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Episode 8

Point Break | S1E8

We continue our Ultimate Everymen coverage with one of Patrick Swayze’s most memorable roles! Today, we travel back to July 1991 to discuss the action crime thriller, Point Break.

I'm joined by Dominick Tartamella, the host of Movie Thoughts Podcast.

Dom is a film lover who loves talking movies, writing and creating comedy videos. Movie Thoughts Podcast is available on itunes, Spotify, etc. The Instagram, TikTok & twitter name is @Domsoloreels

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

Katie:

Hello, I'm Katie and welcome to Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

Katie:

Let's take another trip down memory lane.

Katie:

We continue our ultimate everyman coverage with one of Patrick

Katie:

Swayze's most memorable roles.

Katie:

Today we travel back to July, 1991 to discuss the action crime

Katie:

thriller point break, and all the other goings on of the time.

Katie:

I'm excited to have Dominic Tarella joining me today.

Katie:

Dom is a fellow last of the Action Heroes podcast network host, where he joins

Katie:

Ryan on it's a long road, a Rambo series podcast, as well as his own show called

Katie:

Movie Thoughts that I find hilarious.

Katie:

Dom, first of all, you have a great name.

Dominick Tartamella:

thank you

Katie:

Secondly,

Dominick Tartamella:

pronounced everything right too.

Dominick Tartamella:

You actually

Katie:

did I?

Katie:

Oh, good.

Katie:

Good, good, good.

Katie:

Secondly, thank you so much for joining me.

Katie:

yeah, tell us more about your shows.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, so yeah, I do, uh, the show with Ryan where we

Dominick Tartamella:

were going through the Rambo movies.

Dominick Tartamella:

It's a long road, having a good time with that.

Dominick Tartamella:

And then I do my own podcast movie Thoughts where I cover new movies,

Dominick Tartamella:

old movies, and I just, like the title says, I just give my thoughts

Dominick Tartamella:

and opinions on all that fun stuff.

Katie:

It is great.

Katie:

I really, I think you all, if you like retro made listeners, I think

Katie:

you'll like movie thoughts as well,

Dominick Tartamella:

you.

Dominick Tartamella:

I

Katie:

so yeah, check it out.

Katie:

It's funny.

Katie:

Okay, so let's first get into the retro state of mind by opening

Katie:

the time capsule from July, 1991.

Katie:

I know you're, quite a bit younger than I am.

Katie:

So you might have caught some of these in syndication dom, but , according to the

Katie:

Nielsen ratings from the 90 to 91 season,

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

the popular primetime shows were Cheers.

Katie:

Roseanne a Different World,

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

Cosby Show,

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Katie:

Brown, the Golden Girls

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

Women Murder She Wrote and Empty Nest.

Katie:

Do you recall watching any of those?

Dominick Tartamella:

Ro Roseanne.

Dominick Tartamella:

And, uh, cheers.

Dominick Tartamella:

Were always on in my household growing up, you know?

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, just remember John Goodman being on the TV a lot.

Katie:

I still watch that.

Katie:

Like the reruns still.

Katie:

I love it.

Dominick Tartamella:

I with like the reboot.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh,

Dominick Tartamella:

that other stuff happened with her, but is what it is.

Dominick Tartamella:

It was good.

Dominick Tartamella:

It was good while it lasted.

Katie:

I think it's still pretty good.

Katie:

And I do John Goodman's great.

Katie:

Cheers.

Katie:

Who doesn't love?

Katie:

Cheers.

Katie:

, so we kind of covered a little bit of 91, so I didn't wanna

Katie:

rehash a lot of the same cartoons.

Katie:

So I thought I would just ask you, what cartoons you watched when you were a kid,

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean, uh, in the nineties I watched, what didn't I watch?

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean, I watched like the classics, like Scooby Doo and

Dominick Tartamella:

stuff like that, reruns, I love it.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I always liked staying up late and just watching all that old,

Dominick Tartamella:

like those sixties cartoons.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, and then I watched, you know, Wing, dark Batman, the

Dominick Tartamella:

series, all that fun stuff.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, throughout like all the, There was like a lot of Marvel superhero.

Dominick Tartamella:

I remember Spider-Man cartoon and stuff like that.

Dominick Tartamella:

I watched all that stuff.

Katie:

That makes sense.

Katie:

Were you a cereal kid?

Katie:

Did you eat a lot of cereal?

Katie:

Like.

Dominick Tartamella:

I still, he loves still a serial kid.

Katie:

I do too.

Katie:

I do too.

Katie:

I feel.

Katie:

Okay.

Katie:

Good.

Katie:

I have, I feel like I'm like the only adult that still eats cereal.

Dominick Tartamella:

I still like staring at the back of the box eating It

Katie:

There's no prizes inside anymore

Dominick Tartamella:

is

Katie:

and yeah, it's not,

Dominick Tartamella:

I was talking about that with somebody recently.

Dominick Tartamella:

Like they used to be so substantial.

Dominick Tartamella:

Like you used to get like a whole toy in there.

Dominick Tartamella:

Now it's either you gotta collect UPCs or

Katie:

oh, oh, who's gonna bother with that?

Dominick Tartamella:

who's kid's

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

No, I'm an adult and I wouldn't do that.

Katie:

Like, yeah, that's too much.

Katie:

What cereal did you

Katie:

enjoy or still enjoy?

Dominick Tartamella:

uh.

Dominick Tartamella:

Fruit Loops.

Dominick Tartamella:

Lucky Fruity Pebbles.

Katie:

Oh yeah.

Katie:

Fruity Pebbles.

Dominick Tartamella:

Basically

Katie:

Sugar.

Katie:

Bring it on.

Katie:

Golden Crisp or Sugar Smacks.

Dominick Tartamella:

Sugar

Dominick Tartamella:

pops.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Katie:

yeah.

Katie:

Corn Pops.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think they might've stopped making pops.

Katie:

Yeah, they probably don't make a lot of those anymore, cereal

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: the Halloween cereals.

Katie:

Uh, BooBerry

Katie:

Choa or BooBerry,

Dominick Tartamella:

that stuff.

Dominick Tartamella:

Frankenberry.

Dominick Tartamella:

. I still get that every year when it comes out.

Katie:

Oh, cereal.

Katie:

I love it.

Katie:

It's a, it's a good quick meal.

Katie:

I like cereal.

Dominick Tartamella:

eat for dinner, breakfast, lunch, doesn't matter.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

bowl and

Katie:

well, in a serving size is like three fourths of a cup of

Katie:

cereal, which is like two bites.

Katie:

So I'm

Dominick Tartamella:

actually look at the serving size, it everything up.

Dominick Tartamella:

That's like Oreos too.

Dominick Tartamella:

Look at the serving It's like a half a Oreo.

Dominick Tartamella:

And then I

Katie:

Or ice cream?

Katie:

Yeah, ice cream.

Dominick Tartamella:

Deadly.

Katie:

It's kind of depressing.

Katie:

So we'll move on

Dominick Tartamella:

serving size.

Katie:

Yeah, let's not do that.

Katie:

Now I'm making a guess, but tell me if I'm wrong.

Katie:

Did you watch wrestling?

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, of Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

a little bit with that.

Dominick Tartamella:

Ryan.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, yeah,

Katie:

Oh, okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

my brother were big, big wrestling fans.

Dominick Tartamella:

I still like, I'll my nephew, I'll still like check out some of the newer stuff,

Dominick Tartamella:

but I just love all the classic nineties and early two thousands stuff, especially.

Katie:

Well, this might be a little before your time,

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

Well actually, is there such a thing as a Pro Wrestling Illustrated,

Katie:

uh,

Dominick Tartamella:

Um,

Katie:

Does that exist still?

Dominick Tartamella:

I, I remember, I, I, I had like the w w F ones, like,

Dominick Tartamella:

I remember there was like attitude.

Dominick Tartamella:

I remember having those

Katie:

Okay,

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't remember the, that was one you're talking about.

Dominick Tartamella:

That was a, a real

Katie:

well, I just, so they put out a list.

Katie:

It's p w i, I don't know if it still exists, but it did in 91.

Katie:

Pro Wrestling Illustrated, they ranked, they like, uh, tag Team of

Katie:

the Year and Wrestler of the Year.

Katie:

So they like, I.

Katie:

Put out a list every year.

Katie:

And so I wasn't sure if that magazine still existed or not.

Katie:

But in 91, the wrestler of the year was, take a wild guess.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, in, in 91.

Katie:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, was it, was it Hogan or No?

Katie:

it was, yeah.

Katie:

Was he ever not,

Katie:

I mean,

Dominick Tartamella:

that's the thing I was trying to see.

Dominick Tartamella:

'cause I know he started, uh, you know, waning in popularity

Dominick Tartamella:

probably around the mid nineties.

Dominick Tartamella:

And then he went

Dominick Tartamella:

W C W and then all that stuff happened.

Dominick Tartamella:

He kind of got popular again, but that's why I was trying to think for a minute.

Dominick Tartamella:

If it was a younger Yeah, I could see that though.

Dominick Tartamella:

Hulk Hogan.

Dominick Tartamella:

Hulk Hogan.

Katie:

Hulk Hogan

Dominick Tartamella:

It's great.

Dominick Tartamella:

. Hogan.

Katie:

I mean, he's Thunder Lips to me,

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: lips in the flesh, baby.

Katie:

baby.

Katie:

Oh, Rocky two.

Katie:

Rocky three.

