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7th Apr 2026

Baby's Day Out | S2E27

Welcome back to Retromade! Today we’re heading back to 1994, when pop culture was firing on all cylinders, to revisit Baby's Day Out, a movie that dares to ask: what if a baby could outwit three grown criminals without even trying? We’ll get into the chaos, the cartoon logic, and whether this one holds up at all + a quick trip through some 1994 trivia to set the scene.

Returning to the show is Milo Dennison from The 80s and 90s Uncensored podcast, who recently rolled out a new format.

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Katie:

Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and welcome back to

Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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Today we're heading back to 1994

when pop culture was firing on all

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cylinders, I must say, to revisit

Baby's Day Out, a movie that dares to

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ask, what if a baby could outwit three

grown criminals without even trying.

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We will get into the chaos,

the cartoon logic, and whether

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this one holds up at all.

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Plus a quick trip through some

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me is a returning guest, Milo Dennison

from the eighties and nineties which you

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recently rolled out a bit of an update.

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So Milo, good to have you back.

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Is there anything new with the show or

anything upcoming that you wanna tell

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us about and where we can find you?

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Milo: Yeah.

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Bit of a change in the show.

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I used to co-host it with a good

friend of mine, Jamie Fenderson,

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and so he's stepped back from

the show to focus on other areas.

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So it's a solo show now, and kind of

changed the format up a little bit.

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I'm doing a bit of just solo episodes

where I talk about interesting

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historic facts from the eighties

and nineties, and then bringing on

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a kind of a rotating guest host.

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Just had you on,

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which was fun.

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And so that'll be coming up here soon.

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And yeah, so kind of revitalized

it, reformatted a little bit,

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so we'll see how it goes.

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Katie: Nice.

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I'm looking forward to the new format

and see what episodes you have upcoming.

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Speaking of which, thank

you for having me on.

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So at some point an upcoming

episode I will tell you guys

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sneak peek is Sly versus Arnold.

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Which was super fun.

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I'm kind of surprised you guys hadn't

done that yet you know, given the eighties

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and nineties and the action of it all.

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But that does remind me before

we get into our discussion

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about 1994 and Baby's Day Out.

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If you do like sly movies, particularly

Rocky I'm lucky enough to get to join

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an excellent podcasting team discussing

this series in a very in-depth way.

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So much so that each movie is an

entire season and we've just wrapped

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our six seasons of coverage, but.

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It is all there for your binging pleasure.

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So the easiest way to find that is to

head over to YouTube and search for one

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more round the Rocky Series Podcast.

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So if you're into sly

I would check that out.

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And speaking of YouTube, while you're

there, please head on over to the Retro

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Made Podcast channel and subscribe.

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If you have not done so already

that's where you can see

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the episodes in video form.

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You can see me and my lovely guests

and you can actually comment and

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interact with the episodes right there.

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So please do so.

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But Milo, before we get into

Baby's Day Out, shall we open

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the time capsule from 1994?

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Milo: Let's do it.

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I remember 1994.

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So let's see what you've

got in your time capsule.

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Katie: All right, we're gonna,

spin the retro made trivia wheel

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So we just, we've covered some of

the categories already from:

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in one of the Christmas episodes.

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So John Hughes had a, he did the

remake of Miracle on 34th Street.

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I don't know if you

remember that one, Milo, but

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Milo: Yeah, I do remember that I really

liked the original Miracle on 34th

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Street, so I think it's one of those

films that shouldn't have been remade.

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Katie: Yeah, I think a lot

of people felt that way.

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It, it was quite good.

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But at any rate, check out that episode

if you're interested hearing my, my and

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my thoughts and my guest thoughts on that.

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But Milo, the reason

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I'm bringing that up is that if we

come to a category that we've already

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covered, we'll just spin again.

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So I'm gonna spin on your

behalf and we shall see.

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Pages of the past, I believe is fair game.

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As you might guess, this

is books and magazines.

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The literary world was a

mix of legal thrillers.

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There was a rise of Oprah's influence

on reading habits at this time, the

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debut of era defining magazines.

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So I've got some trivia questions.

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These are a little harder

than they usually are.

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I think sometimes my trivia

questions are too easy.

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But, which former attorney turned

author dominated the:

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lists with legal thrillers?

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Like the chamber?

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Milo: It is gotta be John Grisham.

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Katie: Yes.

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I didn't even need to finish

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Milo: No.

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Yeah.

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You, you had me at legal thrillers.

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Like he was, he was so huge

back then with his books.

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Like everybody was reading his books and

they were all being turned into movies.

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Katie: They, they were, I don't,

I should have looked up how

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many had turned into to movies.

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The client is one that definitely

was turned into a movie.

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I don't think I've read

any John Grisham novels.

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Milo: I think I've read one, didn't he?

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Did he write Congo?

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Katie: Oh, I don't know.

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Milo: If he wrote Congo,

then I read that one

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because I know I've read that I, and I

think he wrote that I could be wrong.

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But again, I'm not a huge, I'm not

really big on thrillers and, and

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especially like legal thrillers.

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So, yeah, that's probably

why I didn't read too many of

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Katie: That was definitely a

not my jam in the mid nineties.

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But it kind of is now, but there's

just so much stuff that I, you know,

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there's just a lot.

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But Good answer.

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Good answer.

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This one I think is, I don't

think I would get this correct,

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so I'd be shocked if you did.

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. This is where Oak was influenced.

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Is is coming into play.

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What, yeah.

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What?

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94 Cookbook became one of the

fastest selling books in history.

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After its author, if I say the

name, it might give it away.

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Appeared on the oprah

Winfrey Show to share.

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Secrets of Oprah's weight loss.

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Milo: oh.

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Is this like one of those fad diets

for a while that like everybody

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was only eating meat or something

like that, or I don't know.

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I, I, I,

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Katie: I, to be honest, I'm not sure.

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I am not familiar with this person.

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So listeners, let me know if you are.

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This one completely missed me.

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I don't think Oprah kept the weight.

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I think she's one of those

that kind of yo-yos with her

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weight.

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But the answer is in the kitchen

with Rosie Oprah's favorite recipes.

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Milo: Never heard of it.

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Katie: Same.

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I, I mean, I guess the book sold

over 5 million copies in its first

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year kind of showcasing the Oprah

effect in the publishing industry.

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But I guess in 94, I,

again, that was not my jam.

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Let's see.

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This one I think is also hard.

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I love true crime, but at

the time I wasn't into this

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and so this one missed me.

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Which nonfiction True Crime book by John

Baron debuted in 94, detailing a High

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Society murder in Savannah, Georgia,

went on to spend a record breaking

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216 weeks on the bestseller list.

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Milo: Oh, I do know

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this 'cause it was turned

into a movie actually

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as well.

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Gardens or something

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or something like

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Katie: Yes.

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Milo, you're on the right track.

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Milo: I can't remember the exact name.

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Katie: It is,

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Milo: Gardens of Louisiana

or something like that.

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Like something gardeny.

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Katie: yeah.

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It's midnight in The

Garden of Good and Evil.

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Milo: right.

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Yep.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I remember that.

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Katie: I don't,

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wow.

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Okay.

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Did you read it

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Milo: I did not read it.

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I just remember 'cause it was

so huge and I saw the movie.

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Katie: Okay.

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Was it any good?

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Milo: It was good.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Okay.

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Oh, I guess that the book Success

turned the City of Savannah into

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a major tourist destination.

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Milo: I believe that it was, they,

yeah, it was pretty, it was huge.

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I do re recall it being like a big, big

deal that how popular that book was.

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Katie: I did name my very first

dog that I adopted as an adult.

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Savannah.

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Milo: Hmm.

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Katie: if there was

something subconscious there.

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I just think it's a pretty name.

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But alright, the next question is, which

iconic fashion and lifestyle magazine

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known for its focus on celebrity homes

and get the look features like the cover

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would say, get so-and-so's look published.

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Its very first issue in June, 1994

with Barbara Streisand on the cover.

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Milo: I have no idea on this one.

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Katie: I don't think I

would get this either.

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Sorry, these are very hard,

but you're doing pretty well.

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It is in Style

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Milo: Okay, cool.

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Good for InStyle Magazine.

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That, I mean, I, I'm

sure I've heard of it.

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Katie: Oh, I've definitely

heard of In Style.

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I've read in Style.

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I didn't know it started

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at this time and yeah.

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Okay.

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Milo: of, I agree.

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I kind of feel like that

would've been an older magazine

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that had been around longer.

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Katie: Yeah, Yeah.

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totally.

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This one is sort of an

expansion of a magazine.

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So it started as a small health

newsletter and it became a global

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powerhouse in 94 by expanding its

lifestyle content to include things

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like ABS in six weeks like that style

of cover as well as relationship advice.

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Milo: Hmm.

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Not like GQ or Men's Health

or something like that.

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is it

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Katie: Men's health.

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Men's Health?

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yeah.

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Very good.

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Milo: I got two and a half, right.

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Katie: You did, were you

suckered in by the abs in six

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Milo: I was a men's health reader.

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Yeah.

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I, Yeah, I'd, I'd go like attempt

to be in shape and, and exercise

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occasionally and stuff like that.

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So I, I definitely, I read it for,

I had a subscription for a while.

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I was one of those people.

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Katie: I was suckered in by

all of the various contraptions

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for abs, I was big into

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abs.

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That must have been the thing

in, in the mid nineties.

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So I bought all of the infomercial.

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Style, like Suzanne Summers had, like

the Thigh Master, and there was like

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this ab, I can picture it, I don't

even remember what it was called, but

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I bought a bunch of AB related devices

that, you know, didn't really help

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Milo: It didn't actually do

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much.

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Yeah.

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Katie: yeah.

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I mean, I guess you had

to use it pretty regularly

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Milo: Apparently that makes a difference.

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Katie: I guess.

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All right, well let's, let's, let's

maybe find you an easier category.

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That was a really hard one.

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Milo: All right.

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Katie: Oh boy.

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It's on the cusp, but return to tune time.

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Milo: Tune time.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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This kind of leads towards

our topic a bit ish.

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Katie: a little, yes, it does.

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Now, 94, this was, you know,

I'm not watching Saturday

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morning cartoons at this time.

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But there was kind of a, there were

still peak in kid culture, the Saturday

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morning cartoons with the like A B,

CNBC and CBS, but there was a rising.

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Fox Kids Channel with a fair

amount of content that we're

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battling for our eyeballs there.

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So

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Milo: Yeah,

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Katie: keep that in mind.

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Yeah.

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Milo: that time that were getting big.

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Katie: Yeah.

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So keep that in mind.

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So the first, the first one

is a Fox Kids powerhouse,

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and it featured a team of mutants

led by a certain professor.

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And because if I say his

name, it'll give it away.

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Milo: I think I know where

you're going already on this one.

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Yeah.

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Katie: he became famous for its

iconic theme song and complex

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storylines like fe, the Phoenix Saga.

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I did not watch this, but

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I bet boys did,

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Milo: we did an episode about it actually

X-Men the animated series, and it was

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really well done because it did, it,

it, it dealt with a lot of adult themes.

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It dealt with like, you, the way

the mutants are treated, obviously

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that's the whole X-Men thing, right?

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And instead of just standalone

episodes, you had that like

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storyline that carried on throughout

the entire series as it evolved.

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So it was really, really well done.

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Katie: that actually really surprises me.

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I don't know why just that kind

of thing isn't for me so much.

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So I believe it maybe helped

pave the way for , all of the

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superhero movies that we have now,

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and that is a miss for me too.

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I, I'm sure they're all

wonderful, but they're not for me.

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Milo: I can understand that I, for

a while was into the, some of the

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superhero movies, but hey, they've

just been stunned so to death

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and the plot is the same

on every single one of 'em.

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And yeah, I can't watch 'em anymore.

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I've completely lost interest.

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But I would recommend Xmen the

animated series just because it

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was the precursor to all of this.

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And again, this is a cartoon directed

towards children that deals with a lot

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of adult subjects in a lot of ways.

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Katie: Well, that's good.

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: The next one I kind of put

in the same category also have not

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seen, but am aware of its place

in the pop culture zeitgeist.

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It is technically live action, and I

know we're in return to tune time, but

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it was a Saturday morning phenomenon and

it used Japanese super sai footage to

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tell the story of five teenagers with

attitude chosen by Zoan to save earth.

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Milo: Oh, is this that?

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I didn't watch it.

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That they, and then they kind of

combined and formed like a big me

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thing or something at some point.

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Katie: Maybe

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Milo: I know the show you're

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Katie: it's very, It

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was, everyone's probably screaming

because I mean, it was very popular.

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Milo: was so popular.

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Oh.

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I'm kicking myself for not

thinking of the name of it

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Katie: They each have a color,

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Milo: They do each have a color.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Give up.

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It's

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Milo: yeah.

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I'm gonna have to, it.

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I, I know I'll know it

as soon as you say it.

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Yeah, go

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Katie: it is the mighty

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Morphin Power Rangers.

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Milo: Yes.

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I'm an idiot.

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I can't believe I didn't think of that.

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Katie: They're probably vastly

different shows, but in my brain,

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it and the X-Men are the same.

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I don't know, maybe

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genre.

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Milo: Power Rangers I had

no interest in whatsoever,

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Katie: the next one I am familiar with.

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So, it is produced by Steven Spielberg.

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Milo: Is it Animas?

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Katie: It is, I didn't even,

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Milo: You didn't Once she

had me at Steven Spielberg.

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Yep.

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Katie: Boy, it won multiple daytime

Emmy awards and it was beloved by

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adults for he, for its pastiche

style and witty, fast-paced humor.

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Milo: Yeah, I didn't

get into Anim Maniacs.

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I kind of feel like I might have

felt I was too old for it at the

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Katie: Mm.

