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Episode 56

National Lampoon's European Vacation | S2E14

Pack your bags and grab your phrasebook—we’re heading back to 1985 for the 40th anniversary of National Lampoon’s European Vacation. We’ll relive the Griswold's’ chaotic trek across the continent while also diving into pop culture that defined the mid-’80s.

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

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Hello?

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I'm Katie and welcome back to

Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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Today you better pack your

bags and grab your phrase book.

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Know what that is 'cause we're headed

back to:

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of National Lampoons European Vacation.

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We'll relive the Griswold's chaotic

Trek across the continent while

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also diving into pop culture

that defined the mid eighties.

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I am very happy to welcome back Zoe

from Back Look Cinema, the podcast.

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Thank you for coming back

to join me for season two.

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Zoe, what's new?

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What's up with back look Cinema lately?

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Alonzo Richardson: Thank you.

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It's good to be back.

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Well, we're closing in

on our 200th episode.

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I actually prerecorded that episode 'cause

I wanted to make sure that I get it out.

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It's gonna be on my favorite movie,

so I'm excited to talk about that.

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But upcoming now it's on Bill and Ted's

bogus journey, and I'm excited about

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that because I actually like it better

than Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.

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Katie: I don't remember it.

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That's the sequel.

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Right.

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Alonzo Richardson: That

is the first sequel.

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Katie: Well,

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Alonzo Richardson: And.

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Katie: an example of you liking the

sequel better than the original.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Go

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Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, there, there are lots of

examples that I could pull out.

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There's star Trek two, the RAF of

Con, which , everybody acknowledges

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is way better than the first film.

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Most people believe that the Empire

Strikes Backs is, is way better than Star

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Wars, but that is, that's to be expected

because the production values are so much

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better and it, it's kind of a, I don't

wanna say it's a downer, but it's a darker

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tail because in this, in the second.

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Movie that the heroes don't

actually triumph in the end.

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So it's an unusual ending.

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And, and so on.

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and so forth.

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There, there are so many other examples.

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There's none of these will be

relevant to, to, to your interests,

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but another example is Captain

America and went Captain Civil War.

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And in that one, actually

it's Winter Soldier, I think

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is first, and then Civil War.

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Either one of those are

better than the first Captain

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America movie, so, yeah, yeah,

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Katie: have to trust you if not seen

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Alonzo Richardson: yeah.

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I know.

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And you won't.

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Katie: No, I'll not.

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I'll not,

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Alonzo Richardson: As a matter of fact,

I just watched two superhero movie two

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superhero movies almost back to back.

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So the Superman came out and then

Fantastic Four came out, and I

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had a blast with both of those.

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And I recommend Superman

to, to any dog lover.

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Any, anybody who loves a

dog would love this movie.

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And I really loved that they

put a bunch of comic book

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stuff in the movie that's not.

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normally in the movie, especially crypto.

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And it's just a, a touching

movie that, that I truly enjoyed.

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Katie: I've heard good things.

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I don't know, maybe we'll see.

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Maybe, maybe I'll check it out.

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I am a, a very big dog lover.

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Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

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Katie: both dogs and big dogs.

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So Well awesome.

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I'm looking forward to your 200th episode.

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But before we do, we are here to continue

to celebrate summer with the European

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vacation that came out 40 years ago.

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Now we're gonna open the time

capsule from this summer of:

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we did already cover a lot of the

pop culture with the wheel that we

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spend, the retro made wheel with all

of the categories in the Weird science

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episode and the Breakfast Club episode.

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instead of doing that, Zoe, I'm just gonna

ask you questions from the categories

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that we didn't land on for those.

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So whether you like it or

not, that's what we're doing.

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Alonzo Richardson: Awesome.

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Hit me.

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Katie: I feel like, okay,

this is the mid eighties.

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There's lots of good things

happening in the pop culture

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realm, especially, I feel like.

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Now think back to 1985, there's a lot

of iconic soundtracks in the top movies,

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unforgettable, one-liners and some

of the biggest stars of the decade.

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Do you think that you can name

any of the top five movies?

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Alonzo Richardson: Probably not.

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I, I believe that one of 'em

should be back to the future.

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Katie: Number one,

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Alonzo Richardson: But

what else came out in:

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Katie: I

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Alonzo Richardson: that's

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Katie: all but one of them.

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you already got back to

fu, back to the future.

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Number two

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Alonzo Richardson: as, as.

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Katie: one of the biggest

comedians of the time.

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Alonzo Richardson: He is one of

the biggest mediums of that time.

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Oh my goodness.

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But there were so many.

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There's a, what's his name?

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Rodney Dangerfield, but I don't know

if he had a movie in:

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did come out with a bunch of movies.

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Even Andrew Dice Clay

was big at one time, so,

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Katie: I would say the biggest

comedian at the time, big movie star.

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There were multiple sequels to

this movie, but this is the first

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Alonzo Richardson: oh, I know

what you're talking about.

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You're talking about Eddie Murphy.

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So you must be talking

about Beverly Hills Cop.

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Katie: Yes, yes.

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Yep.

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Now number three and number

four, this is amazing.

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And it's very down my alley.

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Up my alley, whichever you say.

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One of the biggest, would say

the biggest one of two big

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action stars of the eighties.

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This particular gentleman has

both the number three and the

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number four movie in 1985.

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What were they?

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Alonzo Richardson: Hmm.

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Katie: Men.

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Muscle Man.

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Alonzo Richardson: Oh, must, oh,

so probably Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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So if it's Arnold Schwarzenegger,

then oh, you're shaking your head no,

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it's not him, but it is a Muscle Man.

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Katie: The other one.

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Alonzo Richardson: The other one?

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there are like three of 'em.

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So there's Arnold

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Katie: two, two top ones, right?

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Alonzo Richardson: two top ones.

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The other one is Sylvester Stallone.

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Katie: Okay?

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And he

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Alonzo Richardson: um,

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Katie: Movies

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Alonzo Richardson: he had

two movies Goodness gracious.

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Katie: in 85.

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Alonzo Richardson: Maybe one

of 'em was tequila Sunrise.

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Maybe one of 'em was

one of the Rocky movies.

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Maybe.

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Maybe Rocky two.

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Katie: Zoe, I'm disappointed in you.

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Okay, so number three is

Rambo First Blood part two.

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Alonzo Richardson: that's so sad.

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That is, that is sad.

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That's one of the earliest

movies that I covered that, that

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may have been the first one.

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Katie: It was a really good one.

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And I have a dog named Rambo

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Alonzo Richardson: Right?

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Katie: number four is.

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Rocky four

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Alonzo Richardson: Oh, okay.

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So one of 'em was the Rocky movies.

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I just guessed the wrong one.

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They both came out in 1985.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Isn't that crazy?

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He

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Alonzo Richardson: Oh my goodness.

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I didn't realize he was cooking like that.

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He was, cooking with kerosene

and gasoline mixed together,

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and then he just set it on fire.

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Katie: he definitely.

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And those are, oh man, Rocky

four is my favorite Rocky movie.

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I have a dog named Balboa, so,

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Alonzo Richardson: And as, as an

aside, I think it's up your alley,

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not down your alley, because down

your alley sounds dirty somehow.

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Katie: you're right.

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You are correct.

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Number five, I don't think you'll guess,

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Alonzo Richardson: Okay.

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Katie: but maybe with this clue

it's about old people and sci-fi.

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Alonzo Richardson: Oh, I do know this one.

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It's Cocoon.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Alonzo Richardson: I remember that movie.

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I gotta cover that one.

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That was, so this was in the

midst of the Gutenberg era.

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When he was triumphant.

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He was like on the top of his game.

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Every, every man wanted to be him.

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All the ladies wanted to be with him.

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He was in that era and he had a bunch

of movies, like a string of movies

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that came out right around the same

time that just really elevated him.

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And then he's.

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Sort of just disappeared.

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Katie: He did.

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He did

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Alonzo Richardson: I mean, and the funny

thing is that he hasn't disappeared.

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He just leveled the television.

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Did you see that thing with him?

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During the California Fires?

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I think it was last year.

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Katie: Yes, yes

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Alonzo Richardson: And I was like,

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Katie: Yeah.

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Alonzo Richardson: and he was talking

to the reporter and the reporter

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was Like can I have your name?

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sir?

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And, you know, he gave his Name?

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Steve Guten Gutenberg, and

the reporter cheated him.

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Like, He's just a regular dude.

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That was the funniest thing in the world.

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Katie: Probably.

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'cause the reporter was

like under 35 maybe.

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Alonzo Richardson: yeah, yeah.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Alonzo Richardson: I, you know what?

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To be honest, I probably wouldn't

recognize him because I hadn't

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seen him in such a long time.

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So my only reference point is

from his movies when he still

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had black hair and he was.

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in really good shape, and now

he looks like a regular dude,

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and his hair's gone all gray.

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He looks way different than

when he was much younger.

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Katie: I don't know though, if

you combine that with the very,

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not typical name Steve Gutenberg.

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You know, I think I, I think I'd be

like, are you the Steve Gutenberg?

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I

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Alonzo Richardson: right,

right, right, right.

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Katie: Let's do some

commercials or some slogans.

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Commercial.

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Countdown.

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So Kiss a little longer, left.

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A little longer.

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Stay close.

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A little longer.

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Longer with,

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Alonzo Richardson: Big red.

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Katie: yeah.

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Good job.

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Alonzo Richardson: This is back when we

were forced to watch commercials and so

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everybody knew all of the commercials,

so I'm going to get some of these.

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Katie: Well, there's one that you'll know,

but if I sing it, it's the name of it.

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So we'll skip that one.

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They're magically delicious.

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Alonzo Richardson: Hold on.

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They still do that one.

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Katie: Uhhuh.

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Alonzo Richardson: it is

like Lucky Charms, isn't it?

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Katie: That's Lucky Charms.

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I wanted to do re cola, but

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Alonzo Richardson: Oh, re Rico.

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Katie: cola.

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Alonzo Richardson: Yeah, it gives it away.

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Katie: do that without giving it away.

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See.

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Raise your hand if you're sure.

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What was the product?

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Alonzo Richardson: I

know it's the odorant.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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I said the name of it in it.

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Alonzo Richardson: Sure.

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Katie: Yeah.

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And I, that doesn't

exist anymore, does it?

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Alonzo Richardson: it?

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probably does.

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They just don't advertise

like they used to.

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It's like I see all of the old brands.

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I don't see, I, I don't, I don't feel like

there are any old brands that are missing.

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I feel like I see all, like Tide is still

around or some, even if the company falls

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under that, somebody will pick up the.

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The, what you call it, the name.

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And they'll they'll use that

name and keep the name going.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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I remember certain shampoos

like PERT and Salon Selectives

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Alonzo Richardson: Maybe

not Salon Selective.

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I, I thought maybe we

were gonna say suave.

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I remember, I think I still see Suave.

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It, it is funny, right?

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'cause

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Katie: around.

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Alonzo Richardson: I don't

shop for those anymore, so I

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don't, which is kind of

funny that I don't, I'm, I'm

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going to the fancier stuff.

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I think it started with when I was in

my twenties and I was getting ax every,

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every dude goes through the ax phase.

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Katie: Yep.

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That was a little Later

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Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

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Katie: but yeah.

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Are you ready for stars and scandals?

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Alonzo Richardson: All right.

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This is gonna be fun.

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Katie: Which two magazines caused Disturb

by publishing intimate photos of a rising

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pop star known for her bold persona that

many saw as part of her image evolution.

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two magazines were they

and who was the Pop Star

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Alonzo Richardson: Ooh.

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So I'm afraid I'm not gonna get this.

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And the funny thing is that I used to

watch Entertainment Tonight religiously.

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So I'm thinking that maybe,

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Katie: Star

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Alonzo Richardson: maybe one of

'em was People Magazine and maybe

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one of 'em was maybe the Enquirer

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Katie: That's a good guess.

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I would say intimate photos leans more

towards something a little more risque.

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Alonzo Richardson: risque.

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I can't.

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I can't think of it.

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It, and I don't, I'm not even sure

what photos they're talking about.

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This is in the 1980s, so it

could have been like Madonna.

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That's the only person I can think of,

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Katie: It's Madonna.

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It is Madonna.

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Alonzo Richardson: but I don't even know

which what, what she did, because that

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the things that were always risque about

her was like a lot of her music videos

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that they garnered a lot of attention.

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They, people were upset of all of

the sexualization in the video.

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So if there was a, a real life scandal

with some, some sex scandal that she

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may have been in, I, I don't know

if I was all that tuned into it.

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Katie: Well, I think people

were just a little prty so the

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magazines are Playboy and Penthouse,

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Alonzo Richardson: Oh,

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Katie: posed for photos and she

was a rising pop star, and so

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people were like, can't believe she

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Alonzo Richardson: oh, so you're

saying that, you're saying professional

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photos, not paparazzi photos.

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Katie: I honestly, I don't know.

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So if

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Alonzo Richardson: Well, she,

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Katie: It just says that the, this

them publishing the photos and I

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don't know if she posed for them or

if they were pop paparazzi photos,

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Alonzo Richardson: well, I'm, I,

remember she famously posed for a

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Playboy and comedians used to make

fun of it because she didn't shave.

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Like she was like really hairy.

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people made, made fun of the her

Playboy photos, and that was a big deal.

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I remember it was a big deal.

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It was going out that Madonna was

posing for Playboy, but I don't

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remember what happened with Penthouse.

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I don't remember her

posing with penthouse.

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Katie: but yeah, it was Playboy and

Penthouse, so she probably posed

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for them and it was just in 85.

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Alonzo Richardson: Right.

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Katie: the new, you know, be still kind

of new on the scene and they're like, ah,

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Alonzo Richardson: That's

definitely scandalous,

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especially if you're a pop star.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Alonzo Richardson: there were

a lot of people doing it.

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Well, not a lot of celebrities, but it was

kind of a thing to do to pose for Playboy,

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or at the very least, doing an interview

for Playboy or one of its affiliates.

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I remember there's a professional

wrestler named Shawn Michaels,

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a Nelo for Play Girl Magazine.

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Katie: Gets attention, you know, people

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About it.

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Alonzo Richardson: So that, that was

a big thing, and that there were a

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couple other celebrities that did it.

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Katie: mm-hmm.

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Alonzo Richardson: I was, if you

really wanted to, I don't know.

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It's like, instead of being a troll on

the internet, what they did back then

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was posed for Playboy or penthouse.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Alright.

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Witch Hollywood actor whose death in

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a disease still widely misunderstood

at the time he died in Beverly Hills,

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leaving behind a legacy that changed

the way that the disease was viewed.

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Who was it?

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Alonzo Richardson: I am thinking

that you're talking about Rock

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Hudson and the disease is aids.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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I remember hearing about this,

but I don't like at the time,

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I, I was too young to recall

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Alonzo Richardson: Right, right, right.

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I remember I was young too, but I

remember that everybody was really

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talking about it and one commentator,

it was either a commentator or a

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celebrity that was like, they should

just call it the Rock Hudson Disease.

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'cause nobody was paying attention

to it until Rock Hudson died from it.

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Katie: Oh yeah.

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'cause

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Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

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Katie: early.

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85.

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Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

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And obviously at that time

they were suppressing the

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information about DIS disease.

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They wanted people to believe that

it was only people in the L-G-B-T-Q

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community that was getting the

disease, so specifically gay men.

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And they didn't realize that regular,

regular people like themselves

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could get it to regular degular.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Alonzo Richardson: I'm

regular, I can't get it.

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Yes, yes you can.

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AIDS is an equal opportunity disease.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Alonzo Richardson: everybody can catch it.

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And that was one of the things

that helped people get informed

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about and treat it seriously.

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Katie: Yeah, you're right.

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It says that he left behind

a legacy that changed the way

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that the disease was viewed.

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In August of 1985, a pop icon married

an actor known for his volatile

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reputation with the wedding taking

place in a dramatic clifftop ceremony.

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Who were they?

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Alonzo Richardson: I'm sure I

don't know this probably Sean

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Penn maybe Madonna and Sean Penn.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Alonzo Richardson: Did,

did I get that right?

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Katie: married for a short while?

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Alonzo Richardson: I remember

a couple of marriages.

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I remember prince and Diana, I

remember that marriage and I, I

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think I remember people talking about

Madonna and Sean Penn getting married,

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Alonzo Richardson: but I don't think they

stayed married that long either, did they?

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Katie: No.

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Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

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Katie: one, another marriage short-lived

in:

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embodying a tough fighter Spirit surprised

many by marrying his much younger

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CoStar from a box office hit remember?

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Remember

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Alonzo Richardson: Oh,

are you talking about

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Katie: in a short-lived marriage

marked by public drama and

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a divorce two years later.

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Who were they?

424

:

Alonzo Richardson: are you

talking about Rocky Four?

425

:

That was the movie and it was Sylvester

Stallone and Bridgette is it Nielsen?

426

:

Katie: Jit Nielsen.

427

:

Alonzo Richardson:

Bridgette Nielsen, yeah.

428

:

Katie: Yep,

429

:

Alonzo Richardson: she got some

incredible tastes because I think,

430

:

didn't they star in Cobra together also?

431

:

Katie: yep.

432

:

Alonzo Richardson: And then later

on, BridgeIT Nielsen Star and

433

:

it was a, what do you call it,

reality show with Flavor Flav.

434

:

And they had a, like a, a

short-lived relationship.

435

:

She, she has some incredible

tastes, like she's tolerant.

436

:

She doesn't have a type,

let's put it that way.

437

:

She doesn't seem to have a type.

438

:

Katie: yeah.

439

:

Yes.

440

:

She's interesting.

441

:

I do remember I loved that show.

442

:

I watched every episode of it.

443

:

She called him Foofy Foofy.

444

:

I loved it.

445

:

Yep.

446

:

I was, I was there for the craziness of

447

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah, it.

448

:

was called flavor of love.

449

:

Katie: Well, that was the surreal life.

450

:

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, okay.

451

:

Katie: and then a spinoff.

452

:

So Flav Flav of Flav

Re popularized by that.

453

:

And

454

:

Alonzo Richardson: Right,

455

:

Katie: That off and did several seasons

of Flavor of Love, and then that got

456

:

spun off and then that got spun off.

457

:

So there were like six spinoffs

458

:

Alonzo Richardson: right.

459

:

Katie: that one romance.

460

:

Mm-hmm.

461

:

Alonzo Richardson: That's crazy.

462

:

Katie: Like I love New York.

463

:

There was a few of 'em.

464

:

'cause Yeah.

465

:

And I would say he's the exact opposite of

Sylvester Stallone in every possible way.

466

:

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, really?

467

:

Yeah.

468

:

Yeah.

469

:

I, I agree wholeheartedly.

470

:

Katie: That's, that's a wild romance.

471

:

That one.

472

:

'cause she's super tall too.

473

:

Alonzo Richardson: Right, right, right.

474

:

Katie: Well, let's do maybe one more.

475

:

Hmm.

476

:

I gotta pick carefully.

477

:

Oh, which category?

478

:

Alonzo Richardson: Well,

I like these questions.

479

:

I like the clues that you

supply because otherwise I, I

480

:

would be goose eggs over here.

481

:

Katie: Let's do fad flashback.

482

:

This is actually prescient from our,

just now, what we just talked about.

483

:

This television network launched in 1985,

focused on music videos for an older

484

:

audience, older positioning itself as

an alternative to a younger counterpart.

485

:

What

486

:

Alonzo Richardson: So you

must be talking about VH one.

487

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

488

:

Alonzo Richardson: Ah, I got it.

489

:

Katie: And that's what wasn't that

what Surreal Life and Flavor of

490

:

Love and all those shows were on

491

:

Alonzo Richardson: I have no idea.

492

:

Katie: Pretty sure of it.

493

:

Pretty sure of it.

494

:

Alonzo Richardson: I think the

only the only reality television

495

:

I watched was probably something

like Cops or something similar.

496

:

Katie: It's funny because I didn't

really get into like road rules or I

497

:

think I watched like one season of the

real world, like when there was, when

498

:

it was still like real, real, like

499

:

Alonzo Richardson: It felt real.

500

:

Katie: But I did like some

of these VH one shows.

501

:

But I hate reality TV or trash tv,

whatever you wanna call it now.

502

:

I don't watch any of those like

Kardashians or Vander Plump or whatever.

503

:

Alonzo Richardson: I've

never really gotten into it.

504

:

I maybe seen like a couple

of episodes of the Real World

505

:

and I was like, you know what?

506

:

Not for me.

507

:

I do, I do like the, the

parodies of the real world.

508

:

Those are funny.

509

:

Katie: Yeah.

510

:

Okay.

511

:

Let's do two more questions

from this category and then

512

:

we'll roll into the movie.

513

:

Alonzo Richardson: All.

514

:

Katie: Alright.

515

:

Again, we're in 85.

516

:

This historic event kicked off a

worldwide phenomenon that brought

517

:

together athletes for theatrical

competition and entertainment.

518

:

What was it?

519

:

Alonzo Richardson: Theatrical competition.

520

:

Katie: It was the first, I'll

give you this additional clue.

521

:

It was the first of this longstanding

522

:

Alonzo Richardson: Hmm.

523

:

This isn't an, an award show, is it?

524

:

Katie: athletes and theatrical

performance, or just don't get too

525

:

caught up in the word theatrical.

526

:

It's not

527

:

Alonzo Richardson: Um, Right, right,

528

:

Katie: it's, entertainment,

529

:

Alonzo Richardson: right, right, right,

530

:

Katie: athletic entertainment.

531

:

Alonzo Richardson: right.

532

:

I mean, all I can think of is,

professional wrestling, but I know

533

:

that's not what you're talking about.

534

:

Oh, that's what you're talking about.

535

:

Katie: the first.

536

:

It is, but it's

537

:

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, so you're

saying this is in:

538

:

you're talking about WrestleMania one.

539

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

540

:

Alonzo Richardson: Ah, got it, got it.

541

:

Sports entertainment is what they call it.

542

:

Katie: That is like a

new term though, right?

543

:

They didn't

544

:

Alonzo Richardson: yeah, yeah.

545

:

Yeah, you, you, it was throwing

me off when you said theatrical,

546

:

it was like, well, theatrics and

athletes, it could only be wrestling.

547

:

Katie: I know.

548

:

Yeah, you're right.

549

:

It was the first WrestleMania in 85.

550

:

I don't think I realized that.

551

:

I sort of assumed it

was earlier than 85 for

552

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

553

:

It seemed like it might've been earlier,

but at at the same time, it's something

554

:

that could only happen in the eighties.

555

:

'cause any earlier than you have

the situation where the wrestling

556

:

organizations were divided in the

territories and even like in:

557

:

still had some of those territories

and WrestleMania basically broke that.

558

:

It was like kind of broke

up the territorial system.