Katie:

Rocky three.

Katie:

God.

Katie:

Um.

Katie:

So then I, I was unfamiliar with the enforcers, but they apparently

Katie:

were the tag team of the year in 91.

Katie:

Arn

Katie:

Anderson, Anderson, and Larry Zako.

Katie:

I'm probably pronouncing

Dominick Tartamella:

I, yeah, I know the names.

Dominick Tartamella:

I know the names.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I didn't realize they were a tag team, though.

Dominick Tartamella:

I must've missed that.

Katie:

Yeah, I remember like, um, the Bush Whackers

Dominick Tartamella:

the Bush whackers, right?

Katie:

a thing and Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

the Legion of Doom.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Dominick Tartamella:

Those guys, they were, I think they were the guys that wear the masks

Dominick Tartamella:

and the shoulder pads and all that.

Katie:

Oh yeah,

Katie:

yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

match of the year for 91 was the Steiner Brothers who I'm unfamiliar with

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, you, oh, you

Dominick Tartamella:

brothers.

Katie:

no, I don't know.

Katie:

I don't Versus Sting.

Katie:

Oh, okay.

Katie:

Well, Rick and Scott Steiner.

Katie:

Okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

yeah, they got more popular I think in W C W later

Katie:

So I watched it earlier,

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh,

Katie:

probably like, so, and I'm older than you, but.

Katie:

So this was like super Brawl one.

Katie:

They, the Steiner Brothers versus Sting and Lex Luger, that was considered

Katie:

the match of the year from 1991.

Dominick Tartamella:

Gotta

Katie:

And then, oh God, um, few to the year, which I thought this was,

Katie:

this probably would've been good.

Katie:

The Ultimate Warrior versus the undertaker

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, okay.

Katie:

Was the undertaker around when you were

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I didn't even realize they had a, a feud though at one point.

Dominick Tartamella:

I must have missed that or forgotten about it.

Dominick Tartamella:

Know probably about a year before this, it was probably the

Dominick Tartamella:

Hogan ultimate Warrior thing.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think they did

Katie:

Okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

a around this time.

Dominick Tartamella:

They did a big feud with that.

Dominick Tartamella:

but I didn't re realize he did one with the undertaker.

Dominick Tartamella:

I gotta look into that.

Katie:

You know, this is according to my internet research and then most hated,

Katie:

I hadn't heard of this one either.

Katie:

Sergeant Slaughter.

Dominick Tartamella:

Sergeant Slaughter.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes.

Dominick Tartamella:

. He, he actually wrestles, I think it's probably about 91.

Dominick Tartamella:

He wrestled Hulk Hogan at like a main event of a WrestleMania.

Dominick Tartamella:

So it's probably WrestleMania seven.

Dominick Tartamella:

Maybe if I'm I'm

Katie:

God, I don't even, yeah,

Dominick Tartamella:

to my brain, uh, , my old, my old wrestling brain

Katie:

what?

Katie:

What were the other wrestlers that you were into that maybe weren't listed here?

Dominick Tartamella:

I definitely, I mean, I definitely liked the ultimate

Dominick Tartamella:

Warrior, Hulk Hogan, uh, macho man.

Katie:

Oh yeah, macho man, Randy Savage.

Dominick Tartamella:

Sean

Katie:

Okay,

Dominick Tartamella:

uh, I'm a big fan of them.

Dominick Tartamella:

Stone Cold obviously came in later and, but yeah, those are,

Dominick Tartamella:

those are probably my top five, six, whichever ones I just named.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

awesome.

Katie:

Well, I liked like Jake the snake,

Katie:

the bush whackers and the iron chic like a little bit earlier, like in the eighties,

Katie:

probably, like I watched with my grandpa,

Katie:

um, and I remember when Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage were kind of teamed up

Dominick Tartamella:

the

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

They called

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

I, I don't know.

Katie:

And then there was this storyline where they got mad at one another somehow.

Katie:

I don't know.

Katie:

Uh, I, yeah.

Katie:

let's see.

Katie:

There was probably, who else?

Katie:

There's some I'm missing, but those are probably the big ones that I remember.

Katie:

Oh, and then Junkyard Dog too.

Dominick Tartamella:

Junky dog.

Dominick Tartamella:

Well, me and my brother, like we watched a lot of that older stuff too.

Dominick Tartamella:

Like we went back when we got, became big wrestling fans and we

Dominick Tartamella:

all that, from the early eighties and stuff, so.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

like Andre, the giant

Katie:

stuff.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

. all that

Katie:

Cool.

Katie:

So this time in 91, you were probably pretty little, but like,

Katie:

you know, in the early ni Yeah.

Katie:

in the early nineties there, there were some big toys and gadgets

Katie:

that I found kind of hilarious.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uhhuh

Katie:

Um, were you into the teenage Mutt Ninja Turtles at all?

Dominick Tartamella:

yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I was . I still am

Katie:

are really,

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah,

Katie:

do you have any of the swags?

Katie:

So apparently the Ninja Turtles and Bart Simpson was big at this

Katie:

time, so like just stuff, anything, just swag with those names on it.

Dominick Tartamella:

I had definitely a lot of Simpsons, Bart Simpson

Dominick Tartamella:

shirts, eat my shorts and all that

Katie:

Oh yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

and I remember you'd get in trouble

Dominick Tartamella:

in school too at that point.

Dominick Tartamella:

Like I remember wearing stuff to school in certain shirts

Dominick Tartamella:

you would get in trouble for.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um,

Katie:

Oh

Dominick Tartamella:

yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Just because I guess that was, you know, provocative at that time.

Dominick Tartamella:

uh, now you could get away with anything Um, and then I definitely had a lot

Dominick Tartamella:

Nja turtles, like I probably still have them in like my mother's attic.

Dominick Tartamella:

Just a ton of Ninja Turtles.

Dominick Tartamella:

They're a lot of that stuff now.

Dominick Tartamella:

Like the vintage,

Katie:

Oh, of course they are.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: nineties, same packaging.

Katie:

It's crazy.

Katie:

Oh,

Dominick Tartamella:

brings me back,

Katie:

They, because they know that all of us will just buy the

Katie:

stuff again, for nostalgic reasons.

Dominick Tartamella:

exactly.

Katie:

Also the, so speaking of, uh, wrestling, there were these

Katie:

apparently called W W F wrestling buddies, like a pillow person

Katie:

almost, but it was like a wrestler.

Katie:

Did you have one?

Dominick Tartamella:

had, I had, I, I think I had two.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah, I had, um, I had big boss man.

Dominick Tartamella:

Do you remember that guy?

Dominick Tartamella:

He like dressed up like the cop.

Dominick Tartamella:

You vaguely

Katie:

vaguely.

Katie:

Vaguely.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

and then my brother, I think had macho man.

Dominick Tartamella:

We had those are a hot commodity still.

Dominick Tartamella:

I have like a collects all that stuff and they, they go for like big money.

Dominick Tartamella:

Those

Katie:

Oh,

Dominick Tartamella:

especially

Katie:

nice.

Katie:

Well, I hope you still have yours.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Somewhere, I'm sure

Katie:

Your mom's, yeah.

Katie:

At your mom's house.

Dominick Tartamella:

my

Dominick Tartamella:

house.

Katie:

Were you a Nintendo kid?

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes,

Katie:

So the Nintendo n e s game card, like the games were big

Katie:

and then apparently the Super Nintendo must have come out in 92.

Katie:

those were really big this year.

Katie:

Or 91.

Katie:

I'm sorry.

Katie:

Did I say 92?

Katie:

91.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

And then for girls, the Crimp and Curl Cabbage Patch Kids, which I

Katie:

think I remember, which was just dumb.

Katie:

Their hair was just like weird.

Katie:

And it came with a crimper crimped hair.

Katie:

Remember that

Dominick Tartamella:

Uhhuh,

Katie:

No, you probably don't.

Dominick Tartamella:

I've, I've heard the stories about the,

Dominick Tartamella:

like, the stories of how hard the Cabbage Patch dolls were to get

Katie:

Yeah,

Dominick Tartamella:

day.

Dominick Tartamella:

Like my sister, when my mother would go crazy trying to get those

Dominick Tartamella:

for my sister and stuff like that.

Katie:

you couldn't just order them

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

from Amazon.

Katie:

You had to go to a store.

Dominick Tartamella:

that nowadays.

Dominick Tartamella:

You had to pick a pre-order and stuff like that.

Dominick Tartamella:

You had to know, I've heard stories about people going outside and

Dominick Tartamella:

meeting the, the truck drivers for toys us and paying them off and

Katie:

Oh my God.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Katie:

hardcore Christmas in the eighties though, man.

Katie:

Or early nineties.

Katie:

Yeah,

Dominick Tartamella:

the good old days.

Katie:

we didn't ever have one of these, but in 91, the dual deck V C R came out.

Dominick Tartamella:

was

Katie:

Like there were two slots.

Katie:

Like, so apparently you could like, I don't know what the use would be, record,

Dominick Tartamella:

record

Katie:

rent a movie and then record it to your own tape?

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Dominick Tartamella:

That was thing.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Katie:

That and then there was the, uh, it was called a rap man, like

Katie:

it wasn't a Walkman, it was like a keyboard, but it was made just for

Katie:

the purpose of like making rap songs

Dominick Tartamella:

oh,

Katie:

and it was called the Rap Man.

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, Okay.