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Milo: Now I would probably appreciate it,

like I was at that age where I'm too old

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for cartoons, but too young to appreciate

cartoons as an older person that

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah,

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Milo: kinda where I was

when Anim Maniacs came out.

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Katie: similar.

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I feel like it was just on,

sometimes it either came on before

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or after something that I did watch.

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So I'm aware of it, but I,

I was never a fan per se.

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The next one I'm also familiar

with, but I didn't watch it.

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There was also a video game series,

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Milo: Okay.

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Katie: Darker story driven cartoon

featuring blue bur as the leader

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of a group of freedom fighters

rebelling against the tyrannical, Dr.

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Robotnik Robotnik.

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I don't know how they pronounce it.

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Milo: Okay.

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This one doesn't ring a bell.

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Katie: That clue wouldn't help me.

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I will say it's an animal.

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The main character is an animal.

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Milo: Okay.

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I'm still lost.

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Mm-hmm.

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Katie: and there were two, uh hmm.

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I don't know what the other one is.

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There were two different cartoons

like this with the same character

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airing at the same time.

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This version was known for its

more serious tone compared to

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the slapstick weekday version.

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Maybe that's the one

I'm more familiar with.

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There's a video game of the same name,

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Milo: Clueless.

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Katie: Sonic the Hedgehog.

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Milo: Oh gee.

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That's right.

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They did a sonic the head.

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I forgot that there even

was a sonic cartoon.

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Katie: Me too.

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Milo: you're right.

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Yeah, I remember.

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I know they did the boobies

and I actually had the game.

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I had the little PlayStation portable

or whatever it was called, the little

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portable one, and I had that game.

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I, yeah, I totally forgot

that they did a sonic cartoon.

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Completely forgot about it,

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Katie: I feel like the, I.

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I was at a friend's house

once and they had a Sega, like

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a different gaming console.

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Milo: or, yeah.

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Sega, not Sony.

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I mean, sorry, I

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Katie: I don't know if the, it was you,

if it was only made available for Sega.

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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It was,

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Katie: So then you gotta buy all the

gaming consoles if you wanna play the

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games.

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I mean, this is how they get you, man.

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Last question.

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Milo: Okay.

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Let's see if I do better on this one.

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Katie: You probably will.

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Okay.

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It's debuting in late 1994, which

Marvel series followed a certain

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person's life at Empire State

University, while balancing being a

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hero and dealing with the sinister six.

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If I give Peter Parker

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Milo: Was it a Spider-Man cartoon?

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Was it like spider, so I'm

guessing some kinda Spider-Man

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Katie: Yeah.

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Spider-Man, the animated series.

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Milo: Oh, okay.

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Katie: Yeah, I, I didn't either, I didn't

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watch any of these.

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But I guess it was like really

big ratings wise on Fox Kids.

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Milo: Wow.

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Good for it.

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I remember watching a previous iteration

of Spider-Man when I was younger.

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They must have done in yeah.

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Seventies or eighties

version of Spider-Man.

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That one I watched, but this one

I, yeah, I guess I wouldn't have

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like the, the thing is like 94.

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I mean, that would've been, I would've

been in college at the time for me.

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So, just finishing just outta high

school, just going into college.

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So my

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Katie: This is so

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Milo: on that kind of stuff at that time.

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Yeah.

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Katie: well, let's spin another

category because you, you've

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gotten really hard ones, Milo, as

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the cartoon.

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The cartoon one is especially hard if the

eighties ones are easier 'cause we were.

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Like, at least like I was a kid then.

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Milo: Yeah, exactly.

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Age's, cartoons.

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I can, I can remember all that.

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Katie: Okay.

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I feel like given your age

at this time, you would know

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some of these from Retro Runway.

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Milo: Okay.

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Claudia Schaffer.

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Katie: Oh, oh my God.

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I loved her.

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I was obsessed.

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All the magazines had all the

supermodels in the nineties.

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Man, I, it's no wonder we

all have eating disorders.

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:

Um,

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Milo: To those magazines.

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Katie: So it was 94 was your

fashion officially split

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between gritty and glossy.

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So you either looked like you

just rolled out of a garage band

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practice or like you were heading

to a high-end mall in Beverly Hills.

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Milo: Oh yeah.

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It was totally garage band.

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Katie: So speaking of this one's the

giveaway, but inspired by the Seattle

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music scene, which you're in Seattle,

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:

right?

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Milah.

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Milo: Yep.

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Yep.

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Cringe the style that Seattle

brought to the world and the world

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has been suffering from ever since.

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Katie: Well, specifically,

so you said grunge,

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but there's a, what was the plaid shirt

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Milo: Oh, the flannel shirts.

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yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I have a couple still, I think probably.

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Katie: I have flannel

shirts, but not in a grungy

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way.

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Like they're from J Crew.

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So I,

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Milo: well that's fashionable then.

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Katie: Yeah.

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like the more, the glossy

version of it, I suppose.

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So Kurt Cobain passed in 94.

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And so he made it famous to be like

anti fashionable, hence this whole

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grunge look, but high end designers

like Mark Jacobs famously brought

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the look to the runway, which Kurt

was probably like, damn the man, you

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know?

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Milo: probably.

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Katie: Plaid was a big, I'm, picture

the movie Clueless for this question.

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Milo: Okay,

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Katie: which schoolgirl aesthetic

featuring pleaded plaid skirts

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and matching blazers became a

massive trend thanks to Oh, thanks

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to filming the 1990 95 movie.

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Clueless.

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Milo: so this was like a women's style

that was like called something like

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the short skirts that they wore Then,

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Katie: It was, it was two specific

items, and I kind of already gave

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it away, but yet you said short

skirts, so plaid mini skirts

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Milo: I remember

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Katie: and what were paired with them

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Milo: are we going for like

the boots, like the, the like,

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what's the appropriate word?

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Like, we used to call

'em, fuck me boots, but

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Katie: like the Kneehigh boots.

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But this is

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Milo: Yeah.

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I'm like, what, what, what are you

supposed to say on on a podcast thing?

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That's not, that's

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Katie: Those boots still work.

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Like I, I gotta say I love a tall

boot, but it's not the boots.

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This is like, if you picture, if you

didn't wear a tall boot, you still

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wore if you wore Mary Jane style shoes,

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what?

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Milo: The stockings.

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Katie: What were they,

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Milo: Oh, there was a

name for the stockings.

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Katie: like, how would you describe them?

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Milo: Yeah, so they like, so you would

actually see like the top of the stocking.

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Like they, they would come up and then

so you actually had this like kinda

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gap between the top of the stocking

and then where the skirt started, and

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so you could see a little leg there.

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It was quite a sexy style.

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I have to, I have to.

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Yeah.

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That takes me back.

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Girls back then were hot.

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Katie: Uhhuh, I mean, clue.

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Yes.

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:

Clueless was

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It So yeah.

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Plaid, moony, skirts and kneehigh,

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:

like kneehigh

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Milo: Kneehigh stockings.

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Yeah, I remember that

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Katie: Yeah.

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It's a good

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look.

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:

Milo: It was a good time to be alive

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:

Katie: it was,

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Milo: in college.

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:

Katie: yes.

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Now not hot.

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:

I mean, I don't know, maybe

guys think it's cute, but

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it's, it's a, a denim staple

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:

kind of became like hip hop

culture icons would wear this

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:

Milo: you talking about the baggy jeans?

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Katie: similar.

539

:

It's a lot of times they would

wear, this is gonna give it away,

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:

but one shoulder strap, unbuckled.

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Milo: Oh, the overalls?

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:

Yeah.

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:

Yeah, that's right.

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:

Yeah.

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:

The big baggy overalls with

one shoulder step undone.

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Katie: Yep.

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:

Yep.

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:

That's, that's a trend.

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:

Yeah.

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:

Can you name a specific brand

of, of this type of thing

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:

Milo: Levi's,

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Katie: that Yes, probably,

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Milo: I'm sure they must have done him

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:

Katie: it's like brand, so Oshkosh Bash.

555

:

Mm-hmm.

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And cross colors that

I'm not familiar with.

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:

Were go-to names for this particular look,

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apparently.

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Milo: Yeah.

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:

that's right.

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:

I do remember Oshkosh posh.

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:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

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:

What type Fitting necklace accessory

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Milo: Oh, the choker.

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:

Katie: Yes.

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:

Milo: Oh man.

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:

Another hot one.

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:

I knew this girl that wore those.

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Oh, she was gorgeous.

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:

Katie: Yeah.

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:

I mean, mid nineties, I

572

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mean, Yeah.

573

:

Became a must have jewelry item

for every teenage girl in:

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I also had

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one.

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:

Milo: Yeah.

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:

Katie: Can you name a store that you might

find this particular item in, in the mall?

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:

Milo: Oh, mall store.

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:

What was the oh, there was one and

it was like, kind of, everything was

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really dark at the time in the store.

581

:

Like,

582

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Katie: are thinking of hot topic?

583

:

Milo: topic.

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:

Yeah.

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:

I was thinking a hot topic.

586

:

Mm-hmm.

587

:

Katie: That is also a

store that sold these.

588

:

But this is like an accessory store.

589

:

They also have a bazillion

scrunchies that we all would buy.

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:

Milo: Mm-hmm.

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:

I'm not sure on this

592

:

one.

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:

Katie: Claire's,

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:

Milo: Okay.

595

:

I, I, I,

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know Claire's the name.

597

:

Yeah.

598

:

Yeah.

599

:

But I would've never have

thought of that though.

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:

Katie: This one you kind of

already said it's, it's adjacent.

601

:

But I think this is

probably more for boys.

602

:

It is a denim trend.

603

:

Milo: Okay.

604

:

The bag of jeans thing, the the

jorts, the, the Kevin Sp wears all the

605

:

time with his log baggy jean shorts,

606

:

Katie: No, but it's the saggy,

baggy jeans so that they were so

607

:

oversized that the hems would like

fray from being drug on the ground.

608

:

Tommy Hilfiger was a

popular brand at this time.

609

:

Is there another brand

that you can think of?

610

:

Milo: besides Levi Wrangler.

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:

Katie: Jenko.

612

:

Jenko.

613

:

Remember that

614

:

Milo: no.

615

:

I remember the style.

616

:

Here's the thing, if you think

about this, like think:

617

:

The women looked gorgeous and

the men looked disgusting.

618

:

Baggy jeans and flannel shirts with a

like just rattle T-shirt underneath it.

619

:

Like it was just this complete

opposite of like styles wise.

620

:

And I remember the baggy jeans, I remember

once watching a guy kind of running across

621

:

the street and he had to like hike up

his jeans and hold onto 'em so he could

622

:

run across the street really quick.

623

:

And then he let go of his jeans

again and kind of they drop

624

:

down and does the cool walk.

625

:

Yeah.

626

:

People looked ridiculous.

627

:

Our

628

:

Katie: Yeah, there's a specific walk

629

:

I can picture like a bunch of

dopey, like white dudes, like short

630

:

dopey, like stoner white

dudes wearing this.

631

:

But this particular, this was kind

of a trend particularly with Tommy

632

:

Hilfiger, I guess they saw really

big sales hike after Snoop Dogg

633

:

wore a Hilfiger sweatshirt on SNL.

634

:

Milo: Ooh.

635

:

Katie: So they were, kind of

known then for this street wear.

636

:

And I can actually picture a girl

that I went to high school with

637

:

wore like all Tommy Hilfiger stuff

for her senior pictures it was

638

:

so much part of our like culture.

639

:

Milo: He was very

popular around that time.

640

:

You're right, a lot of people were

wearing Tommy Hilfiger type stuff.

641

:

Katie: Yeah.

642

:

Well, Milo,

643

:

you did pretty good.

644

:

You did pretty

645

:

Milo: completely suck, I

guess, but got some of it.

646

:

Katie: Yeah, I would

say those were harder.

647

:

I wanted to purposefully

make these questions harder.

648

:

'cause I feel like trivia is

usually a little too easy.

649

:

And sometimes when I have

guests that are not American,

650

:

a lot of the pop culture things are,

they're a little harder for them.

651

:

I apparently but without further ado,

shall we get into Baby's Day Out?

652

:

Milo: Oh, let's do it.

653

:

Yeah.

654

:

Katie: We, we shall so this movie, baby's

st,:

655

:

Pg obviously it is a little long for

this type of movie, about an hour and 40

656

:

minutes, but it's, IMDB rating is a 6.2,

657

:

which isn't bad.

658

:

That's pretty good.

659

:

Milo: I wanna know who's giving it those.

660

:

Right.

661

:

Well, if we can get into this film a

662

:

Katie: we will.

663

:

Milo: And, and I should preface

it's, I'm not the target

664

:

audience for this film at all.

665

:

Katie: Who would you say

is the target audience?

666

:

Milo: well, I think maybe that's probably

part of the problem with this film,

667

:

because I think the target audience

for this film is people too young to

668

:

watch this film and appreciate it.

669

:

'Cause if you're old enough to watch

it, you probably think it's stupid.

670

:

If you're a parent watching it, you're

watching it because you want your kid to

671

:

watch it if you're a child watching it.

672

:

I, I don't, I don't know.

673

:

I don't know if it would be interesting.

674

:

I don't know who is the target

audience for this six year olds.

675

:

Katie: You know, well, we will get into

676

:

it.

677

:

I would say John Hughes having done this

season after the success of Home Alone.

678

:

And Home alone.

679

:

Two, he made so many movies that

just kind of tried to recreate that.

680

:

Almost all of them did

not succeed in doing so.

681

:

I have some specific thoughts about

where Babies' Day outfits among all

682

:

of those movies that we'll get to.

683

:

But the players for this movie, we

have a director that we have not

684

:

talked about yet on Retro Made,

and I think there's a reason why.

685

:

His name is Patrick Reed Johnson.

686

:

He doesn't have very

many well-known credits.