559

:

Katie: Oh, that makes sense.

560

:

Yeah.

561

:

Okay.

562

:

Yeah.

563

:

All right.

564

:

Alonzo Richardson:

This, these are guesses.

565

:

These aren't facts.

566

:

These are guesses.

567

:

Katie: No, that tracks though.

568

:

That, I mean, I, I bought it.

569

:

last question.

570

:

This new service debuting in 1985

offered classic television reruns

571

:

after dark, aimed at a nostalgic,

older demographic, but shared

572

:

airtime with a children's channel.

573

:

Alonzo Richardson: So this

would be Nick, at night.

574

:

and it's on Nickelodeon.

575

:

Katie: Yes.

576

:

Nick, at

577

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yes.

578

:

I used to love Nickelodeon.

579

:

I caught a lot of the content and we

used to have a Nickelodeon telephone.

580

:

I missed that phone.

581

:

It was a.

582

:

A landline phone and it, you know,

I had a crazy child's design.

583

:

I I really appreciated that phone.

584

:

I have no idea what happened to it,

but when it rang, instead of ringing

585

:

like a, a regular telephone, it would

sing the nickname, it would go Nick,

586

:

Nick, Nick, the Nic, Nick Nickelodeon.

587

:

I love that phone.

588

:

Katie: I forgot about that old time.

589

:

Like the original, you're

right, that's what it

590

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah,

591

:

Katie: I loved Nick at night.

592

:

I can thank them for, that's how I got

introduced to a lot of those old shows.

593

:

Alonzo Richardson: yeah, yeah.

594

:

And they had on when it was still

for kids, they had the Double Dare.

595

:

I think I watched some of those shows

596

:

Katie: I loved Double

597

:

Alonzo Richardson: and they had

kids sit, I don't know when the,

598

:

where, what channel those sitcoms

came on, but I'm remembering like,

599

:

um.

600

:

Katie: like, Hey

601

:

Alonzo Richardson: Uh,

602

:

Katie: And stuff like that.

603

:

Alonzo Richardson: that, and, well,

I don't know, I'm probably mixing

604

:

it up with stuff that was on Disney,

but there's a show called all that.

605

:

and I think that may have been

on Nickelodeon or maybe it was

606

:

on one of the other kid shows.

607

:

There was some or kid channels, but there

were so many kids channels to choose from.

608

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

609

:

Alonzo Richardson: it

was, it was all over.

610

:

There was they had I think Fox

had a kids channel or maybe

611

:

they didn't have a channel.

612

:

Maybe it's just the Fox Network.

613

:

Katie: Yeah, a little bit later.

614

:

I feel like the early nineties

is when there were, it kind of

615

:

exploded with like kids content on

616

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

617

:

Katie: But, but yeah, Nick at night,

I didn't realize it debuted in 85.

618

:

Alonzo Richardson: I didn't either.

619

:

Katie: All right, do you have

any particular thoughts or fandom

620

:

or anything about John Hughes?

621

:

Alonzo Richardson: Well, the

funny thing about it is that.

622

:

I'm aware of him, but I didn't

watch a lot of his movies that I

623

:

have been a guest on other podcasts

where they talk about John Hughes.

624

:

And when I talk to people about

John Hughes, they have a lot

625

:

of nostalgia for him and they

have a lot of emotion for him.

626

:

But even though I was aware of

these movies, I never actually

627

:

got around to seeing them.

628

:

So a lot of these movies I'm

seeing for the first time,

629

:

especially the ones he directed.

630

:

So the only one that I saw that I, I

know that it's him is Home Alone and the

631

:

sequel, so I'm very familiar with that.

632

:

but well I watched it, but films like,

The Breakfast Club and what was that is

633

:

desperately Seeking Susan, one of them.

634

:

Katie: No,

635

:

Alonzo Richardson:

Something about pink, right?

636

:

Katie: and pink.

637

:

Alonzo Richardson: and pink.

638

:

Yeah.

639

:

Katie: the teen, he was like kind

of known as like the teen King.

640

:

Alonzo Richardson: The teen guy,

641

:

Katie: Yeah.

642

:

Alonzo Richardson: he, I think he did.

643

:

Planes, trains and auto automobiles.

644

:

He did that one.

645

:

And a lot of these movies, like

I had wanted to see, but I just

646

:

never got around to seeing them.

647

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

648

:

Alonzo Richardson: That's well,

I just recognize him as being a,

649

:

a very good storyteller and, and

filmmaker for, for what he does.

650

:

Katie: So this is, this is interesting

that you didn't grow up with them,

651

:

which I guess I don't know where you

grew up, but they are very, there's

652

:

no people of color in his movies.

653

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah, yeah, yeah,

654

:

Katie: So, you know,

655

:

Alonzo Richardson: yeah.

656

:

There's that.

657

:

Katie: There's that.

658

:

So that's a, that's

659

:

Alonzo Richardson: But see there

were, there were a lot of movies like

660

:

that when I was growing up, so it

is like, it's not what you call it.

661

:

Not that it's, it is not like overly

offensive or anything like that.

662

:

Like nowadays something like that would

be questioned, but back then it was

663

:

like, you know, the, the movie of the

day, it's not, it's not a surprise.

664

:

And a lot of times, even when they

did include like a, a person of color,

665

:

like maybe a black person or an Asian

person or anything like that, a lot of

666

:

times these roles would be tokenized.

667

:

So it's almost like it's just better

if they're not in there, but at the

668

:

Katie: percent.

669

:

Alonzo Richardson: Right.

670

:

Katie: that exact thing

happened in 16 Candles.

671

:

Alonzo Richardson: Ah.

672

:

Katie: one Asian character is cartoonish,

673

:

Alonzo Richardson: Right, right, right.

674

:

They're cartoons.

675

:

So sometimes they include, this

especially happens with Asian characters.

676

:

Sometimes they include an Asian

character, but it's actually played

677

:

by a white person in Yellowface.

678

:

And, and it becomes doubly offensive

because then that actor will play all

679

:

the Asian stereotypes and and it would

a lot of times be highly offensive.

680

:

And, and it's a token character.

681

:

So I, I wasn't like, especially

during that time, I wasn't overly

682

:

offended or concerned that, you know?

683

:

you would have a white director doing

a white movie and, and they don't

684

:

think to include other people in, in

their movies other than white people.

685

:

And some of those, some of those

movies are my favorite movies,

686

:

so I'm not overly offended.

687

:

I think the closest that I come to

a John Hughes style movie that I

688

:

watched when that movie came out is

a movie called Better Off Dead With.

689

:

John Cusack.

690

:

Katie: You are right.

691

:

It is very up that, up the same alley.

692

:

And John Cusack was in speaking

of he was in 16 candles.

693

:

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, John Cusack.

694

:

Katie: Yeah.

695

:

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, awesome, awesome.

696

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

697

:

like him.

698

:

Alonzo Richardson: yeah.

699

:

Yeah.

700

:

Katie: Without further ado, let's get

into National Lampoon's European vacation.

701

:

July 26th, 1985.

702

:

Yes.

703

:

That's 40 years ago now, this one.

704

:

PG 13

705

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yes.

706

:

Katie: it's the only one of the

original three or four movies

707

:

that is not R, it's PG 13.

708

:

Alonzo Richardson: Oh,

I didn't realize that.

709

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

710

:

Alonzo Richardson: This is

actually the only National

711

:

Lampoon movie I've ever seen.

712

:

Katie: Oh, really?

713

:

Alonzo Richardson: as a matter of fact,

when it came out, I didn't realize

714

:

that there was like a, a National

Lampoon one was a Christmas thing,

715

:

Katie: yep.

716

:

You've not

717

:

Alonzo Richardson: The one

718

:

Katie: vacation?

719

:

Alonzo Richardson: Christmas vacation?

720

:

I, maybe I did know about it 'cause

I'm re remembering The poster.

721

:

Was there another one?

722

:

Katie: The original one that came

out in:

723

:

Alonzo Richardson: Okay.

724

:

That's the one I didn't know about.

725

:

Katie: they like road trip

726

:

Alonzo Richardson: Right, right, right.

727

:

I didn't know about vacation.

728

:

I saw National Lampoon a European

vacation and I knew about Christmas

729

:

vacation, but I never watched it.

730

:

Katie: I think you'd like it

if you like European vacation.

731

:

I think you'd like Christmas.

732

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

733

:

It, it looks like it

might be a lot of fun.

734

:

Katie: And the first one.

735

:

Yeah, you

736

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

737

:

Katie: watch it.

738

:

Alonzo Richardson: Right,

739

:

Katie: partially because European

vacation, I'm not saying I feel this way,

740

:

but critically review wise and partially,

I think, 'cause it's PG 13, a lot of

741

:

people don't think that European vacation

is as good as Christmas or original.

742

:

Alonzo Richardson: right.

743

:

Katie: I had a lot of fun

revisiting it last night.

744

:

I think I'd seen it, but

I haven't seen it a lot.

745

:

Like I feel like I've seen it like once

before and then I revisited it last

746

:

night and I had a lot of fun watching it.

747

:

So it's

748

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah,

749

:

Katie: on IMDB.

750

:

So you've seen this movie before many

times or just like once or twice.

751

:

Alonzo Richardson: probably a, a few

times, probably three or four times,

752

:

especially when it was on HBO, we, I

would look at the channel guide and

753

:

I would like, Ooh, you know, European

vacation's on, lemme go watch that.

754

:

Right?

755

:

So, so I watched it several times

but I hadn't seen it since I, you

756

:

know, back since the eighties.

757

:

I hadn't seen it.

758

:

Katie: Okay.

759

:

Alonzo Richardson: I, I

always liked that movie.

760

:

It was, it was a very fun movie for

me growing up, and I was kind of

761

:

worried about it when this rewatch,

I just rewatched it a couple hours

762

:

ago and I was worried because it's

like, is there anything in there

763

:

that, that could be problematic?

764

:

Because some of these older movies,

some of the, the sensibilities are

765

:

def definitely different, right?

766

:

It was like,

767

:

Katie: Oh

768

:

Alonzo Richardson: One

of the movies I think.

769

:

about all the time is a movie called

Revenge of the Nerds, and, and

770

:

that's got some problems in there.

771

:

Katie: offenders, I

772

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

773

:

Yeah.

774

:

Another one that I like is Once Bitten.

775

:

That's one of Jim Carrey's first movies.

776

:

And,

777

:

Katie: if I've seen that.

778

:

Alonzo Richardson: I, you

would probably like it.

779

:

I mean, they had they, they had some bad

jokes about gay people, but about, but

780

:

besides that joke, it's a great movie,

781

:

Katie: Okay.

782

:

Yeah.

783

:

I mean, I'm usually pretty

good about being able to kind

784

:

of be in the time and place,

785

:

Alonzo Richardson: right?

786

:

Katie: it's just like you hear things like

that you haven't heard in a long time.

787

:

Like the F word,

788

:

not fuck, but the other F word.

789

:

And

790

:

Alonzo Richardson: right,

right, right, right,

791

:

Katie: Throw that word

792

:

Yeah.

793

:

yeah.

794

:

So now Harold Ramis directed the

original:

795

:

He declined to return as the director

for this, for the sequel because

796

:

he was busy doing Ghostbusters.

797

:

Alonzo Richardson: That one makes sense.

798

:

Katie: Yeah.

799

:

So Amy Heckerling was the director here.

800

:

Do you know her from anything?

801

:

Does that name ring a bell though?

802

:

Alonzo Richardson: That name sounds

familiar, but I don't know why.

803

:

Katie: It's probably because she

was also responsible for a lot of

804

:

comedy favorites, like Fast Times at

Ridgemont High, Johnny Dangerously.

805

:

Alonzo Richardson: Ah.

806

:

Katie: talking Clueless.

807

:

That's Amy Hecker Lane.

808

:

Alonzo Richardson: Okay.

809

:

I covered Johnny Dangerously, so

that's why the name is familiar

810

:

Katie: Yes.

811

:

Alonzo Richardson: and I've

seen, look who's talking.

812

:

I, that's Johnny Dangerously is so

much of one of my favorite movies.

813

:

Katie: That's Michael Keaton.

814

:

Right.

815

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

816

:

It's Michael Keaton and I

forgot the, the Female Lead.

817

:

But it had a lot of

great bits in that movie.

818

:

It's like one of the

best comedies out there.

819

:

Probably an underrated gym.

820

:

Katie: You know, I don't

think I've seen it,

821

:

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, you

gotta, you gotta watch it.

822

:

Katie: feel like I, I do, I do.

823

:

I like Michael Keaton a lot.

824

:

is it, does he play like a mobster or

825

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

826

:

He, he's gotta, because obviously

Dangerously is not his real name.

827

:

He when he's a gangster, he introduces

his name as Dangerously and she says,

828

:

do you know your last name is an adverb?

829

:

Katie: That's cute.

830

:

Uh

831

:

uh

832

:

Alonzo Richardson: I think

her name is Mary Lou Henner.

833

:

I think that was the female lead.

834

:

Katie: she's not, she was in taxi.

835

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

836

:

Yeah.

837

:

She was in taxi.

838

:

I'm like 50% sure that that's true.

839

:

That, that it was her

840

:

Katie: either way.

841

:

Alonzo Richardson: and Yeah.

842

:

Katie: you know what's interesting

is when I was doing the research for

843

:

European vacation, I learned some things

like te, I don't even know if I should

844

:

technically include it, because did you

know John Hughes only received nominal

845

:

credit for writing and the story?

846

:

Because it was, they used his characters

and some of his ideas from the very

847

:

first vacation film in this one,

but he was not actually directly

848

:

involved with European vacation.

849

:

Alonzo Richardson: And that happens a lot.

850

:

Sometimes we gotta do a little

digging to figure out if they

851

:

actually did some writing it.

852

:

This, I come across this a lot of times

when the, when the writers are credited.

853

:

If it's a book adaptation, then

the author's always credited.

854

:

Or if it's a original story by like

a, a screenwriter, then he'll often

855

:

get credits in the sequels because

he created the characters or whatnot.

856

:

So you almost always have to read into

it with what is he getting credit for?

857

:

Is he getting credit because he wrote

the story, or is he getting credit

858

:

because he made the characters?

859

:

So Yeah.

860

:

I run into that.

861

:

a lot.

862

:

I mean, but still, They start,

they got the ball rolling,

863

:

Katie: They did.

864

:

They did, I guess.

865

:

Yes.

866

:

So the screenplay was written by, almost

entirely by Robert Klain with some

867

:

input from the director, Amy Heckerling.

868

:

But Klain was a, was asked to incorporate

some unused elements from the original

869

:

script the original films script.

870

:

And so therefore, he was credited

or awarded a writing credit by WGA.

871

:

Alonzo Richardson: right?

872

:

Katie: ask, who's this?

873

:

Robert Klein?

874

:

Eh, well, won an Emmy for writing

on the TV series Tracy Takes On,

875

:

which is Tracy Allman's show.

876

:

I never saw that, did you?

877

:

Alonzo Richardson: I only

saw the Tracy Oman show.

878

:

I haven't seen her before since then.

879

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

880

:

He also wrote weekend at Bernie's and

881

:

And a

882

:

Alonzo Richardson: don't know if

I've ever seen that one, but it, I

883

:

know I was around a group of friends

that talked about it all the time.

884

:

It's like I was around people that talked

about a lot of John Hughes films and I, I

885

:

was just a person that hadn't seen them.

886

:

Katie: You're, you're just not along.

887

:

You're like, yeah.

888

:

Mm-hmm.

889

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

890

:

Yeah.

891

:

Katie: Okay.

892

:

So this one, the Griswolds win

a vacation tour across Europe

893

:

where the usual havoc ensues.

894

:

That's the description.

895

:

If you haven't seen it in 40 years,

we of course have Chevy Chase and

896

:

Beverly DeAngelo Reprising in their

roles as Clark and El Ellen Griswold.

897

:

But Zoe, this is gonna be interesting

since you have not seen the first one.

898

:

The kids are different.

899

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah, I heard that

The it's like the kids are different.

900

:

in every movie.

901

:

Katie: They are.

902

:

And then it, it becomes like a, a bit

kind of, because so, the actress who

903

:

plays Audrey Griswold in the first

movie, her name is also Dana, but

904

:

Dana Baron and apparently producer,

Maddie Simmons already told her that

905

:

she would be returning to the role.

906

:

But Anthony Michael Hall, who played Rusty

in the first film could not be in this

907

:

film because he was doing weird science.

908

:

Alonzo Richardson: Hmm.

909

:

Katie: And so Heckerling requested

instead of just replacing one of them to

910

:

replace both kids, so they hired Dana.

911

:

They so poor Dana Baron didn't get

to reprice her role, but they cast a

912

:

different Dana, which is very confusing.

913

:

Dana Hill, she is mostly a

voice actress for cartoons.

914

:

When I looked her up, I didn't, I don't,

did you know her from anything else?

915

:

Alonzo Richardson: No,

916

:

Katie: Did you know the

kid who played Rusty?

917

:

Jason Lively?

918

:

Alonzo Richardson: no, I didn't.

919

:

It looks like he's still acting, but

I didn't do too much research on him.

920

:

Katie: Yeah.

921

:

I, I mean he did.

922

:

I thought he looked familiar, but

I didn't know him from anything.

923

:

And he's not done like a ton of stuff.

924

:

Like he has some credits, a

few horror movies that I was

925

:

unfamiliar with night of the Creeps.

926

:

I haven't seen

927

:

Alonzo Richardson: Nah, nah,

928

:

Katie: then

929

:

Alonzo Richardson: I, I

don't do horror too much.

930

:

Katie: he, yeah, same.

931

:

I couldn't remember if you were,

'cause I have some podcast friends

932

:

that are super into horror.

933

:

I couldn't remember if you

were one of 'em or not.

934

:

Alonzo Richardson: No, no.

935

:

Although I have a friend who's getting

me into horror, so I was convinced to

936

:

watch sleepaway Camp the other day.

937

:

And that is that is a crazy movie.

938

:

Katie: It sounds like you don't recommend.

939

:

Alonzo Richardson: I don't know.

940

:

It was interesting.

941

:

It was crazy.

942

:

And it's interesting 'cause

there, there are a lot of fun

943

:

things that happened in the movie.

944

:

And then it had a bizarre resolution.

945

:

'cause it's, it's more of a suspense

thriller than a straight up horror movie.

946

:

And the other thing is that.

947

:

You know, the, the thing that makes it

charming is that the acting is really bad.

948

:

it is definitely a B movie.

949

:

Katie: But I'm curious to see what

you think about this because something

950

:

came to my mind when I was watching the

dream sequence where that, 'cause when

951

:

they're on the plane, all four family

members have like a dream sequence.

952

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah,

953

:

Katie: So Jason Lively, his dream

sequence, the way his hair is cut combined

954

:

with this white like jumpsuit thing he has

on, I got, it Luke Skywalker or Han Solo?

955

:

Who's which one is

956

:

Alonzo Richardson: I,

957

:

Katie: Harrison Ford, the other one.

958

:

Alonzo Richardson: oh, that Mark Hamill.

959

:

Katie: Yeah.

960

:

I got vibes like from i've never

seen that movie, but like posters,

961

:

like 'cause of his hair, the way

962

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

963

:

Yeah.

964

:

Katie: wear white?

965

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah, Luke Skywalker

wears white, but not white leather.

966

:

Katie: All right.

967

:

So just me.

968

:

I was like, I got Luke Skywalker vibes

969

:

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

970

:

I think?

971

:

Luke Skywalker's I guess because He

is such a different character, I,

972

:

I didn't get Luke Skywalker vibes

because Luke is a little bit older.

973

:

Luke is 19 and this guy's like 16.

974

:

So

975

:

Katie: But

976

:

Alonzo Richardson: I didn't get those.

977

:

No, I didn't, I didn't get it

because everybody had that hairstyle

978

:

Katie: Okay.

979

:

Alonzo Richardson: and eighties.

980

:

So

981

:

Katie: All right.

982

:

Nevermind then.

983

:

Alonzo Richardson: what, what happens is

that the suit throws you off, like they

984

:

both wear white, but Griswold is wearing

this white leather it's almost like a.

985

:

Military style suit a weird

doublet, double-breasted number.

986

:

And Luke wore, it's more like a robe.

987

:

It looks like a bathrobe.

988

:

Katie: Oh, that's

989

:

Alonzo Richardson: So it's

a completely different vibe.

990

:

Katie: right.

991

:

Well, what did you think about

John Aston playing the Pig

992

:

in a Post, which is the game

993

:

Alonzo Richardson: Right, right.

994

:

Uh, That's delighted.

995

:

Uh, Well, I just recently find out that

he is the father of Sean Aston, who

996

:

is from Lord of the Rings played Sam.

997

:

We gai.

998

:

And I was like, I'm, I was

in shock when I found out.

999

:

I only found that out

maybe a few months ago.

:

00:40:36,126 --> 00:40:39,396

So I was newly living with this knowledge.

:

00:40:39,396 --> 00:40:43,926

And then I think when I first saw

the movie, I, I guess I'm not used

:

00:40:43,926 --> 00:40:46,416

to actors taking different roles.

:

00:40:46,416 --> 00:40:49,566

So when I first saw it, I

was like, oh, there's Gomez.

:

00:40:49,566 --> 00:40:50,466

from the Adams family.

:

00:40:51,606 --> 00:40:53,881

Katie: At first I, I got a

little nervous there though.

:

00:40:53,881 --> 00:40:56,131

I was like, does he not

know that it's Gomez Adams?

:

00:40:56,491 --> 00:40:59,041

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah, he's,

he, although I have to say

:

00:40:59,041 --> 00:41:00,421

that he looks really different.

:

00:41:00,761 --> 00:41:02,021

'Cause he's a little bit older.

:

00:41:02,021 --> 00:41:05,651

His hair is, is much different

than when he was Gomez.

:

00:41:06,161 --> 00:41:07,986

And then he, he acts real different.

:

00:41:07,986 --> 00:41:10,356

It's like, this is clearly

a different person.

:

00:41:10,416 --> 00:41:13,386

And he's kind of doing

Richard Dawson in Preston.

:

00:41:13,386 --> 00:41:14,736

I'm pretty sure you remember him.

:

00:41:15,201 --> 00:41:18,381

Katie: I don't, but I

The kissing of the women,

:

00:41:18,486 --> 00:41:19,266

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah, Yeah.

:

00:41:19,296 --> 00:41:21,636

Kissing women was Dawson's thing.

:

00:41:21,636 --> 00:41:25,836

Like he hosted family Refute and

every time he greeted the guests, no.

:

00:41:25,896 --> 00:41:30,456

No matter what these women's looked like,

he kissed the contestants all of the time.