Katie:

And then, From a Walkman perspective, Sony

Katie:

came out with a video Walkman,

Katie:

and it used like the tiny cassettes, like not the regular sized,

Katie:

I don't know, it was $1,400

Dominick Tartamella:

wow.

Katie:

in 91 for this like tiny little video walkman.

Katie:

I don't know what the use for that would be.

Katie:

So I think that probably came and went pretty quickly.

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't, I, I don't even remember that, honestly.

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't know how popular they were.

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean, for that

Katie:

I don't recall it at all.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Katie:

But then, uh, camcorders

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

and portable CD players were really big in, in the early

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

. I

Katie:

from a gadget perspective.

Dominick Tartamella:

Definitely had one

Katie:

And then,

Dominick Tartamella:

CDs.

Katie:

do you remember swatch like the, or do you recall like the, the big like

Katie:

watch clocks that people had on there

Dominick Tartamella:

I

Katie:

or swatch watches?

Dominick Tartamella:

Swatch.

Dominick Tartamella:

I just can't picture what they, what they made.

Katie:

Swatch watches is kind of what they're known for.

Katie:

But they came out with a phone and they called it a twin phone,

Katie:

where both the res, like both ends.

Katie:

You could talk and hear out of it.

Dominick Tartamella:

really?

Katie:

it, that seemed kind of dumb too.

Katie:

But that came out.

Katie:

The Swatch twin phone.

Katie:

Does anybody recall that?

Katie:

Moon Shoes.

Katie:

I'm sure you've heard of them.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes.

Katie:

Like these big boots.

Katie:

We, I didn't have them either, but apparently they were huge in 91.

Katie:

And let's see, vanilla Ice and New Kids on the Block.

Katie:

Stuff like those dolls.

Katie:

The sleeping baths bags, the bedding.

Katie:

Like my friend, I had a couple friends that had

Katie:

all of it.

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Dominick Tartamella:

One of my cousins had all that, the blankets and the toys.

Dominick Tartamella:

The new kids on the block stuff.

Dominick Tartamella:

I remember that.

Katie:

The early nineties.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: What a time to be alive.

Katie:

Indeed.

Katie:

Then music wise, I'll just do the top five, and then we'll get into

Katie:

some news before we hit the movie.

Katie:

But Paula Abdul's Rush Rush was the number one song this week.

Katie:

July 12th, 1991 is the release date of Point Break then

Dominick Tartamella:

Hmm.

Katie:

Unbelievable by E M F,

Dominick Tartamella:

Nice.

Katie:

which I thought that was later.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah,

Katie:

don't know why.

Dominick Tartamella:

later too.

Dominick Tartamella:

the one I'm thinking of y'all.

Dominick Tartamella:

Unbelievable.

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

I'm glad that you did that.

Katie:

'cause I was Nobody wants

Dominick Tartamella:

I'm gonna do it whether you like it or not do stuff.

Katie:

Thank you.

Katie:

'cause I was not about to, yes, that's the song.

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay?

Katie:

And then Jesus Jones right here, right now, I

Katie:

totally forgot of his existence.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes.

Dominick Tartamella:

I know that song,

Katie:

I wanna sex you up by color.

Katie:

Me bad.

Katie:

Ugh.

Katie:

I loved color Me bad.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: could forget that song?

Katie:

with a

Katie:

Oh my God, I loved it.

Katie:

And bad is spelled with two D color.

Katie:

Me bad.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

And then num, the number five song is Power of Love by Luther Vandross.

Dominick Tartamella:

okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

Cool.

Dominick Tartamella:

Good.

Dominick Tartamella:

Good music.

Katie:

Now, do you have any guesses for what, um, like some really

Katie:

big movie premieres were July 91.

Katie:

Can you think of anything

Dominick Tartamella:

91.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um

Katie:

one is probably like the most well-known action movie, probably.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, I would say terminated two comes

Dominick Tartamella:

out around this time, right?

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Yep.

Katie:

It, it premiered in July of 91.

Katie:

Same time as point break.

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

How, how, how far away from the release of Point Break was that?

Katie:

Um, I don't know what day it was, but it was in July.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: They're both in July, right?

Katie:

Oh,

Katie:

Both in July of Yeah.

Katie:

And then also Boys in the Hood premiered, which was also a huge movie

Katie:

time.

Katie:

That was, I loved that movie.

Katie:

And it, I think that made Morris's Chestnut's career.

Katie:

I, I need to have a whole conversation about him.

Katie:

He's, he's like my, I love him.

Katie:

Other news and events from July of 91, Boris Yeltsin is sworn in as the

Katie:

first elected president of Russia,

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

91.

Katie:

That seems kind of crazy.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

Jeffrey Dahmer confesses to killing

Katie:

17 men.

Dominick Tartamella:

wow.

Katie:

Did you watch that Netflix show?

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I barely, it was very hard to get through it, It was a

Dominick Tartamella:

watch.

Katie:

that guy did a good job.

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh

Katie:

I forget his name.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I forgot his name too.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

He did a great job.

Dominick Tartamella:

But that, that show was like very edge of the seat stuff.

Dominick Tartamella:

Like, to take breaks in between episodes

Dominick Tartamella:

just like, oh, this is get, this is getting too

Katie:

It's, it's heavy.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Especially since it's

Katie:

true.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Katie:

Uh, Paul Rubins, a k a Peewee Herman, this was his scandal.

Katie:

He's arrested in Florida

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes.

Katie:

for exposing himself in an adult movie theater.

Katie:

That in and of itself, I can't believe people went to a pub, like a

Katie:

public theater to watch adult movies.

Dominick Tartamella:

Crazy.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

It's, it's, it's not that he would even put himself in that situation,

Katie:

I remember that being a huge scandal, and it

Katie:

doesn't seem like it would be

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Katie:

I don't know.

Katie:

Maybe it would.

Dominick Tartamella:

Maybe it's, it's one of those things, I mean, not to,

Dominick Tartamella:

not to justify it or anything like that, but he a regular movie theater

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

That's,

Dominick Tartamella:

It

Dominick Tartamella:

you know, to see, uh, point break

Katie:

Pocahontas.

Katie:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Katie:

Also Russia and the US sign a long range nuclear weapons reduction pact.

Katie:

Apparently in July of 91, women just now are allowed to fly combat aircraft left.

Dominick Tartamella:

wow.

Katie:

Michael Landon died of pancreatic cancer and he was only 54.

Katie:

Michael Landon from like highway to heaven.

Katie:

Little house on the Prairie.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

I don't know if you ever watched those, that was way before your time.

Dominick Tartamella:

remember, uh, highway to Heaven.

Dominick Tartamella:

That one.

Katie:

And Kirk Cameron marries his growing pains.

Katie:

CoStar, Chelsea Noble.

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, okay.

Katie:

I sorta remember that she played the, um, nanny, I think

Katie:

her name was Kate in the show.

Katie:

And then just a touch later on August 6th, the first website was built

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, wow.

Katie:

and put online.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: I wonder how that ran.

Katie:

Yeah, I don't know,

Katie:

before we get into the movie, I have a couple questions for you.

Katie:

So today's movie point break features our Every man, Patrick Swayze.

Katie:

Do you have any thoughts or fandom or, or anything that you'd like to share?

Dominick Tartamella:

Swayze.

Dominick Tartamella:

I'm

Dominick Tartamella:

big fan of Patrick Swayze and Roadhouse, dirty Dancing Ghost,

Dominick Tartamella:

uh, . I just love, I just love the guy.

Dominick Tartamella:

I miss him dearly

Katie:

who doesn't?

Katie:

I do too.

Katie:

I mean, some people are like, oh, he's fine, but I've never

Katie:

met anyone that doesn't like him.

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Dominick Tartamella:

I, I think he's, yeah, like you said, he's one of those guys.

Dominick Tartamella:

You gotta at least like him.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, I just, I loved all the movies he was in and stuff like that.

Dominick Tartamella:

Point Break included great hair in this movie in . I'm of the, the locks he has.

Katie:

Oh, I actually, that's so funny that you say that.

Katie:

So, um, for listeners, Dom uh, is rocking a bald head,

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: I am rocking the ball.

Katie:

but, uh, Patrick Swayze's hair, I, I don't like it in point break.

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, you don't like it

Katie:

It's like the, it's like sun bleached 'cause it's not his regular

Katie:

like, dark hair that I do like.

Katie:

Yeah, it's all sun bleached and it's like a lion's mane I guess.

Dominick Tartamella:

full, I would take it

Katie:

Okay.

Katie:

All right, well you can have it.

Katie:

It's kind of a running joke now, my first season is both everyman Patrick s Swee

Katie:

and our other everyman, Kurt Russell.

Dominick Tartamella:

love him too.

Katie:

Do you think that they look alike at all?

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, I guess there's a resemblance.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, I, I don't think they, like, face wise, I don't think they look

Dominick Tartamella:

alike, but I guess with the same, you know, the brown hair, they

Dominick Tartamella:

both had long brown hair, a lot.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, same.

Dominick Tartamella:

I, I guess they're probably about the same size.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Dominick Tartamella:

Same kind of physique.

Dominick Tartamella:

could see them getting mistaken for one another, but I, I don't see

Dominick Tartamella:

a strong resemblance in the face.

Katie:

No.

Katie:

Okay.

Katie:

That's interesting.

Katie:

I ask most of my guests and the vast majority have been men

Katie:

don't quite see it, but women very much think they look alike.

Katie:

So there's something, yeah.

