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Episode 53

Curly Sue | S2E11

Welcome back to Retromade! Today we’re heading back to 1991 to revisit Curly Sue—John Hughes’ final film as a director. It’s got street scams, sentimentality, and one very scrappy kid with big hair and even bigger heart.

I’m excited to introduce a new guest to the show: Andrew from The Nostalgia Fun House podcast. Andrew is a father of three with a passion for pop culture, particularly the 1980s, which is his favorite decade. He has been actively engaged in podcasting for five years, sharing insights and discussions related to these interests. Check out Andrew:

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and

welcome to Retro Made.

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You Are Pop Culture Rewind.

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Today we're headed back to

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This is John Hughes

final film as a director.

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It's got street scam sentimentality

and one very scrappy kid with big

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hair and an even bigger heart.

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I'm very excited to introduce you all

to a new guest to the show, Andrew

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from the Nostalgia Funhouse podcast.

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Andrew's been actively podcasting

for about five years now, . Please

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tell the retro made listeners

about you and your show, Andrew.

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Andrew: So the nostalgia Funhouse

has actually had a name change.

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We changed it to the nostalgia Funhouse.

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I started out under the name

of Let's Talk, but No Politics.

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Okay.

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But we just started doing so much

nostalgia and retro topics that I

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was like, we're just gonna change it.

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That way we can get it.

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So, yeah, it's pretty much,

we just talk about everything.

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We do an end of the month

movie review every month.

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We do different types of segments.

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We do a thing called

Saturday Morning Rewind.

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Where every once in a while we watch

lock from, say, like a, b, c,:

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We watch all those cartoons

and see how we feel about 'em.

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We do a thing called pop culture

court where we put people on trial.

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We've done it to Scott Kelvin and from

the Santa Claus and Kevin McAllister.

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We've put him on trial

as well at one point.

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So we've done that.

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I'm trying to think.

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And we also do things like

turning sitcoms into dramas.

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So we've just recently, yeah, we've,

it's, it's a pretty interesting thing,

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but mostly it's top six lists tournaments,

things like That Just everything,

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nostalgia base, everything of that nature.

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So it's pretty much most of the years

we cover, I think the newest year

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we've probably have ever done is.

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Around 2005, pretty much.

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If it's, if it's after 2005, we,

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we normally don't touch it.

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Katie: That

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Andrew: Yeah.

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Katie: So it's a good little combo

for us to get together and talk

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because we talk about very similar

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Andrew: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: So I would

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recommend everybody check

out Andrew's podcast.

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I'm very curious what the

verdict was on Kevin McAllister.

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Andrew: He, so I treat,

my friend went into it.

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He was the prosecutor, I was the defense,

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Katie: Okay.

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Andrew: into it like we were going

to kind of like joke around in a way,

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but I actually started looking up laws

in Illinois and everything like that.

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So actually Kevin got off because

of the Castle doctrine, because

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they broke into his house.

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So he was able to defend him himself

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in That case.

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Katie: That tracks,

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Andrew: Yeah.

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It was very interesting.

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He was like, I didn't think we

were like looking up case studies.

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And I was like,

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Katie: Hey,

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Andrew: I,

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Katie: you're combining pop

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culture with true Crime.

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I love it.

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Those are

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Andrew: yeah,

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Katie: favorite types of podcasts.

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That's freaking fantastic.

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And yeah, we'll be talking about

Home Alone come Christmas time

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because that's John Hughes as well.

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I did see Andrew, that you already

covered Curly Sue on your podcast,

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but I purposefully did not listen

to the episode I will after this.

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But I didn't want it to taint any of our

conversation that we will have today.

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Andrew: I think of my stance

has kind of changed in a way

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now That I've rewatched it.

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So it's gonna be interesting

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Katie: Okay.

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Andrew: I always try and do, whenever

I do the movie reviews, I always

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think about how I felt as a kid

and as it kind of still stand up.

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So it's like a young Andrew

versus an adult Andrew and

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how I feel about everything.

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Katie: That definitely makes sense.

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Well, I'm excited, but before we get into

our time capsule, I do wanna share some

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thoughts from a listener Scott from the

all nineties action all the time podcast.

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He sent me a lovely note.

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He says, Hey Katie, I hope you're well.

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I just wanted to get in touch

to say how much I've been

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enjoying your John Hughes season.

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I think the episodes you've done

so far have been great, and I

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dig the revamp time capsule too.

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Well, that's good.

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Thanks Scott.

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this season has also inspired me to check

out the Hughes films I have Not Seen as

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you cover them, which so far has been Mr.

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Mom and career opportunities,

also listening.

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There was a couple things that came up in

your latest episode on National Lampoon's

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vacation that you and your guests seemed

unaware of that I know the answer to.

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The first was, the last detail

is the Jack Nicholson film from

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the seventies directed by Hal.

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from Harold and Maude.

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Oh, we were curious what the

last detail was because I

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think Randy Quaid was in that.

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I think that's what we

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Andrew: Oh.

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Katie: what we were

talking in reference to,

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and we weren't sure what

the heck that movie was.

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So thank you, Scott.

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He says it's really good.

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Awesome.

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Okay.

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Well, I'm gonna have to check out well,

it obviously got some award praise, so I'm

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gonna have to check out the last detail.

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it fits in thematically with your

episode as it is also a road trip movie.

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Oh, okay.

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secondly, James Keach is

indeed Stacy Kes brother.

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We had inquired.

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So the guy who plays the

motorcycle cop in vacation,

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Andrew: Okay.

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Katie: his name is James Keach,

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and we were like, Hmm, I wonder

if he's Stacy Keech brother.

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But of course none of us

looked it up we were right.

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So thank you Scott for

for jumping in there.

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And he says lastly, total film was one

of the two most popular film magazines

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in the uk, the other being empire

until it closed its doors last year.

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You may have already looked that

stuff up or possibly don't care, but

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hopefully you found it interesting.

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Anyway, keep up the great work.

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Thank you so much, Scott.

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If, if you all wanna be like Scott, send

me an email retro made podcast@gmail.com

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and be like, Scott, I love

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Andrew: Yep.

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Katie: people and whether you

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wanna correct me whether you wanna

just say, Hey, whether you wanna

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say you like it, you don't like it.

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Send me an email.

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Alright, Andrew,

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Andrew: Yep.

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Katie: are going to spin the retro

made wheel in our time capsule.

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Andrew: I do a retro fantasy thing

with my friend, so he just spins the

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wheel for me when we gotta pick a

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pick a week

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Katie: I am gonna spin on your behalf,

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we're gonna see what

category we come upon.

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Now, I will say have already covered

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Andrew: Okay.

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Katie: hopefully we don't double dip.

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'cause I

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We'll, spin again if, if that happens.

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Andrew: okay.

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Katie: Return to tune time.

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Andrew: Ooh,

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Katie: Here's a question for

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you.

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Premiering.

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In 1991, this show featured a duck

superhero who balances crime fighting

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with his life as a wealthy socialite.

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His sidekick is the secret

agent dog name this cartoon.

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Andrew: oh.

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It's not It I thought

it was dark wing duck.

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Katie: It is.

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Andrew: Oh, it is,

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Katie: Yeah.

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Does he

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Andrew: does It I wasn't

a big dark wing duck guy.

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Katie: Same.

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Andrew: My, my co-host Johnny Loves

Dark wing Duck, and it's one of the

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things that he always says, I hate

everything that he loves, but I would,

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I always tell him, just wasn't into it.

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I was ducktails and after

Ducktails, I was kind of all ducked

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out when it came to the duck.

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cartoons, but I figured

it was dark wing duck.

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Let's get dangerous.

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Katie: It is.

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Dark wing duck.

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Andrew: Okay?

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Katie: this one kind of missed

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me and now that I, you bring,

there were a lot of duck related

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Andrew: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: for some reason.

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Andrew: Yeah.

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That Disney Afternoon was like

just Sunday them out and I

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was like, ah, dark wing duck.

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It's cool, but

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Katie: Yeah.

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Andrew: I like letting my

launchpad quack on Ducktails.

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not on another show.

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Katie: Ducktails.

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Were good?

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Yes.

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Let's see if you'll get this one.

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I don't know if I would have.

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Okay.

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In this 1991 cartoon, an adventurous

boy and his magic carpet explore a

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fictional Arabian city facing villains

and making friends along the way.

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What's the name of this series?

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Andrew: Aladdin, is It

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Katie: It is, I

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Andrew: Is it?

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Katie: I didn't know there was a series,

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but

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Andrew: Yes,

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Katie: Aladdin had a TV

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series apparently.

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Andrew: it was, if I remember correctly,

it was like early, early in the morning,

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Katie: Mm, okay.

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Andrew: like on the weekdays.

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So if my mom would wake me up

early to go to school, it was kind

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of like one of those things that.

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would be on.

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And they also had a Little

Mermaid series as well.

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Katie: I vaguely recall that.

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I don't think I watched it, but yeah, I

think if anything was popular, they were

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like, let's see how much money we can

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Andrew: Yeah.

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Katie: this.

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This one, I don't know.

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Andrew: Okay.

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Katie: This 1991 animated series follows

a group of teenagers who gain superpowers

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after a mysterious storm and fight evil

forces led by a villain named Hacker.

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Andrew: Oh, that's, that's the centurions

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Katie: Is it,

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Andrew: it I wanna say, but I thought

that was more in the eighties.

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Is it,

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Doc Hacker or?

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Oh no, that okay.

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I think that is Super Human Samurai Squad.

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Katie: this shows.

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Andrew: Okay.

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Katie: my answer is wrong

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or it's, that's highly possible, but it

shows SWAT Cats, the Radical Squadron.

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Andrew: okay.

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So Yeah.

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probably 'cause the super, the

super Samurai, whatever it was

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like they were super Cyber Samurai.

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But I think that came out

later because it was kind of a.

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A Power Ranger rip off where they could

only use their powers inside of a,

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in the computer

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Katie: You mentioned the squadron part.

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I've literally never heard of

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Andrew: ohs.

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Katie: Cats, the Radical

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Andrew: I've heard of SWAT Cats.

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Katie: you have.

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Andrew: Yeah.

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It's a Hanna bar.

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Katie: let me know if you've heard

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Cats?

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Andrew: a H of barbaric cartoon.

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I

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Katie: Hannah Bara.

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Andrew: it, they kind of, they were

like two cats and they like worked

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in a junkyard, but then All of a

sudden they made like this really

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cool plane and they did fly around.

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I never knew their

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villain name was Hacker.

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Katie: Okay.

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All right, well, you did pretty good.

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Let's see about another category, Andrew.

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Andrew: says I have a lot

of useless knowledge, so,

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Katie: it, I mean, it comes in handy

for you know, podcast episodes.

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Let's see if we covered VHS Vault.

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Nope.

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Here we go.

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I.

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Andrew: okay.

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Katie: Ooh, this'll be

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fun.

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okay.

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so VHS Vault.

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This is the top five

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movies like at Blockbuster in 1991.

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I have clues for you, but I'm

curious if you have any guesses.

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Andrew: So

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I'm thinking home alone, even

though it came out in 90.

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Kinda like that overlap.

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Katie: Very good guess, but No

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Andrew: trying to think of what else.

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I think I, I need clues on this one then.

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Katie: but similar.

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It's, it's a bunch of stuff that

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came out in 90,

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Andrew: Yeah.

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Katie: So here's

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your first hint.

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The number one rental in 1991.

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A tragic pottery scene, a subway

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Andrew: Oh,

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Katie: and Whoopi Goldberg

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channeling the afterlife.

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Andrew: ghost.

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Katie: Very good.

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Andrew: was so scared of whenever those

demon shadow people would come out.

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Katie: That was kind of dark,

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Andrew: Yeah,

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Katie: it

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Andrew: it was, I remember it?

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was like I had a friend's sleepover

and We were watching like HBO way

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later than what we should have.

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And Ghost came on and I saw those

shadows came out and I didn't

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sleep very good that night.

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Katie: We covered Ghost last season

in the ultimate everyman season

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Andrew: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Swayze obviously

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in it.

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So fun

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one.

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Number two, a Hollywood fairytale

featuring a street smart woman, a

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businessman, and a shopping spree for

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Andrew: all

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pretty woman.

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Katie: Yes.

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Oh my God,

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that's one of

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Andrew: Uh,

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Katie: Movies.

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Andrew: yeah, I was so, my

friends find it very odd.

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When I was growing up, we were

pretty much allowed to watch

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whatever we wanted to watch.

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Like my grandmother so.

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Their idea of kids' movies when it came

to stuff were way different than mine.

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They're like, so what

did you watch as a kid?

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And I'm like, oh, ROHO

Cop, predator Commando.

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I was like, yeah, we watched that,

but those weren't my kids' movies.

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So Pretty Woman was, I think a movie night

Where it was like, you got two choices.

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You can go upstairs or you can

watch Pretty Woman with Us.

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So I decided to stay

and watch pretty well.

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Katie: you in the birth

order of your siblings?

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Andrew: I am the youngest,

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Katie: Same with me, and I

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Andrew: so.

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Katie: why Andrew, I also watched

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Pretty Woman at a very young, I

watched everything at a younger

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age than probably my siblings.

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'cause they

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Andrew: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: She's not

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gonna understand half of it.

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And we're just, this is

what we're watching, so who

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Andrew: Well, I also have an aunt

that is only 13 years older than me,

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Katie: Okay.

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Andrew: so.

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She literally just at the

age of 18, did not care.

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I watched Breakfast Club probably

constantly over and over and over again

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and she would always yell, you know,

smoke 'em up, Johnny, and stuff like that.

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Katie: Oh, that's such a good one.

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Andrew: Yeah.

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Katie: episode of this season.

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Andrew: Yeah, so it's kind

of been one of those things.

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I'm three years younger than my

brother that but than my aunt's

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like only 13 years older than me.

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So that's where when I wrote down a lot of

my influences and in the eighties, because

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that's pretty much what they just got me

into at that point, even at an early age.

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Katie: Yeah, that makes sense.

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All right, the number

three video rental, 91.

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It's a good one.

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As far back as I can remember,

this mobster saga made slicing

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garlic with a razor look

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Andrew: Oh,

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Katie: form.

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Andrew: good fellas.

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Katie: Oh,

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Andrew: Yeah,

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Katie: of my favorite movies of all time.

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I love it

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Andrew: but I love that movie too.

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That's a great one.

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Katie: the next two are not as obvious.

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Andrew: Okay.

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Katie: Okay.

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Number four.

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Your

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hint is a fugitive in the Witness

protection program and his

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fiery ex get chased across the

country often on motorcycles.

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Andrew: Oh my goodness.

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Why did I thi At first I

thought it was, what is that?

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My Blue heaven?

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But that's definitely not it.

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Fugitive.

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Katie: is in it.

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Andrew: Oh,

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what do,

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Katie: Mel Gibson.

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Andrew: why do I wanna say Bird on a wire.

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But that's not it.

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Is it?

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Katie: it is

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Andrew: is it?

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I needed the actors or I don't think I

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Andrew: Yeah I never even seen that one.

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I just remember previews in the

movie theaters for it though.

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Katie: I actually guessed on

a, another podcast Amel Gibson

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podcast where we talked about it.

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I love Goldie.

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Andrew: Oh,

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Katie: Much Mel.

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Okay.

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The last one, the hint is

medical students tempt fate by

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Andrew: oh,

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Katie: hearts to see what lies

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beyond and bring back more than memories.

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Andrew: that is, Flatliners.

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Katie: It is,

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Andrew: Yeah,

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Katie: This doesn't seem

that familiar to me.

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Andrew: it's, Oh so my dad had

this thing called a cheater box.

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So my parents were divorced like

when I got, when I was four.

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So I'd go to my dad's on the weekends and

he had this thing called a cheater box.

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So you would get unscrambled pay-per-view.

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So that's how I lot watched

a lot of movies was under

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Unscrambled Pay-per-View and.

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I watched Flatliners probably way

earlier than I was supposed to because

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it is a very, very freaky movie.

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The way that they go under and

kind of, they kind of go into

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like their own personal hell in

a way as they kill themselves.

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Like it's a very, it's a very good movie.

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I'm not a Keith or Sutherland guy,

but he's pretty good in there.

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Julia Roberts is in

there as well, I believe.

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Yeah, it's,

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Katie: they kill

themselves and then their,

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friends or their other, the

other students bring them back?

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Is

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Andrew: yeah.

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So it's like they, they try and kill

themselves and then after a while they

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almost bet on each other or make bets

of how long they can stay dead for.

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Katie: Oh, wow.

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Andrew: So at one point they're

like, I could do it for two minutes,

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and then somebody out of nowhere

would be like, I'll do it for five.

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And they'd be like, okay.

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I think maybe Oliver Platt's in it too.

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I wanna say it's a pretty, I.

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Decent cast, but Yeah.

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But they almost face like their own

personal hell and their like own

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demons that they gotta, it's like

a weird version of it in a way too.

448

:

You know, like it makes

'em face their fears.

449

:

Well

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:

Katie: Oh,

451

:

Andrew: this is kind of like what

happens when they go under, like they

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have to face what their fear or the

biggest regret in life or something

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:

traumatic that happened to them.

454

:

I think I, was probably what,

eight when that eight when it

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came out around there and it.

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was intense for an 8-year-old

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:

Katie: it sounds like it.

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:

Andrew: like Ghost was like nothing

compared to, I felt Flatliners because

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of the, the story in Flatliners.

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:

Katie: All right.

461

:

We have time for maybe one more category,

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:

retro runway.

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:

So this is some fashion stuff.

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:

91.

465

:

This is an easy one.

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:

In 1991, this type of oversized

outerwear, often plaid or tweed,

467

:

and inspired by grunge culture and

nirvana's rise became street wear

468

:

staple for both teens and 20 somethings.

469

:

What was it?

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Andrew: Flannel

471

:

Katie: Flannel shirts?

472

:

Yep.

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:

After the release of Thelma and Louise

in:

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:

saw a resurgence among women worn with

high-waisted jeans and often paired

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:

with cowboy boots for a rebellious edge.

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:

What item is this?

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:

Andrew: I have no idea.

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:

Katie: Bandanas.

479

:

Andrew: Okay.

480

:

I,

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:

Katie: Often worn as

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:

headbands or neck accessories.

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:

Andrew: okay.

484

:

Katie: Yeah.

485

:

And the last one, Nike released to

this now iconic sneaker designed

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for basketball star Michael Jordan

featuring visible air units and a bold

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:

infrared colorway that helped launch

sneaker culture into the mainstream.

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:

Which model

489

:

Andrew: which model?

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:

Katie: Yeah.

491

:

Andrew: number of Jordan it is or

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:

Katie: Yes.

493

:

But I, it is there, Jordan, obviously

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:

Points if you

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:

get the number

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:

Andrew: I'm very intrigued by

nature, culture, like the whole

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idea of a sneakerhead, but I, it's

probably one of those things that

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:

I like to look at from far away.

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:

Katie: same.

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:

Andrew: Uh,

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:

Katie: Guessed the number.

502

:

I

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Andrew: Jordan?

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:

Katie: yeah.

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:

Andrew: Jordan.

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:

Oh, it's 93

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:

Katie: 91.

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:

Andrew: Sorry.

509

:

91.

510

:

Jordan

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:

threes

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Katie: Air

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:

Jordan six.

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:

Andrew: they were on

six, but I was figuring,

515

:

Katie: they started

earlier than I thought too.

516

:

Mm-hmm.

517

:

Andrew: okay, so.

518

:

there was a new one

every year then probably

519

:

Katie: I

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:

Andrew: at the,

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:

cause he came in,

522

:

Katie: People are probably yelling

at us 'cause I'm not a sneakerhead

523

:

Andrew: I

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:

Katie: so, so somebody that

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:

knows better let us know.

526

:

I kind of assume there's a new one

every year, but I could be wrong.

527

:

Andrew: I was debating the, what is it?

528

:

Puma, and then there's a

basketball player, Lalo Ball.

529

:

He came out with, they were pretty decent

looking ninja Turtle inspired sneakers.

530

:

Katie: Awesome.

531

:

Andrew: I was looking at 'em and looking

at 'em, and then I was like, a hundred

532

:

and something dollars for sneakers.

533

:

And I'm like and then right when

I was about to say, you know

534

:

what, I'm just gonna get 'em,

they were sold outta my size.

535

:

So

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Katie: Of course.

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:

Andrew: a way it was

538

:

kind of not meant to be.

539

:

So

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Katie: to be.

541

:

I know.

542

:

It's sort of like the universe.

543

:

You're like, well, I

think that worked out.

544

:

Yeah.

545

:

Andrew: Yeah.

546

:

So I bought a pair of Hey dudes instead.

547

:

So there's my,

548

:

there's my shoes for the,

549

:

Katie: I don't even know what that is.

550

:

Andrew: those are, they're kind

of just slip-on boat shoes,

551

:

I wanna say like a loafer.

552

:

They're pretty popular.

553

:

And they, only way that

I knew about it is.

554

:

my younger cousin wore 'em and

they looked really comfortable.

555

:

And so normally I'm in, I wear, Hey dudes.

556

:

And then if I do yard work, I wear crocs.

557

:

That's my whole, so.

558

:

Katie: That's your shoe

559

:

Andrew: yeah.

560

:

that's what's my daughter say?

561

:

My, my drip.

562

:

She tries to do that all the time to me.

563

:

She asks me what my drip costs and I

say it's not very expensive because

564

:

I spent the majority of my, money

on you, on you and your brothers, so

565

:

Katie: Well, my shoe allowance is more

than yours because I am child free, so.

566

:

Andrew: you see, yeah they're

getting older though, so now

567

:

it's not, now it's not too much.

568

:

But plus two, I spend, if you could, when

you see behind me, it's mostly on action

569

:

figures and stuff, which they

make fun of me about, but I

570

:

tell 'em, they give me joy.

571

:

So they're for,

572

:

They're fun to have.

573

:

Katie: Everybody's got a, a hobby

or an interest or something makes

574

:

you easy to buy for then too,

575

:

feel

576

:

Andrew: Yeah.

577

:

Yeah.

578

:

My, my wife normally laughs at me.

579

:

We are completely on the

opposite ends of things when in.

580

:

So when it comes to a lot of the,

yes, it's very much very different.

581

:

I did an episode with her before star

Trek or Star Wars 'cause she didn't know.

582

:

So I.

