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13th Jun 2024

Three Wishes + Roseanne | S1E31

We are going back to October of 1995 for the likely unknown family drama with a fantasy backdrop, Three Wishes with our everyman, Patrick Swayze, who is joined by the lovely Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio for this lil gem of a movie.

Plus, as promised, I talk about the innovative sitcom Roseanne; you don't want to miss it!

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello, hello.

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I'm Katie and welcome to Retro

Made, your pop culture rewind.

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We're going to go back to October

of:

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to you family drama with a fantasy

backdrop called Three Wishes.

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This is with our everyman, Patrick Swayze.

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And since I went solo for last

episode with a lesser known Kurt

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Russell film doing the same with

Patrick this week I'm very curious

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if you guys have heard of this.

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I will just say at the top, I

don't know why it's less known.

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It's quite good.

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So if you're new to the show, welcome.

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I cover retro movies and the TV, music,

and other pop culture of the time.

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If you've been on this journey with me,

thank you so much for tuning in again.

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And this is your official reminder.

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If you have not rated or reviewed the

show, please, please, please do so.

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Hey, you can do it while

you listen to this episode.

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Hint, hint, hint, hint.

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For those of you that are new, we

start by opening a time capsule.

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So we're going to open the time capsule

from October of:

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movie came out to kind of set the stage

for what was going on in the world.

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Now in this season everyman.

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Kurt Russell and Patrick Stasey.

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We've covered a lot of films.

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We still have a few to go before

the season ends, but we're

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getting to the point where we've

covered a lot of the seasons.

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In terms of Nielsen rated top shows

and this particular season we've

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covered go back to the Tu Wong Foo

episode and that's the 95, 96 season.

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Prime time, so as promised, actually from

the winter people episode last episode,

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I'm going to actually spend some time

talking about 1 particular TV show.

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That is near and dear to me.

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The famous sitcom Roseanne,

and it was actually in the top.

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Of this particular time.

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And as a little added tie in, one of the

actors in Roseanne is also in this movie.

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So we'll get to that.

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Okay.

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So Roseanne, now please stay with me.

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I know that she can be a bit of a

controversial figure, but just stay

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with me, go on this ride with me.

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I'm sure There are many of you out

there like me who adore this show.

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If you need a little refresher,

it is a series that is

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centered on the Connor family.

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They are an American working class

family that is struggling to get by

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on a very limited household income.

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Dan and Roseanne and their

3 young children, Becky,

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Darlene and DJ, they live.

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At 714 Delaware street in the drab

fictional town of Lanford, Illinois.

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Now, later in the series, they do have a

4th child that they named Jerry Garcia.

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Connor cute, right?

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We'll get to that.

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Now, this show ran for 9 seasons

on ABC from:

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And then there was a season 10 revival.

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In 2018, we'll get into

this a little bit now.

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So season 11 was renewed after that

10th season, but if, if you guys can,

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I know that seems like forever ago.

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It's like both seems like yesterday and

also a million years ago,:

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famously fired for some incredibly racist

remarks and she had just kind of gone

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off the, off the deep end on Twitter.

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This was not an isolated incident

because there were several controversial

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tweets insane conspiracy theories.

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So this was not a 1 off, but

that was and as we'll talk about

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it, she wasn't necessarily the

easiest person to work with either.

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So they fired her and smartly.

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They actually pivoted.

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I mean, you fire the

main person on the show.

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So the show was canceled, but

nobody else did anything wrong.

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The cast, the crew.

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So they pivoted and they retooled the show

and it went on to continue as the Connors.

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So technically a spinoff,

but it was basically just the

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same show without Roseanne.

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And I think.

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As of this recording, so it's

June now, but in its 6th and

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final season, maybe it's over.

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I should have checked.

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Maybe it's maybe it has had its finale.

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I have not caught up.

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I have not watched the, the very,

very, very end of the 6th season,

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but I think it's its final season.

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Anyway, so in the new retooled show

Roseanne has died of an opioid overdose.

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Overdose and Dan in the

final episode or fine.

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I'm sorry.

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The final season remarries to

Katie Seagal, Peggy from Al Bundy

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and Peggy married with children.

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Peggy from married with

children took me on it.

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She's in tons of stuff, but I love her.

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So I think that was really cute.

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They had him remarry her.

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Now in the new show, I think in the,

the 10th season when Roseanne was still

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in the 2018 version, they spoke up.

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Here's how they addressed Jerry,

the 4th child not being there.

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He was like working away on

like an oil rig or something.

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I want to say.

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So he wasn't in the show, but they

briefly addressed it the rest of the time.

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He's never mentioned.

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So he's not a part of it.

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It's almost as if they

didn't have the 4th kid.

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Additionally, Jackie.

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In the show has a son.

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Named Andy, but in the resurrected

version of it, he's nowhere to

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be found and is not mentioned.

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So those couple things

kind of irked me about the.

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The newer version of the show, but for the

rest of the conversation, I really would

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like to stick to the original version,

the original 9 seasons that went through

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97 although the Connors is quite good.

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It's it's not doesn't have quite quite

the that the original Roseanne had.

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So, the IMDb shows that this has a

7 out of 10, which is pretty good.

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And I will say that it did receive

positive reviews for its realistic

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portrayal of a working class

American family with 2 parents

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working outside of the home.

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And that the 2 lead characters, Dan and

Roseanne were noticeably overweight, but

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that their weight wasn't necessarily.

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Like a target for the jokes necessarily.

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It was just that's who these people are.

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Okay.

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So we didn't really see that on TV.

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Really, we still don't see

it at all with a couple of

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exceptions that I can think of.

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It was the number 1 show.

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From 1989 to 1990, that was its 2nd

season, number 1 show, it remained

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in the top 4 for 6 out of its 9

original seasons and in the top 20

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for 8 of those one particular episode.

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And I can picture it too.

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It's called the name of the episode is

called a stash from the past is where

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they find their old dope and get high.

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And it's it's a really, really, really

because they're like children in the 60s.

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Now they're adults in the 90s,

raising kids, but that was in 93.

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And that.

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Particular episode was ranked

number 21 on TV guides.

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100 greatest episodes of all

time, pretty high praise, right?

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And then in 2002 TV guide also did

some other rankings and Roseanne

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was ranked number 35 of the top

50 greatest shows of all time.

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And it was in let's see, they

did some more rankings in:

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and it was ranked number 32.

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Of 60 best series of all time.

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Now, John Goodman's character, Dan Connor

was ranked number 13 in TV guides list

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of the 50 greatest TV dads of all time.

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And I think we can all agree.

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We all love Dan.

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Dan's the best.

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So the opening credits is pretty famous.

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It's kind of the trademark view around the

kitchen table and throughout the They're

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doing different activities at the table.

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So, let's see, seasons 1 and 2,

they're eating dessert seasons 3

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and 4, they're playing cards, and

season 5, they're eating pizza.

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Season six and seven,

they're eating Chinese food.

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And then the last two of the regular

seasons, eight and nine, was pretty cool.

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They did like a morphing

of them over the years.

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Starting with their first like, it's

sort of like the portraits you would

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have in the hallway of a family home.

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And then it morphed from, and

Roseanne started and ended it

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because she, she's famous for

having a lot of different looks.

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Over the show, so it just

kind of morphed into that.

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It was pretty cool.

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And I mean, even now, I think

it's, it's a pretty cool effect.

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Several years later.

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And then the blues traveler guy

did the most recent season the last

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show was a little bit different.

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It had lyrics uh, john popper.

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He is the blues, blues traveler guy.

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So he actually was in

an episode or maybe two.

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I think maybe just the one episode

where he plays like a former bandmate

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of Dan's called Stingray Wilson.

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And that was in season eight.

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If you guys remember that, that

episode with the Blues Traveler guy,

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he's, he's a, he's a wild one too.

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Okay.

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So this series Roseanne was

created by Matt Williams.

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And you guys do know who he is.

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He also created or produced Home

Improvement, The Cosby Show, A

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Different World, and some films such

as What Women Want, Wild Hearts Can't

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Be Broken, and Where the Heart Is.

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So that's who Matt Williams

has created, produced.

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I'm sure you've seen these names.

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All over everywhere, Chuck Lorre,

Marcy Carsey, Tom Warner, and then

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that was for the original run.

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And then the later, the later revival

seasons, we have Bruce Helford, Whitney

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Cummings, Sarah Gilbert and Tony

Hernandez and directing shows like this.

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There's usually a lot of different

directors, so that's the case for.

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Most of the seasons, however, John

Pasquin directed the vast majority of

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the episodes for seasons 1, 2, and 10.