:

00:41:30,546 --> 00:41:33,066

And so Sean Aston takes

:

00:41:33,561 --> 00:41:33,771

Yeah.

:

00:41:33,771 --> 00:41:34,461

on the mouth?

:

00:41:34,501 --> 00:41:38,341

Yeah, but not, not as what you call it.

:

00:41:38,521 --> 00:41:41,521

So what John Aston did, he, he's

Like, really getting into it.

:

00:41:41,521 --> 00:41:45,211

He's like, almost like

with the, with the mother.

:

00:41:45,616 --> 00:41:49,816

He was a little bit more

respectful, but still way more

:

00:41:50,031 --> 00:41:50,191

Katie: much.

:

00:41:50,446 --> 00:41:52,156

Alonzo Richardson: it than

you should be as a host of a

:

00:41:52,156 --> 00:41:53,926

game show kissing a stranger.

:

00:41:53,956 --> 00:41:57,316

And then when He went on to the

daughter, he obviously went overboard.

:

00:41:57,316 --> 00:41:57,826

So I just,

:

00:41:58,261 --> 00:41:59,911

Katie: He was like making out with

:

00:42:00,286 --> 00:42:00,646

Alonzo Richardson: yeah.

:

00:42:00,646 --> 00:42:02,596

He was basically making

out with the daughter.

:

00:42:03,076 --> 00:42:05,236

So I was like oh, this guy is a criminal.

:

00:42:05,236 --> 00:42:06,946

This, this dude belongs in jail.

:

00:42:07,291 --> 00:42:10,021

Katie: And Clark's just like

looking over Hmm, what's, what's

:

00:42:10,036 --> 00:42:13,676

Alonzo Richardson: Especially when you

look at what's going on in today's news

:

00:42:13,976 --> 00:42:19,336

or if you hear about you'll hear about

people who are in children's shows and

:

00:42:19,336 --> 00:42:22,426

you hear about the, the bad behavior

that they were involved in, or you

:

00:42:22,676 --> 00:42:23,096

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:42:23,356 --> 00:42:26,506

Alonzo Richardson: out that you're one of

your favorite authors is, is a monster.

:

00:42:26,746 --> 00:42:31,936

So this is, I feel like John

Aston is playing those guys.

:

00:42:32,851 --> 00:42:33,271

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:42:33,271 --> 00:42:34,111

Yeah, for sure.

:

00:42:35,161 --> 00:42:38,876

the, in a post, it was funny,

they had to work pig costumes.

:

00:42:39,356 --> 00:42:43,256

Guess while we're on the topic I,

what I sort of got the vibe that

:

00:42:43,256 --> 00:42:48,246

they were combining elements of

a number of different game shows.

:

00:42:48,246 --> 00:42:49,506

There were elements of Jeopardy.

:

00:42:49,506 --> 00:42:50,826

There were elements of Yeah.

:

00:42:50,826 --> 00:42:51,846

Family Feud.

:

00:42:52,456 --> 00:42:57,226

Let's make a deal 'cause of the costumes

and even a little price is Right.

:

00:42:57,256 --> 00:42:59,416

It was so, I thought that was really fun.

:

00:42:59,701 --> 00:43:00,121

Alonzo Richardson: right.

:

00:43:00,196 --> 00:43:04,646

Katie: like, let's throw in from

all these like old timey game shows.

:

00:43:04,646 --> 00:43:05,276

I liked it.

:

00:43:05,441 --> 00:43:07,871

Alonzo Richardson: Well, at the

time they weren't old timey.

:

00:43:07,871 --> 00:43:08,621

They were current.

:

00:43:08,621 --> 00:43:08,711

And,

:

00:43:08,966 --> 00:43:09,356

Katie: True.

:

00:43:10,436 --> 00:43:10,706

That's

:

00:43:10,721 --> 00:43:13,661

Alonzo Richardson: and so what happened is

that they combined elements of different

:

00:43:13,661 --> 00:43:17,141

game shows because these were elements

that people familiar, familiar with.

:

00:43:17,561 --> 00:43:21,011

So I think the main element

they used was Family Feud.

:

00:43:21,671 --> 00:43:24,311

And so I got The Family Feud

and the what do you call it?

:

00:43:24,311 --> 00:43:27,871

The, the price is right

and and let's make a deal.

:

00:43:28,366 --> 00:43:28,876

Say again?

:

00:43:29,086 --> 00:43:32,236

Katie: the way the questions were asked

was sort of Jeopardy asked though, right?

:

00:43:32,246 --> 00:43:32,636

You pick a

:

00:43:32,696 --> 00:43:33,596

Alonzo Richardson: No, not really.

:

00:43:33,596 --> 00:43:36,386

'cause you, you didn't have to

answer in the form of a question

:

00:43:36,566 --> 00:43:38,036

they were Jeopardy asking in a way.

:

00:43:38,036 --> 00:43:41,366

That's how advanced they were, right?

:

00:43:41,366 --> 00:43:42,416

Because, yeah.

:

00:43:42,416 --> 00:43:44,066

no, actually, I'm gonna take that back.

:

00:43:44,066 --> 00:43:44,456

You're Right.

:

00:43:44,486 --> 00:43:48,776

They were just, jeopardy asked 'cause like

they were Jeopardy questions on a family

:

00:43:48,776 --> 00:43:54,476

feud style game show because the Jeopardy

questions were 'cause they were advanced.

:

00:43:54,476 --> 00:43:56,486

Like the only difference is that

you didn't have to answer in a

:

00:43:56,486 --> 00:44:00,056

form question, but they were asking

questions like about brain surgery.

:

00:44:00,096 --> 00:44:01,866

They were asking about Lewis and Clark.

:

00:44:01,866 --> 00:44:05,476

What was intriguing about the game

show segment is that None of the

:

00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:09,296

women were listening to their husbands

no, I'm sorry, I got That wrong.

:

00:44:09,296 --> 00:44:11,156

None of the husbands were

listening to their wives.

:

00:44:11,636 --> 00:44:16,236

So for the Grizz walls, they were like

the, the, the whole family was like

:

00:44:16,851 --> 00:44:18,381

We don't, we don't wanna be greedy.

:

00:44:18,381 --> 00:44:19,251

We don't wanna be greedy.

:

00:44:19,251 --> 00:44:19,761

Don't do it.

:

00:44:19,761 --> 00:44:20,121

Don't do it.

:

00:44:20,121 --> 00:44:21,561

And he says, I wanna be a pig.

:

00:44:21,561 --> 00:44:22,131

I wanna be a pig.

:

00:44:22,131 --> 00:44:22,851

I wanna go for it.

:

00:44:22,851 --> 00:44:24,171

So that was Griswolds.

:

00:44:24,171 --> 00:44:28,941

And then the other family, the one the,

the wife kept wanting to ask about, I

:

00:44:28,941 --> 00:44:32,031

forgot this one particular subject and

:

00:44:32,091 --> 00:44:33,261

Katie: cabinet making,

:

00:44:33,591 --> 00:44:34,161

Alonzo Richardson: right, right,

:

00:44:34,611 --> 00:44:35,871

Katie: making or something.

:

00:44:36,141 --> 00:44:37,881

Alonzo Richardson: Because

apparently she knows all about it.

:

00:44:37,881 --> 00:44:39,801

But He chose every other subject.

:

00:44:40,041 --> 00:44:44,811

But what she wanted, and it's, it's

funny how like you just got men who

:

00:44:44,811 --> 00:44:46,491

are totally ignoring their wives.

:

00:44:47,151 --> 00:44:50,581

And the other thing is that so

how the Griswolds accidentally

:

00:44:50,581 --> 00:44:53,761

got the answer right, because she

yelled 'cause the wife yells out.

:

00:44:53,941 --> 00:44:56,881

Clark Aston goes, yeah,

:

00:44:56,881 --> 00:44:59,131

Lewis and Clark, you did it

Clark from Lewis and Clark.

:

00:44:59,131 --> 00:44:59,641

You, you did it.

:

00:44:59,641 --> 00:45:00,631

You answered the question.

:

00:45:01,081 --> 00:45:03,211

And the other family was so mad.

:

00:45:03,211 --> 00:45:03,721

He was like

:

00:45:03,781 --> 00:45:04,141

Katie: that.

:

00:45:04,141 --> 00:45:05,011

They didn't mean it.

:

00:45:05,011 --> 00:45:05,941

That was an accident.

:

00:45:05,941 --> 00:45:06,271

And they're like,

:

00:45:06,271 --> 00:45:07,291

Alonzo Richardson: they didn't know it.

:

00:45:07,291 --> 00:45:08,191

She didn't know.

:

00:45:09,451 --> 00:45:11,011

Katie: That was, that was a funny touch.

:

00:45:11,011 --> 00:45:11,371

I agree.

:

00:45:11,881 --> 00:45:12,451

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

00:45:12,541 --> 00:45:12,781

Yeah.

:

00:45:12,781 --> 00:45:13,561

That was great.

:

00:45:13,621 --> 00:45:14,521

I love that part.

:

00:45:15,421 --> 00:45:15,841

Katie: Closing

:

00:45:15,961 --> 00:45:16,891

Alonzo Richardson: remember that part.

:

00:45:17,371 --> 00:45:18,061

Katie: Closing out.

:

00:45:18,061 --> 00:45:18,991

John Aston.

:

00:45:19,021 --> 00:45:24,481

Did you know that he is not only still

alive, but still working at the age of 95?

:

00:45:25,021 --> 00:45:26,131

Alonzo Richardson: I did not know that.

:

00:45:26,521 --> 00:45:27,541

I did not know.

:

00:45:27,541 --> 00:45:27,781

that.

:

00:45:27,781 --> 00:45:30,361

I thought he surely had

kicked a bucket by now.

:

00:45:30,361 --> 00:45:31,106

What is he on?

:

00:45:31,111 --> 00:45:31,806

Katie: had to look it up.

:

00:45:31,866 --> 00:45:34,891

And he has two like upcoming projects

:

00:45:35,371 --> 00:45:36,211

Alonzo Richardson: Oh my goodness.

:

00:45:36,451 --> 00:45:39,241

Katie: they're in, I guess it said they

were in post-production, but he is 95

:

00:45:39,241 --> 00:45:40,621

and he has two projects coming out.

:

00:45:40,801 --> 00:45:42,481

Alonzo Richardson: That's amazing.

:

00:45:44,281 --> 00:45:46,621

Katie: There's only a few other

people that I wanted to point out,

:

00:45:46,621 --> 00:45:49,611

one of which is Audrey's boyfriend

:

00:45:49,971 --> 00:45:50,361

Alonzo Richardson: Okay.

:

00:45:50,361 --> 00:45:51,111

I know that guy.

:

00:45:51,561 --> 00:45:52,101

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:45:52,551 --> 00:45:55,191

Who's, who's Gizo, what's he known from?

:

00:45:55,611 --> 00:45:57,471

Alonzo Richardson: He's

from the karate kid.

:

00:45:57,861 --> 00:45:58,191

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:45:58,551 --> 00:46:02,321

Alonzo Richardson: So, and he's

from Ko Kai, obviously, but

:

00:46:02,666 --> 00:46:03,156

Katie: William

:

00:46:03,341 --> 00:46:05,621

Alonzo Richardson: realize that he's

been in other movies, like the only

:

00:46:05,621 --> 00:46:08,951

movie I saw him in Karate Hip, but

apparently he's been in at least a

:

00:46:08,951 --> 00:46:10,901

few other movies in that time period.

:

00:46:11,161 --> 00:46:11,441

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:46:11,726 --> 00:46:12,176

Yep.

:

00:46:12,236 --> 00:46:15,026

But he is most known for playing

Johnny in karate Hit and Cobra Kai.

:

00:46:15,056 --> 00:46:15,296

Yeah.

:

00:46:15,581 --> 00:46:15,971

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

00:46:17,246 --> 00:46:22,156

Katie: And then I didn't recognize

this guy, the gag that when

:

00:46:22,156 --> 00:46:25,606

they're in England, they keep

running into people like in cars.

:

00:46:25,606 --> 00:46:25,756

And

:

00:46:25,771 --> 00:46:26,731

Alonzo Richardson: Oh yeah.

:

00:46:26,881 --> 00:46:30,061

That, that one guy that they,

they clipped up when he was on a,

:

00:46:30,061 --> 00:46:30,721

bicycle.

:

00:46:31,036 --> 00:46:34,906

Katie: the bicycle guy and he's

like, in a cast leader, they keep,

:

00:46:34,906 --> 00:46:40,236

so they totally ruin his bicycle

and completely injure this guy.

:

00:46:41,256 --> 00:46:43,956

And that's part of the, I don't know

if it's supposed to be making fun

:

00:46:43,956 --> 00:46:47,766

of trope that the English people

are just like so polite that they

:

00:46:47,841 --> 00:46:49,521

Alonzo Richardson: That

ha That has to be it.

:

00:46:49,551 --> 00:46:52,011

That has to, because

he runs into two cars.

:

00:46:52,011 --> 00:46:52,281

like.

:

00:46:52,371 --> 00:46:56,571

first he runs into one car, then He

runs and he, 'cause he can't get used to

:

00:46:56,571 --> 00:46:58,671

driving on the correct side of the street.

:

00:46:58,851 --> 00:46:58,941

Katie: in

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00:46:59,361 --> 00:47:02,261

Alonzo Richardson: And he, he, and

then that British person is overly

:

00:47:02,261 --> 00:47:05,231

for polite and then he runs into

somebody else, Like, right after.

:

00:47:05,411 --> 00:47:06,971

And that person is overly polite.

:

00:47:07,031 --> 00:47:09,461

He, the second person gave

them the bumper sticker.

:

00:47:09,701 --> 00:47:12,731

No, the bumper from his car

to take home as a souvenir.

:

00:47:12,846 --> 00:47:13,286

Katie: that's right.

:

00:47:13,286 --> 00:47:14,111

I forgot about that.

:

00:47:14,681 --> 00:47:17,481

Alonzo Richardson: And then the third

person is and then he clipped the,

:

00:47:17,601 --> 00:47:21,321

a person on a bicycle, which is the,

the most horrible thing that you could

:

00:47:21,321 --> 00:47:26,376

do is hit somebody on, on a bike or a

pedestrian who's walking and the guy acts.

:

00:47:26,961 --> 00:47:27,531

Katie: injured.

:

00:47:27,741 --> 00:47:29,031

This, this person.

:

00:47:29,046 --> 00:47:29,436

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

00:47:29,436 --> 00:47:29,676

Yeah.

:

00:47:29,676 --> 00:47:31,416

He legitimately injured the person.

:

00:47:31,776 --> 00:47:34,386

The dude, they ask him for directions

and he tries to give him the

:

00:47:34,386 --> 00:47:37,146

directions, And all of a sudden blood

starts squirting out of his arm.

:

00:47:39,441 --> 00:47:42,481

Katie: But that guy the bicycle rider.

:

00:47:43,441 --> 00:47:48,061

He doesn't have a name in this, but

he, for whatever reason, the Griswolds

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00:47:48,061 --> 00:47:53,701

run into him throughout their vacation

and they keep injuring him further.

:

00:47:53,701 --> 00:47:58,261

Like he was in a cast in a,

a, like a revolving door.

:

00:47:58,291 --> 00:48:01,771

And Clark gets him stuck in there

like, oh, how's the holiday?

:

00:48:02,011 --> 00:48:02,971

You know, stuff like that.

:

00:48:03,271 --> 00:48:05,611

So this person's name is Eric Idol.

:

00:48:05,851 --> 00:48:08,581

Because I, people will

probably get to scream at me.

:

00:48:08,581 --> 00:48:13,381

I am not, I feel like I've seen

bits and pieces of Monty Python

:

00:48:13,381 --> 00:48:16,201

movies, but I'm not familiar.

:

00:48:16,381 --> 00:48:19,051

He's a member of the British

Comedy Group, Monty Python.

:

00:48:19,081 --> 00:48:19,261

Did

:

00:48:19,311 --> 00:48:19,906

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, okay.

:

00:48:20,176 --> 00:48:21,076

That wouldn't make sense.

:

00:48:21,076 --> 00:48:21,526

That would, that?

:

00:48:21,526 --> 00:48:24,286

would make sense to why he was

featured throughout the movie.

:

00:48:24,451 --> 00:48:24,931

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:25,486 --> 00:48:27,286

Alonzo Richardson: when I was watching,

when they ran into him the second

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00:48:27,291 --> 00:48:31,426

time, I thought, oh, this guy must be

important because they keep featuring him.

:

00:48:31,426 --> 00:48:32,476

But I didn't know who he was either.

:

00:48:32,476 --> 00:48:33,136

I'm like you.

:

00:48:33,466 --> 00:48:35,716

I've only seen bits and

pieces of Monte Python.

:

00:48:36,046 --> 00:48:39,956

I never watched I don't know

if I ever watched an entire

:

00:48:39,956 --> 00:48:41,186

show from beginning to end.

:

00:48:41,426 --> 00:48:43,946

I would just kind of,

sort of familiar with it.

:

00:48:43,946 --> 00:48:46,166

I'm more of a Benny Hills guy.

:

00:48:46,996 --> 00:48:48,116

Katie: I haven't seen Bunny Hill either.

:

00:48:49,336 --> 00:48:49,836

I'm the worst.

:

00:48:51,521 --> 00:48:52,631

Alonzo Richardson: Don't worry about it.

:

00:48:52,931 --> 00:48:56,081

It'd be something that is if you

wanna watch Benny Hill, you have

:

00:48:56,081 --> 00:49:00,081

to watch public television where

they would play some British shows.

:

00:49:00,081 --> 00:49:03,171

So I watched Benny Hill, I watched Dr.

:

00:49:03,171 --> 00:49:07,161

Who, and maybe there were a couple other

shows that I seen, and then Benny Hill

:

00:49:07,161 --> 00:49:09,981

would come on so late at night that

I couldn't catch like every episode.

:

00:49:10,401 --> 00:49:15,291

But it was one of the, th one of the

things that I, I liked growing up.

:

00:49:15,876 --> 00:49:17,436

Katie: I like British tv.

:

00:49:17,586 --> 00:49:19,686

I guess I didn't when I was younger

:

00:49:19,761 --> 00:49:20,211

Alonzo Richardson: Right.

:

00:49:20,676 --> 00:49:23,556

Katie: it's definitely drier

than my child brain could handle.

:

00:49:23,556 --> 00:49:29,176

Probably the last cast member

I wanted to note is the girl

:

00:49:29,176 --> 00:49:30,916

who plays Rusty's girlfriend.

:

00:49:30,916 --> 00:49:33,496

I think they're in Italy,

but she's from California.

:

00:49:33,526 --> 00:49:34,846

Do you know who I'm talking about?

:

00:49:35,191 --> 00:49:36,001

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, okay.

:

00:49:36,181 --> 00:49:36,421

Yeah.

:

00:49:36,421 --> 00:49:37,141

They were in ili.

:

00:49:37,146 --> 00:49:39,211

I, I don't know who, I know

who you're talking about?

:

00:49:39,211 --> 00:49:39,886

but I don't know that woman.

:

00:49:41,356 --> 00:49:44,236

Katie: Her name is Moon Unit Zappa.

:

00:49:44,386 --> 00:49:44,596

It's

:

00:49:44,686 --> 00:49:46,246

Alonzo Richardson: my God.

:

00:49:46,246 --> 00:49:46,576

Okay.

:

00:49:46,576 --> 00:49:48,706

I know the name is Frank Sh.

:

00:49:48,916 --> 00:49:50,146

Frank Zappa's daughter.

:

00:49:50,626 --> 00:49:54,346

Katie: Yeah, she was, I saw her

when I was in DC actually though

:

00:49:54,396 --> 00:49:55,716

I don't know, a long time ago.

:

00:49:55,961 --> 00:49:56,311

Alonzo Richardson: Right.

:

00:49:56,376 --> 00:49:56,886

Katie: years ago.

:

00:49:56,886 --> 00:50:03,836

I was there for a pit bull awareness

and she was like the mc of it anyway.

:

00:50:03,896 --> 00:50:04,196

Yeah.

:

00:50:04,196 --> 00:50:05,096

Mm-hmm.

:

00:50:05,216 --> 00:50:05,756

Alonzo Richardson: nice.

:

00:50:07,196 --> 00:50:09,291

Yeah, I've known the name,

but it never knew the person.

:

00:50:09,866 --> 00:50:13,166

Katie: Yeah, think she's most

famous, like she's an actress and

:

00:50:13,166 --> 00:50:14,786

stuff and she's been in things.

:

00:50:15,236 --> 00:50:18,506

I think she maybe is friends with the

director 'cause she, I think she's

:

00:50:18,506 --> 00:50:20,786

in some other Amy Heckerling stuff.

:

00:50:21,236 --> 00:50:23,966

But yeah, I, I just know her

as Frank's Sam's daughter.

:

00:50:24,326 --> 00:50:26,906

Now Lindsay Buckingham's Holiday Road.

:

00:50:26,906 --> 00:50:30,056

That's where I wanted to particularly

tell you though, because the Holiday

:

00:50:30,056 --> 00:50:35,586

Road song, that's like, at the beginning,

that is Lindsay Buckingham's song, from

:

00:50:35,636 --> 00:50:36,326

Fleetwood Mac.

:

00:50:37,131 --> 00:50:37,421

Alonzo Richardson: Okay.

:

00:50:37,706 --> 00:50:39,506

I'm not that familiar

with Fleetway, the Mac.

:

00:50:40,286 --> 00:50:41,336

Katie: well, that's who he is.

:

00:50:41,426 --> 00:50:41,786

Um, But

:

00:50:41,816 --> 00:50:42,326

Alonzo Richardson: Okay.

:

00:50:42,896 --> 00:50:43,316

Right,

:

00:50:43,346 --> 00:50:45,386

Katie: First one, so

they continued that here.

:

00:50:45,606 --> 00:50:48,516

The rest of the music

was done by Charles Fox.

:

00:50:49,426 --> 00:50:56,986

He composed theme songs for the Love Boat

and the theme music to ABC's Wild World

:

00:50:56,986 --> 00:51:04,426

of Sports and the original Monday Night

Football, as well as the Grammy winning

:

00:51:04,456 --> 00:51:07,546

hit song, killing me softly with his song

:

00:51:08,086 --> 00:51:09,346

Alonzo Richardson: Oh yeah.

:

00:51:09,586 --> 00:51:11,986

Katie: in collaboration with

Lori Lieberman and Charles

:

00:51:11,986 --> 00:51:13,366

Fox's longtime writing partner.

:

00:51:13,366 --> 00:51:14,476

Norman Gimble.

:

00:51:14,761 --> 00:51:15,181

Alonzo Richardson: Right.

:

00:51:15,406 --> 00:51:15,766

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:51:15,796 --> 00:51:16,396

Other movies.