583

:

would just name stuff, you know,

like Spock and she would have

584

:

to pick Star Trek or Star Wars.

585

:

And,

586

:

Katie: has she seen either

587

:

Andrew: She's watched Star Wars 'cause

of her father, but she hates it.

588

:

She's never seen Star Trek.

589

:

And I tried to explain Star Trek to

her and, 'cause we watched the Big

590

:

Bang Theory and they dressed up as

like, the Next Generation, which

591

:

is my favorite Star Trek series.

592

:

And I, tried to explain

things and she was like,

593

:

just don't just shut up and watch the,

594

:

Katie: care.

595

:

Andrew: yeah.

596

:

Katie: No, I I relate to

597

:

her.

598

:

I feel like I could play that game.

599

:

I, having not seen them,

600

:

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

601

:

Katie: it's so prevalent in our

culture and society that I feel like

602

:

I get some of the references, so

603

:

Andrew: Y

604

:

Katie: feel like I

wouldn't do too horribly

605

:

at that game.

606

:

Andrew: Yeah, she, yeah, she just I

normally, if it gets too quiet, I ask her.

607

:

I'm a big wrestling fan, so I

ask her a bunch of weird, weird

608

:

questions from back in the day.

609

:

There was a tag team called

the Killer Bees, and I always

610

:

go, who's your favorite?

611

:

Killer B?

612

:

Is it B Brian Blair?

613

:

Or Jump in Jim Bronzel?

614

:

And she's like, just go to your office.

615

:

Katie: You know, I actually did grow up

watching wrestling in the eighties though.

616

:

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

617

:

Katie: my grandparents'

house, my grandpa was

618

:

into it, but I think I only

know, like the older stuff,

619

:

Andrew: yeah, it, I've delved into my

new thing is since I've gotten older

620

:

and I don't know what it is, normally

you go into World War II or grilling, I

621

:

feel if you're a man, once you hit over

40, mine is, mine is wrestling history.

622

:

like I've delved into the whole history

of how it came to a certain point and

623

:

even to the point where how guys used

to get paid out per match and, you know,

624

:

and the whole lifestyle of everything.

625

:

It, it's very interesting before

that point in the eighties

626

:

where it went totally national.

627

:

Katie: This sounds like

a side podcast, Andrew.

628

:

Andrew: I'm, I only do my one.

629

:

I only do my one.

630

:

So,

631

:

but yeah, it's,

632

:

Katie: Hint, hint.

633

:

I bet there's an audience for

634

:

Andrew: Yeah, it's it's definitely

very, very interesting the way that,

635

:

you know, certain things happen and

how everybody's like, oh, you're gonna

636

:

destroy the business, and then all of

a sudden you find out that they exposed

637

:

the business since 1930 something

of how everything works, but it just

638

:

kind of gets swept under the rug.

639

:

Katie: Yeah, I, I do think it's more

interesting than at first blush.

640

:

You might think so.

641

:

Before we chat about Curly

Sue, thank you for playing my

642

:

Andrew: no problem.

643

:

Katie: made wheel time

644

:

capsule.

645

:

I have a whole season on John Hughes and

this being his final directorial work.

646

:

I'm curious if you have any particular

thoughts John Hughes that you wanna share.

647

:

Andrew: John Hughes once again is

one of those people that when you're

648

:

younger, I didn't pay much attention

to directors, and it was more who was

649

:

in the movie and could I recognize

them kind of from something else.

650

:

So as a kid, I, I always

loved every one of his movies.

651

:

I mean, there's still a couple

that I haven't seen, like career

652

:

opportunities I didn't see.

653

:

And I,

654

:

you guys did a wonderful job of painting

the picture of career opportunities.

655

:

And it's one of those things where

I'm like I don't think I'm gonna see

656

:

that one, but thank you for showing,

you know, explaining it to me.

657

:

But as when I got older and I

started to realize who he was, it

658

:

was like, wow, he's this guy making

all these great movies out there that

659

:

I just constantly enjoyed as a kid.

660

:

And we're a big part of my childhood and,

you know, breakfast Club, uncle Buck, the

661

:

Great Outdoors 16 Candles, pretty in pink.

662

:

Like I said, my aunt was only 13

years older than me, so she was

663

:

a teenager through those times.

664

:

So those were the things

that we had to watch.

665

:

And so I just thought he

was really, really great.

666

:

But then.

667

:

I kind of get into the history

of him and I see his later stuff.

668

:

I kind of like feel he lost it.

669

:

Like it was just not there.

670

:

Like a professional athlete that you watch

from his rookie year and you're like,

671

:

wow, this is gonna be something special.

672

:

And then all of a sudden you're like

you should have stopped earlier.

673

:

You're not what you are,

you're not what you used to be.

674

:

Just maybe don't, you know,

you don't wanna be mean, but

675

:

like time has passed you by.

676

:

I understand a lot of people like to

go until they say the wheels fall off.

677

:

But

678

:

I feel like at a certain point,

I think home alone was his peak.

679

:

And then after that it was downhill

from, there wasn't anything as magical

680

:

or there wasn't as much coming to age as

what he was known for in the later ones.

681

:

Katie: Yeah, I think I concur with you.

682

:

Definitely known for the

teen pack type movies.

683

:

and then he kind of lost his muses,

but was still able to, you know, some

684

:

of the family adventure comedies.

685

:

He kinda moved more towards that

and I, I think I agree after that.

686

:

I did read too I can't recall what

year John Candy died, but I think

687

:

that was really hard on John Hughes.

688

:

It sounds like he just kind of lost

that, that impacted his wanting

689

:

or, or passion for writing and

690

:

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

691

:

Yeah, It's because he, did he do change

or plane trades and automobiles also?

692

:

Katie: Yep.

693

:

Andrew: Yeah.

694

:

So I could see where.

695

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

696

:

Andrew: He hit that real big stride with,

you know, Molly Ringwald and the Brat

697

:

Pack, and then it went into John Candy,

and then after that it seemed like he

698

:

couldn't find it again with anything else.

699

:

Katie: I think I, I fully agree.

700

:

It's been really interesting

doing this season.

701

:

'Cause I was definitely not

an expert uh, John Hughes and,

702

:

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

703

:

Katie: know, really looked up to

704

:

him.

705

:

Some of those moves we talked about.

706

:

But, he's human just like the rest of us,

707

:

Well, without further ado,

let's get into Curly Sue.

708

:

October 25th, 1991 was the release date.

709

:

This is a PG movie IMDB, it's only a 5.9.

710

:

And I think that tracks,

711

:

Andrew: Yeah.

712

:

Katie: This is

713

:

both written and directed by John Hughes.

714

:

And I, I did read though that

although this was his final

715

:

directorial effort, it wasn't actually

originally planned to be that way.

716

:

according to Gene, Cisco Hughes had

planned to direct two more films with

717

:

good friend and collaborator, John Candy.

718

:

Candy's premature death in 1994, Hughes

decided to quit directing altogether

719

:

and focus on writing and producing.

720

:

And that the loss of candy is

what ultimately kept him away

721

:

from the director's chair.

722

:

'cause he loved working with

that particular actor so much.

723

:

However, that was in the mid

nineties and I, I think even before

724

:

then, he had kind of started to

725

:

Andrew: Teeter off.

726

:

Katie: His magic.

727

:

Yeah.

728

:

So.

729

:

If you all listening or watching,

haven't seen Curly Sue or if it's

730

:

been, 30 years or something like that.

731

:

movie is about Bill Dancer and

his young companion, curly Sue.

732

:

They're the classic homeless

folks with hearts of gold.

733

:

Their scams are aimed not at turning

a profit, but at getting enough to eat

734

:

when they scam the rich and beautiful

Gray Ellison into believing that

735

:

she backed her Mercedes into Bill.

736

:

They're only hoping for a free

meal, but she's touched and over

737

:

the objections of her snotty fiance

insist on putting them up for the

738

:

night they get to know each other.

739

:

Bill becomes convinced that this is where

Curly Sue belongs in a home cared for by

740

:

someone that can give her the advantages

that his homeless nomadic existence lacks.

741

:

He plans to leave her in Gray's custody

and take off, but she has other ideas.

742

:

All right, so this bill dancer

is played by James Belushi

743

:

Andrew: Yes.

744

:

Did

745

:

Katie: Kelly Lynch plays

the beautiful Gray Ellison.

746

:

And we talked about her obviously on

the Roadhouse episode from last season.

747

:

And I had completely forgotten

that she was in this movie

748

:

because she kind of faded into

749

:

Andrew: obscurity, I didn't

realize she was in Roadhouse,

750

:

so

751

:

Katie: I think that's

what she's most known for

752

:

Andrew: really?

753

:

See, I'd had no idea that when I,

well, so my thing with Roadhouse

754

:

was like a friend brought the

VHS over and we watched it and.

755

:

I was more in tune to say Patrick

Swayze and Sam Elliott, where I

756

:

was like, these are the coolest

guys on the face of the earth.

757

:

So

758

:

Katie: right.

759

:

Andrew: It was one of those things.

760

:

So that's probably why I didn't

really recognize her so much.

761

:

Katie: Yeah, I mean, she's she's there for

the, I mean, she's very beautiful in it.

762

:

But yeah, I mean, me, I, yeah, Patrick

and Sam brought me to the party for sure.

763

:

Andrew: Yeah,

764

:

Katie: no, that's one I grew up watching.

765

:

And yeah, I don't know if you listened

to the Roadhouse episode, but we

766

:

were like, it's actually really good.

767

:

It's not,

768

:

Of people are like, oh, it's, it's a bad

769

:

movie.

770

:

That's fun to watch.

771

:

But I'm like, it's a good movie.

772

:

Andrew: it's got a famous wrestler

in it too, and Terry Funk, he plays.

773

:

Katie: Yeah.

774

:

That's right.

775

:

Were you familiar with the actress

who plays Curly Sue at all?

776

:

Alison Porter?

777

:

Andrew: No, I know a lot of people get,

I felt like a lot of people got her mixed

778

:

up with the Pepsi girl, but then come to

find out, I don't think she was the Pepsi

779

:

girl, if you remember the Ray Charles

780

:

Pepsi commercials.

781

:

Katie: yes,

782

:

Andrew: that was her and when we

were doing it, I'm thinking to

783

:

myself, I don't think that's her.

784

:

like they look the same,

785

:

Katie: I

786

:

Andrew: but it

787

:

Katie: her.

788

:

Andrew: doesn't track when

that Pepsi commercial came

789

:

out compared to this movie.

790

:

So I was like, I think

they're two different people

791

:

that just look very similar.

792

:

Katie: I think you're right.

793

:

'cause I actually did look up Allison's

work and Allison is spelled, I hate it

794

:

when parents do this to their children.

795

:

Just give, spell a name normally because

her name Allison is spelled A-L-I-S-A-N.

796

:

Andrew: Yeah, it's.

797

:

Katie: She's gonna forever

798

:

have to spell that for people.

799

:

Andrew: Yep.

800

:

Katie: but I looked

801

:

up to see, cause I didn't

really recognize her.

802

:

She's known for this movie.

803

:

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

804

:

Katie: but she also had a role in

805

:

1980 Nine's Parenthood

806

:

Andrew: Yeah, I

807

:

Katie: then

808

:

Andrew: don't

809

:

Katie: Random

810

:

episodes of a lot of popular

TV shows in the eighties.

811

:

Like PeeWee's Playhouse, family Ties

Perfect Strangers and Golden Girls.

812

:

One of my favorites.

813

:

Get this, Andrew, she won

season 10 of The Voice

814

:

Andrew: see, that's where my wife

loves that show and I, would, I

815

:

don't like it, so I didn't watch it.

816

:

'cause that was, I wish I would've watched

that, but then she probably would've got

817

:

bad at me 'cause I kept on, would've been

calling her Curly Sue the whole time.

818

:

So, but that's pretty impressive.

819

:

'cause she sings in this movie

and she sings pretty good, like

820

:

Katie: I noted the fact that she

sings in this movie, 'cause I had

821

:

already looked up who she was and I

822

:

Andrew: mm-hmm.

823

:

Katie: God.

824

:

And that was just in

825

:

2016,

826

:

Andrew: the voice has had

some pretty interesting like

827

:

eighties minor celebrities.

828

:

Like I believe Dottie from PeeWee's

Big Adventure was on there too,

829

:

Katie: Oh, all right.

830

:

Andrew: because I got, I was like,

that's my winner, that's my horse.

831

:

And that's when I started

watching it because I wanted

832

:

to see if Dottie was gonna win.

833

:

And then, I don't know.

834

:

I

835

:

don't think she did I don't think she

836

:

did.

837

:

Katie: now, let's see.

838

:

So we talked about So Gray,

839

:

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

840

:

Katie: for some reason I don't know

841

:

Andrew: It was,

842

:

Katie: and I will consistently

843

:

call.

844

:

So James Belushi is Bill Dancer.

845

:

Kelly Lynch plays Gray Ellison and

I, whenever I do podcasts, I always,

846

:

it's a movie, I haven't seen a ton.

847

:

I tend to say the actor's name

848

:

Andrew: yeah.

849

:

See that's.

850

:

Katie: of the character.

851

:

But her name is Gray, which

I thought was interesting.

852

:

Andrew: It's very, he's

got a very interesting.

853

:

choice in names.

854

:

I felt like he was trying to go big with

gray, like think of something good like,

855

:

Hey, let's call her Gray And then all of

a sudden it was like, well, what are we

856

:

gonna name the, you know, the male lead?

857

:

Let's just go with build dance dancer.

858

:

Katie: Bill,

859

:

Andrew: doesn't,

860

:

Katie: yeah.

861

:

Gray Ellison sounds

very like hoity though.

862

:

And

863

:

Andrew: yes.

864

:

Katie: A

865

:

fancy lady.

866

:

' Andrew: cause it starts off very hard

with her where she's like, and 'cause

867

:

she's a divorce lawyer and she's like,

we're gonna go after your husband and

868

:

we're just going to take 'em right

off at the legs and everything else.

869

:

And then

870

:

good.

871

:

Katie: super high

powered divorce attorney.

872

:

Her client, Mrs.

873

:

Arnold is played by Barbara Tarbuck.

874

:

and it's the only reason

I bring her up because she

875

:

doesn't, not really well known.

876

:

But she has a lot of TV credits

and say 80% of them, she plays

877

:

either a judge or a doctor

878

:

Andrew: Oh

879

:

Katie: random TV episodes.

880

:

Yeah.

881

:

And then her boss at this law

firm is played by Fred Thompson.

882

:

Andrew: yes.

883

:

And he's got one of the greatest lines

I've ever heard to tell somebody.

884

:

'cause my wife is very career

driven, even though she says it.

885

:

And I've definitely gotta start using this

line outta where he says, if you don't

886

:

stop going 190 miles per hour, you know

per hour, you're gonna hit something.

887

:

And I was like that's great for

people that are just go, go, go.

888

:

Katie: Great point.

889

:

I had, Fred Thompson is very well known.

890

:

He's been in a ton of stuff, I would say.

891

:

Andrew: And Order is probably where

I recognize him the most from.

892

:

Katie: oh, see, I only watch SVU,

893

:

Andrew: Oh, okay.

894

:

Katie: one.

895

:

Good call

896

:

though.

897

:

The hunt for red.

898

:

October,

899

:

Andrew: Alright.

900

:

Katie: maybe one of his most

901

:

famous movie credits.

902

:

And then because I love all these

like sitcoms from the eighties, I

903

:

recognized him also because he, in

the early Roseanne, he plays her

904

:

dickhead boss at the plastics factory,

905

:

Andrew: Oh,

906

:

Katie: Faber, I wanna say,

907

:

or Faber or Farber or something.

908

:

Andrew: okay.

909

:

Didn't George Clooney end up taking that

point when he played, what is the name?

910

:

Booger or Booker.

911

:

on Rosie.

912

:

Okay.

913

:

Katie: Yeah.

914

:

And then Jackie

915

:

dates them.

916

:

Yeah, for sure.

917

:

Andrew: See?

918

:

Katie: So Gray's, I didn't

realize it was her fiance,

919

:

Walker McCormick,

920

:

that's also like a very rich

921

:

Andrew: On top of that

Rose, that's Exactly.

922

:

where I recognized him from.

923

:

Katie: Exactly.

924

:

So the actor who plays

him, he's super sleazy.

925

:

He's like

926

:

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

927

:

Katie: of the sleazy, like shyster, Ugh.

928

:

His name is John Goetz and yes,

he plays basically the same role

929

:

in Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's

Dead Rose's sleazy boyfriend, right?

930

:

Andrew: Yep.

931

:

Katie: Yep.

932

:

Andrew: It's just a little bit more,

say hoity-toity in a way where he

933

:

thinks he's better than everybody.

934

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

935

:

Mm-hmm.

936

:

I did watch the TV show Bosch.

937

:

But it's been a while.

938

:

I did see also that he plays a

character named Bradley Walker.

939

:

Interesting.

940

:

Another walker in 13 episodes.

941

:

So Bosch fans out there, tell me who

that is again, what character he played.

942

:

Andrew: I've never even watched that

show either, so I just remember him

943

:

from Don't Tell Mom the babysitter's

dad because the, I think I don't know

944

:

if you don't mind me jumping ahead.

945

:

the one thing that got me when I

did rewatch this when I rewatched it

946

:

from my episode that I never, never

dawned on me as a kid is the drifter.

947

:

That's kind of does, I don't want

to get too much, but the drifter

948

:

Katie: ahead.

949

:

Andrew: is that steals curly

soo ring and pawns it for money

950

:

is the guy from home alone.

951

:

He's the gangster from, what is it?

952

:

What is that movie, called?

953

:

Hell, hell's Angels or

something like that, or,

954

:

Katie: It's like not a real movie, but

955

:

Andrew: yes.

956

:

Katie: Oh

957

:

Ralph Foodie is his name

958

:

Andrew: Yep.

959

:

Katie: The line he says

is, keep the change.

960

:

You have filthy animal.

961

:

Andrew: Yeah, because I always, so we

use a lot of like racks and stuff at

962

:

work to move like a lot of large parts.

963

:

And one of the legs were bent and

I called it Little Mo and nobody

964

:

was picking up on the reference.

965

:

'cause all I could think

about is home alone too.

966

:

When he is like, you're

smooching everybody.

967

:

You live in little, our

little mo with the gimpy leg.

968

:

So

969

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

970

:

That's a deep cut there.

971

:

Andrew: yeah,

972

:

Katie: but yeah, that is him.

973

:

Andrew: it's called

Angels with filthy souls.

974

:

Katie: Yep.

975

:

And

976

:

Andrew: what it,

977

:

Katie: that it's not a real movie.

978

:

Andrew: yeah.

979

:

Katie: That's amazing.

980

:

So Bill has a friend named

Albert and the actor's name, I've

981

:

never heard of this name before.

982

:

Branscombe.

983

:

Have you heard that name before?

984

:

Andrew: No.

985

:

Katie: Or Branscombe.

986

:

Branscombe.

987

:

I'm not entirely sure how to pronounce

it, but Branscombe Richmond is his name.

988

:

Andrew: Yeah.

989

:

Katie: He's a, a Native American actor

and a stunt man, and also a singer.

990

:

and he's a lot of times

the bad guy on screen.

991

:

And, he's been on the receiving

end of the fists of Arnold

992

:

Schwarzenegger and Commando.

993

:

He's

994

:

Andrew: Uh,

995

:

Katie: By Carl Weathers in

996

:

Action, Jackson and Tangled with

Steven Egal and hard to kill.

997

:

And he also did the stunts

on John Carpenter's.

998

:

They, Liv.

999

:

Andrew: well, so he's been, he's not

the main villain in Commando, is he?

:

00:41:08,529 --> 00:41:09,429

Katie: Probably not.

:

00:41:09,774 --> 00:41:10,224

Andrew: Okay.

:

00:41:10,779 --> 00:41:11,649

Katie: Probably not.

:

00:41:12,924 --> 00:41:14,859

And did you recognize

Steve Corral in this?

:

00:41:15,504 --> 00:41:16,164

Andrew: Yes.

:

00:41:16,374 --> 00:41:17,034

Yes.

:

00:41:17,244 --> 00:41:22,624

'cause that was my the way that I hooked

my co-host Johnny into watching this?

:

00:41:22,684 --> 00:41:26,044

He didn't watch it as a kid, and

he's pretty much the same age as me.

:

00:41:26,884 --> 00:41:28,954

And I was like, Steve Carell's in it.

:

00:41:28,954 --> 00:41:30,034

And he was like, oh, man.

:

00:41:30,034 --> 00:41:31,354

I was like, it's first film.

:

00:41:31,624 --> 00:41:34,474

And then he watched it and he was

like, he's in it for like two seconds.

:

00:41:34,729 --> 00:41:35,659

Katie: Literally,

:

00:41:36,124 --> 00:41:36,604

Andrew: I'm like, well,

:

00:41:36,949 --> 00:41:37,699

Katie: at the restaurant or

:

00:41:37,759 --> 00:41:38,049

Andrew: yeah,

:

00:41:38,269 --> 00:41:39,109

Katie: like that, right?

:

00:41:39,539 --> 00:41:39,959

Andrew: Tessio.

:

00:41:40,429 --> 00:41:40,969

Katie: Yes.

:

00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:41,509

He, yeah.

:

00:41:41,509 --> 00:41:42,979

He has a name at least.

:

00:41:42,979 --> 00:41:43,339

Yeah.

:

00:41:44,369 --> 00:41:48,189

Also at that restaurant, the maitre

d it's a very fancy rest restaurant.

:

00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:50,589

The maitre d is played by Cameron Thor.

:

00:41:51,032 --> 00:41:55,652

He's known for his movies, Jurassic Park

and Hook and Clear and Present Danger.

:

00:41:56,042 --> 00:41:56,192

And

:

00:41:58,262 --> 00:41:59,972

he's a convicted sex offender.

:

00:41:59,972 --> 00:42:00,182

So

:

00:42:00,527 --> 00:42:01,247

Andrew: Oh,

:

00:42:01,382 --> 00:42:02,192

Katie: clear of

:

00:42:02,192 --> 00:42:03,572

Cameron Thor?

:

00:42:04,277 --> 00:42:06,197

Andrew: so he's a great

all around guy then.

:

00:42:06,512 --> 00:42:07,292

Katie: Super.

:

00:42:07,547 --> 00:42:08,027

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:42:08,447 --> 00:42:10,007

Well that was like uh,

:

00:42:10,997 --> 00:42:14,117

I, the principal from Yeah.