Katie:

I'm curious what your wife thinks.

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Dominick Tartamella:

ask her.

Katie:

Do you recall the first time you saw point break or do you

Katie:

have any specific memories of your first viewing or previous viewings?

Dominick Tartamella:

I remember, like, I remember seeing it on TV in

Dominick Tartamella:

nineties, probably bits and pieces.

Dominick Tartamella:

It wasn't until like years later that I think, like me and my brother, we were

Dominick Tartamella:

probably on a Patrick Swayze kick and we were just watching all his movies

Dominick Tartamella:

and we, we watched it in its entirety.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, I always liked it.

Dominick Tartamella:

I like it's a little over the top, you know.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, like Gary Busey, obviously.

Dominick Tartamella:

He's fun too.

Dominick Tartamella:

with his,

Katie:

is.

Katie:

He's pretty good.

Dominick Tartamella:

his giant Bugs Bunny teeth,

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Oh, Gary Busey.

Katie:

I mean, I think he's actually pretty good in this movie though.

Dominick Tartamella:

yeah, he's great.

Dominick Tartamella:

He's a great actor.

Dominick Tartamella:

I like actually, this is more like a subdue role for him.

Dominick Tartamella:

'cause I feel like sometimes he's really like over the top.

Dominick Tartamella:

but he's good in it.

Dominick Tartamella:

Keanu another guy I love.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, well, whether it's speed or the Matrix movies, I just, it's like the,

Dominick Tartamella:

the perfect pairing of Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves being in a film together.

Katie:

Did you see on that point, have you ever seen, uh, Youngblood with Patrick

Dominick Tartamella:

the

Katie:

Swayze and Rob Lowe?

Dominick Tartamella:

one, right?

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

watched it years ago.

Dominick Tartamella:

rewatch it again.

Dominick Tartamella:

Rob

Katie:

I haven't seen it in a very long time, but I remember loving it.

Katie:

And it will be covered on this season of Retro Made, but Keanu Reeves is

Katie:

in that also, so it's the second.

Katie:

So point break is the second time they've been in a movie together.

Dominick Tartamella:

wow.

Dominick Tartamella:

I'm guessing Keanu was in a smaller role in that,

Katie:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Dominick Tartamella:

And that was, that was probably post outsiders, right?

Dominick Tartamella:

I'm thinking, uh,

Katie:

Yes.

Katie:

It was, I wanna say 86

Katie:

ish, maybe.

Dominick Tartamella:

makes sense.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

. , revisit that one.

Dominick Tartamella:

I know I watched it at some point.

Dominick Tartamella:

I remember watching it.

Dominick Tartamella:

just can't remember much about it.

Katie:

Yeah, it's good.

Katie:

I'd recommend a rewatch.

Katie:

Well, actually, I mean it, or it could be one that I recall being really good.

Katie:

And then if I rewatch it again, you Yeah, it could be one of those.

Katie:

Alright.

Katie:

Shall we get into the movie?

Dominick Tartamella:

Let's do it.

Katie:

Or release date July 12th, 1991, which is almost exactly, 32 years ago

Dominick Tartamella:

Perfect.

Dominick Tartamella:

Perfect timing.

Katie:

Rated R it's over two hours, which I felt it, I, I don't know about you,

Katie:

but I felt that it was over two hours.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

7.2 I M D B.

Katie:

And then, we have Catherine Bigelow, who won two Oscars for the Hurt

Katie:

Locker, and, and then she was also nominated for Zero Dark 30.

Katie:

She is the director here.

Katie:

you know that?

Katie:

I don't think I knew that.

Dominick Tartamella:

I did know that.

Dominick Tartamella:

And then at this time she was with James Cameron.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right?

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

She was married to him at the time.

Dominick Tartamella:

then I think, well, I was watching it yesterday, rewatching it,

Dominick Tartamella:

and he was a, he's a producer on it too.

Katie:

Okay.

Katie:

yeah.

Katie:

that makes sense.

Dominick Tartamella:

Which is interesting.

Dominick Tartamella:

you said terminated too.

Dominick Tartamella:

Came out around this time, so,

Katie:

Oh yeah, that, oh yeah.

Katie:

I hadn't put that together.

Katie:

Yeah, I did.

Dominick Tartamella:

Interesting.

Katie:

Rick King, who's not well known, and then w Peter

Katie:

Illif, those are the writers.

Katie:

And Illif also wrote Varsity Blues and Patriot games.

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

So that's who wrote this.

Katie:

And then we have, uh, obviously Patrick Swayze plays Bodhi, Keanu Reeves plays

Katie:

Johnny Utah, which that name doesn't seem like a real name, then Gary

Katie:

Busey, as you said, he plays Papas, who's kind of the, so this story is

Katie:

sort of, it's not a new story, it's kind of the old dog, new dog, f b i

Katie:

agents and Papas plays the old timer.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Katie:

Petty plays Tyler.

Katie:

And you all would know her probably from, um, like a league of their own

Dominick Tartamella:

Great movie.

Katie:

girl.

Katie:

Free Willy and then she was in Oranges, the New Black.

Katie:

Did you watch

Dominick Tartamella:

my wife was actually, when I was rewatching it

Dominick Tartamella:

yesterday, my wife mentioned that.

Dominick Tartamella:

I didn't know she was in that

Katie:

Then John c McGinley, he plays Ben Harp, like the,

Katie:

the boss, like the F b I boss.

Katie:

And he's, um, most known for Scrubs, Dr.

Katie:

Cox in Scrubs,

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Katie:

he's in tons of stuff.

Katie:

I just, um, listened to an office space podcast and I,

Katie:

I forgot that he was in that.

Dominick Tartamella:

office space.

Dominick Tartamella:

a big

Katie:

he plays a good character in that, James Gro or James Laro, I'm

Katie:

probably not pronouncing that right.

Katie:

He plays Roach who is bodie's like secondhand man,

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Katie:

I didn't know him from anything except for he plays, this

Katie:

guy that Phoebe goes out on a date with in, in a friend's episode.

Katie:

I dunno if you've seen him in anything else.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

He looked familiar.

Dominick Tartamella:

And then I forgot to look at his I M D B, honestly.

Dominick Tartamella:

I was like, where do I know him from , I feel like I know him

Katie:

I think he's done stuff, but nothing, nothing big.

Katie:

At least from that I could see.

Katie:

And then the two other surfers who are actual surfers and

Katie:

they're just part-time actors.

Katie:

So John, , Philbin as Nathaniel, he was also in Children of the Corn.

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, okay.

Katie:

Bo Jesse Christopher, which that's just a freaking awesome name.

Dominick Tartamella:

I gotta that three names.

Katie:

three names.

Katie:

Three first names.

Dominick Tartamella:

Awesome.

Katie:

he's grommet and he actually, um, he looks way different now, but he

Katie:

has a recurring role or did in N C I S.

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, okay.

Katie:

And then we have Anthony Kitas, our Red Hot Chili Peppers front man

Katie:

in a small part here playing tone

Dominick Tartamella:

I completely forgot he was in this movie, Anthony Keis.

Dominick Tartamella:

And then

Katie:

When you watched it yesterday

Dominick Tartamella:

saw it wow, he's in this, because I know

Dominick Tartamella:

Flea did a lot of acting, like he

Katie:

Oh, I don't think I did.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

he's in like, uh, I mean, even before, I think he was in the chili

Dominick Tartamella:

Peppers, like he pops up and I think like back to the future too, and

Katie:

Oh, okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

of movies before.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think they really got big.

Dominick Tartamella:

But I was, I was, I was like, oh, wow.

Dominick Tartamella:

Anthony Keis is in this, completely forgot.

Katie:

Then the last one that you might know is Lee Turon.

Katie:

He plays Rosie in this and he was in Wayne's World, Oz

Katie:

and Monster.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes.

Dominick Tartamella:

I recognized him.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

He looked familiar.

Katie:

I thought so too.

Katie:

The score was composed by Mark Isham and he also worked on a river runs

Katie:

through it of Mice and Men Warrior Nell Crash and the Black Dahlia.

Katie:

So I don't, I didn't really take note of the music when I watched it.

Dominick Tartamella:

yeah, it didn't stand out as much, um, to me as well,

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Like legit resume there for the music here.

Katie:

And then, so this movie won some M T V music or m t v movie awards.

Dominick Tartamella:

okay.

Katie:

I don't know if those are still a thing or not, but

Dominick Tartamella:

I think they do do them.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think they matter a little less than they even did

Dominick Tartamella:

but

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Well, and the, the categories were kind of funny too, but, so Keanu

Katie:

Reeves won for most desirable male,

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, wow.

Katie:

and Patrick was also nominated in the same category.

Katie:

And then Point Break was nominated for, uh, M T V movie Award for the best action

Katie:

sequence.

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

The movie, uh, made 83.5 million on a $24 million budget.

Katie:

So That's good.

Dominick Tartamella:

good.

Dominick Tartamella:

I was gonna say, uh, they did remake it too at one point.

Dominick Tartamella:

Later on.

Dominick Tartamella:

I never even seen the remake, but

Katie:

I was gonna ask you.

Katie:

They did in, I haven't seen it either.

Katie:

It was a 2015 remake and I don't think it made money.

Dominick Tartamella:

No, definitely not

Katie:

Uh, I didn't see it.

Katie:

See there, there's just some movies.

Katie:

I'm like, please don't.