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And he's also familiar in that he also

directed many episodes of Family Ties,

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Growing Pains, Alice, and New Heart.

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Alright, so everybody knows Roseanne Barr.

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Is our lead character as Roseanne

Connor, John Goodman playing Dan and

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Roseanne's sister, Jackie Harris is

played by the lovely Laurie Metcalf.

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And she's just.

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Brilliant in this.

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She's my favorite character.

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I feel like I, I relate to Jackie

the most and then the kids.

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So the oldest daughter is Becky

and this is really interesting.

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Actually.

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This is one of those shows that

really had fun with changing the

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actress of the character who played

someone without, it's like they did

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it and then they poked fun at it.

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It was just like, there's

a new Becky, but so Lisey.

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Goranson was the original and she played

Becky from seasons one through five and

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then she came back for season eight.

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And then, then she came back

for the revivals, but the

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seasons where Lacey was not.

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Played by Becky, it was Sarah Chalk

and you guys all know who she is.

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Oh, I forget the character's name,

but she's probably most famous for

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scrubs, but she's in tons of stuff.

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You guys know who she is.

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And I liked some of the things that

they did to poke fun at having 2 Beckys.

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They say on the show something

about Bewitched having two

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Darrens and how that was so dumb.

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How do they think people aren't going

to notice that there's two Darrens?

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And then there's a time

where after Lacey comes back.

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So she's been off the show for a

couple of years since she comes back.

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It's not addressed other

than a couple of times.

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One time, Roseanne, another time, Darlene

says, where the hell have you been?

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She's like, why do people

keep asking me this?

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Let's see.

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Oh, Sarah Chalk actually made a cameo.

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So the second Becky makes the cameo just

as a random mom with trick or treaters

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in one of the Halloween episodes.

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And she says something like, Oh,

this looks like a cute house or a fun

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Halloween house or something like that.

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And then they go to Disney world.

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As they do back in, back in

the day, that was like a thing

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because Disney owns I don't know.

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Did they own ABC or something?

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I don't know.

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Something like that.

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They go to Disney World and second

Becky is there for this particular.

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So there's one season, I think maybe

it was season eight where it was

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both Becky's had different episodes,

which was a little interesting.

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So the Disney World one, Roseanne

is like, Oh, isn't it nice

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that you're here this week?

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Something like that.

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And then there's a play

on the Patty Duke show.

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You know, how, how sometimes

sitcoms will have like little.

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Like buttons or a little little scenes

at the end of the show and this one was

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a little skit about patty duke I think

it was even in black and white of the

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two becky's they're like two becky's

they're nearly identical becky's Which

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must be the Patty Duke theme song.

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So anyway, that's the two Beckys.

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I actually did not like

Sarah Chalk in this at all.

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She was probably the weakest actress.

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I just didn't, I don't know.

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I did not like how she played Becky.

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I really liked the original Becky.

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Sarah Gilbert plays Darlene, and then

Michael Fishman plays DJ, the youngest,

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the, the boy, and DJ stands for David

Jacob, and what's interesting about the

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character DJ is that the pilot episode

had a different actor playing DJ.

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Then the rest of the run.

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So Michael Fishman plays him the entire

series, except for the pilot episode.

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And his name was Sal Barone.

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Apparently I also read that Macaulay

Culkin auditioned for the role

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of DJ, but the role was actually

given to Michael Fishman because

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he looked so much more like.

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Roseanne and the family

just had, had that look.

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And he was really good.

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I will say when DJ's little,

I think he's pretty good.

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And I don't really like kids in things.

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Like they're just not, I,

they're usually not good.

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And the Connor kids are really good.

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I think which probably helps

my enjoyment of the show.

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However, the exception to that

is somehow Michael Fishman's

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acting gets worse over time.

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So as he grows up, it's.

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It doesn't hit.

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I don't, I don't like it.

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So he and Sarah Chalk

don't, don't like them.

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But then the rest of the cast,

so that's the main family.

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Then Natalie West plays Roseanne's

really good friend, Crystal.

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And she ends up marrying Dan's dad.

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Played by Ned Beatty, Ed O'Connor,

or not O'Connor, just Ed Connor.

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He marries Crystal later.

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That's kind of a whole big

controversy of the show.

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Bev Harris is Roseanne and Jackie's mom.

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She's played by Estelle Parsons.

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And then we have Mark and David Healy.

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So, this is a show where Becky,

the oldest daughter, goes out with

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and ends up marrying the cool you

know, bad guy that the Connors hate.

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Dan and Roseanne hate him,

but they end up, they, I think

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she's like 17 when they elope.

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Anyway, that's Mark Healy, and

he is played by Glenn Quinn,

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who's really good looking.

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he actually passed away.

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We'll talk a little bit

more about that in a second.

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He's an Irish actor and you wouldn't

know it because he doesn't, you

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know, he's, he's able to do the

Chicago and accent pretty well.

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And then his little brother.

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David is played by Johnny Galecki.

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And you guys all know who he is.

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He's been in tons of things, but like

most recently in Leonard in the big bang

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theory, but what's also interesting here.

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So not only are the two brothers

dating the two sisters, so

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Becky and Mark are together and

David and Darlene are together.

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And then over the series, David

ends up sort of being like Like an

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adopted son, he ends up living with

the Connors because his mom is not

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a great mom, kind of an abusive mom.

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But when we originally meet

this character, Mark's little

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brother, his name is Kevin.

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And then the next time we meet

him, and then for the rest of

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the series, his name's David.

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We get a hilarious portrayal

of Leon, played by Martin Mull.

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Originally, and so he, he's in it a lot.

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So originally, he's the boss of.

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Roseanne when she works at the,

so Roseanne over the course of the

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show has so many different jobs.

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One of which is a waitress at a mall

diner called Rod Bell's for them.

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Yeah.

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Rod Bell's department store.

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And there's a diner in it and Martin mall

and Roseanne are just like, they have this

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This relationship, they hate each other,

but then they end up being business

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partners later when Roseanne and Jackie

and Sandra Bernhardt's character,

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which we'll get to Nancy, they go

in and buy their own little diner.

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They call it the land for

lunchbox and Richard mall as Leon.

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Becomes one of their partners because

these ladies don't really know

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how to run a business and he does.

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So anyway, his character is gay and his.

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Partner on the show is

played by Fred Willard.

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His name is Scott on the show, but

they're, they're hilarious on this.

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So Fred Willard and Martin mall both

straight, but they play these gay

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characters on Roseanne and it's hilarious.

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And then Sandra Bernhardt

plays Nancy, also a friend.

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So it's a small town.

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Everybody's kind of friends.

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Everybody grew up, went

to high school together.

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And Nancy, who is originally

dating and marries.

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Tom Arnold's character, Arnie, who's

like the wacky, crazy, like weird

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friend of Dan that everybody knows.

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He's kind of, you know, it's Arnie

who, so Tom Arnold at that time was

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actually married to Roseanne Barr.

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So that's probably why he was

on the show, but Arnie and Nancy

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get together and they're married.

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And then when they get divorced, she

realizes that she's into women.

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And then we get all these guest

stars of people that she's dated.

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Like Morgan Fairchild is

one of her girlfriends and

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everybody's like, how are you?

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And like Muriel Hemingway.

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Is that right?

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Yeah, they're it's like how Nancy,

how are you getting all these

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like super attractive women?

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Anyway, that's kind of funny.

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Let's see.

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Who else do we have?

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Oh, please don't forget the George

Clooney was also in Roseanne first season.

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Maybe the 2nd, but he plays Booker.

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I love that.

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Name, first of all, and he originally

plays their boss or supervisor.

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I should say when they

work at Wellman's plastics.

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So Jackie crystal, like all the

friends all work at Wellman's

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together in this plastics factory.

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And he's their supervisor.

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And then Jackie ends up

dating him for a while.

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Because why wouldn't you?

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Yeah, and then their friends, they have

some other friends in this town, Chucky

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and Annemarie, and they are probably

one of only a couple of black characters

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that we meet, their friends the reason

I bring that up is because, you know,

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It does come up in some of the episodes

there's because they cover kind of

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hard to discuss topics like racism.

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Anyway, Chuckie is played

by James Pickens jr.

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And you guys know him.

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Well, from a number of things, but he

played Dr Richard Weber on Grey's Anatomy

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and then Ann Marie, his wife is played by.

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Adela Barnes, and then another 1

of the waitresses at that diner

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with Martin mall playing Leon,

the Rockwell's diner is waitress.

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Bonnie.

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I always really liked her character too.

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So Bonnie, she's that blonde like,

looks like she's um, like a truckers.

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Not a trucker, a bike, a biker's

woman, you know, like she

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kind of has that look to her.

