 01:42:45,389

Katie: Uncle Buck.

:

01:42:45,389 --> 01:42:45,889

Yeah, duh.

:

01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:46,330

Yeah.

:

01:42:46,469 --> 01:42:47,070

Let's see.

:

01:42:47,370 --> 01:42:51,010

Hughes really did want Emilio

Estevez, but if he couldn't,

:

01:42:51,530 --> 01:42:53,590

he was considering Michael J.

:

01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:53,950

Fox.

:

01:42:54,415 --> 01:42:59,245

Jim Carrey, Tom Cruise, Matthew

Broderick, and Rob Lowe.

:

01:43:00,655 --> 01:43:01,605

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, they

all would've worked.

:

01:43:01,605 --> 01:43:01,965

They all would've

:

01:43:01,975 --> 01:43:02,315

worked.

:

01:43:02,355 --> 01:43:02,675

In two

:

01:43:02,895 --> 01:43:07,594

Katie: for Claire, Jodie Foster,

Robin Wright, Laura Dern.

:

01:43:08,195 --> 01:43:12,405

Laura Dern I guess, want, she auditioned

for both, both of the female parts.

:

01:43:13,085 --> 01:43:15,655

And Brooke Shields was

considered for Alison,

:

01:43:16,005 --> 01:43:16,745

also.

:

01:43:17,105 --> 01:43:19,465

Ryan Rebalkin: Hmm, okay, jodie

:

01:43:19,719 --> 01:43:20,610

Katie: That's interesting.

:

01:43:20,675 --> 01:43:24,745

Ryan Rebalkin: I told you I think

before she's what My well, she's

:

01:43:24,745 --> 01:43:25,975

my all time favorite actress.

:

01:43:26,055 --> 01:43:26,735

Katie: That's right.

:

01:43:26,735 --> 01:43:27,785

I forgot about that.

:

01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,170

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, so she

would have been too good.

:

01:43:30,170 --> 01:43:30,880

I hate to say it.

:

01:43:31,050 --> 01:43:36,183

It's just she could have done it

nailed it, but She's beyond that.

:

01:43:36,183 --> 01:43:38,761

She would have been

:

01:43:38,815 --> 01:43:41,594

Katie: know, I, this might be a hot take.

:

01:43:41,615 --> 01:43:42,645

I don't have anything

:

01:43:43,271 --> 01:43:43,916

Ryan Rebalkin: Especially

:

01:43:44,215 --> 01:43:49,684

Katie: There's nothing wrong with

Molly Ringwald in this particular role.

:

01:43:50,355 --> 01:43:52,565

I see someone like Robin, right?

:

01:43:53,870 --> 01:43:59,090

That more classically

beautiful stuck up, stuck up,

:

01:43:59,219 --> 01:44:04,190

you know, like Molly Ringwald

is cute, but she's not your

:

01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:05,830

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah.

:

01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:07,809

I think Ally Sheie at then.

:

01:44:08,139 --> 01:44:08,440

Why did

:

01:44:08,440 --> 01:44:09,040

I say then?

:

01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:09,250

But

:

01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:12,160

I said, if I was in that room and they

said, Ryan, pick a girl to take to the

:

01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:15,309

prom right now, go after meeting them for

the day, I would've taken Ally Sheedy's

:

01:44:15,309 --> 01:44:17,980

character, both looks wise and personality

wise, like I wouldn't have been

:

01:44:17,980 --> 01:44:19,389

interested in Molly Ringo's character,

:

01:44:19,402 --> 01:44:19,840

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:44:21,330 --> 01:44:23,400

Ryan Rebalkin: like just

objectively as a guy to take a

:

01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:24,660

girl to the dance type thing.

:

01:44:24,660 --> 01:44:26,430

So, yeah, I, I agree with you.

:

01:44:26,430 --> 01:44:28,860

They should have gotten the,

the blonde classic cheerleader.

:

01:44:28,860 --> 01:44:30,030

Bombshell type actress.

:

01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:30,300

Yeah.

:

01:44:30,660 --> 01:44:32,850

It would have fit the 80s

trope without being too silly.

:

01:44:32,850 --> 01:44:35,469

But yeah, that's the girl that

would be popular school It'd be

:

01:44:35,500 --> 01:44:38,700

the blonde haired Type cheerleader

:

01:44:38,700 --> 01:44:43,309

Katie: she works in something like

a 16 candles because, because she

:

01:44:43,309 --> 01:44:45,620

wasn't as popular, you know, yeah,

:

01:44:45,730 --> 01:44:48,320

Ryan Rebalkin: And I never saw Molly

is that I always saw her as the

:

01:44:48,900 --> 01:44:49,150

Yeah.