Dominick Tartamella:

Well,

Katie:

Yeah,

Dominick Tartamella:

a movie like this, because it's, I feel like it's just

Dominick Tartamella:

based upon having these actors together, especially Swayze at this time, like at

Dominick Tartamella:

that with 2015, I don't even remember who the actors were in that movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh,

Katie:

don't think anybody well known.

Dominick Tartamella:

the thing,

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Pat Patrick Swayze was really hot, at this time.

Katie:

Like he had quite a run, like Dirty Dancing and then Roadhouse,

Katie:

and then Ghost, and then this.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

So he was probably at the top of his fame.

Katie:

For those of you who haven't seen point break in a while, the description is that

Katie:

in Los Angeles, a gang of bank robbers who call themselves the ex-presidents because

Katie:

they wear masks of the ex-presidents, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, and Johnson during

Katie:

the robberies, the f b I believes that the members of the gang could be surfers,

Katie:

and they send young agent Johnny, Utah undercover at the beach to mix with

Katie:

the surfers and gather information.

Katie:

Utah meets surfer Bodhi and gets drawn into the lifestyle of his new friend.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

what are your overall thoughts when you re-watched it?

Dominick Tartamella:

I like the movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean, it gets a little over the top.

Dominick Tartamella:

It gets a little goofy at times.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, but as I said, Swayze and Keanu are really like the glue in this

Dominick Tartamella:

movie that, that elevate it, you know, if it wasn't them, uh, I think

Dominick Tartamella:

it will be a worse movie to me.

Katie:

Agreed.

Katie:

Now, I don't recall in previous viewings, I probably, because I remember having

Katie:

a little bit of a crush on Keanu like a little bit later, probably

Katie:

around the speed time he got really famous, but I'm honestly shocked that

Katie:

he ended up with such a big career.

Katie:

'cause he is really not very good in his early work.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

That's the, uh, I always have this conversation with people when I talk

Dominick Tartamella:

about Keanu, like, I, I love the guy, but like, as far as an actor, I don't, I don't

Dominick Tartamella:

know if I could say he's a good actor.

Katie:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, I, I think charismatic and

Dominick Tartamella:

obviously he's a handsome guy.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

but I don't, I don't think his acting, I never seen, I've never

Dominick Tartamella:

blown away by any of his performances.

Katie:

Well I haven't seen like the Matrix and what's the newer one

Katie:

that, uh,

Dominick Tartamella:

Wick, is that

Katie:

John Wick, I hear he is better in those and.

Katie:

I guess Patrick is just like electric, I think, and

Katie:

most of the things he does.

Katie:

So he as Bodhi was really great.

Katie:

And I thought that, you know, Johnny, you, Utah, it was fine.

Katie:

Like he didn't do a bad job.

Katie:

I just, there was a few times yesterday when I re-watched that I was like,

Katie:

wow, Keanu's just kind of falling flat

Katie:

a little bit.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Katie:

I don't know,

Katie:

but

Dominick Tartamella:

that's I feel.

Katie:

he's, I hear he is a really good guy,

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh,

Katie:

So like

Katie:

no shade.

Dominick Tartamella:

Well, well, even when he's, I mean, 'cause that's, is that like

Dominick Tartamella:

a ca that's a California accent, right?

Katie:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

of, and then when he is trying to give the fake backstory, Uh,

Katie:

oh, he is from Ohio.

Dominick Tartamella:

my parents died.

Dominick Tartamella:

I'm from Ohio.

Dominick Tartamella:

. Like, I just

Katie:

uh,

Dominick Tartamella:

like, why would she ever believe him?

Katie:

also I actually covered this with CCO for the last of the Action

Katie:

Heroes Network, just like a one-off.

Katie:

Um, and it just happens that I now have a podcast that's covering Patrick.

Katie:

So I'm doing point break, but I could not get over the fact that he uses

Katie:

his real name when he goes undercover.

Dominick Tartamella:

that's

Katie:

Did this bother you at all?

Dominick Tartamella:

well then I was like, when the movie started, 'cause

Dominick Tartamella:

I haven't watched it in a few years, I was like, I'm thinking in my head

Dominick Tartamella:

that Johnny Utah is the fake name.

Dominick Tartamella:

then I'm realizing like,

Katie:

It sounds fake, it sounds like.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Dominick Tartamella:

So much that they, they know his football career, uh,

Dominick Tartamella:

college, right.

Dominick Tartamella:

Where it's like . You couldn't, nobody, they didn't know anybody who

Dominick Tartamella:

could track like the trajectory of this guy's life that they found out

Dominick Tartamella:

he was a cop or anything like that.

Katie:

And he even says, he even tells, uh, Tyler that he went

Katie:

to law school and everything.

Katie:

So I, I don't know.

Katie:

I just find this hard to believe that he, like, why wouldn't he use a fake name?

Katie:

I, I've just, I.

Katie:

Cannot get over that for some reason.

Dominick Tartamella:

uh uh, also to add kind of like a side note, I

Dominick Tartamella:

don't know if you've ever watched any of the Fast the Furious movies,

Dominick Tartamella:

the First Fast and the Furious

Katie:

Like the first two

Dominick Tartamella:

the first like a complete rip off of point break.

Dominick Tartamella:

It's like the same movie cars.

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't know if you ever made that

Katie:

It, is.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: it it really is . It's

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

You know what?

Katie:

Well, it's not a new story.

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Katie:

it's, you know, the

Dominick Tartamella:

cop

Katie:

Oh, you goes, gets too deep.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: Infiltrates world, Right.

Katie:

yeah.

Katie:

And they're fun stories.

Katie:

But now that you say that, and I, it's probably been 20 years

Katie:

since I've seen Fast and Furious, but you're right, it totally is.

Dominick Tartamella:

It's funny 'cause watching it last night, I

Dominick Tartamella:

was like making the connections.

Dominick Tartamella:

'cause I watched Fast and Furious recently again and I was like,

Dominick Tartamella:

wow, this is the same movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

surprised they didn't get sued.

Katie:

Did, did that hold up?

Dominick Tartamella:

um,

Katie:

The original

Dominick Tartamella:

point break is definitely better, I think

Katie:

better.

Katie:

Okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

another one that's kind of goofy and,

Dominick Tartamella:

you know, VIN Diesel's acting.

Dominick Tartamella:

Get it.

Dominick Tartamella:

That's

Katie:

Oh yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

in itself.

Katie:

again, like sometimes I'm like, how do people have

Katie:

such like long lasting careers

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't know.

Dominick Tartamella:

It's crazy.

Dominick Tartamella:

I guess with Keanu I could say it's probably likability.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think he's, and like you said, he's probably a nice guy.

Dominick Tartamella:

probably gotten him far too.

Katie:

yeah.

Katie:

Like people like to work with him, et cetera.

Katie:

Do you think that Tyler, who, so Keanu Reeves, you know, he gets in with her and

Katie:

then he ends up falling in love with her.

Katie:

She teaches him to surf and she's actually bodie's ex girlfriend.

Katie:

So she's in the surfer community.

Katie:

Do you think that she knows that Bodhi and his crew are the bank robbers?

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, I think, I think she's gotta,

Dominick Tartamella:

right, I think she's gotta assume

Katie:

couldn't tell.

Katie:

Like they, I, there was no indication I like realistically, like if I

Katie:

were, of course you'd know that, but there was no indication she does.

Dominick Tartamella:

Maybe she just, I mean, she's gotta know they're

Dominick Tartamella:

up to like some kind of criminal activity in their lifestyle.

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean, they're not working, obviously.

Dominick Tartamella:

They're just floating around on surfboards all day.

Katie:

That's true.

Katie:

That . Yeah.

Katie:

I don't know.

Katie:

Some people are independently wealthy.

Katie:

I don't know, but yeah, she probably does.

Katie:

That's a good point.

Katie:

Listeners, what do you think?

Katie:

Do you think that Tyler knows or not,

Katie:

do you have any favorite scenes

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, I love the chase.

Dominick Tartamella:

love the chase When, uh, right before Keanu hurts his leg from that old

Katie:

The foot chase.

Katie:

Okay.

Katie:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

I was like really engaged at that part.

Dominick Tartamella:

I forgot how good that was.

Dominick Tartamella:

I also love all the, um, the bank robbery stuff.

Dominick Tartamella:

'cause I just like the imagery of the presidents, the Nixon and

Dominick Tartamella:

all the stupid stuff they do.

Katie:

and that they call each other like, Hey Dick,

Dominick Tartamella:

Right,

Katie:

it's ready to go.

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Katie:

I'm not a crook

Dominick Tartamella:

I'm running, I'm running crook.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah, he is doing the voice and showing his ass and stuff.

Dominick Tartamella:

It was, I thought it was all good.

Dominick Tartamella:

all

Katie:

It is funny.

Dominick Tartamella:

And sky, the skydiving stuff's cool

Katie:

I really liked the skydiving stuff.

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't know.

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean, I heard that Swayze did some of real, of the real

Dominick Tartamella:

skydiving 'cause he was a skydiver.

Katie:

Yeah, well,

Dominick Tartamella:

is.

Katie:

I read that too, and also I read his book.

Katie:

I'm a big Swayze fan.

Katie:

I, this man can do literally anything.

Katie:

So yes, he did some of the surf, like not obviously not the major surfing, but

Katie:

a lot of the shots he learned to surf.

Katie:

Um, and then he did do, 55 jumps in total for this movie.