687

:

And he was initially hired to direct

another kind of knockoff of, of Home

688

:

Alone, Dennis Aena, the year earlier.

689

:

Now Patrick Reid Johnson apparently

was trying to expand on some of the

690

:

concepts and Hughes fired him because

he didn't like the fact that he was

691

:

kind of trying to change his script.

692

:

So he hired Nick Castle

to direct that movie.

693

:

So after that, Hughes actually

called Johnson to apologize

694

:

and offered him this movie.

695

:

It seems Hughes can ha he's a very

specific personality, a as I'm learning.

696

:

So he and this Patrick Reed Johnson

did not get along with Hughes.

697

:

Clearly.

698

:

He got fired from one job and then

he was hired for this and they

699

:

were continuously fighting over

different cuts poor test screenings.

700

:

So they both got stressed out and

just decided to be done with it.

701

:

But.

702

:

I also read that after a bad test

screening they got in a heated argument

703

:

regarding the movie and they reached

a, a mutual agreement to meet the

704

:

following day to discuss possible

solutions for improving the film.

705

:

However, later that evening is when the

announcement of John Candy's passing

706

:

was announced and that news given

Hughes and John Candy were so close,

707

:

really, really, really affected Hughes.

708

:

So he just completely stopped giving

a shit and didn't communicate after

709

:

that at all anymore with the director.

710

:

So, thoughts about this?

711

:

Milo: that's understandable.

712

:

I mean, if he already was not happy with

the film and just not in the mindset

713

:

of really bothering with it all that

much anymore, and then your good friend

714

:

like that dies, I can kind of see that.

715

:

I can kind of see him like

being, you know what, I'm done.

716

:

I got paid, my job's done here.

717

:

I'm, you know,

718

:

I'm John Hughes.

719

:

I'll move on.

720

:

You know, I'll survive.

721

:

Katie: That is true.

722

:

Apparently he was extremely hands-on

and involved with this particular

723

:

pre-production process of Baby's Day Out.

724

:

But by the middle of filming even some

staff and crew kind of got annoyed

725

:

'cause he just completely backed off

leaving them frustrated with him.

726

:

Even while they were still

filming and I learned that there

727

:

was a script he was writing.

728

:

So that he was trying

to get off the ground.

729

:

So he has a tendency to do do that.

730

:

He's like not finished with one

project yet, and he, then he gets

731

:

really excited about another one.

732

:

Have you heard of a script

that he wrote called The Be

733

:

Milo: I've heard of it, but that's

all I know is that I heard something

734

:

about it, but it never happened.

735

:

Right.

736

:

It was

737

:

just something that he wrote.

738

:

Yeah.

739

:

Katie: yeah, it unmade Live Action,

slapstick Comedy about a Be Who Constantly

740

:

Distracts a developer who is almost done

building his latest project at this time.

741

:

That was the type of movie

John Hughes was involved with.

742

:

All of these, like Dennis the Manis

Baby's Day Out you know, like there was

743

:

Home Alone three I'm missing several

more that are just not coming to mind.

744

:

Just not, not good replications

of the Home Alone formula.

745

:

So, so anyway.

746

:

If you have not seen Babies'

Day Out, which I hadn't had,

747

:

have you seen this before?

748

:

Watching it for the show?

749

:

Milo: No, I had heard of it, but I had

never seen it or knew anything about it

750

:

other than it follows a baby that wanders

through the city and comedy ensues.

751

:

Katie: Yes, that's

exactly what it's about.

752

:

Babies' Day Out follows a wealthy family's

infant who's kidnapped by three bumbling

753

:

criminals only for the baby to crawl

his way through a citywide adventure

754

:

unknowingly outsmarting them, and a

return as the crook struggled to keep up.

755

:

The baby follows the path of his

favorite storybook titled Baby's

756

:

Day Out, turning Their Plan into

a Chaotic Slapstick Nightmare.

757

:

So on its face, that sounds like

not a bad kids movie, right?

758

:

Like if you just read the synopsis

of Home Alone, it doesn't sound that

759

:

dissimilar like a, like an 8-year-old,

like outwitting these bumbling criminals.

760

:

But there was just, there was

something special and magical about

761

:

that, that he Hughes was just not

able to replicate with any of these

762

:

other one-off or even subsequent

like home alone three, not good,

763

:

Really not good.

764

:

So this, I will say as a spoiler,

I like Baby's Day Out significantly

765

:

more than home Alone three.

766

:

Milo: I have not seen Home Alone

three, so I can't say on that one.

767

:

Although I, I, this is a problem I

think a lot of filmmakers and movie

768

:

studios have, is they have something

successful and then they just kinda

769

:

rehash it over and over again.

770

:

It gets tired over time and it's

not funny anymore because it's

771

:

funny, the first time you see it,

772

:

Katie: Yes.

773

:

Milo: you know, it's not funny jokes.

774

:

You know, you see somebody slip

and fall and, and hit their nuts on

775

:

something, first time around, it's funny.

776

:

Hit the third or fourth time

around, it's not funny anymore

777

:

because you know the humor.

778

:

You know it.

779

:

And, and that's what this is exactly.

780

:

There's so many recycled comedic slapstick

bits from home alone in this film.

781

:

It's it, and at least in home

alone, you've got the Macaulay

782

:

Culkin's character outwitting these

783

:

Katie: On purpose.

784

:

Milo: on purpose.

785

:

Exactly.

786

:

So you can, you can root for this is

just a baby crawling around in the street

787

:

that somehow magically never gets seen

by like anyone in this entire city except

788

:

for like two people at various points.

789

:

So,

790

:

Yeah, it's, harder.

791

:

So

792

:

I don't

793

:

Katie: that's where the, like him not

being seen, I mean like everybody's just

794

:

so busy with their life that they don't,

795

:

Milo: They don't see a baby crawling

directly underneath their feet,

796

:

Katie: Yeah.

797

:

Or crawling across

798

:

a busy street or anything.

799

:

I mean, so that's where like the

cartoonish it's, it's sort of like

800

:

Looney Tunes in that way, combined

with a lot of the slapstick stuff.

801

:

We'll get into our thoughts, but

let's talk about the cast and some

802

:

of the players for in the movie.

803

:

And I will say the cast is probably

why I like this movie way more

804

:

than like Dennis the Menace or

Home Alone three, for example.

805

:

The baby is played by twins

that you wouldn't know.

806

:

But that's, that was common practice.

807

:

Adam, Robert Wharton and Jacob Joseph

Wharton, and the baby's name here.

808

:

Rich kid name Bennington, Austin, AKA bank

caught, well, IV fourth, his mother is

809

:

played by Laura Flynn Boyle it was kind

of a different role for her, I guess.

810

:

She had gone on to play kind of more

high powered women and not like a

811

:

mother and wife, but she was fine.

812

:

She, she was not outstanding.

813

:

Like she's not one of the cast that I

was like, oh my gosh, they're so good.

814

:

Oh, and the father here is

let's see, what's his name?

815

:

Matthew gla and he plays Bennington,

Bing, not bank, but Bing caught while

816

:

ii.

817

:

He's a familiar face.

818

:

Did you

819

:

recognize

820

:

Milo: him.

821

:

Yeah.

822

:

He's, he's popped up in a

lot of stuff over the years.

823

:

Mm-hmm.

824

:

Katie: A lot of TV work.

825

:

Right.

826

:

And I, a lot of these, so I've seen

er, but I don't recall him from er, but

827

:

that's probably his most notable role.

828

:

He was Dr.

829

:

Dale Edson as a recurring character on

er, and I feel like I've seen the show

830

:

Army Wives, but I didn't really get

into it, but I feel like I've seen it.

831

:

He played Lieutenant Colonel Evan

Connors on that, and he's currently

832

:

on the TV show, the Rookie.

833

:

So that is Matthew Gla

834

:

the dad.

835

:

Milo: yeah.

836

:

Yeah.

837

:

Done a few movies and stuff.

838

:

Yeah, he's got a lot

of credits to his name.

839

:

He's one of those.

840

:

You'd totally recognize him.

841

:

He is not a big name, so you'd

be like, oh, I know that guy,

842

:

but I don't know his name.

843

:

He's

844

:

Katie: know his face though, for sure.

845

:

Milo: Yeah.

846

:

He's very recommend.

847

:

Katie: Did you like our criminals

848

:

Milo: You know, it's,

I, I like those actors.

849

:

I mean, I don't, I don't know

Brian Healy at all from this.

850

:

This is the only thing I've ever seen

him and he plays kind of the big doofus

851

:

one, but Joe Montia and Joe Pan Panio,

852

:

Katie: Yeah.

853

:

It's hard to, it's a, it's a mouth of

854

:

panto.

855

:

Milo: Pantano,

856

:

yeah, there you go.

857

:

Joey.

858

:

Joey Packed obviously are brilliant and

I mean, and you know, Joe Pano, you know,

859

:

can do comedy from the Goonies, right?

860

:

Because he was so good in

that and he's got range.

861

:

And Joe Monteya is good because you

think of him as more of a dramatic actor.

862

:

And so to see him doing slap

sticky comedy kind of stuff,

863

:

it's fun to see him as well.

864

:

So I, I thought the both

of them were brilliant.

865

:

Yeah, Brian was fine too, but again, he

just kind of plays the big kind of goon,

866

:

Katie: he had some fun moments

867

:

though.

868

:

So yeah, so Joe Mont Montana

plays like kind of the head goon,

869

:

right?

870

:

His name is Eddie.

871

:

He's in the Criminal Minds

TV show, which I don't watch.

872

:

But he's gotten pretty, like, he's

a well-known name, maybe from that.

873

:

He voices Fat Tony on The Simpsons.

874

:

I don't watch that show either, but if

anybody knows that of his earlier roles,

875

:

he well, maybe not one of his earlier,

but godfather three was that:

876

:

And he,

877

:

Milo: Was it that late?

878

:

That

879

:

Katie: it might've been, ah, but

880

:

he plays,

881

:

Milo: right.

882

:

Like I, yeah, I mean, it

883

:

was, I'm thinking late

eighties, but maybe it was:

884

:

Yeah.

885

:

Katie: I could be wrong.

886

:

Milo: No, I think you're right.

887

:

You're,

888

:

I,

889

:

Katie: plays Joey Zaza in that.

890

:

And he was nominated for some

Emmys for things I have not seen.

891

:

He played Dean Martin in the Rat Pack

and then some other miniseries movies

892

:

or specials that he was nominated for

the Starter Wife and the last Dawn.

893

:

But every, you know, Joe Nia very

specifically, so he plays Eddie the

894

:

main bad guy and like maybe secondhand

guy is Norby, and that's Joey Pants.

895

:

I love him, if he's in something, I think.

896

:

This, I'm not used to seeing

him in this kind of a thing.

897

:

Same with Joe Montia.

898

:

But Bad Boys, he's

really comedic in that he

899

:

plays their like their boss.

900

:

Right?

901

:

Yeah.

902

:

Milo: Yeah.

903

:

Uhhuh.

904

:

Yeah, he's good in that.

905

:

Katie: Super well-known character actor.

906

:

I was just talking with someone

about the movie Lab Baba.

907

:

So this came to mind, he

plays Richie Valent's manager

908

:

in Lab Baba.

909

:

And we talked about him last season

on our Kurt Russell and Patrick Svey

910

:

season because he was in the main season

911

:

with Kurt Russell.

912

:

I bet you have not seen that

913

:

Milo: I have not seen that movie.

914

:

No.

915

:

Katie: Joey is in that

916

:

now Vico is played by Brian

Haley, and he's the lesser known.

917

:

I think he has a familiar face also.

918

:

Milo: I thought he was somebody else.

919

:

'cause he does have a familiar

face and I'm like, oh, is

920

:

that that such and such guy?

921

:

And then I looked him up a little

bit and I'm like, Nope, that's

922

:

not the guy I was thinking of at

923

:

Katie: Okay.

924

:

He was in Grand

925

:

Milo: a ton of stuff though.

926

:

Yeah.

927

:

Katie: Like nothing

928

:

real big, I guess.

929

:

He did have a recurring, I, I saw that he

had a recurring role on the TV show wings.

930

:

Like that's probably the most

episodes of a TV show he had.

931

:

He's also in Little Giants, which

I can't really picture right

932

:

now, but I actually kind of got

a kick out of Vico several times.

933

:

Just little things that he would do, like

, they just kidnapped the baby and it's

934

:

three criminals taking care of a baby.

935

:

Like that part of it.

936

:

I was like, oh, this is kind of funny.

937

:

I'm like, this is, I like this.

938

:

That's funny.

939

:

They don't know what they're doing.

940

:

It's like three men and a

baby, but criminal version.

941

:

And in that, the scene where they're

trying to change his diaper and get

942

:

milk warmed up for him or whatever Vico

is shown eating fruit loops, but he

943

:

overfills his bowl like the mound of

cereal, and he's holding it with his

944

:

hand, like trying to keep it in the

bowl while he's pouring milk on it.

945

:

And I mean, it was just

something very specific.

946

:

But I, I don't know.

947

:

I, I kind of liked some of those

little things that these guys do.

948

:

Now, because these are rich

people, there's a nanny and

949

:

Cynthia Nixon plays the nanny.

950

:

Apparently her name is Gilbert team,

but do you recall them ever saying

951

:

Milo: I don't recall them

ever saying your name.

952

:

No,

953

:

Katie: don't either.

954

:

She's blonde in this, she's much younger.

955

:

And is she supposed to be British?

956

:

Milo: I think she's

supposed to be British.

957

:

She definitely uses a

bit of an accent in it.

958

:

Katie: I wasn't sure if

it was like rich, posh,

959

:

Milo: Well, maybe that's it.

960

:

Yeah, I was going with that.

961

:

She was like the British nanny because

that's what you do if you're rich.

962

:

You hire a British nanny to

take care of your child for you.