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Well, turns out she in real life.

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So she's played by Bonnie Bramlett.

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So that's her, her real name.

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She was a backup singer

for Crosby, Stills and Nash

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And in fact, her, she, she calls him this, her old man on the show

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is actually played by David Crosby.

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So he's one of the guest stars.

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So that's fun.

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And then Shelly Winters plays Nana

Mary and she's one of my favorites too.

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She's hilarious.

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, so Nana Mary is Jackie and

Roseanne's grandmother.

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So she's, she's in this.

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And then I alluded to some guest stars.

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There are so many I don't, I don't even

know where to start with the guest stars,

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but some that had a longer roles or more

of a recurring role would be Jim Varney.

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Do you guys remember when it's

probably not the best season, but

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once once they win the lottery.

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Jackie and Roseanne go on this

quest of being rich, essentially,

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and they meet this prince, prince

something or other, I forget.

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But it's, he's played by Jim Varney.

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So that's probably one

of the most famous ones.

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Then some of the others, Sharon Stone

plays like, Hers is kind of funny.

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Like a trailer park, trashy lady Morgan

Fairchild, Florence Henderson, Ellen

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DeGeneres, Loretta Lynn, Tim Curry.

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I kind of forgot about him.

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He, he scams them out of

some money, Stephen Root.

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Christopher Lloyd, French Stuart,

Jerry Springer, Marlowe, Thomas,

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Steven Seagal, James Brolin.

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He plays like the son of, again, once

they're rich I think Roseanne is actually

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like, there's a period of time where Dan's

kind of out of the picture for a while.

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And Roseanne is like romantically

interested in the son of the

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The Really Rich Wellman, and

it's played by James Brolin.

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It's quite lovely because they're

like, God, you're good looking.

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And he is.

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And then we have Dan Florek, Toby McGuire,

Brad Garrett plays a lone officer.

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Wayne Newton plays himself.

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Neil Patrick Harris, Ed

Begley Jr., Joan Collins.

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Joseph Gordon Levitt plays a

super annoying friend of DJ's.

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DJ can't stand him.

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And actually, I think he's

the son of Florence Henderson.

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Or maybe I'm confusing another kid.

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Paul Feig, Vicky Lawrence plays an

old flame of Dan's and that sparks

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a fight between Dan and Roseanne.

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Mariel Hemingway plays another

love interest of Nancy.

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Danny Masterson, Tracy Lourdes, Ashley

Johnson, Dawn Wells, Jenna Elfman,

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Rhea Sehorne, Bruce Willis, Fred

Thompson, and Jack McGee, who we've

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talked about on this show a few times.

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So lots of guest stars.

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I could have gone on for five more minutes

about guest stars, but so I love this show

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and so did the award shows the Emmys in

93 both Roseanne Barr and Laurie Metcalf,

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who plays Jackie one Emmys for their

respective categories and then the series.

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Was nominated for 27 different

Emmys overall through its series and

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despite it's getting a ton of critical

praise and the super high ratings.

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The show itself was never

nominated for best comedy series.

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Which I did not realize, but

they did get some Golden Globes.

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So the series won the Golden Globe award

for best television series, musical or

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comedy in 93, as did Roseanne and John

Goodman for their respective categories.

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And then the series itself also

won both a Peabody award in 92.

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And a People's Choice Award for Favorite

New Television Comedy Program in 89.

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And then Roseanne Barr herself

won 5 more People's Choice Awards.

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For let's see, female favorite female

performer in a new TV program for

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80 in 89 favorite female all around

entertainer in 90 favorite female TV

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performer in 90, 94 and 95 and then

once the TV land awards came about.

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The whole cast in 2008, except for

Lori Metcalf, reunited at the TV Land

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Awards to receive the Innovator Award.

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And in their acceptance speech, they

did honor their late cast member,

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Glenn Quinn, who we talked about as

playing Mark Healy, Becky's husband.

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He was born in Dublin, and he passed away.

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In 2002, he was only 32 years

old and unfortunately he

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passed of a heroin overdose.

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So that's really sad.

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I really liked his

character a lot on the show.

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So that's kind of a bummer.

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And if you guys were watchers of

this, you probably love it for many

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reasons, but some of their holiday

shows, those are by far my favorites

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every year they had a spectacular

Halloween special and Thanksgiving.

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It was awesome.

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You guys, I hope that I'm not

the only one who loves this.

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Please let me know.

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Roseanne has been married several times.

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All three of her ex husbands.

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Bill Pentland, Tom Arnold, and

Ben Thomas have made at least

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one guest appearance on the show.

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Supposedly both Roseanne and Laurie

Metcalf had a crush on John Goodman.

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And then those of you who watch the show

a lot will, will know what I'm talking

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about, but there was one episode in

season five, all about the chicken shirt.

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So that's actually another thing I really

like about this show is it not only

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seems normal, but they re, they rewear

clothes like a normal person would.

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So it's not a new outfit

every time we see them.

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So I think those are nice touches,

but there's this shirt, this

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is white oversized t shirt with

a chicken and an egg on it.

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And usually it's wearing worn by Roseanne,

but there's an episode that in different

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scenes, a different cast member wears it.

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So all 5 of the different cast

members are seen wearing it.

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And I don't know if this is true or not,

but that that was done in part to annoy.

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Tom Arnold at that time was her ex

husband who apparently hated the shirt.

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So that's kind of fun.

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:

Now it was not originally called Roseanne.

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:

Life and stuff.

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Can you guys imagine that?

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No.

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I think Roseanne is way better.

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:

David and Mark are brothers, right?

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So Johnny Galecki and Glenn.

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Quinn.

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David never calls them Dan and Roseanne.

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It's always Mr.

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or Mrs.

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Conner.

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But the opposite is true of Mark.

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The older brother never calls them Mrs.

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Conner.

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He says Dan or Roseanne.

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That's interesting, eh?

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There's an episode where DJ is

supposed to kiss a girl in his class.

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In a, you know, like a

kid's theater performance,

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whatever show they were doing.

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I don't know if it was

Romeo and Juliet or what.

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And he didn't want to kiss the girl.

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And it turns out that he didn't want

to kiss her because she was black.

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And so they explored that on

this episode and her name in the

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episode, the girl's name is Gina.

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Well, as it turns out, those of you who

know, know where I'm going with this.

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That's who he ends up married

to in the revival of the series.

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It's that same girl and they have a

daughter named Mary but Gina's not

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really in it because she is stationed in,

I want to say Iraq, maybe Afghanistan.

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She's in the military.

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So she's stationed somewhere else.

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:

So DJ sort of acts as a single

father in it, but so that's a

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nice little closed loop situation.

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, so Jackie has a ton of

boyfriends on the show.

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One of whom is named Fisher.

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Not to be confused with Booker

but that particular relationship

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on the show ends violently.

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Fisher is physically abusive to Jackie

and Dan beats him up and gets arrested and

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it's, it's a, they somehow make it funny.

501

:

Like an abusive episode is funny.

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Well, the actress and

actor who played them.

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So Lori Metcalf and Matt Roth, who played

Fisher, they actually started dating.

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In 1993, after Ralph's run of the

show was complete, they married in

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2005 and we're together until 2014.

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I did not know that fun tidbit.

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Okay, so I guess I have to touch

on the controversy that happened.

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So Roseanne, I think she's kind of known

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for having some mental health

struggles and she always has

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been a bit out there and.

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Notorious for behaving badly and just.

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I don't know, behind the scenes of

the show, cast and crew associated,

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you know, and with interviews

with executives, they actually had

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previously considered dumping her from

the show because there was so much.

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She just caused a lot of trouble throwing

temper tantrums, screaming at people,

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locking herself in the dressing room,

storming off, threatening to quit.

517

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So just, you know, a little bit of a

diva, I guess, you know, a little too

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big for her britches, shall we say.

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But also.

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Yeah, I think, and I don't think she's

really hidden the fact that she struggles

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with, with some mental health issues.

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The producers when interviewed, I

think it was Marcy Carsey, those two.

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They considered her to be

a nightmare to work with.

524

:

And so all of these things probably

didn't help her cause when she made a

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:

pretty significant mistake on Twitter.

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But, like I said, it wasn't

an isolated incident.

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She was like, leading up to this, you

know, exhibiting a lot of self destructive

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behavior with lots of conspiracy theories

and it wasn't her 1st racist tweet either.

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So I say all that to, so she got fired.

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:

And I'm glad that the show went on

because no, the rest of the cast

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and crew deserved to have the show.

532

:

And they, even when they re

resurrected the show, they were

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:

already worried about her behavior.

