Sixteen Candles | S2E8

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Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and

welcome to Retro Made.

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You Are Pop Culture Rewind.

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Welcome back.

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Today we're gonna flash back to 1984.

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We're gonna revisit 16 candles, the film

that launched a thousand crushes and

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Immortalized Teenage Awkwardness in this

John Hughes Classic and the unforgettable

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pop culture landscape of 1984.

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Returning to the show are two

of my favorite time traveling

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podcasters, Jamie and Milo from the

eighties and nineties Uncensored.

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Milo: Yes.

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Oh,

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Katie: pop culture nostalgia.

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They also created pod chums, a community

helping indie podcasters connect and grow.

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It's always a blast having you guys,

what's new, what's going on in your world?

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Milo: hey.

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Jamie Fenderson: on?

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Milo: Yeah.

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Boy, lots going on in our world

these days doing podcasts.

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Yeah.

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We got pod hums.

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We've got the POIs watching old movies.

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Jamie's moving.

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Mm-hmm.

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Jamie Fenderson: Like, middle

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aged life changes and

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stuff.

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It's

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Milo: Yeah.

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Yeah, I might.

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Katie: Oh, that's

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Milo: Yeah.

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Katie: right?

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Jamie Fenderson: now I'm truly middle

aged 'cause I had my first colonoscopy, so

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I'm good to, I'm in the

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club.

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: I'm lucky enough to not

have joined that club yet, But not

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Milo: But the,

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Katie: probably

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Milo: and on the plus side, they found

everything they were looking for in there.

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They got it all out, all

the toys, all the wick.

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They found him.

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He was alive and well.

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So, all good up there.

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Jamie Fenderson: fella.

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Finally found him.

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Katie: Milo, I see you have your

eighties and nineties uncensored mug.

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Milo: Yeah, of course.

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Katie: I love

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Milo: When joining a podcast.

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Katie: Tell us more about pod rums.

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What's the scoop?

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Tell, tell the listeners about it,

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Milo: jb, it's your baby.

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Jamie Fenderson: So we started pod chums

as just a way to connect with other

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podcasters, kind of a podcast guild that

you're a founding member of, by the way.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Jamie Fenderson: just a place where

we can go, maybe find collaboration

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opportunities, maybe share some

insider information about podcasting.

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And we, we just got a whole

influx of new members that.

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we have to introduce you to.

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Katie: That.

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Jamie Fenderson: was just kind of

like just us for a little while,

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but now with the policy awards,

we've invited some others, so we're

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gonna have to have a, like a little.

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Intro to all the new members.

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But it's fun because, you know, you,

you have the big podcasts and they're

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part of big networks and little podcasts

like us, we don't get that, right?

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we kind of made one and it's, it's,

it's, it's just our own literal

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kind of, it's a network, right?

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But a network in that we can all kind

of like, collaborate together and share

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Maybe guest cosst have a cross-promotional

marketing opportunities, whatever.

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So I I think it's fun.

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I think us little podcasters

deserve a community for ourselves,

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you know what I'm saying?

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We don't have to, we don't have to be the

big guys to have our own thing going on.

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Katie: Agreed.

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I love it.

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You meet great people and

there's a pod chums like podcast.

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There's a

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Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: goes along with it, so that's

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fun.

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Especially if you're a podcaster.

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And you know, speaking of

networks, I also wanted to remind.

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Retro made listeners that if you like to

dive into the films of specific directors,

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this season of Retro Made is actually on

the network, the director's chair, because

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I'm covering John Hughes this season.

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So if you like that kind of stuff.

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They have Mann this season.

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There's Brian De Palma, ed Swick.

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I feel like I'm forgetting someone.

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So head on over to the director's

chair for other fun Goodness.

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Milo: Awesome.

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Katie: Okay.

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further ado, you guys, there's a new

spin on the time capsule this season,

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Jamie Fenderson: I see what you did there.

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Katie: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, yeah,

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can you guys see

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Jamie Fenderson: Oh

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Milo: Yep.

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Katie: Okay, so I've created

the categories on the retro

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made time capsule wheel.

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Here.

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I'm gonna spin on your behalf, see

what category we come to, and we

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will test your 1984 knowledge guys.

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So,

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Milo: If you had your coffee,

Jamie, this is the brain.

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Brain firing.

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Katie: all right,

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Jamie Fenderson: yeah.

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I'm ready.

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I'm

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ready to

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do this.

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Milo: All right.

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Katie: Commercial countdown.

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Milo: right.

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Katie: In a 1984 ad campaign targeting

kids and tweens, this fruit drink

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brand featured an animated picture

mascot who burst through the walls,

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ex exclaiming, his famous line,

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Milo: Oh, we need to say

the line, not the brand.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Kool-Aid.

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Katie: and, and what was the brand?

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Milo: Kool-Aid on that one.

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Yeah, we know that.

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Katie: Kool-Aid man.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Jamie Fenderson: And I like how

all the kids were always like,

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Oh, ko, it's the Kool-Aid, man.

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We're in real life.

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He'd be terrified.

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This giant Kool-Aid pitcher just busted

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the brick wall of you.

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He's like,

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oh,

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yeah.

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You're

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Milo: Oh, yeah.

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Right away.

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Mm-hmm.

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You could do a lot with it.

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You drink the Kool-Aid as is.

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You freeze it in your ice cube trays

and make little Kool-Aid pops out of it.

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Katie: You

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Milo: Uh.

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Katie: To

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Milo: Vodka.

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Exactly, yes.

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All kinds of stuff you

could do with Kool-Aid.

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Jamie Fenderson: it to clean up

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metal.

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So

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Milo: Kool-Aid.

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Katie: like that?

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Jamie Fenderson: Yeah, if you,

if you concentrate it, there's an

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acid and you can clean stuff

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with

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Katie: Oh,

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Milo: Oh

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Katie: horrifying.

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Milo: yeah.

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Katie: consume

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Milo: we'd drink it.

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Katie: Uhhuh.

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there's another one.

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In 1984, this athletic shoe company

aired high energy TV spot featuring

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the slogan just for the fun of it.

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it.

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Was promoting aerobics

in inspired sneakers.

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And this was shortly before this company's

market dominance was eclipsed by Nike.

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brand Was it

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Jamie Fenderson: Adidas,

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Milo: Oh yeah, I was thinking Reebok,

but it could be Adidas as well.

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Katie: Miley.

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Miley.

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I.

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I combined your names.

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You guys are now Miley.

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Milo: That's fine.

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Yeah.

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We're like a married couple.

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We're Miley.

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Jamie Fenderson: someday, Milo, we

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Milo: Yep.

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Jamie Fenderson: name

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it.

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Milo: Miley.

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Katie: come.

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Milo.

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You are correct.

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Jamie Fenderson: Oh, good job.

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Katie: Reebok.

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Just for the fun of it.

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Milo: Yeah.

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Katie: another category.

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You guys are doing pretty good.

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Fad, flashback.

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This particular type of dance exploded in

popularity thanks to certain films that

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I won't say because it'll give it away.

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But they were released in 1984.

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It began as urban street culture, And

then it hit the national stage Spawning

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competitions and TV appearances.

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What was it?

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Milo: And recently in this

year's Olympics in France.

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Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

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Milo: Yeah.

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We know.

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Jamie Fenderson: Australian gal

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who

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Milo: Yeah.

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Katie: and done.

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One and done though.

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And what, so what's the answer?

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You guys

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Jamie Fenderson: breaking.

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Milo: dancing.

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Katie: break

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dancing and

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Milo: Or breaking.

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Jamie Fenderson: Breakin came

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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Yep.

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Jamie Fenderson: in 1984.

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Katie: that was the movie

that I didn't want to name

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Jamie Fenderson: yeah,

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that's the movie.

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Katie: it, yeah.

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yeah,

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Milo: Yeah.

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Jamie Fenderson: And then, Yeah.

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breakin.

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That was pre big.

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That was like, that was just

ahead of the movie we're talking

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about in in the box office.

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Yeah.

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Milo: Oh, good.

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We're doing all right, Jamie.

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It'd be embarrassing if we do a

podcast about the eighties and

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couldn't answer any questions about it.

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Jamie Fenderson: podcast is like

four and a half years old and we,

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and we, we didn't know anything.

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That'd be embarrassing.

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Katie: Let's do another one, so you

guys already won break dancing as

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Milo: Yay.

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Katie: VHS vault.

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These are always fun.

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So VHS Vault is rentals that were big.

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Like you went to Blockbuster, like

what were the top, we'll say six.

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Because two of the movies

that were in the top.

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VHS rentals at the time covered

last season on my ultimate everyman.

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So keep

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Milo: Hmm.

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Katie: in mind.

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Milo: That's a hint.

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Katie: why there, I'm

doing six instead of five.

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Do we have any guesses

before I start with clues?

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Milo: Okay.

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Well, it's gotta be stuff that came

out, like around that timeframe.

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VHS uh, when Roadhouse came out.

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Jamie Fenderson: out a little a

little later, so you could even get

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stuff from 1983

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Milo: Yeah.

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Like a dirty

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Jamie Fenderson: Return of the Jedi

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might be

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there.

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Milo: Hmm.

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Or no.

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Empire Strikes back would be 83.

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Katie: I'm gonna stop You you're wrong

because I am kind of surprised by these.

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Milo: Okay.

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Katie: I

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Jamie Fenderson: Oh,

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Katie: pull them out of

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my brain because this is

early VHS time, right?

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Milo: You know,

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Katie: 84.

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Milo: Robocop maybe

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Katie: not

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Jamie Fenderson: no, no.

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Robocops

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leader,

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Milo: is it

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Jamie Fenderson: and the

Blockbuster wasn't even around you.

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You had like mom and pop video stores,

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Katie: mm-hmm.

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Jamie Fenderson: so you had the

video stores that were kind of

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musky that, that some guy owned.

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Katie: Exactly.

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Jamie Fenderson: Bob's

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video store and

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Katie: Yes.

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Milo: had the section in the back that

you had to walk through the beads and,

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and you're like looking to see if your

neighbor's dad is, is coming out of there.

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Jamie Fenderson: section.

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You're like,

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Milo: Yeah.

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Jamie Fenderson: Timmy's dad.

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Milo: Yeah, I know him.

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Katie: and your options were

very limited at this time, which

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Milo: Okay.

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Katie: why.

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So the first one, is 1984.

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This is why I'm

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surprised by this.

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One of the, the number one rented

video in: 1984

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A coked up kingpin with a little friend.

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Jamie Fenderson: Oh,

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Milo: Scarface

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Scarface.

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came out in the seventies.

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Jamie Fenderson: didn't it 1981,

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Katie: it was, it was,

might have been 82, but

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Jamie Fenderson: maybe 82.

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Milo: Oh, see, I was thinking

late seventies, like 78 or 79, 8.

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Katie: But yeah, so Scarface.

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Milo: Wow.

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Wouldn't have guessed that.

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Katie: Now I will say I know this

because Brian De Palma directed that,

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and I was just mentioning that I

was on a network with De Palma, so I

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know this because I listened to the

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Scarface was not a popular

movie when it first came out.

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Like at the theater, it became

popular on video rental.

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So it just took a, took it a couple years.

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Jamie Fenderson: It's one of

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those slow burners.

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Milo: Yeah,

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Katie: And then the next one.

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I covered it on my Kurt Russell

and Patrick Swayze season, and I

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had a very hard time finding it,

which is ironic because it was the

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number two most rented movie in

: 1984

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Now it is a real life nuclear

whistleblower played by Streep.

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Jamie Fenderson: Oh,

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is bringing back something.

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Milo: this does sound, so I'm

guessing Street, Meryl Streep uh,

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Katie: it also.

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Milo: All the president's men?

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No, no, they weren't in that.

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Jamie Fenderson: This one's stump.

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This one's stumping me.

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Katie: because you

probably haven't seen it.

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Milo: hmm.

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Katie: Silkwood,

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Milo: Oh, okay.

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I have not seen Silkwood.

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No, I've, I've

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Milo: heard of it, but I've never seen it.

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Katie: It's very good.

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Jamie Fenderson: How come?

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How come?

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This sounds like a great

cast and a cool story.

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And why haven't we seen this?

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Where is it, why is it, why

do people withhold it from us?

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Katie: now I, so when I did the episode,

it was not available to stream anywhere,

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Milo: That's why.