Katie:

So he did, he was actually an accomplished, fairly

Katie:

accomplished skydiver.

Katie:

Yeah,

Dominick Tartamella:

I gotta, I gotta give like Catherine

Dominick Tartamella:

Bigelow credit too for that.

Dominick Tartamella:

The scene at the end when they, uh, when Keanu jumps out without the shoot and

Dominick Tartamella:

stuff, it all, it looks pretty good.

Dominick Tartamella:

It holds up pretty good as far as like, uh, compared to modern day stuff.

Dominick Tartamella:

, you don't

Katie:

agreed.

Dominick Tartamella:

watching, you know, some guy that's not

Dominick Tartamella:

Keanu or you're watching like a blue screen or anything like that.

Dominick Tartamella:

It seems very real.

Katie:

I agree.

Katie:

And I like, that's partially why I like older movies.

Katie:

I, I very much appreciate more practical effects and stunt men doing stunts and, or

Katie:

even the actors doing a lot of the stunts.

Katie:

But I, that scene was probably my favorite scene.

Katie:

That final, um, airplane jump.

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Katie:

It was like the ultimate game of chicken where I could, I was like,

Katie:

I can't believe he's jumping out of a plane with no shoot and just in hopes

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Katie:

he will eventually catch up to Patrick Swayze and

Dominick Tartamella:

amazing,

Katie:

he has to drop the gun like you have to in order to pull

Katie:

the, like bodie's willing to die.

Katie:

He's like, I don't care.

Katie:

I'll die.

Katie:

Big, big whoop.

Katie:

But if you wanna live, you have to drop the gun to pull the chute.

Katie:

And yeah, I really liked that scene.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

And I think it gives, it gives them another like, level of a mutual respect

Dominick Tartamella:

for them, uh, for each other because they realize they're both psychos,

Dominick Tartamella:

, like Swayze's for him to pull it, and then, you know, he's not pulling it

Dominick Tartamella:

and then he finally drops the gun.

Dominick Tartamella:

But I,

Katie:

They are both psychos.

Katie:

I actually, this viewing Especially a few times I was a little confused

Katie:

about both of their motivations.

Katie:

So I was curious to get your thoughts.

Katie:

So Bodhi is all this, you know, I'm one with the ocean and, you

Katie:

know, peace, love all of that.

Katie:

Uh, but then why so why doesn't he call Rosie to let Tyler go before

Katie:

he jumps like Johnny asks him to

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Katie:

be?

Katie:

Do you know what I mean?

Katie:

He's like, you, she served her purpose.

Katie:

You could die.

Katie:

Like, you might not make it to the meat point to let her go.

Katie:

What do you think about that

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean, I just feel like, and I guess this is something with

Dominick Tartamella:

Patrick Swayze playing this villain, that he's just more, he's so much more likable

Dominick Tartamella:

to me because it's Patrick Swayze, whereas like, I don't know if that's how the

Dominick Tartamella:

character was written, you know, where,

Katie:

Oh,

Dominick Tartamella:

you know, like

Katie:

good point.

Dominick Tartamella:

watching him do all these, like, because even, especially

Dominick Tartamella:

towards the end when he gets really like diabolical and they kidnap her, and I'm

Dominick Tartamella:

still sitting there liking him, but I'm like, why is he doing this at the end?

Katie:

Yeah, I think that's what it is.

Katie:

I don't think we're supposed to, it's because we like Patrick

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: I yeah, trying to say.

Katie:

I think it's, it's getting mixed because we have that, you know,

Katie:

past experience with Swayze and liking Swayze, so we're kind of

Katie:

sitting there scratching our heads.

Katie:

But I mean, I get, he's supposed to be the villain, you know, he's

Katie:

a, he kills that cop in the church.

Katie:

Like once he kills the, uh, in the church, in the, in the bank,

Katie:

when he cop, that cop, and he shoots that cop and he kills him.

Katie:

It's kind of like, all right, now he's crossed a line, you know?

Katie:

You know he's gonna die at some point after that.

Katie:

Well, that's another thing.

Katie:

A few times that I'm confused about the Bodhi character and the Johnny character.

Katie:

So, well, why does he, so they have rules and that's how they've

Katie:

skated by this whole time.

Katie:

They just get enough money.

Katie:

They, they don't get greedy and go into the vault.

Katie:

That's the rule.

Katie:

Get in, get out, be done.

Katie:

Nobody gets hurt.

Katie:

Like that's the rules.

Katie:

But then the last, in the last robbery, he breaks his own.

Katie:

Why do you think he does that?

Dominick Tartamella:

That I'm gonna have to put on maybe the writing, you

Dominick Tartamella:

know, where they just throw away a lot of the, the stuff that he stands for.

Dominick Tartamella:

'cause even when Keanu's going after them, at that point, he

Dominick Tartamella:

stops the guy from shooting him.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, even that, like, why did he kill?

Dominick Tartamella:

I, I wasn't expecting it to go that way either, where he just, kills people and

Katie:

I guess we needed it for the story to move forward.

Katie:

Um, but yeah, so I guess at the end of the movie, I'm, I'm sort of now wondering

Katie:

is he really this Bodhi Saba character?

Dominick Tartamella:

right, right.

Katie:

or is he just like every other selfish cult leader

Dominick Tartamella:

Exactly.

Katie:

it all, you know?

Dominick Tartamella:

just like, of crap?

Dominick Tartamella:

Another, another thief, essentially, you know, where he is, just, he's going money.

Dominick Tartamella:

Maybe that's what he You know, the character that he presents to

Dominick Tartamella:

people is the lie he tells himself

Katie:

yeah.

Katie:

Like stick it to the system.

Katie:

That's what's keeping us down and you know, but that's what

Katie:

Keanu's character buys into

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

ultimately.

Katie:

Right.

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Dominick Tartamella:

'cause

Katie:

And then, so then I'm confused about the end with Keanu then

Katie:

too, like his motivation, right?

Katie:

Because he is now at the time, so listeners, so I'm all over the place.

Katie:

Apologies.

Katie:

So there's a, So Patrick Swayze's character gets away.

Katie:

Then like sometime later, I don't know, six months, a year later, we

Katie:

meet them at Bells Beach where they've been talking about this whole time.

Katie:

Um, in Australia, it's this 50 year storm.

Katie:

It's supposed to be the ultimate ride and you'll probably die doing it.

Katie:

And if you're like, if you're a real surfer, you're willing, you

Katie:

know, that's Bodie's whole deal

Katie:

is the ultimate ride.

Katie:

And it's a 50 year storm.

Katie:

So that's where Johnny Utah meets up with him again and he catches him.

Katie:

But by this time, so Johnny's motivation, he's already, now he

Katie:

tells Patrick Swayze's character, he tells Bodhi, yeah, I surf every day.

Katie:

Like you can see his hairs longer and they have this big fight.

Katie:

And he ends up handcuffing Bodhi.

Katie:

But then Bodhi easily talks him into Uncuffing him, you know,

Katie:

just, this is my whole life has been leading up to this moment.

Katie:

Just let me go catch the ultimate ride.

Katie:

And he does.

Katie:

And then he tosses his, um, he tosses his badge.

Katie:

So it's like, was it just so that he could prove to himself that he caught

Katie:

him, but that he, he was already over the system, the man, so to speak.

Dominick Tartamella:

I feel like, especially the dialogue, I don't remember

Dominick Tartamella:

the exact dialogue, but I feel like he's really . He, he, the, the part of

Dominick Tartamella:

him that was a cop and a good cop, he feels obligated to arrest Patrick Swayze

Dominick Tartamella:

because he killed, you know, because he robbed, because he was a criminal.

Dominick Tartamella:

But I, like, I, that's the thing too.

Dominick Tartamella:

I feel like maybe if, if Swayze didn't, know, shoot anybody and,

Dominick Tartamella:

and, and murder anybody, maybe he go.

Dominick Tartamella:

But I feel like because he was a cop, he had to go that door.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think he was gonna throw his badge away.

Dominick Tartamella:

Anyway, I think it was just like, let me close this chapter off

Dominick Tartamella:

and guy to close the book on that

Katie:

But then he lets him go

Dominick Tartamella:

well, him go into probably his suicide, right?

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean,

Katie:

it

Katie:

for sure.

Dominick Tartamella:

himself.

Katie:

he is, but it's, he's easily talked.

Katie:

I mean, it's a, it's a, it's compassionate,

Katie:

know?

Katie:

It's his, it's sort of like they do have like a kinship now, but I, yeah,

Katie:

I guess it was a little confusing to me about the character's motivation.

Katie:

Like,

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Katie:

you know, like, you easily let him go.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I feel like they're what they attempted to show.

Dominick Tartamella:

It really didn't come out Right.

Dominick Tartamella:

Maybe, you know, um, they, they're basically both taking qualities from each

Dominick Tartamella:

other, I feel like, and they're trying to

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Oh, good.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Good point.

Dominick Tartamella:

yeah, I don't think it was executed as

Dominick Tartamella:

well as it as it could have been.

Katie:

Well, I really did like it.

Katie:

I mean, just as a casual viewer, I, a viewer, I thought that was pretty awesome.

Katie:

And I, I'm glad that that's how it ended, that he did get to get his ultimate ride.

Katie:

And, and then everybody, when's he coming back?

Katie:

When's he coming back?

Katie:

He, he's not coming back.

Dominick Tartamella:

coming back.