:

00:42:14,297 --> 00:42:14,747

That

:

00:42:16,247 --> 00:42:17,507

I was like, oh my goodness.

:

00:42:17,582 --> 00:42:18,272

Katie: John Hughes.

:

00:42:18,272 --> 00:42:19,022

What are you doing?

:

00:42:19,217 --> 00:42:19,457

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:42:19,532 --> 00:42:20,192

Katie: these people?

:

00:42:20,792 --> 00:42:21,002

What's

:

00:42:21,002 --> 00:42:21,692

happening?

:

00:42:23,642 --> 00:42:26,882

Andrew: Can separate the art from the,

or the art from the artist, I guess,

:

00:42:27,437 --> 00:42:32,027

Katie: I guess, so there's a few

smaller parts I wanted to bring up.

:

00:42:32,077 --> 00:42:35,707

Gray's assistant or colleague or

something her name is Annais, but

:

00:42:35,707 --> 00:42:41,121

she's played by Gail Boggs and she

was a regular in this drama that

:

00:42:41,121 --> 00:42:43,371

I've never heard of called Bronx Zoo.

:

00:42:44,151 --> 00:42:44,331

And

:

00:42:44,376 --> 00:42:44,596

Andrew: Aye.

:

00:42:45,081 --> 00:42:45,621

Katie: we

:

00:42:45,671 --> 00:42:49,601

we covered Ghost last season and

she plays O MA's sister in that, but

:

00:42:49,691 --> 00:42:49,811

Andrew: Well,

:

00:42:49,961 --> 00:42:51,071

Katie: really a whole lot else.

:

00:42:51,971 --> 00:42:56,351

And Vivica Davis plays

Trina the housekeeper.

:

00:42:56,557 --> 00:42:57,907

Andrew: that's the most interesting

:

00:42:58,297 --> 00:42:59,407

part of the movie.

:

00:42:59,737 --> 00:43:06,377

That whole sequence is when she comes,

in and she doesn't know bills in the bed

:

00:43:06,872 --> 00:43:07,092

Katie: Mm.

:

00:43:07,427 --> 00:43:09,227

Andrew: and he kind of just.

:

00:43:10,127 --> 00:43:15,107

Watches instead of saying, Hey, I am,

:

00:43:16,007 --> 00:43:16,937

I'm here.

:

00:43:17,327 --> 00:43:19,997

Katie: She like changes

into a maid's uniform, which

:

00:43:20,132 --> 00:43:20,612

Andrew: yes,

:

00:43:21,227 --> 00:43:21,827

Katie: right?

:

00:43:21,992 --> 00:43:23,642

Andrew: with her munchkins too.

:

00:43:25,202 --> 00:43:29,192

And he like watches her through

like the crack door of the bathroom.

:

00:43:29,192 --> 00:43:32,032

And I'm thinking to myself, wouldn't

you have said, Hey, I'm here.

:

00:43:32,032 --> 00:43:35,902

And then they end up becoming

friends, like playing poker and stuff.

:

00:43:35,902 --> 00:43:38,842

And I'm like, wouldn't that

weird you out in a minute?

:

00:43:38,842 --> 00:43:44,122

Like, why don't you definitely wanna

check out this guy and everything else?

:

00:43:44,122 --> 00:43:44,332

And

:

00:43:45,247 --> 00:43:47,377

Katie: Well, I mean, I

wouldn't have brought him to

:

00:43:47,377 --> 00:43:49,087

my fancy apartment in the first

:

00:43:49,312 --> 00:43:50,002

Andrew: that was,

:

00:43:50,227 --> 00:43:51,247

Katie: that we need to, you

:

00:43:51,247 --> 00:43:51,667

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:43:51,687 --> 00:43:52,317

Katie: With the flow,

:

00:43:52,572 --> 00:43:56,022

Andrew: there's a lot to unpack in this

when you, when you're not watching it.

:

00:43:56,022 --> 00:43:59,232

As a kid, I feel when it

came to a lot of this stuff.

:

00:43:59,682 --> 00:44:02,172

Katie: Definitely I almost died though.

:

00:44:02,172 --> 00:44:04,422

I wouldn't have a lot of these

smaller characters I probably

:

00:44:04,422 --> 00:44:05,952

wouldn't have even thought much of.

:

00:44:05,952 --> 00:44:11,412

But when I do the research for the show,

sometimes I come across some effing gems.

:

00:44:11,412 --> 00:44:15,672

And this is one, I can't believe I

randomly found this, but this Vivica Davis

:

00:44:16,092 --> 00:44:21,462

played one of the main characters in a

movie that I grew up absolutely adoring.

:

00:44:21,672 --> 00:44:27,262

We had it taped on VVHS and I've literally

tried to find it, but I can't find it.

:

00:44:27,262 --> 00:44:30,412

And I think the reason I can't find

it is because I did not realize

:

00:44:30,682 --> 00:44:32,182

that it was a made for TV movie.

:

00:44:32,827 --> 00:44:33,047

Andrew: Oh,

:

00:44:33,052 --> 00:44:34,642

Katie: Um, Have you

:

00:44:34,642 --> 00:44:41,632

seen or even heard of Andrew or

steners student exchange from:

:

00:44:41,932 --> 00:44:42,412

Andrew: No.

:

00:44:42,592 --> 00:44:42,892

Katie: She

:

00:44:42,892 --> 00:44:43,852

plays the girl.

:

00:44:43,852 --> 00:44:47,272

So it's like best friends, a girl and

a guy that are dorks in their high

:

00:44:47,272 --> 00:44:53,272

school and they come up with this plan

to pretend that they're the student

:

00:44:53,272 --> 00:44:56,812

exchange students, one from France

and one from Italy, and then all of

:

00:44:56,812 --> 00:44:58,342

a sudden they become super popular.

:

00:44:59,092 --> 00:45:02,232

and there's like a, like the,

there's a really incredible cast.

:

00:45:02,232 --> 00:45:04,992

If you look up the cast for

this, you should there's like

:

00:45:04,992 --> 00:45:06,222

a ton of famous people in it.

:

00:45:06,252 --> 00:45:10,812

Anyway, she plays Carol, AKA

Simone, who's like the French.

:

00:45:11,172 --> 00:45:12,072

It's so good.

:

00:45:12,102 --> 00:45:16,212

Please, somebody tell me you've seen

this, I will somehow find it and cover

:

00:45:16,212 --> 00:45:17,982

it on a future retro made episode.

:

00:45:18,462 --> 00:45:22,182

Andrew: Yeah, I, I thought you were gonna

give me the com most plot to what is that?

:

00:45:22,182 --> 00:45:23,292

Just one of the guys,

:

00:45:25,422 --> 00:45:25,632

Katie: It

:

00:45:25,782 --> 00:45:26,742

Andrew: is another movie.

:

00:45:26,922 --> 00:45:30,012

Not too many of my friends have ever

seen, and I'm pretty shocked by that.

:

00:45:30,012 --> 00:45:30,582

I'm like, how?

:

00:45:30,582 --> 00:45:32,232

Have you never seen just one of the guys?

:

00:45:34,002 --> 00:45:37,602

Katie: I think I've only seen it once, so

I don't really remember a ton from it, but

:

00:45:37,812 --> 00:45:38,592

Andrew: Oh, it's.

:

00:45:39,792 --> 00:45:41,922

I don't think it's a movie that

you could make today in a way,

:

00:45:42,747 --> 00:45:43,347

Katie: no.

:

00:45:43,587 --> 00:45:43,917

There's a

:

00:45:44,082 --> 00:45:45,012

Andrew: like a lot of, yeah.

:

00:45:45,237 --> 00:45:45,717

Katie: yeah.

:

00:45:46,317 --> 00:45:47,217

Absolutely not.

:

00:45:47,292 --> 00:45:48,312

Andrew: Monster Squad.

:

00:45:48,312 --> 00:45:54,852

I, my eyes got real big as they threw

out sexual slurs at the kid, like

:

00:45:54,852 --> 00:45:56,322

in the first five minutes of it.

:

00:45:56,322 --> 00:45:57,312

I'm like whoa,

:

00:45:58,002 --> 00:45:59,412

is that how we were back then?

:

00:45:59,757 --> 00:46:00,387

Katie: It, yeah.

:

00:46:00,387 --> 00:46:01,012

Sounds like it.

:

00:46:01,107 --> 00:46:04,167

There's so much, it's, I think I

talked about it in another episode.

:

00:46:04,167 --> 00:46:09,837

It was like things that were so

present in our vernacular we didn't

:

00:46:09,837 --> 00:46:11,757

think twice about saying something.

:

00:46:11,757 --> 00:46:15,507

And once it's gone from your

vernacular for so long, the, and

:

00:46:15,507 --> 00:46:16,557

then you hear It again, you're like,

:

00:46:16,632 --> 00:46:16,842

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:46:17,787 --> 00:46:18,597

Katie: what did you Just

:

00:46:18,597 --> 00:46:19,197

say?

:

00:46:19,647 --> 00:46:20,187

You know?

:

00:46:20,772 --> 00:46:22,182

Andrew: It's very interesting in that way.

:

00:46:23,017 --> 00:46:25,807

Katie: Did you also

see that Ededie mcclar.

:

00:46:26,122 --> 00:46:28,642

Plays the secretary and she is

:

00:46:28,642 --> 00:46:33,722

the redhead that always plays some small

part like this in a John Hughes movie.

:

00:46:33,952 --> 00:46:37,132

It's always a delight to see

who Edie McClure is gonna play.

:

00:46:37,777 --> 00:46:42,337

Andrew: He definitely has his lineup that

he likes to go with on all of his movies.

:

00:46:42,337 --> 00:46:45,817

And you know, if you're winning with

a lineup, you gotta keep it that way.

:

00:46:46,492 --> 00:46:47,152

Katie: Indeed.

:

00:46:48,202 --> 00:46:54,442

the music, I don't know if you took note

of this, the reason that I wanna bring him

:

00:46:54,442 --> 00:46:59,742

up, I'm probably not saying it correctly,

Georgia, he's a French composer.

:

00:47:00,747 --> 00:47:03,927

350 scores for movies and TV.

:

00:47:04,407 --> 00:47:08,597

And talked about him last season

because he did the music for

:

00:47:08,597 --> 00:47:11,357

Silkwood with Kurt Russell.

:

00:47:11,517 --> 00:47:12,357

Have you seen Silkwood?

:

00:47:12,357 --> 00:47:12,747

A lot of people

:

00:47:12,747 --> 00:47:13,437

Andrew: I've never seen

:

00:47:13,827 --> 00:47:14,127

silk.

:

00:47:14,427 --> 00:47:14,847

Katie: good.

:

00:47:14,847 --> 00:47:15,237

it's

:

00:47:15,237 --> 00:47:19,407

It's based on a true story and it's

also got Meryl Streep and Cher in it.

:

00:47:19,857 --> 00:47:20,457

Andrew: Oh, okay.

:

00:47:20,547 --> 00:47:26,457

So that's actually a, shock that

I've not seen that 'cause my, I've

:

00:47:26,457 --> 00:47:28,797

watched mermaids multiple times,

:

00:47:29,517 --> 00:47:29,907

so

:

00:47:29,937 --> 00:47:30,747

Katie: highly recommend it

:

00:47:30,757 --> 00:47:31,627

give it a watch.

:

00:47:31,627 --> 00:47:32,497

It's super good.

:

00:47:33,037 --> 00:47:36,127

I did see that Alison Porter won

an award for this movie, though.

:

00:47:36,157 --> 00:47:41,077

Young Artist Award for best young

actress starring a movie, which is

:

00:47:41,077 --> 00:47:45,127

interesting 'cause she didn't do

anything else really until the voice.

:

00:47:46,417 --> 00:47:50,347

Andrew: no, she, she kind of

fell off, which is weird because

:

00:47:50,347 --> 00:47:55,717

normally, like back then, 'cause

McCulley, Culkin got real big.

:

00:47:56,437 --> 00:48:00,247

I mean, even his, well you could

probably say his little brother now I

:

00:48:00,247 --> 00:48:03,127

surpassed him and in roles and that.

:

00:48:03,397 --> 00:48:06,757

but even he started off in a lot of

these movies and then you figured.

:

00:48:07,402 --> 00:48:10,822

Somebody like Curly Sue, I wonder

if, because it wasn't as bus big as

:

00:48:10,822 --> 00:48:16,012

a success as it was Why that young

child actor thing kind of ended.

:

00:48:16,012 --> 00:48:18,832

'cause like Emmanuel Lewis wasn't

even supposed to be in Webster,

:

00:48:19,402 --> 00:48:21,532

but because they saw him in the

Burger King commercial, they

:

00:48:21,532 --> 00:48:23,212

were like, we're gonna put him.

:

00:48:23,422 --> 00:48:24,202

You didn't know that.

:

00:48:24,427 --> 00:48:25,387

Katie: I didn't know that.

:

00:48:25,552 --> 00:48:29,692

Andrew: So that's why the theme

song is called Then Came You.

:

00:48:30,307 --> 00:48:37,687

It was only supposed to be about George

Papadopoulos and his new socialite wife.

:

00:48:37,687 --> 00:48:41,257

And it was supposed to be like an odd

couple thing, like the ex-football player

:

00:48:42,177 --> 00:48:43,287

With the socialite.

:

00:48:43,977 --> 00:48:49,287

And then they saw Emanuel Lewis in

a, in the Burger King commercial.

:

00:48:49,287 --> 00:48:52,257

And they were like, yep, we're

gonna put you in the show.

:

00:48:52,557 --> 00:48:54,087

And they completely reworked it.

:

00:48:54,087 --> 00:48:58,677

So a lot, they were not too happy

that they reworked their show

:

00:48:58,977 --> 00:48:59,907

Katie: I bet not.

:

00:49:00,027 --> 00:49:01,797

Andrew: put Emanuel Lewis in there.

:

00:49:01,887 --> 00:49:02,877

So he was not even.

:

00:49:02,907 --> 00:49:03,627

Katie: of the show.

:

00:49:04,212 --> 00:49:07,662

Andrew: And he was not even supposed to be

in it like it was supposed to be called.

:

00:49:07,662 --> 00:49:09,912

Then came you like in the theme song?

:

00:49:11,517 --> 00:49:15,207

Katie: But then after that show,

did he do anything after that?

:

00:49:15,342 --> 00:49:15,762

Andrew: Nope.

:

00:49:16,887 --> 00:49:18,027

Katie: it's it is wild.

:

00:49:18,192 --> 00:49:18,492

Andrew: It's a

:

00:49:18,627 --> 00:49:18,897

Katie: I think

:

00:49:18,972 --> 00:49:20,202

Andrew: Gary Coleman too,

:

00:49:20,307 --> 00:49:20,877

Do anything.

:

00:49:22,042 --> 00:49:26,247

It's that kid thing where she,

she pretty much did this and

:

00:49:26,247 --> 00:49:27,987

it really did nothing after it.

:

00:49:28,272 --> 00:49:30,702

Katie: She had a unique look

to her too, you know, like,

:

00:49:30,702 --> 00:49:33,792

the big brown eyes and the curly hair.

:

00:49:33,792 --> 00:49:34,932

I mean, she was very cute.

:

00:49:34,932 --> 00:49:36,372

So I don't, and she was good.

:

00:49:36,597 --> 00:49:36,927

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:49:37,092 --> 00:49:41,292

Katie: I don't, tend to like child

actors, but I thought she was very good.

:

00:49:41,817 --> 00:49:45,467

Andrew: See I have a friend that hates

movies where the children are the heroes.

:

00:49:46,517 --> 00:49:50,867

So I always laugh like he doesn't

like the Goonies, and stuff like that.

:

00:49:50,927 --> 00:49:51,257

He's,

:

00:49:51,547 --> 00:49:51,767

Katie: Oh,

:

00:49:51,917 --> 00:49:56,227

Andrew: he, he's, he's older than me,

but he he like hates the Goonies and

:

00:49:56,227 --> 00:49:58,957

he was a big Star Wars fan and they

came out with a new show on Disney

:

00:49:58,957 --> 00:50:03,697

Plus called Re and there's about kids

saving pretty much like their planet.

:

00:50:03,697 --> 00:50:05,377

And I was like, yeah,

he's gonna hate this.

:

00:50:06,067 --> 00:50:07,777

He is gonna hate this so much.

:

00:50:08,377 --> 00:50:08,587

But

:

00:50:09,652 --> 00:50:13,092

Katie: I do like the Goonies, but I

think it was because in the Goonies,

:

00:50:13,092 --> 00:50:15,117

you feel like you're one of the kids.

:

00:50:15,117 --> 00:50:15,462

Like it's a

:

00:50:15,777 --> 00:50:16,287

Andrew: yes,

:

00:50:16,302 --> 00:50:17,442

Katie: whole, movie is

:

00:50:17,502 --> 00:50:17,952

kids.

:

00:50:17,952 --> 00:50:18,342

Really?

:

00:50:18,342 --> 00:50:18,732

Yeah.

:

00:50:19,767 --> 00:50:22,617

Andrew: I think that was the

charm of this as a kid is because.

:

00:50:23,262 --> 00:50:29,712

Curly Sue, the actress was just so great

in it that she was funny, charming,

:

00:50:29,742 --> 00:50:31,512

witty with a lot of different things.

:

00:50:31,512 --> 00:50:35,112

And then they threw you a lot of curve

balls, even why she was named Curly Sue.

:

00:50:35,297 --> 00:50:39,252

'cause you, you do look at her and you're

like, oh, her name is Curly Sue because

:

00:50:39,252 --> 00:50:41,082

you know, she's got all that curly hair.

:

00:50:41,082 --> 00:50:44,452

And then come to find out that

she was named after named Curly

:

00:50:44,452 --> 00:50:46,102

Sue after one of the Stooges.

:

00:50:46,132 --> 00:50:51,142

'cause one of the guys that they were

traveling with for the summer thought she

:

00:50:51,142 --> 00:50:56,212

looked like curly from the three Stooges,

which I, would've not have traveled with

:

00:50:56,212 --> 00:50:58,102

them anymore even if I, was homeless.

:

00:50:58,537 --> 00:50:59,227

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:50:59,312 --> 00:51:03,787

I, I, well, homeless culture

is, is really on display

:

00:51:04,207 --> 00:51:04,427

Andrew: Yes.

:

00:51:04,627 --> 00:51:06,847

Katie: in a, is like romanticizing it

:

00:51:07,342 --> 00:51:07,792

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:51:07,987 --> 00:51:08,497

Katie: movie.

:

00:51:08,837 --> 00:51:12,527

Which we'll get into just

really quickly, the budget here,

:

00:51:12,587 --> 00:51:15,315

25 million box office, 33.7

:

00:51:15,315 --> 00:51:16,182

million.

:

00:51:16,412 --> 00:51:16,982

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:51:17,162 --> 00:51:18,932

I think that's what kind

of killed her on it.

:

00:51:19,772 --> 00:51:20,192

Katie: I mean, It

:

00:51:20,192 --> 00:51:20,762

made money.

:

00:51:20,762 --> 00:51:24,302

It just wasn't like a giant success.

:

00:51:24,462 --> 00:51:27,672

And I, I think there were a lot

of missed opportunities as well.

:

00:51:27,952 --> 00:51:29,782

It sounds like you grew up watching this

:

00:51:30,022 --> 00:51:30,472

Andrew: Yes.

:

00:51:30,562 --> 00:51:31,912

Katie: your history with Curly Sue?

:

00:51:32,272 --> 00:51:34,822

Andrew: So like I said, it was

what I call a Cheater Box movie.

:

00:51:34,852 --> 00:51:36,502

'cause my dad had a cheater box.

:

00:51:36,562 --> 00:51:38,922

So I live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

:

00:51:38,922 --> 00:51:42,712

I grew up in Niagara Falls, New York,

:

00:51:43,342 --> 00:51:43,972

Katie: Okay.

:

00:51:44,122 --> 00:51:48,532

Andrew: so pretty much you don't

go outside too much in the winter.

:

00:51:48,562 --> 00:51:52,027

So I watched a lot of movies

and that kind of helped out.

:

00:51:52,027 --> 00:51:54,912

So I watched this a lot as a kid

and then all of a sudden as I got

:

00:51:54,912 --> 00:51:56,892

older was movie on the back burner.

:

00:51:57,312 --> 00:52:00,402

I think I watched it once with

my kids when they were younger,

:

00:52:00,762 --> 00:52:02,262

and then I just reviewed it.

:

00:52:02,502 --> 00:52:04,092

I wanna say a couple months ago.

:

00:52:04,362 --> 00:52:06,212

And then I watched it again for this.

:

00:52:06,212 --> 00:52:07,262

So that's pretty much it.

:

00:52:07,262 --> 00:52:09,842

It's, it's a movie I tell people to watch.

:

00:52:10,212 --> 00:52:12,732

Like my daughter's boyfriend

when we were on vacation, I

:

00:52:12,732 --> 00:52:14,322

was like, Hey, watch Curly Sue.

:

00:52:14,322 --> 00:52:16,992

And I think he sat down

and watched some of it?

:

00:52:16,992 --> 00:52:18,402

but I think he turned it off.

:

00:52:18,432 --> 00:52:20,697

'cause it's I mean he's

like 20 years old so he is.

:

00:52:20,697 --> 00:52:24,597

not really gonna be too much into, I,

think it was one of those things, like

:

00:52:24,627 --> 00:52:29,607

my girlfriend's dad told me to watch it,

so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, please

:

00:52:29,607 --> 00:52:31,647

him and just turn it on for a little bit.

:

00:52:31,767 --> 00:52:33,207

I think that's the way it was.

:

00:52:33,747 --> 00:52:34,137

Katie: Well, when

:

00:52:34,152 --> 00:52:34,442

Andrew: They

:

00:52:34,647 --> 00:52:36,087

Katie: it when your

kids were younger, what

:

00:52:36,087 --> 00:52:36,327

did They

:

00:52:36,327 --> 00:52:37,017

think of it?

:

00:52:37,737 --> 00:52:38,337

Andrew: enjoyed it.

:

00:52:38,517 --> 00:52:39,177

They enjoyed it.

:

00:52:39,477 --> 00:52:43,152

They thought it was, you know,

a good like family movie.

:

00:52:43,152 --> 00:52:44,352

They thought it was funny, silly.

:

00:52:44,402 --> 00:52:47,822

They liked Curly Sue and all of her

antics and everything like that.