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Katie: literally rented it from my

library, requested it, but I think

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it is now on one of the streamers.

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So just search for Silkwood.

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It's very good.

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And it's based on True story.

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: 00:14:59

Milo: Okay.

374

: 00:15:01

Jamie Fenderson: We are gonna watch that.

375

: 00:15:02

Milo.

376

: 00:15:03

Milo: Yeah, I think we gotta

do that one on our show.

377

: 00:15:05

Katie: guys, if you

378

: 00:15:05

Jamie Fenderson: No, we're gonna

379

: 00:15:06

listen to the episode

380

: 00:15:06

too.

381

: 00:15:08

Milo: yeah.

382

: 00:15:08

Jamie Fenderson: We're gonna, we're

gonna listen to the episode first thing.

383

: 00:15:11

Katie: Okay.

384

: 00:15:12

next one.

385

: 00:15:13

A tear jerking tale of

mothers and daughters.

386

: 00:15:19

Milo: Beaches.

387

: 00:15:20

Jamie Fenderson: beaches, but

388

: 00:15:21

beaches didn't come out till

389

: 00:15:22

later.

390

: 00:15:23

Milo: Yeah, the

391

: 00:15:24

Jamie Fenderson: out in

392

: 00:15:24

the, like the

393

: 00:15:25

later

394

: 00:15:25

eighties

395

: 00:15:26

Milo: two.

396

: 00:15:26

Katie: to think.

397

: 00:15:27

I

398

: 00:15:27

Jamie Fenderson: tears of endearment,

399

: 00:15:29

Katie: yes.

400

: 00:15:30

Milo: Ooh, good one, Jamie.

401

: 00:15:31

Good job.

402

: 00:15:32

Jamie Fenderson: and I only.

403

: 00:15:33

Katie: to, yeah.

404

: 00:15:34

You

405

: 00:15:34

Jamie Fenderson: I only know about

that because I recently did a article

406

: 00:15:39

or something that I was writing and I,

I've never seen that either, but it.

407

: 00:15:42

was

408

: 00:15:42

like, best picture

409

: 00:15:43

or something.

410

: 00:15:43

It has

411

: 00:15:44

Milo: Yeah.

412

: 00:15:44

Jamie Fenderson: of accolades and I've

never, I never saw It So now that I'm old,

413

: 00:15:48

probably because of 1984, I'm a kid and

I don't care about that kind of stuff.

414

: 00:15:52

now that I'm old, I think I might

actually put that on my list to watch

415

: 00:15:55

it and I might actually like it, which

is sad, which means I'm getting old, but

416

: 00:16:00

Katie: It happens to the best of us,

417

: 00:16:02

Jamie Fenderson: yeah.

418

: 00:16:03

Katie: Okay.

419

: 00:16:04

A Plymouth Fury with a murderous streak.

420

: 00:16:09

Milo: Oh, that's, oh,

I know that it's called

421

: 00:16:11

Jamie Fenderson: Christine.

422

: 00:16:12

Milo: Chris.

423

: 00:16:13

Yeah.

424

: 00:16:14

There you go.

425

: 00:16:14

Good job.

426

: 00:16:15

Jamie Fenderson: I love that movie.

427

: 00:16:16

See, that's probably

428

: 00:16:17

more of

429

: 00:16:18

style when

430

: 00:16:19

Milo: Yeah, same.

431

: 00:16:20

Katie: what a wild premise, eh?

432

: 00:16:23

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

433

: 00:16:24

the jealous car

434

: 00:16:26

Milo: Yeah.

435

: 00:16:26

Jamie Fenderson: kill car is

436

: 00:16:27

killing people 'cause she's jealous.

437

: 00:16:29

Milo: I think out of everything you,

438

: 00:16:31

Jamie Fenderson: King based on the Stephen

439

: 00:16:32

King novel.

440

: 00:16:32

Milo: yeah.

441

: 00:16:33

Katie: right.

442

: 00:16:33

Yeah.

443

: 00:16:34

Yeah.

444

: 00:16:34

Milo: And so far the only one

out of everything you've listed.

445

: 00:16:37

It's the only one I've seen,

446

: 00:16:40

but I haven't seen it in so long.

447

: 00:16:42

Yeah.

448

: 00:16:42

I was a kid when I saw it.

449

: 00:16:44

Jamie Fenderson: You've seen

450

: 00:16:45

Milo: Oh, true.

451

: 00:16:45

Okay.

452

: 00:16:45

Yeah.

453

: 00:16:45

Scarface, so two.

454

: 00:16:47

Yeah.

455

: 00:16:48

Katie: And I don't know, maybe, so the

last one I also covered last season,

456

: 00:16:53

so that should give you a hint either

Kurt Russell or Patrick Swayze's in

457

: 00:16:56

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

458

: 00:16:57

Katie: And it's a mission to

rescue POWs that got a gritty,

459

: 00:17:02

explosive twist name, that movie.

460

: 00:17:07

Milo: Wow.

461

: 00:17:07

One of those two.

462

: 00:17:08

Were in a film to rescue POWs,

463

: 00:17:11

Katie: Mm-hmm.

464

: 00:17:12

It's a little lesser known, but

465

: 00:17:13

Milo: apparently.

466

: 00:17:15

Katie: The cast is outstanding.

467

: 00:17:18

Milo: Okay.

468

: 00:17:19

Yeah, I think you're gonna

have to give this one away.

469

: 00:17:20

I don't have any, no idea.

470

: 00:17:22

For me, you, Jamie.

471

: 00:17:26

Jamie Fenderson: Mm.

472

: 00:17:27

I'm stumped on this one.

473

: 00:17:28

Katie: Gene Hackman.

474

: 00:17:33

Milo: Is this the one where he is in a

plane that crashes and then like he has

475

: 00:17:38

to kind of get out and it's got like a

476

: 00:17:44

No, I dunno,

477

: 00:17:46

Katie: Uncommon Valor.

478

: 00:17:48

Milo: not what I was thinking of.

479

: 00:17:49

Jamie Fenderson: it.

480

: 00:17:49

comes back to me.

481

: 00:17:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

482

: 00:17:52

I think I've seen it.

483

: 00:17:53

Yeah.

484

: 00:17:53

Katie: It's

485

: 00:17:54

Milo: Okay.

486

: 00:17:54

Yeah,

487

: 00:17:55

Katie: Yeah.

488

: 00:17:56

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

489

: 00:17:56

Milo: like Gene Hat man

490

: 00:17:57

Jamie Fenderson: of those

under the radar ones for,

491

: 00:18:00

Katie: Yep.

492

: 00:18:00

Jamie Fenderson: and.

493

: 00:18:01

Katie: Patrick was in it.

494

: 00:18:03

Jamie Fenderson: these

are the VHS top like VHS

495

: 00:18:06

rentals

496

: 00:18:07

Milo: from 1983.

497

: 00:18:09

Jamie Fenderson: and, they don't, yeah,

and they don't seem like some of them

498

: 00:18:13

are just under the radar, like you

don't hear about some of these anymore.

499

: 00:18:16

Katie: time and I think it's 'cause

it's so, 'cause like in mid and late

500

: 00:18:20

eighties, it's very clearly the big

box office movies like the prior year.

501

: 00:18:23

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

502

: 00:18:24

Katie: I

503

: 00:18:24

think it's 'cause options were pretty

limited and getting rights to the.

504

: 00:18:29

To VHS's.

505

: 00:18:30

They're still trying

to work some stuff out

506

: 00:18:32

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

507

: 00:18:32

Yeah.

508

: 00:18:33

Milo: Yeah.

509

: 00:18:33

Jamie Fenderson: So you

510

: 00:18:34

Milo: Which one's on there?

511

: 00:18:35

Jamie Fenderson: some that weren't

like big blockbusters or whatever.

512

: 00:18:38

Yeah.

513

: 00:18:38

That's interesting.

514

: 00:18:40

Milo: This does have a good cast though.

515

: 00:18:41

You got Robert Stack?

516

: 00:18:42

Fred Ward.

517

: 00:18:44

Randall t Cobb.

518

: 00:18:47

Katie: Yeah.

519

: 00:18:47

I'm telling you also

listen to that episode.

520

: 00:18:51

Milo: Definitely have to listen to

that one 'cause I wanna see this now.

521

: 00:18:54

Katie: category is can Jamie

and Milo Come out and play

522

: 00:19:00

Milo: Okay.

523

: 00:19:00

Jamie Fenderson: Milo.

524

: 00:19:02

Katie: launched,

525

: 00:19:02

in the US in 1984?

526

: 00:19:04

These robots in disguise were based on.

527

: 00:19:07

Japanese toy lines and

exploded in popularity.

528

: 00:19:11

Thanks to the animated

series and comic book.

529

: 00:19:15

Milo: It's gotta be transformers.

530

: 00:19:18

Katie: Yes, sir.

531

: 00:19:19

Milo: Every kid wanted those.

532

: 00:19:22

Jamie Fenderson: and the cartoon was

awesome and the toys were awesome.

533

: 00:19:25

Milo and I were both

534

: 00:19:26

poor though, so We had a lot of

535

: 00:19:28

gobos.

536

: 00:19:29

Milo: We had gobos instead.

537

: 00:19:31

Yeah, we could.

538

: 00:19:33

Katie: Was that the knockoff

version of a transformer

539

: 00:19:36

Milo: It wasn't even a knockoff,

it was like a completely separate

540

: 00:19:40

thing that came from Japan,

541

: 00:19:42

Jamie Fenderson: They, they

542

: 00:19:42

transformed

543

: 00:19:43

Milo: but, it was like,

544

: 00:19:44

Jamie Fenderson: and

545

: 00:19:44

stuff, but

546

: 00:19:44

Milo: yeah.

547

: 00:19:45

Jamie Fenderson: actually, like

548

: 00:19:47

they

549

: 00:19:47

Milo: Came out first.

550

: 00:19:48

Jamie Fenderson: that, Yeah.

551

: 00:19:49

it might have even come out

first, but Transformers were cool.

552

: 00:19:54

But if you were,

553

: 00:19:54

if, if you

554

: 00:19:55

were poor, then you

555

: 00:19:56

had gobos.

556

: 00:19:57

Milo: Yeah.

557

: 00:19:57

Well, gobos.

558

: 00:19:58

were smaller as well.

559

: 00:19:59

Like the

560

: 00:20:00

transformers were larger.

561

: 00:20:01

Jamie Fenderson: you put The you put the

arms in, you put the legs up, it's a car.

562

: 00:20:04

transformers were cool.

563

: 00:20:05

'cause they

564

: 00:20:05

were

565

: 00:20:06

intricate.

566

: 00:20:06

Milo: Mm-hmm.

567

: 00:20:07

Katie: transformers were cool.

568

: 00:20:08

I remember playing like I didn't

have, I didn't have a transformer all

569

: 00:20:13

girl child house household, but my

grandparents like had a little toy box.

570

: 00:20:19

For when we came over and I

had a boy cousin about my age.

571

: 00:20:22

So there were, I played with

Transformers at my grandparents' house.

572

: 00:20:25

Mm-hmm.

573

: 00:20:26

Jamie Fenderson: I think girls

probably like transformers too,

574

: 00:20:28

because that's how cool they were

575

: 00:20:30

Katie: they were

576

: 00:20:30

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

577

: 00:20:31

Katie: admit let's see here.

578

: 00:20:35

is very easy, but while introduced in late

: 1983

579

: 00:20:42

Earth ponies, unicorns, and Pegasi plus

accessories, and a full playset ecosystem.

580

: 00:20:49

What was It What toy am I referring to?

581

: 00:20:52

Milo: It has to be My Little Pony.

582

: 00:20:54

Right?

583

: 00:20:54

Jimmy?

584

: 00:20:55

Katie: Little

585

: 00:20:55

Milo: Jimmy, you got your My

Little Pony collection back

586

: 00:20:57

behind you there somewhere.

587

: 00:20:58

Right?

588

: 00:20:58

We just, we just can't

see it on the screen.

589

: 00:21:00

Jamie Fenderson: on My Little

590

: 00:21:01

Milo: We did,

591

: 00:21:02

Jamie Fenderson: with

with, with Milo's wife.

592

: 00:21:04

'cause

593

: 00:21:04

she and we,

594

: 00:21:05

Katie: So good.