Katie:

So I did like that, but then he tosses his badge, so I'm like,

Katie:

Hmm, I don't know.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Dominick Tartamella:

He's done, he's basically gonna become, Johnny Utah's just

Dominick Tartamella:

gonna become a surfer now.

Dominick Tartamella:

That's it.

Dominick Tartamella:

His, his, his police days are done.

Katie:

Now, how is he going to fund this surf lifestyle?

Dominick Tartamella:

Maybe, I don't know, maybe he turns to a life of crime.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

He's, he's got the lessons now.

Katie:

Uh, movies.

Katie:

I also really loved how Patrick Swayze.

Katie:

So Bodie's character has this, like, all knowing laugh.

Katie:

It's a laugh, but it's more of a statement.

Katie:

you know what I'm talking about?

Katie:

Like, he'll laugh in a way that just like, it's a statement.

Katie:

And I, I love that Patrick Swayze really pulls it off.

Dominick Tartamella:

That's, yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

That's his presence is just, he's great.

Katie:

He really is.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

Oh, I had forgotten that Papas dies.

Katie:

Did you, were you surprised by that when you re-watched it?

Dominick Tartamella:

as well.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

I, I completely forgot.

Dominick Tartamella:

And that's the thing too.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, you know, he's responsible to bring that up with Keanu Reeves coming back.

Dominick Tartamella:

He's his partner.

Dominick Tartamella:

He killed

Dominick Tartamella:

you know, almost like a father figure to him.

Dominick Tartamella:

So he had

Dominick Tartamella:

that door.

Dominick Tartamella:

He couldn't let Bodhi get away.

Katie:

I took note of a scene where Papa's, um, requests that Johnny go

Katie:

get him a couple of meatball sandwiches from some like sandwich place.

Katie:

So Johnny goes and he orders two meatball sandwiches and then he gets a

Katie:

tuna on wheat or something boring like that for himself and two lemonades.

Katie:

And the bill was like less than $8.

Dominick Tartamella:

I, I noted that too.

Dominick Tartamella:

I, I, it was, I said that to my wife, I was like, wow.

Dominick Tartamella:

Imagine $7 for all that food,

Katie:

I mean, that wasn't, I mean, 91 I guess like 30, 30 years ago.

Katie:

But dang, that's

Katie:

cheap food.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: I think it was like 45

Katie:

yeah,

Dominick Tartamella:

like that.

Katie:

and it was LA too.

Katie:

It wasn't like it was Ohio

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Katie:

somewhere, you know, wherever.

Katie:

They made me hungry for a sandwich.

Dominick Tartamella:

for?

Dominick Tartamella:

Three Meatball sandwiches.

Katie:

I would do a vegan meatball sandwich

Katie:

so there's some trivia.

Dominick Tartamella:

Cool.

Katie:

We already talked about Patrick Swayze's, ability

Katie:

with Surfing and Skydiving.

Katie:

Did you know that there were some additional titles before

Katie:

they came up with Point Break?

Katie:

Were you aware of any other, like possible titles?

Dominick Tartamella:

no, I don't recall any that stand out in my head.

Dominick Tartamella:

were some of them?

Katie:

Well, you know, the Doors Song Riders on the Storm,

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes.

Katie:

that was a, that was one of the titles, which wouldn't have been bad,

Dominick Tartamella:

Wouldn't have

Katie:

think.

Katie:

That would've been Ben.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

And then another title was just Johnny Utah,

Dominick Tartamella:

Johnny Utah.

Katie:

just Johnny Utah.

Katie:

It does sound like a fake name

Katie:

like a superhero or something.

Dominick Tartamella:

that's, that.

Dominick Tartamella:

That would've been a little strange.

Dominick Tartamella:

calling it

Katie:

We wouldn't know what it was.

Katie:

I guess, John Wick is sort of that way.

Katie:

Like you don't, it's just a name.

Dominick Tartamella:

Johnny Mnemonic too.

Dominick Tartamella:

That would've been three

Katie:

Oh yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Keanu Reeves has

Katie:

I forgot about that.

Dominick Tartamella:

the title.

Katie:

He likes the name John or it fits him.

Katie:

apparently Point break wasn't chosen of the title until they

Katie:

were halfway through filming

Katie:

movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

wow.

Dominick Tartamella:

A good title though.

Dominick Tartamella:

Point Frank's, uh,

Katie:

It is,

Dominick Tartamella:

title.

Katie:

it is.

Katie:

Bigelow wanted the actors to do their own fight scenes, which good on you, Bigelow.

Katie:

Yeah, that's always helpful.

Katie:

they, they had training se uh, sessions on the weekends for the actors,

Katie:

to do with the stunt coordinator

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

and allegedly guess who was the only one not president to do this?

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: out of all the actors,

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Keis,

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

How'd you know?

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: she's busy making music.

Katie:

Probably

Katie:

So yeah, he, he was the only one who didn't show up or, or whatnot,

Katie:

according to the research that I found.

Katie:

Therefore, his character, um, gets knocked out with one punch

Katie:

during that first fight sequence.

Dominick Tartamella:

that makes sense.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

That's funny.

Katie:

And Patrick Swayze cracked four ribs while filming the surfing scenes.

Dominick Tartamella:

And he, did I take it he tried to do a

Dominick Tartamella:

lot of his surfing himself or

Katie:

Well, some of the, like, the shots where it was clear, like a closeup

Katie:

shot where they had it had to be him.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

then did have those, most of the long, like the surfing shots from far

Katie:

away were those other two surfers.

Katie:

Swayze, so he wore the Reagan mask.

Katie:

And then Roach, his like right hand guy, wore, uh, Nixon.

Katie:

then the other two guys, Carter and L B J, were like real surfers

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh,

Katie:

kind of d do acting on the side.

Katie:

So I think a lot of the surfing sequences portrayed the latter too.

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

That makes sense.

Dominick Tartamella:

Safer, you know,

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Have you surfed, do you

Dominick Tartamella:

I've never surfed, I've bookie boarded, which

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't even like, I don't even know if that could be considered anything.

Dominick Tartamella:

I've, I've gotten hit by waves and been ripped apart on the beach.

Katie:

That's something, yeah.

Katie:

I, surfing is one of those things to me, sort of like ice

Katie:

skating, like figure skating

Katie:

gymnastics.

Katie:

I'm like, how's that even

Katie:

possible?

Katie:

I,

Dominick Tartamella:

don't even know.

Katie:

it's my brain can't quite.

Dominick Tartamella:

no, you gotta be really, I guess, disciplined and

Dominick Tartamella:

athletic just to jump on that board.

Dominick Tartamella:

And at the right timing.

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't, I don't know, maybe one day.

Dominick Tartamella:

Maybe one day, maybe in a, maybe later in life,

Katie:

You are gonna pick up surfing.

Dominick Tartamella:

pick up surfing.

Katie:

Okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

I'm gonna

Dominick Tartamella:

to Johnny, Utah.

Katie:

Your second, second, part of your life, you'll go,

Katie:

um, you'll go into the F B I.

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Dominick Tartamella:

get the hair transplant to look like, uh, Patrick Swayze's Hair

Katie:

Oh, funny.

Katie:

I always find alternative casting.

Katie:

Very interesting.

Katie:

Have you heard of any of these?

Katie:

Any, like any,

Dominick Tartamella:

I haven't heard of any of the point break.

Dominick Tartamella:

No.

Katie:

So the studio and the producers wanted someone

Katie:

higher profile for Johnny Utah.

Katie:

But Bigelow insisted on Reeves.

Katie:

I'm not sure why, but it was a good movie with, with him in it.

Katie:

But they wanted, um, like a Johnny Depp type.

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

I could see that.

Dominick Tartamella:

I could have saw Johnny

Katie:

I can too.

Katie:

I he, I can totally see Johnny Depp doing a fabulous Johnny Utah

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

. I

Katie:

different movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

uh, why she was so insistent about Keanu.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

I should have looked into that more.

Katie:

Shouldn't I have?

Dominick Tartamella:

I mean, who knows?

Dominick Tartamella:

It could have been just a personal relationship.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Katie:

So Patrick Swayze originally auditioned for the Jonie, Utah role

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Katie:

instead of the Bodhi role.

Katie:

They must have not thought he was right for that and

Katie:

offered him the role of Bodhi.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

Matthew Broderick was originally offered the role of Johnny Utah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Ooh.

Dominick Tartamella:

don't one.

Dominick Tartamella:

I can't pitch her.

Dominick Tartamella:

No.

Dominick Tartamella:

I like

Katie:

No, I can't.

Dominick Tartamella:

I love First Bueller.

Dominick Tartamella:

You know, I like him as an actor,

Katie:

I agreed.

Katie:

Agreed.

Dominick Tartamella:

him, uh, uh, in that role.

Katie:

I do not.

Katie:

and then obviously, so we talked about Johnny Depp others, uh,

Katie:

for the role of Johnny Utah.

Katie:

Charlie Sheen.

Dominick Tartamella:

Okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

Sheen.

Dominick Tartamella:

I

Dominick Tartamella:

I could maybe see Charlie Sheen

Katie:

Willem Defoe,

Dominick Tartamella:

as

Katie:

which I guess he wouldn't be young.

Katie:

He wouldn't be like the young buck.

Katie:

I don't, I mean, he's a good actor, right?

Katie:

He could probably, it just wouldn't be like this young,

Katie:

um, like I hurt my knee playing,

Katie:

I don't know.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right?

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah, it would definitely be a different movie.