:

00:52:48,632 --> 00:52:49,082

'cause she's.

:

00:52:49,547 --> 00:52:51,407

Pretty much a mini adult in this.

:

00:52:51,467 --> 00:52:54,797

And that's one thing as a kid you're

watching and you're like wow, look

:

00:52:54,797 --> 00:52:56,507

at all this cool stuff she's doing.

:

00:52:56,507 --> 00:53:01,457

She's playing poker, she's running like

these little scams and stuff like that.

:

00:53:01,487 --> 00:53:03,167

She's funny and everything else.

:

00:53:03,167 --> 00:53:06,037

So you're like, wow, this

is pretty, pretty great.

:

00:53:06,037 --> 00:53:06,997

So they enjoyed it.

:

00:53:07,057 --> 00:53:10,237

I don't think they enjoyed as much as

the other stuff I've showed them, but

:

00:53:10,672 --> 00:53:10,962

Katie: Okay.

:

00:53:11,347 --> 00:53:12,817

Andrew: I, they sat through it.

:

00:53:12,997 --> 00:53:15,097

So that was an accomplishment

'cause we watched.

:

00:53:15,337 --> 00:53:18,367

Katie: I, yeah, I think like it's

just like a different world for

:

00:53:18,367 --> 00:53:20,077

kids in movies now, so I think

:

00:53:20,197 --> 00:53:20,497

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:53:21,097 --> 00:53:25,607

Have you I have you noticed that

movies have gotten longer, and songs

:

00:53:25,607 --> 00:53:30,347

have gotten shorter or I people

think I'm crazy when I say this.

:

00:53:30,777 --> 00:53:32,277

I remember growing up.

:

00:53:32,742 --> 00:53:35,652

Katie: gotten longer, like 90

minutes used to be kind of the mark.

:

00:53:36,027 --> 00:53:36,537

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:53:36,537 --> 00:53:41,277

And then like you could have a five

minute song or like Guns N Roses.

:

00:53:41,277 --> 00:53:43,437

I think November rains almost about eight.

:

00:53:44,037 --> 00:53:45,057

And now my kids.

:

00:53:45,072 --> 00:53:46,452

Katie: is like 11 or something.

:

00:53:46,452 --> 00:53:46,812

Yeah.

:

00:53:47,157 --> 00:53:47,667

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:53:47,967 --> 00:53:50,457

And now my kids listen to these

songs and they're like done in two

:

00:53:50,457 --> 00:53:53,847

minutes, but then they're like,

Hey, watch this movie with me.

:

00:53:53,847 --> 00:53:59,487

And I'm sitting there for three hours

and I'm like, did songs get shorter?

:

00:53:59,937 --> 00:54:01,677

And movies just get longer.

:

00:54:01,917 --> 00:54:03,537

Katie: That's a interesting point.

:

00:54:03,587 --> 00:54:06,107

I have to think more about a bit.

:

00:54:06,107 --> 00:54:09,387

Some songs, I'm wondering

if a lot of things, fashion

:

00:54:09,387 --> 00:54:11,547

included, there's like a cycle.

:

00:54:11,547 --> 00:54:16,227

So now I'm wondering if way

back in the day, I feel like

:

00:54:16,227 --> 00:54:17,907

movies were very long like

:

00:54:17,922 --> 00:54:18,222

Andrew: yeah.

:

00:54:18,237 --> 00:54:19,677

Katie: of Arabia and like The

:

00:54:19,677 --> 00:54:20,697

Godfather, you know,

:

00:54:20,742 --> 00:54:22,422

Andrew: Gone With the Wind is

:

00:54:22,497 --> 00:54:23,097

Katie: So,

:

00:54:23,292 --> 00:54:23,622

Andrew: long.

:

00:54:23,817 --> 00:54:24,477

Katie: so that.

:

00:54:25,347 --> 00:54:28,407

Then they got shorter and

now they're getting longer.

:

00:54:28,407 --> 00:54:31,197

And similar with songs

from back in the day.

:

00:54:31,197 --> 00:54:33,057

Used to be like a minute, like really

:

00:54:33,087 --> 00:54:33,377

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:54:33,897 --> 00:54:34,647

Katie: bebop,

:

00:54:35,047 --> 00:54:38,007

Doop like I dunno, there's like oldies.

:

00:54:38,007 --> 00:54:40,347

I feel like a lot of songs

Are very short and then

:

00:54:40,392 --> 00:54:40,752

Andrew: Okay.

:

00:54:40,752 --> 00:54:41,202

Yeah.

:

00:54:41,277 --> 00:54:41,997

Katie: and now they're getting short.

:

00:54:41,997 --> 00:54:42,237

So I

:

00:54:42,237 --> 00:54:44,487

feel like it's just kind of

a cycle that's happening.

:

00:54:44,517 --> 00:54:45,657

you bring up a good point though.

:

00:54:46,197 --> 00:54:48,537

Andrew: I try not to listen to new music.

:

00:54:48,537 --> 00:54:51,897

So, and they don't like, they

don't like what I listen to.

:

00:54:51,927 --> 00:54:54,537

'cause I'm like listen to the

guitar, solo and stuff like that.

:

00:54:54,537 --> 00:54:56,367

Really take everything in, so.

:

00:54:56,457 --> 00:54:57,387

Katie: inevitable.

:

00:54:57,597 --> 00:55:01,527

I feel like kids and their parents,

although I feel like in some ways,

:

00:55:01,527 --> 00:55:04,737

like I love the Rolling Stones

because I grew up listening to it.

:

00:55:04,737 --> 00:55:04,857

'cause

:

00:55:04,962 --> 00:55:05,382

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

:

00:55:05,577 --> 00:55:05,967

Katie: them.

:

00:55:06,787 --> 00:55:10,657

And I don't know if I would, I, I mean

I think objectively they're awesome, so

:

00:55:10,722 --> 00:55:11,012

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:55:11,077 --> 00:55:12,097

Katie: would've anyway, but

:

00:55:12,147 --> 00:55:12,687

kind of normal.

:

00:55:12,687 --> 00:55:14,607

Kids don't like what their

parents like and vice versa.

:

00:55:15,292 --> 00:55:15,582

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:55:17,637 --> 00:55:19,857

Katie: Yeah, I mean I

think this is a very cute.

:

00:55:20,772 --> 00:55:21,972

Easy to watch movie.

:

00:55:21,972 --> 00:55:23,322

Like you don't have to think too much.

:

00:55:23,322 --> 00:55:24,672

I very much enjoyed it.

:

00:55:25,092 --> 00:55:27,582

I think it could have been better right.

:

00:55:27,612 --> 00:55:32,782

But like we open and you're like,

okay, it's like this montage of a baby.

:

00:55:33,212 --> 00:55:36,712

And gym , intermixed with luggage

and card playing and crayons

:

00:55:36,712 --> 00:55:38,272

and marbles, and then the ring.

:

00:55:38,272 --> 00:55:43,502

And then now they're hitchhiking loose

semi ice that carry a bunch of cars.

:

00:55:43,532 --> 00:55:43,772

They're

:

00:55:43,962 --> 00:55:44,252

Andrew: Yeah.

:

00:55:44,282 --> 00:55:44,792

Katie: cars.

:

00:55:44,792 --> 00:55:45,752

And so, and then

:

00:55:46,082 --> 00:55:49,082

cut to, oh, we're in Chicago,

there's a skyscraper.

:

00:55:49,082 --> 00:55:53,372

And now we meet Gray, the

super high powered attorney.

:

00:55:53,762 --> 00:55:56,882

And one of the things that I, I

wanted to get your opinion on, because

:

00:55:56,882 --> 00:56:01,412

one of the common themes that I've

noticed during the John Hughes season

:

00:56:02,252 --> 00:56:05,282

he portrays particularly women.

:

00:56:06,152 --> 00:56:12,602

Who are very career oriented and

they are single and not married

:

00:56:12,602 --> 00:56:17,852

and don't have kids, and that is

portrayed to be an in an insanely

:

00:56:17,852 --> 00:56:19,352

negative thing in all of his movies.

:

00:56:19,352 --> 00:56:21,872

Like they're, they're

mean, they're emotionless.

:

00:56:21,872 --> 00:56:25,232

They, something is clearly

missing from their life.

:

00:56:25,332 --> 00:56:25,977

I don't know,

:

00:56:26,067 --> 00:56:26,187

Andrew: I

:

00:56:26,397 --> 00:56:26,547

Katie: I

:

00:56:26,547 --> 00:56:26,787

I,

:

00:56:26,832 --> 00:56:31,332

Andrew: maybe one of the things

that he, now that you say that maybe

:

00:56:31,332 --> 00:56:36,492

that's one of the things that in the

age that he grew up around that was.

:

00:56:37,662 --> 00:56:38,802

I wanna say, when was he born?

:

00:56:38,802 --> 00:56:40,482

Like in the fifties, sixties, around.

:

00:56:41,382 --> 00:56:41,672

Katie: Yeah,

:

00:56:42,192 --> 00:56:45,732

Andrew: Yeah, so that was probably

not, I think that's probably

:

00:56:45,732 --> 00:56:47,112

one of the things that he saw.

:

00:56:47,112 --> 00:56:49,332

And back then, I

:

00:56:49,332 --> 00:56:50,922

mean that was, it was horrible.

:

00:56:50,922 --> 00:56:54,852

A woman with a, with a career and

you're single and you're not married.

:

00:56:54,852 --> 00:57:01,632

And I think that kind of hands over

into a lot of where that norm is, is

:

00:57:01,632 --> 00:57:07,872

changed where you can be a successful

woman and not be married and not have

:

00:57:07,872 --> 00:57:10,482

kids 'cause you're more career oriented.

:

00:57:10,482 --> 00:57:13,452

Or even if you do, it's

okay to be a career woman.

:

00:57:13,452 --> 00:57:17,472

like how, I think back then it was

a lot of things where, how dare you,

:

00:57:17,787 --> 00:57:18,207

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:57:18,742 --> 00:57:20,962

Andrew: You know, not stay

at home with the kids.

:

00:57:20,962 --> 00:57:26,842

I know my grandmother worked on,

worked the line at GM and my mother

:

00:57:26,842 --> 00:57:31,272

told me that they would, the men would

pull horrible pranks on her because

:

00:57:31,272 --> 00:57:33,132

she was a woman working the line.

:

00:57:34,242 --> 00:57:35,802

Doing things of that nature.

:

00:57:35,802 --> 00:57:40,032

And they, they didn't like the fact that

she was doing that and everything else.

:

00:57:40,032 --> 00:57:45,372

So I could kind of see in how that

generation, if you grew up in that

:

00:57:45,372 --> 00:57:50,982

generation, how you would actually

portray women in that case, in that,

:

00:57:51,102 --> 00:57:55,612

you know, you can't you can be that

way, but you need you, you need a child,

:

00:57:55,612 --> 00:57:57,232

you need a husband, you need something.

:

00:57:57,232 --> 00:57:59,182

You can't just be happy by yourself.

:

00:57:59,482 --> 00:58:02,962

It's okay for a man to do that,

but it's not okay for a woman.

:

00:58:03,112 --> 00:58:05,902

And I think that's where that comes from.

:

00:58:05,902 --> 00:58:10,882

Where now the norm is changing

into, you know, it's okay.

:

00:58:10,912 --> 00:58:13,642

You, you do you we'll say now.

:

00:58:13,972 --> 00:58:15,892

But I think that's the way it was,

:

00:58:16,042 --> 00:58:17,662

Katie: I think you bring

up a really good point.

:

00:58:18,182 --> 00:58:20,162

It's just, and I have

a heightened awareness.

:

00:58:20,657 --> 00:58:26,657

To this particular issue because I am not

married and don't have kids, and this is

:

00:58:26,657 --> 00:58:30,497

like the fifth time that I've noticed it

in a John Hughes movie where it's like

:

00:58:30,497 --> 00:58:33,587

the evil single career oriented woman.

:

00:58:33,677 --> 00:58:35,792

And I'm like, geez, what's

your deal, John Hughes?

:

00:58:37,082 --> 00:58:40,532

Andrew: I think it's just that, I just

hear about the stories like my mother

:

00:58:40,532 --> 00:58:47,072

would tell me 'cause my grandmother

left my mother's, father at one point

:

00:58:47,072 --> 00:58:49,982

and she would say that, you know,

my grandmother would have to lie and

:

00:58:49,982 --> 00:58:54,842

say her husband was in the army just

to get, just to get an apartment

:

00:58:55,502 --> 00:58:56,042

Katie: oh.

:

00:58:56,102 --> 00:58:56,732

Andrew: live in.

:

00:58:57,062 --> 00:59:01,172

So I think it's that type of

thing where you, you need a man.

:

00:59:01,472 --> 00:59:05,252

That's what it all automatically

comes down to is you, you need

:

00:59:05,252 --> 00:59:07,292

a man and you, you need one now.

:

00:59:07,322 --> 00:59:11,282

'cause that's what you're missing

is you need a man and you and you

:

00:59:11,282 --> 00:59:13,232

need a child and you just need to.

:

00:59:13,682 --> 00:59:14,132

Settle

:

00:59:14,132 --> 00:59:15,782

down to be happy.

:

00:59:16,037 --> 00:59:16,787

Katie: Your life.

:

00:59:16,997 --> 00:59:18,317

And, And we see that here.

:

00:59:18,317 --> 00:59:24,137

Her life is not complete until she gets

married to Bill And adopts curly Sue.

:

00:59:24,167 --> 00:59:25,967

And now, now she's happy.

:

00:59:27,062 --> 00:59:28,142

Andrew: Yeah, that's,

:

00:59:29,342 --> 00:59:30,542

you know, it's,

:

00:59:30,572 --> 00:59:30,772

Katie: I mean,

:

00:59:30,782 --> 00:59:31,052

Andrew: think

:

00:59:31,292 --> 00:59:31,412

Katie: I.

:

00:59:31,502 --> 00:59:33,243

Andrew: his, that's his way of saying it.

:

00:59:33,962 --> 00:59:34,262

Katie: It's,

:

00:59:34,262 --> 00:59:34,862

it's interesting.

:

00:59:34,862 --> 00:59:36,812

It's the nineties though,

but yeah, you're right.

:

00:59:36,812 --> 00:59:40,922

It wasn't that far removed from, it

was like the mid seventies before

:

00:59:41,522 --> 00:59:43,172

a woman could open a bank account.

:

00:59:43,202 --> 00:59:43,772

Right.

:

00:59:44,132 --> 00:59:44,762

Like with a

:

00:59:44,792 --> 00:59:45,542

Andrew: probably around there

:

00:59:46,052 --> 00:59:46,292

Katie: it's,

:

00:59:47,492 --> 00:59:51,032

it's like crazy how recent that kind

of stuff was, if you think about it.

:

00:59:51,422 --> 00:59:54,032

Andrew: it was huge in

the fifties when Lucy was

:

00:59:54,032 --> 00:59:54,242

on.

:

00:59:54,362 --> 00:59:54,902

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:59:55,202 --> 00:59:58,952

Andrew: pregnant Murphy Brown giving

birth was even in the nineties,

:

00:59:58,952 --> 01:00:00,632

was like, Hey, what are you doing?

:

01:00:01,322 --> 01:00:04,232

You can't be doing these

things as a woman on tv.

:

01:00:04,232 --> 01:00:05,582

I mean, how long did it take?

:

01:00:05,582 --> 01:00:08,402

Even for in the entertainment

world where you would see a married

:

01:00:08,402 --> 01:00:09,962

couple sleeping in the same bed?

:

01:00:10,952 --> 01:00:11,102

Right.

:

01:00:11,132 --> 01:00:12,422

That was like the other

:

01:00:12,642 --> 01:00:13,062

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:00:13,147 --> 01:00:14,252

Andrew: so I think that's where it

:

01:00:14,252 --> 01:00:15,482

kind of like plays into its

:

01:00:15,482 --> 01:00:15,962

writing

:

01:00:16,272 --> 01:00:17,567

Katie: Yeah, no.

:

01:00:17,567 --> 01:00:18,707

Yeah, you're probably right.

:

01:00:19,277 --> 01:00:20,762

Andrew: I don't think he's going so.

:

01:00:20,957 --> 01:00:21,617

Katie: No, I know.

:

01:00:21,617 --> 01:00:24,917

I, the, I just happen to notice

it because I'm like, and I'm not

:

01:00:24,917 --> 01:00:26,237

even like a high powered attorney.

:

01:00:26,237 --> 01:00:28,007

I'm just like, I'm good, you know?

:

01:00:30,702 --> 01:00:36,712

I also, I noted that after the, they

go to this fancy restaurant that,

:

01:00:36,712 --> 01:00:38,032

so, which is kind of a funny scene.

:

01:00:38,032 --> 01:00:42,382

Clearly they've done this before, the

ma d knows them, but they, there's

:

01:00:42,382 --> 01:00:46,162

like a distraction so that curly, so

can go get some food from the buffet.

:

01:00:47,062 --> 01:00:49,312

And then they do this car hitting scam.

:

01:00:49,772 --> 01:00:50,552

To scam.

:

01:00:50,552 --> 01:00:53,432

Kelly Lynch into thinking

that she backed over Bill.

:

01:00:54,032 --> 01:01:00,702

And they show the scene of her using a

payphone and how disgusted she is with it.

:

01:01:01,122 --> 01:01:03,252

I don't know why I, that

very much resonated with me.

:

01:01:03,282 --> 01:01:04,122

'cause that would've been the same way.

:

01:01:04,122 --> 01:01:07,872

I'm like, does anybody have a, like

a, any Purell that I can put on,

:

01:01:07,932 --> 01:01:08,022

Andrew: Oh,

:

01:01:08,862 --> 01:01:09,852

Katie: put on this phone,

:

01:01:10,482 --> 01:01:12,702

like at the jail or, I can't

remember where they were that

:

01:01:12,702 --> 01:01:13,782

she had to use a payphone.

:

01:01:13,932 --> 01:01:17,242

Andrew: the Rocky, Rocky

Fell's House of Beef.

:

01:01:17,302 --> 01:01:17,542

Katie: How?

:

01:01:17,872 --> 01:01:18,562

Yes.

:

01:01:18,562 --> 01:01:18,652

Yes.

:

01:01:18,712 --> 01:01:20,332

Andrew: That's exactly where she was.

:

01:01:20,797 --> 01:01:21,697

Katie: That's right.

:

01:01:21,697 --> 01:01:22,117

That's right.

:

01:01:22,492 --> 01:01:24,532

Andrew: Rocky Fell's House of Beef.

:

01:01:25,372 --> 01:01:26,182

I don't know why

:

01:01:26,602 --> 01:01:28,522

I remember that aspect

of the movie, but I.

:

01:01:28,747 --> 01:01:29,587

Katie: It's funny.

:

01:01:29,767 --> 01:01:30,517

It's a funny name.

:

01:01:30,517 --> 01:01:30,547

I.

:

01:01:30,847 --> 01:01:31,237

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:01:31,267 --> 01:01:35,347

'cause I would, I almost thought she

was gonna say Rocky Horrors, and I was

:

01:01:35,347 --> 01:01:38,137

like, no, it's Rocky, Rocky fellers.

:

01:01:38,137 --> 01:01:39,367

But I, I agree.

:

01:01:39,367 --> 01:01:42,637

And she's just seems very

disgusted throughout that whole

:

01:01:42,637 --> 01:01:46,237

entire thing that you know, that

they're eating and enjoying this.

:

01:01:46,702 --> 01:01:51,592

Food that she would never eat

because she would go to the, fancy

:

01:01:51,592 --> 01:01:57,052

restaurant and not get a T-bone

steak as they yell at a cross.

:

01:01:57,077 --> 01:01:57,497

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:01:57,592 --> 01:01:59,902

Andrew: it was weird that they

had steps in there, like that's

:

01:01:59,902 --> 01:02:01,942

how she went to the bathroom.

:

01:02:02,902 --> 01:02:04,162

'cause she had to go brush her teeth.

:

01:02:04,162 --> 01:02:07,162

'cause she, she did it in Detroit though.

:

01:02:07,162 --> 01:02:09,772

That was always, I noticed that

was kind of the running gag

:

01:02:09,772 --> 01:02:11,962

and everything is go do this.

:

01:02:11,962 --> 01:02:13,042

I did it in Detroit.

:

01:02:13,162 --> 01:02:15,772

Well you did it in Detroit,

you're gonna do it in Chicago.

:

01:02:17,152 --> 01:02:20,512

Everything else, but yeah, she

was, see, I don't think I would've

:

01:02:20,512 --> 01:02:24,172

mine that much with the payphone.

:

01:02:24,952 --> 01:02:28,082

'cause I think I would maybe in

that setting, I'm pretty sure

:

01:02:28,082 --> 01:02:29,282

there's a lot of grease going

:

01:02:29,282 --> 01:02:29,822

in the air.

:

01:02:29,822 --> 01:02:30,122

But

:

01:02:30,937 --> 01:02:31,357

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:02:31,357 --> 01:02:34,357

And yeah, like that type of

a place, they probably never

:

01:02:34,357 --> 01:02:35,997

clean that phone and you know,

:

01:02:36,257 --> 01:02:36,717

Andrew: no, I

:

01:02:36,867 --> 01:02:37,077

Katie: so

:

01:02:37,222 --> 01:02:38,692

Andrew: they ever cleaned that place.

:

01:02:38,907 --> 01:02:39,027

Katie: I

:

01:02:39,027 --> 01:02:41,967

think I'm a bit of a germ phobe, so

maybe that's why I was like, yeah, I

:

01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:43,767

wouldn't she was really grossed out by it.

:

01:02:44,422 --> 01:02:44,662

Andrew: I'm

:

01:02:44,702 --> 01:02:44,922

Katie: I'm

:

01:02:44,932 --> 01:02:47,182

Andrew: sure they serve the

toughest stakes possible.

:

01:02:47,182 --> 01:02:50,182

Those are not prime choice stakes either

:

01:02:50,182 --> 01:02:51,802

at Rockefeller's House of Beef.

:

01:02:52,257 --> 01:02:54,297

Katie: kind of surprised they

got steaks and not just like a

:

01:02:54,297 --> 01:02:56,067

hot dog or something, you know.

:

01:02:56,332 --> 01:02:56,722

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:02:56,722 --> 01:02:58,342

She really kind of went all out like,

:

01:02:58,382 --> 01:02:58,732

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:02:58,942 --> 01:03:00,112

Andrew: just go to McDonald's?