534

:

So they made a deal with her to, they're

like, listen, you got to stay off Twitter.

535

:

And she was like, okay.

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I will, and then she didn't.

537

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So they're like, you know, we gave you

chances and, and yeah, you effed it up.

538

:

Sorry, lady.

539

:

It's your fault.

540

:

But I will say, having said

all that, I love this show.

541

:

I'm able to look past that.

542

:

Right?

543

:

So I think that Roseanne is an

extremely well written and acted

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sitcom about a tight knit family.

545

:

That's working class.

546

:

They tackle some extremely topical

social issues, but in a funny.

547

:

And smart and innovative way.

548

:

And I regularly watch this.

549

:

I consider it a comfort show and

she's always been controversial.

550

:

You know, I know I get it.

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:

Like some people I get it.

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:

But part of the reason that the show

is so beloved is because she and

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the show weren't afraid to tackle

those hard issues about, you know, we

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:

talked about a few of them now, but.

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Abuse, abortion, gay characters, front and

center, mental health, depression, racism,

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classism, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

557

:

So like a lot of real things, it

wasn't just like a surface level

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sitcom, but they tackled it in

a really realistic, funny way.

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And I think that's hard to do.

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, I can't really wrap my

head around someone that.

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:

early on.

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:

She went from championing these types

of issues to devolving like really

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:

rapidly into some pretty dark places.

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:

But like I said, I'm still able to watch

the show and very much enjoy the show.

565

:

And aside from when DJ gets a little

older, he's like, not, not a great

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kid actor, but it's a genuine show.

567

:

It's a funny show.

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:

And a lot of times those

two things are hard.

569

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To combine.

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:

And I think that's a little bit

of the magic here with Roseanne.

571

:

It might be in my top five, but if

not in the top five, it's definitely

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in my top 10 sitcoms of all time.

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:

I frigging love it.

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:

And here's where you guys can watch it.

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:

I watched it on cozy TV.

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:

I think it's on CMT too, if you get that.

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:

And then it streams on

Peacock and Sling TV.

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:

So I would love to hear from

you guys, email me or comment on

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:

YouTube or on the Facebook page.

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When I post about this episode let

me know what you think of Roseanne.

581

:

Do you still watch it?

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:

Do you like it?

583

:

Did you, did you hate it from the get go?

584

:

Let me know.

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:

Okay, we're going to continue on now.

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:

Thank you for indulging me

in my little Roseanne mini.

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:

To continue to set the stage in

our time capsule from October

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of 95, the top 10 billboards.

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From that particular week, October, 27th.

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Number one is Fantasy by Mariah Carey.

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:

Number two, Gangsta's Paradise, which

is from the Dangerous Minds movie.

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:

That's Coolio featuring LV.

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:

Janet Jackson's Runaway is number three.

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:

Number four is Kiss from a Rose by Seal.

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:

I hate that song.

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:

Number five is You Are Not

Alone by Michael Jackson.

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:

And then you guys remember, I

totally forgot about this until now.

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:

As I Lay Me Down by Sophie B.

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:

Hawkins.

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:

I know, you know, this song I

had forgotten about it until now.

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:

Number seven.

602

:

I do not know what this is.

603

:

I looked it up.

604

:

It's pretty good.

605

:

It's called tell me by groove theory.

606

:

It's actually pretty good song.

607

:

Like an R it's a woman

singer and an R and B song.

608

:

It's pretty good.

609

:

But have no memory of that.

610

:

Hootie and the Blowfish only,

only want to be with you.

611

:

Hate it.

612

:

Cannot stand it.

613

:

Maybe for the first two times I heard

it, it was like, all right, yeah.

614

:

But it got played out so fast.

615

:

It's one of those for me anyway.

616

:

Number nine, it's called Back for

Good and the band is called Take That.

617

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You know, the song it's like,

I want you back for good.

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:

I want you back for good.

619

:

It's a lesser.

620

:

It's a boy band that's just lesser famous.

621

:

They didn't quite make it to the level of

Backstreet Boys and NSYNC at that time.

622

:

So that's what that's who Take That is.

623

:

And you guys know the song.

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:

I know you do.

625

:

And then number 10, a very

famous song by Natalie Merchant.

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:

It's her Carnival song.

627

:

Very good song.

628

:

It's just different.

629

:

Yeah, I quite like it.

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:

Please.

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:

Katie: Okay.

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:

News and events from October of 1995.

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:

Farm Aid 8, took me a minute

to do those roman numerals.

634

:

I did not realize there were eight of

these, but in 95 performers include Willie

635

:

Nelson, John Mellencamp, Neil Young,

Hootie and the Blowfish, Dave Matthews

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:

Band, John Conley, and Steve Earle.

637

:

Also at this time was the O.

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:

J.

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:

verdict.

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:

Oh, man.

641

:

I think everyone was glued to

the TV for however long this

642

:

trial lasted, but in October, do

you guys remember what happened?

643

:

Hmm?

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:

O.

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:

J.

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Simpson is found not guilty of the murder

of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman in L.

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:

A.

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:

Oy the Million Man March

was held in Washington, D.

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:

C.

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:

Was this the, I guess I thought it was

earlier, but yeah, 95 Million Man March.

651

:

So, it's over, there was over 830, 000

African American men that attended.

652

:

Maybe it was closer to a million

because that's not quite a million,

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:

but that's what they called it.

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:

, Quebec votes in a referendum

to remain a part of Canada.

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:

I feel like that happens it's like Brexit.

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:

And I feel like Texas is always

trying to leave the U S or California.

657

:

I like the like, we don't need you.

658

:

Well, Quebec decides.

659

:

We actually do need Canada apparently.

660

:

So that happened.

661

:

Now we have a few weddings and

deaths before we get into what

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:

movies were happening at the time.

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:

So Ted Danson of Cheers Mary's Academy

Award winning actress, Mary Steenburgen.

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:

They're an adorable Hollywood couple.

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:

Love them.

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:

Also Family Ties actress, Meredith Baxter.

667

:

She weds screenwriter Michael Blodgett.

668

:

Do you guys know who the

first Miss America was?

669

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Miss America from 1921.

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:

Apparently that's the first time.

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:

Her name is Margaret Gorman Cahill and

in October of:

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:

Also, British prime minister died at 92.

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:

Shit.

674

:

Which one was it?

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:

It's Alec Douglas Holm.

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:

He was the conservative party from

:

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:

And.

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:

Britain and he died at

age 92 Alec Douglas home

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:

Also Paolo Gucci died

now who's Paolo Gucci.

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:

There's a long line of the fashion

designers He's the son of Aldo

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:

Gucci the grandson of Gucci.

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:

Oh Gucci.

683

:

Who's the founder of the company?

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:

So Paolo died at age 64 Shannon Hoon Is

Oh, you guys remember, you maybe don't

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:

know the name, Shannon Hoon, Shannon was

the vocalist of the band blind melon and

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:

he died of a drug overdose at age 28.

687

:

I, I loved that.

688

:

I love, I really liked blind

melon, the one, like the

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:

song with the B in the field.

690

:

Yeah, you guys know what I'm talking

about, but his name was Shannon Hoon.

691

:

I don't think I knew that.

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:

Okay.

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:

Well, Three Wishes was

the, it's not Baudwell.

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:

It's the number 27 movie in October.

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:

I like, there were so many

movies that came out back in

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:

the day in the mid nineties.

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:

There were so many movies

that it came in at 27.

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:

Now that doesn't sound that great, right?

699

:

However, to be fair, Mallrats was number

30 and Empire Records was number 40, like

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:

that many movies and like in the theater

and during October and those both Mallrats

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:

and Empire Records have cult followings.

702

:

Like they, I especially Empire

Records friggin love that movie.

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:

So.

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:

I don't know.

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:

I guess the nineties were just

wild that way, but I don't

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:

think anybody really knew.

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:

I'm not sure what this, what the deal

is because 3 wishes is a good movie.

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:

Anyway, but the movies that really

did top the box office at this time,

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:

we have 7 get shorty assassins, dead

presidents, how to make an American quilt.

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:

To die for devil in a blue dress

now and then Halloween, the curse

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:

of Michael Myers, the big green

and dangerous minds, of course.

712

:

Let's get into the movie three wishes.

713

:

It was released on October 27th, 1995.

714

:

It's rated PG.

715

:

And I did have to double check that

because we get some Swayze butt in it.

716

:

And I don't know what the

rules are for these ratings.

717

:

It has a 6.

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:

1 on IMDB and the director here is

Martha Coolidge, who also directed

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:

Valley Girl and Real Genius.

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:

And I thought, I wonder if she

is related to Jennifer Coolidge.

721

:

So I looked it up and she is.