963

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

964

:

So I wasn't entirely sure, but yeah,

she's probably supposed to be British.

965

:

Obviously Cynthia Nixon most famous

for playing Miranda on Sex in the city.

966

:

We have a very FBI agent esque

actor here playing an FBI agent

967

:

Dale Grissom is Fred Thompson.

968

:

Milo: Pretty much anytime you

need somebody to play a cop

969

:

in any form, you hire Fred Thompson.

970

:

If you look over his history, that's

kind of very similar types of roles.

971

:

Mm-hmm.

972

:

Katie: he's perfect for that kind of role.

973

:

We talked about him on the

Curly suit episode, and now

974

:

I'm like, was he a cop in that?

975

:

I can't recall

976

:

now.

977

:

But probably, again, these are rich

people, so they have a butler and I don't

978

:

think they say his name in it either,

979

:

but he's credited as Mr.

980

:

Andrews played by John Neville.

981

:

Also familiar face, like there's

a lot of these people in this that

982

:

you're like, I know that person.

983

:

But I couldn't find a show or

a movie that I was like, yes,

984

:

that's what I know him from.

985

:

But he had a recurring

guest role on the X-Files.

986

:

Milo: Oh yeah.

987

:

Okay.

988

:

Yeah,

989

:

Katie: Did you recognize the guy that the

police, he's like, oh, I saw the baby.

990

:

And then he's just really

trying to get a payday.

991

:

And he's like, oh, just across the street.

992

:

Milo: I remember the guy.

993

:

No.

994

:

Was I supposed to recognize him?

995

:

Katie: Yes.

996

:

Milo: Oh, who is

997

:

Katie: Mike Starr is his name,

998

:

Milo: Uhhuh.

999

:

Katie: He's a, a very

familiar character actor.

:

00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,320

Like he's tall, Burley

has this deep voice.

:

00:45:57,380 --> 00:46:03,800

He usually plays mobsters or

police officers or, or like blue

:

00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,570

collar workers or tough guys.

:

00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:06,980

And

:

00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:08,030

Milo: bar, huh?

:

00:46:08,330 --> 00:46:09,590

Katie: Mike Starr with

:

00:46:09,590 --> 00:46:13,620

two Rs he played Frenchy and Goodfellas.

:

00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:15,450

Milo: Oh geez.

:

00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:16,950

I do recognize him now.

:

00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:18,240

Like I just looked him up.

:

00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,980

I did not put this together when I

watched it, but he, you're right.

:

00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,330

I totally recognize him.

:

00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:27,150

I just looked him up on I mdb

and his like from his picture.

:

00:46:27,475 --> 00:46:27,895

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:46:28,110 --> 00:46:28,410

Yeah.

:

00:46:28,415 --> 00:46:29,695

Totally recognizable.

:

00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:30,660

He.

:

00:46:31,245 --> 00:46:34,185

We talked about him in the

Uncle Buck episode because he

:

00:46:34,185 --> 00:46:37,425

plays the clown that John Candy.

:

00:46:37,875 --> 00:46:39,195

I think he punches him out

:

00:46:39,555 --> 00:46:40,725

when he comes or something.

:

00:46:40,755 --> 00:46:43,605

'cause he's a very obnoxious clown.

:

00:46:43,925 --> 00:46:49,205

There's two other not like they're in it

for just a short while, but I wanted to

:

00:46:49,205 --> 00:46:50,735

bring them up because we've covered them.

:

00:46:50,865 --> 00:46:55,185

They're Hughes movie alums that

he comes back to several times.

:

00:46:55,185 --> 00:47:00,105

One is Eddie Bracken, and this

was his final live action film.

:

00:47:00,565 --> 00:47:05,005

Eddie Bracken was the like the

older man in the veteran's home.

:

00:47:05,515 --> 00:47:06,085

Milo: Oh, that guy.

:

00:47:06,085 --> 00:47:06,655

Okay.

:

00:47:06,655 --> 00:47:06,665

Yeah.

:

00:47:08,185 --> 00:47:13,388

Katie: He played basically

Walt Disney in vacation.

:

00:47:13,801 --> 00:47:20,958

and he was also, I think the toy

store owner in, was it home Alone too?

:

00:47:22,248 --> 00:47:22,728

Milo: Hmm.

:

00:47:23,043 --> 00:47:25,113

Katie: the toy store owner in home alone.

:

00:47:25,113 --> 00:47:25,653

Two.

:

00:47:26,073 --> 00:47:26,883

Eddie Bracken.

:

00:47:26,988 --> 00:47:30,018

Milo: So he just likes throwing him in

these little spots throughout his films.

:

00:47:30,078 --> 00:47:30,258

That's

:

00:47:30,273 --> 00:47:30,313

cool.

:

00:47:31,023 --> 00:47:32,823

Katie: And also Neil Flynn.

:

00:47:33,093 --> 00:47:38,883

We just talked about him 'cause he also

played a police officer in home alone.

:

00:47:38,883 --> 00:47:39,453

Three.

:

00:47:39,753 --> 00:47:40,803

So Neil Flynn

:

00:47:40,833 --> 00:47:40,983

Milo: Ooh.

:

00:47:41,313 --> 00:47:41,523

Yeah.

:

00:47:41,523 --> 00:47:41,733

Neil

:

00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:42,033

Flynn's

:

00:47:42,063 --> 00:47:42,633

Katie: police officer.

:

00:47:43,083 --> 00:47:43,503

Yeah.

:

00:47:43,773 --> 00:47:45,153

Milo: most famous for Scrubs.

:

00:47:45,723 --> 00:47:46,923

Katie: That's Neil Flynn.

:

00:47:47,043 --> 00:47:47,523

Yes.

:

00:47:47,973 --> 00:47:52,610

Bruce Bratton, I don't know if I'm

saying that properly, but he did the

:

00:47:52,610 --> 00:47:59,360

score, the music for this, which we have

talked about him before because he also

:

00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:05,520

did the score also in:

Hughes Miracle on 34th Street and last

:

00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:09,600

season Tombstone, he scored tombstone.

:

00:48:09,665 --> 00:48:11,460

Milo: He tore, he scored tombstone.

:

00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:14,790

I would not have put those

together because, I mean,

:

00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:17,340

tombstone is such a fantastic film.

:

00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:24,005

To go from that to this but I will say the

music really plays a role in this film.

:

00:48:24,305 --> 00:48:28,235

Like throughout the entire thing,

you notice it and it really goes

:

00:48:28,235 --> 00:48:33,685

along with the slap stick and comedic

to help highlight the,, the film.

:

00:48:34,015 --> 00:48:36,685

It is noticeable and we even talked

about that when we watched it.

:

00:48:36,685 --> 00:48:40,105

We're like, you really notice the

how the music plays a role in this

:

00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,020

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:41,950 --> 00:48:50,180

He only had three weeks to score this also

because originally Jerry Goldsmith, Oscar

:

00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:52,610

winning composer was slated to score this.

:

00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:53,690

But he had to bow out.

:

00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:57,440

was doing the shadow also in:

:

00:48:57,590 --> 00:48:58,850

I don't know what that is.

:

00:48:59,135 --> 00:49:03,455

Milo: It's it's kind of a superhero

action film starring the shadow.

:

00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:04,820

Katie: The shadow.

:

00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,120

So Bruce was brought in to score this.

:

00:49:08,220 --> 00:49:12,470

And then other movies that you'd know

him from Harry and The Hendersons.

:

00:49:12,830 --> 00:49:14,000

Milo: Oh, the movie?

:

00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:15,290

Yeah.

:

00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:15,560

All right.

:

00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:20,990

Katie: Disney's Rescuers down

under, as well as Homeward Bound God

:

00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:22,670

that'll Get You right.

:

00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:23,240

Milo: yeah.

:

00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,190

I love those rescuers movies.

:

00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:25,640

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:26,390

Milo: yeah,

:

00:49:26,990 --> 00:49:30,440

Katie: And also Bruce got an

Oscar nomination for his score of

:

00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,630

Silverado, which I have not seen.

:

00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:39,830

And also the:

the 20th Century Fox Fanfare

:

00:49:40,370 --> 00:49:41,030

sound.

:

00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,270

Milo: Oh, the, the sound effect that Oh,

:

00:49:44,660 --> 00:49:44,900

wow.

:

00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,260

Good for him.

:

00:49:46,445 --> 00:49:48,905

Katie: Yeah, so that's

Bruce Broughton Broten.

:

00:49:49,335 --> 00:49:51,225

I don't know how to

properly pronounce that.

:

00:49:51,225 --> 00:49:53,895

Someone might correct me if I am wrong.

:

00:49:54,495 --> 00:49:54,765

Okay.

:

00:49:54,765 --> 00:49:58,725

So this movie did not make money.

:

00:49:58,725 --> 00:50:00,045

It lost money.

:

00:50:00,915 --> 00:50:03,775

There were contrary dollar figures.

:

00:50:04,015 --> 00:50:09,415

So I read both 17 million gross

as well as 30 million gross.

:

00:50:09,685 --> 00:50:14,320

Either way, failure, because

its budget was nearly 50

:

00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,405

million, 48 million to be exact,

:

00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:19,315

Milo: Wh where did that money go

:

00:50:19,615 --> 00:50:20,725

on this film?

:

00:50:20,815 --> 00:50:21,805

Wow.

:

00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:27,320

Katie: At the time it was unheard

of for a film that didn't have

:

00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,160

any major leading stars in the

cast to get a budget like that.

:

00:50:32,090 --> 00:50:32,540

Milo: Yeah.

:

00:50:32,540 --> 00:50:32,840

Yeah.

:

00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,260

They were all, I mean, their names

that we've recognized, and I know Laura

:

00:50:36,260 --> 00:50:39,505

Flynn Boyle was pretty big in the, in

the nineties, but there's still no way.

:

00:50:39,505 --> 00:50:41,830

None of them would've gotten

that huge of a paycheck.

:

00:50:42,925 --> 00:50:48,115

Katie: This is the first film of his

three picture, $50 million contract

:

00:50:48,115 --> 00:50:53,215

with Fox, which produced this movie,

miracle on 34th Street and Home Alone.

:

00:50:53,215 --> 00:50:53,725

Three.

:

00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:55,660

Milo: Oh, Fox must have been pissed.

:

00:50:55,795 --> 00:50:56,095

Katie: Yep.

:

00:50:56,155 --> 00:51:00,745

Because all of those

were box office failures

:

00:51:01,780 --> 00:51:04,390

Milo: They're like, oh, we

got him after his prime.

:

00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:04,840

Demi.

:

00:51:05,095 --> 00:51:08,095

Katie: the Let's capitalize

on this home alone business.

:

00:51:08,095 --> 00:51:09,895

Can you just make that

over and over again?

:

00:51:10,855 --> 00:51:16,833

Now, clearly the way that the movie

ends, it is set up for a sequel, right?

:

00:51:16,853 --> 00:51:17,273

Milo: Mm-hmm.

:

00:51:18,153 --> 00:51:19,833

Katie: Babies Trip to China.

:

00:51:20,838 --> 00:51:24,108

That was a planned sequel,

but it did get canceled.

:

00:51:24,468 --> 00:51:25,068

Milo.

:

00:51:25,348 --> 00:51:25,638

Milo: Yeah.

:

00:51:26,343 --> 00:51:30,763

Katie: yeah, so both commercially

clearly, but also critically derided

:

00:51:31,373 --> 00:51:37,143

so the sequel got scrapped, but

they used it to dissuade criminals

:

00:51:37,143 --> 00:51:40,173

from stealing a much more popular

:

00:51:40,473 --> 00:51:41,193

print

:

00:51:41,673 --> 00:51:42,603

Milo: I heard this

:

00:51:42,633 --> 00:51:45,243

Katie: of a movie in, in 97.

:

00:51:45,303 --> 00:51:51,568

So, so it did technically exist for a time

in 97, but as a way of throwing off would

:

00:51:51,568 --> 00:51:55,858

be thieves from stealing prints meant

to be sent to theaters because it was

:

00:51:55,858 --> 00:52:01,448

used to obscure its actual movies title,

:

00:52:01,958 --> 00:52:03,068

which was.

:

00:52:03,998 --> 00:52:04,898

Yes.

:

00:52:05,588 --> 00:52:06,368

That's wild.

:

00:52:06,368 --> 00:52:07,368

That theater it doesn't,

:

00:52:07,803 --> 00:52:11,043

Milo: They're like, nobody's gonna

steal Prince of Baby's Day out too.

:

00:52:11,463 --> 00:52:14,193

So let's the Prince of Titanic in that

:

00:52:14,478 --> 00:52:17,208

Katie: but is this a thing that

was happening that they had to

:

00:52:17,268 --> 00:52:18,978

you know, make plans against?

:

00:52:18,978 --> 00:52:19,758

Apparently,

:

00:52:19,773 --> 00:52:25,563

Milo: apparently I wasn't aware that that

was an issue, a thing, but apparently so.

:

00:52:26,023 --> 00:52:27,193

Katie: That's our cast of characters.

:

00:52:27,193 --> 00:52:29,743

That's who made Baby's day out.

:

00:52:30,173 --> 00:52:31,133

I hadn't seen this.

:

00:52:31,133 --> 00:52:32,333

You hadn't either.

:

00:52:32,783 --> 00:52:38,083

What were your expectations going

in and did your watching experience

:

00:52:38,083 --> 00:52:39,883

differ from your expectations?

:

00:52:40,103 --> 00:52:43,598

Milo: so I tried to go in, 'cause

again, I hadn't watched the

:

00:52:43,598 --> 00:52:44,678

trailer or anything like that.

:

00:52:44,678 --> 00:52:46,538

I just knew the basics of the plot.

:

00:52:47,078 --> 00:52:50,858

And so I tried to go in looking at it

from the point of view of like, if I was

:

00:52:50,858 --> 00:52:55,388

a parent watching this with my kid, type

of an attitude, would I appreciate this.