595

: 00:21:06

Milo: yeah.

596

: 00:21:07

She had to tell us about her.

597

: 00:21:08

My little ponies and stuff.

598

: 00:21:10

Yeah.

599

: 00:21:10

Katie: They did have a smell, and I

even had the or technically they were

600

: 00:21:13

praying my sisters, but the the holding

case was like a stable looking thing.

601

: 00:21:19

You know what

602

: 00:21:19

Jamie Fenderson: yeah,

603

: 00:21:20

Katie: You

604

: 00:21:20

Jamie Fenderson: yeah, yeah, yeah,

605

: 00:21:21

Milo: I think so.

606

: 00:21:22

Jamie Fenderson: stable.

607

: 00:21:23

Yeah.

608

: 00:21:26

My cousins had 'em and I always

thought they had a weird smell,

609

: 00:21:29

kind of like artificially.

610

: 00:21:31

Smelling fruit along with

like dirty kid hands.

611

: 00:21:33

You mix those together.

612

: 00:21:34

You have my little pony, my little

613

: 00:21:36

pony smell.

614

: 00:21:38

Milo: Yeah.

615

: 00:21:39

My sister had my little ponies.

616

: 00:21:41

Katie: Yeah, they did.

617

: 00:21:44

Milo: It's that plasticy artificial scent.

618

: 00:21:47

You're right.

619

: 00:21:47

And kid smell.

620

: 00:21:48

Yeah.

621

: 00:21:49

Kid hand germs all over him.

622

: 00:21:54

Katie: Let's see.

623

: 00:21:54

There's an, let's, let's find another one.

624

: 00:21:56

Hmm.

625

: 00:21:57

Jamie Fenderson: in that.

626

: 00:21:58

episode, by the way, we talk about brony.

627

: 00:22:01

That's a whole nother subject.

628

: 00:22:02

Katie: remember that.

629

: 00:22:03

I do.

630

: 00:22:04

And yeah.

631

: 00:22:05

Mm-hmm.

632

: 00:22:05

Mm-hmm.

633

: 00:22:06

God, there's so many toys.

634

: 00:22:07

Jamie Fenderson: Look that

635

: 00:22:08

up,

636

: 00:22:08

friends.

637

: 00:22:09

Milo: Yeah.

638

: 00:22:10

Jamie Fenderson: That'll make your day.

639

: 00:22:12

Milo: Or my Little Pony episode.

640

: 00:22:13

That was a good one.

641

: 00:22:15

Katie: I covered the Cabbage Patch

Kids craze in my Silkwood episode.

642

: 00:22:19

'Cause that was 1983.

643

: 00:22:20

So that Christmas there was such

a craze for Cabbage Patch Kids.

644

: 00:22:24

And I.

645

: 00:22:25

did not recall the, the name of

the the company who makes them.

646

: 00:22:31

Do you guys know what, who it not

Hasbro or Mattel or what, but do

647

: 00:22:34

you know who made the Cabbage Patch?

648

: 00:22:36

Kids?

649

: 00:22:37

Milo: No, I would've

guessed one of those two.

650

: 00:22:39

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah, I might

have guessed Mattel or Hasbro, but

651

: 00:22:43

Katie: Coco.

652

: 00:22:44

C-O-L-E-C-O.

653

: 00:22:47

Coco.

654

: 00:22:49

Jamie Fenderson: sounds

655

: 00:22:49

more like a healthcare

656

: 00:22:50

Milo: heard of it.

657

: 00:22:51

Yeah.

658

: 00:22:52

Katie: I never in a million years I

didn't even know this existed, but

659

: 00:22:56

there was a spinoff from it spinoff Pet

Toys from the Cabbage Patch Kids Line

660

: 00:23:02

Jamie Fenderson: Oh yeah.

661

: 00:23:03

Katie: 1984 and included

cat and dog-like companions

662

: 00:23:08

Milo: Oh,

663

: 00:23:09

Jamie Fenderson: I re,

664

: 00:23:10

Katie: and names.

665

: 00:23:11

How did I not have this?

666

: 00:23:12

Do you guys know what it's called?

667

: 00:23:14

Do you, do you guys know this?

668

: 00:23:16

Jamie Fenderson: I remember the pets, they

had the pets come out because they were

669

: 00:23:20

so, cabbage Patch kids were so popular.

670

: 00:23:23

And then they like, look,

they got pets now too.

671

: 00:23:26

But I don't

672

: 00:23:26

remember what the pets were called.

673

: 00:23:28

Milo: I don't either.

674

: 00:23:29

Jamie Fenderson: they look

like in my head, but I can't

675

: 00:23:31

remember what they're called.

676

: 00:23:34

Katie: This says KOAs,

677

: 00:23:36

Milo: What

678

: 00:23:37

Jamie Fenderson: Cusas.

679

: 00:23:38

Milo: Cusas.

680

: 00:23:39

Katie: Yeah.

681

: 00:23:39

Jamie Fenderson: or something?

682

: 00:23:41

I am your new dog,

683

: 00:23:43

Katie: It says K-O-O-S-A-S.

684

: 00:23:46

Milo: Cusas

685

: 00:23:46

Jamie Fenderson: Cusas.

686

: 00:23:47

And I remember Cabbage Patch.

687

: 00:23:49

My cousins had those too.

688

: 00:23:52

I guess we're teaching young women

to be good mothers or something.

689

: 00:23:55

'cause they can't, they had

690

: 00:23:56

adoption papers,

691

: 00:23:58

Katie: Yes.

692

: 00:23:58

Milo: oh yeah, I remember

the adoption papers.

693

: 00:24:00

Yeah.

694

: 00:24:00

Jamie Fenderson: is the name of

your adopted Cabbage Patch kid.

695

: 00:24:03

And, and the girls are like this.

696

: 00:24:04

I'm a, I'm a true, I

I adopted this Cabbage

697

: 00:24:07

Patch kid.

698

: 00:24:09

Milo: When I,

699

: 00:24:10

Katie: Mine's was Sonya.

700

: 00:24:11

Her name was Sonya.

701

: 00:24:12

Jamie Fenderson: Sonya.

702

: 00:24:12

Katie: Yep.

703

: 00:24:15

Milo: I just looked up Cusas and

they're kind of creepy looking.

704

: 00:24:17

So they're kind of like the

human, what do they call it?

705

: 00:24:20

Like the not anamorphic where like

kinda they make them human ish looking,

706

: 00:24:25

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

707

: 00:24:25

Milo: completely.

708

: 00:24:26

Jamie Fenderson: looking.

709

: 00:24:26

Yeah.

710

: 00:24:27

Milo: Yeah.

711

: 00:24:28

They're kind of creepy looking.

712

: 00:24:29

Now if.

713

: 00:24:30

Jamie Fenderson: Like a,

if dogs and, and people

714

: 00:24:32

could have babies, they would look

715

: 00:24:33

like this.

716

: 00:24:34

Right.

717

: 00:24:35

Milo: they look like

718

: 00:24:35

Es.

719

: 00:24:36

Jamie Fenderson: you

probably should put it down

720

: 00:24:38

it's suffering.

721

: 00:24:39

Katie: If anybody had these and

maybe I'm pronouncing it wrong

722

: 00:24:43

but I can't believe I didn't.

723

: 00:24:44

It seems like that would be right up

lley, but that was a thing in: 1984

724

: 00:24:49

Milo: Yeah.

725

: 00:24:49

Creepy

726

: 00:24:50

looking little animal toy dolls.

727

: 00:24:52

Katie: for playing guys.

728

: 00:24:53

You did pretty darn good, I'd have to say.

729

: 00:24:55

Jamie Fenderson: that's

730

: 00:24:55

fun.

731

: 00:24:56

Going back to 1984.

732

: 00:24:58

Milo: Yeah.

733

: 00:24:58

Jamie Fenderson: I like it.

734

: 00:24:59

All right.

735

: 00:25:00

Well, on this season, we're no longer

talking about Kurt and Patrick.

736

: 00:25:03

We're talking about John Hughes movies.

737

: 00:25:05

What do you guys think?

738

: 00:25:06

What's your history?

739

: 00:25:08

Milo: I like many people,

I'm a huge John Hughes fan.

740

: 00:25:11

You know, the fact that he only made eight

films, but wrote so many more that are

741

: 00:25:15

just so iconic of the eighties and were

like defining of the eighties, right?

742

: 00:25:21

Like when you, anytime

you say: 1980

743

: 00:25:26

Almost instantly.

744

: 00:25:27

John Hughes comes to mind and

you could name his movies.

745

: 00:25:30

And even if you haven't necessarily

seen all of his movies, you could,

746

: 00:25:33

you've probably at least seen one.

747

: 00:25:35

You certainly know kind

of what they're about.

748

: 00:25:37

Usually have a pretty good idea who

they star you know, so it's just yeah,

749

: 00:25:41

he was, he was iconic of the eighties.

750

: 00:25:43

We couldn't have had the

eighties without John Hughes.

751

: 00:25:46

And interestingly, I would say John Hughes

wouldn't exist today if he were alive.

752

: 00:25:52

I don't think any of his movies

would be made right now based

753

: 00:25:55

on the content of his movies.

754

: 00:25:57

Katie: I concur.

755

: 00:25:58

He did kind of go go more in

the family friendly direction.

756

: 00:26:03

However, they're still pretty

problematic a lot of the times.

757

: 00:26:06

Milo: Yeah.

758

: 00:26:07

Which I'm sure we can we'll

discuss as we go along.

759

: 00:26:10

Yeah.

760

: 00:26:11

Well, and even some of the plot, like

if you look at the Breakfast Club.

761

: 00:26:14

Imagine pitching that to a studio.

762

: 00:26:15

Okay, so it's a bunch of kids.

763

: 00:26:17

They got detention, you got the

popular one, the nerdy one, da da da,

764

: 00:26:20

and they sit around and talk all day.

765

: 00:26:22

You know, the studio would be like, what?

766

: 00:26:24

No.

767

: 00:26:25

Katie: Well, that happened in

: 1985

768

: 00:26:30

that before actually 16 candles,

769

: 00:26:33

Milo: Hmm.

770

: 00:26:33

Katie: but they

771

: 00:26:34

said, no, no, you have to do

a more typical teen movie.

772

: 00:26:40

Like that was sort of, the deal

he did was make 16 candles in

773

: 00:26:44

order to get Breakfast Club made.

774

: 00:26:46

Milo: Oh,

775

: 00:26:47

neat trivia.

776

: 00:26:48

Katie: the

777

: 00:26:48

studio even then was like, Hmm,

there's not, there's no like boobs,

778

: 00:26:52

Milo: Yeah.

779

: 00:26:52

Katie: no, you

780

: 00:26:53

Milo: Oh, Yeah.

781

: 00:26:54

yeah, Where's, where's the

completely random boob shot that

782

: 00:26:57

doesn't seem to really have a

purpose other than: 1980

783

: 00:27:01

Katie: He was right.

784

: 00:27:02

I mean, breakfast Club you know,

spoiler alert is a way better movie.

785

: 00:27:06

And everybody, you know, not just my

opinion, I mean, it's rated better.

786

: 00:27:11

It's, that movie is held

in extremely high regard.

787

: 00:27:16

Milo: Yeah, totally agree.

788

: 00:27:17

Katie: additional any

additional thoughts, Jamie?

789

: 00:27:21

Jamie Fenderson: here's what I

like about John Hughes movies

790

: 00:27:23

is They're teen comedies, so

they're funny and they're teen.

791

: 00:27:27

But John Hughes movies are interesting

because they don't, don't insult

792

: 00:27:32

the intelligence of teenagers.

793

: 00:27:34

So most teen comedies

are just kind of dumb.

794

: 00:27:37

Look at, this is dumb.

795

: 00:27:39

Look, boobies, slapstick.

796

: 00:27:42

You know, it's, there's not much to it.

797

: 00:27:44

But John Hughes movies are smart

because I think John Hughes

798

: 00:27:48

knows that teenagers are smart.

799

: 00:27:51

So they're funny, but they're also

clever, they're smart, and they don't

800

: 00:27:55

insult the intelligence of teenagers.

801

: 00:27:57

I think that's one of the mainstays

of John Hughes Teen comedy is that

802

: 00:28:02

I think he respects the people

that he's making the movies for.

803

: 00:28:06

That's why I like, that's why I like them.