:

00:51:16,396 --> 00:51:22,666

He scored Barella from:

to five, classic eighties movie.

:

00:51:22,831 --> 00:51:23,251

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

00:51:23,281 --> 00:51:23,701

Yeah.

:

00:51:23,731 --> 00:51:24,091

He,

:

00:51:24,646 --> 00:51:25,186

Katie: maybe.

:

00:51:26,371 --> 00:51:28,251

Alonzo Richardson: he

definitely wrote some bangers.

:

00:51:28,926 --> 00:51:29,616

Katie: Charles Fox.

:

00:51:29,616 --> 00:51:29,946

Yeah.

:

00:51:29,976 --> 00:51:32,016

I've, I've never even heard

of him, but yeah, he did.

:

00:51:32,116 --> 00:51:35,776

So despite Jason Lively not

really having a huge career.

:

00:51:36,571 --> 00:51:39,961

was actually nominated for a

young artist award for this movie.

:

00:51:40,888 --> 00:51:41,433

Alonzo Richardson: He did.

:

00:51:41,698 --> 00:51:46,408

Katie: million budget and

it grossed over $49 million.

:

00:51:46,408 --> 00:51:50,428

So it definitely was a box office

success despite it only getting

:

00:51:51,538 --> 00:51:54,798

kind of so, so, critics reviews?

:

00:51:55,338 --> 00:51:57,848

Alonzo Richardson: I think that a lot

of these middle of the road movies,

:

00:51:57,848 --> 00:52:01,163

they're, they tend to be successful.

:

00:52:01,308 --> 00:52:05,328

That, you know, and having like a, a 6.5,

:

00:52:05,328 --> 00:52:07,158

that's not necessarily bad.

:

00:52:07,448 --> 00:52:07,718

It's a,

:

00:52:09,728 --> 00:52:13,448

Katie: I would say a six

or above is pretty good.

:

00:52:13,508 --> 00:52:13,868

Alonzo Richardson: yeah.

:

00:52:13,898 --> 00:52:14,258

Yeah.

:

00:52:14,258 --> 00:52:14,678

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:52:15,098 --> 00:52:17,138

Alonzo Richardson: Because there

are a lot of movies that are rated

:

00:52:17,138 --> 00:52:22,468

as six on, iMDV that, you know, a

lot of deals are my favorite movies.

:

00:52:22,633 --> 00:52:23,173

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:52:24,853 --> 00:52:29,953

Yeah, I remember covering weird science

and it is not known to be one of John

:

00:52:29,953 --> 00:52:34,623

Hughes Ultimates, but it's one of

my favorites, so it really bugs me

:

00:52:34,623 --> 00:52:36,483

that it doesn't have a higher rating.

:

00:52:36,483 --> 00:52:37,953

I'm like, what's everybody thinking?

:

00:52:37,953 --> 00:52:39,843

It's awesome anyway.

:

00:52:39,853 --> 00:52:41,358

Alonzo Richardson:

Yeah, I love that movie.

:

00:52:41,408 --> 00:52:44,438

Oh yeah, that's another movie

that I saw that I grew up with,

:

00:52:44,438 --> 00:52:45,698

that I watched was that one.

:

00:52:46,068 --> 00:52:49,078

Along with the other movie we

talked about the Christmas movie.

:

00:52:49,528 --> 00:52:51,748

So, yeah, I, I loved weird songs.

:

00:52:51,748 --> 00:52:54,268

I don't think of it as a John

Hughes movie, let's put it that way.

:

00:52:54,328 --> 00:52:57,388

And the only reason he made it was

so that he could make his next movie.

:

00:52:57,388 --> 00:52:58,798

'cause he didn't like that movie either.

:

00:52:59,888 --> 00:53:00,178

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:53:00,343 --> 00:53:03,823

He, because it came out after

the Breakfast Club, but he

:

00:53:03,823 --> 00:53:05,423

wrote the breakfast club first,

:

00:53:05,478 --> 00:53:07,188

Alonzo Richardson: he wanted

to make the Breakfast club.

:

00:53:07,698 --> 00:53:12,258

but he basically had to prove himself

like, you, you do weird science and

:

00:53:12,258 --> 00:53:13,728

we'll give you the Breakfast Club.

:

00:53:13,728 --> 00:53:15,828

So that's basically how that worked out.

:

00:53:16,458 --> 00:53:18,308

And Yeah, I, I loved weird science.

:

00:53:18,308 --> 00:53:19,718

It was, it was pretty cool.

:

00:53:20,133 --> 00:53:21,113

Katie: I'm glad you liked it.

:

00:53:22,203 --> 00:53:25,028

Did you like the opening

the credit sequence with the

:

00:53:25,028 --> 00:53:27,338

passport stamp on European

:

00:53:27,788 --> 00:53:29,468

Alonzo Richardson: That

was very noticeable.

:

00:53:29,468 --> 00:53:33,428

I was, because they don't really do

opening credits like that anymore.

:

00:53:33,698 --> 00:53:36,128

A lot of times what they'll do is

they'll save it for the ending credits.

:

00:53:36,128 --> 00:53:39,518

So the ending credits are usually

really fancy because they really

:

00:53:39,518 --> 00:53:40,658

want to get the story started.

:

00:53:40,658 --> 00:53:44,678

So, most modern movies now, they,

to bring you into the movie,

:

00:53:44,678 --> 00:53:47,118

they'll just a couple of credits.

:

00:53:47,118 --> 00:53:50,088

The star, the director, the producer,

and then you're in the movie.

:

00:53:50,598 --> 00:53:54,608

And then later on when you get to

the ending credits, they're fancy.

:

00:53:54,908 --> 00:54:00,398

But in this movie, or even like most,

a lot of the movies in, in the eighties

:

00:54:00,398 --> 00:54:04,238

when they wanted to do something fancy,

they would do it in the opening credits.

:

00:54:04,238 --> 00:54:06,218

And it was super impressive.

:

00:54:06,218 --> 00:54:06,968

I really liked it.

:

00:54:06,968 --> 00:54:08,258

They, it was so creative.

:

00:54:08,723 --> 00:54:09,833

Katie: I thought so too.

:

00:54:10,643 --> 00:54:11,663

you bring up a good point.

:

00:54:11,663 --> 00:54:13,973

They don't do that very much anymore.

:

00:54:14,303 --> 00:54:19,113

And this movie kind of got a it was

bookended by two awesome things.

:

00:54:19,143 --> 00:54:21,153

'cause I really liked

the closing credits too.

:

00:54:21,883 --> 00:54:24,043

Which was like, if you

remember the song was.

:

00:54:25,093 --> 00:54:28,423

Back in America, like they

come home now back in America.

:

00:54:28,873 --> 00:54:34,213

And then we just see like still photos

of like American landmarks and like

:

00:54:34,243 --> 00:54:40,393

typical scenes and events like baseball

hotdog stands, Mount Rushmore bumper to

:

00:54:40,393 --> 00:54:44,953

bumper traffic, the Alamo, the Hollywood

Sign times Square break dancing, crowded

:

00:54:44,953 --> 00:54:47,743

Beach, Hulk Hogan, like Americana,

:

00:54:47,923 --> 00:54:48,433

Alonzo Richardson: Right.

:

00:54:48,463 --> 00:54:48,793

Katie: don't know.

:

00:54:48,913 --> 00:54:51,943

So this movie, we got bookends,

which I quite enjoyed.

:

00:54:52,693 --> 00:54:56,443

Alonzo Richardson: Well, I admit I didn't

actually stay for the, the ending credit.

:

00:54:56,443 --> 00:54:58,363

So what happened was, You

know how like, when you're

:

00:54:58,363 --> 00:55:00,223

watching it on streaming it'll.

:

00:55:01,143 --> 00:55:05,343

It'll zoom out and then you see the

the next thing that's gonna play.

:

00:55:05,628 --> 00:55:06,288

Katie: to

:

00:55:06,393 --> 00:55:07,323

Alonzo Richardson: Right, right, right,

:

00:55:07,338 --> 00:55:07,728

Katie: credits.

:

00:55:07,803 --> 00:55:08,523

Alonzo Richardson: right, right,

:

00:55:08,568 --> 00:55:10,938

Katie: Am annoyed by that, you know?

:

00:55:11,328 --> 00:55:11,598

Okay.

:

00:55:11,598 --> 00:55:16,098

Well, I've been conditioned to stay

until the very last minute because

:

00:55:16,098 --> 00:55:18,678

John Hughes a lot of times has.

:

00:55:19,128 --> 00:55:22,158

Post credit scenes,

like in Ferris Bueller.

:

00:55:22,438 --> 00:55:24,508

Alonzo Richardson: I've been

conditioned by superhero movies.

:

00:55:26,723 --> 00:55:29,753

Katie: So now you know John

Hughes tends to do that too.

:

00:55:30,773 --> 00:55:31,253

Okay.

:

00:55:31,493 --> 00:55:35,633

I feel like there are a few things I'm

gonna say For your benefit, and this is

:

00:55:35,633 --> 00:55:37,913

one of them, you're gonna feel cheated.

:

00:55:37,913 --> 00:55:45,113

I have a feeling as a man because in

the first vacation movie it is rated

:

00:55:45,113 --> 00:55:51,593

R, we get a shower scene of Beverly

DeAngelo, just like this movie also has

:

00:55:51,593 --> 00:55:56,933

another Beverly DeAngelo shower scene,

there were boobs in the first one.

:

00:55:57,053 --> 00:55:58,223

She showed her boobs.

:

00:55:58,283 --> 00:55:59,603

This one she doesn't.

:

00:55:59,633 --> 00:56:00,503

Do you feel cheated

:

00:56:01,073 --> 00:56:03,083

Alonzo Richardson: No, I can

always go back and watch.

:

00:56:04,913 --> 00:56:06,953

You know, that's another

interesting thing is that.

:

00:56:08,078 --> 00:56:12,278

The studios really felt that they need

to get audiences into the theater.

:

00:56:12,278 --> 00:56:14,708

So back then it was the boobs?

:

00:56:14,708 --> 00:56:17,288

They were like, we gotta have a boob shot.

:

00:56:17,288 --> 00:56:21,518

And and there was a lot of I

almost felt unnecessary nudity.

:

00:56:21,998 --> 00:56:26,688

And even in this one when you had the,

a girl took our top off and that was

:

00:56:26,688 --> 00:56:29,208

the, the, the nude scene in this movie.

:

00:56:29,748 --> 00:56:29,988

Yeah.

:

00:56:29,988 --> 00:56:34,928

The German girl, and and it worked

because I, I think I remember I would

:

00:56:34,928 --> 00:56:37,958

wait for the scene, like I watched

the whole movie, but this is the

:

00:56:37,958 --> 00:56:39,368

scene that I'm looking forward to.

:

00:56:39,423 --> 00:56:43,358

When, when I was watching it,

when I was what, 16 or 17 years?

:

00:56:43,768 --> 00:56:44,108

Katie: of course.

:

00:56:44,388 --> 00:56:47,068

'cause she was playing like

a 16-year-old too, like she

:

00:56:47,078 --> 00:56:47,588

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

00:56:47,948 --> 00:56:48,198

And, and

:

00:56:48,368 --> 00:56:48,788

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

00:56:49,178 --> 00:56:51,968

Alonzo Richardson: watching it now, I

could tell it was an adult, but like when

:

00:56:51,968 --> 00:56:56,738

I was growing up, it looked like it could

be a kid, but, they had to use an adult.

:

00:56:56,738 --> 00:56:57,038

So.

:

00:56:59,896 --> 00:57:00,886

Katie: PG 13, so.

:

00:57:01,786 --> 00:57:06,466

Also, I guess the first

one has a ton of f words.

:

00:57:06,986 --> 00:57:09,806

Clark gets really pissy about

something and he like, he's

:

00:57:09,806 --> 00:57:11,036

like, fucky, fuck, fuck, fuck.

:

00:57:11,036 --> 00:57:11,456

You know?

:

00:57:11,931 --> 00:57:15,631

And then Beverly DeAngelo

twice has a topless

:

00:57:16,066 --> 00:57:16,456

Alonzo Richardson: right,

:

00:57:16,561 --> 00:57:17,281

Katie: in the first one.

:

00:57:17,281 --> 00:57:23,041

But this one she's in a towel and she

does a little burlesque show for Clark.

:

00:57:23,111 --> 00:57:26,681

Like reminiscent of something she did

in college as he's videotaping her

:

00:57:27,551 --> 00:57:29,501

and so that's what we get this time.

:

00:57:29,801 --> 00:57:32,741

But you know what I noticed while

she was doing her burlesque show?

:

00:57:33,191 --> 00:57:35,891

'cause they're in their bathroom,

their very:

:

00:57:36,206 --> 00:57:36,716

Alonzo Richardson: right.

:

00:57:37,481 --> 00:57:38,441

Katie: You know what I noticed?

:

00:57:38,556 --> 00:57:39,636

Alonzo Richardson: Pink toilet paper,

:

00:57:41,181 --> 00:57:42,081

Katie: How did you know?

:

00:57:42,396 --> 00:57:43,866

Alonzo Richardson:

because I noticed it too.

:

00:57:45,111 --> 00:57:45,381

Katie: Do you

:

00:57:45,471 --> 00:57:45,831

Alonzo Richardson: I looked.

:

00:57:45,981 --> 00:57:49,851

Katie: completely forgot about

the time when you could buy pink,

:

00:57:49,881 --> 00:57:52,011

blue, green, and maybe even yellow.

:

00:57:52,761 --> 00:57:54,981

Like toilet paper and Kleenex.

:

00:57:55,926 --> 00:57:56,166

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

00:57:56,166 --> 00:57:57,366

I looked at that, I was

like, oh, they don't.

:

00:57:57,366 --> 00:57:58,086

do that anymore.

:

00:57:58,521 --> 00:57:59,301

Katie: they don't.

:

00:57:59,361 --> 00:58:00,891

I totally forgot about that.

:

00:58:01,266 --> 00:58:03,296

Alonzo Richardson: yeah, they,

they used to do I don't, I don't

:

00:58:03,296 --> 00:58:04,916

think they even do designs anymore.

:

00:58:04,946 --> 00:58:08,366

They used to do either designs,

like color designs on their toilet

:

00:58:08,366 --> 00:58:10,406

paper or they would be weird colors.

:

00:58:10,886 --> 00:58:13,736

But people, there are some people

that's like allergic to that.

:

00:58:13,736 --> 00:58:16,286

At least they're sensitive to that.

:

00:58:16,511 --> 00:58:17,531

Katie: dye in it, I

:

00:58:17,576 --> 00:58:18,146

Alonzo Richardson: Right, right.

:

00:58:18,146 --> 00:58:18,746

They're sensitive.

:

00:58:19,196 --> 00:58:19,406

Yeah.

:

00:58:19,406 --> 00:58:20,786

they're sensitive to that dye.

:

00:58:20,816 --> 00:58:25,036

So I, maybe they the toilet paper

companies got too many complaints

:

00:58:25,366 --> 00:58:31,726

and stopped making them, but Yeah,

I, I, when I saw that, that was

:

00:58:31,726 --> 00:58:35,296

definitely an eye-opening thing

that happened in that scene.

:

00:58:35,688 --> 00:58:36,408

Katie: Oddly enough.

:

00:58:36,408 --> 00:58:37,818

That's what I noticed in that scene.

:

00:58:38,298 --> 00:58:41,388

And she's being very wasteful

with the toilet paper, you know?

:

00:58:41,733 --> 00:58:42,123

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

00:58:42,183 --> 00:58:42,573

Yeah.

:

00:58:42,643 --> 00:58:44,323

That, that's part of the her act though.

:

00:58:44,323 --> 00:58:45,673

She, she had to incorporate It

:

00:58:46,573 --> 00:58:49,553

Katie: It was I had a question for you.

:

00:58:49,583 --> 00:58:55,313

When they're on the plane going to

Europe rusty is shown wearing what

:

00:58:55,313 --> 00:58:57,633

I thought looked like a stethoscope.

:

00:58:59,223 --> 00:59:00,393

What was that?

:

00:59:01,593 --> 00:59:02,678

Alonzo Richardson: Those

weren't his headphones.

:

00:59:03,333 --> 00:59:06,123

Katie: At first, that's what I thought

they were too, but he takes the

:

00:59:06,123 --> 00:59:11,043

stethoscope thing off and puts on his

Walkman headphones at a, at some point.

:

00:59:11,173 --> 00:59:14,233

Alonzo Richardson: They might

be the the planes version of

:

00:59:14,503 --> 00:59:17,713

headphones or listening apparatus.

:

00:59:18,013 --> 00:59:18,763

That's what I'm thinking.

:

00:59:19,558 --> 00:59:23,428

The plane still had I think they had

radio stations or something on the plane.

:

00:59:23,478 --> 00:59:28,068

Wiley wasn't paying that much attention

to I I, so I don't remember seeing that.

:

00:59:28,068 --> 00:59:30,198

But that's the only thing I

could think of that it could be.

:

00:59:30,918 --> 00:59:33,648

is that he was probably listening

to something that they was playing

:

00:59:33,978 --> 00:59:35,868

through the plane's audio system.

:

00:59:36,213 --> 00:59:39,363

Katie: I never, I didn't fly until

the nineties, so I, I was never

:

00:59:39,363 --> 00:59:42,813

on a plane in the eighties and I

literally thought it was like a

:

00:59:42,813 --> 00:59:43,953

stethoscope is what it looked like.

:

00:59:43,953 --> 00:59:45,993

So listeners let me know

what the heck that thing was.

:

00:59:46,458 --> 00:59:46,698

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

00:59:46,698 --> 00:59:50,088

that, that's what I'm thinking because

you couldn't, you couldn't bring your own

:

00:59:50,478 --> 00:59:52,758

headphones and plug it into the plane.

:

00:59:52,758 --> 00:59:57,638

Jack, the plane had it, it's a proprietary

connection, so you had to use the

:

00:59:57,638 --> 01:00:01,568

plane's headphones in order to listen

to anything that's coming in through

:

01:00:01,568 --> 01:00:02,918

the Plane's entertainment system.

:

01:00:03,308 --> 01:00:06,728

But then he used his own headphones

to listen to his own music.

:

01:00:07,058 --> 01:00:07,838

And So

:

01:00:08,168 --> 01:00:09,568

that was that's why he.

:

01:00:10,528 --> 01:00:13,738

Took the Steth stethoscope thing

off and put his own headphones in

:

01:00:13,948 --> 01:00:15,458

so he could listen to his Walkman.

:

01:00:15,458 --> 01:00:16,298

or whatever it was.

:

01:00:16,328 --> 01:00:17,588

And the other thing is that

:

01:00:17,783 --> 01:00:18,323

Katie: Walkman.

:

01:00:18,728 --> 01:00:23,078

Alonzo Richardson: I don't know if,

Oh, I remember now, like nowadays,

:

01:00:23,558 --> 01:00:24,758

he may have been looking at a movie.

:

01:00:24,788 --> 01:00:30,758

'cause nowadays e each passenger

have their own screen, so there's

:

01:00:30,758 --> 01:00:34,118

a screen in the back of the seat

so you can watch your own movie.

:

01:00:34,793 --> 01:00:34,943

Katie: the

:

01:00:35,038 --> 01:00:37,678

Alonzo Richardson: In the old

days, everybody watched the same

:

01:00:37,678 --> 01:00:40,738

movie and so the movie was playing

at The front of the, plane.

:

01:00:41,023 --> 01:00:42,223

Katie: right.

:

01:00:42,268 --> 01:00:43,768

Alonzo Richardson: may

have been watching a movie.

:

01:00:44,023 --> 01:00:44,653

Katie: You're right.

:

01:00:44,653 --> 01:00:45,673

I bet you're right.

:

01:00:45,703 --> 01:00:45,883

Yeah.

:

01:00:45,883 --> 01:00:49,543

There was like a screen at the

front of the, I don't know,

:

01:00:49,588 --> 01:00:50,278

Alonzo Richardson: the cabin.

:

01:00:50,293 --> 01:00:50,653

Katie: or something.

:

01:00:50,653 --> 01:00:50,953

Yeah.

:

01:00:50,968 --> 01:00:51,418

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:00:51,523 --> 01:00:52,273

Katie: interesting.

:

01:00:52,273 --> 01:00:53,323

Yeah, you're probably right.

:

01:00:54,143 --> 01:00:59,003

I very much took note of Audrey's

dream sequence in particular because

:

01:00:59,113 --> 01:01:04,813

her boyfriend says what did, what

a what a lovely boyfriend, he says

:

01:01:04,813 --> 01:01:08,153

before they leave, because she says,

oh, I'm, I don't wanna go to Europe.

:

01:01:08,153 --> 01:01:10,313

They, all they have is

fattening food there.

:

01:01:10,523 --> 01:01:13,073

And her boyfriend's like,

yeah, Audre eats too much.

:

01:01:13,073 --> 01:01:14,303

And I like her thin.

:

01:01:14,483 --> 01:01:15,653

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:01:15,803 --> 01:01:19,633

Katie: her dream is about

excessively, like insanely eating

:

01:01:19,633 --> 01:01:21,613

all this food and like blowing up,

:

01:01:21,793 --> 01:01:22,213

Alonzo Richardson: Right.

:

01:01:22,453 --> 01:01:27,233

I mean, not just that, but she's being

served by this, these proper British wait

:

01:01:27,233 --> 01:01:30,833

staff, and they keep bringing her plate,

and she doesn't even finish the plate.

:

01:01:31,043 --> 01:01:32,963

She, she eats as much as she can.

:

01:01:32,963 --> 01:01:36,053

Then they'll take that plate away, and

then they'll have, bring in another

:

01:01:36,053 --> 01:01:39,233

plate and she'll eat a, as much as

she can, and then they'll take that

:

01:01:39,233 --> 01:01:44,333

plate away and it's like they, she's

just, compulsively eating, and then

:

01:01:44,843 --> 01:01:47,453

she starts to expand and, and expand.

:

01:01:47,453 --> 01:01:51,023

And it is like, even as her body

is expanding before her, she

:

01:01:51,023 --> 01:01:52,433

continues to stuff her face.

:

01:01:52,433 --> 01:01:54,233

And that, that's a fear that she has.

:

01:01:54,473 --> 01:01:59,573

I mean, I think some of that is, you know,

has something to do with the comments

:

01:01:59,573 --> 01:02:04,283

that her boyfriend makes and she's

obsessed over his, her boyfriend, but

:

01:02:04,283 --> 01:02:09,203

at the same time, she's self-conscious

about eating and her, her body type.

:

01:02:09,713 --> 01:02:14,663

And so that, that is a fear

that she, she can't stop eating.

:

01:02:15,113 --> 01:02:16,373

And so that's that.