:

00:52:56,183 --> 00:52:57,653

I even struggled with that.

:

00:52:57,653 --> 00:53:00,653

I feel like if I was watching

it with a child, the child

:

00:53:00,653 --> 00:53:01,823

probably would've been bored

:

00:53:02,983 --> 00:53:03,403

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:53:03,713 --> 00:53:05,363

Milo: this film in lost interest.

:

00:53:05,933 --> 00:53:08,933

It does have good moments and there

were things that I picked up, like

:

00:53:08,933 --> 00:53:11,783

I mentioned, the music I thought

was really nicely done throughout.

:

00:53:11,883 --> 00:53:19,226

As you mentioned, great actors probably

struggling to, to do this convincingly.

:

00:53:19,286 --> 00:53:22,756

They're like and I, and I appreciated

the fact that now if this were made,

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00:53:22,846 --> 00:53:24,796

they probably would've c gid a lot of it.

:

00:53:24,916 --> 00:53:25,336

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:53:25,696 --> 00:53:31,216

Milo: So they actually did really good

work with putting the baby in situations,

:

00:53:31,216 --> 00:53:33,586

I'm sure a lot of green screen and angles.

:

00:53:33,586 --> 00:53:36,886

And, you know, there, I think there's a

scene that looks like a pretty obvious

:

00:53:36,886 --> 00:53:42,226

animatronic baby crossing that the first

beam when the baby leaves the, the first

:

00:53:42,226 --> 00:53:47,406

building that they're in and crosses

that little beam before Joe Montan falls.

:

00:53:48,756 --> 00:53:50,196

That looked kind of animatronic.

:

00:53:50,196 --> 00:53:55,146

He was very like but in general I do

think they did a really good job with the

:

00:53:55,146 --> 00:53:56,496

way it was shot and the special effects.

:

00:53:56,496 --> 00:53:59,436

So like that kind of stuff I keyed in,

:

00:53:59,611 --> 00:54:00,031

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:54:00,576 --> 00:54:05,046

Milo: but I struggle with my

suspension and disbelief with the

:

00:54:05,046 --> 00:54:09,246

number of times that these guys would

be dead from their various falls

:

00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:11,166

and injuries and stuff like that.

:

00:54:11,556 --> 00:54:14,046

I thought the gorilla was

nicely done too, actually.

:

00:54:14,046 --> 00:54:17,286

Like it was very believably

done, gorilla costume,

:

00:54:18,166 --> 00:54:20,566

Katie: It's beyond man and a gorilla suit.

:

00:54:20,626 --> 00:54:22,601

While there, like there

were operators of it.

:

00:54:23,821 --> 00:54:28,111

I wanna say it was in like a much more

dramatic movie, also, like Gorillas

:

00:54:28,111 --> 00:54:29,461

in the Mist or something like that.

:

00:54:29,461 --> 00:54:32,431

That might, but, but yeah, they

did a great job with Gorilla.

:

00:54:32,521 --> 00:54:32,821

Milo: Yeah.

:

00:54:32,821 --> 00:54:36,601

Yeah, it was really very believably

looking like, it wasn't like just some

:

00:54:36,601 --> 00:54:38,521

dude in a gorilla costume essentially.

:

00:54:39,151 --> 00:54:41,161

So it had a lot of good qualities to it.

:

00:54:41,701 --> 00:54:46,041

But yeah, it is just some of these

prank falls and injuries, I'm

:

00:54:46,041 --> 00:54:47,391

just like, I'm just not buying it.

:

00:54:47,481 --> 00:54:53,661

Like I'm not buying their lack of extreme

injuries, and I couldn't buy into the fact

:

00:54:53,661 --> 00:54:57,711

that nobody in the city sees this fricking

child crawling around all over the place.

:

00:54:57,891 --> 00:55:00,981

Who, by the way, why is this

child's hands not black by

:

00:55:00,981 --> 00:55:02,901

the end of crawling

around on the ground, you

:

00:55:02,931 --> 00:55:04,041

Katie: I know.

:

00:55:04,041 --> 00:55:04,521

Oh my God.

:

00:55:04,881 --> 00:55:10,691

It's not like Ferris Bueller, but in

that we kind of get a tour of Chicago

:

00:55:10,721 --> 00:55:15,731

through the movie like we did with Ris

Bueller and obviously John Hughes Chicago.

:

00:55:16,031 --> 00:55:17,801

Yes, go on.

:

00:55:18,946 --> 00:55:23,621

Milo: It, it was just, it is that that

balance of trying to buy into this world

:

00:55:24,101 --> 00:55:28,811

for a family, sitting down and watching

it, and I think maybe if it would've been

:

00:55:28,811 --> 00:55:30,821

animated, it actually would've been better

:

00:55:30,916 --> 00:55:31,336

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:55:31,421 --> 00:55:34,061

Milo: because then you could

buy into that a little bit.

:

00:55:34,646 --> 00:55:34,936

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:55:35,216 --> 00:55:37,241

'cause there were a lot of cartoony

:

00:55:37,661 --> 00:55:38,951

elements to it.

:

00:55:39,161 --> 00:55:44,771

However, part of me wants to play

the devil's advocate in that.

:

00:55:44,771 --> 00:55:51,641

Well, you could say the same about

Marvin Harry with, you know, what

:

00:55:51,641 --> 00:55:53,291

happens to them in home alone?

:

00:55:53,351 --> 00:55:53,591

They'd

:

00:55:53,591 --> 00:55:55,121

also be dead several times.

:

00:55:55,121 --> 00:55:55,721

Right?

:

00:55:56,171 --> 00:56:00,821

So why, why are we okay with it

for home alone and not for baby?

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00:56:00,821 --> 00:56:01,091

Stay out.

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00:56:01,466 --> 00:56:03,506

Milo: And I think part of it

has to do with, we saw it for

:

00:56:03,506 --> 00:56:04,886

the first time in home alone,

:

00:56:05,381 --> 00:56:05,601

Katie: Mm,

:

00:56:05,666 --> 00:56:07,226

Milo: this, we're just seeing it again.

:

00:56:07,586 --> 00:56:08,036

Katie: good point.

:

00:56:08,276 --> 00:56:10,406

Milo: You know, maybe that

has something to do with it.

:

00:56:10,826 --> 00:56:13,046

And I feel like they try

to do it up a bit more.

:

00:56:13,046 --> 00:56:17,246

Like the heights of these buildings

that these guys fall from is, I

:

00:56:17,246 --> 00:56:20,696

mean, yes, in home alone, they're

falling down a flight of stairs.

:

00:56:20,786 --> 00:56:26,666

They're not flying, falling from like a

20 story construction site and surviving.

:

00:56:26,996 --> 00:56:31,636

So I feel like it's more extreme and more

obvious in this in home alone, you can be

:

00:56:31,636 --> 00:56:34,326

like okay, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll buy into

:

00:56:34,501 --> 00:56:35,671

Katie: Yeah, that's true.

:

00:56:36,576 --> 00:56:38,496

It's almost like you have

to up the ante though

:

00:56:38,556 --> 00:56:43,923

so that it's not just 'cause as I talked

about in Home Alone, three, there were far

:

00:56:43,923 --> 00:56:50,053

more hijinks and pranks with the bad guys.

:

00:56:50,563 --> 00:56:52,243

There were also four bad guys in that.

:

00:56:53,068 --> 00:56:53,758

Um,

:

00:56:53,953 --> 00:56:55,003

Milo: Of bad guys too.

:

00:56:55,138 --> 00:56:58,048

Katie: yes, but it

didn't, I was bored by it.

:

00:56:58,048 --> 00:57:00,598

It just kept going and going and going.

:

00:57:01,168 --> 00:57:04,258

I will say I hear you.

:

00:57:04,888 --> 00:57:09,688

And I think in the pro column,

not having it CGI, 'cause that

:

00:57:09,688 --> 00:57:12,058

shit bugs the fuck outta me.

:

00:57:12,058 --> 00:57:17,018

I watched tangent, I watched

nobody two with Bob Odenkirk

:

00:57:17,213 --> 00:57:18,653

Milo: Oh, don't tell me it's not good.

:

00:57:18,653 --> 00:57:22,883

'cause I, I love nobody and it's

on nobody too iss on my watch list.

:

00:57:22,883 --> 00:57:23,963

I just haven't watched it yet.

:

00:57:24,228 --> 00:57:24,798

Katie: Yes.

:

00:57:24,948 --> 00:57:26,208

I, I really liked nobody.

:

00:57:26,208 --> 00:57:27,198

I love Bob Odenkirk.

:

00:57:27,798 --> 00:57:29,658

It's not always the case.

:

00:57:29,688 --> 00:57:35,628

Like the first scene I was like, oh

fuck, the fighting is all CGI and it just

:

00:57:35,628 --> 00:57:38,268

looked like a video game and I was pissed.

:

00:57:39,558 --> 00:57:41,615

But it does get better.

:

00:57:41,615 --> 00:57:44,615

There's very clear CGI like,

so that takes me out of it.

:

00:57:44,615 --> 00:57:46,055

I'm like, I'm watching a video game.

:

00:57:46,285 --> 00:57:46,575

Milo: Yeah.

:

00:57:47,375 --> 00:57:50,925

Katie: But the whole movie's not that

bad, but the first scene is really bad,

:

00:57:50,925 --> 00:57:51,585

CGI

:

00:57:52,095 --> 00:57:52,245

Milo: it.

:

00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:57,840

Katie: so I only bring that up to say I am

so glad that these were practical effects.

:

00:57:58,270 --> 00:58:00,670

It, it's just, it's just better.

:

00:58:01,030 --> 00:58:06,040

The baby, I did wanna point

out one of the, maybe the

:

00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,290

stunt double was Vern Troyer.

:

00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:09,640

Did you see that?

:

00:58:09,655 --> 00:58:10,405

Milo: I saw that.

:

00:58:10,405 --> 00:58:12,175

Yeah, I saw that in the trivia.

:

00:58:12,225 --> 00:58:13,335

Katie: So that's interesting.

:

00:58:13,335 --> 00:58:15,735

But yes, I'm sure it was

also like a fake baby.

:

00:58:15,765 --> 00:58:20,055

Or like a adult, but like the,

but also in the pro column.

:

00:58:20,105 --> 00:58:22,475

The things that this, I don't know.

:

00:58:22,505 --> 00:58:24,035

Is this a real book by the way?

:

00:58:24,035 --> 00:58:25,625

Is Baby's Day Out a real book?

:

00:58:26,025 --> 00:58:26,180

Milo: I don't

:

00:58:26,570 --> 00:58:27,500

Katie: I should have looked.

:

00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,920

Whether or not it's a real book, it

probably is not a real book, but in the

:

00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,220

movie, the baby reads this book every day,

:

00:58:35,230 --> 00:58:36,250

before nap time.

:

00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:38,610

And it's this baby's day

out in the city of Chicago.

:

00:58:38,610 --> 00:58:42,750

And so that's how the baby just kind

of follows the scenes in the book.

:

00:58:43,470 --> 00:58:46,380

'cause, you know, he can figure out

how to get from point A to point B,

:

00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:46,620

but

:

00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:49,710

Milo: Conveniently, it seems

to work out every time.

:

00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,830

Katie: there's a taxi, there's a bus,

there's a department store, there's

:

00:58:52,830 --> 00:58:54,780

a zoo, there's, what am I missing?

:

00:58:54,780 --> 00:58:55,950

A construction site.

:

00:58:56,340 --> 00:59:02,390

So I think for me, the fact that the

pranks and, and how these guys get in

:

00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:05,990

trouble was different enough for me.

:

00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:13,190

Like I kind of enjoyed that, that

it wasn't just regurgitating things

:

00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:15,650

from home alone, but there were

a lot of very similar things.

:

00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,320

But yes, they'd be dead.

:

00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:18,110

Immediately.

:

00:59:18,845 --> 00:59:18,995

Milo: Yeah.

:

00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:19,800

Katie: Let's see.

:

00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,330

Yeah, the realistic effects.

:

00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:22,650

What else did you say?

:

00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:30,240

I will say you are not wrong, and maybe

I was trying to find good in this.

:

00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,850

I went in with zero expectations.

:

00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:38,520

I had no idea what I was in for, except

that I was like, I did see that it

:

00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:47,133

had a, a fairly high IMDB rating, so

I was like, Hmm, it can't be abysmal.

:

00:59:47,513 --> 00:59:52,616

So I watched it and it actually

exceeded my zero expectations.

:

00:59:52,646 --> 00:59:55,676

I enjoyed it more than I

thought I was going to.

:

00:59:56,306 --> 01:00:00,816

And I think it's because some of

the things I just mentioned but

:

01:00:00,816 --> 01:00:03,486

also the bad guys, I loved them.

:

01:00:03,726 --> 01:00:06,726

I mean there's the very

standard formulaic bad guy.

:

01:00:07,116 --> 01:00:10,836

Like bad guys in particularly in John

Hughes movies are very cartoonish.

:

01:00:10,836 --> 01:00:11,706

They're bumbling.

:

01:00:11,706 --> 01:00:12,786

There's infighting.

:

01:00:12,896 --> 01:00:15,176

But I think, so that's at play here.

:

01:00:15,836 --> 01:00:21,650

But these guys, and maybe it's

'cause they're solid, good actors

:

01:00:21,890 --> 01:00:25,430

that they gave us good performances

despite the movie that they were in.

:

01:00:26,060 --> 01:00:29,630

And I liked the dynamic

between the three of them.

:

01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,790

I found them fun and funny.

:

01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:39,170

So much so that I was rooting for

them to catch the baby in every scene.

:

01:00:39,530 --> 01:00:40,610

'cause they just miss him.