804

: 00:28:08

Katie: They're very relatable and

like relevant to the teen experience.

805

: 00:28:13

It's not through the lens

of the adults looking at the

806

: 00:28:16

teens, it's through the teens

807

: 00:28:18

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

808

: 00:28:19

And it's not like, you know, super,

it's got, it's got the teen comedy,

809

: 00:28:24

but it's not like porkies where it's,

or something like that where it's

810

: 00:28:28

just, hey look boobs and funny stuff.

811

: 00:28:31

And then that's the end of the movie.

812

: 00:28:33

like that stuff, right?

813

: 00:28:34

They like slapstick and boobies.

814

: 00:28:36

So let's just do that.

815

: 00:28:38

I mean, you still got a lot of slapstick,

maybe a little bit of a sexiness,

816

: 00:28:42

but you also have well written and

like you say, I think it's, they're,

817

: 00:28:45

they're written through the kind

of the mind of a, of the teenager.

818

: 00:28:48

So I, that's why I dig.

819

: 00:28:50

That's what, that's what I think separates

John Hughes teen comedies from others.

820

: 00:28:55

Milo: That's a good point.

821

: 00:28:56

Katie: Yeah.

822

: 00:28:56

Well said guys.

823

: 00:28:57

Well, shall we get into the movie?

824

: 00:28:58

16 Candles?

825

: 00:29:06

All right, you guys.

826

: 00:29:07

This came out May 4th, 1984, which

if we're keeping track is over 40

827

: 00:29:15

years ago, so that's not awesome.

828

: 00:29:20

Milo: Hmm.

829

: 00:29:20

Katie: Make, me feel very old.

830

: 00:29:23

Milo: think I just got another gray hair.

831

: 00:29:27

Katie: it's pg.

832

: 00:29:28

Milo: Yeah.

833

: 00:29:29

Because

834

: 00:29:29

Yep.

835

: 00:29:31

Katie: yeah, that's wild.

836

: 00:29:32

Now, a couple reasons because, PR so

at the time, your choices were R or pg,

837

: 00:29:41

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

838

: 00:29:41

Katie: 13

839

: 00:29:41

did not yet exist.

840

: 00:29:43

Jamie Fenderson: And.

841

: 00:29:43

it was only a few months

842

: 00:29:45

Katie: mm-hmm.

843

: 00:29:45

Jamie Fenderson: it?

844

: 00:29:45

would exist.

845

: 00:29:46

Yeah.

846

: 00:29:47

Katie: was it?

847

: 00:29:47

We covered

848

: 00:29:48

Jamie Fenderson: Red, red Dawn.

849

: 00:29:49

yeah,

850

: 00:29:50

Red Dawn was the first one.

851

: 00:29:52

Yep.

852

: 00:29:52

Katie: Mm-hmm.

853

: 00:29:54

So yeah, it predates that.

854

: 00:29:55

So it was either gonna be an R or pg

and apparently if you have more than

855

: 00:30:01

two F-bombs, it's immediately an R.

856

: 00:30:03

So they just removed

one or removed a couple.

857

: 00:30:06

'cause there are, I noted at

least one F-bomb in 16 candles.

858

: 00:30:12

But then it still has nudity and like

underage binge drinking like very

859

: 00:30:20

Milo: sexual innuendo.

860

: 00:30:21

Yeah.

861

: 00:30:22

Katie: And are, is there

sexual assault going on here?

862

: 00:30:25

What?

863

: 00:30:26

You know, so there's a lot in this and

it is a PG movie, whereas Breakfast

864

: 00:30:31

Club has no nudity, none of that.

865

: 00:30:33

But it has A lot of language.

866

: 00:30:35

I mean, some adult situations I guess.

867

: 00:30:38

But Breakfast Club is an R rated movie.

868

: 00:30:41

Milo: Okay.

869

: 00:30:41

Yeah,

870

: 00:30:42

Jamie Fenderson: See what

happens when you drop too

871

: 00:30:43

many F-bombs.

872

: 00:30:44

Katie: Yeah.

873

: 00:30:45

Milo: those rating boards are so weird.

874

: 00:30:48

Jamie Fenderson: sexual assault,

you know, all that kind of stuff.

875

: 00:30:50

That's fine, but you drop too

876

: 00:30:51

many F-bombs.

877

: 00:30:52

That's,

878

: 00:30:52

that's an R we're coming

879

: 00:30:53

Milo: Yeah.

880

: 00:30:54

Jamie Fenderson: heart.

881

: 00:30:54

Milo: You're over the line.

882

: 00:30:56

You're over the line with that language.

883

: 00:30:58

Jamie Fenderson: You can't drop an F

884

: 00:30:59

bomb while

885

: 00:31:00

you're showing your

886

: 00:31:01

Milo: No.

887

: 00:31:01

Jamie Fenderson: Get rid of that F bomb.

888

: 00:31:02

Katie: Yeah.

889

: 00:31:03

Keep

890

: 00:31:04

the boobs.

891

: 00:31:04

Milo: Mm-hmm.

892

: 00:31:05

Jamie Fenderson: the

893

: 00:31:05

boobs.

894

: 00:31:05

That's okay.

895

: 00:31:06

Milo: Yeah.

896

: 00:31:07

Katie: Well, you know, 16

candles is not one of my go-tos.

897

: 00:31:11

Like I, I always think of it, but

I don't, I can't quote it like I

898

: 00:31:15

can breakfast club or something.

899

: 00:31:17

So I sort of conflate it and

pretty pink in my head 'cause

900

: 00:31:21

I don't rewatch them as often.

901

: 00:31:23

So if you are similar to me and you

need a refresh about 16 candles.

902

: 00:31:29

Here's the description of it.

903

: 00:31:31

Samantha's life is going downhill fast.

904

: 00:31:33

The 16-year-old has a crush on the

most popular boy in school, and the

905

: 00:31:37

geest boy in school has a crush on her.

906

: 00:31:40

Her sister is getting married and with

all the excitement, the rest of the family

907

: 00:31:43

forgets that it's her 16th birthday.

908

: 00:31:46

And add two sets of horrendously,

embarrassing and quite funny grandparents,

909

: 00:31:52

a foreign exchange student named Long

Duck Dong and Behold, the makings of a

910

: 00:31:57

hilarious Journey into Young Womanhood.

911

: 00:32:00

This is 16 candles and it has a 7.0

912

: 00:32:04

on IMDB.

913

: 00:32:05

And to your point, Milo, about

John Hughes only directing

914

: 00:32:10

you a certain number of films.

915

: 00:32:12

This was his directorial debut

and he also wrote the movie.

916

: 00:32:18

Milo: Yeah, I'm with you Katie, though.

917

: 00:32:19

I do in my head, overlap

this with Pretty and Pink.

918

: 00:32:24

Like when I watched it the other

night, I was like, oh, the thing I'm

919

: 00:32:29

thinking of must be in Pretty and Pink.

920

: 00:32:30

'cause it's not in this movie.

921

: 00:32:32

They're very, very similar films and I

think a lot of people think John Hughes

922

: 00:32:37

directed pretty in pink, but he didn't.

923

: 00:32:39

He just wrote it.

924

: 00:32:40

Katie: you're right.

925

: 00:32:41

As we'll get into, but there

was a like, almost every five

926

: 00:32:46

minutes I'm like, Ooh, wow.

927

: 00:32:47

Yikes.

928

: 00:32:48

This one's really problematic.

929

: 00:32:51

But I do, now, having said that, I'm

going to just have fun watching the movie.

930

: 00:32:56

It's in the eighties.

931

: 00:32:57

It's different time, but like, it's

kind of fun to make fun of how,

932

: 00:33:01

like wildly inappropriate and..

933

: 00:33:05

Offensive.

934

: 00:33:05

I guess a lot of things

were in this movie.

935

: 00:33:09

but let's start with

some of our cast members.

936

: 00:33:11

So Samantha's played by Molly Ringwald,

and I'm pretty sure John Hughes wrote

937

: 00:33:17

this movie for her, with her in mind.

938

: 00:33:21

Like he had a headshot of her and

then she went on to become his muse.

939

: 00:33:26

Jamie Fenderson: guess he had a picture

of her headshot too, when he was doing

940

: 00:33:29

work, and he'd kind of look at her

every once in a while like, this is,

941

: 00:33:33

this is the girl I'm

942

: 00:33:34

writing

943

: 00:33:35

about.

944

: 00:33:36

Milo: I think she was perfectly cast.

945

: 00:33:38

I mean, 'cause she's adorable, but she

also has that kind of geeky quality

946

: 00:33:44

to her to where you're like, okay,

she's definitely not gonna be like

947

: 00:33:47

this super, pretty popular girl.

948

: 00:33:49

But she's also still very attractive

and just like I, I just think

949

: 00:33:53

she's perfectly cast in this,

950

: 00:33:55

which is great.

951

: 00:33:56

Katie: agree.

952

: 00:33:56

I agree.

953

: 00:33:57

And then the Geek is played by Anthony

Michael Hall, and they were both 15.

954

: 00:34:04

They,

955

: 00:34:04

both of those two were actually

956

: 00:34:05

15 years old this movie.

957

: 00:34:08

We'll get into some of the ages,

which I, we is interesting.

958

: 00:34:12

The, the crush, the, the hot boy

in this movie, Jake Ryan is played

959

: 00:34:18

by Michael Shoing and he didn't,

do you guys know him from anything?

960

: 00:34:24

Milo: No, this is literally

the only thing I know him from.

961

: 00:34:27

Katie: Yeah, I think he went

on to just have a regular life.

962

: 00:34:30

Milo: He stopped working in 1991.

963

: 00:34:33

It looks like

964

: 00:34:34

Katie: He was 23 when this movie was made.

965

: 00:34:39

Milo: bit of an age difference.

966

: 00:34:40

I.

967

: 00:34:40

Katie: that tracks, I buy that

968

: 00:34:42

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

969

: 00:34:42

Katie: looks like a a young man.

970

: 00:34:45

I.

971

: 00:34:45

thought Anthony, Michael Halt

looked all of 11 in this movie.

972

: 00:34:49

Didn't

973

: 00:34:50

Milo: Yeah.

974

: 00:34:50

Katie: looked so

975

: 00:34:51

young?

976

: 00:34:52

Milo: Yeah.

977

: 00:34:52

Especially compared to now.

978

: 00:34:53

Like he looks so different now

than he did back in the eighties.

979

: 00:34:57

You know, like he played enough

of these nerd roles where he is

980

: 00:34:59

like, Nope, I'm done with that.

981

: 00:35:01

So he starts hitting the

gym and like everything.

982

: 00:35:03

Yeah.

983

: 00:35:05

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

984

: 00:35:06

Late

985

: 00:35:06

bloomer, you

986

: 00:35:06

know?

987

: 00:35:07

Milo: Yeah.

988

: 00:35:08

But he's kind of a bit of

a sexual predator as well,

989

: 00:35:12

speaking as sexual predators.

990

: 00:35:13

Katie: He has a popular girlfriend

and her name in the, in the movie is

991

: 00:35:18

Carolyn, played by Haviland Morris.

992

: 00:35:23

And I guess she in real

life, has red hair.

993

: 00:35:27

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

994

: 00:35:28

Katie: John Hughes only wanted

run one redhead in the movie.

995

: 00:35:31

So the, her blonde hair is a wig.

996

: 00:35:33

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

997

: 00:35:34

Milo: At least it didn't

make her bleach it.

998

: 00:35:35

Jamie Fenderson: redhead.

999

: 00:35:36

in my movie.

: 1000

00:35:37,524 --> 00:35:37,734

Katie: redhead.

: 1001

00:35:37,749 --> 00:35:38,109

Jamie Fenderson: And that's

: 1002

00:35:38,109 --> 00:35:38,529

Molly

: 1003

00:35:38,529 --> 00:35:39,339

Ringwald.

: 1004

00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:40,599

Get your wig on lady.

: 1005

00:35:41,394 --> 00:35:44,214

Katie: did you, did you guys

recognize her from anything?

: 1006

00:35:45,129 --> 00:35:45,549

Milo: Mm-hmm.

: 1007

00:35:46,050 --> 00:35:49,170

Katie: Her name sounds very,

that's a very specific name.