:

01:03:00,412 --> 01:03:01,012

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:02,652 --> 01:03:06,312

Now the ring that the guy you

mentioned the, the guy at the homeless

:

01:03:06,312 --> 01:03:08,832

shelter steals curly sue's ring.

:

01:03:08,832 --> 01:03:11,522

That, that we learn is has some meaning.

:

01:03:11,522 --> 01:03:16,082

A ring was given to her by her mother when

she was a baby, and that essentially to

:

01:03:16,082 --> 01:03:20,967

her means that you're abandoning me and

then that, that it has paid off later.

:

01:03:21,902 --> 01:03:26,042

But it was just like a

costume jewelry ring.

:

01:03:26,042 --> 01:03:29,282

Why did he even think that that

would be worth anything to steal?

:

01:03:29,522 --> 01:03:31,322

Or was that just like a plot device,

:

01:03:31,802 --> 01:03:31,922

Andrew: I

:

01:03:32,012 --> 01:03:32,312

Katie: know?

:

01:03:32,402 --> 01:03:34,052

Andrew: a, I think it was a plot device.

:

01:03:34,082 --> 01:03:37,112

'cause as a kid I was like,

oh man, he got ripped off.

:

01:03:37,112 --> 01:03:39,002

He just wants $15.

:

01:03:39,002 --> 01:03:43,352

But once again, when you watch it

as an adult, you're like, he knew

:

01:03:43,352 --> 01:03:45,152

that it wasn't worth that much.

:

01:03:46,367 --> 01:03:51,167

Then they make the pawn shop guy

like seemed kind of be like nice,

:

01:03:51,467 --> 01:03:53,207

but not nice at the same time.

:

01:03:53,257 --> 01:03:55,837

Just gonna give him this

$15 and tell him to leave.

:

01:03:55,837 --> 01:03:56,107

But if

:

01:03:56,107 --> 01:03:58,087

he doesn't leave, I'm

gonna call the cops on him.

:

01:03:58,117 --> 01:03:58,537

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:58,597 --> 01:04:02,857

Andrew: that was more of a plot

device and to say, this is your one.

:

01:04:03,997 --> 01:04:09,907

Not just sentimental valuable thing, but

your one valuable thing and it got stolen

:

01:04:10,042 --> 01:04:10,262

Katie: Mm.

:

01:04:10,602 --> 01:04:11,022

Mm-hmm.

:

01:04:11,137 --> 01:04:11,377

Andrew: guy.

:

01:04:11,377 --> 01:04:11,527

And

:

01:04:11,527 --> 01:04:12,817

how does she not feel that?

:

01:04:13,537 --> 01:04:14,137

Katie: Right.

:

01:04:14,392 --> 01:04:20,092

Andrew: Th that's where, this

is where I'm, this is, I, I feel

:

01:04:20,092 --> 01:04:23,512

this is very lazy writing through

some of this movie as I watch it.

:

01:04:23,612 --> 01:04:27,152

There's a lot of stuff where I'm,

I'm starting to question things and

:

01:04:27,152 --> 01:04:28,652

why things got left in,

:

01:04:29,372 --> 01:04:31,502

Katie: Like what, what

else got that got left in?

:

01:04:31,832 --> 01:04:34,652

Andrew: I don't know if you notice

this, and I've watched this movie.

:

01:04:34,652 --> 01:04:37,232

This is the second time probably

watching it in a couple of months and

:

01:04:37,232 --> 01:04:38,912

then watching it all the time as a kid.

:

01:04:40,202 --> 01:04:41,072

So when she

:

01:04:42,152 --> 01:04:43,322

does hit him with The car

:

01:04:44,177 --> 01:04:45,977

Katie: The next day he actually does.

:

01:04:45,977 --> 01:04:46,307

Yep.

:

01:04:46,367 --> 01:04:46,637

Yep.

:

01:04:46,682 --> 01:04:50,702

Andrew: next day, and she brings him

to the house, the doctor that is there,

:

01:04:50,792 --> 01:04:56,612

did you notice when he was le, I don't

even know why I was like even looking or

:

01:04:56,612 --> 01:05:01,382

anything, but when he's leaving, after

he gives her a kiss and says, you know,

:

01:05:01,862 --> 01:05:06,302

I'm right upstairs or down the hall or

whatever, he is like picking a wedgie.

:

01:05:07,337 --> 01:05:09,707

Like, like Go back.

:

01:05:09,707 --> 01:05:10,577

And I'm like,

:

01:05:10,637 --> 01:05:11,892

Katie: I did not notice that.

:

01:05:12,017 --> 01:05:16,277

Andrew: I never, I've watched this, I

gotta say I've watched this movie at least

:

01:05:16,277 --> 01:05:18,257

10 times, twice in the past two months.

:

01:05:18,257 --> 01:05:20,237

And that is the first time I ever seen it.

:

01:05:20,987 --> 01:05:23,867

And I'm watching him to watching,

I'm like, okay, this is where he

:

01:05:23,867 --> 01:05:27,257

says, you know, I'm right down the

hall and I'm trying to pick up on,

:

01:05:27,527 --> 01:05:29,837

I think, 'cause I was trying

to pick up on new things

:

01:05:30,012 --> 01:05:30,432

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

01:05:30,437 --> 01:05:31,007

Andrew: and.

:

01:05:32,027 --> 01:05:35,117

If I rewatch a show,

like an older show, I'll

:

01:05:35,117 --> 01:05:36,767

pay more attention to the background

:

01:05:36,971 --> 01:05:37,322

Katie: Right.

:

01:05:37,397 --> 01:05:38,207

Andrew: or something like that.

:

01:05:38,207 --> 01:05:39,587

And I think that's what I was doing here.

:

01:05:39,587 --> 01:05:42,257

But when he leaves and

she's about to close, right?

:

01:05:42,257 --> 01:05:43,727

When she's about to close the door, he is

:

01:05:43,727 --> 01:05:44,777

picking a wedgie

:

01:05:45,812 --> 01:05:46,307

Katie: I did not.

:

01:05:46,457 --> 01:05:47,537

Andrew: And I'm like, why would

:

01:05:47,537 --> 01:05:48,467

you leave that?

:

01:05:48,467 --> 01:05:48,827

Like, why

:

01:05:48,827 --> 01:05:49,547

wouldn't you just

:

01:05:49,547 --> 01:05:50,297

Katie: you're right.

:

01:05:50,507 --> 01:05:51,077

Andrew: take.

:

01:05:51,077 --> 01:05:51,977

Katie: you're right.

:

01:05:52,007 --> 01:05:54,437

Or just cut that last part out, I guess.

:

01:05:54,437 --> 01:05:54,767

Yeah.

:

01:05:54,797 --> 01:05:57,437

'cause I had, this is probably the

second time I've seen this movie.

:

01:05:57,497 --> 01:05:58,817

And the first one was 30 years ago.

:

01:05:59,477 --> 01:06:04,247

I was more like, why are you

not going to the hospital?

:

01:06:05,147 --> 01:06:09,857

With this man that you hit with your

car, he is a homeless stranger, and

:

01:06:09,857 --> 01:06:16,067

you think, oh, I have this gorgeous

three bedroom, by the way, apartment.

:

01:06:16,067 --> 01:06:20,987

She's a single person with a three bedroom

apartment in downtown Chicago and has a

:

01:06:21,377 --> 01:06:23,897

housekeeper that's wild in and of itself.

:

01:06:23,897 --> 01:06:26,747

I know that she's wealthy,

but three bedrooms

:

01:06:27,167 --> 01:06:27,677

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:06:27,917 --> 01:06:28,817

Katie: downtown Chicago.

:

01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:33,977

Then she's like, I think I just better

bring them to my house and have a

:

01:06:33,977 --> 01:06:36,377

doctor come do a house call on them.

:

01:06:36,737 --> 01:06:36,917

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:06:36,917 --> 01:06:38,177

And who, what doctor did

:

01:06:38,177 --> 01:06:39,346

a house call in the nineties?

:

01:06:40,217 --> 01:06:42,137

Katie: Unless same, I know.

:

01:06:42,287 --> 01:06:42,437

Andrew: I

:

01:06:42,497 --> 01:06:42,827

Katie: Unless.

:

01:06:43,067 --> 01:06:43,487

Andrew: was like, but.

:

01:06:44,627 --> 01:06:48,587

Katie: That's why she's like, oh, I'll

just have my neighbor who's a doctor,

:

01:06:48,587 --> 01:06:52,157

come take a look at you instead of,

maybe you need some medical attention

:

01:06:52,157 --> 01:06:57,797

at a hospital for your safety, and

B, you're a homeless stranger there.

:

01:06:57,827 --> 01:06:58,187

There is.

:

01:06:58,637 --> 01:07:01,427

Would you, in any world, you're a man.

:

01:07:01,757 --> 01:07:05,577

Even even if you didn't have a family

or anything, would you ever be like

:

01:07:05,577 --> 01:07:08,337

come, come Convalesce at my house.

:

01:07:10,002 --> 01:07:10,842

Andrew: it happened one time.

:

01:07:10,842 --> 01:07:11,471

My wife is

:

01:07:11,471 --> 01:07:13,062

a lot more trusting than I am

:

01:07:13,527 --> 01:07:13,767

Katie: I am.

:

01:07:13,767 --> 01:07:14,307

not.

:

01:07:14,322 --> 01:07:16,692

Andrew: up in two different

kind of childhoods in a way.

:

01:07:17,622 --> 01:07:23,742

And one time I was sitting on my couch

and and she was outside, and all of

:

01:07:23,742 --> 01:07:28,512

a sudden this lady came into my house

and she was like, oh, your wife said

:

01:07:28,512 --> 01:07:29,952

it was okay to use the bathroom.

:

01:07:29,952 --> 01:07:32,202

And I'm like, I was taken aback.

:

01:07:32,202 --> 01:07:34,992

And I was like, oh, o okay.

:

01:07:36,687 --> 01:07:39,117

So I went outside and I was

like, did you just tell some

:

01:07:39,117 --> 01:07:40,107

lady she could use her bath?

:

01:07:40,377 --> 01:07:41,067

She was like, yeah.

:

01:07:41,127 --> 01:07:45,027

She said that they were driving around

and she couldn't find a bathroom,

:

01:07:45,027 --> 01:07:49,617

and we lived like five minutes away

from a McDonald's, but like another

:

01:07:49,617 --> 01:07:52,947

five minutes away from like a

Walmart, a Denny's or anything else.

:

01:07:53,397 --> 01:07:54,717

And I'm like, this never.

:

01:07:55,152 --> 01:07:56,262

Crossed your mind.

:

01:07:57,042 --> 01:08:03,642

So don't, you could people, you could

come at me how you want, but in my mind

:

01:08:03,672 --> 01:08:06,132

I'm like, this lady's case in my house.

:

01:08:06,882 --> 01:08:08,232

She's case in my house.

:

01:08:08,232 --> 01:08:09,912

She wants to see what I got in there.

:

01:08:09,912 --> 01:08:13,662

'cause she poked her head in there

and did that little look around.

:

01:08:13,662 --> 01:08:18,341

So I like, I, I'm not gonna lie, I

called the police and I was like,

:

01:08:18,341 --> 01:08:21,522

listen, my wife just let some

random lady in my house and I think.

:

01:08:22,346 --> 01:08:25,136

And then they sat outside in front

of the house for a while and I was

:

01:08:25,136 --> 01:08:26,997

like, I think they're casing my house.

:

01:08:27,777 --> 01:08:29,157

out nothing really came of it.

:

01:08:29,157 --> 01:08:32,426

They didn't have anything going against

them or anything, but I don't know, I just

:

01:08:32,426 --> 01:08:33,147

didn't feel

:

01:08:34,482 --> 01:08:36,582

Katie: So were there other

people in the car with that She

:

01:08:36,836 --> 01:08:38,517

Andrew: had a boyfriend or a husband.

:

01:08:38,517 --> 01:08:39,807

There was a guy in the

:

01:08:39,807 --> 01:08:40,511

car with her.

:

01:08:41,412 --> 01:08:45,372

Katie: Yeah, I wouldn't, because

first of all, she, so the

:

01:08:45,372 --> 01:08:46,721

story doesn't even make sense.

:

01:08:46,721 --> 01:08:49,572

So you just stop at a

random residential home?

:

01:08:49,631 --> 01:08:51,192

No, no,

:

01:08:51,551 --> 01:08:51,881

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:08:52,002 --> 01:08:52,392

Katie: no.

:

01:08:52,692 --> 01:08:52,961

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:08:53,142 --> 01:08:54,011

Katie: I'm with you Andrew.

:

01:08:54,042 --> 01:08:54,912

Not happening.

:

01:08:54,942 --> 01:08:58,562

Andrew: up in I mean, I didn't wanna

say I grew up in a bad neighborhood.

:

01:08:58,591 --> 01:08:58,862

Niagara

:

01:08:58,862 --> 01:09:00,062

Falls is not the best area

:

01:09:00,992 --> 01:09:01,412

Katie: Oh, really?

:

01:09:01,417 --> 01:09:01,777

I've never been.

:

01:09:02,402 --> 01:09:02,852

Andrew: Oh, okay.

:

01:09:02,881 --> 01:09:04,772

Well, it go, go to the Canadian side.

:

01:09:05,122 --> 01:09:08,091

It is not the best it area.

:

01:09:08,152 --> 01:09:11,272

My uncle always told me, 'cause

he moved to Florida, like when

:

01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:12,772

he was young and stuff like that.

:

01:09:12,801 --> 01:09:14,631

He always told me it's a

great place to be from.

:

01:09:14,631 --> 01:09:14,932

It is.

:

01:09:14,961 --> 01:09:16,072

It is a great place to be

:

01:09:16,072 --> 01:09:16,461

from.

:

01:09:16,461 --> 01:09:17,992

It is not what it used to be.

:

01:09:18,107 --> 01:09:18,327

Katie: Mm

:

01:09:18,591 --> 01:09:19,162

Andrew: the best.

:

01:09:20,482 --> 01:09:26,062

It's not the best area where my wife grew

up in another section of New York where it

:

01:09:26,062 --> 01:09:28,162

was like, you can leave

your door unlocked and

:

01:09:28,247 --> 01:09:28,466

Katie: mm.

:

01:09:28,912 --> 01:09:29,961

Andrew: And Niagara Falls.

:

01:09:29,961 --> 01:09:31,461

It was like you're locking that.

:

01:09:31,492 --> 01:09:32,572

You're locking that.

:

01:09:32,631 --> 01:09:35,301

You're not gonna go to this place, you're

not gonna go to this place, you're not

:

01:09:35,301 --> 01:09:37,792

gonna go to this place type of of area.

:

01:09:37,822 --> 01:09:42,142

It, I don't wanna put down my

hometown, but it is not the best.

:

01:09:42,172 --> 01:09:46,042

I went back there a couple years ago

after living in Texas and I was like.

:

01:09:46,942 --> 01:09:47,362

This.

:

01:09:47,452 --> 01:09:48,022

I don't ever

:

01:09:48,022 --> 01:09:49,627

wanna come back to this at all.

:

01:09:50,096 --> 01:09:52,167

Katie: That's an, I mean, that

does make sense if you guys

:

01:09:52,167 --> 01:09:53,216

came from different places.

:

01:09:53,216 --> 01:09:59,422

I came from small town Nebraska, so I

come from the type of place probably

:

01:09:59,422 --> 01:10:00,702

your wife nothing happens here.

:

01:10:00,702 --> 01:10:01,992

It's like small town Nebraska.

:

01:10:02,322 --> 01:10:06,942

But I think I'm just like extremely

leery of people because I hate humans.

:

01:10:06,972 --> 01:10:07,512

As a speech

:

01:10:07,537 --> 01:10:07,657

Andrew: I,

:

01:10:07,962 --> 01:10:10,122

Katie: You know, I'm like, I

literally have a mug that says I

:

01:10:10,122 --> 01:10:11,772

hate people, so I trust no one.

:

01:10:12,307 --> 01:10:12,722

Andrew: There you go.

:

01:10:14,142 --> 01:10:14,432

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:10:14,677 --> 01:10:14,887

Andrew: You do.

:

01:10:15,097 --> 01:10:17,947

But yeah, I would've not have that

would when I was rewatching this,

:

01:10:17,947 --> 01:10:19,237

I do believe, I got in my notes.

:

01:10:19,237 --> 01:10:20,947

I'm like, why didn't she

just go to a hospital?

:

01:10:21,787 --> 01:10:26,257

you could have, could have still taken

him to a hospital, dropped him off,

:

01:10:27,007 --> 01:10:28,747

you know, leave your phone number with.

:

01:10:28,752 --> 01:10:29,172

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:10:29,407 --> 01:10:32,437

Andrew: You know, the, the billing

department at the hospital says, I'm

:

01:10:32,437 --> 01:10:34,057

gonna take care of all of his billing.

:

01:10:34,092 --> 01:10:34,312

Katie: Yep.

:

01:10:34,747 --> 01:10:38,587

Andrew: Maybe say, Hey you know, she's

probably worried about getting sued.

:

01:10:38,587 --> 01:10:40,237

I'm a high power attorney here.

:

01:10:40,297 --> 01:10:41,407

What could we settle?

:

01:10:41,407 --> 01:10:45,667

I'm pretty sure they would've settled

for a small amount, pocket change

:

01:10:45,667 --> 01:10:49,447

money to her, but these are money

for us, you know, type of thing.

:

01:10:49,547 --> 01:10:51,287

So that's what I didn't understand.

:

01:10:51,287 --> 01:10:52,037

Like he just, I.

:

01:10:53,372 --> 01:10:54,062

I felt like

:

01:10:54,062 --> 01:10:55,952

it was, I need to get this done.

:

01:10:56,132 --> 01:10:56,612

Katie: Yep.

:

01:10:56,672 --> 01:11:00,092

Andrew: like it's a, it started

out something good, like a last

:

01:11:00,092 --> 01:11:03,932

minute book report as a kid

where I'm gonna do so amazing.

:

01:11:03,932 --> 01:11:06,572

And the next thing you know, you

gotta get so many words and then

:

01:11:06,572 --> 01:11:11,882

all of a sudden you're like,

if I turn didn't into, did not,

:

01:11:12,122 --> 01:11:12,722

there we go.

:

01:11:12,722 --> 01:11:13,742

I added a word and

:

01:11:13,937 --> 01:11:14,897

Katie: Increase the font.

:

01:11:15,177 --> 01:11:15,687

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:11:16,407 --> 01:11:17,487

You know, everything like that.

:

01:11:17,487 --> 01:11:18,447

To get the pages

:

01:11:18,807 --> 01:11:20,427

hit that extra double space.

:

01:11:20,427 --> 01:11:20,817

Sometimes

:

01:11:20,867 --> 01:11:21,347

Katie: Yep.

:

01:11:21,417 --> 01:11:24,657

Andrew: like, oh, I tripled space on that

one, but I'm not gonna go back and fix it.

:

01:11:25,677 --> 01:11:26,247

type of deal.

:

01:11:26,247 --> 01:11:30,217

When it came to, when it came

to this I'm just gonna throw

:

01:11:30,217 --> 01:11:31,417

something out there and see

:

01:11:31,417 --> 01:11:32,107

what happens.

:

01:11:33,507 --> 01:11:35,037

Katie: Yeah, it all happened very quick.

:

01:11:35,037 --> 01:11:37,467

It was like there was the setup

and then we see Kelly Lynch

:

01:11:37,467 --> 01:11:38,907

falling in love with Curly Sue.

:

01:11:38,997 --> 01:11:41,357

That is shown, they have two encounters.

:

01:11:41,357 --> 01:11:45,267

There's a montage of them, all

eating pizza and getting a, a

:

01:11:45,267 --> 01:11:48,437

proper bath and and going shopping.

:

01:11:48,437 --> 01:11:52,277

And then we see Jim Belushi, you

know, all he big shocker, he cleans

:

01:11:52,277 --> 01:11:56,567

up nice so that they can fall in

love, you know, but they don't show.

:

01:11:57,167 --> 01:12:03,227

Aside from the Kelly Lynch falling in love

with Curly Sue, it's just all of a sudden

:

01:12:03,227 --> 01:12:05,867

because she wants to adopt Curly Sue.

:

01:12:06,962 --> 01:12:10,532

She automatically has this romantic

relationship with Jim Belushi,

:

01:12:10,532 --> 01:12:12,662

where we're not shown that at all.

:

01:12:14,282 --> 01:12:14,672

Right?

:

01:12:14,672 --> 01:12:16,352

I mean, how did they fall in love?

:

01:12:16,622 --> 01:12:17,612

We don't see that.

:

01:12:19,217 --> 01:12:23,537

Andrew: That's where it, it gets weird

'cause she is pretty disgusted by him,

:

01:12:23,537 --> 01:12:26,777

I felt in a lot of parts and else.

:

01:12:26,777 --> 01:12:29,957

And doesn't she just like, tell

him, almost throw soap at him and

:

01:12:29,957 --> 01:12:31,247

tell him to get into the shower

:

01:12:32,027 --> 01:12:35,987

Katie: Yeah, probably there's one

scene where they're playing the piano

:

01:12:36,047 --> 01:12:40,087

together and he reaches his hand

around and that's the extent of,

:

01:12:40,087 --> 01:12:41,882

oh, , they like each other now, but

:

01:12:42,562 --> 01:12:44,212

Andrew: thought a lot of this stuff

:

01:12:44,212 --> 01:12:46,792

was uh, movie,

:

01:12:46,882 --> 01:12:47,302

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

01:12:47,392 --> 01:12:53,182

Andrew: a more pro Hallmark movie

when it came to a lot of things where

:

01:12:53,212 --> 01:12:54,772

a lot of things didn't make sense.

:

01:12:55,192 --> 01:12:58,702

There's not a whole lot of backstory

for a lot of these things like.

:

01:12:59,812 --> 01:13:04,882

I, I applaud, you know, bill

dancer for taking a young child,

:

01:13:04,882 --> 01:13:07,192

but from a one night stand.

:

01:13:08,302 --> 01:13:08,902

That's all.

:

01:13:09,022 --> 01:13:11,752

That's all he said it was, but

yet it shows in the montage

:

01:13:11,752 --> 01:13:13,192

of him holding her as a baby.