:

01:00:40,610 --> 01:00:44,260

They always just missed the baby

who is escaping their grasp.

:

01:00:44,260 --> 01:00:48,240

So, I mean, that's kind of

my overall thoughts about it.

:

01:00:48,501 --> 01:00:50,066

What do you think about that, Milo?

:

01:00:50,211 --> 01:00:51,051

Milo: no, I agree.

:

01:00:51,051 --> 01:00:52,461

You make valid points and, and I agree.

:

01:00:52,646 --> 01:00:57,171

I think if he would've had worse

actors playing the bad guys, it

:

01:00:57,171 --> 01:00:59,001

really would've detracted from the

:

01:00:59,001 --> 01:01:05,241

movie because, and especially Joe

Mont and I thought his vis his face

:

01:01:05,241 --> 01:01:08,336

expressions at various points when

he's getting injured, just the, the

:

01:01:08,421 --> 01:01:11,091

wing of the eyes and very cartoony.

:

01:01:11,091 --> 01:01:15,171

So it was really fun to

watch some of their reactions

:

01:01:15,201 --> 01:01:16,521

when they're being injured.

:

01:01:17,091 --> 01:01:22,251

And like the bit on the park bench,

which again, so unbelievable of where

:

01:01:22,251 --> 01:01:25,581

he is on the park bench and he's got

the baby under his coat on his lap.

:

01:01:25,971 --> 01:01:30,261

Then somehow the baby manages to get

ahold of his zippo, light, the zippo,

:

01:01:30,471 --> 01:01:35,511

and then light his, you know, the crotch

of his pants on fire, that little bit

:

01:01:35,511 --> 01:01:40,016

where he's just kind of playing with it

and I thought was really well done and

:

01:01:40,016 --> 01:01:44,426

funny, but again, so unbelievable that

I'm like, I, I want to laugh at this

:

01:01:44,426 --> 01:01:47,066

because he's being really funny about it.

:

01:01:47,546 --> 01:01:50,276

But how are these cops, A, that stupid?

:

01:01:50,386 --> 01:01:50,606

Katie: Yes.

:

01:01:51,356 --> 01:01:54,776

Milo: how did this child light a

zippo, like as an adult, we struggle

:

01:01:54,776 --> 01:01:58,016

to light zippos you know, there's

no way the kid is gonna be able to

:

01:01:58,976 --> 01:02:01,196

flick the little thing to light it.

:

01:02:01,276 --> 01:02:03,086

Katie: He's nine months

old, so he doesn't even walk

:

01:02:03,266 --> 01:02:03,846

or talk.

:

01:02:04,136 --> 01:02:04,486

Right.

:

01:02:04,876 --> 01:02:08,386

Milo: No, he, uh, he can

stand at a couple points.

:

01:02:08,386 --> 01:02:11,986

He, he holds himself up and I

will say props to them for getting

:

01:02:11,986 --> 01:02:13,216

the performance out of the baby.

:

01:02:13,516 --> 01:02:18,166

They did a lot of good shots of this child

like turning and looking and reacting.

:

01:02:19,021 --> 01:02:20,341

I'm sure must have taken a long time.

:

01:02:20,391 --> 01:02:25,011

There's the scene with the baby where

he falls asleep with the gorilla

:

01:02:25,281 --> 01:02:27,861

and then they have to kind of pull

the baby away from the gorilla

:

01:02:27,861 --> 01:02:29,181

while the baby's still asleep.

:

01:02:29,451 --> 01:02:34,191

So they must have had to wait for the

baby to fall asleep and then be sound

:

01:02:34,191 --> 01:02:35,661

asleep before they could shoot this.

:

01:02:35,661 --> 01:02:39,771

So they're just probably sitting around

the set being as quiet as possible,

:

01:02:39,831 --> 01:02:43,071

waiting for this child to fall asleep

so they could shoot this little scene.

:

01:02:43,551 --> 01:02:46,251

Katie: I actually in my mind,

wondered how they got that,

:

01:02:46,251 --> 01:02:48,291

like, how is the baby not not making up?

:

01:02:48,291 --> 01:02:48,711

Yeah.

:

01:02:48,771 --> 01:02:48,981

Yeah.

:

01:02:49,041 --> 01:02:49,551

Probably.

:

01:02:49,551 --> 01:02:49,971

I mean,

:

01:02:50,151 --> 01:02:50,871

Milo: in the nineties?

:

01:02:51,051 --> 01:02:51,241

Yeah.

:

01:02:51,241 --> 01:02:52,921

Katie: Yeah, the baby was good.

:

01:02:52,981 --> 01:02:57,511

If you've listened to m at all, you guys

know I'm not a big fan of kids in movies.

:

01:02:57,931 --> 01:02:59,521

There are exceptions.

:

01:02:59,571 --> 01:03:01,371

This being a baby, I think helped.

:

01:03:01,371 --> 01:03:03,501

Like, he couldn't be annoying.

:

01:03:03,561 --> 01:03:04,611

He's not talking yet.

:

01:03:04,671 --> 01:03:06,561

He's very cute too.

:

01:03:07,011 --> 01:03:09,771

Like the baby, there's a baby

at the end of, she's having

:

01:03:09,771 --> 01:03:11,211

a baby that we just covered.

:

01:03:11,241 --> 01:03:12,861

And it's not a cute baby.

:

01:03:12,861 --> 01:03:15,651

I know that makes me sound like

a horrible person, but a lot

:

01:03:15,651 --> 01:03:17,061

of babies just aren't cute.

:

01:03:17,451 --> 01:03:19,676

And so thankfully they

got a cute baby for this.

:

01:03:20,241 --> 01:03:20,481

Milo: Yeah.

:

01:03:20,481 --> 01:03:22,761

They did a good job with the

two, the casting of the two,

:

01:03:22,881 --> 01:03:24,291

two little boys that played the

:

01:03:24,376 --> 01:03:24,796

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:25,521 --> 01:03:28,221

But they didn't do anything after that.

:

01:03:28,551 --> 01:03:29,751

Milo: No, yeah, I looked them up.

:

01:03:29,751 --> 01:03:31,461

This was, that's their

only credit, really.

:

01:03:31,491 --> 01:03:31,701

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:32,151 --> 01:03:32,241

Milo: Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:32,716 --> 01:03:32,996

Katie: Interesting.

:

01:03:33,801 --> 01:03:36,501

Milo: I guess they decided, they

were like, we had our experience.

:

01:03:36,561 --> 01:03:38,031

We're getting out of the business.

:

01:03:38,601 --> 01:03:38,691

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:03:38,691 --> 01:03:38,701

Yeah.

:

01:03:39,131 --> 01:03:40,361

Peak at nine months.

:

01:03:40,761 --> 01:03:46,221

I did notice something that

popped out to me is the, like the

:

01:03:46,221 --> 01:03:47,421

place that they're hiding out.

:

01:03:47,421 --> 01:03:50,361

I don't know if it's their apartment,

the bad guys that like clock tower

:

01:03:50,361 --> 01:03:53,181

thing that they're in, if

that's where they live, or if

:

01:03:53,181 --> 01:03:54,441

that's just their heidi hole,

:

01:03:54,921 --> 01:03:56,481

Milo: What I, I feel like it's.

:

01:03:56,886 --> 01:03:59,286

I kind of got the vibe that

they maybe lived there hide.

:

01:03:59,316 --> 01:03:59,466

Yeah.

:

01:03:59,466 --> 01:04:02,316

It was hard to tell if they lived there or

they were just using it as a hideout, but

:

01:04:02,316 --> 01:04:05,286

it was well furnished for being a hideout.

:

01:04:06,216 --> 01:04:11,136

Again, how the police and stuff

came, I don't, you know, if we

:

01:04:11,136 --> 01:04:12,636

should spoil this for audiences,

:

01:04:12,711 --> 01:04:13,431

Katie: No, go ahead.

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01:04:13,656 --> 01:04:16,416

Milo: you know, the, the fact that

like they're driving down the road

:

01:04:16,416 --> 01:04:20,256

and conveniently drive past this

building, that then the baby is

:

01:04:20,316 --> 01:04:24,756

conveniently looking out the window

and conveniently says Baba or whatever

:

01:04:24,756 --> 01:04:27,006

the keyword is for the, for the,

:

01:04:27,081 --> 01:04:27,921

Katie: Boo Boo or

:

01:04:28,026 --> 01:04:28,446

Milo: or something

:

01:04:28,446 --> 01:04:28,866

like that.

:

01:04:28,896 --> 01:04:29,406

Bbo.

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01:04:29,886 --> 01:04:34,026

And and they're, and they just

like, oh, oh, this building.

:

01:04:34,356 --> 01:04:37,236

And keep in mind it's an

entire building as well.

:

01:04:37,326 --> 01:04:41,316

So not only do they surround the entire

building and the the bad guys come

:

01:04:41,316 --> 01:04:43,596

out, just hard time buying into it.

:

01:04:43,971 --> 01:04:49,371

Katie: Well, and that scene shows the

bad guy's like recovering from their

:

01:04:49,821 --> 01:04:53,331

insane injuries throughout the

course of this happens in one day,

:

01:04:53,871 --> 01:04:57,981

but the, they're at a point where

they're afraid of the baby now because

:

01:04:57,981 --> 01:05:01,801

he's caused so much havoc to their

wellbeing that they're like, oh, we, we

:

01:05:01,801 --> 01:05:03,331

don't want anything to do with him now.

:

01:05:03,701 --> 01:05:05,591

So they raise their

hands and get arrested.

:

01:05:05,871 --> 01:05:09,281

When they show that, whereas going

with that is it must have really

:

01:05:09,281 --> 01:05:10,661

been there where they shot it.

:

01:05:10,661 --> 01:05:14,531

There's a Woolworths, are you

familiar with that store at

:

01:05:14,606 --> 01:05:19,286

Milo: I am, I remember when being

a little kid, we, a house we lived

:

01:05:19,286 --> 01:05:23,396

in, there was a Woolworth a couple

blocks away from where we lived.

:

01:05:23,816 --> 01:05:26,636

And I remember being a little

kid and going to the Woolworth.

:

01:05:26,636 --> 01:05:29,846

Yeah, it's like for listeners, it's

an old department store, but it was

:

01:05:30,506 --> 01:05:33,986

precursor to, I dunno, but it wasn't

the thing with Woolworths, it was,

:

01:05:34,046 --> 01:05:39,626

it was like a sears slash target

or whatever, but much smaller and

:

01:05:39,676 --> 01:05:43,681

Katie: and it wasn't, it supposed, wasn't

it shtick like, like affordability.

:

01:05:43,771 --> 01:05:45,571

It was called like the Five and Dime.

:

01:05:45,631 --> 01:05:48,731

Like they used to have they used to

call things the Five and Dime store

:

01:05:48,911 --> 01:05:51,611

and it had a lunch counter too in it.

:

01:05:52,571 --> 01:05:55,631

Milo: Yeah, some of them did our,

the, I don't remember the one that

:

01:05:55,631 --> 01:05:58,571

we went to having with, I remember

like they had a toy section.

:

01:05:59,021 --> 01:06:02,741

'cause as a kid of course you're like, oh,

go to the toy section at Woolworth and get

:

01:06:02,741 --> 01:06:04,541

some kind of toy, a cap gun or something.

:

01:06:06,701 --> 01:06:11,381

Katie: our small town had one and I, it

must have closed when I was very small

:

01:06:11,681 --> 01:06:13,901

because I only have super vague memories.

:

01:06:13,901 --> 01:06:19,391

Like I can picture where it is and the

sign in our downtown and I can picture

:

01:06:19,391 --> 01:06:22,121

the lunch counter and that's about it.

:

01:06:22,631 --> 01:06:24,011

But it was a thing.

:

01:06:24,251 --> 01:06:27,581

And so this is 94 and

there's still a Woolworths.

:

01:06:27,911 --> 01:06:30,921

So I looked up when they

closed their last store.

:

01:06:31,371 --> 01:06:33,471

Do you know what year that was?

:

01:06:33,471 --> 01:06:33,951

Milo?

:

01:06:34,611 --> 01:06:36,951

Milo: It's probably one of those

scenarios where they closed 'em all except

:

01:06:36,951 --> 01:06:41,601

or one that stayed open until:

:

01:06:42,531 --> 01:06:43,101

Katie: You're close.

:

01:06:43,101 --> 01:06:43,821

97.

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01:06:44,061 --> 01:06:44,331

Milo: Oh,

:

01:06:45,351 --> 01:06:45,771

Katie: But it had

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01:06:45,801 --> 01:06:46,371

Milo: would've worked.

:

01:06:46,491 --> 01:06:49,991

Katie: yeah, it had over I

think I read over 400 stores

:

01:06:49,991 --> 01:06:52,211

at one time in the US I think.

:

01:06:52,591 --> 01:06:53,641

And so yeah.

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01:06:54,511 --> 01:06:54,661

Milo: yeah.

:

01:06:54,661 --> 01:06:59,131

I think they were kinda like the precursor

to the big chain stores that, that we

:

01:06:59,221 --> 01:07:00,271

Katie: Like a Walmart.

:

01:07:00,391 --> 01:07:00,631

Mm-hmm.

:

01:07:00,991 --> 01:07:01,471

Milo: Exactly.

:

01:07:01,471 --> 01:07:02,641

They were the precursor to that.

:

01:07:02,761 --> 01:07:03,721

Katie: Yeah, you're right.

:

01:07:04,351 --> 01:07:11,771

So do you think that this the ridiculous

nature of it, accidentally stumbled

:

01:07:11,771 --> 01:07:13,571

into the entertaining category.

:

01:07:14,171 --> 01:07:17,591

Was this kind of a slog

for you to get through or,

:

01:07:18,221 --> 01:07:19,931

Milo: It was it.