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:

They don't know each other though.

723

:

They've not met, but

they're somehow related.

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:

They are both, you know, far relatives

of the late president, Calvin Coolidge.

725

:

That's funny.

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:

And then, so that's the

director, Martha Coolidge.

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:

We have writers Clifford Green

and Ellen Green, and they are a

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:

husband and wife writing team.

729

:

They did divorce in 2004, though.

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:

But they both, they, they, They

wrote on like Space Camp in:

731

:

and Bless This Child in 2000.

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:

And then the other writer

is Elizabeth Anderson.

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:

She doesn't have not very many

credits, but they do include the

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:

1994 movie, Lassie and the Little

Return to the Sea in:

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:

Our cast, we have our Patrick

Swayze, our, one of our ultimate

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:

everyman, and he plays Jack McCloud.

737

:

And this is the third time that

he has played someone named Jack.

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:

This movie, Black Dog and Fatherhood.

739

:

Did you know that?

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:

Now you do.

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:

The lovely Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio

plays Jeannie You guys definitely know

742

:

her, probably most known for playing

Tony Montana's sister, Gina, in Scarface.

743

:

She also played Maid Marian in

Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.

744

:

She's friggin gorgeous.

745

:

You guys gotta watch this movie.

746

:

So, her name's Jeannie,

and then her son is Tom.

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:

She's got two sons.

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:

The main character is Tom.

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:

He's played by Joseph Mazzello, who

also was Tim in the Jurassic Park movie.

750

:

The first one, I think, and the river

wild and also the social network.

751

:

Seth Mooney plays Gunny,

the little brother, and he's

752

:

a really cute kid in this.

753

:

I, I thought so anyway, he did a couple

of things, but he did not continue acting.

754

:

So it doesn't really have any

other credits to speak of.

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:

Phil.

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:

Who is trying to, he's like,

not really her love interest,

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:

but he's trying to date.

758

:

And he's played by David Marshall Grant.

759

:

He's also in Forever Young, The

Stepford Wives, The Devil Wears Prada.

760

:

And then he also was a producer of

the Brothers and Sisters TV series.

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:

So he's pretty well known.

762

:

There's a little league team in

this coached by Coach Shremka.

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:

And J.

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O.

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:

Sanders plays him.

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:

He does have a lot of credits.

767

:

Let's see, Kiss the Girls and Along Came

a Spider, which I think is that the same

768

:

book series, The Day After Tomorrow and

Daylight with my man Sylvester Stallone.

769

:

Michael O'Keefe.

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:

Okay, here we go.

771

:

Here is our crossover.

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:

Actor from Roseanne, he plays Jackie's

boyfriend, husband, baby's father

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:

of her son Fred in this movie.

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:

He's our narrator.

775

:

We have it's 1 of those and he's the

adult version of Tom, the main character.

776

:

Yeah, but I think he's probably

most known for playing Fred and

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:

Roseanne, but he is in a lot of stuff.

778

:

He was nominated for an Oscar

for his supporting role in

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:

the great Santini from 1979.

780

:

Never seen that, but maybe

I should check it out.

781

:

And then has anyone seen Sneaky

Pete with Giovanni Ribisi?

782

:

I love him and it's a,

it's a cute, fun show.

783

:

I can't remember what streamer it was on.

784

:

But he's the detective.

785

:

Michael O'Keefe plays the

detective in that and lots,

786

:

he's just in a ton of things.

787

:

Now, another actor that carries

over into one of our other

788

:

episode is John Deal in this.

789

:

He plays one of one of Tom's friends

on the little league team Leland.

790

:

He plays Leland's dad, and

he's not really a very likable

791

:

character, which we'll get into,

792

:

.

John Deal who plays him is known for his role in the client.

793

:

And we actually talked about him

in the Stargate episode because

794

:

he plays Kowalski, one of the

other military guys in Stargate.

795

:

And then we have Joyce is a friend.

796

:

I don't know if she's her

sister or her friend of Jeannie.

797

:

Her name is Joyce and she's

played by Diane Venora and she

798

:

was actually nominated for a

Golden Globe in Bird from:

799

:

She played Justine in Heat.

800

:

Great movie.

801

:

And I thought this was

interesting cause I loved this.

802

:

I don't really recall her in it, but

oria, AKA Lady Capulet in the:

803

:

Romeo and Juliet, you know, the one

with Claire Danes and Leonardo DiCaprio.

804

:

Yeah, that's her.

805

:

And then little Leland, the, the boy,

the friend is played by David Zahorsky.

806

:

He is in this and my summer

story in 94 and that's it.

807

:

Just that the music is by Cynthia

Miller and Miller is spelled with

808

:

an a R and she's not, she did a

lot of made for TV movies, music in

809

:

those, but not any big, big Hollywood

movies that I really took note of.

810

:

Okay, so I guarantee that the vast

majority of you have not seen this.

811

:

So thank you for

listening and go watch it.

812

:

It's, it's really good.

813

:

But I'm gonna talk about it so

that you don't, you aren't lost.

814

:

So the description is when Jeannie

Holman is driving with her two sons,

815

:

Tom and Gunny, she accidentally

runs into a drifter named Jack

816

:

McLeod, who breaks his leg.

817

:

Feeling sorry for him, she invites

Jack and his dog, Betty Jane, to stay

818

:

at her house until his leg has healed.

819

:

After having some difficulties to

adapt to his new lifestyle, Jack

820

:

soon, soon finds himself loved by the

family and they all want him to stay.

821

:

When he starts teaching baseball

to Tom, Who misses his father.

822

:

Who's missing in the Korean war.

823

:

The two of them develop a strong bond.

824

:

Meanwhile, Gunny believes

that there's more to Jack and

825

:

Betty Jane than meets the eye.

826

:

And he's determined to find out the

budget of this was 10 million and

827

:

it made 7 million in the box office.

828

:

Not great.

829

:

Okay.

830

:

So I don't, I don't know.

831

:

I don't think whether something

makes money really has.

832

:

Sometimes I guess it's an

indicator of a good movie, but

833

:

a lot of times it takes a while.

834

:

You know, there's a lot of cult followings

or just the movies that make money.

835

:

A lot of times, in my opinion, now are

just like these, there's no risks taken.

836

:

I'll just say that.

837

:

So plus in the nineties, there

were tons of independent movies.

838

:

As we talked about, there was

like well over 40 movies in

839

:

the theater that were ranked.

840

:

So I am telling you

guys watch three wishes.

841

:

I think you'll like it.

842

:

Yeah, it's like a family.

843

:

Family drama that's got some

fantasy elements to it, which is

844

:

totally not my jam, like at all.

845

:

I'm kind of surprised.

846

:

I like this.

847

:

Honestly, if Patrick Swayze

wasn't in it, I probably wouldn't

848

:

have given it a chance either.

849

:

But

850

:

okay, so it opens with a picture

perfect suburban neighborhood.

851

:

That's very 90s, right?

852

:

With people doing things, kids playing

and there's a voiceover about it being

853

:

Memorial Day and this is present day.

854

:

So we quickly see behind the facade of.

855

:

Things being perfect and the reality

is financial troubles for Tom, our main

856

:

character, and they're headed to the

cemetery because it's Memorial Day.

857

:

And there's chaos in the car.

858

:

The kids are fighting in the backseat.

859

:

He's worried about losing his

business and probably his house soon.

860

:

And he's visibly annoyed

by the kids fighting.

861

:

He's just not in a good head space.

862

:

And so he almost hits this guy and

his dog walking into the cemetery.

863

:

And we see him kind of

longingly look like Hmm.

864

:

Do I know him?

865

:

And it spurs the memory.

866

:

So now we're back in 1955 when he's a kid.

867

:

It's also Memorial Day.

868

:

So now we have Tom and

his little brother Gunny.

869

:

They're headed to the cemetery with

their now Widowed mother, Jeannie.

870

:

And so the dad is presumed

to be dead in the Korean war.

871

:

And Jeannie does actually hit a

man with her car accidentally.

872

:

And it's a quote unquote

drifter and it's Patrick Swayze.

873

:

So his name is Jack and

that's who she hits.

874

:

She actually Not just a little bump.

875

:

She hits him and it breaks

his leg and he's with his dog.

876

:

Who's named Betty Jane,.

877

:

And I don't know if maybe I've just

watched too many Sylvester Sloan movies,

878

:

but I got major Rambo vibes out at the

scene because there's a cop there that

879

:

comes to the scene and he's a major

dick and the guy, he, you guys know the

880

:

actor too, maybe not by his name, but

the name of the actor is Neil McDonough.

881

:

I don't know if I'm pronouncing

that right, McDonough.