:

01:13:13,192 --> 01:13:13,402

Was

:

01:13:13,402 --> 01:13:14,332

that, that day?

:

01:13:15,547 --> 01:13:16,177

Katie: Right.

:

01:13:16,237 --> 01:13:16,567

Right.

:

01:13:16,567 --> 01:13:19,417

'cause it's not, she's not his child.

:

01:13:19,582 --> 01:13:20,152

Andrew: No.

:

01:13:20,257 --> 01:13:20,857

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:13:21,367 --> 01:13:22,207

It's interesting.

:

01:13:22,552 --> 01:13:24,292

Andrew: And you mentioned the montage.

:

01:13:24,292 --> 01:13:26,932

There's tons of montages in

this where they were like, we

:

01:13:26,932 --> 01:13:28,072

just need to speed this up.

:

01:13:28,072 --> 01:13:31,612

Like even when they finally

do go out to dinner, when he

:

01:13:31,612 --> 01:13:32,872

gets all, you know, cleaned

:

01:13:32,872 --> 01:13:38,512

up after, after the shopping montage,

which is always something and probably

:

01:13:38,512 --> 01:13:40,372

one movie, then all of a sudden

:

01:13:40,372 --> 01:13:42,352

it's show me your world.

:

01:13:42,457 --> 01:13:43,387

Katie: Yes,

:

01:13:43,432 --> 01:13:45,202

Andrew: of like the Aladdin

:

01:13:45,202 --> 01:13:47,302

lady in the Tramp type thing

:

01:13:47,437 --> 01:13:48,247

Katie: exactly.

:

01:13:48,592 --> 01:13:50,122

Andrew: show me your world now.

:

01:13:50,132 --> 01:13:51,182

Let us take you out.

:

01:13:51,182 --> 01:13:52,322

And she says, you have no money.

:

01:13:52,322 --> 01:13:53,252

And he says, don't worry.

:

01:13:53,252 --> 01:13:57,842

And now they're riding on the back

of garbage trucks and popcorn from

:

01:13:57,842 --> 01:14:01,532

the guy in the movie theater and

sneaking curly sue in so they can.

:

01:14:01,612 --> 01:14:05,482

Get into the back door of the movie

theater and crashing weddings, and

:

01:14:05,482 --> 01:14:08,002

that was the one thing where she

was like, he does this all the time.

:

01:14:09,502 --> 01:14:12,682

I mean, know somebody would be

like, why are you being so picky?

:

01:14:12,682 --> 01:14:13,852

But sorry.

:

01:14:13,852 --> 01:14:14,572

If you're a homeless

:

01:14:14,572 --> 01:14:16,072

person, I think I'm gonna pick you

:

01:14:16,072 --> 01:14:16,642

out.

:

01:14:16,712 --> 01:14:17,192

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:14:17,692 --> 01:14:18,142

Andrew: a wedding,

:

01:14:18,302 --> 01:14:18,902

Katie: Right.

:

01:14:19,222 --> 01:14:21,232

Andrew: wedding reception or a

wedding, reception that I'm at

:

01:14:21,782 --> 01:14:21,962

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:14:21,962 --> 01:14:22,262

He's not

:

01:14:22,562 --> 01:14:24,212

ordinarily cleaned up like that.

:

01:14:24,902 --> 01:14:28,412

Andrew: Yeah, like I think I'm, I'm

picking you up pretty regularly if

:

01:14:28,412 --> 01:14:30,512

you're doing a toast, like, who is

:

01:14:30,667 --> 01:14:31,087

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:31,382 --> 01:14:33,182

Andrew: Like, is he here?

:

01:14:33,182 --> 01:14:36,572

That was the one thing, now that

I'm went back, when I went back and

:

01:14:36,572 --> 01:14:38,372

watched it, I'm like, doesn't make

:

01:14:38,372 --> 01:14:39,422

sense to me either.

:

01:14:40,427 --> 01:14:42,797

Katie: And all of a sudden

Kelly Lynch is totally cool

:

01:14:42,797 --> 01:14:44,777

with riding in a garbage truck.

:

01:14:45,147 --> 01:14:49,167

She didn't wanna touch the phone

five minutes ago and now, but it's

:

01:14:49,167 --> 01:14:52,767

just like, yeah, we can have so much

fun for free in this awesome city.

:

01:14:53,247 --> 01:14:55,137

And I guess that was sort of how I.

:

01:14:55,427 --> 01:14:57,947

Again, to show us they, they're

building on this relationship,

:

01:14:57,947 --> 01:14:58,787

but it just fell flat.

:

01:14:58,787 --> 01:15:02,427

There wasn't enough there there wasn't

any chemistry, I guess I didn't feel

:

01:15:02,427 --> 01:15:08,097

between Kelly Lynch and Jim Belushi

and even the shopping scene, who

:

01:15:08,097 --> 01:15:09,507

doesn't love a shopping montage,

:

01:15:09,742 --> 01:15:10,162

Andrew: Yes.

:

01:15:10,257 --> 01:15:11,097

Katie: It just fell flat.

:

01:15:11,097 --> 01:15:14,947

There was a lot of opportunities

that were missed that really could

:

01:15:14,947 --> 01:15:19,537

have expanded and built upon these

characters , and made us believe

:

01:15:19,597 --> 01:15:21,007

the relationship a little bit more.

:

01:15:21,677 --> 01:15:24,317

Andrew: I enjoy the shopping montage too.

:

01:15:24,377 --> 01:15:29,477

What makes it's, it's a very nostalgic

thing as I remember going say.

:

01:15:29,477 --> 01:15:32,807

If I did have to go to wedding reception

as a kid I need a clothes where

:

01:15:32,807 --> 01:15:37,247

you could walk into a Sears or a JC

Penney's or Macy's or something and

:

01:15:37,247 --> 01:15:39,047

there would be people at a counter.

:

01:15:39,047 --> 01:15:39,107

I.

:

01:15:40,112 --> 01:15:44,282

That would measure you and everything

else and say this shirt would fit you.

:

01:15:44,282 --> 01:15:49,142

And I remember being measured constantly

as a kid because that was the way that

:

01:15:49,142 --> 01:15:54,122

it was, is you know, you need a new tie

or you need something for a school dance.

:

01:15:54,332 --> 01:15:54,542

We

:

01:15:54,542 --> 01:15:56,222

were off at those stores and

:

01:15:56,672 --> 01:15:57,092

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:15:57,152 --> 01:15:57,482

Andrew: was.

:

01:15:58,412 --> 01:15:58,832

measured.

:

01:15:58,892 --> 01:16:02,522

Now you walk into those and you

can't find a soul to help you.

:

01:16:02,792 --> 01:16:07,112

So that's kind of like one of the last

shopping montages that you can actually

:

01:16:07,142 --> 01:16:09,932

kind of have where it's in that aspect of

:

01:16:10,142 --> 01:16:11,522

a counter salesperson

:

01:16:12,227 --> 01:16:17,687

Katie: Unless it's in a, a very like high

end place where, you know what I mean?

:

01:16:17,687 --> 01:16:20,417

Like a, where they have like

personal shoppers and stuff

:

01:16:20,417 --> 01:16:22,157

still, I think that, I don't know.

:

01:16:22,157 --> 01:16:25,577

I wouldn't know, but I assume

for rich people, they have still

:

01:16:25,577 --> 01:16:27,227

very personalized experiences.

:

01:16:27,227 --> 01:16:27,287

I.

:

01:16:27,527 --> 01:16:31,507

Andrew: The only time I seen anything

like counter person is Christmas time.

:

01:16:31,507 --> 01:16:33,337

We went to Macy's and there was

:

01:16:33,337 --> 01:16:35,017

people behind the fragrance counter

:

01:16:35,407 --> 01:16:36,502

Katie: oh, the memories.

:

01:16:37,432 --> 01:16:41,212

I didn't realize this, but you know

how I'd mentioned that Curly Sue was

:

01:16:41,212 --> 01:16:43,162

in an episode of The Golden Girls.

:

01:16:43,732 --> 01:16:47,902

It was the same episode

that Ededie McClure was in,

:

01:16:48,112 --> 01:16:48,292

Andrew: Oh

:

01:16:48,382 --> 01:16:50,242

Katie: I, yeah, so it was just funny that

:

01:16:50,602 --> 01:16:54,232

Alison Porter and Edie Edie McClure

appeared in the same episode.

:

01:16:54,742 --> 01:16:58,952

And that episode aired just a few

weeks before Curly Sue was released.

:

01:16:59,522 --> 01:17:02,642

And I cannot place what episode that was.

:

01:17:02,642 --> 01:17:03,512

I can't picture it.

:

01:17:03,542 --> 01:17:05,372

And I'm like a huge Golden Girl fan.

:

01:17:05,702 --> 01:17:07,443

So anybody out there, , which

episode was this?

:

01:17:07,448 --> 01:17:08,467

Please, Please tell me.

:

01:17:09,497 --> 01:17:10,666

Andrew: Yeah, that was a, that was a

:

01:17:10,666 --> 01:17:11,177

staple.

:

01:17:11,237 --> 01:17:12,017

When my grandmother would

:

01:17:12,017 --> 01:17:12,437

watch us

:

01:17:12,697 --> 01:17:13,357

Katie: Oh, love.

:

01:17:13,487 --> 01:17:14,147

Andrew: after school

:

01:17:14,177 --> 01:17:14,867

Katie: It's so good.

:

01:17:15,227 --> 01:17:16,637

Andrew: Golden Girls, Oprah,

:

01:17:17,387 --> 01:17:18,737

nightly news and everything

:

01:17:18,857 --> 01:17:19,877

Katie: Oh, the nightly news.

:

01:17:19,907 --> 01:17:20,197

Yeah.

:

01:17:20,867 --> 01:17:21,377

Yeah.

:

01:17:22,337 --> 01:17:26,477

So John Hughes also has a tendency to

put little Easter eggs in all of his

:

01:17:26,477 --> 01:17:31,397

movies, and I did take note of it,

but only because I was looking for it.

:

01:17:31,607 --> 01:17:35,477

Did you notice that the law

office is in the Bueller building?

:

01:17:35,837 --> 01:17:36,197

Andrew: I did

:

01:17:36,197 --> 01:17:36,707

not.

:

01:17:37,007 --> 01:17:38,087

I've never noticed

:

01:17:38,297 --> 01:17:38,717

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:17:39,107 --> 01:17:39,437

Yeah.

:

01:17:39,617 --> 01:17:41,387

It's in reference,

obviously to Ferris Bueller.

:

01:17:41,387 --> 01:17:42,557

Andrew: but I noticed the doctor

:

01:17:42,857 --> 01:17:43,067

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:17:44,477 --> 01:17:44,657

Andrew: I.

:

01:17:47,477 --> 01:17:51,377

Katie: Yeah, I guess there was kind of

a throwback to the end of Uncle Buck,

:

01:17:51,767 --> 01:17:54,707

which I don't know, I think this is

a bit of a stretch, but it's clearly

:

01:17:54,707 --> 01:17:56,387

something that John Hughes did on purpose.

:

01:17:56,387 --> 01:18:00,547

At the end when curly Sue is walking

up the stairs to go to school, she

:

01:18:00,547 --> 01:18:05,077

turns around and waves and smiles,

and that is the same as what John

:

01:18:05,077 --> 01:18:06,727

Candy does at the end of Uncle Bach.

:

01:18:07,867 --> 01:18:08,467

Andrew: Oh, okay.

:

01:18:08,467 --> 01:18:09,337

See, I remembered

:

01:18:09,547 --> 01:18:11,227

I would've never put two to two

:

01:18:11,382 --> 01:18:11,672

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:18:11,767 --> 01:18:12,247

Andrew: that one.

:

01:18:13,597 --> 01:18:14,977

Probably 'cause Uncle Buck is like

:

01:18:15,337 --> 01:18:16,087

a hundred times.

:

01:18:17,291 --> 01:18:17,712

Katie: better.

:

01:18:18,062 --> 01:18:18,577

Andrew: probably, yeah,

:

01:18:18,997 --> 01:18:19,657

Katie: Way better.

:

01:18:19,867 --> 01:18:20,467

Andrew: yeah.

:

01:18:21,487 --> 01:18:24,877

Buck, I would say out of John

Hughes movies, it's Uncle Buck.

:

01:18:24,937 --> 01:18:28,547

And then breakfast Club are one

and two for me when it comes to

:

01:18:28,632 --> 01:18:28,922

Katie: Okay.

:

01:18:29,012 --> 01:18:29,237

Andrew: Hughes.

:

01:18:29,597 --> 01:18:29,687

So.

:

01:18:30,677 --> 01:18:34,277

Because I've, I also forgot to

mention, I got my daughter into the

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01:18:34,277 --> 01:18:42,227

John Hughes eighties stuff at one

point, but she stopped because I had

:

01:18:42,227 --> 01:18:46,967

to be kind of the mean father in a

way where I not like, mean, mean,

:

01:18:46,967 --> 01:18:49,367

but she watched, what was it, six?

:

01:18:49,367 --> 01:18:49,517

No, not

:

01:18:50,777 --> 01:18:51,617

pretty in pink.

:

01:18:51,722 --> 01:18:52,012

Katie: Okay.

:

01:18:52,666 --> 01:18:55,757

Andrew: And she was like,

duckies, I like Ducky.

:

01:18:55,847 --> 01:18:58,487

And she was like, oh, she

was crushing on Ducky.

:

01:18:58,487 --> 01:19:01,637

I think she had to be almost 15 or

16 years old when she watched it.

:

01:19:01,637 --> 01:19:02,897

And she was crushing on Ducky.

:

01:19:02,902 --> 01:19:06,897

And I was, and of course me or

you know, being, being the father

:

01:19:06,897 --> 01:19:09,327

that I am, I'm like, you want to

see what Ducky looks like now?

:

01:19:09,717 --> 01:19:11,727

So I showed her John Cryer and she

:

01:19:11,727 --> 01:19:13,017

was like, yeah, I don't think I wanna.

:

01:19:13,797 --> 01:19:15,102

Katie: That is hilarious.

:

01:19:15,252 --> 01:19:18,432

It's funny that she liked Ducky

'cause he's the dorky one,

:

01:19:18,507 --> 01:19:18,957

Andrew: Yeah,

:

01:19:18,972 --> 01:19:19,392

Katie: you know.

:

01:19:19,497 --> 01:19:20,517

Andrew: it was weird too.

:

01:19:20,607 --> 01:19:24,657

But yeah, she really got into

the the eighties teen movies at

:

01:19:24,672 --> 01:19:24,852

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:19:26,052 --> 01:19:27,162

I like that she did.

:

01:19:27,312 --> 01:19:28,032

They're fun.

:

01:19:29,127 --> 01:19:30,867

Andrew: yeah, she wanted

to watch Breakfast Club.

:

01:19:30,897 --> 01:19:33,957

I wasn't quite sure because I

remember some of the little bit

:

01:19:34,077 --> 01:19:35,967

more crass stuff that was in it.

:

01:19:35,967 --> 01:19:36,177

So I

:

01:19:36,177 --> 01:19:38,247

waited until she got a little

bit older to watch that.

:

01:19:38,427 --> 01:19:39,462

Katie: Does she like it?

:

01:19:39,687 --> 01:19:40,017

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:19:40,722 --> 01:19:40,932

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:19:40,932 --> 01:19:42,012

Breakfast club's really good.

:

01:19:42,177 --> 01:19:43,077

Andrew: 16 candles.

:

01:19:43,077 --> 01:19:44,637

I think her favorite was pretty in pink,

:

01:19:45,072 --> 01:19:45,102

Katie: Okay.

:

01:19:45,747 --> 01:19:46,827

Andrew: I prefer 16

:

01:19:46,827 --> 01:19:48,297

candles over pretty in pink.

:

01:19:48,927 --> 01:19:50,307

Katie: I kind of conflate the two.

:

01:19:50,307 --> 01:19:54,597

I recently covered 16 candles and

have not yet covered pretty and pink.

:

01:19:54,597 --> 01:20:00,537

But I guess like of those teen

movies, I really like weird science.

:

01:20:01,172 --> 01:20:02,142

Andrew: yeah, if

:

01:20:03,582 --> 01:20:04,527

I watched that a lot

:

01:20:04,677 --> 01:20:04,737

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:20:04,737 --> 01:20:06,687

Andrew: kid, I even watched the TV series,

:

01:20:06,687 --> 01:20:07,227

which I.

:

01:20:08,822 --> 01:20:10,347

Katie: no, I did not watch that.

:

01:20:10,467 --> 01:20:10,887

Andrew: not watch

:

01:20:10,977 --> 01:20:11,127

Katie: No.

:

01:20:11,367 --> 01:20:15,237

Andrew: That was, it came out probably.

:

01:20:15,297 --> 01:20:16,377

When did Weird Science come out?

:

01:20:16,377 --> 01:20:17,367

80 45.

:

01:20:17,367 --> 01:20:18,027

Probably around there.

:

01:20:18,027 --> 01:20:19,017

86.

:

01:20:19,166 --> 01:20:22,437

Katie: I think maybe, I think 86.

:

01:20:23,067 --> 01:20:29,697

Andrew: So USA had the weird science

TV show probably about 10 years after

:

01:20:29,697 --> 01:20:30,867

the movie came out.

:

01:20:31,557 --> 01:20:33,267

Katie: It was that many years later.

:

01:20:33,327 --> 01:20:33,927

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:20:34,077 --> 01:20:34,617

it was.

:

01:20:34,617 --> 01:20:35,847

Have you ever seen kingpin?

:

01:20:36,177 --> 01:20:36,327

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:20:37,082 --> 01:20:42,422

Andrew: The, the, blonde hair lady from

Kingpin Pays, plays Kelly La Rock's

:

01:20:42,422 --> 01:20:44,462

role on the TV show for weird science.

:

01:20:46,442 --> 01:20:47,162

Katie: I can't picture it.

:

01:20:47,162 --> 01:20:48,482

It's been a while since I've seen it, but.

:

01:20:48,482 --> 01:20:48,842

Okay.

:

01:20:48,842 --> 01:20:49,562

Interesting.

:

01:20:49,652 --> 01:20:49,952

Andrew: what she,

:

01:20:49,952 --> 01:20:50,522

plays there.

:

01:20:51,512 --> 01:20:52,142

Katie: Alright.

:

01:20:53,041 --> 01:20:54,422

Big shocker here.

:

01:20:54,752 --> 01:20:58,632

I'm into kind of some of the trivia

stuff, but Kelly Lynch had said she

:

01:20:58,632 --> 01:21:02,052

was really excited to work with John

Hughes and what a cute little movie.

:

01:21:02,412 --> 01:21:06,192

But it wasn't such a great time for

her because she kind of had to play

:

01:21:06,432 --> 01:21:12,582

like mom between Jim Belushi and John

Hughes, they really did not get along

:

01:21:13,047 --> 01:21:13,617

Andrew: Oh,

:

01:21:13,842 --> 01:21:15,762

Katie: and production was even

shut down for a little while.

:

01:21:15,791 --> 01:21:18,582

'cause Belushi refused to come

to the set for a period of time.

:

01:21:19,812 --> 01:21:23,402

Andrew: I liked him when I was younger,

but now when I went back and watched

:

01:21:23,402 --> 01:21:25,982

this, I wanted to say, couldn't

:

01:21:25,982 --> 01:21:27,002

you get somebody better?

:

01:21:28,052 --> 01:21:29,282

Katie: I'm not a Belushi fan.

:

01:21:29,372 --> 01:21:30,902

I, I, yeah,

:

01:21:31,052 --> 01:21:31,442

Andrew: yeah.

:

01:21:31,442 --> 01:21:35,852

Like I tend to go with the

younger brother, considering I'm

:

01:21:35,852 --> 01:21:37,262

the younger sibling on things.

:

01:21:38,041 --> 01:21:41,672

So even in football, like I'm a big

Eli Manning guy over Peyton Manning.

:

01:21:41,677 --> 01:21:41,967

Katie: Okay.

:

01:21:42,072 --> 01:21:43,107

Andrew: I, I love Eli.

:

01:21:43,107 --> 01:21:44,757

Like I almost knew my son Eli.

:

01:21:44,817 --> 01:21:46,467

And in this I.

:

01:21:47,142 --> 01:21:52,152

I watched James Belushi, but then my

dad was like, Hey, should check out

:

01:21:52,152 --> 01:21:54,222

Blues Brothers an Animal House.

:

01:21:54,372 --> 01:21:54,822

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:21:54,882 --> 01:21:59,112

Andrew: I saw John was like, James

is horrible compared to John.

:

01:21:59,291 --> 01:22:02,712

Like the, the charisma factor is way off.

:

01:22:02,712 --> 01:22:06,522

So I always thought it was weird

to have Jim Belushi in this role.

:

01:22:06,522 --> 01:22:09,052

I can't think of anybody probably

at this time that would probably

:

01:22:09,052 --> 01:22:12,352

take a role like this, but thinking.

:

01:22:12,997 --> 01:22:15,937

Maybe it wasn't always meant for

him, and I was getting that feeling

:

01:22:15,937 --> 01:22:17,166

throughout this whole entire time.

:

01:22:17,166 --> 01:22:19,247

So when you told me that

I could definitely believe

:

01:22:19,247 --> 01:22:20,357

that there's like that, this

:

01:22:20,357 --> 01:22:21,587

tension between the two.

:

01:22:22,347 --> 01:22:26,187

Katie: I have a cent trivia about

who else was considered for the role.

:

01:22:26,367 --> 01:22:26,817

Andrew: Okay.

:

01:22:27,267 --> 01:22:31,862

Katie: But just on Jim Belushi for a

second he's better in some things than

:

01:22:31,862 --> 01:22:34,437

others, but he doesn't have charisma yet.

:

01:22:34,497 --> 01:22:36,957

He has had a magnificent career.

:

01:22:37,557 --> 01:22:38,607

Andrew: I think it's the name.

:

01:22:39,657 --> 01:22:40,827

Katie: Yeah, maybe.

:

01:22:41,157 --> 01:22:43,257

Andrew: I mean, even Chris

Penn had a good career,

:

01:22:43,412 --> 01:22:43,702

Katie: True.

:

01:22:44,041 --> 01:22:44,622

You're right.

:

01:22:44,877 --> 01:22:47,937

Andrew: but I, Chris Penn,

I feel from watching re

:

01:22:48,237 --> 01:22:50,787

Reservoir Dogs, like feel he's.