Katie:

And then Val Kilmer, which I could see Val Kilmer.

Dominick Tartamella:

Val Kilmer I could see as well.

Dominick Tartamella:

Definitely see Doc Kilmer.

Katie:

and then from a directorial standpoint, they

Katie:

originally wanted Ridley Scott.

Katie:

To direct this,

Katie:

but he was doing film on Louise

Katie:

at this time or at that time also.

Katie:

Great movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yes.

Dominick Tartamella:

Good

Katie:

So, but yeah, I didn't, I had, I didn't even know who Katherine Bigelow

Katie:

was before, like The Hurt Locker.

Katie:

So

Dominick Tartamella:

She also did a movie, uh, I wanna say it was either a year,

Dominick Tartamella:

but that movie Near Dark with like the

Dominick Tartamella:

Vamp Bill, bill Paxton's in it, I believe.

Katie:

I didn't see that movie, but I know what you're talking about.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

She Those were like this and that were her earlier, uh, things.

Dominick Tartamella:

Then she came back with like her locker, uh, later on.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

She's a good director.

Dominick Tartamella:

I like her stuff.

Katie:

I liked those two, like those Hurt Locker and, um, dark

Katie:

30, those, I liked both of those.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah, she's, she's definitely good.

Katie:

So I talked about this, this little tidbit 'cause I recently covered

Katie:

dirty dancing, which was super fun.

Katie:

So I covered this little tidbit there too.

Katie:

So check out the dirty dancing episode everyone.

Katie:

But, so when Bodhi is introduced to Johnny, Utah on the beach, he remarks

Katie:

that Utah's surfboard reminds him of a 57 Chevy that he used to have.

Katie:

And the car that Patrick Swayze drove in dirty Dancing was a 57 Chevy.

Dominick Tartamella:

wow.

Dominick Tartamella:

I didn't even make that awesome.

Katie:

I think those, I love those little things in movies.

Dominick Tartamella:

Easter eggs.

Katie:

apparently the F word was used, uh, lots.

Katie:

Do you have any guess what the count was

Dominick Tartamella:

I wanna say,

Katie:

in?

Dominick Tartamella:

close to a hundred.

Katie:

Yeah,

Dominick Tartamella:

it was.

Katie:

times.

Katie:

105 times.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Good guess.

Dominick Tartamella:

I know my f word counts.

Katie:

did you pick up on the other little, like east drag calling back

Katie:

to another Patrick Swayze role?

Dominick Tartamella:

I, I thought I heard something about, uh, they said

Dominick Tartamella:

something about Roadhouse, didn't they?

Dominick Tartamella:

Am I, am I crazy?

Dominick Tartamella:

I thought I caught something.

Katie:

No, you're not.

Katie:

You're not.

Katie:

And I liked your, I heard your episode on Roadhouse.

Katie:

Do you and your brother did?

Katie:

That was funny.

Katie:

I look, yeah.

Katie:

Okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

That was

Katie:

Yeah, you guys have to check that out.

Katie:

so yeah, when, so Johnny's like talking about, he's like staking out, uh, the

Katie:

movements of Bodhi and so he's listing the places where he followed Bodhi

Katie:

to, and he, in that list, he goes to Tower Records, which, that was a whole

Dominick Tartamella:

right.

Katie:

flashback to 1991.

Katie:

Um, and then he had, he had lunch at Patrick's Roadhouse,

Katie:

which was a nod to his,

Dominick Tartamella:

It

Katie:

his Roadhouse movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

I love that.

Dominick Tartamella:

I love when they do that.

Katie:

I do too.

Katie:

via Con Dios.

Katie:

Via Con Dios, they say a few times.

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Katie:

I like that.

Katie:

Go with God.

Dominick Tartamella:

Con Diaz.

Dominick Tartamella:

. I Keanu

Katie:

that a surfer thing

Dominick Tartamella:

I

Katie:

or It's in a mo It's in movies.

Katie:

A

Dominick Tartamella:

I just

Katie:

Do it again.

Dominick Tartamella:

via Con Diaz.

Katie:

you do pretty good impressions.

Dominick Tartamella:

Thank you.

Dominick Tartamella:

I try, I haven't, I gotta, I gotta work on a Patrick Swayze one.

Dominick Tartamella:

I know.

Dominick Tartamella:

Me and my brother just yell random Roadhouse quotes to each other sometimes.

Dominick Tartamella:

But I haven't really polished that.

Dominick Tartamella:

I gotta work on that.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

I don't know if he has a

Dominick Tartamella:

it's, he's a, he's definitely a hard one to do.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: Keanu's a 'cause Keanu just.

Katie:

Especially everything he says.

Katie:

You could just, you could just get an impression off of watching

Katie:

Bill and Ted with all the goofy stuff he says, did the Hmong girls

Katie:

rule China ? Just him saying that.

Katie:

Hmong girls yeah.

Katie:

Patrick's more of like, he's an everyman.

Katie:

Like he and Kurt Russell.

Katie:

They don't have, like, there's not, um, it's not like cartoony

Katie:

Dominick Tartamella: If you had do you pick?

Katie:

Kurt Russell.

Katie:

Patrick Swayze.

Katie:

Patrick

Katie:

Patrick Swayze.

Katie:

What about you?

Dominick Tartamella:

ah, don't know.

Dominick Tartamella:

It might, be a hard choice, but I might have to go Kurt Russell.

Dominick Tartamella:

I don't know what it is.

Dominick Tartamella:

Something about Kurt Russell

Katie:

What I've noticed by doing this is it seems as though more men like Kurt

Katie:

better and more women like Patrick better.

Dominick Tartamella:

I could see

Katie:

I don't know that's, you know, anecdotal

Katie:

evidence,

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think Dirty Dancing a lot of points with the ladies.

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Yeah.

Dominick Tartamella:

is

Katie:

it, it certainly does.

Dominick Tartamella:

so it's like one of those things when you, when you think

Dominick Tartamella:

about the, the actor, I don't think Kurt Russell doesn't have a movie like that.

Dominick Tartamella:

Right.

Dominick Tartamella:

Thinking back on his filmography, I don't think he has a movie that would

Dominick Tartamella:

be, more women maybe gravitate, uh,

Katie:

like super where he's just like a very like sensual

Dominick Tartamella:

right?

Katie:

role.

Katie:

I can't think of one either.

Katie:

The other thing too is that Patrick is just so multi-talented.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Katie:

I would

Katie:

recommend like reading his book, but yeah, he's just

Dominick Tartamella:

What's the name gotta, I gotta read that.

Katie:

well, there's more than one, but it's, uh, oh shoot.

Katie:

I, I think it's called the time of my Life.

Dominick Tartamella:

I gotta look that up.

Katie:

And he wrote it like right before his death with

Katie:

he co-wrote it with his wife.

Katie:

Um, so I think that's kind of another thing is that, um, he's no

Katie:

longer with us and so I miss him.

Dominick Tartamella:

Mm-hmm.

Dominick Tartamella:

, and like you said, multi-talented, danced, sing,

Katie:

Yeah.

Katie:

Actually I was just doing some research, research for the Roadhouse

Katie:

episode and, um, he, he sang a couple songs on that soundtrack.

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, and the Roadhouse soundtrack.

Dominick Tartamella:

Did he?

Dominick Tartamella:

Oh, wow.

Dominick Tartamella:

I didn't even know that.

Dominick Tartamella:

I that

Katie:

I didn't, I didn't either.

Katie:

I'm, but I'm covering that, that one soon

Katie:

and, I mean obviously we know that a dancing one, Patrick Swayze,

Katie:

he's, uh, he flew planes that he and Kurt both had their pilot's license,

Dominick Tartamella:

Right?

Katie:

point break is definitely action packed and I can never get

Katie:

too much Swayze, so it was exciting being back in 1991 for a while, but

Katie:

we must now return to present day

Katie:

next,

Dominick Tartamella:

the dark gloomy 2023

Katie:

it's right.

Katie:

Until the next retro made episode you guys, then we'll go back in time again.

Katie:

Dom, it was a pleasure talking about 91 with you and the Wild ride.

Katie:

That is point break.

Katie:

Do you have any closing thoughts about the movie or Patrick or Kurt or,

Katie:

and tell us where we can all find you

Dominick Tartamella:

okay.

Dominick Tartamella:

Um, I, I like the movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think it's a good movie.

Dominick Tartamella:

I think if you've never seen it, it's definitely worth watching.

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, it's definitely a product of its time, you know, with the surfing and just

Dominick Tartamella:

I said, Keanu running around doing his thing, and Swayze, uh, it's, you know,

Dominick Tartamella:

not a great movie, but it's, it's fun.

Dominick Tartamella:

It's fun to be had point break.

Katie:

Agreed.

Katie:

Where can we find you?

Dominick Tartamella:

Uh, you could find me, uh, on my podcast movie Thoughts.

Dominick Tartamella:

It's on Spotify, iTunes, and then you could also find me on Twitter,

Dominick Tartamella:

TikTok and Instagram at, uh, dom solo reels where I post some stupid,

Dominick Tartamella:

sometimes I do impressions and stupid videos and stuff like that.

Katie:

It is fun and you are good at impressions.

Katie:

It's very fun.

Katie:

I would highly recommend everyone check out Dom's Creative side and thank you

Katie:

all for listening or watching on YouTube.

Katie:

Please be sure to follow the show and consider giving it a rating or a review

Katie:

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