: 1008

00:35:50,544 --> 00:35:55,484

but I think is most known for this,

but she was also in gremlins two,

: 1009

00:35:55,574 --> 00:35:57,704

the new Batch and Home Alone three.

: 1010

00:35:58,124 --> 00:35:58,754

Milo: Ooh.

: 1011

00:35:59,774 --> 00:36:00,854

Jamie Fenderson: So she likes, she

: 1012

00:36:00,854 --> 00:36:01,989

likes to do them sequels.

: 1013

00:36:02,534 --> 00:36:03,674

Milo: Yeah, it looks like it.

: 1014

00:36:03,974 --> 00:36:06,494

Katie: you know, there's a John

Hughes connection, I guess there

: 1015

00:36:06,594 --> 00:36:06,884

Milo: Yeah.

: 1016

00:36:07,149 --> 00:36:12,069

Katie: but I did not recall

this family has four kids.

: 1017

00:36:12,834 --> 00:36:14,934

Milo: No, I didn't remember

any of that storyline

: 1018

00:36:15,504 --> 00:36:16,404

with the, the

: 1019

00:36:16,454 --> 00:36:16,534

Jamie Fenderson: Hmm.

: 1020

00:36:16,544 --> 00:36:18,014

Katie: the sister getting married,

: 1021

00:36:18,374 --> 00:36:18,704

but then

: 1022

00:36:18,704 --> 00:36:21,164

there's also a younger

brother and a younger sister.

: 1023

00:36:21,164 --> 00:36:26,714

And the younger brother, was

like second build in the movie.

: 1024

00:36:27,164 --> 00:36:27,644

Milo: weird.

: 1025

00:36:27,774 --> 00:36:27,854

Jamie Fenderson: Hmm.

: 1026

00:36:27,914 --> 00:36:28,064

Katie: So

: 1027

00:36:28,064 --> 00:36:29,324

he is, Mike is his name.

: 1028

00:36:29,324 --> 00:36:31,994

He's the younger brother and

he's played by Justin Henry.

: 1029

00:36:32,444 --> 00:36:39,207

And they were just trying to maximize his,

he had just come off doing Kramer versus

: 1030

00:36:39,207 --> 00:36:42,357

Kramer and was like a popular kid actor.

: 1031

00:36:42,437 --> 00:36:42,657

Jamie Fenderson: Oh

: 1032

00:36:42,717 --> 00:36:42,957

Katie: like, oh,

: 1033

00:36:42,957 --> 00:36:44,397

people will know his name.

: 1034

00:36:46,077 --> 00:36:47,907

Milo: You know, I did

recognize him though.

: 1035

00:36:47,967 --> 00:36:50,697

When I, when, when I watched it, I'm

like, okay, this kid looks familiar.

: 1036

00:36:50,697 --> 00:36:53,757

So I must have seen him in something

else back then that he was in.

: 1037

00:36:54,267 --> 00:36:54,837

Katie: he did.

: 1038

00:36:54,837 --> 00:36:55,737

Yeah, you're right.

: 1039

00:36:55,737 --> 00:36:56,757

And he was pretty good.

: 1040

00:36:56,757 --> 00:36:58,377

He was like a jerky little brother.

: 1041

00:36:58,857 --> 00:36:59,727

Milo: Yeah, he played it well.

: 1042

00:37:00,267 --> 00:37:00,867

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 1043

00:37:01,197 --> 00:37:01,707

Milo: believable.

: 1044

00:37:01,752 --> 00:37:03,552

Jamie Fenderson: makes sense that

they, the family would have a

: 1045

00:37:03,552 --> 00:37:06,882

lot of kids 'cause they forgot

their daughter's 16th birthday.

: 1046

00:37:06,942 --> 00:37:08,862

'cause of the older ones

getting married, there's two

: 1047

00:37:08,862 --> 00:37:09,792

others she gotta kind of

: 1048

00:37:09,792 --> 00:37:10,482

control.

: 1049

00:37:11,082 --> 00:37:11,382

Milo: Yeah.

: 1050

00:37:11,382 --> 00:37:13,142

Jamie Fenderson: the middle

everybody's forgetting about me.

: 1051

00:37:13,322 --> 00:37:14,462

I'm Jan Brady here.

: 1052

00:37:16,337 --> 00:37:17,027

Katie: Jan Brady.

: 1053

00:37:17,327 --> 00:37:17,807

Well, six.

: 1054

00:37:17,837 --> 00:37:18,917

Yeah, I don't know.

: 1055

00:37:18,917 --> 00:37:24,497

I mean, forgetting your 16, like

Sweet 16 is like a thing, I guess.

: 1056

00:37:24,497 --> 00:37:24,917

I don't know.

: 1057

00:37:24,917 --> 00:37:26,867

It never was for, for me.

: 1058

00:37:27,167 --> 00:37:31,937

Like we didn't have, you know, I guess

like debutantes and in some areas of

: 1059

00:37:31,937 --> 00:37:35,807

the country or the world, maybe there's

a big deal around your Sweet 16.

: 1060

00:37:35,837 --> 00:37:38,177

Was, was that a big deal

where you guys grew up?

: 1061

00:37:39,542 --> 00:37:39,902

Milo: No.

: 1062

00:37:40,052 --> 00:37:42,692

In our house it was

like any other birthday.

: 1063

00:37:43,055 --> 00:37:43,345

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 1064

00:37:43,624 --> 00:37:44,254

Plus we were

: 1065

00:37:44,254 --> 00:37:44,644

poor,

: 1066

00:37:44,644 --> 00:37:45,364

so it's

: 1067

00:37:45,499 --> 00:37:45,739

Milo: Yeah.

: 1068

00:37:46,204 --> 00:37:48,064

Jamie Fenderson: whatever

we d do for birthdays, we're

: 1069

00:37:48,064 --> 00:37:49,054

gonna do that again.

: 1070

00:37:49,879 --> 00:37:50,179

Milo: Yeah.

: 1071

00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,169

I think my mom was.

: 1072

00:37:51,364 --> 00:37:53,794

Katie: AM with a bow on it in

the driveway waiting for you?

: 1073

00:37:53,794 --> 00:37:55,504

Like she wanted, she says.

: 1074

00:37:55,772 --> 00:37:59,702

Milo: Didn't even bother attempting

to ask for a car when my 16th rolled

: 1075

00:37:59,702 --> 00:38:02,492

around because I knew there was no

chance in hell that was gonna happen.

: 1076

00:38:02,762 --> 00:38:03,062

Yeah.

: 1077

00:38:03,287 --> 00:38:03,617

Katie: I did

: 1078

00:38:03,617 --> 00:38:07,607

get a car, but it wasn't

like we went looking for one.

: 1079

00:38:07,637 --> 00:38:10,037

I remember going, like

looking for one with my dad.

: 1080

00:38:10,727 --> 00:38:13,247

But it wasn't there for me

when I woke up on my 16th

: 1081

00:38:13,262 --> 00:38:13,352

Milo: Aw,

: 1082

00:38:14,762 --> 00:38:14,883

Katie: I know

: 1083

00:38:15,632 --> 00:38:16,862

Milo: little bow on it.

: 1084

00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:20,057

Katie: it was 10-year-old car.

: 1085

00:38:20,327 --> 00:38:20,387

I

: 1086

00:38:20,522 --> 00:38:21,182

Jamie Fenderson: Oh, well that's

: 1087

00:38:21,212 --> 00:38:22,502

Milo: Oh, what was it?

: 1088

00:38:22,562 --> 00:38:23,102

What was it?

: 1089

00:38:23,552 --> 00:38:23,822

Jamie Fenderson: Used car,

: 1090

00:38:23,957 --> 00:38:24,167

Katie: was a

: 1091

00:38:24,167 --> 00:38:25,037

Ford probe.

: 1092

00:38:25,442 --> 00:38:26,102

Milo: Ooh.

: 1093

00:38:26,252 --> 00:38:27,542

Yeah, I remember the Ford probe.

: 1094

00:38:27,692 --> 00:38:28,172

Jamie Fenderson: probe.

: 1095

00:38:28,172 --> 00:38:29,492

Milo: was kind of almost a

: 1096

00:38:29,852 --> 00:38:32,162

roundish looking is kind of

the way I would describe it.

: 1097

00:38:32,167 --> 00:38:34,922

It wasn't round, but it

kind of had a bubbly look.

: 1098

00:38:35,447 --> 00:38:35,777

Katie: Ford

: 1099

00:38:35,777 --> 00:38:36,137

Probe.

: 1100

00:38:36,137 --> 00:38:41,987

'cause like somewhere in the mid nineties

they changed the look of them, but yeah.

: 1101

00:38:42,272 --> 00:38:43,592

Milo: it the kind of roundy looking one?

: 1102

00:38:44,012 --> 00:38:44,972

Did it kind of like,

: 1103

00:38:45,452 --> 00:38:45,752

Yeah,

: 1104

00:38:46,172 --> 00:38:47,582

The hood was very kind of roundish.

: 1105

00:38:48,287 --> 00:38:51,137

Katie: And I'm pretty sure did the

flash or the headlights come up?

: 1106

00:38:51,137 --> 00:38:51,947

No, I don't.

: 1107

00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:53,207

I can't remember.

: 1108

00:38:53,267 --> 00:38:53,627

Milo: Hmm.

: 1109

00:38:53,837 --> 00:38:54,527

Katie: Anyway,

: 1110

00:38:54,647 --> 00:38:57,467

Jamie Fenderson: that, I just think,

when did Ford get into the healthcare

: 1111

00:38:57,467 --> 00:38:58,217

industry?

: 1112

00:38:58,277 --> 00:38:58,547

And

: 1113

00:38:58,547 --> 00:38:59,267

that's all I can

: 1114

00:38:59,507 --> 00:38:59,777

Milo: Probe.

: 1115

00:39:00,227 --> 00:39:02,657

Katie: it is a silly

: 1116

00:39:03,452 --> 00:39:04,532

Jamie Fenderson: maybe they're into space

: 1117

00:39:04,532 --> 00:39:04,922

now

: 1118

00:39:05,327 --> 00:39:06,137

Katie: probing.

: 1119

00:39:06,287 --> 00:39:06,677

Yeah.

: 1120

00:39:06,707 --> 00:39:07,457

That is odd.

: 1121

00:39:07,667 --> 00:39:09,947

Milo: When I think the Taurus

eventually was kind of what

: 1122

00:39:09,947 --> 00:39:11,717

the Ford probe got to did too.

: 1123

00:39:12,377 --> 00:39:16,217

'cause they were very similar cars

and so I think when they discontinued

: 1124

00:39:16,427 --> 00:39:16,577

Katie: was

: 1125

00:39:16,577 --> 00:39:20,207

a two-door, it was kind

of like a sporty car.

: 1126

00:39:20,657 --> 00:39:21,047

Milo: okay.

: 1127

00:39:21,717 --> 00:39:23,067

Katie: Tourists were really ugly

: 1128

00:39:23,517 --> 00:39:25,887

Milo: Was because wasn't

the Ford probe kind of ugly?

: 1129

00:39:26,967 --> 00:39:28,467

Am I thinking of the wrong car?

: 1130

00:39:28,737 --> 00:39:31,527

Katie: clearly didn't think so

'cause I got, it was like sporty.

: 1131

00:39:32,877 --> 00:39:33,297

Milo: Hmm.

: 1132

00:39:33,462 --> 00:39:36,522

Jamie Fenderson: when you get a

car and someone else pays for it,

: 1133

00:39:36,522 --> 00:39:37,362

doesn't matter what it

: 1134

00:39:37,362 --> 00:39:37,812

looks like.

: 1135

00:39:38,112 --> 00:39:38,172

If.

: 1136

00:39:38,187 --> 00:39:38,427

Katie: Yeah, you're

: 1137

00:39:38,572 --> 00:39:38,862

Milo: Okay.

: 1138

00:39:39,327 --> 00:39:39,807

Katie: Yeah.

: 1139

00:39:40,242 --> 00:39:41,772

Milo: Yeah, I was picturing the right car.

: 1140

00:39:41,922 --> 00:39:41,967

Katie: But it's

: 1141

00:39:42,207 --> 00:39:43,917

Milo: I was, it is a two-door.

: 1142

00:39:44,007 --> 00:39:44,457

Yeah, you're right.

: 1143

00:39:44,457 --> 00:39:46,557

The Taurus is a four-door,

but I guess, yeah, it is more

: 1144

00:39:46,557 --> 00:39:47,937

sporty than I was picturing it.