:

01:22:51,702 --> 01:22:53,682

Not quite with his brother, his brother's

:

01:22:54,002 --> 01:22:54,422

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:22:54,672 --> 01:22:59,232

Andrew: but I feel like it's

kind of more than what Jim had

:

01:22:59,232 --> 01:23:01,782

compared to John in a way.

:

01:23:02,022 --> 01:23:06,642

Like I can understand Chris, where

Chris was, did a lot of under stuff

:

01:23:06,642 --> 01:23:10,632

where Jim, I felt like tried to shoot

for the moon and be his brother.

:

01:23:10,662 --> 01:23:12,462

It just never compared.

:

01:23:12,462 --> 01:23:16,092

'cause I think he's in Blues Brothers

:

:

01:23:16,362 --> 01:23:18,252

like, why did you even make this?

:

01:23:18,252 --> 01:23:24,822

I understand the Blues Brothers are

great, but it's not, it's not the same.

:

01:23:25,272 --> 01:23:25,812

Katie: Right.

:

01:23:26,712 --> 01:23:28,872

Andrew: it's Jake and

Ellwood, not, you know,

:

01:23:28,872 --> 01:23:30,877

Ellwood and all these other guys that

:

01:23:30,912 --> 01:23:31,512

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:23:31,512 --> 01:23:32,142

Andrew: up like 'em.

:

01:23:32,772 --> 01:23:34,602

They just dress up like a blues brother.

:

01:23:35,052 --> 01:23:38,012

Katie: I must just be the name

because like he had a really long

:

01:23:38,012 --> 01:23:41,942

running TV series that was super

mediocre, but it ran forever.

:

01:23:41,942 --> 01:23:42,422

I don't know.

:

01:23:42,512 --> 01:23:42,602

Ah,

:

01:23:42,812 --> 01:23:44,882

Andrew: Yeah, then he

:

01:23:44,962 --> 01:23:46,282

Then he started growing marijuana.

:

01:23:46,372 --> 01:23:47,692

I guess he had his own show where it

:

01:23:47,692 --> 01:23:49,822

was just about him growing

marijuana or something.

:

01:23:50,002 --> 01:23:51,112

Katie: I missed that.

:

01:23:51,142 --> 01:23:53,782

Andrew: always see it like if I

go through stuff and it's like

:

01:23:53,782 --> 01:23:55,192

calling Growing Belushi,

:

01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:57,052

Katie: I've never heard of that.

:

01:23:57,112 --> 01:23:57,532

Andrew: just a

:

01:23:58,012 --> 01:23:59,602

big marijuana leaf right there.

:

01:23:59,662 --> 01:24:00,352

Katie: All right.

:

01:24:00,622 --> 01:24:01,247

Andrew: So he's.

:

01:24:02,002 --> 01:24:04,342

Katie: Well, bill Murray

turned down the role.

:

01:24:04,472 --> 01:24:05,492

'Cause he was busy shooting.

:

01:24:05,492 --> 01:24:06,332

What about Bob?

:

01:24:06,962 --> 01:24:08,912

But even that okay,

Kelly Lynch is gorgeous.

:

01:24:08,912 --> 01:24:10,502

You got, I mean, come on, get somebody.

:

01:24:10,952 --> 01:24:12,692

Bill Murray is not an attractive man.

:

01:24:13,262 --> 01:24:13,652

And

:

01:24:14,282 --> 01:24:14,822

she,

:

01:24:15,166 --> 01:24:15,557

Andrew: guy.

:

01:24:15,962 --> 01:24:17,432

Katie: I could, I can see.

:

01:24:17,432 --> 01:24:18,242

I could see it.

:

01:24:18,242 --> 01:24:18,812

Yeah.

:

01:24:19,382 --> 01:24:26,122

But I think originally Alec Baldwin

was supposed to play bill dancer.

:

01:24:26,347 --> 01:24:26,617

Andrew: Okay.

:

01:24:26,677 --> 01:24:30,977

Katie: Which, which makes way more

sense that tracks for Kelly Lynch.

:

01:24:31,887 --> 01:24:34,007

I could buy them as a couple, you know.

:

01:24:34,397 --> 01:24:34,757

Andrew: yeah.

:

01:24:35,507 --> 01:24:38,887

Katie: But he was doing a streetcar

named Desire, the Broadway production.

:

01:24:38,887 --> 01:24:42,367

So he was unavailable and then like

tons of these other people were

:

01:24:42,367 --> 01:24:48,217

considered for bill, like j John

Travolta, Jeff Goldblum, Michael

:

01:24:48,217 --> 01:24:51,127

Keaton, Richard Dreyfus, Kurt Russell.

:

01:24:51,982 --> 01:24:53,332

That would've been good.

:

01:24:53,422 --> 01:24:55,132

Kurt Russell would've been great.

:

01:24:55,232 --> 01:24:55,622

John

:

01:24:55,622 --> 01:24:57,992

Goodman, Sylvester Stallone,

:

01:24:58,082 --> 01:24:59,132

Andrew: would've been horrible.

:

01:24:59,522 --> 01:25:00,992

Katie: John Goodman or Stallone.

:

01:25:01,082 --> 01:25:01,982

Andrew: Stallone.

:

01:25:02,432 --> 01:25:02,672

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:25:02,672 --> 01:25:03,302

I agree.

:

01:25:04,112 --> 01:25:04,592

I'm a

:

01:25:04,742 --> 01:25:05,522

Andrew: seen that?

:

01:25:05,732 --> 01:25:06,242

What is it?

:

01:25:06,242 --> 01:25:06,362

The

:

01:25:06,362 --> 01:25:08,652

comedy where

:

01:25:08,712 --> 01:25:08,952

Katie: I

:

01:25:08,952 --> 01:25:09,822

Andrew: the mobster

:

01:25:10,512 --> 01:25:11,477

Katie: Oscar, I.

:

01:25:11,532 --> 01:25:11,892

Andrew: Yes.

:

01:25:11,892 --> 01:25:12,372

Oscar.

:

01:25:12,432 --> 01:25:12,852

Oh my.

:

01:25:13,212 --> 01:25:15,072

I fall for that one all the time.

:

01:25:15,072 --> 01:25:16,512

I'm like, oh, Oscar's here.

:

01:25:16,512 --> 01:25:17,382

I'm think I'm gonna watch this.

:

01:25:17,382 --> 01:25:17,922

And I watch it.

:

01:25:17,922 --> 01:25:19,212

I'm like, this is not what I

:

01:25:19,212 --> 01:25:19,662

want it to

:

01:25:19,692 --> 01:25:22,662

Katie: Granted, I haven't seen it in a

while, but I recall really liking it.

:

01:25:22,662 --> 01:25:26,522

And you might not be aware, Andrew,

but I have another show that I do.

:

01:25:26,552 --> 01:25:32,252

I'm on a Rocky Series podcast, so I have

a soft spot for Stallone, but this would

:

01:25:32,252 --> 01:25:34,412

be, he would not be good in this at all.

:

01:25:34,532 --> 01:25:36,002

Andrew: I, he's very.

:

01:25:37,906 --> 01:25:39,046

It depends on the role.

:

01:25:39,046 --> 01:25:41,536

I'm not a big sly, like in a

:

01:25:41,536 --> 01:25:43,366

comedy role type deal.

:

01:25:43,576 --> 01:25:44,116

Katie: people aren't.

:

01:25:44,116 --> 01:25:44,626

It is not.

:

01:25:44,626 --> 01:25:45,591

It's not his strong suit.

:

01:25:46,306 --> 01:25:47,446

Andrew: I want same.

:

01:25:48,526 --> 01:25:49,396

kind of pulled it

:

01:25:49,521 --> 01:25:49,941

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:25:50,206 --> 01:25:51,406

Andrew: twins, but I think that's

:

01:25:51,406 --> 01:25:53,206

because he had Danny DeVito with him

:

01:25:53,651 --> 01:25:53,941

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:25:54,016 --> 01:25:55,876

Andrew: was kind of like

a way to play it off.

:

01:25:55,876 --> 01:25:58,606

If you're an action guy and you

try and go into comedy, I feel

:

01:25:58,606 --> 01:25:59,656

like it doesn't,

:

01:26:00,691 --> 01:26:01,381

Katie: It's tough.

:

01:26:01,411 --> 01:26:03,391

It's harder than it looks, I think.

:

01:26:03,451 --> 01:26:03,871

Yeah.

:

01:26:03,916 --> 01:26:04,906

Andrew: doesn't work for you.

:

01:26:04,951 --> 01:26:05,371

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:26:06,300 --> 01:26:10,561

Also, Mel Gibson, Ray Liotta,

Jeff Bridges, Steve Gutenberg,

:

01:26:10,861 --> 01:26:12,571

Bruce Willis and Tom Selleck.

:

01:26:13,096 --> 01:26:14,476

Andrew: I would've gone with Bruce Willis.

:

01:26:14,941 --> 01:26:17,071

Katie: I can see Bruce

Wills being really good.

:

01:26:17,521 --> 01:26:18,871

Andrew: I think Bruce Willis is more

:

01:26:20,311 --> 01:26:24,661

every man out of all those

guys where he's not like.

:

01:26:25,126 --> 01:26:26,326

Wow, look at him.

:

01:26:26,326 --> 01:26:28,366

But he makes sense,

:

01:26:28,366 --> 01:26:30,675

especially if you watched

Moonlighting or anything.

:

01:26:30,736 --> 01:26:31,486

Katie: That's true.

:

01:26:31,486 --> 01:26:35,236

I, I adore Kurt Russell, but

he's probably too good looking.

:

01:26:35,241 --> 01:26:35,511

Maybe.

:

01:26:36,761 --> 01:26:37,111

Maybe.

:

01:26:37,211 --> 01:26:38,056

But I can buy.

:

01:26:38,106 --> 01:26:39,425

And anyway, anyway, so that was,

:

01:26:39,476 --> 01:26:41,276

Andrew: what I see,

Kurt Russell, I think of

:

01:26:41,996 --> 01:26:42,146

Oh, huh.

:

01:26:43,226 --> 01:26:46,946

I could see, yeah, he would, I could

see him in that, 'cause he kind of

:

01:26:46,946 --> 01:26:49,106

did this in a way with Overboard

:

01:26:49,151 --> 01:26:49,691

Katie: Right.

:

01:26:49,781 --> 01:26:50,231

Yeah,

:

01:26:51,146 --> 01:26:55,526

Andrew: little, you know, impoverished guy

that just trying to make it through the

:

01:26:55,526 --> 01:26:55,946

world.

:

01:26:55,946 --> 01:26:57,686

So I, I could see that

:

01:26:57,851 --> 01:26:58,361

Katie: he's very

:

01:26:58,691 --> 01:26:59,231

charming Too.

:

01:26:59,231 --> 01:27:04,391

I can see like that you know, being

impressive to Kelly Lynch's character.

:

01:27:05,111 --> 01:27:08,471

But yeah, I would've, I would've

liked pretty much anybody else.

:

01:27:08,521 --> 01:27:08,550

I.

:

01:27:09,421 --> 01:27:12,221

No except for Richard Dreyfuss not a fan.

:

01:27:12,321 --> 01:27:13,281

That would've been horrible.

:

01:27:13,311 --> 01:27:14,091

I don't like that.

:

01:27:14,091 --> 01:27:14,631

Mm-hmm.

:

01:27:14,736 --> 01:27:21,486

Andrew: no, I'm, I he kind of too dorky,

like, why would you fall in love with

:

01:27:21,486 --> 01:27:26,796

the, it's horrible, the homeless dork as

I got on my action figure is behind me.

:

01:27:26,796 --> 01:27:29,981

But once again, why would

you, why would you, you know,

:

01:27:30,876 --> 01:27:32,696

fall for and he's so kind of

:

01:27:35,006 --> 01:27:35,666

whiny.

:

01:27:36,131 --> 01:27:39,941

Katie: He is whiny and I think he's also

notorious for being hard to work with.

:

01:27:39,941 --> 01:27:42,161

So I don't know, I, I

wouldn't have cast him.

:

01:27:42,536 --> 01:27:45,596

Andrew: I am trying to

think who else that's, yeah.

:

01:27:45,596 --> 01:27:46,826

I would've gone with Bruce Willis.

:

01:27:46,826 --> 01:27:47,425

I think I would've

:

01:27:47,621 --> 01:27:49,091

Katie: Yeah, I think that's a good call.

:

01:27:49,406 --> 01:27:49,616

Andrew: he

:

01:27:49,661 --> 01:27:50,441

Katie: Um,

:

01:27:50,726 --> 01:27:52,346

Andrew: he would've done better.

:

01:27:52,346 --> 01:27:53,036

Kurt Russell.

:

01:27:53,036 --> 01:27:53,726

I could see.

:

01:27:53,891 --> 01:27:53,981

Katie: I.

:

01:27:54,206 --> 01:27:56,636

Andrew: he can get that, that grit to him.

:

01:27:56,636 --> 01:27:59,006

I think you need somebody with a

little bit of grit where I don't

:

01:27:59,006 --> 01:28:00,356

think Bill Murray's got that.

:

01:28:01,766 --> 01:28:05,726

Streetwise grit to him

as much he's just more

:

01:28:08,066 --> 01:28:09,386

like witty in a way.

:

01:28:09,461 --> 01:28:10,241

Katie: Yeah, I could.

:

01:28:10,241 --> 01:28:11,516

You're, I see what you're saying.

:

01:28:11,856 --> 01:28:12,276

Mm-hmm.

:

01:28:12,506 --> 01:28:15,776

Andrew: I need, I need

a guy that look good.

:

01:28:15,776 --> 01:28:16,256

Dirty.

:

01:28:16,931 --> 01:28:17,351

Katie: Ray,

:

01:28:17,381 --> 01:28:19,991

Ray Liotta was, was another one, I guess.

:

01:28:19,991 --> 01:28:22,271

And he's like attractive,

but not overly so,

:

01:28:22,371 --> 01:28:24,711

Andrew: plus it all depends on what

movies I've seen him in before.

:

01:28:24,711 --> 01:28:28,761

And if I gotta relate him to that,

like I'm a Big Sopranos fan and my

:

01:28:28,761 --> 01:28:33,381

wife will watch shows and see a guy

from The Sopranos and there was a

:

01:28:33,381 --> 01:28:37,671

guy that, he was a snitch and she

was like on one of her doctor shows.

:

01:28:37,671 --> 01:28:39,441

And I was like, that's that rat Jimmy.

:

01:28:39,441 --> 01:28:40,666

And she was like, what?

:

01:28:41,306 --> 01:28:42,651

I was like, that's the rat.

:

01:28:42,651 --> 01:28:43,131

Jimmy.

:

01:28:43,491 --> 01:28:44,661

Jimmy Ratted on him.

:

01:28:45,006 --> 01:28:45,906

Katie: From Sopranos.

:

01:28:45,906 --> 01:28:49,506

Oh God, that's such, that's still

like in my top five shows of all time.

:

01:28:49,506 --> 01:28:50,496

I love it so much.

:

01:28:51,096 --> 01:28:51,306

Mm-hmm.

:

01:28:52,266 --> 01:28:54,846

Christina Ricci, I guess,

was the first choice.

:

01:28:54,966 --> 01:28:57,216

That's who John Hughes wanted to play.

:

01:28:57,216 --> 01:29:00,096

Curly Sue 'cause he had

seen her in mermaids.

:

01:29:00,396 --> 01:29:01,746

Andrew: Oh yeah she was great at

:

01:29:02,016 --> 01:29:02,406

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:29:03,226 --> 01:29:07,796

But She was busy shooting the Adams

Family, which is a great movie.

:

01:29:07,796 --> 01:29:08,756

Also from 91.

:

01:29:09,175 --> 01:29:10,406

Andrew: I can't believe that's 91.

:

01:29:10,675 --> 01:29:10,826

Katie: I know.

:

01:29:11,576 --> 01:29:12,116

Andrew: I want to like

:

01:29:12,116 --> 01:29:13,491

place it later, but.

:

01:29:14,276 --> 01:29:15,146

Katie: I know right.

:

01:29:15,146 --> 01:29:21,206

And Natasha Leone auditioned for the part

and I could see her doing a good job.

:

01:29:21,206 --> 01:29:24,956

The, just a redheaded

version of Curly Sue.

:

01:29:25,106 --> 01:29:28,436

But I really liked, I li I had

no problem with our curly Sue.

:

01:29:28,675 --> 01:29:30,026

I thought she, she did a good job.

:

01:29:30,311 --> 01:29:31,196

Andrew: no, she was good.

:

01:29:31,756 --> 01:29:36,886

Katie: So any, any guesses for who was

considered for Kelly Lynch's character?

:

01:29:36,886 --> 01:29:37,936

Gray Ellison?

:

01:29:38,731 --> 01:29:39,541

Andrew: Geez, at this point.

:

01:29:39,646 --> 01:29:40,246

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:29:42,050 --> 01:29:46,246

Andrew: I'm trying to think who was big

and I, you probably got what Meryl Streep,

:

01:29:47,356 --> 01:29:48,796

but she's probably too high

:

01:29:48,856 --> 01:29:49,671

Katie: She's too big.

:

01:29:49,821 --> 01:29:50,111

Yeah.

:

01:29:50,326 --> 01:29:53,236

Andrew: Yeah, I'm trying to think.

:

01:29:55,066 --> 01:29:56,446

Geez, she's probably

:

01:29:56,446 --> 01:29:58,366

Cher, but she's doing mermaids.

:

01:29:58,521 --> 01:29:58,941

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:30:00,856 --> 01:30:01,136

I could

:

01:30:01,156 --> 01:30:01,576

See a.

:

01:30:01,821 --> 01:30:02,931

Andrew: Keaton, but

:

01:30:03,111 --> 01:30:03,771

Katie: Ooh, good.

:

01:30:04,281 --> 01:30:04,761

Yeah.

:

01:30:04,761 --> 01:30:06,261

Good, good call.

:

01:30:06,291 --> 01:30:08,751

But that, that movie was kind

of already made baby boom.

:

01:30:08,751 --> 01:30:10,851

She kind of already Yeah,

she already did that.

:

01:30:11,166 --> 01:30:12,186

Andrew: watching that as a kid.

:

01:30:12,186 --> 01:30:12,696

My mother was

:

01:30:12,696 --> 01:30:14,646

a big fan of the movie, baby Boom.

:

01:30:14,721 --> 01:30:15,321

Katie: Me too.

:

01:30:15,396 --> 01:30:16,356

Andrew: still remember her

:

01:30:16,356 --> 01:30:17,946

making her own Baby

:

01:30:18,141 --> 01:30:18,621

Katie: food.

:

01:30:18,726 --> 01:30:19,326

Andrew: Yes.

:

01:30:19,401 --> 01:30:19,881

Katie: business.

:

01:30:20,121 --> 01:30:22,241

'cause she was the high powered,

this was the thing of the eighties.

:

01:30:22,241 --> 01:30:24,461

Maybe the high powered

single lady with no kids.

:

01:30:24,461 --> 01:30:29,871

And then watch her fish Outta Water story

with that kind of a woman now loving.

:

01:30:30,336 --> 01:30:30,966

Being a mother

:

01:30:31,836 --> 01:30:31,925

Andrew: Yep.

:

01:30:32,086 --> 01:30:35,086

Katie: Linda Hamilton was considered

and she was unavailable 'cause she

:

01:30:35,086 --> 01:30:39,946

was doing T two and then a bunch of

other ladies, including, I could see

:

01:30:39,946 --> 01:30:42,466

almost all of these doing a good job.

:

01:30:42,466 --> 01:30:45,586

I had no problem with Kelly Lynch, but

she didn't blow it out of the water.

:

01:30:45,586 --> 01:30:46,516

So Gina Davis,

:

01:30:47,550 --> 01:30:48,601

Andrew: I would've loved

:

01:30:48,601 --> 01:30:49,050

that.

:

01:30:49,231 --> 01:30:50,731

I am a big fan of Gina

:

01:30:50,841 --> 01:30:51,181

Katie: me too.

:

01:30:51,211 --> 01:30:53,761

Andrew: gone back and watched

some Family Ties episodes and

:

01:30:53,761 --> 01:30:55,261

she was great in that as

:

01:30:55,511 --> 01:30:56,326

Katie: Who was she in?

:

01:30:56,326 --> 01:30:57,196

Family Ties.

:

01:30:57,451 --> 01:30:59,941

Andrew: So, Baxter was.

:

01:31:01,726 --> 01:31:02,146

at that

:

01:31:02,401 --> 01:31:02,821

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:31:03,296 --> 01:31:05,006

Andrew: I think they were

playing off that she was sick or

:

01:31:05,006 --> 01:31:07,316

something, she wasn't on the show,

:

01:31:07,316 --> 01:31:08,816

so she was the housekeeper.

:

01:31:09,416 --> 01:31:10,226

Katie: Gina Davis.

:

01:31:10,226 --> 01:31:10,706

Oh.

:

01:31:11,231 --> 01:31:13,631

Andrew: but she wasn't

like a normal housekeeper.

:

01:31:13,631 --> 01:31:18,181

She came from, I guess a

family of kind of providence.

:

01:31:18,181 --> 01:31:21,481

Like she was a, almost like a

trust fund baby, but she wanted

:

01:31:21,481 --> 01:31:22,800

to prove that she could do things.

:

01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,661

So she was a terrible housekeeper.

:

01:31:25,381 --> 01:31:29,251

But they kept her Kee

not Michael a, you know,

:

01:31:29,431 --> 01:31:30,631

Katie: Alex p Keaton.

:

01:31:30,661 --> 01:31:31,981

Andrew: thought she was good looking

:

01:31:32,011 --> 01:31:32,701

Katie: Shocking.

:

01:31:32,941 --> 01:31:35,101

Andrew: the father felt bad for her.

:

01:31:35,851 --> 01:31:40,901

So it was kind of like one of those, how

definitely the show is where, he's the

:

01:31:40,901 --> 01:31:44,741

more liberal one and he feels bad for her

'cause she's just trying to make her way.

:

01:31:44,741 --> 01:31:47,171

But then the conservative guy's

like, well she's pretty good

:

01:31:47,171 --> 01:31:49,121

looking so let's just keep her on.

:

01:31:49,121 --> 01:31:51,071

And she like burns food

:

01:31:51,071 --> 01:31:52,031

and everything else.

:

01:31:53,141 --> 01:31:56,050

Katie: I do not recall this at

all, and I thought I had seen all

:

01:31:56,050 --> 01:31:57,611

of family ties, but I guess not.