:

01:02:16,733 --> 01:02:18,473

I feel like that dream is apropos.

:

01:02:19,178 --> 01:02:20,288

Katie: I feel like I

would have that dream.

:

01:02:20,288 --> 01:02:21,608

I like food so much.

:

01:02:21,708 --> 01:02:25,068

She is obsessed with her boyfriend

because we see the second they

:

01:02:25,068 --> 01:02:29,958

arrive in their London hotel room,

she puts up posters size picture and

:

01:02:29,958 --> 01:02:32,028

all these photos of this boyfriend.

:

01:02:32,193 --> 01:02:32,613

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:02:32,673 --> 01:02:33,003

Yeah.

:

01:02:33,348 --> 01:02:34,698

Katie: size photo of your boyfriend?

:

01:02:35,283 --> 01:02:35,523

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:02:35,523 --> 01:02:37,678

She had so many pictures of her boyfriend.

:

01:02:37,678 --> 01:02:38,278

That's crazy.

:

01:02:41,718 --> 01:02:47,568

Katie: Also, when they first arrive in

London, they're getting out of the cab and

:

01:02:47,628 --> 01:02:51,248

, they're unaware of their surroundings

and they're getting their luggage and

:

01:02:51,248 --> 01:02:57,878

stuff out, and they had like poles of

something they were knocking people over

:

01:02:58,103 --> 01:02:59,213

Alonzo Richardson: Right, right.

:

01:02:59,258 --> 01:02:59,798

Katie: That?

:

01:02:59,993 --> 01:03:00,863

Alonzo Richardson: I couldn't tell you.

:

01:03:00,863 --> 01:03:01,643

I wouldn't know.

:

01:03:01,853 --> 01:03:04,283

It was like, what in the

heck are they taking with.

:

01:03:04,283 --> 01:03:05,963

them when this vacation?

:

01:03:06,338 --> 01:03:07,988

Katie: who brings a guitar on

:

01:03:08,063 --> 01:03:09,143

Alonzo Richardson: Did they have a guitar?

:

01:03:09,488 --> 01:03:10,808

Katie: Yes, there was a guitar.

:

01:03:12,308 --> 01:03:12,998

I'm like, what?

:

01:03:13,003 --> 01:03:13,778

What are you doing?

:

01:03:14,618 --> 01:03:17,408

Alonzo Richardson: Because they did have

a bunch of suitcases that I didn't notice

:

01:03:17,408 --> 01:03:19,358

the shape of the cases all that much.

:

01:03:19,418 --> 01:03:24,308

The thing that I paid attention to was

that they're trying to get out of the cab

:

01:03:24,758 --> 01:03:28,688

and this dude is trying to help them, but

he's getting whacked by all the members

:

01:03:28,688 --> 01:03:31,628

of the family, particularly the father.

:

01:03:31,688 --> 01:03:34,658

He's, he's just whacking this

dude with all of these suitcases.

:

01:03:36,267 --> 01:03:39,082

Katie: So their accommodations are

a little less than what they thought

:

01:03:39,082 --> 01:03:41,482

they were gonna be, to say the least.

:

01:03:41,962 --> 01:03:45,522

And I was curious if you've ever

stayed in a hotel where you had to

:

01:03:45,522 --> 01:03:49,182

share a bathroom with other guests.

:

01:03:49,407 --> 01:03:50,187

Alonzo Richardson: thankfully not.

:

01:03:50,367 --> 01:03:53,247

I feel like that's more

of a hostile than a hotel.

:

01:03:55,917 --> 01:03:59,817

But no, it, that's, that's definitely

not fair because in a hostile, you're

:

01:03:59,817 --> 01:04:01,527

actually sharing an entire room

:

01:04:01,677 --> 01:04:01,827

Katie: like

:

01:04:02,097 --> 01:04:03,207

Alonzo Richardson: a

bunch of other people.

:

01:04:03,537 --> 01:04:08,067

So it's not fair, but it's too

hostile ish if I gotta share a

:

01:04:08,067 --> 01:04:10,677

bathroom with everybody on that floor.

:

01:04:11,147 --> 01:04:12,527

And then they didn't lock the door.

:

01:04:12,527 --> 01:04:14,357

That was the shocking part.

:

01:04:14,477 --> 01:04:18,887

I mean, I could see them sharing the

bathroom with everybody on the floor, but

:

01:04:18,887 --> 01:04:23,327

why would you have a tub where it takes

time to wash yourself in a tub, right.

:

01:04:23,327 --> 01:04:24,737

Instead of just a shower.

:

01:04:24,737 --> 01:04:27,617

You would think that if you had a bathroom

that you had to share with the whole

:

01:04:27,617 --> 01:04:31,727

floor, you would have a shower instead

of a tub, and then you would have at

:

01:04:31,727 --> 01:04:34,787

least a couple of showers, not just

that one little bathroom, but I guess

:

01:04:34,997 --> 01:04:36,346

That's how they make 'em over there.

:

01:04:36,437 --> 01:04:38,387

And then they didn't.

:

01:04:38,457 --> 01:04:39,407

Katie: how hotels are there.

:

01:04:39,452 --> 01:04:39,932

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:04:39,932 --> 01:04:40,352

And then,

:

01:04:40,367 --> 01:04:40,517

Katie: don't

:

01:04:40,652 --> 01:04:41,312

Alonzo Richardson: then they didn't.

:

01:04:41,417 --> 01:04:42,287

Katie: like that floor or

:

01:04:42,482 --> 01:04:43,952

Alonzo Richardson: And then

she didn't lock the door.

:

01:04:43,952 --> 01:04:47,732

So that was you kind of, you

kind of asking to be disturbed

:

01:04:47,732 --> 01:04:48,812

if you don't lock the door,

:

01:04:49,757 --> 01:04:53,987

Katie: They both, and apparently

the, the room doors apparently

:

01:04:53,987 --> 01:04:55,096

didn't have numbers on them.

:

01:04:55,096 --> 01:05:01,727

So both spouses mistakenly get

involved with someone else, which is,

:

01:05:01,757 --> 01:05:03,527

you know, made to play for hilarity.

:

01:05:03,527 --> 01:05:04,487

You see it coming,

:

01:05:04,772 --> 01:05:05,252

Alonzo Richardson: right?

:

01:05:05,777 --> 01:05:10,217

Katie: I couldn't get over what kind

of a sociopath Ellen is for taking

:

01:05:10,217 --> 01:05:13,937

a bubble bath in a public bathroom.

:

01:05:14,492 --> 01:05:14,762

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:05:14,762 --> 01:05:14,772

Yeah.

:

01:05:15,587 --> 01:05:17,057

Katie: what are you doing, Ellen?

:

01:05:17,087 --> 01:05:24,677

How could you possibly relax, let alone

this is not cl a nice hotel, clearly.

:

01:05:24,677 --> 01:05:25,872

Like it can't, Ugh, ugh.

:

01:05:26,537 --> 01:05:27,467

No,

:

01:05:28,471 --> 01:05:30,512

Alonzo Richardson: I wouldn't, I

wouldn't say that she's a social class.

:

01:05:30,512 --> 01:05:34,442

I would say that she's clueless,

like she's kind of clueless, right?

:

01:05:34,442 --> 01:05:35,221

So she's not really.

:

01:05:35,327 --> 01:05:36,527

Katie: monster though.

:

01:05:36,647 --> 01:05:37,412

Who does that?

:

01:05:38,087 --> 01:05:39,797

Alonzo Richardson: She's

she's ditzy about it.

:

01:05:40,017 --> 01:05:46,087

But what what was funnier was when Clark

Li Clark had went into the wrong room

:

01:05:46,177 --> 01:05:49,777

and he, it's weird that he would think

he would go into the room and think

:

01:05:49,777 --> 01:05:54,547

that the woman in the room is his wife

when he just left her in the bathroom.

:

01:05:54,742 --> 01:05:55,912

Katie: Good point.

:

01:05:55,942 --> 01:05:56,122

He

:

01:05:56,167 --> 01:05:57,337

Alonzo Richardson: that's kind of weird.

:

01:05:57,382 --> 01:05:57,622

Katie: That's

:

01:05:57,727 --> 01:06:00,427

Alonzo Richardson: Like, Did

you, how did you miss your wife?

:

01:06:00,427 --> 01:06:04,087

It was like, I could see it taking

you a long time to find your room, but

:

01:06:04,087 --> 01:06:08,137

I, I can't see you missing your wife

coming out of the bathroom and walking

:

01:06:08,137 --> 01:06:10,027

down the hallway to get into the room.

:

01:06:10,057 --> 01:06:11,707

But somehow he does that.

:

01:06:12,037 --> 01:06:15,157

He, he goes in, he, yeah, he thinks that,

:

01:06:15,202 --> 01:06:15,832

Katie: a mistake.

:

01:06:15,846 --> 01:06:18,096

Alonzo Richardson: know what's funny

is that I almost thought that when he

:

01:06:18,096 --> 01:06:20,227

got into the bed that it was a man.

:

01:06:20,257 --> 01:06:22,357

I think I thought that that

was gonna be the reveal.

:

01:06:22,642 --> 01:06:23,182

Katie: Me too.

:

01:06:24,846 --> 01:06:25,747

Alonzo Richardson: That

would've been funny.

:

01:06:25,747 --> 01:06:29,047

But as it turned out, it was a woman

and she didn't wanna let him go.

:

01:06:29,317 --> 01:06:30,127

And that was funny.

:

01:06:30,682 --> 01:06:31,162

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:06:31,252 --> 01:06:34,522

Did she even start like

touching him down there?

:

01:06:34,522 --> 01:06:34,971

'cause he was like,

:

01:06:35,087 --> 01:06:35,932

Alonzo Richardson: Well, she,

:

01:06:36,022 --> 01:06:36,322

Katie: like.

:

01:06:36,592 --> 01:06:40,282

Alonzo Richardson: locked his legs with

her legs because he's like, could you,

:

01:06:40,282 --> 01:06:41,752

could you unlock your legs from mine?

:

01:06:42,172 --> 01:06:43,132

And she's like, no.

:

01:06:43,297 --> 01:06:45,397

Katie: then, I feel like he was

like, no, no, that's not necessary.

:

01:06:45,397 --> 01:06:45,457

Or

:

01:06:45,622 --> 01:06:47,002

I was like, what's she doing?

:

01:06:48,427 --> 01:06:48,667

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:06:48,667 --> 01:06:53,857

She probably started grabbing them and

he is like, could you, could you go?

:

01:06:53,887 --> 01:06:55,477

No, no, no.

:

01:06:57,547 --> 01:06:58,267

That was funny.

:

01:06:58,267 --> 01:06:59,827

That was a laugh out loud moment.

:

01:07:01,292 --> 01:07:04,832

Katie: That's the kind of movie this

slapstick and screwball nature of

:

01:07:04,832 --> 01:07:08,302

it, which I'm not usually into, but

I just let myself go for these kind

:

01:07:08,302 --> 01:07:09,742

of movies and I thought it was fun.

:

01:07:10,057 --> 01:07:10,447

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:07:10,507 --> 01:07:10,837

Yeah,

:

01:07:10,971 --> 01:07:14,721

Katie: like them getting stuck in the

roundabout and I didn't see coming that

:

01:07:14,872 --> 01:07:16,372

you know, you see them keep going around.

:

01:07:16,372 --> 01:07:17,272

Oh, there's Big Ben.

:

01:07:17,272 --> 01:07:18,382

Oh there's Big Ben.

:

01:07:18,427 --> 01:07:18,907

Alonzo Richardson: yeah.

:

01:07:19,132 --> 01:07:20,272

Katie: But then it gets dark

:

01:07:20,737 --> 01:07:21,217

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:07:21,772 --> 01:07:23,272

Katie: in their for hours.

:

01:07:23,717 --> 01:07:25,517

Alonzo Richardson: They were there

in that traffic circle all day.

:

01:07:25,517 --> 01:07:26,867

It's one of my favorite parts.

:

01:07:27,257 --> 01:07:30,137

It's, it Is the part that I

most remember about this movie.

:

01:07:30,687 --> 01:07:33,267

When I think about this movie,

I think about that part because

:

01:07:33,417 --> 01:07:36,627

especially now that they've started

installing traffic circles in

:

01:07:36,627 --> 01:07:39,147

America, I say start installing,

like they haven't been working in it?

:

01:07:39,147 --> 01:07:40,167

for the past 20 years,

:

01:07:40,297 --> 01:07:40,717

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:07:41,382 --> 01:07:42,612

They're more common now

:

01:07:42,897 --> 01:07:43,077

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:07:43,077 --> 01:07:44,307

they're way more common now.

:

01:07:44,307 --> 01:07:48,027

But man, dude, that's my fear

of getting stuck in a circle.

:

01:07:50,502 --> 01:07:52,992

Katie: There's one not far from

my house that I still don't like

:

01:07:53,022 --> 01:07:54,312

'cause it's a double circle.

:

01:07:54,312 --> 01:07:54,492

It's

:

01:07:54,596 --> 01:07:55,017

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:07:55,452 --> 01:07:57,072

Katie: and I'm like,

I dunno how to get to,

:

01:07:57,542 --> 01:07:59,907

Alonzo Richardson: Well, actually to,

to tell you the truth, in Washington

:

01:07:59,907 --> 01:08:02,427

DC they've had traffic circles

since the beginning of the city.

:

01:08:02,427 --> 01:08:06,177

So, you know, I actually, I've actually

been dealing with traffic circles.

:

01:08:06,912 --> 01:08:07,721

My entire life.

:

01:08:07,721 --> 01:08:12,642

But the difference is, is that in DC

it's like they're super complicated.

:

01:08:12,912 --> 01:08:15,072

Like some of the traffic

circles got double lanes.

:

01:08:15,102 --> 01:08:17,261

There are stoplights

within the traffic circle.

:

01:08:17,502 --> 01:08:20,532

There's a lot of times there's

stoplights just to get into the circle.

:

01:08:20,801 --> 01:08:22,992

So there, there weird and complex.

:

01:08:22,992 --> 01:08:27,252

It's not like the purpose of like most

European traffic circles is that there is

:

01:08:27,252 --> 01:08:32,412

no lights that you merge into the traffic

circle and then you go around to the, the

:

01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,482

street that you need and you merge out.

:

01:08:34,532 --> 01:08:39,381

But so there, it's weird to have

traffic lights in a, in a traffic

:

01:08:39,381 --> 01:08:41,122

circle, but that's how they do it.

:

01:08:41,572 --> 01:08:42,381

in dc

:

01:08:43,187 --> 01:08:44,596

Katie: Nobody would let Clark merge.

:

01:08:44,596 --> 01:08:44,657

He

:

01:08:44,702 --> 01:08:45,091

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:08:45,122 --> 01:08:45,362

Yeah.

:

01:08:45,362 --> 01:08:46,442

Nobody would let 'em merge.

:

01:08:46,997 --> 01:08:47,327

Katie: yeah.

:

01:08:48,267 --> 01:08:52,256

I did see the Stonehenge thing

coming though, because at first I

:

01:08:52,256 --> 01:08:58,977

was like, wow, he's, they're parked

immediately next to Stonehenge

:

01:09:01,167 --> 01:09:06,327

and then we've seen Clark be a terrible

driver throughout their London vacay.

:

01:09:06,716 --> 01:09:09,607

And then you know, Stonehenge

topples like dominoes.

:

01:09:09,867 --> 01:09:11,532

Alonzo Richardson: right,

somebody thought it was funny.

:

01:09:12,612 --> 01:09:17,622

I think that the thing that makes it funny

is when he says, yep, it's been here for

:

01:09:17,622 --> 01:09:20,082

:

:

01:09:20,112 --> 01:09:23,532

We were here to experience and it'll

be here for the next generation.

:

01:09:23,532 --> 01:09:26,922

And then he backs into it, and then

drives all completely oblivious

:

01:09:26,922 --> 01:09:29,022

that he knocked over Stonehenge.

:

01:09:29,412 --> 01:09:33,372

But not that I believe that a, a

car, like a:

:

01:09:33,372 --> 01:09:36,042

knock over like a 4,000 pound stone.

:

01:09:36,042 --> 01:09:39,221

I don't know how heavy those stones

were, but I don't think that that car

:

01:09:39,881 --> 01:09:44,832

had enough momentum or weight to be

able to knock over all of Stonehedge.

:

01:09:44,832 --> 01:09:49,332

It takes a certain amount of suspension,

of disbelief to laugh at that.

:

01:09:49,542 --> 01:09:53,461

Katie: well be, yeah, it's for, I mean,

a hundred percent because only so much

:

01:09:53,461 --> 01:09:55,282

of it is protruding from the ground.

:

01:09:55,472 --> 01:09:59,772

It wouldn't actually topple

anyway, but it's national lampoons,

:

01:10:00,197 --> 01:10:00,407

so.

:

01:10:00,407 --> 01:10:02,297

that was London, Paris.

:

01:10:02,877 --> 01:10:05,457

Did you enjoy the French tropes?

:

01:10:05,877 --> 01:10:06,087

The,

:

01:10:06,317 --> 01:10:09,452

Alonzo Richardson: The, the funny

thing is how rude that the natives

:

01:10:09,452 --> 01:10:14,942

were to the, their visitors and how

they were cursing at the Griswolds

:

01:10:14,942 --> 01:10:17,462

in, in French, so that was funny.

:

01:10:19,487 --> 01:10:23,207

Katie: really uppity, the waiter

and then the microwave food?

:

01:10:23,642 --> 01:10:24,482

Alonzo Richardson: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

01:10:24,482 --> 01:10:28,102

They, they were just the food wasn't

as fancy as they were led to believe,

:

01:10:28,372 --> 01:10:31,252

but everything was like fancier.

:

01:10:31,312 --> 01:10:34,372

Like they, when, when they got to

France, they had a fancier hotel,

:

01:10:34,672 --> 01:10:36,347

a proper hotel I would call it.

:

01:10:37,297 --> 01:10:37,897

Katie: Yes.

:

01:10:38,377 --> 01:10:38,887

Yes.

:

01:10:39,442 --> 01:10:41,632

Alonzo Richardson: And was it,

was it France where they stole

:

01:10:41,662 --> 01:10:43,702

their video camera got stolen.

:

01:10:43,927 --> 01:10:44,467

Katie: Yes.

:

01:10:44,722 --> 01:10:44,992

Alonzo Richardson: Oh my.

:

01:10:45,067 --> 01:10:48,757

Katie: it's all these tropes,

like the French people are rude,

:

01:10:48,757 --> 01:10:50,847

they're uppity, steal your shit.

:

01:10:50,897 --> 01:10:52,967

Alonzo Richardson: He's

carrying this gigantic camera.

:

01:10:53,027 --> 01:10:54,287

And I was like, oh my God.

:

01:10:54,287 --> 01:10:55,667

That's how we reached the role back then.

:

01:10:56,372 --> 01:10:58,802

Katie: Camcorders we're huge.

:

01:10:58,967 --> 01:10:59,387

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:10:59,387 --> 01:10:59,627

Yeah.

:

01:10:59,632 --> 01:11:04,047

And, and he, he is like by the

time that I got around to if I

:

01:11:04,047 --> 01:11:08,397

wanted to get a camcorder, they,

they were much smaller like before

:

01:11:08,397 --> 01:11:11,007

cell phones, but, and still using,

:

01:11:11,112 --> 01:11:11,262

Katie: of your

:

01:11:11,742 --> 01:11:12,117

Alonzo Richardson: yeah, yeah.

:

01:11:12,352 --> 01:11:12,957

Still, yeah.

:

01:11:12,957 --> 01:11:18,247

You, you still used like a physical

recording medium to record 'em and

:

01:11:18,247 --> 01:11:22,657

say, 'cause they had smaller tapes and

I think what he was using used full

:

01:11:22,657 --> 01:11:24,847

size VHS tapes or something like that.

:

01:11:25,237 --> 01:11:25,457

Katie: Oh,

:

01:11:25,537 --> 01:11:25,777

Alonzo Richardson: But

:

01:11:25,827 --> 01:11:27,537

Katie: You have to rust

it on your shoulder.

:

01:11:27,732 --> 01:11:28,122

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:11:28,152 --> 01:11:28,482

Yeah.

:

01:11:29,382 --> 01:11:32,262

So he had something that

was absolutely gigantic.

:

01:11:34,076 --> 01:11:36,326

it was weird to how he was

using it because he was kind

:

01:11:36,326 --> 01:11:37,496

of using it as a camera.

:

01:11:37,796 --> 01:11:41,666

Like he just wanted to get the

family together just to pose

:

01:11:41,666 --> 01:11:44,336

for a, a, a motion picture.

:

01:11:44,726 --> 01:11:45,956

So that was weird.

:

01:11:47,756 --> 01:11:48,506

Katie: It was weird.

:

01:11:48,506 --> 01:11:49,526

And then we see it coming.

:

01:11:49,526 --> 01:11:51,686

'cause the guy is like, oh

yeah, get in the fountain.

:

01:11:51,686 --> 01:11:52,706

Take your shoes off.

:

01:11:52,706 --> 01:11:53,486

Get in the fountain.

:

01:11:53,486 --> 01:11:53,756

We're like, uhoh.

:

01:11:54,386 --> 01:11:54,926

Alonzo Richardson: Yeah.

:

01:11:54,926 --> 01:11:58,436

That sounds that's a crazy

thing to ask somebody to do.

:

01:11:59,336 --> 01:12:01,646

'cause I would've like

No, no, I'm not, no.

:

01:12:01,646 --> 01:12:02,786

I don't want to be adventurous.

:

01:12:03,116 --> 01:12:05,126

No, I, I vote nay.

:

01:12:06,806 --> 01:12:07,766

Katie: Gimme my camera back.

:

01:12:08,456 --> 01:12:10,766

Now have you been to Paris

:

01:12:11,366 --> 01:12:13,526

Alonzo Richardson: No, I haven't

been to anywhere in Europe.

:

01:12:14,006 --> 01:12:14,246

Katie: in

:

01:12:14,306 --> 01:12:19,786

Alonzo Richardson: stopped at, on, on

my way to being deployed to Iraq and

:

01:12:19,786 --> 01:12:22,516

well, actually was Kuwait and then Iraq.

:

01:12:22,756 --> 01:12:24,346

We stopped at, I wanna say

:

01:12:24,388 --> 01:12:24,958

Alonzo Richardson-2: Dublin,

:

01:12:25,313 --> 01:12:26,243

Katie: Oh, nice.

:

01:12:26,577 --> 01:12:26,998

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:12:27,308 --> 01:12:29,288

But we only got to see the airport.

:

01:12:29,673 --> 01:12:32,823

Katie: Oh yeah, no,

that, that kind of sucks.

:

01:12:32,823 --> 01:12:33,858

But thank you for your service.