:

01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:54,040

as the cute but Not yeah, so it's

interesting, but maybe she's just really

:

01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:57,020

sweet and that's why everyone likes her,

too That's I think what we're getting at.

:

01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:58,950

She seemed like she was a nice person ish.

:

01:44:59,250 --> 01:45:04,764

She wasn't a bitch You know, so there

was that so maybe she just was You Cute

:

01:45:04,764 --> 01:45:08,525

enough and pretty enough that she's

popular amongst her own peers and she's

:

01:45:08,535 --> 01:45:12,295

sure she was raised up even higher

because she was actually not a bad person.

:

01:45:12,395 --> 01:45:12,545

Yeah.

:

01:45:14,850 --> 01:45:16,719

Katie: Do you know what the marijuana

:

01:45:16,830 --> 01:45:18,510

that they smoke actually was?

:

01:45:19,165 --> 01:45:19,475

Ryan Rebalkin: Right.

:

01:45:19,505 --> 01:45:20,355

Oregano or something.

:

01:45:20,355 --> 01:45:22,070

Yeah.

:

01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:22,969

Katie: interesting.

:

01:45:23,469 --> 01:45:26,860

Let's see the library was it

was a real school but it was the

:

01:45:26,860 --> 01:45:29,420

gymnasium of main North high school.

:

01:45:29,790 --> 01:45:35,450

And it was, like, made as a

set specifically for this.

:

01:45:35,639 --> 01:45:35,780

The

:

01:45:35,780 --> 01:45:38,200

dandruff that she shakes onto her drawing.

:

01:45:38,270 --> 01:45:38,675

Do you know

:

01:45:38,675 --> 01:45:39,540

what it was?

:

01:45:39,755 --> 01:45:40,175

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah.

:

01:45:40,395 --> 01:45:40,605

Yeah.

:

01:45:40,605 --> 01:45:41,195

Parmesan.

:

01:45:41,770 --> 01:45:42,460

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:44,100

Yeah.

:

01:45:44,430 --> 01:45:44,889

There's like a

:

01:45:44,900 --> 01:45:45,300

ton.

:

01:45:45,330 --> 01:45:46,660

I could go on and on about

:

01:45:46,755 --> 01:45:47,625

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh yeah.

:

01:45:47,635 --> 01:45:48,764

The trivia is a crazy.

:

01:45:48,895 --> 01:45:50,235

I saw an IMDB as well.

:

01:45:50,235 --> 01:45:52,525

I was like, holy smokes.

:

01:45:52,535 --> 01:45:55,000

It's like, Tons of trivia.

:

01:45:55,020 --> 01:45:55,770

Katie: tons.

:

01:45:55,770 --> 01:45:56,020

Yeah.

:

01:45:56,020 --> 01:45:57,910

I mean, we could go on for another hour

:

01:45:57,910 --> 01:46:00,320

talking about it, but I

don't want to bore you all.

:

01:46:00,790 --> 01:46:01,130

Yeah.

:

01:46:01,150 --> 01:46:01,309

Ryan Rebalkin: true.

:

01:46:01,309 --> 01:46:02,750

We don't have, well,

it's too late for that.

:

01:46:02,750 --> 01:46:06,500

With the, I think that ship

has sailed as they say.

:

01:46:06,809 --> 01:46:07,410

Katie: It is.

:

01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:11,410

So where does this rank for

you with John Hughes movies?

:

01:46:12,460 --> 01:46:14,650

Ryan Rebalkin: Oh, I'd have to

say, well, off the top of my

:

01:46:14,650 --> 01:46:16,440

head, let's start with top five.

:

01:46:16,460 --> 01:46:16,950

For sure.

:

01:46:17,900 --> 01:46:19,200

Top three for sure.

:

01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:21,639

Now we're battling that with a vacation.

:

01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:24,200

And and Uncle Buck.

:

01:46:24,260 --> 01:46:25,320

I really like Uncle Buck.

:

01:46:25,370 --> 01:46:26,010

That was going to be one

:

01:46:26,050 --> 01:46:27,139

Katie: Those are, those are good.

:

01:46:27,469 --> 01:46:29,650

Ryan Rebalkin: cause I

love John Candy so much.