882

:

And he, he's in Desperate

Housewives, Yellowstone,

883

:

Boomtown, Band of Brothers, etc.

884

:

He's in tons of stuff.

885

:

So that's who the cop is

and he's a real prick.

886

:

He actually, so the, the mom

is Oh my God, I'm so sorry.

887

:

Oh my God.

888

:

She tries to go over to him.

889

:

The cop stops her and he gets mad

at Jack for running into a car.

890

:

And hey, don't forget

hitchhiking is illegal.

891

:

Get out of here.

892

:

Seemed very Rambo, right?

893

:

Anyway, so what's wild is, okay,

she's a single mother with two little

894

:

kids and she's gorgeous and despite

all of her intuition and all of her

895

:

friends and neighbors, major unease,

she invites this man, strange man

896

:

to come stay with her and her kids.

897

:

She does just that.

898

:

And the idea is, oh, you know, cause

he doesn't want to put her out.

899

:

He's a nice guy.

900

:

Plus it's Patrick Swayze.

901

:

The idea is until his leg heals.

902

:

So I mean, I was watching it

being very uneasy to I would never

903

:

do that, but also most drifters

don't look like Patrick Swayze.

904

:

So I don't know.

905

:

I kind of get it.

906

:

Here's what Patrick Swayze

looks like as a drifter.

907

:

I mean, it's, I don't know.

908

:

He doesn't look, he's got a

very well manicured beard.

909

:

He has like a tweed sport coat on.

910

:

And one of those like newsboy caps

that I find super hot, AKA Tommy

911

:

Shelby, anyone from the Peaky Blinders?

912

:

I just love that look.

913

:

So anyway, he does not

look like your typical.

914

:

Drifter person transient type.

915

:

So

916

:

it's really quite nice.

917

:

Obviously we get all of these nice

scenes because leading up to this, Tom

918

:

is missing out on the dad son activities.

919

:

They're at this picnic for Memorial Day.

920

:

And there's, like, all these

activities for dads and their sons

921

:

to do and Tom doesn't have a dad.

922

:

He's on the baseball team.

923

:

He's really not very good at it.

924

:

You know, all the dads are

there, but he doesn't have a dad.

925

:

Also at that picnic, there's

all these jello molds.

926

:

It was just kind of a fun little

reminiscent thing of the fifties

927

:

and sixties, I guess when

jello molds A thing that people

928

:

brought to a potluck type deal.

929

:

So Tom wants a dad.

930

:

He doesn't have a dad.

931

:

And wouldn't, you know, Jack ends up

sort of filling that role for Tom.

932

:

He like majorly helps this baseball team.

933

:

Who's not good.

934

:

Get good.

935

:

He meditates, which at the time

in the fifties, like that's gotta

936

:

be wild, but he teaches them.

937

:

You know, like the mental piece

of baseball and he, he has a

938

:

saying to the boys he's like,

try to just do the opposite.

939

:

You're, you're too much in your head

trying to swing and hit, try and miss.

940

:

And then he helps them meditate.

941

:

So he has the idea it's like

everything contains its own opposite.

942

:

I think it's the saying that he says

to help the, the, the boys get good.

943

:

He also helps Tom practice

his swinging and batting.

944

:

I should say he's on crutches, but

he pitches to him and that will

945

:

come into play here in a second.

946

:

Because the coach of the little,

this little league team, he's

947

:

like, Hmm, who is this mystery man?

948

:

And he's like, Jack McLeod, that was this

White Sox player from back in the day.

949

:

And I don't know whatever happened to him.

950

:

He was really good, but he was only

on the, on the team for one season.

951

:

He just disappeared.

952

:

So now all the dads and everybody,

they're like, Oh, now they're like,

953

:

Oh, we like this drifter, man.

954

:

Cause he's a famous baseball

player, but Jack denies it.

955

:

Getting back to him filling that dad

role, Tom even gets him a Father's Day

956

:

card for Father's Day, and it breaks

Jack's heart because he knows he's

957

:

not going to be able he knows he can't

stay and be a dad to Tom But it's a

958

:

really heartwarming series of scenes.

959

:

I don't know.

960

:

And I don't even have kids.

961

:

You'd think I wouldn't

care, but it's great.

962

:

I do want to touch on the house because

I love mid century modern decor,

963

:

house architecture, all of that.

964

:

Their house is awesome.

965

:

It's super sweet, mid century modern

house, and I'm not entirely sure where

966

:

this is set, but my guess is Palm Springs,

and it gives me Palm Springs vibes and we

967

:

see at the edge of the town or the edge

s new suburban development in:

968

:

there's a billboard that

says it advertises family

969

:

dream homes, starting at.

970

:

Any guesses you guys how much

these dream houses costs?

971

:

1955?

972

:

13, 500.

973

:

I thought that was funny.

974

:

And then.

975

:

Okay.

976

:

Okay.

977

:

Let me see here.

978

:

How do I tell you about the nude

sunbathing by Patrick Swayze?

979

:

I was not expecting this in a family

drama, but now granted his clothes.

980

:

So he's like out on a lawn

chair, like an outside chair.

981

:

He's like sitting, not, not laying

on a lawn chair, sitting in like an

982

:

upright chair and his clothes are.

983

:

Like on the, the clothesline to dry.

984

:

So probably only has one outfit.

985

:

So he's washed it and he's

waiting for it to dry.

986

:

And he's getting a tan.

987

:

Cause he's, he's this free spirit guy.

988

:

Right?

989

:

Well, the neighbors of this like perfect,

tidy little, little development, they're

990

:

pretty uptight and they call him a

beat Nick and he's getting some sun.

991

:

And when he gets up to grab his pants to

put on, because he thinks he's alone and

992

:

then here, here, all these people come

in and We get a, we get a pretty sweet

993

:

peek at Swayze's ass in this, and one

of the neighbors at the site of this.

994

:

Literally falls over so

that was a great scene.

995

:

I really liked it.

996

:

Meanwhile, though in, in all seriousness,

he is filling this role for both Tom

997

:

and Jeannie, they have a lot of heart

to heart talks and they're giving

998

:

each other looks, you know, and they

really would make a fantastic couple.

999

:

They are both just incredibly beautiful.

:

00:59:03,205 --> 00:59:06,255

People both of them, I'm like, wow,

they would make a striking couple.

:

00:59:06,255 --> 00:59:08,165

I, I, I would like that to happen.

:

00:59:08,765 --> 00:59:13,415

But so he's mysterious and some of the

mystery comes into play in a few ways.

:

00:59:13,425 --> 00:59:17,165

So she sees him writing in a

journal in his room at night.

:

00:59:17,495 --> 00:59:22,085

And then when she snoops, there's

no words, it's blank pages.

:

00:59:22,085 --> 00:59:23,625

And then she.

:

00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,090

It falls out of her hand.

:

00:59:25,330 --> 00:59:30,310

She doesn't see, but we as the audience

see the writing come back and he

:

00:59:30,310 --> 00:59:35,530

also she sees when she's snooping

that he has a metal like a war metal.

:

00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,140

And it's I don't know much about

war metals, but it's star shaped.

:

00:59:39,610 --> 00:59:43,055

So, I think it's like, either

a bronze star, silver star.

:

00:59:44,225 --> 00:59:46,925

At any rate, I think it's supposed to

tell us that the time doesn't quite

:

00:59:46,925 --> 00:59:50,715

match up for when he would have received

this metal to the time that it is now.

:

00:59:51,355 --> 00:59:55,995

Given his age now him receiving that metal

would, would not be possible is sort of

:

00:59:55,995 --> 00:59:58,475

what I think we're cleaning from that.

:

00:59:59,075 --> 01:00:04,935

And So at first I thought, cause they have

a discussion about war and she gets mad

:

01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:07,905

at him cause he says something about war.

:

01:00:07,945 --> 01:00:08,375

I don't know.

:

01:00:09,105 --> 01:00:12,765

She, he didn't mean what she

thought he meant about war.

:

01:00:13,985 --> 01:00:15,785

Clearly he's been in a war before.

:

01:00:15,795 --> 01:00:20,775

And so at first we think, oh, well he

was also in Korea, but no, he wasn't.

:

01:00:21,185 --> 01:00:24,395

It was a different war that he was in

that we find out a little bit later.

:

01:00:24,735 --> 01:00:28,555

And then, so Gunny, the

little, the little brother.

:

01:00:28,860 --> 01:00:32,080

is actually very cute and when we

meet him he's scared of everything

:

01:00:32,090 --> 01:00:36,540

like he's a fraidy cat at first

he's afraid of this dog well then

:

01:00:36,750 --> 01:00:42,165

through a series of Encounters with

the dog, whose name is Betty Jane.