:

01:12:34,508 --> 01:12:34,808

Alonzo Richardson-2: yeah.

:

01:12:34,808 --> 01:12:35,348

Thanks.

:

01:12:35,398 --> 01:12:39,118

It was like a 20 minute stopover, so

I, I didn't get to see France, Germany,

:

01:12:39,118 --> 01:12:42,718

or any of the interesting countries.

:

01:12:44,903 --> 01:12:48,293

Katie: I have actually been to all

of these places except Germany,

:

01:12:48,503 --> 01:12:50,543

but it was a very long time ago.

:

01:12:51,023 --> 01:12:56,553

But reason I asked is because well,

a couple things,, nothing is crowded.

:

01:12:56,553 --> 01:12:59,283

They're just able to

pull up to a Stonehenge.

:

01:12:59,313 --> 01:13:00,483

There's no crowds around.

:

01:13:00,973 --> 01:13:06,133

They're about to go to the Louv, which

is like this ginormous museum and they're

:

01:13:06,133 --> 01:13:08,593

like, oh, it closes in 15 minutes.

:

01:13:08,648 --> 01:13:08,938

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:13:08,943 --> 01:13:09,063

Yeah.

:

01:13:09,202 --> 01:13:10,463

Katie: Whatcha you

gonna see the gift shop?

:

01:13:10,463 --> 01:13:10,853

You know,

:

01:13:10,903 --> 01:13:12,898

Alonzo Richardson-2: it's a horrible

way to try to visit a museum.

:

01:13:13,883 --> 01:13:16,343

Katie: And then when they're on

the Eiffel Tower, this is another

:

01:13:16,343 --> 01:13:19,613

thing that I'm gonna have to clue

you in on, because you need this

:

01:13:19,613 --> 01:13:21,383

information from the first movie.

:

01:13:21,893 --> 01:13:24,923

They're on top of the Eiffel Tower, and

there's like hardly any people there,

:

01:13:24,923 --> 01:13:26,573

which is also that's not a thing.

:

01:13:27,202 --> 01:13:28,433

And there's these group of people.

:

01:13:28,433 --> 01:13:31,553

So Rusty's always trying to

get a girl everywhere he goes.

:

01:13:31,873 --> 01:13:35,143

He sees this group of women, and I

don't know if it was like a couple

:

01:13:35,143 --> 01:13:40,783

sisters and their mom, and the

mom is holding a dachshund, right?

:

01:13:41,233 --> 01:13:42,673

And we're sort of like, worried.

:

01:13:42,673 --> 01:13:45,253

We're like, Ooh, I don't know

this, you're holding this dog, like

:

01:13:45,253 --> 01:13:49,063

right by the railing to, you know,

on the top of the Eiffel Tower.

:

01:13:49,333 --> 01:13:54,973

And the reason we're nervous is

because in the first movie, though, a

:

01:13:54,973 --> 01:14:03,013

dog dies because Rusty, or not Rusty

Clark ties it to the back of the car

:

01:14:03,013 --> 01:14:04,893

while they're like packing things up.

:

01:14:05,763 --> 01:14:09,693

Forgets that he tied the dog back

there and they start driving and

:

01:14:09,693 --> 01:14:12,543

this dog is dragged to death.

:

01:14:13,343 --> 01:14:13,373

Alonzo Richardson-2: Oh

:

01:14:13,623 --> 01:14:15,153

Katie: Morbid and dark, right?

:

01:14:15,683 --> 01:14:16,013

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:14:16,233 --> 01:14:18,573

Katie: So a dog dies in the first movie.

:

01:14:18,573 --> 01:14:22,233

So we're set up here for oh shit,

what's gonna happen to this dachshund?

:

01:14:22,773 --> 01:14:27,143

And then we even see Clark and

Rusty go over to them and they're

:

01:14:27,143 --> 01:14:28,673

wearing these berets that are dumb,

:

01:14:29,228 --> 01:14:29,518

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:14:29,873 --> 01:14:31,613

Katie: and we're like, uhoh,

something's gonna happen.

:

01:14:31,613 --> 01:14:32,243

Something's gonna happen.

:

01:14:32,243 --> 01:14:33,743

They're gonna knock into this lady.

:

01:14:33,743 --> 01:14:34,973

Or, that's kind of what I'm thinking.

:

01:14:34,973 --> 01:14:39,083

Somehow this dog is gonna be pushed over.

:

01:14:39,293 --> 01:14:40,163

No, no.

:

01:14:40,643 --> 01:14:45,083

Clark is like, screw the beret,

throws it over and the dog thinks

:

01:14:45,083 --> 01:14:47,633

it's a Frisbee, jumps after it.

:

01:14:47,903 --> 01:14:50,333

And, and we're like, Oh

no, the dog's gonna die.

:

01:14:50,693 --> 01:14:54,053

But we are saved in this PG 13 movie.

:

01:14:54,383 --> 01:14:58,283

The dog lands in like a lake or a pond or

whatever, and the dog is fine, thank God.

:

01:14:58,493 --> 01:14:58,763

But.

:

01:14:58,993 --> 01:15:01,843

Alonzo Richardson-2: remember there

being a waterway near the Eiffel Tower.

:

01:15:01,913 --> 01:15:03,443

Katie: Yeah, I, I, good point.

:

01:15:03,443 --> 01:15:03,923

I don't,

:

01:15:04,123 --> 01:15:04,483

Alonzo Richardson-2: never

:

01:15:04,523 --> 01:15:06,913

Katie: either, but you know, maybe

:

01:15:08,343 --> 01:15:09,603

Alonzo Richardson-2: but they

didn't want to kill another

:

01:15:09,853 --> 01:15:10,273

Katie: they didn't.

:

01:15:10,813 --> 01:15:10,963

Yeah.

:

01:15:10,963 --> 01:15:12,493

So we were, we were saved.

:

01:15:12,493 --> 01:15:14,893

I wonder if that was feedback

from the first movie that people

:

01:15:14,893 --> 01:15:17,113

were like, don't kill dogs, Jesus.

:

01:15:17,183 --> 01:15:17,723

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:15:17,723 --> 01:15:23,083

That was well actually the funny thing

about the per the Berets is like he got,

:

01:15:23,143 --> 01:15:28,213

Clark got Berets for all of his family and

he decided to use the power of the vote to

:

01:15:28,213 --> 01:15:31,603

make sure that everybody wore a beret and

they had Berets with their names on it.

:

01:15:32,023 --> 01:15:33,433

And yes, they did look silly.

:

01:15:33,928 --> 01:15:39,327

I don't think they, they wore 'em

wrong, at least for, for civilians,

:

01:15:40,048 --> 01:15:43,708

it kind of reminded me of when

I was serving for a few years,

:

01:15:43,708 --> 01:15:46,408

they had in the Army wear beret.

:

01:15:46,438 --> 01:15:49,288

They decided that that would

be part of your regular uniform

:

01:15:49,403 --> 01:15:50,663

Katie: it's cool looking.

:

01:15:50,663 --> 01:15:53,033

I love the the military Berets.

:

01:15:53,338 --> 01:15:55,827

Alonzo Richardson-2: and, and I

like the way that it's torn and

:

01:15:55,827 --> 01:15:56,998

it's the funny thing is that.

:

01:15:57,808 --> 01:16:02,188

used to be just the special forces

or the special units that wore beret.

:

01:16:03,208 --> 01:16:06,428

but then somebody was like, I

want everybody to wear beret.

:

01:16:06,428 --> 01:16:07,478

So everybody had to do it.

:

01:16:07,478 --> 01:16:10,898

And they looked neat,

they, they were painted.

:

01:16:10,928 --> 01:16:14,438

'cause you had to shape them

in a very particular way.

:

01:16:14,658 --> 01:16:14,878

Katie: Mm.

:

01:16:15,128 --> 01:16:18,488

Alonzo Richardson-2: And that involved a

lot of work to get it to look just right.

:

01:16:18,908 --> 01:16:21,248

So you had to shape

'em a a particular way.

:

01:16:21,308 --> 01:16:22,418

And they were hot.

:

01:16:22,538 --> 01:16:23,948

They were hot and itchy.

:

01:16:24,663 --> 01:16:26,313

Katie: Oh, and they're worn kind of.

:

01:16:26,313 --> 01:16:28,113

lower and to the side or something.

:

01:16:28,113 --> 01:16:29,223

The military style.

:

01:16:29,633 --> 01:16:30,083

Alonzo Richardson-2: yeah.

:

01:16:30,143 --> 01:16:32,933

And, and that shape is

not natural to the beret.

:

01:16:32,963 --> 01:16:34,523

You have to force it to

:

01:16:34,758 --> 01:16:35,178

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:16:35,483 --> 01:16:38,033

Alonzo Richardson-2: it takes

a lot of water and drying and,

:

01:16:38,033 --> 01:16:39,773

and it is a whole process.

:

01:16:40,098 --> 01:16:41,298

Katie: I didn't realize that.

:

01:16:41,568 --> 01:16:44,918

Well, it is a hot look, I will say

movies with 'cause I know nothing about

:

01:16:44,918 --> 01:16:49,298

the military, but like I'm picturing

like Jean Claude Van Damm in a movie

:

01:16:49,603 --> 01:16:50,023

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:16:50,738 --> 01:16:51,818

Katie: with a beret on.

:

01:16:51,878 --> 01:16:52,478

Anyway.

:

01:16:52,538 --> 01:16:52,958

Yeah,

:

01:16:53,083 --> 01:16:54,793

Alonzo Richardson-2: well what,

what you notice is that the

:

01:16:54,793 --> 01:16:58,783

military berets in a lot of movies

that they're not well shaped.

:

01:16:59,083 --> 01:17:00,043

Katie: You're right.

:

01:17:01,008 --> 01:17:02,928

Alonzo Richardson-2: They're just,

sometimes they're just kind of thrown

:

01:17:02,928 --> 01:17:05,958

on top of somebody's head, and sometimes

it's like they make an effort to shape

:

01:17:05,958 --> 01:17:09,198

it, but it's not shaped like a sharply.

:

01:17:09,463 --> 01:17:10,363

Katie: It's not proper.

:

01:17:10,488 --> 01:17:11,838

Alonzo Richardson-2: they

could have did a better job.

:

01:17:12,913 --> 01:17:15,493

Katie: And, and only somebody

in the military would know that

:

01:17:15,948 --> 01:17:16,308

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:17:16,308 --> 01:17:16,638

Yeah.

:

01:17:16,693 --> 01:17:17,323

Katie: probably.

:

01:17:17,463 --> 01:17:18,788

Alonzo Richardson-2: I'm

cursed with the knowledge.

:

01:17:18,973 --> 01:17:19,393

Katie: I like it.

:

01:17:19,393 --> 01:17:20,653

That's good knowledge though.

:

01:17:21,823 --> 01:17:25,273

So yeah, I think it's here in Paris

too, that Audrey's shitty boyfriend

:

01:17:25,303 --> 01:17:30,603

dumps her, which she's better off with

without Zappa, whatever his name is.

:

01:17:32,388 --> 01:17:36,498

Oh, but they have a super sweet

car in Paris, that orange car.

:

01:17:36,558 --> 01:17:37,518

Do you know what that was?

:

01:17:37,518 --> 01:17:38,508

I'm not a car person.

:

01:17:38,508 --> 01:17:39,948

That's an awesome car.

:

01:17:41,278 --> 01:17:43,468

Alonzo Richardson-2: No, I'm

not familiar with European cars.

:

01:17:44,018 --> 01:17:46,598

Katie: Alright, anybody tell me

what's the orange car that they drive?

:

01:17:46,748 --> 01:17:49,308

It's, it's really it's like a hot car.

:

01:17:49,788 --> 01:17:53,208

It doesn't really look like a

family car, but I really liked it.

:

01:17:53,808 --> 01:17:56,978

And then they take that, they

drive to Germany next and they're

:

01:17:56,978 --> 01:18:00,818

gonna meet relatives that they've

never met, I guess before.

:

01:18:00,878 --> 01:18:05,218

And more mistaken identity happens here.

:

01:18:05,758 --> 01:18:09,868

I just cannot imagine like the,

the griswolds don't know 'cause

:

01:18:09,868 --> 01:18:11,338

they, they don't speak German.

:

01:18:11,338 --> 01:18:12,808

They go to the wrong house.

:

01:18:13,858 --> 01:18:16,348

But the German people are

just like, yeah, cool.

:

01:18:17,278 --> 01:18:19,138

We see them at dinner and I'm like, wow.

:

01:18:19,138 --> 01:18:22,648

They're having like dinner with them

and everything and then we see them.

:

01:18:22,678 --> 01:18:25,978

There's, they spend the

night with the wrong people.

:

01:18:26,032 --> 01:18:27,083

Alonzo Richardson-2: The, the entire time.

:

01:18:27,083 --> 01:18:31,253

It's weird that they've

never exchanged photographs.

:

01:18:32,108 --> 01:18:36,788

that they've never mailed, know,

pictures of themselves and they

:

01:18:36,818 --> 01:18:42,548

kind of, so happy and boisterous is,

it's almost like they bombard, they,

:

01:18:42,548 --> 01:18:44,858

they love bomb the German family.

:

01:18:45,038 --> 01:18:49,178

So it's almost like they have no choice

but to be good hosts to these strangers.

:

01:18:49,188 --> 01:18:50,148

Katie: Good point.

:

01:18:50,208 --> 01:18:50,418

Yeah.

:

01:18:50,418 --> 01:18:50,808

they do.

:

01:18:50,808 --> 01:18:51,168

You're right.

:

01:18:51,168 --> 01:18:51,948

They give them no.

:

01:18:52,128 --> 01:18:52,338

Yeah.

:

01:18:52,338 --> 01:18:53,688

it seems like that.

:

01:18:53,808 --> 01:18:54,407

Yeah.

:

01:18:55,278 --> 01:18:57,468

But then later they're

like, who the hell was that?

:

01:18:57,577 --> 01:18:57,998

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:18:58,128 --> 01:19:00,108

Katie: you let these people

spend the night in your home?

:

01:19:00,108 --> 01:19:00,288

Wow.

:

01:19:01,183 --> 01:19:02,263

Alonzo Richardson-2: And

they're none the wiser.

:

01:19:02,313 --> 01:19:04,863

They thought they just had

this fantastic experience.

:

01:19:05,952 --> 01:19:08,263

Katie: Yeah, they'll go home and

write letters, like thanking them,

:

01:19:08,263 --> 01:19:11,023

sending them a card, like thanking

them for the visit, and then they'll

:

01:19:11,198 --> 01:19:11,678

What?

:

01:19:12,368 --> 01:19:15,218

Yeah, we should get a, we

should get that sequel.

:

01:19:15,888 --> 01:19:17,898

Alonzo Richardson-2: They're just gonna

be telling all their friends one time

:

01:19:18,048 --> 01:19:21,918

these strangers, these Americans came

and they barge into our home and they

:

01:19:21,918 --> 01:19:26,748

were so nice and friendly and we let

'em sleep in a couple of our spare

:

01:19:26,748 --> 01:19:29,208

bedrooms then, and then they left.

:

01:19:29,208 --> 01:19:32,688

And, and they were good people,

but we have no idea who they were.

:

01:19:34,095 --> 01:19:36,765

Katie: when they go to Italy,

they just happen to jump their,

:

01:19:36,770 --> 01:19:43,215

their car in Germany gets stuck

in like an old timey passage way.

:

01:19:43,215 --> 01:19:45,675

Like that's like stone and they the

:

01:19:45,740 --> 01:19:46,309

Alonzo Richardson-2: arch

:

01:19:46,395 --> 01:19:48,165

Katie: Yeah, but

:

01:19:48,590 --> 01:19:49,940

Alonzo Richardson-2: and

I remember that part.

:

01:19:49,940 --> 01:19:51,770

It was like, dad, we're gonna get stuck.

:

01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:52,790

He's like, I know this car.

:

01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:55,880

And it does indeed get stuck

:

01:19:56,985 --> 01:19:57,315

Katie: they have to.

:

01:19:57,315 --> 01:19:58,245

leave their luggage behind.

:

01:19:58,605 --> 01:20:02,235

And it just so happens though, that

there's a train station right there

:

01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,805

that they run to and they just so

happen to jump as they're being

:

01:20:05,805 --> 01:20:08,765

chased because like they're at

this German festival and somehow.

:

01:20:09,545 --> 01:20:12,275

Again, accidentally, Clark starts a brawl.

:

01:20:12,275 --> 01:20:17,495

And so now he's being chased through

the town and they jump just in time

:

01:20:17,555 --> 01:20:20,465

onto this train on their way to

Italy, and it happens to be the Right.

:

01:20:20,465 --> 01:20:22,265

train to the right place.

:

01:20:22,684 --> 01:20:23,855

And now we're in Rome.

:

01:20:24,125 --> 01:20:25,055

Wouldn't, you know, it

:

01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:27,850

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:20:27,850 --> 01:20:30,580

A a a lot of fortunate

coincidences with it.

:

01:20:30,580 --> 01:20:31,180

It works.

:

01:20:31,180 --> 01:20:32,320

It's, it's so funny.

:

01:20:32,710 --> 01:20:37,180

The, the weird thing is that the reason

they're being chased is because they

:

01:20:37,180 --> 01:20:43,000

were in a dance, like a dance show and

that the performers just ask random

:

01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,490

people to join the little dance thing.

:

01:20:45,755 --> 01:20:46,505

Katie: gets like, a,

:

01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,190

Alonzo Richardson-2: if you

don't know how to dance, we,

:

01:20:48,190 --> 01:20:49,690

we'll, you just follow us along.

:

01:20:49,690 --> 01:20:50,170

And it's like,

:

01:20:52,300 --> 01:20:57,430

Griswold is gonna go up and, and he went

and bought the German, the weird German

:

01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:59,020

outfits that it, that they were wearing.

:

01:20:59,230 --> 01:21:02,180

I guess you would call 'em

like traditional or more what's

:

01:21:02,180 --> 01:21:03,170

the word I'm looking for?

:

01:21:03,650 --> 01:21:04,130

Were

:

01:21:04,290 --> 01:21:04,945

Katie: like the folksy.

:

01:21:06,230 --> 01:21:08,390

Alonzo Richardson-2:

stereotypical German outfits.

:

01:21:09,050 --> 01:21:11,960

So he, he guested his get up

and he's enjoying the show.

:

01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,740

And then these performers

on the show is join us.

:

01:21:14,740 --> 01:21:17,559

And so they pull him up

to join him in the dance.

:

01:21:17,559 --> 01:21:20,800

And then while they're dancing, they're

bumping into each other because he

:

01:21:20,830 --> 01:21:21,940

doesn't know what the dance moves

:

01:21:22,045 --> 01:21:22,465

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:21:22,930 --> 01:21:24,190

Alonzo Richardson-2: and he

is accidentally hitting them.

:

01:21:24,190 --> 01:21:25,330

And then they're hitting him back.

:

01:21:25,330 --> 01:21:27,910

And the next thing you know,

it turns into a full on brawl.

:

01:21:27,970 --> 01:21:30,490

And so now they gotta run

away from these German guys.

:

01:21:30,860 --> 01:21:31,670

The performers.

:

01:21:32,420 --> 01:21:36,170

Because they start, everybody starts

fighting at this party, so they

:

01:21:36,170 --> 01:21:38,450

get chased and that's when they get

stuck and that's when they end up

:

01:21:38,450 --> 01:21:41,000

in fortuitously end up in the train.

:

01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,600

Katie: Ooh, good word, fortuitously.

:

01:21:42,745 --> 01:21:43,035

Alonzo Richardson-2: to go.

:

01:21:43,740 --> 01:21:46,620

Katie: This is true also, when I

was watching it, I was like, oh,

:

01:21:46,620 --> 01:21:48,090

that looks like a fun time though.

:

01:21:48,090 --> 01:21:50,820

That German festival, because

there were, I love bread.

:

01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:56,460

There were those big soft pretzels

and so many humongous steins of beer.

:

01:21:56,460 --> 01:21:58,500

I'm like, that looks like a good time.

:

01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,660

They end up in Rome and, don't know

why I was not able to follow the

:

01:22:02,660 --> 01:22:09,353

scheme of the thieves because, oh,

PS because they lost their luggage.

:

01:22:09,353 --> 01:22:11,483

They don't have any money, so

they, when they get to Rome,

:

01:22:11,532 --> 01:22:12,223

they're like, oh, that's okay.

:

01:22:12,223 --> 01:22:15,463

We'll go to the cashier's check

place and get more, I don't know,

:

01:22:15,463 --> 01:22:18,853

cashier's, cashier's check as a thing.

:

01:22:20,413 --> 01:22:22,483

I personally have never

used cashier's checks.

:

01:22:22,483 --> 01:22:25,573

I don't think, like it's so old

:

01:22:25,788 --> 01:22:26,238

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:22:26,298 --> 01:22:26,718

Yeah,

:

01:22:26,893 --> 01:22:27,733

Katie: a thing.

:

01:22:28,188 --> 01:22:30,648

Alonzo Richardson-2: You know what's

funny is that when I first joined the

:

01:22:30,648 --> 01:22:33,018

military, that's how they used to pay us.

:

01:22:33,018 --> 01:22:35,928

Well, they didn't pay us in cashier's

check, but they paid us in such a way

:

01:22:35,928 --> 01:22:41,238

that we would exchange our money for

cashier's check, because at the time,

:

01:22:41,508 --> 01:22:43,758

that was the best way to use our money.

:

01:22:44,478 --> 01:22:44,598

Katie: I.

:

01:22:44,928 --> 01:22:46,843

Alonzo Richardson-2: it's it's not like we

were overseas or anything that was just.

:

01:22:47,657 --> 01:22:49,218

The, the, the process.

:

01:22:49,638 --> 01:22:54,077

And so he used, I used a lot of, and this

was only in basic training, but I used a

:

01:22:54,077 --> 01:22:55,938

lot of cashier's check in basic training

:

01:22:56,968 --> 01:22:58,948

Katie: I don't really understand.

:

01:22:59,938 --> 01:23:03,543

It's supposed to be more secure, but

how, like, how is that better than

:

01:23:04,038 --> 01:23:06,373

Alonzo Richardson-2: theoretically

speaking, if somebody were to steal

:

01:23:06,373 --> 01:23:09,498

your cashier's check, you still

have something like the receipts.

:

01:23:09,558 --> 01:23:10,368

That's why he said.

:

01:23:11,088 --> 01:23:12,438

They were mentioning the stubs.

:

01:23:12,438 --> 01:23:14,568

So you have the, the

receipts for the checks

:

01:23:14,733 --> 01:23:14,952

Katie: Oh.