:

01:07:19,931 --> 01:07:23,981

I, and here's, you mentioned it right

in the opening, the, it goes a bit long,

:

01:07:24,281 --> 01:07:28,361

and I think this is where that conflict

between the director and John Hughes.

:

01:07:29,186 --> 01:07:31,556

Came out and they both probably

just like, you know what?

:

01:07:31,886 --> 01:07:32,606

Screw it.

:

01:07:32,816 --> 01:07:33,686

Here's the film.

:

01:07:33,896 --> 01:07:36,896

We won't edit it down, or we

won't, you know, trim it up to

:

01:07:36,896 --> 01:07:39,296

get the pacing in or dial it in.

:

01:07:39,296 --> 01:07:43,646

Because I think if it, they would've,

they could've done a bit more with the

:

01:07:43,646 --> 01:07:47,816

edit, that would've tightened it up and

it wouldn't have felt so long because

:

01:07:47,816 --> 01:07:52,046

you're getting towards the end and

you're like, oh, come another prank fall.

:

01:07:52,706 --> 01:07:56,246

Oh, another time of these guys falling and

getting smacked on the head by something.

:

01:07:56,606 --> 01:07:57,236

Ah.

:

01:07:57,266 --> 01:07:58,826

You know, like, when is it gonna end?

:

01:08:00,061 --> 01:08:00,751

Katie: You are right.

:

01:08:00,781 --> 01:08:07,591

Each place they go, you know, the

zoo, the park, the construction

:

01:08:07,591 --> 01:08:09,031

site lasted a little too

:

01:08:09,031 --> 01:08:09,421

long.

:

01:08:09,791 --> 01:08:16,031

If each of those were tightened up a bit,

I think it would have a a better effect

:

01:08:16,046 --> 01:08:16,666

Milo: It would've helped.

:

01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:17,441

Katie: possibly.

:

01:08:17,441 --> 01:08:18,611

So that would've helped.

:

01:08:19,371 --> 01:08:21,451

What did you think of the ransom it

:

01:08:21,451 --> 01:08:23,310

was $5 million ransom.

:

01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:24,781

Is what they're planning.

:

01:08:25,501 --> 01:08:29,310

I don't know why, because everything

is potentially, because everything is

:

01:08:29,310 --> 01:08:33,841

so expensive and there's billionaires

now that I was like, $5 million.

:

01:08:34,321 --> 01:08:35,611

You got, you're, you're, you're,

:

01:08:35,611 --> 01:08:36,211

short changing.

:

01:08:36,211 --> 01:08:36,756

Yeah, you're short.

:

01:08:36,810 --> 01:08:37,381

You're short

:

01:08:37,381 --> 01:08:37,711

changing.

:

01:08:38,041 --> 01:08:39,810

Split between three too.

:

01:08:39,810 --> 01:08:42,001

So I'm like, you're short

changing yourselves here year.

:

01:08:42,421 --> 01:08:42,841

Milo: Yeah.

:

01:08:42,841 --> 01:08:48,301

I guess they had to, maybe this family

is rich but not as rich or how much

:

01:08:48,301 --> 01:08:50,701

access, but:

:

01:08:51,511 --> 01:08:55,591

It seems like back then that would've

been the right amount to ask for.

:

01:08:55,890 --> 01:08:56,071

Yeah.

:

01:08:56,071 --> 01:08:57,481

I didn't give that too much thought.

:

01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,270

But you're right Now it'd be like,

I want 5 billion or something.

:

01:09:02,270 --> 01:09:03,951

Million, billion dollars.

:

01:09:03,966 --> 01:09:05,390

Katie: at least like 20 million or so.

:

01:09:05,390 --> 01:09:05,661

I don't

:

01:09:05,661 --> 01:09:08,751

know why the, I was like,

5 million seems low.

:

01:09:08,931 --> 01:09:09,350

Milo: Yeah.

:

01:09:09,711 --> 01:09:11,211

Well, they weren't the best criminals.

:

01:09:11,211 --> 01:09:14,841

I think they established they were

dufus, so maybe they just didn't

:

01:09:14,841 --> 01:09:16,126

realize they should have asked for more.

:

01:09:16,941 --> 01:09:17,661

Katie: That's true.

:

01:09:18,350 --> 01:09:20,991

So, let's see, which episode was it?

:

01:09:21,381 --> 01:09:23,241

Actually I think it was the

Home Alone three episode.

:

01:09:23,810 --> 01:09:28,281

I don't know that much about Cisco and

Ebert I don't know their dynamic really.

:

01:09:28,671 --> 01:09:31,791

But in that episode we talked about

how there was a massive disagreement

:

01:09:31,791 --> 01:09:36,350

in terms of how they rated it and

they thought each other were crazy.

:

01:09:36,441 --> 01:09:41,060

Well, that happened here too in

their ratings, but it was swapped.

:

01:09:41,871 --> 01:09:46,761

So I just love this drama with

Cisco and Ebert that apparently

:

01:09:46,761 --> 01:09:48,140

is a thing that I was unaware of.

:

01:09:48,598 --> 01:09:53,818

So although he normally did not enjoy

films which showed children or infants

:

01:09:53,818 --> 01:10:01,268

in danger, Gene, Cisco gave this movie

a thumbs up, which is the opposite

:

01:10:01,268 --> 01:10:03,248

of what happened in home Alone.

:

01:10:03,308 --> 01:10:07,868

Three, while Roger Ebert disliked

the movie and told Cisco that

:

01:10:07,868 --> 01:10:09,668

he should be ashamed of himself.

:

01:10:11,077 --> 01:10:12,788

I guess that's a popular internet video.

:

01:10:12,788 --> 01:10:14,498

Their, their disagreement about this.

:

01:10:14,498 --> 01:10:22,028

But I, I find that really strange because

it was Ebert that said in the Home Alone

:

01:10:22,058 --> 01:10:28,778

three episode that he thought Home Loan

three was superior to the first two.

:

01:10:29,553 --> 01:10:30,213

Milo: Oh no.

:

01:10:30,458 --> 01:10:32,888

Katie: And it was Cisco

that is like, are you okay?

:

01:10:32,888 --> 01:10:34,178

What's happening to you?

:

01:10:34,868 --> 01:10:43,028

So I find it really strange that in a

matter of a couple years, they com like

:

01:10:43,028 --> 01:10:47,708

their, their opinions about basically

the same movie, were completely swapped

:

01:10:48,608 --> 01:10:48,908

when you think

:

01:10:48,938 --> 01:10:52,568

Milo: is pretty funny,

and especially because.

:

01:10:54,893 --> 01:10:55,943

Yeah, you're, you're right.

:

01:10:55,943 --> 01:10:59,993

Like they, they, they're kind

of the same movie, essentially,

:

01:11:00,143 --> 01:11:01,943

using the same types of jokes.

:

01:11:02,343 --> 01:11:07,113

It must be maybe the night that they

watched him or whatever and, you

:

01:11:07,113 --> 01:11:09,933

know, 'cause there is an aspect of

if you go to the movie theater to

:

01:11:09,933 --> 01:11:11,463

watch a film and the environment.

:

01:11:11,853 --> 01:11:13,413

So maybe that played into it.

:

01:11:13,893 --> 01:11:14,523

Who knows?

:

01:11:14,558 --> 01:11:14,778

It.

:

01:11:14,783 --> 01:11:17,523

It is funny though, 'cause you, I

watched that clip as well of the

:

01:11:17,523 --> 01:11:21,543

two of them bickering over this

film, and I kind of agree with one.

:

01:11:21,603 --> 01:11:23,583

He, he is like, and then you

watch this and what is this?

:

01:11:23,583 --> 01:11:27,153

Teaching children that they can

crawl around in the, you know, like

:

01:11:27,333 --> 01:11:28,893

it's a bad influence on children.

:

01:11:29,383 --> 01:11:29,543

It was

:

01:11:29,598 --> 01:11:29,758

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:11:29,758 --> 01:11:31,408

Tr you won't get hit by a car.

:

01:11:31,408 --> 01:11:31,618

You,

:

01:11:31,618 --> 01:11:32,938

you won't fall off a building.

:

01:11:32,978 --> 01:11:33,428

Yeah.

:

01:11:33,518 --> 01:11:33,908

Yeah.

:

01:11:34,058 --> 01:11:34,868

Interesting.

:

01:11:34,968 --> 01:11:40,308

I will say I found this again, I think

I was in the right frame of mind to

:

01:11:40,308 --> 01:11:43,698

watch this 'cause I clearly

have a, a more rosy outlook on

:

01:11:43,698 --> 01:11:45,648

it than you did despite this.

:

01:11:45,648 --> 01:11:50,058

So not being my jam, I was just

feeling overly generous perhaps.

:

01:11:50,688 --> 01:11:53,878

But some of these things

like, Gene, Cisco liking it.

:

01:11:53,928 --> 01:11:59,678

Roger Ebert, in a:

was published like, 'cause I think

:

01:11:59,678 --> 01:12:02,108

John Hughes passed in:

:

01:12:02,108 --> 01:12:02,558

:

:

01:12:02,558 --> 01:12:05,278

So it was closely after

John Hughes's passing.

:

01:12:06,628 --> 01:12:08,498

He wrote an essay Ebert did.

:

01:12:08,498 --> 01:12:13,998

And he included a tidbit about a

trip to India where he visited the

:

01:12:13,998 --> 01:12:15,918

largest movie theater in Calcutta.

:

01:12:16,278 --> 01:12:21,588

And so he asked I don't know, maybe

the theater owner if Star Wars episode

:

01:12:21,588 --> 01:12:26,108

four, A New Hope from 19 77 had been

their most successful American film.

:

01:12:27,248 --> 01:12:32,318

And the theater owner said,

no, it was Baby's Day Out.

:

01:12:32,318 --> 01:12:36,368

I used comedy about a baby

wandering through Big City, which

:

01:12:36,368 --> 01:12:40,568

played there for more than a year.

:

01:12:40,883 --> 01:12:42,083

Milo: No way.

:

01:12:42,966 --> 01:12:43,926

Katie: Yes,

:

01:12:44,136 --> 01:12:45,426

Milo: what's wrong with you, India.

:

01:12:45,906 --> 01:12:46,866

Katie: this is Calcutta.

:

01:12:46,961 --> 01:12:47,886

I will, I will get to this

:

01:12:47,946 --> 01:12:48,036

Milo: of.

:

01:12:48,036 --> 01:12:48,396

Sorry.

:

01:12:48,396 --> 01:12:48,816

Yeah.

:

01:12:49,236 --> 01:12:54,286

Katie: this is particularly in Calcutta

'cause and so much so they liked it

:

01:12:54,286 --> 01:13:02,246

so much that they made a, an Indian

version, a remake of it in 95 called Sry.

:

01:13:03,236 --> 01:13:06,506

I, I didn't, I didn't know that,

but Baby's day out was a big

:

01:13:06,506 --> 01:13:07,736

thing in Calcutta apparently.

:

01:13:07,736 --> 01:13:15,866

However, the most successful American film

in all of India was Jurassic Park from 93

:

01:13:16,391 --> 01:13:19,796

Milo: okay, so the, the

cafe owner was wrong?

:

01:13:20,696 --> 01:13:21,356

Katie: at the time.

:

01:13:21,356 --> 01:13:23,366

I'm sure something else

has surpassed that by

:

01:13:23,366 --> 01:13:23,636

now.

:

01:13:23,636 --> 01:13:25,496

But at the, yeah, at that time,

:

01:13:25,901 --> 01:13:28,361

Milo: But either way it would

still must have been huge enough

:

01:13:28,361 --> 01:13:31,451

there for him to mention it, and

if it played there for a full year.

:

01:13:32,111 --> 01:13:32,591

Wow.

:

01:13:32,741 --> 01:13:33,371

That's crazy.

:

01:13:33,836 --> 01:13:34,826

Katie: It is crazy.

:

01:13:34,876 --> 01:13:38,356

I mean, of all American

movies, it's interesting.

:

01:13:38,796 --> 01:13:42,816

I always kind of like seeing

who either auditioned or was

:

01:13:42,816 --> 01:13:44,316

considered for some of the roles.

:

01:13:45,276 --> 01:13:48,156

Lorraine Twell played by LAR Flynn Boyle.

:

01:13:48,546 --> 01:13:52,146

Basically all the popular actresses

at the time were considered

:

01:13:53,326 --> 01:13:54,916

Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox.

:

01:13:54,946 --> 01:13:57,856

'cause friends was becoming

a thing at the time.

:

01:13:58,276 --> 01:14:02,146

Bonnie Hunt, Helen Hunt, and now

I am wondering if they're related.

:

01:14:02,866 --> 01:14:03,346

Probably not.

:

01:14:03,346 --> 01:14:04,456

Hunt is just a

:

01:14:04,631 --> 01:14:05,051

Milo: Common

:

01:14:05,386 --> 01:14:06,766

Katie: common, common name.

:

01:14:06,946 --> 01:14:11,696

Brooke Shields Nicole Kidman

and Debbie Maar, who I love.

:

01:14:12,151 --> 01:14:12,651

Milo: Oh, yeah.

:

01:14:13,046 --> 01:14:13,946

Katie: I like her a lot.

:

01:14:13,946 --> 01:14:15,656

So I think that would've been interesting.

:

01:14:15,881 --> 01:14:18,626

Milo: I think she would've been good,

like all the rest of 'em, I could see it,

:

01:14:18,626 --> 01:14:20,636

but I think Debbie Maser would've taken a

:

01:14:20,751 --> 01:14:21,171

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:21,181 --> 01:14:24,926

Milo: and mu a in ing take on the

character, which would've made her,

:

01:14:25,046 --> 01:14:28,466

probably given her, probably would've

given her more depth as a character.