:

01:00:42,855 --> 01:00:45,355

He's like, there's

something more to this dog.

:

01:00:45,775 --> 01:00:51,165

And he has these magic 1 in particular,

but a couple of magical experiences

:

01:00:51,165 --> 01:00:53,555

with the dog becomes this weird.

:

01:00:54,105 --> 01:00:57,475

Being that Gunny is kind of afraid

of at first, but then he realizes

:

01:00:57,565 --> 01:01:00,715

it's like, turning into these stars

and it's actually like a nice being.

:

01:01:01,335 --> 01:01:05,535

And then it's, you know, Matt

through magic, it's stars and

:

01:01:05,535 --> 01:01:06,755

then it turns back into the dog.

:

01:01:06,755 --> 01:01:11,165

So he realizes that this dog is not a dog.

:

01:01:11,185 --> 01:01:12,745

There's something about this dog.

:

01:01:12,765 --> 01:01:15,225

And, but now he's no, he's

not scared of everything now.

:

01:01:15,485 --> 01:01:18,295

So the, the dog helps them

overcome a lot of his fears.

:

01:01:18,295 --> 01:01:23,085

Well, turns out we find out this

dog, Betty Jane is actually a genie.

:

01:01:24,995 --> 01:01:31,365

And we'll get back to the genie in a

bit, but there is this fishing trip.

:

01:01:31,425 --> 01:01:33,995

So it's very exciting.

:

01:01:34,225 --> 01:01:36,915

Jack doesn't want to go because the

guys are only interested in him going.

:

01:01:36,915 --> 01:01:41,065

Cause they think he is this famous

baseball player, but it's a father,

:

01:01:41,065 --> 01:01:44,845

son fishing, camping trip, and he goes.

:

01:01:45,255 --> 01:01:48,525

You know, he, he doesn't want

Tom to miss out on this trip.

:

01:01:48,985 --> 01:01:53,715

And one thing that I took note of is,

well, it's just, it's the 50s to the cars.

:

01:01:53,905 --> 01:01:59,225

It's just lots of fun things that

close all the things, but the cars are.

:

01:01:59,570 --> 01:02:03,560

Interesting, and it was just against the

fishing and capping camping backdrop.

:

01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:10,800

There's a pink car and these men are like,

you know, at the time really a certain

:

01:02:10,810 --> 01:02:12,850

type of man that has to be masculine.

:

01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:16,520

I don't know if pink cars were a

really popular thing back in the day.

:

01:02:16,550 --> 01:02:23,880

But anyway, an interesting juxtaposition

to say the least now, Leland's dad.

:

01:02:26,170 --> 01:02:27,540

Okay, so they're beautiful.

:

01:02:27,550 --> 01:02:30,330

They're camping and they

see this, like the group.

:

01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:37,260

See this beautiful scene with a deer

and everyone else is like, you know,

:

01:02:37,540 --> 01:02:38,970

they're like, Oh, wow, look at that.

:

01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:48,000

Well, Leland's dad who gives off major

like shitty aggro male energy, he sees

:

01:02:48,250 --> 01:02:52,810

this deer and all he can think is how fun

it's going to be to kill it in November.

:

01:02:53,705 --> 01:02:58,225

And he's saying this to Jack as if that's

like a regular thing dudes should say to

:

01:02:58,225 --> 01:03:00,585

each other to prove how manly they are.

:

01:03:01,055 --> 01:03:06,225

And I just love Jack because he

is clearly not into what this

:

01:03:06,225 --> 01:03:07,415

person has just said to him.

:

01:03:07,425 --> 01:03:11,055

Like, he's probably thinking no, I'm a

real man and I don't have to kill innocent

:

01:03:11,055 --> 01:03:12,765

creatures for fun to prove that I'm a man.

:

01:03:13,145 --> 01:03:16,505

He's trying to not make a big deal of

it because that's not why he's there.

:

01:03:16,505 --> 01:03:18,555

He's there for Tom, but.

:

01:03:18,795 --> 01:03:24,175

You can tell that he is less

than impressed with that comment.

:

01:03:24,215 --> 01:03:25,735

And so for that, I love him.

:

01:03:26,465 --> 01:03:29,355

And then that same dude, same aggro dude.

:

01:03:31,605 --> 01:03:34,225

Asks Jack, you know, they're all

sitting around the campfire and

:

01:03:34,225 --> 01:03:35,155

the kids are off doing something.

:

01:03:35,155 --> 01:03:36,085

So now it's just the guys.

:

01:03:36,615 --> 01:03:41,505

And he asks Jack about his time on

the road playing baseball about, you

:

01:03:41,505 --> 01:03:43,205

know, all the money and the women.

:

01:03:43,205 --> 01:03:45,175

And again, just like

your typical aggro dude.

:

01:03:45,655 --> 01:03:48,245

And again, Jack is like,

it's not about that.

:

01:03:48,245 --> 01:03:49,245

That's not what it was about.

:

01:03:49,275 --> 01:03:52,445

So it's very clear to us who

we're supposed to like and who

:

01:03:52,445 --> 01:03:53,335

we're not supposed to like.

:

01:03:53,345 --> 01:03:54,945

And so now we're back at home.

:

01:03:54,995 --> 01:03:56,035

Camping trip over.

:

01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,270

Back at home.

:

01:03:57,990 --> 01:04:02,750

Meanwhile, there's this Phil dude who

has been trying to cozy up to Jeannie.

:

01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,210

He's been taking her out on dates while

Jack babysits the kids and Jeannie

:

01:04:08,210 --> 01:04:12,840

has been kind of confiding in Jack

through their series of, of talks

:

01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,345

about how she feels like she's trying

to, you know, Start a business, but

:

01:04:17,345 --> 01:04:20,654

you know, it is the fifties and she

feels like it would be more secure.

:

01:04:20,654 --> 01:04:23,125

She feels like she should just get

remarried because that would maybe

:

01:04:23,125 --> 01:04:25,975

be a more secure life for the kids.

:

01:04:26,545 --> 01:04:28,115

But we see her gain confidence.

:

01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,440

In herself just as having Jack

there as a friend and confidant.

:

01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:37,700

So Phil proposes to her

and she turns him down.

:

01:04:37,820 --> 01:04:39,050

She's like, I don't need you.

:

01:04:39,970 --> 01:04:40,470

I love it.

:

01:04:40,510 --> 01:04:44,140

I it's like, again, this movie in

the fifties, I'm, I'm all for it.

:

01:04:45,090 --> 01:04:47,010

Well, she doesn't have to remarry.

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She can do this on her own.

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Well, then her and Jack have a

very passionate night together.

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I kind of wanted him to stay

too, and if I were her, I

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definitely would want him to stay.

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But what's quite nice is she knows,

you know, that's not who he is, that's

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not what is meant to happen here.

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He has made an impact in their lives, but

he's healed now, and he's gonna leave.

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But Now we're getting back to the genie.

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They have a conversation

about why he's here, right?

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So it turns out that yes, the

dog is a genie that grants wishes

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to families that do good deeds.

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And one of you cannot

wish for him to stay.

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01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,540

That can't be one of your wishes.

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01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:41,995

So genie knows that he needs to

But Tom is This is like the second

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01:05:42,005 --> 01:05:44,825

father he's losing and he runs off.

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01:05:44,895 --> 01:05:47,035

Tom and Jack ended up

having a conversation.

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01:05:47,495 --> 01:05:53,085

And he tells him how he ended up

here is that he was once in war and

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01:05:53,085 --> 01:05:55,795

came across Betty Jane, the genie

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01:05:56,404 --> 01:05:58,935

if you don't make your own wish,

the genie makes a wish for you.

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01:05:59,075 --> 01:06:00,415

Apparently that's, that's the deal.

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01:06:00,425 --> 01:06:03,775

Cause Tom was like, well, I don't want to

wish then if I can't wish for you to stay.

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And so Jack's like, well, if that's

the case, I will make a wish for you.

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I have to.

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So that's how Jack got here is

that the genie wanted somebody

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to travel around with her.

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01:06:16,450 --> 01:06:18,090

So she wouldn't be lonely.

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01:06:19,770 --> 01:06:20,220

Yeah.

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01:06:20,279 --> 01:06:23,260

And she thought he still

had some things to learn.

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01:06:23,410 --> 01:06:25,570

So he, he wasn't done

with his journey, Jack.

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01:06:25,590 --> 01:06:29,730

So that's, he is there as a

companion for the genie, the dog.

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01:06:29,779 --> 01:06:30,130

Right?

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01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:30,730

Okay.