:

01:23:14,988 --> 01:23:16,368

Alonzo Richardson-2: they're just

like regular checks where you have to

:

01:23:16,633 --> 01:23:17,053

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:23:17,088 --> 01:23:18,198

Alonzo Richardson-2:

order to pay for stuff.

:

01:23:18,978 --> 01:23:21,498

So you have the res when you

tear off the the check, you

:

01:23:21,498 --> 01:23:22,907

still have the stub of the check.

:

01:23:23,208 --> 01:23:27,528

So you can take that and say that, you

know, we were, these were stolen from

:

01:23:27,528 --> 01:23:31,548

us and we just trying to get reimbursed

for the checks that were stolen.

:

01:23:31,878 --> 01:23:33,888

And the Stubbs were proof that you had.

:

01:23:34,173 --> 01:23:35,073

Purchase the check.

:

01:23:35,253 --> 01:23:39,093

And that's why they were supposed

to be secure because you had, you

:

01:23:39,093 --> 01:23:44,693

could prove that that you bought the,

the cashier's check and you can get

:

01:23:44,693 --> 01:23:46,702

reimbursed for the money that was lost.

:

01:23:47,358 --> 01:23:51,827

Katie: Couldn't I just write a cashier's

check, not write in the stub and

:

01:23:51,827 --> 01:23:53,898

claim, just show them blank stubs.

:

01:23:54,863 --> 01:23:56,032

Alonzo Richardson-2: I

don't know exactly how it

:

01:23:56,418 --> 01:24:00,108

Katie: I know, I'm, I, I don't get

this as this, this as a, as a thing.

:

01:24:00,323 --> 01:24:01,223

Alonzo Richardson-2: yeah, yeah,

:

01:24:01,368 --> 01:24:01,698

Katie: yeah.

:

01:24:02,168 --> 01:24:04,598

Alonzo Richardson-2: I guess that

there was a way that they could tell

:

01:24:04,728 --> 01:24:05,058

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:24:05,288 --> 01:24:06,728

Alonzo Richardson-2: the

stub was spent or not.

:

01:24:06,788 --> 01:24:09,818

I, I, I don't know the mechanics

of it, but that, that's the

:

01:24:10,278 --> 01:24:10,758

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:24:10,928 --> 01:24:14,968

Alonzo Richardson-2: that you had proof

that you bought the cashiers check and if

:

01:24:14,968 --> 01:24:16,618

they're stolen, you can get reimbursed.

:

01:24:16,618 --> 01:24:19,348

I remember that all the, all

commercials we were going over

:

01:24:19,348 --> 01:24:20,728

the commercials early in the show.

:

01:24:20,998 --> 01:24:23,698

So we were talking

about, so one of 'em was

:

01:24:23,748 --> 01:24:24,858

Katie: American Express

:

01:24:25,178 --> 01:24:27,488

Alonzo Richardson-2: for cashier's

check and it, they were highly

:

01:24:27,488 --> 01:24:28,538

recommended for when you were

:

01:24:28,788 --> 01:24:29,532

Katie: traveling Yeah.

:

01:24:29,718 --> 01:24:30,558

I remember that.

:

01:24:30,858 --> 01:24:32,808

I mean, I remember my parents using them.

:

01:24:33,483 --> 01:24:37,683

And I used to work at a bank, and

I, I still remember being confused.

:

01:24:37,683 --> 01:24:40,983

Like in college I worked at a

bank and every once in a blue moon

:

01:24:40,983 --> 01:24:43,113

someone would come in and be like,

I need some cashier's checks.

:

01:24:43,113 --> 01:24:43,773

And I'm like, what?

:

01:24:43,773 --> 01:24:44,073

Why?

:

01:24:46,053 --> 01:24:47,282

But anyway,

:

01:24:47,318 --> 01:24:48,818

Alonzo Richardson-2: I meant

that they were going somewhere.

:

01:24:48,963 --> 01:24:49,473

Katie: yeah.

:

01:24:49,473 --> 01:24:50,523

Mm-hmm.

:

01:24:51,003 --> 01:24:58,123

I, speaking of Europe, I'm going to

Greece pretty soon, and so I had to go to

:

01:24:58,123 --> 01:25:01,663

a bank for, I never go to a bank, but I

ordered euros, so I had to go pick them up

:

01:25:02,103 --> 01:25:03,363

Instead of cashier's checks.

:

01:25:03,363 --> 01:25:04,202

I just got some cash.

:

01:25:04,553 --> 01:25:05,873

Alonzo Richardson-2: You just got regular

:

01:25:06,153 --> 01:25:07,473

Katie: regular cash

:

01:25:07,523 --> 01:25:07,733

Alonzo Richardson-2: the

:

01:25:07,743 --> 01:25:08,733

Katie: and my credit card.

:

01:25:09,143 --> 01:25:13,313

Alonzo Richardson-2: Uh uh, and they make

it easier 'cause you don't have to figure

:

01:25:13,313 --> 01:25:15,263

out a bunch of different currencies.

:

01:25:15,263 --> 01:25:18,743

It's one currency that you have to worry

about unless you're going to England

:

01:25:18,743 --> 01:25:20,633

and you have to worry about their

:

01:25:20,898 --> 01:25:21,318

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:25:21,773 --> 01:25:22,103

Alonzo Richardson-2: it.

:

01:25:23,393 --> 01:25:26,843

an incredible benefit that decided

:

01:25:26,913 --> 01:25:27,543

Katie: The Euros.

:

01:25:27,548 --> 01:25:28,473

yeah, I agree.

:

01:25:28,553 --> 01:25:29,603

Alonzo Richardson-2: go to one currency.

:

01:25:29,603 --> 01:25:30,383

That's amazing.

:

01:25:30,573 --> 01:25:30,993

Katie: It is.

:

01:25:31,133 --> 01:25:33,023

Alonzo Richardson-2:

achievement in a thousand years.

:

01:25:34,053 --> 01:25:35,013

Katie: Maybe.

:

01:25:35,043 --> 01:25:35,643

Yeah.

:

01:25:36,452 --> 01:25:39,723

because can you imagine like going

from state to state in the US

:

01:25:39,723 --> 01:25:41,193

and having a different currency.

:

01:25:41,193 --> 01:25:41,523

It's

:

01:25:41,743 --> 01:25:41,873

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:25:42,323 --> 01:25:43,523

And it used to be that way.

:

01:25:44,583 --> 01:25:45,393

Katie: in the States,

:

01:25:45,653 --> 01:25:46,223

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yes.

:

01:25:46,228 --> 01:25:46,278

It

:

01:25:46,383 --> 01:25:46,653

Katie: what

:

01:25:47,213 --> 01:25:50,433

Alonzo Richardson-2: In the earlier

prob probably when there were colonies.

:

01:25:50,523 --> 01:25:54,443

And then in the earlier

parts, you know, after

:

01:25:54,663 --> 01:25:55,293

Katie: that does?

:

01:25:55,353 --> 01:25:56,553

That would make sense.

:

01:25:56,693 --> 01:25:57,053

Alonzo Richardson-2: to

:

01:25:57,273 --> 01:25:57,813

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:25:57,878 --> 01:26:00,353

Alonzo Richardson-2: States, every

state had their own, or every

:

01:26:00,353 --> 01:26:02,493

territory had their own currency.

:

01:26:02,913 --> 01:26:05,313

And I don't know how

the exchange rates work,

:

01:26:05,623 --> 01:26:06,433

Katie: Oh, wow.

:

01:26:06,433 --> 01:26:08,023

I can't, well, that does make sense.

:

01:26:08,023 --> 01:26:09,043

I don't know why I didn't know that.

:

01:26:09,043 --> 01:26:09,613

Thanks Mr.

:

01:26:09,613 --> 01:26:10,303

History, buff,

:

01:26:10,863 --> 01:26:15,032

Alonzo Richardson-2: But soon after

the, the country was formed, I think I,

:

01:26:15,032 --> 01:26:18,753

I don't know when exactly it happened,

but they changed to a national currency.

:

01:26:18,833 --> 01:26:19,133

Katie: Okay.

:

01:26:19,133 --> 01:26:23,452

Well, so Katie's dumb and she doesn't

know the deal with cashier's checks, but

:

01:26:23,452 --> 01:26:30,952

also the robbers at this cashier's check

place, they stow away the manager in the

:

01:26:30,952 --> 01:26:34,883

car that they give to the Griswolds Right,

:

01:26:35,077 --> 01:26:38,123

in, in the trunk, they put the

manager in the trunk and the

:

01:26:38,123 --> 01:26:39,593

griswolds are none the wiser.

:

01:26:39,983 --> 01:26:48,263

They go about their Italian vacation,

and then later the, the thief comes back

:

01:26:48,683 --> 01:26:52,933

and he's trying to get Ellen's purse

away from her to get the key again.

:

01:26:53,958 --> 01:26:54,258

Alonzo Richardson-2: right.

:

01:26:54,258 --> 01:26:56,808

To get the car with the bank manager.

:

01:26:56,808 --> 01:26:58,428

And I don't, I don't even know.

:

01:26:58,603 --> 01:27:00,073

Katie: Like, why did they, why?

:

01:27:01,483 --> 01:27:02,893

I was very confused by that.

:

01:27:02,893 --> 01:27:04,183

I think I'm missing something.

:

01:27:04,183 --> 01:27:08,143

Like why would you give them

a car with him in it if you

:

01:27:08,143 --> 01:27:09,733

wanted the car with him in it?

:

01:27:09,833 --> 01:27:11,213

Or if you wanted that guy.

:

01:27:11,413 --> 01:27:13,123

Alonzo Richardson-2: to get rid

of him, or if you wanted to.

:

01:27:13,303 --> 01:27:15,313

'cause that's basically

what you're trying to do.

:

01:27:15,313 --> 01:27:17,503

You're trying to get, 'cause they

didn't want to kill the dude.

:

01:27:17,907 --> 01:27:22,228

So the, the next, next thing to

do is to, to get rid of him so

:

01:27:22,228 --> 01:27:23,368

that they can keep their money.

:

01:27:23,368 --> 01:27:24,657

So I'm not exactly sure why.

:

01:27:24,657 --> 01:27:29,428

There must have been another reason why

they needed him, but I thought they got

:

01:27:29,428 --> 01:27:32,368

their money, so why would they need him?

:

01:27:32,728 --> 01:27:34,168

So you're, I'm just as

:

01:27:34,238 --> 01:27:34,598

Katie: Okay.

:

01:27:34,598 --> 01:27:34,778

Yeah.

:

01:27:34,778 --> 01:27:38,288

I was like, I don't understand why he

comes back to try and get the car back.

:

01:27:38,288 --> 01:27:38,738

I don't know.

:

01:27:38,738 --> 01:27:39,878

I was very confused by that.

:

01:27:39,878 --> 01:27:41,498

So then he kidnaps Ellen, right.

:

01:27:42,118 --> 01:27:44,308

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah, well see.

:

01:27:44,338 --> 01:27:50,488

She goes willingly and then later on he

kidnaps her, and then, then her husband

:

01:27:50,488 --> 01:27:55,407

has to come and, and rescue her and, and

eventually the rest of the family joins

:

01:27:55,407 --> 01:28:01,288

them in order to rescue her from this

dude, because, you know, when he pulls

:

01:28:01,288 --> 01:28:02,998

out the gun then, then it's kidnapping.

:

01:28:03,188 --> 01:28:03,788

Katie: Yes.

:

01:28:05,318 --> 01:28:07,388

Up until that it's just fun and games.

:

01:28:07,678 --> 01:28:10,258

But it, I mean, that was kind of the,

you know, there's always a little

:

01:28:10,258 --> 01:28:15,148

bit of heartfelt family ness to

these movies and that's kind of it.

:

01:28:15,198 --> 01:28:19,598

'Cause Clark and Ellen had just gotten

in an argument over her nude scene

:

01:28:19,598 --> 01:28:24,638

being on the video tape that Clark

promised her that he deleted that.

:

01:28:24,702 --> 01:28:26,923

Alonzo Richardson-2: nudity,

but apparently some hanky

:

01:28:26,923 --> 01:28:28,183

panky as they used to say.

:

01:28:28,238 --> 01:28:30,998

Katie: Yeah, And keeping, oh my God,

I haven't heard that in so long.

:

01:28:31,963 --> 01:28:32,263

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah,

:

01:28:32,348 --> 01:28:32,768

Katie: right.

:

01:28:33,193 --> 01:28:35,113

Alonzo Richardson-2: some, some

dude got a hold of that video and,

:

01:28:35,113 --> 01:28:36,823

and made an entire film of it.

:

01:28:37,208 --> 01:28:39,608

Katie: Well, the guy in

France stole the video camera.

:

01:28:39,698 --> 01:28:41,168

That footage was on there.

:

01:28:41,378 --> 01:28:43,808

He told her that he had

deleted it, but he didn't.

:

01:28:43,838 --> 01:28:46,088

And then he's like, shit that got stolen.

:

01:28:46,928 --> 01:28:50,678

She ends up on a billboard

for porn or something.

:

01:28:51,118 --> 01:28:53,638

Alonzo Richardson-2: Definitely,

'cause it was a, it was a movie poster.

:

01:28:53,638 --> 01:28:55,108

It was a movie poster for a

:

01:28:55,253 --> 01:28:55,553

Katie: Oh.

:

01:28:55,558 --> 01:28:56,907

Alonzo Richardson-2: I

forgot the name of the movie.

:

01:28:57,338 --> 01:29:01,077

Something about wet Woman in,

wet Wife in Bathroom or something

:

01:29:01,253 --> 01:29:02,423

Katie: was That what it was

:

01:29:02,458 --> 01:29:02,638

Alonzo Richardson-2: movie.

:

01:29:03,188 --> 01:29:09,368

So, they, they made a whole production

out of her little burlesque act and then

:

01:29:09,848 --> 01:29:11,738

the actor making love with her husband.

:

01:29:11,738 --> 01:29:13,568

So all of that was caught on video.

:

01:29:14,577 --> 01:29:14,998

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:29:15,898 --> 01:29:16,563

It was.

:

01:29:16,803 --> 01:29:18,963

That's very typical of

this kind of a movie.

:

01:29:20,193 --> 01:29:22,323

So then they, you know,

oh, they're all happy now.

:

01:29:22,323 --> 01:29:23,103

Everybody's together.

:

01:29:23,103 --> 01:29:24,093

They saved the day.

:

01:29:24,093 --> 01:29:26,223

They go back home on the plane.

:

01:29:27,183 --> 01:29:29,553

And they were in first

class, weren't they?

:

01:29:29,853 --> 01:29:31,173

On the way home somehow,

:

01:29:31,723 --> 01:29:33,398

Alonzo Richardson-2: I, I don't

know if they were in first class.

:

01:29:33,458 --> 01:29:38,348

They were really close to the,

where the pilots they were.

:

01:29:39,243 --> 01:29:42,723

Katie: which would mean an, and it was

only like two seats, or, I don't know.

:

01:29:42,723 --> 01:29:44,373

It seemed like it was first class.

:

01:29:45,018 --> 01:29:47,478

I, I could be wrong, but yes.

:

01:29:47,478 --> 01:29:51,858

The last gag is Clark is looking for

the bathroom and he busts the door

:

01:29:51,858 --> 01:29:54,498

open and it's actually the cockpit.

:

01:29:55,638 --> 01:30:00,848

And as they're dissenting into New York

City, they clip the Statue of Liberty.

:

01:30:00,938 --> 01:30:06,048

That's like the last you know,

mayhem that the Griswolds do,

:

01:30:06,348 --> 01:30:07,278

and now they're back home.

:

01:30:08,438 --> 01:30:08,798

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:30:08,827 --> 01:30:09,188

Yeah.

:

01:30:09,428 --> 01:30:12,358

The, the last bit is

hitting the statue of Li

:

01:30:12,452 --> 01:30:12,873

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:30:13,618 --> 01:30:15,798

Alonzo Richardson-2: So, not necessarily

one of the funniest parts of the

:

01:30:15,798 --> 01:30:19,848

movie, but it, they, it's like they

needed to figure out how to end it, so

:

01:30:19,848 --> 01:30:21,423

that's, that's what they decided on.

:

01:30:22,473 --> 01:30:22,983

Katie: Good point.

:

01:30:22,983 --> 01:30:25,202

They were like, what's

one last gag we could do?

:

01:30:25,518 --> 01:30:27,888

Did you know that?

:

01:30:27,918 --> 01:30:33,077

So Griswold in all of these, like

the Griswolds, the original Griswolds

:

01:30:33,407 --> 01:30:39,108

is spelled, g-R-I-S-W-O-L-D.

:

01:30:40,488 --> 01:30:46,258

But in this movie we see on the

game show we see it with an A.

:

01:30:47,638 --> 01:30:47,858

Alonzo Richardson-2: Oh,

:

01:30:47,968 --> 01:30:53,098

Katie: So it's spelled differently

in this movie than in the

:

01:30:53,098 --> 01:30:55,558

rest of the series A versus O.

:

01:30:56,702 --> 01:31:00,993

Alonzo Richardson-2: Well, I, I'm

probably one of the worst spellers

:

01:31:01,623 --> 01:31:07,048

out there working today, so I couldn't

I, I couldn't recognize words that

:

01:31:07,048 --> 01:31:12,428

are spelled correctly and incorrectly

or words with alternate spelling.

:

01:31:12,463 --> 01:31:15,157

I, I get it all wrong

most of the time, so.

:

01:31:15,543 --> 01:31:18,933

Katie: This is one of my biggest

pet peeves in movies, is seriously,

:

01:31:18,933 --> 01:31:22,532

you can't get your own character's

name spelled Right, This, this is

:

01:31:22,532 --> 01:31:25,323

the sequel to a very famous movie,

and you're spelling the name wrong.

:

01:31:25,323 --> 01:31:28,383

That was probably just an

oversight on the game show.

:

01:31:28,443 --> 01:31:30,693

Like you see the, like on

the Family Feud, you know, is

:

01:31:30,693 --> 01:31:32,103

their last name, the Griswolds.

:

01:31:32,943 --> 01:31:35,373

This happened in Rocky Balboa too.

:

01:31:35,702 --> 01:31:40,853

Polly's Pauly Panino is is his name.

:

01:31:41,393 --> 01:31:43,043

And the sixth movie in the series.

:

01:31:43,353 --> 01:31:48,363

They're shown at a press conference

or something with his, like a, his

:

01:31:48,363 --> 01:31:50,973

name on a sign and it says Panina.

:

01:31:51,663 --> 01:31:53,663

And I'm like, what are you doing?

:

01:31:54,593 --> 01:31:56,603

How are you getting

this name spelled wrong?

:

01:31:56,633 --> 01:31:57,773

And, nobody caught that.

:

01:31:57,863 --> 01:31:59,393

This, that drives me nuts.

:

01:31:59,698 --> 01:32:00,118

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:32:00,713 --> 01:32:01,163

Katie: Sorry.

:

01:32:01,268 --> 01:32:02,498

Alonzo Richardson-2: This

movie, they could probably

:

01:32:02,498 --> 01:32:04,388

write it off as a gag, but in

:

01:32:04,398 --> 01:32:04,698

Katie: True.

:

01:32:04,808 --> 01:32:09,038

Alonzo Richardson-2: movie, you know,

probably no excuse for it, but it's

:

01:32:09,038 --> 01:32:13,928

like, it's something where somebody had

written it down so could see somebody

:

01:32:13,928 --> 01:32:18,218

not getting a name, and just, and him

not noticing that it's not spelled right.

:

01:32:18,218 --> 01:32:21,248

'cause he is not looking at the design

to see if it's spelled correctly.

:

01:32:21,248 --> 01:32:23,888

He's just at a press conference

to answer questions or whatever.

:

01:32:24,368 --> 01:32:24,878

So.

:

01:32:25,673 --> 01:32:30,193

And Rocky is, is like less of an

excuse for it, but it is it's some

:

01:32:30,193 --> 01:32:31,243

of the details people don't pay.

:

01:32:31,363 --> 01:32:31,903

It's like.

:

01:32:32,118 --> 01:32:33,378

Katie: That's somebody's job, right?

:

01:32:34,003 --> 01:32:37,243

Alonzo Richardson-2: It's like a, a me,

a medieval show like Game of Thrones

:

01:32:37,273 --> 01:32:39,433

and somebody has a Starbucks cup,

:

01:32:39,778 --> 01:32:40,548

Katie: Yeah, yeah,

:

01:32:40,633 --> 01:32:43,543

Alonzo Richardson-2: have to

go back and digitally erase the

:

01:32:43,763 --> 01:32:44,753

Katie: yeah.

:

01:32:44,843 --> 01:32:46,433

Oh, that kind of stuff drives me nuts.

:

01:32:46,543 --> 01:32:49,633

Alonzo Richardson-2: even probably one

of the stage hands had had brought to

:

01:32:49,633 --> 01:32:51,463

the set and, and you know, not paying

:

01:32:51,653 --> 01:32:51,983

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:32:52,153 --> 01:32:52,753

Alonzo Richardson-2: the scene.

:

01:32:52,823 --> 01:32:53,183

Katie: Yep.

:

01:32:54,043 --> 01:32:55,723

Alonzo Richardson-2: you know,

accidents happen, I guess.

:

01:32:57,163 --> 01:32:57,973

Katie: Yeah, I know.

:

01:32:57,973 --> 01:33:00,193

I understand how it can happen,

but the fact that nobody

:

01:33:00,193 --> 01:33:01,663

catches it drives me nuts.

:

01:33:01,893 --> 01:33:04,053

Alonzo Richardson-2: Or they caught it

and it was like, well, it's too late now.

:

01:33:04,323 --> 01:33:05,223

It's already shot,

:

01:33:07,683 --> 01:33:08,973

and it's like it would cost us

:

01:33:09,118 --> 01:33:09,598

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:33:09,903 --> 01:33:11,823

Alonzo Richardson-2: of thousands

of dollars to try to fix it.

:

01:33:11,998 --> 01:33:12,448

Katie: true.

:

01:33:13,588 --> 01:33:18,657

Some trivia, in addition to the name

change is that Eric Idol, the guy who

:

01:33:18,778 --> 01:33:24,738

plays the bicyclist that they keep

seeing he and Chevy Chase became friends

:

01:33:24,738 --> 01:33:30,058

after the filming of this movie and

they had planned, they started working

:

01:33:30,058 --> 01:33:36,068

on a screenplay for a follow-up called

National Lampoon's Australian Vacation.

:

01:33:36,338 --> 01:33:40,338

And, they had some gags planned

out, including some shark related

:

01:33:40,338 --> 01:33:44,088

ones, but I, guess they abandoned

the project shortly after.

:

01:33:44,088 --> 01:33:45,407

They couldn't come up with a whole movie.

:

01:33:45,407 --> 01:33:48,318

But I would like to see the

Australian vacation movie.