:

01:14:29,156 --> 01:14:29,426

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:29,906 --> 01:14:31,526

Yeah, she was kind of a throwaway

:

01:14:32,036 --> 01:14:34,976

like mother who doesn't know

anything about her kid, but

:

01:14:34,976 --> 01:14:37,946

suddenly she, I mean, obviously

it's her kid, so she wants him back,

:

01:14:37,946 --> 01:14:39,876

but she doesn't take care of him.

:

01:14:39,876 --> 01:14:40,716

The nanny does.

:

01:14:40,766 --> 01:14:45,726

Anyway for Eddie, the main bad guy, Tom

Selleck was offered it and turned it down

:

01:14:45,726 --> 01:14:51,156

'cause he felt it was too similar to three

men and a baby from:

:

01:14:51,276 --> 01:14:51,966

Milo: I agree.

:

01:14:52,776 --> 01:14:54,996

He's like, look, I got this

movie and this movie's great.

:

01:14:54,996 --> 01:14:55,926

Everybody loves it.

:

01:14:56,226 --> 01:14:57,696

I don't need to be put my name on that.

:

01:14:57,731 --> 01:14:57,951

No,

:

01:14:58,026 --> 01:14:58,566

Katie: yep.

:

01:14:59,256 --> 01:15:01,451

Also, do we ever see Tom

Selleck as a bad guy?

:

01:15:02,376 --> 01:15:03,756

Milo: No, that's the other one.

:

01:15:03,756 --> 01:15:03,966

Yeah.

:

01:15:03,966 --> 01:15:05,856

When would we have ever

seen him as a bad guy?

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That would've been a different

take and doing slapstick comedy

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like he did.

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The baseball one where it goes

to Japan, which is comedic.

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I mean, he is done comedic stuff,

but not slap, sticky, comedic

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boy.

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Yeah.

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that'd be hard to see him doing that.

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Katie: Interesting others some of

these are very on the nose, like Joe

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Pesci Bob Hoskins and Daniel Stern,

like, let's, let's just put the

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bad guys from home alone in this.

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Like, that would've been ridiculous.

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But Tommy Lee Jones, I mean,

he plays a bad guy, but that

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would've been interesting.

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Milo: I don't, and I, I'm curious

how far that conversation went

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of Hey, we're like, what

about Tommy Lee Jones?

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And that's as far as it went because,

you know, I, I couldn't see them sending

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this to Tommy Lee Jones and Tommy Lee

Jones saying, oh yeah, I'll consider that.

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I, I couldn't

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Katie: But they sent it.

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to Tom Selleck.

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Milo: That's true.

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I guess enough for him to turn it down.

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Yeah.

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Katie: but yes, you're right.

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A lot of these, considered

for the part are probably just

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like execs throwing out names.

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But Danny Glover,

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Steve Martin, I can see Steve

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Martin

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Milo: can definitely see Steve Martin.

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Yeah.

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Katie: Tim Allen and Kelsey Grammar.

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Milo: Yeah.

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01:16:15,985 --> 01:16:17,875

Katie: am just not a

fan of Kelsey Grammar.

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01:16:17,995 --> 01:16:18,475

Milo: Hmm.

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Katie: do you, are you a

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Milo: I am a

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Katie: Mr.

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Seattle?

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01:16:22,255 --> 01:16:22,765

Milo: Yeah.

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01:16:22,765 --> 01:16:24,835

I gotta support, support my Frazier.

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01:16:25,235 --> 01:16:30,575

I am a fan of his, but he's, he's kind

of a one trick pony, Kelsey Grammar,

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01:16:30,575 --> 01:16:32,285

you know, I mean, nothing against him.

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01:16:32,434 --> 01:16:35,795

He does it really well, but that's it.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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01:16:36,335 --> 01:16:38,825

Milo: know, there, there's not a,

he, there's not a lot of variety.

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01:16:38,915 --> 01:16:41,045

Anything that you ever see him from.

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01:16:41,045 --> 01:16:45,005

He the Beast, he played in X-Men

to the Submarine movie he did.

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01:16:45,005 --> 01:16:46,625

He, it is kind of just the same,

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01:16:47,255 --> 01:16:47,675

Katie: Okay.

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01:16:47,735 --> 01:16:48,785

Yeah, I concur.

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01:16:49,325 --> 01:16:52,955

Vico Woody Harrelson and Dave Coulier and

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01:16:52,955 --> 01:16:55,775

Rob Schneider were considered, which,

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01:16:56,195 --> 01:16:56,465

Milo: Yeah.

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01:16:57,365 --> 01:16:58,655

Katie: I mean Woody Harrelson,

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01:16:58,745 --> 01:16:58,985

Milo: Woody

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01:16:59,375 --> 01:16:59,405

Harrelson's.

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01:16:59,405 --> 01:17:00,215

Hilarious.

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01:17:00,515 --> 01:17:02,795

Katie: I don't particularly

like Dave Coulier either.

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01:17:02,795 --> 01:17:03,785

I don't think he's funny,

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01:17:03,995 --> 01:17:09,425

but Woody, I can see Woody now, there's

one very good actor known for his

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01:17:09,425 --> 01:17:11,135

dramatic roles that I was like, Hmm.

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01:17:11,525 --> 01:17:13,625

But I don't think he was anybody in 94.

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01:17:13,655 --> 01:17:15,365

Adrian Brody

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01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:16,640

Milo: Oh wow.

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01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:17,090

Yeah.

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01:17:17,570 --> 01:17:18,200

Yeah.

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01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:20,780

I He probably wasn't nobody back then.

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01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:21,770

Yeah.

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01:17:22,130 --> 01:17:22,760

I can see him.

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01:17:23,945 --> 01:17:29,015

Katie: Norby, who is played

by Joey Pantoliano, others

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01:17:29,015 --> 01:17:30,425

considered for his role.

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01:17:30,815 --> 01:17:32,615

John Ratzenberger.

:

01:17:34,145 --> 01:17:34,385

Who

:

01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,470

Milo: Oh, they could have

got Woody Harrelson and John

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01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:39,620

Ratzenberger and uh, Kelsey Grammar.

:

01:17:39,620 --> 01:17:41,360

It would've been like a Cheers reunion.

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01:17:41,434 --> 01:17:42,395

Katie: Oh my God,

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01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:44,180

Milo: Yeah.

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01:17:44,465 --> 01:17:45,305

Katie: Good call.

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01:17:45,615 --> 01:17:47,175

Also Paul Rubins

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01:17:47,940 --> 01:17:48,900

Milo: Oh, wow.

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,940

Anything other than Peewee Herman.

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01:17:51,225 --> 01:17:51,765

Katie: Yeah.

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01:17:51,765 --> 01:17:52,785

That, that would've been tricky.

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01:17:52,785 --> 01:17:53,025

And

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01:17:53,025 --> 01:17:53,865

Jim Varney.

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01:17:54,565 --> 01:17:55,265

Milo: Jim Farney.

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01:17:55,515 --> 01:17:58,035

Katie: AKA earnest, I can see that

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01:17:58,035 --> 01:18:00,795

he's, he plays that kind of a role pretty

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01:18:00,795 --> 01:18:01,305

well.

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01:18:01,485 --> 01:18:01,875

Milo: Yeah.

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01:18:02,055 --> 01:18:05,475

And to be honest Paul

Rubin had some range.

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01:18:05,535 --> 01:18:08,805

It's just he's so associated with Peewee

Herman that it's hard to picture him

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01:18:08,805 --> 01:18:10,485

doing anything other than Peewee Herman.

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01:18:10,815 --> 01:18:13,725

But if you see him step out of

it, he's actually really good.

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01:18:13,725 --> 01:18:14,265

So,

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01:18:14,355 --> 01:18:15,225

Katie: agree with you.

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01:18:15,285 --> 01:18:19,125

Also, I feel like he's suffered,

which would not be a scandal at all.

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01:18:19,125 --> 01:18:21,385

Now, given nothing is a scandal

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01:18:21,490 --> 01:18:22,110

Milo: Not anymore.

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01:18:22,405 --> 01:18:23,965

Katie: all day, every day scandal.

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01:18:23,995 --> 01:18:27,805

But for whatever reason, and I don't

recall when, but maybe around this

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01:18:27,805 --> 01:18:32,934

time, his, like, the porn theater,

whatever, I don't what even happened.

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01:18:32,934 --> 01:18:33,535

Like he got,

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01:18:33,595 --> 01:18:34,615

caught jacking himself

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01:18:34,795 --> 01:18:39,175

Milo: basically, he got caught

going to an adult theater and

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01:18:39,715 --> 01:18:42,265

doing what guys do when

they go to adult theaters,

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01:18:42,475 --> 01:18:43,375

Katie: That's, Yeah.

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01:18:43,375 --> 01:18:47,695

I mean, I, it was just like, oh,

maybe the, maybe the scandal was.

:

01:18:49,210 --> 01:18:55,430

Apparently the ch people involved

with children are asexual.

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01:18:55,700 --> 01:18:56,720

So parents

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01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,430

apparently are asexual also.

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01:18:58,430 --> 01:18:58,760

So,

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01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:59,690

Milo: Yeah.

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01:18:59,690 --> 01:19:03,590

He got into a few little controversial

things, but you're now, nobody

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01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:04,880

would blink an eye on any of it.

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01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:05,520

Katie: Mm-hmm.

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01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,580

Milo: like, well, there's

still adult theaters.

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01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,270

That's what they'd say

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01:19:08,270 --> 01:19:08,559

Katie: Yeah.

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01:19:08,565 --> 01:19:08,765

Yeah.

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01:19:10,475 --> 01:19:12,095

What do you do when leaving your house?

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,700

Milo: Yeah, but come on, you have a phone.

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01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:14,090

Right.

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01:19:14,090 --> 01:19:14,480

Come on.

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01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:14,570

Come.

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01:19:15,885 --> 01:19:21,895

Katie: And then I, I also for Gilbert team

Jodi Foster was considered and yeah, sure.

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01:19:21,925 --> 01:19:22,555

Why not?

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01:19:22,809 --> 01:19:23,110

Milo: Yeah.

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01:19:23,215 --> 01:19:26,965

Probably, I doubt it would've

gone any further than her being

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01:19:26,965 --> 01:19:28,345

like, you want me to do what?

:

01:19:28,465 --> 01:19:28,915

I'm Joni

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01:19:29,070 --> 01:19:30,570

Katie: Yeah, exactly.

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01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:32,580

How many Academy Awards had I won by this

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01:19:32,895 --> 01:19:33,735

Milo: Exactly.

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01:19:34,365 --> 01:19:34,815

Thanks.

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01:19:35,220 --> 01:19:37,860

Katie: They were, yeah, so apparently

they were punching above their weight.

:

01:19:38,265 --> 01:19:42,925

Clearly for this, I clearly liked this

a little bit more than Milo, but I

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01:19:42,925 --> 01:19:44,875

think both of our opinions are valid.

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01:19:45,245 --> 01:19:48,035

But you know, it, it, it is what it is.

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01:19:48,065 --> 01:19:51,365

So if you've made it this

far, you might as well leave

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01:19:51,365 --> 01:19:52,625

a five star rating and review.

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01:19:52,625 --> 01:19:56,735

It is the easiest way to help

retro made stick around you guys.

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01:19:56,735 --> 01:19:58,565

So please, please.

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01:19:59,135 --> 01:20:02,105

But that's our look back at

Baby's Day Out and a slice of 94.

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01:20:02,135 --> 01:20:05,135

Before we wrap, I wanna

get your final thoughts.

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01:20:05,465 --> 01:20:07,835

It, it sounds like it

didn't surprise you at all.

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01:20:07,934 --> 01:20:12,245

And also after your final thoughts,

please let us know what you've got

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01:20:12,245 --> 01:20:15,995

coming up next and where they can keep

up with you in your latest episodes.

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01:20:15,995 --> 01:20:16,445

Milo.

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01:20:17,405 --> 01:20:22,265

Milo: So overall I'm going with

the thumbs down side of Cisco.

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01:20:22,505 --> 01:20:27,455

Bert, it didn't work for me, but

like I said, the true also not

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01:20:27,455 --> 01:20:29,015

the target audience for this.

:

01:20:29,195 --> 01:20:32,915

Although I can't appreciate a good

children's film, just not this one.

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01:20:33,295 --> 01:20:35,755

Recycled jokes even with talented actors.

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01:20:36,770 --> 01:20:37,670

Good moments.

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01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,290

I'm not gonna fault anyone for liking it.

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01:20:39,290 --> 01:20:41,690

Like, I'm not gonna be like,

how dare you like this film.

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01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:46,050

Like I said, I could see it has some good

qualities and if you do enjoy it, props to

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01:20:46,050 --> 01:20:48,460

you have fun watching it and go to town.

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01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:49,480

That's

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01:20:49,480 --> 01:20:49,690

what,

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01:20:50,590 --> 01:20:52,090

uh, yeah.

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01:20:52,580 --> 01:20:54,080

Eighties and nineties uncensored.

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01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,120

Go to the eighties and nineties.com.

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01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:57,200

That's the website.

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01:20:57,230 --> 01:21:00,030

From there you can find

out where the podcast is.

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01:21:00,030 --> 01:21:02,910

It's on all podcast

players of your choice.

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01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:04,559

Different format coming up.

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01:21:04,590 --> 01:21:05,610

It should be a lot of fun.

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01:21:05,610 --> 01:21:09,990

The first new episode of the new format,

I think drops, well, I don't know when

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01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:13,170

this comes out, but coming up might be

out, might not be when you listen to this.

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01:21:13,530 --> 01:21:18,270

And keep an eye out for the one where

Katie comes on and we discuss who will

:

01:21:18,270 --> 01:21:21,660

win in a cage match between Sylvester

Stallone or Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,070

Tune in to find out.

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01:21:23,745 --> 01:21:25,365

Katie: Ooh, on that note.

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01:21:25,815 --> 01:21:29,565

Until next time, be kind, rewind.

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