: 1145

00:39:49,302 --> 00:39:49,522

Oh

: 1146

00:39:49,662 --> 00:39:50,202

Katie: I wanted a

: 1147

00:39:50,202 --> 00:39:50,952

sunfire.

: 1148

00:39:51,002 --> 00:39:51,292

Milo: yeah.

: 1149

00:39:51,402 --> 00:39:51,822

Katie: like all the

: 1150

00:39:51,822 --> 00:39:54,642

rage in the nine, like mid

nineties for teenage cars.

: 1151

00:39:56,042 --> 00:39:56,332

Milo: Okay.

: 1152

00:39:56,502 --> 00:39:56,832

Katie: are kind of

: 1153

00:39:56,832 --> 00:39:57,762

ridiculous to think.

: 1154

00:39:58,212 --> 00:39:59,682

And what were those other ones?

: 1155

00:39:59,682 --> 00:40:00,822

A geo, geo

: 1156

00:40:00,852 --> 00:40:01,812

Jamie Fenderson: storm

: 1157

00:40:02,022 --> 00:40:02,522

Milo: Oh yeah.

: 1158

00:40:02,592 --> 00:40:03,732

Jamie Fenderson: metros,

: 1159

00:40:04,662 --> 00:40:05,202

Katie: like teen

: 1160

00:40:05,352 --> 00:40:09,012

Jamie Fenderson: the sky blue

and the yellow colors geos.

: 1161

00:40:10,407 --> 00:40:10,697

Katie: Geos.

: 1162

00:40:10,842 --> 00:40:11,952

Jamie Fenderson: were so cool.

: 1163

00:40:11,982 --> 00:40:14,022

And now you look at 'em, you're

like, oh, look at that little,

: 1164

00:40:14,862 --> 00:40:15,072

little

: 1165

00:40:15,072 --> 00:40:15,372

pill

: 1166

00:40:15,372 --> 00:40:15,972

looking thing.

: 1167

00:40:16,222 --> 00:40:16,512

Milo: Yeah.

: 1168

00:40:17,607 --> 00:40:20,907

They must have changed the look

a bit for the probe though.

: 1169

00:40:20,907 --> 00:40:25,137

'cause like you had the really kind

of circular, bubbly front grill,

: 1170

00:40:25,137 --> 00:40:27,987

and then they had kind of a sportier

looking version that has like

: 1171

00:40:27,987 --> 00:40:29,697

actual vents on the front and stuff.

: 1172

00:40:30,232 --> 00:40:34,042

Katie: So Halan Morris, and so

she plays Jake's girlfriend.

: 1173

00:40:34,042 --> 00:40:38,482

They're both like in their early

twenties, 23 and 24 respectively.

: 1174

00:40:39,262 --> 00:40:46,432

then the actor who plays Long Duck

Dong, it's, is it GED or Geddy?

: 1175

00:40:46,462 --> 00:40:49,972

G-E-D-D-E Wabe,

: 1176

00:40:51,457 --> 00:40:52,642

Milo: Your guess?

: 1177

00:40:52,732 --> 00:40:53,182

I don't know.

: 1178

00:40:53,182 --> 00:40:55,312

I'd, I'd say Ed Getty.

: 1179

00:40:55,942 --> 00:40:56,752

Katie: GED or Getty.

: 1180

00:40:56,932 --> 00:40:57,292

Milo: Getty.

: 1181

00:40:57,802 --> 00:40:58,162

Hmm.

: 1182

00:40:58,912 --> 00:40:59,692

Katie: So that's the actor.

: 1183

00:40:59,692 --> 00:41:01,732

He was 28 years old,

: 1184

00:41:02,392 --> 00:41:02,962

Milo: Really?

: 1185

00:41:03,202 --> 00:41:04,522

Oh, he looked much younger.

: 1186

00:41:05,422 --> 00:41:06,322

Katie: 28 years old.

: 1187

00:41:06,322 --> 00:41:06,802

Mm-hmm.

: 1188

00:41:07,912 --> 00:41:08,362

Yeah.

: 1189

00:41:08,392 --> 00:41:09,022

That's, that's

: 1190

00:41:09,052 --> 00:41:09,952

Jamie Fenderson: Asian dude.

: 1191

00:41:10,117 --> 00:41:10,407

Milo: Yeah.

: 1192

00:41:10,462 --> 00:41:10,792

Katie: yeah.

: 1193

00:41:10,792 --> 00:41:15,262

Now this is one of the this is one of

the biggest problem areas in the movie.

: 1194

00:41:15,562 --> 00:41:16,552

I mean, there are a lot

: 1195

00:41:16,597 --> 00:41:16,887

Milo: Yeah.

: 1196

00:41:17,512 --> 00:41:18,802

Katie: but this is a big one.

: 1197

00:41:19,102 --> 00:41:23,622

And he said in an interview

that he had a lot of anger.

: 1198

00:41:23,877 --> 00:41:27,777

Publicly expressed toward him for

playing this role for, you know,

: 1199

00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:32,127

like disse, like this is such a

negative stereotype for Asian men.

: 1200

00:41:32,907 --> 00:41:33,357

Yeah.

: 1201

00:41:33,387 --> 00:41:39,557

But Ebert, Roger Ebert, , came to his

defense writing he actually elevates

: 1202

00:41:39,587 --> 00:41:44,507

his role from potentially being an

offensive stereotype to high comedy.

: 1203

00:41:45,442 --> 00:41:45,662

Milo: Mm.

: 1204

00:41:46,097 --> 00:41:49,307

Katie: but since then, a lot of

people put it in the same category

: 1205

00:41:49,307 --> 00:41:50,777

as Mickey Rooney in breakfast at

: 1206

00:41:50,972 --> 00:41:51,392

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

: 1207

00:41:51,947 --> 00:41:55,007

Milo: Yeah, I, I, I would say

Mickey Rooneys is probably more

: 1208

00:41:55,007 --> 00:41:57,107

so because he's actually not Asian

: 1209

00:41:57,467 --> 00:41:57,857

Katie: Right.

: 1210

00:41:57,947 --> 00:42:00,887

Milo: where his, to where this

guy's, but the thing is he was

: 1211

00:42:00,887 --> 00:42:02,657

a young starting out actor.

: 1212

00:42:02,657 --> 00:42:04,637

He didn't have a lot of

credits prior to this.

: 1213

00:42:04,757 --> 00:42:08,267

So as an actor, you're like, you're

gonna pay me to be in a movie?

: 1214

00:42:08,597 --> 00:42:09,017

Yeah.

: 1215

00:42:09,077 --> 00:42:09,827

Okay, sure.

: 1216

00:42:09,827 --> 00:42:10,337

I'll do it.

: 1217

00:42:10,337 --> 00:42:11,567

Jamie Fenderson: and

you're not gonna blow me

: 1218

00:42:11,567 --> 00:42:12,437

up with a

: 1219

00:42:12,437 --> 00:42:12,887

missile

: 1220

00:42:12,887 --> 00:42:13,547

or something

: 1221

00:42:13,667 --> 00:42:14,177

Milo: Yeah.

: 1222

00:42:14,177 --> 00:42:14,837

Jamie Fenderson: the bad guy.

: 1223

00:42:14,867 --> 00:42:17,417

'cause that's a lot of

Asian American male actors.

: 1224

00:42:17,567 --> 00:42:17,987

That was kind

: 1225

00:42:17,987 --> 00:42:19,157

of like, like the roles you got

: 1226

00:42:19,157 --> 00:42:19,577

back then.

: 1227

00:42:20,027 --> 00:42:20,357

Milo: Yeah,

: 1228

00:42:20,362 --> 00:42:20,602

yeah.

: 1229

00:42:20,672 --> 00:42:21,152

Katie: he,

: 1230

00:42:21,332 --> 00:42:22,412

he doesn't have an accent.

: 1231

00:42:22,412 --> 00:42:24,722

Like he's born in the United

States, I can't remember.

: 1232

00:42:25,002 --> 00:42:27,222

I wanna say like Utah

or somewhere like really

: 1233

00:42:27,222 --> 00:42:27,302

Milo: Hmm.

: 1234

00:42:27,762 --> 00:42:28,002

Katie: like

: 1235

00:42:28,002 --> 00:42:28,362

that.

: 1236

00:42:29,152 --> 00:42:34,132

He had a friend from Korea and he

said he just mimicked his accent.

: 1237

00:42:35,342 --> 00:42:35,632

Milo: Nice.

: 1238

00:42:36,337 --> 00:42:39,397

Jamie Fenderson: So here's the

thing about the in early and mid

: 1239

00:42:39,397 --> 00:42:44,807

eighties is you could still make

fun of people in offensive ways.

: 1240

00:42:44,807 --> 00:42:48,257

Like black people, women, homosexuals.

: 1241

00:42:48,347 --> 00:42:52,907

You could still make fun of and,

And you can't get away with that

: 1242

00:42:52,907 --> 00:42:56,027

now on unless you're an Asian male.

: 1243

00:42:56,577 --> 00:43:01,557

I was kind of noticing that, that it

still seems even today, like it's okay

: 1244

00:43:01,557 --> 00:43:05,967

to make fun of Asian males if, if you

make fun of anybody else, it's offensive.

: 1245

00:43:05,967 --> 00:43:10,467

But you'll see, still see stuff out

there that's very kind of stereotypical.

: 1246

00:43:11,757 --> 00:43:17,697

And I thought that's interesting that the

Asian male hasn't really been protected

: 1247

00:43:17,697 --> 00:43:22,957

in the way that all these other groups of

people had in our current, kind of world.

: 1248

00:43:23,627 --> 00:43:24,557

So I just thought that's

: 1249

00:43:24,947 --> 00:43:25,997

Katie: males?

: 1250

00:43:25,997 --> 00:43:26,297

Jamie Fenderson: Mm.

: 1251

00:43:26,357 --> 00:43:28,187

I think it's specifically Asian males?

: 1252

00:43:28,187 --> 00:43:32,237

And you'll even see comedians, Asian

male comedians, they still play it up.

: 1253

00:43:32,657 --> 00:43:36,327

Sometimes you'll still see it and even

like at the high school, like with my

: 1254

00:43:36,327 --> 00:43:40,987

son, he has a lot of Asian male friends

and they were born here, but they still

: 1255

00:43:40,987 --> 00:43:42,997

seem to get a lot of that kind of thing.

: 1256

00:43:44,077 --> 00:43:46,327

So I was thinking that's interesting.

: 1257

00:43:46,327 --> 00:43:50,047

That this character

perpetuating that stereotype.

: 1258

00:43:50,047 --> 00:43:50,407

Yeah.

: 1259

00:43:50,407 --> 00:43:54,967

But that's one of the few

stereotypes that can still be around

: 1260

00:43:54,967 --> 00:43:55,507

today.

: 1261

00:43:57,032 --> 00:43:58,957

Milo: I don't know if it'd

be to this level though.

: 1262

00:43:59,047 --> 00:44:02,557

I mean, imagine seeing a modern

movie made to this level.

: 1263

00:44:02,557 --> 00:44:06,097

Like literally like every time he shows

up a dong ring, you know, like the,

: 1264

00:44:06,382 --> 00:44:06,922

Jamie Fenderson: The gong

: 1265

00:44:07,117 --> 00:44:07,237

Katie: the,

: 1266

00:44:07,237 --> 00:44:07,507

gong

: 1267

00:44:07,567 --> 00:44:07,837

Milo: yeah.

: 1268

00:44:07,947 --> 00:44:08,367

Katie: His,

: 1269

00:44:08,517 --> 00:44:08,967

Milo: come on.

: 1270

00:44:09,297 --> 00:44:11,367

Katie: is Long Dong,

: 1271

00:44:12,267 --> 00:44:13,017

Milo: What's your what?

: 1272

00:44:13,137 --> 00:44:15,507

Your last name dong your first name Long.

: 1273

00:44:16,017 --> 00:44:16,617

Ooh.

: 1274

00:44:17,877 --> 00:44:18,057

Katie: Oh.

: 1275

00:44:18,057 --> 00:44:18,147

And

: 1276

00:44:18,177 --> 00:44:22,147

he even doesn't he have like

karate gear on in, in one scene

: 1277

00:44:22,477 --> 00:44:23,527

Milo: Possibly.