:

01:46:29,710 --> 01:46:32,280

But it's not number one I I can't help it.

:

01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:33,139

I love vacation.

:

01:46:33,150 --> 01:46:34,540

That's my breakfast club.

:

01:46:34,570 --> 01:46:36,090

I've seen vacation numerous times.

:

01:46:36,110 --> 01:46:40,480

I love the comedy of vacation

classic chevy chase, Has anthony

:

01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:41,650

michael holland as well funny

:

01:46:41,650 --> 01:46:44,320

enough and julie, uh, julie

lewis, which I love she's

:

01:46:44,530 --> 01:46:44,639

Katie: Mm

:

01:46:44,650 --> 01:46:47,590

Ryan Rebalkin: I just I just

love that the the it's so stupid.

:

01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:51,219

It has john candy at the end It's such

a fantastically stupid film that yeah,

:

01:46:51,219 --> 01:46:54,585

it's hard for me to you know To not

make that probably the number one film

:

01:46:54,585 --> 01:46:58,725

for me from John Hughes, but this is a

fantastic film I had forgotten how good

:

01:46:58,725 --> 01:47:01,955

this film is like objectively speaking

again watching this for the podcast after

:

01:47:01,955 --> 01:47:03,895

20 odd years not seeing it It's like boy.

:

01:47:03,895 --> 01:47:05,215

This really is a good film.

:

01:47:05,615 --> 01:47:06,745

This is just a very good film.

:

01:47:08,490 --> 01:47:09,240

Katie: I concur.

:

01:47:09,889 --> 01:47:12,960

The Breakfast Club has been

called the quintessential

:

01:47:13,415 --> 01:47:13,795

Ryan Rebalkin: Gotcha

:

01:47:13,870 --> 01:47:14,910

Katie::

:

01:47:15,460 --> 01:47:20,270

And, for me, it is 100

percent my favorite John

:

01:47:20,270 --> 01:47:20,889

Hughes movie.

:

01:47:21,325 --> 01:47:22,145

Ryan Rebalkin: Yeah, I believe

:

01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,100

Katie: It's in my I'd

have to categorize them by

:

01:47:25,110 --> 01:47:29,230

genre, but it's in my

top 5 movies of all time.

:

01:47:29,230 --> 01:47:31,870

You know, if you have to go to an

island and you can only bring 5

:

01:47:31,889 --> 01:47:33,450

movies, this would be 1 of them for

:

01:47:33,450 --> 01:47:33,710

me.

:

01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:37,520

It's yeah, I adore the breakfast club.

:

01:47:37,809 --> 01:47:42,469

So I'm so glad that you picked it

because I did kind of want it to be the

:

01:47:42,469 --> 01:47:43,809

1st episode of season 2.

:

01:47:43,900 --> 01:47:47,630

Also, it works out because when

this is released, it will be.

:

01:47:48,184 --> 01:47:50,825

At the anniversary, the 40th

:

01:47:50,925 --> 01:47:51,514

anniversary

:

01:47:51,555 --> 01:47:52,905

of the breakfast club.

:

01:47:54,335 --> 01:47:57,555

Ryan Rebalkin: And I just want to say as

I totally agree with everything you're

:

01:47:57,555 --> 01:48:00,225

saying about the film and I'll say

with teen movies That's the thing now.

:

01:48:00,225 --> 01:48:01,295

We're talking about teen movies.

:

01:48:01,295 --> 01:48:03,715

This is strictly a teen

kind of movie like teen

:

01:48:03,815 --> 01:48:04,344

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:48:05,035 --> 01:48:05,434

Mm hmm.

:

01:48:07,125 --> 01:48:09,115

Ryan Rebalkin: I Don't know

which one beats it off top.

:

01:48:09,125 --> 01:48:13,975

I don't know what teen Character

centric film beats this film.

:

01:48:14,085 --> 01:48:16,275

That's where I'll put so I

:

01:48:16,275 --> 01:48:19,550

like Vacation is a more enjoyable.

:

01:48:19,559 --> 01:48:20,000

Like I get a

:

01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:20,630

kick out of it.

:

01:48:20,630 --> 01:48:25,490

Like it's nostalgic to objectively,

this is a better film, obviously,

:

01:48:26,055 --> 01:48:26,175

Katie: mm

:

01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:29,230

Ryan Rebalkin: but we're talking about

nostalgia, what I grew up with and I

:

01:48:29,309 --> 01:48:35,440

I'm a big comedy fan, as you know, so,

but as far as teen film goals, boy,

:

01:48:35,500 --> 01:48:36,860

I don't know at the top of my head.