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01:06:30,970 --> 01:06:36,000

So also we have learned that Gunny,

the little brother has cancer.

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,630

So obviously that's the wish that genie

has is that Gunny is going to be okay.

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01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:41,150

Right?

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01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,110

Gunny's wish is silly,

but it's, I don't know.

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01:06:44,110 --> 01:06:47,075

He's maybe like, Five.

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01:06:47,195 --> 01:06:47,665

I don't know.

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01:06:47,725 --> 01:06:51,975

I'm not sure how old he is, but his wish

is that so it's the summertime, right?

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01:06:51,975 --> 01:06:53,565

So we're leading up to the 4th of July.

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01:06:54,455 --> 01:07:01,935

He wishes to fly Into and with the

fireworks at the 4th of July celebration.

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01:07:02,654 --> 01:07:03,235

Isn't that cute?

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01:07:03,255 --> 01:07:04,175

He's like really?

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01:07:04,225 --> 01:07:05,355

That's that's what you want eh?

:

01:07:05,375 --> 01:07:10,730

Okay, and So Jack has to make a

wish for Tom because Tom's so Can't

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01:07:10,730 --> 01:07:13,320

have his wish of Jack staying right?

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01:07:15,620 --> 01:07:16,650

We'll get to what it is.

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01:07:16,779 --> 01:07:17,060

Right?

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01:07:17,060 --> 01:07:21,550

So now we are at the 4th of July

celebration and Gunny gets his wish.

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01:07:21,779 --> 01:07:23,340

He isn't scared again.

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01:07:23,350 --> 01:07:25,529

So this has been a good.

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,510

Experience this time that Jack has been

living with the family has been good.

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01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:30,810

It's taught them all some things.

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,560

And 1 of the things that it's taught gunny

through the dog is to not be fearful.

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So he climbs up this tower so that he

can take off and fly and get his wish.

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01:07:40,220 --> 01:07:41,220

And he does again.

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01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:42,070

It's a fantasy movie.

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01:07:42,070 --> 01:07:45,800

So there's some fantasy elements

of him being up in the stars

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01:07:45,820 --> 01:07:47,029

and amongst the fireworks.

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01:07:47,470 --> 01:07:48,350

It's pretty cool.

:

01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:48,970

Yeah.

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01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:54,029

And then at this celebration,

the dad comes back.

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01:07:54,330 --> 01:07:55,390

He's not dead.

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01:07:55,940 --> 01:07:59,440

He was missing in action and

they say there's kind of a,

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01:07:59,450 --> 01:08:01,090

like a newscaster voiceover.

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01:08:01,090 --> 01:08:06,529

It's like on this day in:

POWs were released by the people's

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01:08:06,529 --> 01:08:08,060

Republic of China, blah, blah, blah.

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01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,080

So that's what we are.

:

01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:11,220

We think, oh.

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01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:12,600

That's awesome.

:

01:08:12,610 --> 01:08:15,279

That must have been Jack's

wish for Tom, right?

:

01:08:15,660 --> 01:08:15,970

It's not.

:

01:08:18,340 --> 01:08:18,560

All right.

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:19,100

But that's awesome.

:

01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:20,510

So they, now they're a family again.

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01:08:20,529 --> 01:08:22,149

Gunny's going to live present day.

:

01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:22,880

Gunny lives.

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01:08:22,899 --> 01:08:23,569

He's fine.

:

01:08:24,410 --> 01:08:28,890

He's still alive and well, but we're in

present day now, again, back with adult

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01:08:28,899 --> 01:08:31,800

Tom and he's being annoyed by his kids.

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01:08:31,810 --> 01:08:32,330

They're driving.

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01:08:32,330 --> 01:08:37,660

He almost hits this guy with his

dog and he gets out of the car to

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01:08:37,660 --> 01:08:43,399

go follow him into the cemetery

and he's hit softly, but hit by a.

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01:08:43,825 --> 01:08:46,765

Baseball and then oh, there's Betty Jane.

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01:08:46,765 --> 01:08:47,555

There's the dog.

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01:08:47,604 --> 01:08:54,005

And then also Jack appears too and

briefly clarifies that his wish for

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01:08:54,005 --> 01:08:56,475

Tom was not to have his father back.

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01:08:56,875 --> 01:09:04,545

His wish for Tom was actually that Tom

would find happiness in whatever he has.

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01:09:05,675 --> 01:09:10,015

So that's why he came back because

Tom isn't quite getting it.

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01:09:10,385 --> 01:09:13,274

So he, he's back to remind Tom of that.

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01:09:13,645 --> 01:09:15,484

And then he disappears,

then Jack disappears.

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01:09:16,265 --> 01:09:20,545

So, of course, now Tom does realize how

lucky he is, despite the troubles that

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01:09:20,545 --> 01:09:23,505

he's having, you know, his family's all

alive and healthy and he's doing well.

:

01:09:23,715 --> 01:09:24,434

Happy to have them.

:

01:09:24,434 --> 01:09:25,845

So he holds his family tight.

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01:09:26,484 --> 01:09:32,125

And then the movie closes on

a shot of a tombstone that

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01:09:32,125 --> 01:09:39,165

reads JW McLeod,:

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01:09:39,785 --> 01:09:41,434

So the war he was in.

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01:09:41,815 --> 01:09:43,234

Was World War II.

:

01:09:43,305 --> 01:09:44,854

He died, in:

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01:09:45,385 --> 01:09:51,665

So he's been traveling then as

like the sidekick of the genie for

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01:09:51,684 --> 01:09:59,850

11 years now and Yeah, that's the

end of the movie I, I don't know.

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01:09:59,850 --> 01:10:00,890

I'm like all smiles.

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,190

I, I know it kind of sounds

like, oh, yeah, it sounds like

:

01:10:05,190 --> 01:10:06,470

your typical family movie.

:

01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:07,950

But it's really good.

:

01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,510

And it's a shame that no 1 knows about it.

:

01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:12,470

I will say it's, it's far

better than I was not expecting

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01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:13,830

to think much of anything.

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01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:22,150

Of this movie, it keeps you on your toes

and the actors are great and, especially

:

01:10:22,230 --> 01:10:28,710

the two leads, Patrick and Mary Elizabeth

Mastrantonio, it's kind of a mouthful.

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01:10:29,070 --> 01:10:33,020

They're, they have extremely

impactful, dramatic, and

:

01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:35,030

emotional moments in the movie.

:

01:10:35,340 --> 01:10:38,710

And that kind of makes it a

little more than your surface

:

01:10:38,710 --> 01:10:40,510

level, like family fantasy movie.

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01:10:40,530 --> 01:10:43,750

So that is Three Wishes, you guys.

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01:10:44,570 --> 01:10:45,460

Have you seen it?

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01:10:46,660 --> 01:10:49,110

If you have, you must

tell me what you think.

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01:10:49,130 --> 01:10:51,370

And if you haven't, or even if

you have, give it a rewatch.

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01:10:51,410 --> 01:10:53,120

Let me know what you think.

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01:10:53,670 --> 01:10:58,700

You guys, I totally loved seeing all the

mid century modern awesomeness, homes,

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,210

cars, fashion, et cetera, in this movie.

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01:11:02,370 --> 01:11:08,550

And we get some Swayze ass, but it is now

time to return to the present day reality.

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01:11:08,620 --> 01:11:12,600

Until next time, be kind, rewind.

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Your pop culture rewind
Welcome to the Retromade Podcast, where we take a nostalgic trip down memory lane and explore the best of the 80s and 90s pop culture.

Join us as we dive into the iconic movies, TV shows, music, fashion, cartoons, toys, and other cultural trends that defined these two decades. From the classic coming-of-age films of John Hughes to the unforgettable TV shows like The Cosby Show, Cheers, The Golden Girls, Friends, and Seinfeld; we’ll explore the moments that shaped our childhoods and continue to resonate with us today.

Get ready to reminisce about the music that dominated the charts, from the hair metal of Guns N’ Roses to the pop hits of Madonna and Michael Jackson. We’ll also take a look at the fads and trends that defined the era, from the neon colors of fashion to the boombox on every street corner.

But it’s not just about the big names and big moments. We’ll also dive deep into the lesser-known corners of 80s and 90s culture, from cult classic movies like The Breakfast Club and Big Trouble in Little China to underground bands that never quite made it big. And of course, we can’t forget the deliciously retro snacks & cereals that were a staple of our childhoods.

Join us as we explore the pop culture of the past, and discover how it still shapes our lives today. Whether you’re a child of the 80s, 90s, or just a fan of retro culture, this podcast is for you. So grab a slice of pizza, put on your favorite band t-shirt, and tune in to the Retromade Podcast.
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