: 1278

00:44:23,862 --> 00:44:24,152

Yeah.

: 1279

00:44:24,247 --> 00:44:24,817

Katie: and they, they

: 1280

00:44:24,817 --> 00:44:26,677

continually call him Chinaman.

: 1281

00:44:26,792 --> 00:44:27,212

Milo: Mm-hmm.

: 1282

00:44:27,472 --> 00:44:28,212

The Chinaman,

: 1283

00:44:29,004 --> 00:44:32,514

Katie: They have him using, some

of it's kind of funny, like he is,

: 1284

00:44:32,754 --> 00:44:37,464

he turns the silverware around to

use the ends of it, as chopsticks.

: 1285

00:44:38,544 --> 00:44:41,814

I guess the scene with the

exercise bike was his idea, the

: 1286

00:44:41,814 --> 00:44:43,704

actor's idea, because he found it.

: 1287

00:44:43,704 --> 00:44:46,464

in the home they were

filming in and had an idea.

: 1288

00:44:46,524 --> 00:44:51,194

So He did, I think probably it could have

been worse, I guess is what I'm saying.

: 1289

00:44:51,194 --> 00:44:53,434

I think he did make things funny.

: 1290

00:44:53,924 --> 00:44:58,974

But yeah yeah, there was a lot really,

: 1291

00:44:59,169 --> 00:44:59,179

Milo: it.

: 1292

00:44:59,244 --> 00:44:59,754

Katie: and like

: 1293

00:44:59,754 --> 00:45:02,994

they, they even insinuated

that the grandparents were kind

: 1294

00:45:02,994 --> 00:45:06,774

of using him for like labor,

: 1295

00:45:07,524 --> 00:45:09,834

Milo: He does a great job mowing the lawn.

: 1296

00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:13,284

Katie: They, well, they,

they listed like four things

: 1297

00:45:13,319 --> 00:45:13,609

Milo: Yeah.

: 1298

00:45:13,794 --> 00:45:14,004

Katie: Yeah.

: 1299

00:45:14,004 --> 00:45:14,154

he's

: 1300

00:45:14,154 --> 00:45:16,374

learning, he's Learning

all these American things.

: 1301

00:45:16,374 --> 00:45:16,464

And

: 1302

00:45:16,464 --> 00:45:18,024

Milo: Learning how to wash the dishes.

: 1303

00:45:18,024 --> 00:45:19,314

Katie: him doing their chores.

: 1304

00:45:19,434 --> 00:45:19,674

Milo: Yeah.

: 1305

00:45:19,997 --> 00:45:20,357

Yeah.

: 1306

00:45:20,357 --> 00:45:23,537

But hey, he gets the girl

that he was after, right?

: 1307

00:45:25,277 --> 00:45:25,967

So there you go.

: 1308

00:45:26,507 --> 00:45:28,407

Katie: And Molly Molly Ringwald playing.

: 1309

00:45:28,407 --> 00:45:29,397

Samantha is jealous.

: 1310

00:45:29,397 --> 00:45:31,647

She's like, he's here five

minutes and he finds love, and

: 1311

00:45:31,647 --> 00:45:32,787

I've been here my whole life.

: 1312

00:45:33,417 --> 00:45:34,017

Milo: Exactly.

: 1313

00:45:34,227 --> 00:45:34,557

Yeah.

: 1314

00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:37,387

It, it's definitely a character

you have to put into the

: 1315

00:45:37,387 --> 00:45:38,977

context of when it was made.

: 1316

00:45:39,667 --> 00:45:44,827

You certainly can't put it with our modern

sensibilities and just accept it for that.

: 1317

00:45:45,427 --> 00:45:51,307

Katie: I was a toddler in

I 84, but watching it, I, I

: 1318

00:45:51,307 --> 00:45:52,747

was kind of surprised that.

: 1319

00:45:52,747 --> 00:45:58,522

it was so blatant in the eighties,

like it's not the fifties,

: 1320

00:45:58,927 --> 00:45:59,137

Milo: Hmm.

: 1321

00:45:59,467 --> 00:45:59,737

Katie: I don't

: 1322

00:45:59,737 --> 00:46:00,337

know.

: 1323

00:46:00,697 --> 00:46:04,477

Milo: And it's kind of weird for John

Hughes too, who in general is pretty,

: 1324

00:46:04,717 --> 00:46:08,407

you know, he plays stuff for laughs,

but in general plays, you know, like

: 1325

00:46:08,407 --> 00:46:12,847

we were saying earlier, Wrights teens

reasonably respectably, but then he

: 1326

00:46:12,847 --> 00:46:18,127

throws this character in there that's

kind of a bit outta place just for laughs.

: 1327

00:46:18,127 --> 00:46:19,567

Just because, yeah.

: 1328

00:46:19,807 --> 00:46:21,517

Katie: why did the grandparents bring,

: 1329

00:46:21,877 --> 00:46:22,087

Milo: Yeah.

: 1330

00:46:22,297 --> 00:46:22,777

Katie: you're right.

: 1331

00:46:22,777 --> 00:46:24,247

It is kind of just, just for laugh.

: 1332

00:46:24,247 --> 00:46:28,357

And I, is notorious for having all white

: 1333

00:46:28,822 --> 00:46:29,242

Milo: Mm-hmm.

: 1334

00:46:29,947 --> 00:46:34,747

Katie: And then when there is someone

that is not white, they're a caricature.

: 1335

00:46:36,097 --> 00:46:36,427

Yeah.

: 1336

00:46:36,427 --> 00:46:36,877

Not great.

: 1337

00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:37,417

John Hughes.

: 1338

00:46:37,417 --> 00:46:37,777

Let's

: 1339

00:46:37,777 --> 00:46:38,107

Milo: Yeah.

: 1340

00:46:38,227 --> 00:46:38,767

Katie: on this

: 1341

00:46:38,767 --> 00:46:39,607

in your next life.

: 1342

00:46:39,667 --> 00:46:40,027

Milo: Yeah.

: 1343

00:46:40,087 --> 00:46:40,657

Come on, Sean.

: 1344

00:46:41,017 --> 00:46:41,317

Yeah.

: 1345

00:46:42,167 --> 00:46:45,197

Katie: So the grandparents I

thought were fucking hilarious.

: 1346

00:46:45,297 --> 00:46:46,827

Paul Dooley is her dad.

: 1347

00:46:46,887 --> 00:46:49,377

The grandparents, I guess I'm

not listening their, their names,

: 1348

00:46:49,377 --> 00:46:50,817

but you all know Paul Dooley.

: 1349

00:46:50,817 --> 00:46:52,917

He's extremely famous.

: 1350

00:46:52,947 --> 00:47:00,382

He plays her dad and then her mom is

played by Carlin Glynn which I didn't.

: 1351

00:47:01,297 --> 00:47:07,447

Know her from anything, but she

is the real life mother an actress

: 1352

00:47:07,447 --> 00:47:08,887

in another John Hughes movie.

: 1353

00:47:09,577 --> 00:47:09,877

You guys

: 1354

00:47:10,177 --> 00:47:12,937

Milo: Ooh, the Real Life Mother.

: 1355

00:47:13,432 --> 00:47:14,932

Jamie Fenderson: Stewart Antonio.

: 1356

00:47:14,962 --> 00:47:15,712

What, what, how do I

: 1357

00:47:15,712 --> 00:47:16,072

say it?

: 1358

00:47:16,237 --> 00:47:16,987

Katie: Jamie

: 1359

00:47:17,197 --> 00:47:17,857

Milo: Masterson.

: 1360

00:47:18,817 --> 00:47:19,747

Oh, did you look this up?

: 1361

00:47:19,747 --> 00:47:20,317

At some point?

: 1362

00:47:20,317 --> 00:47:21,127

How did you know that?

: 1363

00:47:21,142 --> 00:47:22,133

Jamie Fenderson: I, I, I

: 1364

00:47:22,138 --> 00:47:23,242

looked it up at some

: 1365

00:47:23,242 --> 00:47:23,602

point.

: 1366

00:47:23,662 --> 00:47:24,202

Yeah.

: 1367

00:47:24,517 --> 00:47:25,147

Milo: Good job.

: 1368

00:47:26,617 --> 00:47:28,417

Jamie's ready for your trivia night.

: 1369

00:47:29,202 --> 00:47:32,467

Katie: That's funny because you were

combining, I knew where you were going.

: 1370

00:47:32,467 --> 00:47:37,217

You were combining Mary Stewart

Masterson with Mary Antonio,

: 1371

00:47:38,192 --> 00:47:40,472

Jamie Fenderson: MAs master Antonio.

: 1372

00:47:40,532 --> 00:47:40,802

Mary,

: 1373

00:47:40,997 --> 00:47:41,567

Katie: Antonio.

: 1374

00:47:41,567 --> 00:47:41,717

Yeah.

: 1375

00:47:41,717 --> 00:47:42,227

It's like a hard

: 1376

00:47:42,327 --> 00:47:42,447

Jamie Fenderson: I

: 1377

00:47:43,217 --> 00:47:43,697

Katie: Yeah.

: 1378

00:47:43,802 --> 00:47:46,502

Jamie Fenderson: I was confusing

all of those, but you get what

: 1379

00:47:46,502 --> 00:47:47,912

I, I, I was getting there.

: 1380

00:47:48,137 --> 00:47:48,617

Katie: Yeah.

: 1381

00:47:49,037 --> 00:47:53,777

And then her sister who's getting married

is played by Blanche Baker, which I

: 1382

00:47:53,777 --> 00:48:00,517

think so her sister's name is Jenny in

this and, she's played by Blanche Baker.

: 1383

00:48:00,517 --> 00:48:03,907

And Baker is the actual

actress's last name too.

: 1384

00:48:04,057 --> 00:48:04,147

Milo: I

: 1385

00:48:04,147 --> 00:48:06,577

mean, should we talk about that

marriage, like she's basically

: 1386

00:48:06,577 --> 00:48:08,737

marrying into an abusive relationship?

: 1387

00:48:09,343 --> 00:48:12,133

Katie: Well, first of all,

yeah, who she marrying?

: 1388

00:48:12,223 --> 00:48:12,883

Who was he?

: 1389

00:48:12,883 --> 00:48:13,963

Who's the actor?

: 1390

00:48:13,963 --> 00:48:14,983

Milo: I recognized him.

: 1391

00:48:14,983 --> 00:48:17,713

I can't remember his name now, but

I knew, I knew it when I watched it.

: 1392

00:48:17,763 --> 00:48:19,113

I can't think of his name on the top head.

: 1393

00:48:19,218 --> 00:48:19,568

Katie: Capos

: 1394

00:48:19,983 --> 00:48:20,313

Milo: Yeah,

: 1395

00:48:20,643 --> 00:48:23,883

Katie: name, he's the janitor

in the breakfast club.

: 1396

00:48:24,033 --> 00:48:24,543

Milo: that's it.

: 1397

00:48:24,873 --> 00:48:25,173

Yep.

: 1398

00:48:25,263 --> 00:48:25,563

Yep.

: 1399

00:48:25,683 --> 00:48:25,983

I rec,

: 1400

00:48:26,028 --> 00:48:28,518

Jamie Fenderson: another

one other John Hughes movie.

: 1401

00:48:28,548 --> 00:48:32,388

'cause he's like one of the,

one of the like two actors who

: 1402

00:48:32,388 --> 00:48:34,128

was in three John Hughes movies.

: 1403

00:48:34,323 --> 00:48:36,213

Katie: He was in weird science also.

: 1404

00:48:36,633 --> 00:48:37,203

Milo: Hmm.

: 1405

00:48:37,368 --> 00:48:37,613

Jamie Fenderson: it is.

: 1406

00:48:38,003 --> 00:48:38,293

Yeah.

: 1407

00:48:38,433 --> 00:48:38,643

Katie: to

: 1408

00:48:38,643 --> 00:48:39,483

in Chicago.

: 1409

00:48:39,483 --> 00:48:39,513

I.

: 1410

00:48:39,633 --> 00:48:40,053

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

: 1411

00:48:40,263 --> 00:48:40,773

Katie: Yeah.

: 1412

00:48:41,163 --> 00:48:41,613

Yeah.