:

01:48:36,860 --> 01:48:39,620

What would be the, this is

the godfather of teen films.

:

01:48:39,620 --> 01:48:40,010

There you go.

:

01:48:40,355 --> 01:48:43,315

Katie: Ooh, well said Ryan.

:

01:48:43,445 --> 01:48:47,695

Well, listeners tell me what you

think about the breakfast club.

:

01:48:47,695 --> 01:48:50,775

Where does it rank in all of these

different types of categories?

:

01:48:50,775 --> 01:48:52,645

John Hughes, movies, teen movies.

:

01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:57,740

Movies in general it's interesting

that you hadn't seen it in so long.

:

01:48:58,050 --> 01:48:58,500

So that's.

:

01:48:58,990 --> 01:49:02,510

That's a different take, so I'm glad

that you enjoyed it as much as you did.

:

01:49:03,490 --> 01:49:05,160

I could, I really could go on

:

01:49:05,170 --> 01:49:06,660

for 2 more hours talking about this

:

01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:07,330

Ryan Rebalkin: Let's do it.

:

01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:07,590

All right.

:

01:49:07,639 --> 01:49:08,020

Honey,

:

01:49:08,830 --> 01:49:10,540

Katie: but, but.

:

01:49:11,264 --> 01:49:16,885

Sadly, we must now return to present day

reality until the next RetroMate episode.

:

01:49:16,885 --> 01:49:20,895

Ryan, please do tell us because

everyone loves to hear from you.

:

01:49:20,955 --> 01:49:22,525

What should we look forward to?

:

01:49:22,535 --> 01:49:23,105

What's next?

:

01:49:23,105 --> 01:49:25,594

What do you got coming out

on on some of your shows?

:

01:49:26,610 --> 01:49:29,160

Ryan Rebalkin: Again, check out

the worst of the best podcast.

:

01:49:29,250 --> 01:49:32,530

By the time this episode drops, I

think the next episode that I record

:

01:49:32,530 --> 01:49:34,230

with my brother will be recorded.

:

01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,780

And if not already done,

there's a myriad of topics.

:

01:49:36,780 --> 01:49:37,750

Just check out the feed.

:

01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:39,320

You'll see a topic that will interest you.

:

01:49:39,660 --> 01:49:43,100

And I invite you to listen to even the

ones you might not find of interest.

:

01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:45,900

Cause you might find it

interesting to listen to check out.

:

01:49:45,950 --> 01:49:46,980

If you're a Rocky fan.

:

01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:48,059

Yes, of course.

:

01:49:48,059 --> 01:49:50,700

Check out the one more

Round Rocky Series podcast.

:

01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:53,370

And I do a, I've done, it's almost done.

:

01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:53,969

It's almost done.

:

01:49:53,969 --> 01:49:55,860

An Ed Zwick film podcast.

:

01:49:55,860 --> 01:49:57,450

It's a miniseries podcast.

:

01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,850

We've done 12 of the 13 films.

:

01:49:59,850 --> 01:50:01,980

I've had rotating guest host

Katie, you've been on three of

:

01:50:01,980 --> 01:50:03,360

those episodes on that show.

:

01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:04,980

That's a fantastic journey.

:

01:50:05,230 --> 01:50:08,800

Yeah, check out the Zwick Flix,

the Zwick podcast as well.

:

01:50:08,850 --> 01:50:09,350

Katie: It's gone by

:

01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:10,280

very fast.

:

01:50:10,380 --> 01:50:10,770

Ryan Rebalkin: I know.

:

01:50:10,770 --> 01:50:11,370

Very fast.

:

01:50:11,370 --> 01:50:11,639

Yeah,

:

01:50:12,030 --> 01:50:12,719

Katie: Oh PS.

:

01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:17,330

I need some reviews, especially since

it's the new season You don't even have to

:

01:50:17,330 --> 01:50:19,070

write how great you think I am.

:

01:50:19,090 --> 01:50:22,180

Even if you do just just write

gobbledygook in the review

:

01:50:23,330 --> 01:50:23,800

Just kidding.

:

01:50:23,809 --> 01:50:25,120

You can say that you love John Hughes.

:

01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,290

You can say anything you want But please

give me a five star review and with

:

01:50:28,290 --> 01:50:32,980

that Until next time, be kind, rewind.

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