:

01:31:58,091 --> 01:32:01,541

Andrew: I've watched some good

portion of it and there was

:

01:32:01,541 --> 01:32:04,091

some people on there where I was

like, oh my goodness, I forgot.

:

01:32:04,091 --> 01:32:05,321

Like chunk from the Goonies is

:

01:32:05,321 --> 01:32:06,671

on There and everything else.

:

01:32:07,346 --> 01:32:10,046

Katie: There were a lot of guest

stars that I, I can remember, but

:

01:32:10,046 --> 01:32:11,846

yeah, I, I, I really do like her.

:

01:32:11,846 --> 01:32:13,286

I like Kirsti Ali too.

:

01:32:13,766 --> 01:32:14,756

She was considered

:

01:32:15,656 --> 01:32:16,646

Andrew: but I don't think

I'd like her in this

:

01:32:16,901 --> 01:32:18,311

Katie: yeah, I can, I kind of agree.

:

01:32:18,311 --> 01:32:21,881

Olivia Newton John, I

don't really have feelings.

:

01:32:21,881 --> 01:32:22,601

I don't care.

:

01:32:22,661 --> 01:32:24,791

I don't, she's just like, eh, to me.

:

01:32:25,271 --> 01:32:27,731

Andrew: I think she's just

there in a lot of roles.

:

01:32:27,731 --> 01:32:31,481

Like even in Greece, she's like the

star, but she's just like there.

:

01:32:31,511 --> 01:32:32,381

That falls behind the

:

01:32:32,381 --> 01:32:34,241

scenes compared to a Rizzo or

:

01:32:34,361 --> 01:32:34,901

Katie: right.

:

01:32:35,021 --> 01:32:36,041

Andrew: anybody else.

:

01:32:36,581 --> 01:32:37,841

Katie: She doesn't have that charisma.

:

01:32:37,841 --> 01:32:38,471

I agree.

:

01:32:38,831 --> 01:32:43,451

Laura Dern, Andy McDowell,

who I can see Andy

:

01:32:43,866 --> 01:32:44,156

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:32:44,291 --> 01:32:45,371

Katie: also doing a good job.

:

01:32:45,611 --> 01:32:46,871

Sigourney Weaver.

:

01:32:47,411 --> 01:32:48,461

Jamie Lee Curtis.

:

01:32:50,891 --> 01:32:56,050

Andrew: I could see Jamie Lee

Curtis, so Gorney Weaver maybe.

:

01:32:56,081 --> 01:32:59,411

'cause if it's a role in, you

know, the whole Alien series,

:

01:33:00,071 --> 01:33:01,511

just feel like she would overpower,

:

01:33:01,841 --> 01:33:02,891

Katie: I think so too.

:

01:33:03,101 --> 01:33:04,061

Andrew: Jim Belushi in there.

:

01:33:04,061 --> 01:33:06,161

like she would just overpower that

:

01:33:06,311 --> 01:33:06,791

Katie: I think so

:

01:33:07,241 --> 01:33:07,300

too.

:

01:33:07,541 --> 01:33:09,131

Andrew: like even more

than Kelly Lynch did.

:

01:33:09,431 --> 01:33:13,901

Katie: Kathleen Turner, who probably

hadn't been in a whole lot in

:

01:33:13,901 --> 01:33:15,071

a little while at this time, I.

:

01:33:15,971 --> 01:33:16,300

Andrew: Mm-hmm.

:

01:33:16,931 --> 01:33:18,461

Katie: Then also Goldie Hawn.

:

01:33:19,121 --> 01:33:21,550

I think it would've been hilarious

if it was Goldie Ha and Kurt Russell

:

01:33:22,121 --> 01:33:22,421

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:33:22,901 --> 01:33:24,341

Katie: back together again.

:

01:33:26,141 --> 01:33:27,311

Andrew: Favorite goalie ha movie

:

01:33:27,311 --> 01:33:28,241

is Wildcats.

:

01:33:28,601 --> 01:33:29,351

That's my favorite

:

01:33:29,381 --> 01:33:30,791

Katie: I don't think I've seen Wildcat

:

01:33:30,881 --> 01:33:32,111

Andrew: ever seen where she

:

01:33:32,441 --> 01:33:34,271

Katie: is like the football

coach or something.

:

01:33:34,511 --> 01:33:40,101

Andrew: it is great 'cause it's,

opposite of way that Kelly buried in

:

01:33:40,191 --> 01:33:41,971

portrayed in this, where, she has to

:

01:33:41,971 --> 01:33:43,591

earn the respect of the

:

01:33:44,071 --> 01:33:44,641

Katie: Yeah, I.

:

01:33:44,731 --> 01:33:49,531

Andrew: She's not as rr but she

is, in a way, it's, it's very good.

:

01:33:50,251 --> 01:33:54,421

other part I found weird in the

writing in this is the boss, if

:

01:33:54,421 --> 01:33:58,891

you notice at the end, beginning,

he says, relax, don't go so hard.

:

01:33:59,221 --> 01:34:02,101

And then all of a sudden at

the end he's like, ease up.

:

01:34:03,001 --> 01:34:04,861

No, he's like, he's

like, what are you doing?

:

01:34:05,026 --> 01:34:05,776

Katie: Where have you been?

:

01:34:05,971 --> 01:34:07,261

Andrew: Yeah, back away from this.

:

01:34:07,321 --> 01:34:08,251

And then where have you been?

:

01:34:08,281 --> 01:34:08,791

Get away

:

01:34:09,151 --> 01:34:09,630

and everything.

:

01:34:09,661 --> 01:34:10,621

It's like, what do you

:

01:34:10,621 --> 01:34:11,401

want from her

:

01:34:11,460 --> 01:34:15,581

Katie: Yeah, he tells her to take it

easy, there was also a weird storyline,

:

01:34:16,181 --> 01:34:19,891

like half, half storyline that they

didn't really do anything with, , the

:

01:34:19,891 --> 01:34:22,981

wife who, so there's a divorce happening.

:

01:34:23,731 --> 01:34:26,671

Kelly Lynch is representing the

wife and she's really going hard.

:

01:34:27,121 --> 01:34:29,231

And what's his face?

:

01:34:29,380 --> 01:34:30,821

Andrew: The Fred Thompson

:

01:34:30,866 --> 01:34:31,526

Katie: Fred Thompson.

:

01:34:31,526 --> 01:34:31,766

Yeah,

:

01:34:31,871 --> 01:34:32,081

Andrew: Yeah,

:

01:34:32,246 --> 01:34:33,626

Katie: he, he's like, no, no, no, no.

:

01:34:33,626 --> 01:34:37,286

, The husband doesn't want a

divorce, but he doesn't wanna be

:

01:34:37,286 --> 01:34:38,755

with her or something like that.

:

01:34:38,755 --> 01:34:40,196

Like it would cost him too much money.

:

01:34:40,196 --> 01:34:40,226

I.

:

01:34:40,901 --> 01:34:43,091

Andrew: Or, yeah, he doesn't

wanna give her anything.

:

01:34:43,151 --> 01:34:44,741

She doesn't, he wants the divorce.

:

01:34:44,741 --> 01:34:48,011

She doesn't want the divorce, but he

doesn't want to give her anything.

:

01:34:48,281 --> 01:34:52,960

So he's like a city council member or

something because she uses the dirt.

:

01:34:53,846 --> 01:34:57,596

That she's got on him to get Curly Sue

:

01:34:57,596 --> 01:35:02,216

out of child Protective

Services because her boyfriend,

:

01:35:02,786 --> 01:35:03,446

Mr.

:

01:35:03,476 --> 01:35:04,556

Walt Walker

:

01:35:04,691 --> 01:35:04,991

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:35:05,276 --> 01:35:06,326

Andrew: Child Protective Services.

:

01:35:06,356 --> 01:35:07,226

'cause He's mad

:

01:35:07,451 --> 01:35:08,380

Katie: He's jealous.

:

01:35:08,411 --> 01:35:08,710

Yeah.

:

01:35:09,085 --> 01:35:12,406

Andrew: You know, Jim Belushi's

getting what he has and everything

:

01:35:12,406 --> 01:35:17,446

so she like uses that against him,

which is the city council member is.

:

01:35:17,476 --> 01:35:19,366

I forget what his name is,

:

01:35:19,366 --> 01:35:20,896

plays in Beverly Hills Cop

:

01:35:21,691 --> 01:35:25,201

Katie: Oh, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, you're right.

:

01:35:25,666 --> 01:35:26,746

Andrew: he's in Beverly Hills Cop.

:

01:35:26,746 --> 01:35:30,371

But yeah, they were like, Hey,

we're gonna put this subplot in

:

01:35:30,371 --> 01:35:31,931

the beginning, but now we're not

:

01:35:31,931 --> 01:35:33,671

gonna go back to it until we need it.

:

01:35:34,016 --> 01:35:36,646

Katie: But it sort of doesn't make

sense though, because , then after

:

01:35:36,646 --> 01:35:41,956

Kelly Lynch softens up and is no

longer like a killer with this divorce,

:

01:35:42,286 --> 01:35:46,606

she somehow then convinces the wife

that she really loves him still and

:

01:35:46,606 --> 01:35:48,226

doesn't wanna get a divorce at all.

:

01:35:48,675 --> 01:35:50,876

And then Fred Thompson

is like, no, no, no.

:

01:35:50,876 --> 01:35:51,896

He doesn't want that.

:

01:35:52,511 --> 01:35:52,901

Andrew: Yeah,

:

01:35:53,231 --> 01:35:54,101

Katie: I was like, what?

:

01:35:54,491 --> 01:35:55,781

What's the point of this?

:

01:35:56,021 --> 01:35:58,210

Like, why was this a part of this movie?

:

01:35:59,276 --> 01:36:00,956

Andrew: The only time

it came into play was

:

01:36:01,406 --> 01:36:03,416

to pull a favor with a city official.

:

01:36:03,491 --> 01:36:03,761

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:36:04,196 --> 01:36:05,906

Andrew: And that was

after that It was done.

:

01:36:06,101 --> 01:36:09,431

Katie: But the back and forth of what the

husband and wife wanted, I was like, why?

:

01:36:09,491 --> 01:36:10,300

Why is this here?

:

01:36:10,331 --> 01:36:10,751

I don't know.

:

01:36:10,781 --> 01:36:11,231

Weird.

:

01:36:11,335 --> 01:36:11,755

Andrew: it was.

:

01:36:12,925 --> 01:36:14,276

They just had it added in.

:

01:36:14,276 --> 01:36:17,456

So later on they could go back

and say, oh, see, this is why.

:

01:36:19,286 --> 01:36:21,146

It's, it's very, Very very odd.

:

01:36:21,446 --> 01:36:21,966

Katie: very, odd.

:

01:36:22,255 --> 01:36:26,906

Andrew: I could see why this is his

last big kind of writing and stuff

:

01:36:26,906 --> 01:36:29,576

like that, other than anything else.

:

01:36:29,606 --> 01:36:35,636

'cause it's just not as coming of

age or anything of that nature as it.

:

01:36:36,566 --> 01:36:40,916

thing too about this I don't think

it automatically knew what it

:

01:36:40,916 --> 01:36:41,876

wanted to be.

:

01:36:42,626 --> 01:36:42,925

a way,

:

01:36:43,061 --> 01:36:43,481

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:36:43,675 --> 01:36:46,666

Andrew: does it wanna be a heartwarming

comedy, or do you want it to do

:

01:36:46,666 --> 01:36:49,186

like a slapstick comedy in a way?

:

01:36:49,186 --> 01:36:52,606

Because there was a lot of part where she

hits him at the board and he goes flying,

:

01:36:52,606 --> 01:36:59,286

or gets thrown into the van then there

was sound effects like, what are we do?

:

01:36:59,316 --> 01:36:59,826

what are we

:

01:37:01,146 --> 01:37:02,496

Katie: That's from home alone.

:

01:37:02,546 --> 01:37:05,096

I noticed that when we covered

Dennis the menace too, like he

:

01:37:05,096 --> 01:37:06,596

pulls a lot from home alone.

:

01:37:07,286 --> 01:37:08,546

Andrew: But then it's the menace.

:

01:37:08,546 --> 01:37:09,326

I could see it, but

:

01:37:09,326 --> 01:37:10,786

in this what do you want it

:

01:37:10,936 --> 01:37:11,356

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:37:11,536 --> 01:37:14,866

Andrew: That's one of the things like

when I, when we review a movie is,

:

01:37:15,166 --> 01:37:16,906

doesn't know what it wants to

:

01:37:16,971 --> 01:37:17,391

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:37:17,596 --> 01:37:19,846

Andrew: We just reviewed

a movie called Bingo that.

:

01:37:20,206 --> 01:37:21,916

Probably is a cult classic.

:

01:37:21,916 --> 01:37:22,546

It's about a boy.

:

01:37:22,576 --> 01:37:22,936

It's like a

:

01:37:22,936 --> 01:37:24,436

parody of a boy of his dog.

:

01:37:24,981 --> 01:37:25,201

Katie: Oh,

:

01:37:25,606 --> 01:37:28,216

Andrew: And it's, it's very, very absurd.

:

01:37:28,216 --> 01:37:28,666

Very

:

01:37:28,755 --> 01:37:30,436

problem child.

:

01:37:30,466 --> 01:37:32,085

Early nineties peewee,

:

01:37:32,746 --> 01:37:34,005

big adventure mold.

:

01:37:34,251 --> 01:37:34,671

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:37:34,816 --> 01:37:37,996

Andrew: like we gave it pretty high

ratings, but that's only because

:

01:37:38,085 --> 01:37:39,046

we knew it.

:

01:37:39,046 --> 01:37:39,736

It knew what it

:

01:37:40,161 --> 01:37:40,511

Katie: Right.

:

01:37:41,505 --> 01:37:43,696

Andrew: when it comes to Curly

Sue, as great as it is, like

:

01:37:43,726 --> 01:37:44,925

when I'm watching it now.

:

01:37:45,585 --> 01:37:50,356

I don't think it knows what it wants

to be and it, directions, like we said,

:

01:37:50,356 --> 01:37:55,996

are in nine different directions and

it doesn't give you any type of detail

:

01:37:55,996 --> 01:37:59,686

of why, why this came to be in a way.

:

01:38:00,191 --> 01:38:03,971

Katie: Yeah, it's sort of like, it

goes 75% of the way there and then

:

01:38:04,151 --> 01:38:06,001

falls short in a lot of different ways.

:

01:38:06,001 --> 01:38:08,761

It's a basic movie and there's

nothing wrong with a basic movie,

:

01:38:08,886 --> 01:38:09,425

Andrew: no.

:

01:38:09,481 --> 01:38:12,061

Katie: I, it could have

been something special.

:

01:38:12,541 --> 01:38:16,710

And I do think that Hughes has at

this time he's lost a little bit of

:

01:38:16,710 --> 01:38:18,601

his magic is, my closing thoughts.

:

01:38:18,601 --> 01:38:19,291

What about you?

:

01:38:19,321 --> 01:38:21,811

What are your closing

thoughts on Curly Sue Andrew?

:

01:38:22,191 --> 01:38:25,341

Andrew: yeah, I just feel

like he's lost his magic.

:

01:38:25,421 --> 01:38:27,431

I'm, like I said, I'm into wrestling.

:

01:38:27,431 --> 01:38:27,816

There's a.

:

01:38:27,925 --> 01:38:31,316

A term, you know, you, you book a

wrestler and you book a storyline

:

01:38:31,316 --> 01:38:33,386

and of the guys that I listen to

:

01:38:33,386 --> 01:38:35,216

uses a term lazy booking

:

01:38:35,596 --> 01:38:35,816

Katie: Mm.

:

01:38:35,936 --> 01:38:37,526

Andrew: just feel this is lazy

:

01:38:37,716 --> 01:38:38,136

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:38:38,335 --> 01:38:38,966

Andrew: Hughes part.

:

01:38:38,966 --> 01:38:43,406

This is a guy that turned

out classic after classic and

:

01:38:44,816 --> 01:38:46,406

I, that the magic was gone.

:

01:38:46,446 --> 01:38:49,566

There's nothing that it, it's here.

:

01:38:49,566 --> 01:38:50,886

I think it's a great movie.

:

01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:57,171

Or down, down, down the road if I

had grandkids or something, or if

:

01:38:57,171 --> 01:39:03,771

I'm babysitting younger kids and it's

there, but it's not my first choice

:

01:39:03,771 --> 01:39:06,351

to show somebody that like it's.

:

01:39:07,011 --> 01:39:07,251

It.

:

01:39:08,721 --> 01:39:11,630

It's like you're scrolling

through streaming 'cause you don't

:

01:39:11,630 --> 01:39:14,001

know what to watch, so you're

just on Netflix or something.

:

01:39:14,001 --> 01:39:16,101

All of a sudden you're

like, oh, there's Curly Sue.

:

01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,741

But then something else

is right next to it.

:

01:39:19,161 --> 01:39:20,481

Like Ferris Beeler's Day off,

:

01:39:20,531 --> 01:39:21,731

I'm gonna go to Ferris Bueller.

:

01:39:22,016 --> 01:39:23,050

Katie: A hundred percent.

:

01:39:23,231 --> 01:39:24,011

Andrew: That's where,

:

01:39:24,041 --> 01:39:25,811

that's where it lies.

:

01:39:26,021 --> 01:39:26,621

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:39:27,041 --> 01:39:28,300

Andrew: Bound, the Incredible Journey.

:

01:39:28,391 --> 01:39:28,991

Katie: Oh yeah.

:

01:39:28,991 --> 01:39:29,741

I listened to that one.

:

01:39:30,191 --> 01:39:30,791

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:39:30,791 --> 01:39:32,335

I was like no, no.

:

01:39:32,531 --> 01:39:32,741

this.

:

01:39:32,741 --> 01:39:34,781

is, this is not for me anymore

:

01:39:35,246 --> 01:39:35,486

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:39:35,486 --> 01:39:36,956

It's funny when you revisit things.

:

01:39:36,976 --> 01:39:37,366

Andrew: Yeah.

:

01:39:37,366 --> 01:39:40,216

And, and I feel the, kind

of the same with Curly Sue.

:

01:39:40,266 --> 01:39:41,946

I'm not seeking this out as an

:

01:39:42,106 --> 01:39:42,526

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:39:42,936 --> 01:39:47,856

Andrew: I, this is probably my

last viewing of Curly Sue for this

:

01:39:50,361 --> 01:39:51,201

That's probably it.

:

01:39:51,311 --> 01:39:51,611

I will

:

01:39:51,611 --> 01:39:53,681

talk highly of it just

because of my nostalgia

:

01:39:53,856 --> 01:39:54,276

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:39:54,341 --> 01:39:56,701

Andrew: a family thing,

but other than that, it's.

:

01:39:57,630 --> 01:39:59,491

It's kind of a wayside movie.

:

01:39:59,491 --> 01:40:04,121

It's the, $5 bin at

Walmart, , with the DOSA DVDs.

:

01:40:04,121 --> 01:40:09,011

That's, but I, I, enjoy it if I

watch it, but it's not anything

:

01:40:09,011 --> 01:40:10,391

I'm seeking out anytime soon.

:

01:40:10,391 --> 01:40:12,791

And the wheels have definitely

fell off at this part.

:

01:40:12,791 --> 01:40:14,186

The magic's gone.

:

01:40:14,186 --> 01:40:15,675

You're not

:

01:40:16,571 --> 01:40:17,561

what you used to do,

:

01:40:17,816 --> 01:40:18,476

Katie: I concur.

:

01:40:18,476 --> 01:40:22,486

Which is sad because this is his

last, effort as a director and

:

01:40:22,486 --> 01:40:24,316

it's not what we really want.

:

01:40:24,316 --> 01:40:27,191

It's not the way we want him to go

out, so to speak I know it seems

:

01:40:27,191 --> 01:40:30,101

we're being a little hard on it, but

it's I think sometimes that happens

:

01:40:30,101 --> 01:40:34,210

when you have high expectations when

somebody puts out such great work.

:

01:40:34,321 --> 01:40:37,841

And then, this isn't a bad movie,

but it's not a great movie.

:

01:40:38,210 --> 01:40:42,231

But it was fun reminiscing

about it with you, Andrew, and,

:

01:40:42,281 --> 01:40:42,880

Andrew: was great.

:

01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:43,391

I had a great

:

01:40:43,391 --> 01:40:43,721

time.

:

01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,741

Katie: Also, some of the

pop culture from:

:

01:40:46,741 --> 01:40:48,691

It was fun to go back in time with you.

:

01:40:48,691 --> 01:40:51,241

Thank you so much for

joining me on Retro Made.

:

01:40:51,541 --> 01:40:54,541

Please tell us where we can find you.

:

01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:56,266

Andrew: You find us.

:

01:40:56,266 --> 01:41:00,466

I have a YouTube channel, but that's

more just kind of doing let's plays

:

01:41:00,466 --> 01:41:04,186

and if we do anything a little bit

more visual, I'll put that up there.

:

01:41:04,236 --> 01:41:07,476

I'm on a network, the

B-I-C-B-P Radio Network.

:

01:41:07,606 --> 01:41:08,746

You can find us there.

:

01:41:08,866 --> 01:41:10,606

Spotify, apple Podcast.

:

01:41:10,606 --> 01:41:10,755

We're.

:

01:41:12,046 --> 01:41:14,116

Kind of had a little bit

problem with our feed.

:

01:41:14,116 --> 01:41:17,966

So my friend who runs the

network is archiving our old

:

01:41:17,966 --> 01:41:19,696

episodes into our new feed.

:

01:41:19,746 --> 01:41:20,286

That should all

:

01:41:20,286 --> 01:41:22,175

be caught up after a while.

:

01:41:22,505 --> 01:41:22,956

Katie: Awesome.

:

01:41:22,956 --> 01:41:26,856

Well, I will have links to where

we can find you in the show notes.

:

01:41:27,216 --> 01:41:29,196

So thanks again, Andrew,

:

01:41:29,371 --> 01:41:29,661

Andrew: This

:

01:41:29,766 --> 01:41:30,246

Katie: that

:

01:41:30,486 --> 01:41:36,066

That's it for our look at Curly Sue, a

bittersweet end to Hugh's directorial run.

:

01:41:36,096 --> 01:41:38,886

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01:41:41,826 --> 01:41:46,446

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