:

01:33:49,223 --> 01:33:49,583

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah,

:

01:33:49,668 --> 01:33:50,657

Katie: I think that would be fun.

:

01:33:50,873 --> 01:33:53,623

Alonzo Richardson-2: why they couldn't

come up with a bunch of gags for

:

01:33:53,623 --> 01:33:58,813

Australia, because that is, you can

have so much fun with how dangerous

:

01:33:58,853 --> 01:33:59,663

Katie: It's rife.

:

01:33:59,723 --> 01:34:00,713

Yeah.

:

01:34:00,823 --> 01:34:03,553

Alonzo Richardson-2: everything

there is designed to kill

:

01:34:03,773 --> 01:34:04,043

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:34:04,843 --> 01:34:07,088

Alonzo Richardson-2: all the animals are

deadly, all the plants are poisonous.

:

01:34:07,843 --> 01:34:09,043

can have a lot of fun with that.

:

01:34:09,623 --> 01:34:10,223

Katie: I agree.

:

01:34:10,282 --> 01:34:13,853

It's like National Lampoons

meets Crocodile Dundee.

:

01:34:14,532 --> 01:34:14,952

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:34:15,013 --> 01:34:15,403

Yeah.

:

01:34:15,893 --> 01:34:16,943

Katie: That's what they should have done.

:

01:34:17,313 --> 01:34:18,362

Not surprisingly.

:

01:34:18,362 --> 01:34:22,443

So I don't know if you're aware or

not that Chevy Chase is notoriously,

:

01:34:22,693 --> 01:34:24,343

hard to work with and kind of a dick.

:

01:34:24,933 --> 01:34:25,353

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:34:25,393 --> 01:34:26,293

Katie: don't know if you're aware of that.

:

01:34:26,583 --> 01:34:29,103

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah,

I've heard he's problematic

:

01:34:29,323 --> 01:34:29,803

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:34:30,193 --> 01:34:35,413

So he and Amy Hecker,

Heckerling, the director, really

:

01:34:35,413 --> 01:34:37,243

did not get along so much.

:

01:34:37,243 --> 01:34:42,163

So that one report said that

she refused to step on set

:

01:34:42,163 --> 01:34:43,483

unless she had a plane ticket.

:

01:34:44,503 --> 01:34:47,053

Like to New York ready

to leave at any time.

:

01:34:47,053 --> 01:34:50,163

She wanted, if she got

so fed up , with Chevy,

:

01:34:50,702 --> 01:34:53,523

Alonzo Richardson-2: you know, it's funny,

I thought that he was like that in his old

:

01:34:53,523 --> 01:34:55,803

age, but apparently he's always like that.

:

01:34:55,893 --> 01:34:58,353

And then I think like even him and.

:

01:34:59,073 --> 01:35:01,952

Some members of the Saturday

Night Live cast didn't get along.

:

01:35:01,952 --> 01:35:04,653

I think maybe him and bill

Murray didn't get along.

:

01:35:04,653 --> 01:35:05,223

I don't know,

:

01:35:05,298 --> 01:35:05,983

Katie: yes, you're right.

:

01:35:05,983 --> 01:35:10,173

They didn't 'cause he's also kind of a

hard to , they're both just very strong.

:

01:35:10,353 --> 01:35:10,893

Yeah.

:

01:35:11,193 --> 01:35:14,913

So they, I can see that

being a disaster waiting.

:

01:35:15,083 --> 01:35:15,983

Alonzo Richardson-2: both weird

:

01:35:16,112 --> 01:35:16,413

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:35:16,733 --> 01:35:17,213

Alonzo Richardson-2: ways.

:

01:35:17,553 --> 01:35:18,273

Katie: for sure.

:

01:35:19,023 --> 01:35:19,833

Let's see what else.

:

01:35:19,893 --> 01:35:25,202

Oh, you probably did not notice

their t-shirts that said Wally World.

:

01:35:25,532 --> 01:35:26,193

They sev

:

01:35:26,407 --> 01:35:26,708

Alonzo Richardson-2: that.

:

01:35:26,853 --> 01:35:30,093

Katie: the several of the cast

member or the family were wearing

:

01:35:30,093 --> 01:35:31,143

them throughout the movie.

:

01:35:31,373 --> 01:35:31,663

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:35:31,893 --> 01:35:35,823

Katie: Well, that's where, that was the

ultimate destination in the first film.

:

01:35:36,428 --> 01:35:37,178

Alonzo Richardson-2: Oh, okay.

:

01:35:37,293 --> 01:35:42,903

Katie: So it was, it was fun for us to see

that carry through, that they were wearing

:

01:35:42,903 --> 01:35:44,913

their touristy t-shirts from Wally World.

:

01:35:44,913 --> 01:35:45,933

Mm-hmm.

:

01:35:46,103 --> 01:35:47,093

Alonzo Richardson-2:

I saw the Wally world.

:

01:35:47,093 --> 01:35:50,362

I didn't know what the reference was

because when I think of Wally World, I

:

01:35:50,362 --> 01:35:53,032

think people are referencing Walmart.

:

01:35:53,063 --> 01:35:55,403

That's, that's what it's referred to.

:

01:35:55,612 --> 01:35:56,963

That's Wally world today.

:

01:35:57,093 --> 01:35:57,603

Katie: Yes,

:

01:35:57,743 --> 01:36:00,293

Alonzo Richardson-2: But back in the

day, it was a fictional amusement park.

:

01:36:00,423 --> 01:36:01,173

Katie: it was.

:

01:36:01,263 --> 01:36:01,503

Mm-hmm.

:

01:36:01,773 --> 01:36:03,813

You have to go back and watch the original

:

01:36:03,987 --> 01:36:04,208

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yes.

:

01:36:04,793 --> 01:36:11,333

Katie: One of the best parts of the

other originals is Cousin Eddie, which

:

01:36:11,393 --> 01:36:13,463

you're missing out on in this movie.

:

01:36:13,883 --> 01:36:18,638

But yeah, he doesn't appear it's the

only of the original four I think.

:

01:36:19,568 --> 01:36:20,407

Is he in Vegas?

:

01:36:20,768 --> 01:36:21,188

Yeah.

:

01:36:21,338 --> 01:36:26,018

Cousin Eddie, who's quite a

character played by Randy Quaid,

:

01:36:27,098 --> 01:36:27,318

Alonzo Richardson-2: Oh,

:

01:36:27,758 --> 01:36:30,038

Katie: the less famous Quaid brother.

:

01:36:30,098 --> 01:36:30,278

Mm-hmm.

:

01:36:31,237 --> 01:36:31,657

Yeah.

:

01:36:31,868 --> 01:36:35,768

So you gotta, I feel like, I

feel like I'm selling hard.

:

01:36:35,827 --> 01:36:40,088

The other ones Christmas especially

and the original vacation.

:

01:36:40,243 --> 01:36:41,683

Alonzo Richardson-2: you're

saying Randy Quaid was in

:

01:36:41,683 --> 01:36:44,383

vacation and Christmas vacation

:

01:36:44,748 --> 01:36:45,157

Katie: Yes.

:

01:36:45,643 --> 01:36:46,952

Alonzo Richardson-2: and

he wasn't in this one.

:

01:36:47,008 --> 01:36:47,638

Katie: Correct.

:

01:36:47,758 --> 01:36:48,538

Mm-hmm.

:

01:36:48,778 --> 01:36:49,978

He plays Cousin Eddie,

:

01:36:50,433 --> 01:36:52,112

he's quite a character.

:

01:36:52,503 --> 01:36:55,503

He's probably one of the best parts.

:

01:36:55,653 --> 01:36:56,103

Yeah.

:

01:36:56,438 --> 01:36:59,343

Alonzo Richardson-2: in real life,

he's kind of a character, so he,

:

01:36:59,678 --> 01:37:01,388

he doesn't, he doesn't stop, he

:

01:37:01,413 --> 01:37:01,683

Katie: The,

:

01:37:01,928 --> 01:37:02,407

Alonzo Richardson-2: off with him.

:

01:37:02,553 --> 01:37:06,483

Katie: that tracks I, I, that

doesn't surprise me at all.

:

01:37:07,118 --> 01:37:08,888

Alonzo Richardson-2: If it's

anything like the character he

:

01:37:08,888 --> 01:37:10,338

played and what's that movie?

:

01:37:11,118 --> 01:37:13,008

It's that bowling movie Kingpin.

:

01:37:13,153 --> 01:37:13,933

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:37:13,933 --> 01:37:14,473

I forget.

:

01:37:14,598 --> 01:37:16,278

Alonzo Richardson-2: kingpin,

I know that I'm going to enjoy

:

01:37:16,333 --> 01:37:17,413

Katie: You're gonna enjoy it.

:

01:37:17,473 --> 01:37:18,973

I'll just, I guarantee it.

:

01:37:19,023 --> 01:37:19,503

For Randy Culo,

:

01:37:20,903 --> 01:37:21,293

Alonzo Richardson-2: yeah,

:

01:37:21,383 --> 01:37:21,803

yeah.

:

01:37:22,523 --> 01:37:25,253

Katie: The other thing I, I kind

of forgot about this, but in

:

01:37:25,253 --> 01:37:29,003

:

:

01:37:29,123 --> 01:37:30,053

That's where they went.

:

01:37:30,263 --> 01:37:33,503

There was still West and East Germany.

:

01:37:33,583 --> 01:37:34,123

Alonzo Richardson-2: Right.

:

01:37:36,023 --> 01:37:36,833

Katie: That's wild.

:

01:37:36,833 --> 01:37:40,153

'cause then I was reading there, they

kept referencing it shows like on the

:

01:37:40,153 --> 01:37:43,063

Wikipedia, I think it shows like all

the different locations that they,

:

01:37:43,123 --> 01:37:46,423

they go to, which was fun for me

'cause I've been to on most of them.

:

01:37:46,903 --> 01:37:50,353

But then they did say that scenes

supposedly taking place in West

:

01:37:50,353 --> 01:37:57,073

Germany were actually shot in a German

speaking part of Italy called Brixton.

:

01:37:57,571 --> 01:37:58,351

Alonzo Richardson-2: that's fascinating.

:

01:37:58,351 --> 01:38:01,981

It's fascinating that there's a

German speaking part of Italy.

:

01:38:01,991 --> 01:38:02,741

Katie: I know, right?

:

01:38:03,861 --> 01:38:07,941

Well I suppose we have like little

Italy's here, you know, there's a little,

:

01:38:08,126 --> 01:38:09,266

Alonzo Richardson-2: speaking Italian.

:

01:38:09,266 --> 01:38:13,296

It's, it's like people who happen

to well, I guess maybe they are,

:

01:38:13,531 --> 01:38:15,991

Katie: the old people

maybe, but Yeah, yeah.

:

01:38:16,206 --> 01:38:18,216

Alonzo Richardson-2: is not like you

walk in there and all of a sudden

:

01:38:18,216 --> 01:38:19,386

you can't understand what people are

:

01:38:19,621 --> 01:38:20,401

Katie: Good point.

:

01:38:20,466 --> 01:38:23,226

Alonzo Richardson-2: say that it's

a German speaking part of ili, I'm

:

01:38:23,226 --> 01:38:27,936

imagining that when you go into that

area, there's no Italian whatsoever.

:

01:38:29,281 --> 01:38:29,641

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:38:29,641 --> 01:38:30,841

Wild man.

:

01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:31,351

Yeah.

:

01:38:31,351 --> 01:38:35,460

Well, I certainly enjoyed

this like more than I thought.

:

01:38:35,491 --> 01:38:39,751

'cause I, I guess I didn't have really any

expectations that had been so long since

:

01:38:39,751 --> 01:38:43,081

I'd seen this and I really enjoyed it.

:

01:38:43,981 --> 01:38:46,171

Plus it's like a little vacation yourself.

:

01:38:46,171 --> 01:38:49,951

We get to travel to Europe with them

and see all the sites, so that was fun.

:

01:38:50,521 --> 01:38:51,031

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah.

:

01:38:51,101 --> 01:38:56,861

Katie: be the crown jewel of the vacation

movies, but I, I found it awesome.

:

01:38:57,281 --> 01:39:04,611

Like a good little postcard, shall we

say from:

:

01:39:04,611 --> 01:39:07,791

final thoughts about European vacation?

:

01:39:08,276 --> 01:39:10,016

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah,

I still enjoyed this movie.

:

01:39:10,016 --> 01:39:13,196

It was still fun to watch e

even after all of these years.

:

01:39:14,216 --> 01:39:18,446

uh, I brought back some memories

of just being at home, watching HBO

:

01:39:18,816 --> 01:39:20,226

playing hooky from school or something.

:

01:39:22,351 --> 01:39:24,451

Katie: I didn't have

HBO when I was a kid, so

:

01:39:25,806 --> 01:39:27,726

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah,

that's, that's how I watched it.

:

01:39:28,021 --> 01:39:28,981

I always found this.

:

01:39:29,431 --> 01:39:33,871

Movie amusing and, and I

was thoroughly amused again.

:

01:39:33,931 --> 01:39:34,856

So yeah, it was fun.

:

01:39:35,946 --> 01:39:37,925

Katie: I can't thank you

enough for joining me to talk

:

01:39:37,925 --> 01:39:40,646

about this I guess lesser.

:

01:39:40,925 --> 01:39:43,716

John Hughes didn't have such

a huge part in it, but it's

:

01:39:43,716 --> 01:39:45,516

part of his character Canon.

:

01:39:45,846 --> 01:39:46,686

I loved it.

:

01:39:47,026 --> 01:39:51,675

I always loved talking nostalgia with

you, Zoe, please remind us where we can

:

01:39:51,675 --> 01:39:54,616

find you and what we can look forward to.

:

01:39:54,646 --> 01:39:55,816

200th episode.

:

01:39:55,876 --> 01:39:57,496

You gonna tease what it is

:

01:39:58,571 --> 01:40:02,231

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah, actually we,

talked about the 200 episode a little bit.

:

01:40:02,561 --> 01:40:05,441

You brought up a certain

character that wore white.

:

01:40:07,781 --> 01:40:08,201

Katie: really.

:

01:40:08,626 --> 01:40:09,226

Okay.

:

01:40:09,255 --> 01:40:09,826

Okay.

:

01:40:09,826 --> 01:40:11,056

That's a good tease.

:

01:40:12,101 --> 01:40:15,071

Alonzo Richardson-2: my 200

episode will be in Star Wars

:

01:40:15,106 --> 01:40:15,616

Katie: Very nice.

:

01:40:16,811 --> 01:40:18,311

' Alonzo Richardson-2: cause

you mentioned Luke Skywalker

:

01:40:19,091 --> 01:40:20,741

and so I'm excited about that.

:

01:40:21,591 --> 01:40:24,941

Also and I mentioned earlier

that my next episode is going

:

01:40:24,941 --> 01:40:27,791

to be and Ted's bogus journey.

:

01:40:27,821 --> 01:40:32,181

I've been on a kind of a

journey of comedic sci-fi films

:

01:40:32,356 --> 01:40:32,866

Katie: Okay.

:

01:40:33,081 --> 01:40:36,291

Alonzo Richardson-2: either comedic

sci-fi or just kind of quirky sci-fi.

:

01:40:36,291 --> 01:40:39,771

So I had ly, like just

recently I've done Armageddon,

:

01:40:39,866 --> 01:40:40,286

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:40:40,341 --> 01:40:42,380

Alonzo Richardson-2: is kind

of a quirky action thriller.

:

01:40:42,380 --> 01:40:44,621

And then did, was that one?

:

01:40:44,621 --> 01:40:44,951

I did.

:

01:40:44,981 --> 01:40:49,091

Oh, so this is something, this is

gonna be the strangest movie and

:

01:40:49,091 --> 01:40:52,271

that you may have heard people talk

about it's the Adventures of Buck Ru

:

01:40:52,271 --> 01:40:54,550

Bonsai across the eighth dimension.

:

01:40:55,331 --> 01:40:55,781

So

:

01:40:56,091 --> 01:40:59,511

Katie: I've definitely heard of

the movie, but I've not seen it,

:

01:40:59,891 --> 01:41:03,761

Alonzo Richardson-2: I'm honestly,

it is hard to recommend, but at the,

:

01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,761

and even when, like when I watched

it, 'cause I had never watched

:

01:41:06,761 --> 01:41:08,231

a movie from beginning to end.

:

01:41:08,261 --> 01:41:13,210

Usually when I'm doing the movies on

my show, it's movies that I've seen

:

01:41:13,210 --> 01:41:17,501

before because I grew up with them and

I'm basically reviewing my favorite

:

01:41:17,681 --> 01:41:18,101

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,821

Alonzo Richardson-2: this one was just

a movie that I was fascinated with

:

01:41:22,541 --> 01:41:23,951

never watched the whole thing through.

:

01:41:24,431 --> 01:41:29,081

And it has, I guess now it would be

considered an All star cast because

:

01:41:29,081 --> 01:41:32,191

it, it had John Lithgow, Peter Weller,

:

01:41:32,411 --> 01:41:32,621

Katie: Oh

:

01:41:32,731 --> 01:41:33,151

Alonzo Richardson-2: Lloyd

:

01:41:34,361 --> 01:41:35,261

Katie: really?

:

01:41:35,321 --> 01:41:36,041

Oh my God.

:

01:41:36,335 --> 01:41:38,221

Alonzo Richardson-2: and

know, and Christopher Lloyd is

:

01:41:38,221 --> 01:41:40,141

really the star of this movie.

:

01:41:40,141 --> 01:41:41,491

Like he plays the main villain.

:

01:41:42,460 --> 01:41:44,231

It's a alien invasion story.

:

01:41:44,681 --> 01:41:49,361

So the Buckaroo Bonsai has

to stop these alien from.

:

01:41:49,766 --> 01:41:52,916

And, you know, invading Earth,

that, that's his whole mission.

:

01:41:53,726 --> 01:41:56,466

And it's, weirdly complex.

:

01:41:56,556 --> 01:41:56,886

It is.

:

01:41:56,886 --> 01:41:58,476

Got some weird humor in it.

:

01:41:58,476 --> 01:42:00,276

'cause it's built as a sci-fi comedy.

:

01:42:00,546 --> 01:42:02,046

Most of it I didn't find funny.

:

01:42:02,046 --> 01:42:02,196

They

:

01:42:02,316 --> 01:42:02,536

Katie: Oh.

:

01:42:02,646 --> 01:42:04,566

Alonzo Richardson-2: was just,

weird stuff that was happening.

:

01:42:05,646 --> 01:42:09,726

Like all the aliens have the

first name John, and there's one

:

01:42:09,726 --> 01:42:11,916

character named John Big Butte.

:

01:42:12,816 --> 01:42:13,296

And.

:

01:42:14,601 --> 01:42:17,361

And he, and that's the one

played by Christopher Lloyd.

:

01:42:17,781 --> 01:42:20,851

And so just it, it is just a,

:

01:42:22,286 --> 01:42:23,156

Katie: Does he have a big bt?

:

01:42:23,251 --> 01:42:25,981

Alonzo Richardson-2: to recommend

because it's, yeah, well, his name,

:

01:42:26,161 --> 01:42:29,791

he wants people to call him big bt,

but people keep calling them Big

:

01:42:30,151 --> 01:42:30,571

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:42:30,751 --> 01:42:32,311

Alonzo Richardson-2: big

Booty, do this, do that.

:

01:42:32,371 --> 01:42:35,731

And then he'll get upset and

he say It's big bta, big bt.

:

01:42:38,686 --> 01:42:40,066

To me, that was the funniest part.

:

01:42:40,066 --> 01:42:44,386

Him getting upset over people not saying

his name the way he wanted it pronounced.

:

01:42:44,425 --> 01:42:46,771

Katie: It sounds Space

balls esque, sort of.

:

01:42:47,116 --> 01:42:48,736

Alonzo Richardson-2: yeah,

it's baseball's esque.

:

01:42:48,886 --> 01:42:51,746

So, it's hard to recommend, but I enjoyed

:

01:42:51,761 --> 01:42:52,050

Katie: Okay.

:

01:42:52,196 --> 01:42:53,306

Alonzo Richardson-2: So I put it that way.

:

01:42:53,406 --> 01:42:54,066

Katie: Alright.

:

01:42:55,116 --> 01:42:56,046

From what year?

:

01:42:56,106 --> 01:42:57,005

What year is That one?

:

01:42:57,416 --> 01:42:58,136

Alonzo Richardson-2: That is.

:

01:42:58,886 --> 01:43:02,396

I wanna say it is like

19 84, 85, something like

:

01:43:02,466 --> 01:43:02,826

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:43:03,026 --> 01:43:03,326

Alonzo Richardson-2: It's

:

01:43:03,396 --> 01:43:04,416

Katie: our sweet spot here.

:

01:43:04,526 --> 01:43:05,036

Alonzo Richardson-2: eighties.

:

01:43:05,425 --> 01:43:09,016

It's the early Peter Willer, I

think it was before he did Robocop.

:

01:43:09,130 --> 01:43:09,421

Katie: Okay.

:

01:43:10,276 --> 01:43:12,255

Alonzo Richardson-2: yeah, that,

I think that's the movie where

:

01:43:12,255 --> 01:43:15,835

people know him from before Robocop.

:

01:43:16,076 --> 01:43:19,856

And then that's where the phrase, well,

well, most people got familiar with

:

01:43:19,856 --> 01:43:22,771

the phrase, you go, there you are.

:

01:43:23,606 --> 01:43:26,456

That's what people got familiar

with that phrase, the movie didn't

:

01:43:26,456 --> 01:43:32,096

originate that idea or that phrase,

but that's the movie that people

:

01:43:32,096 --> 01:43:33,866

most associate with that phrase.

:

01:43:33,866 --> 01:43:33,896

I

:

01:43:34,331 --> 01:43:36,335

Katie: I've literally

never heard that before.

:

01:43:36,966 --> 01:43:38,706

I feel like, but i'm weird.

:

01:43:39,186 --> 01:43:44,496

But either way, it sounds like you've got

some fun episodes already out and some

:

01:43:44,496 --> 01:43:47,166

super fun episodes just about to come out.

:

01:43:47,166 --> 01:43:51,816

So everyone go check out Zoe on

Back Look Cinema Podcast cast.

:

01:43:51,911 --> 01:43:54,401

Alonzo Richardson-2: Yeah, you

can find that@backlogcinema.com.

:

01:43:55,236 --> 01:43:59,585

Katie: And thank you for joining

us on this trip down memory lane.

:

01:43:59,616 --> 01:44:05,286

Now go write me a review and meet me

next time for another retro adventure.

:

01:44:05,556 --> 01:44:06,846

And until next time.

:

01:44:07,191 --> 01:44:08,841

Be kind, rewind.

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