: 1413

00:48:41,673 --> 00:48:46,533

I like him as an actor, but I think they

should have expanded the scenes with his

: 1414

00:48:46,533 --> 00:48:49,083

parents, the dinner with his parents.

: 1415

00:48:49,098 --> 00:48:50,403

Milo: Yeah, that was a good scene.

: 1416

00:48:51,753 --> 00:48:52,503

Yeah, you're right.

: 1417

00:48:52,503 --> 00:48:54,873

They should have had

another scene with them.

: 1418

00:48:56,673 --> 00:48:59,523

Katie: Oh, and there's another

thing, like they offensively

: 1419

00:48:59,523 --> 00:49:01,503

call him the oily bow hunk.

: 1420

00:49:02,253 --> 00:49:04,678

Milo: Yeah, totally.

: 1421

00:49:04,728 --> 00:49:05,808

Jamie Fenderson: I wish somebody would

: 1422

00:49:05,813 --> 00:49:06,513

call me that.

: 1423

00:49:06,518 --> 00:49:06,918

That's

: 1424

00:49:06,918 --> 00:49:07,578

awesome.

: 1425

00:49:07,893 --> 00:49:10,923

Milo: The oily bow hunk are, Jamie, we

can start calling you that if you want.

: 1426

00:49:11,163 --> 00:49:11,463

Katie: And,

: 1427

00:49:11,598 --> 00:49:12,018

Jamie Fenderson: nickname.

: 1428

00:49:12,033 --> 00:49:14,643

Katie: what I actually

remember, I actually do.

: 1429

00:49:14,793 --> 00:49:16,273

And people for let's see.

: 1430

00:49:16,273 --> 00:49:21,973

How would you describe this is like a

Midwestern, like offensive slang term for

: 1431

00:49:24,103 --> 00:49:26,353

like eastern European countries, like

: 1432

00:49:26,713 --> 00:49:27,823

Jamie Fenderson: Oh, okay.

: 1433

00:49:28,663 --> 00:49:30,793

Katie: like at the time

it was Czechoslovakia

: 1434

00:49:31,963 --> 00:49:33,103

Jamie Fenderson: They used to call them

: 1435

00:49:34,938 --> 00:49:35,228

oily

: 1436

00:49:36,253 --> 00:49:36,463

bow hunks.

: 1437

00:49:36,613 --> 00:49:36,853

Katie: Am I

: 1438

00:49:36,913 --> 00:49:37,183

right?

: 1439

00:49:37,183 --> 00:49:38,443

Am I, am I getting that right?

: 1440

00:49:38,473 --> 00:49:39,853

Milo: I'd never heard that.

: 1441

00:49:39,853 --> 00:49:40,093

Jamie Fenderson: West

: 1442

00:49:40,333 --> 00:49:40,903

Milo: Yeah,

: 1443

00:49:41,203 --> 00:49:41,353

the

: 1444

00:49:41,713 --> 00:49:44,143

I'd never heard that term

other than in this film.

: 1445

00:49:44,323 --> 00:49:45,793

That's the only place I've ever heard it.

: 1446

00:49:45,913 --> 00:49:46,393

Jamie Fenderson: like a,

: 1447

00:49:46,423 --> 00:49:47,383

Katie: what that meant?

: 1448

00:49:47,443 --> 00:49:47,683

Jamie Fenderson: no,

: 1449

00:49:47,893 --> 00:49:48,133

Katie: Hunk?

: 1450

00:49:48,943 --> 00:49:49,153

Jamie Fenderson: I

: 1451

00:49:49,213 --> 00:49:51,343

Milo: I mean, I kind of got

it based on what they said and

: 1452

00:49:51,343 --> 00:49:52,513

who they were saying it to.

: 1453

00:49:52,543 --> 00:49:52,903

Right.

: 1454

00:49:52,903 --> 00:49:53,293

Because I.

: 1455

00:49:53,653 --> 00:49:56,778

Jamie Fenderson: like a, like a, a

buff dude who's kind of oiled down and

: 1456

00:49:56,778 --> 00:49:58,138

he's a bo, he's a hunk,

: 1457

00:49:58,138 --> 00:49:58,378

right?

: 1458

00:49:58,933 --> 00:50:00,973

Milo: So, yeah, I was thinking

kind of buff, but like oily and,

: 1459

00:50:00,978 --> 00:50:04,633

and that he's like sweats and eats

a lot of oily foods and stuff.

: 1460

00:50:04,633 --> 00:50:06,103

So I was thinking like gross, oily.

: 1461

00:50:06,643 --> 00:50:06,823

Katie: I

: 1462

00:50:06,823 --> 00:50:08,203

didn't really understand the oily.

: 1463

00:50:08,203 --> 00:50:12,763

bit because like the way they portrayed

the parents were more Italian stereotypes.

: 1464

00:50:13,483 --> 00:50:17,148

But he's, his name's Rudy and

their last name is like something

: 1465

00:50:17,148 --> 00:50:21,508

Czech so in the Midwest, which John

Hughes, this is like set in Chicago.

: 1466

00:50:21,508 --> 00:50:24,268

So in the Midwest there are a

lot of immigrants from those

: 1467

00:50:24,268 --> 00:50:25,288

Eastern European countries.

: 1468

00:50:25,288 --> 00:50:26,998

Like I'm thinking of like Czech.

: 1469

00:50:28,843 --> 00:50:31,183

Hungary, probably a couple others.

: 1470

00:50:31,423 --> 00:50:32,323

Vet those.

: 1471

00:50:32,983 --> 00:50:34,483

Yeah, those immigrants.

: 1472

00:50:35,323 --> 00:50:38,083

Like the slang offensive term was Bo hunk.

: 1473

00:50:38,458 --> 00:50:38,818

Milo: Oh.

: 1474

00:50:39,553 --> 00:50:39,793

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 1475

00:50:40,018 --> 00:50:40,138

Jamie Fenderson: I

: 1476

00:50:40,138 --> 00:50:41,338

better not

: 1477

00:50:41,338 --> 00:50:42,568

go around calling myself a

: 1478

00:50:42,568 --> 00:50:43,108

bow hunk.

: 1479

00:50:43,513 --> 00:50:44,053

Katie: don't.

: 1480

00:50:44,638 --> 00:50:45,568

Milo: well Is bo hunk?

: 1481

00:50:45,568 --> 00:50:45,808

Okay.

: 1482

00:50:45,808 --> 00:50:48,388

Without the oily part, could

we just call Jamie Bo hunk?

: 1483

00:50:48,388 --> 00:50:48,418

I.

: 1484

00:50:48,763 --> 00:50:50,413

Katie: It's like it's like saying whop.

: 1485

00:50:50,788 --> 00:50:51,528

Jamie Fenderson: What's wop?

: 1486

00:50:53,018 --> 00:50:53,318

Katie: It's a

: 1487

00:50:53,348 --> 00:50:56,168

Milo: well that one, I know that's

a defensive term for Italians.

: 1488

00:50:56,168 --> 00:50:57,398

Yeah, I definitely know that one.

: 1489

00:50:57,758 --> 00:50:59,018

Katie: offensive slang.

: 1490

00:50:59,228 --> 00:50:59,588

Milo: Yeah.

: 1491

00:50:59,738 --> 00:51:00,158

Katie: It's, in the

: 1492

00:51:00,158 --> 00:51:00,848

same vein.

: 1493

00:51:01,278 --> 00:51:04,758

But yeah, like the, the scene

with his parents, 'cause they were

: 1494

00:51:04,758 --> 00:51:09,128

over the top, but they seemed more

I again, like I like a, like a

: 1495

00:51:09,128 --> 00:51:12,638

really caricature mob, mob family.

: 1496

00:51:12,753 --> 00:51:13,173

Jamie Fenderson: mm-hmm.

: 1497

00:51:13,928 --> 00:51:16,868

Katie: he and the, even the

Godfather music comes on,

: 1498

00:51:17,528 --> 00:51:17,858

Milo: Yeah.

: 1499

00:51:18,098 --> 00:51:18,518

Katie: like when he

: 1500

00:51:18,518 --> 00:51:21,788

is like, oh my business,

it's little this little that.

: 1501

00:51:21,878 --> 00:51:22,388

And the

: 1502

00:51:22,448 --> 00:51:23,768

Jamie Fenderson: We don't

talk about my business

: 1503

00:51:26,013 --> 00:51:27,278

Milo: I can't talk about it too much.

: 1504

00:51:27,278 --> 00:51:28,328

I'm might have to kill you.

: 1505

00:51:28,483 --> 00:51:28,973

Come on.

: 1506

00:51:30,203 --> 00:51:32,243

Katie: Well, so where were you

going with the, she's marrying

: 1507

00:51:32,243 --> 00:51:34,103

into an abusive relationship.

: 1508

00:51:34,178 --> 00:51:36,458

' Milo: cause he is really quite insulting.

: 1509

00:51:36,938 --> 00:51:39,488

Well, like he's really

quite insulting towards her,

: 1510

00:51:40,148 --> 00:51:44,838

you know, he says something at

some point to her and even the

: 1511

00:51:44,838 --> 00:51:46,518

dad kind of has a reaction to it.

: 1512

00:51:47,133 --> 00:51:50,803

Her dad I don't even remember what he

says to her, but he just kind of comes

: 1513

00:51:50,803 --> 00:51:53,713

across as like very demeaning towards her

: 1514

00:51:53,718 --> 00:51:54,008

' Katie: Well,

: 1515

00:51:54,523 --> 00:51:55,213

Milo: and so,

: 1516

00:51:55,243 --> 00:51:58,543

Katie: mom says something like,

oh, he's gonna have to stop now.

: 1517

00:51:58,543 --> 00:52:00,313

He's marrying her.

: 1518

00:52:01,153 --> 00:52:02,623

He'll have to stop with the,

: 1519

00:52:02,863 --> 00:52:03,343

Milo: you know, yeah.

: 1520

00:52:03,343 --> 00:52:04,993

Sleeping around or something like that.

: 1521

00:52:04,993 --> 00:52:05,863

Yeah, exactly.

: 1522

00:52:06,403 --> 00:52:08,173

And then I think he says something too.

: 1523

00:52:08,773 --> 00:52:09,133

Yeah.

: 1524

00:52:09,223 --> 00:52:12,383

Nothing wrong with Logan or

whatever he says, but yeah, just

: 1525

00:52:12,383 --> 00:52:13,793

kinda like his attitude and stuff.

: 1526

00:52:13,793 --> 00:52:17,153

So maybe not like physically abusive,

but more like kind of emotionally

: 1527

00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:18,563

abusive, is the way I take it.

: 1528

00:52:18,563 --> 00:52:20,143

Like he's gonna put her down a lot.

: 1529

00:52:20,438 --> 00:52:20,728

Yeah.

: 1530

00:52:20,818 --> 00:52:24,118

Katie: basically does kidnap her at the

church 'cause she's like completely out of

: 1531

00:52:24,253 --> 00:52:24,433

Milo: Yeah.

: 1532

00:52:24,433 --> 00:52:25,183

She's b blitzing.

: 1533

00:52:25,183 --> 00:52:25,453

He is like,

: 1534

00:52:26,533 --> 00:52:27,283

come with me.

: 1535

00:52:27,448 --> 00:52:27,778

Katie: the

: 1536

00:52:27,973 --> 00:52:28,273

Milo: Yeah.

: 1537

00:52:29,248 --> 00:52:29,908

Relaxants.

: 1538

00:52:29,908 --> 00:52:30,238

Great.

: 1539

00:52:30,268 --> 00:52:31,708

Let's hit the honeymoon suite.

: 1540

00:52:32,278 --> 00:52:32,340

Jamie Fenderson: in the car.

: 1541

00:52:34,633 --> 00:52:34,873

Katie: yeah.

: 1542

00:52:34,873 --> 00:52:35,803

And even like

: 1543

00:52:35,848 --> 00:52:38,698

Milo: And the parents are like, come

on, go get married, get outta the house.

: 1544

00:52:39,418 --> 00:52:41,368

We don't care that you're

all hopped up on meds.

: 1545

00:52:41,863 --> 00:52:44,473

Katie: no, they're trying to

offload one of those kids,

: 1546

00:52:44,488 --> 00:52:44,848

Milo: Yeah,

: 1547

00:52:45,043 --> 00:52:45,313

Katie: her be

: 1548

00:52:45,313 --> 00:52:46,273

somebody else's

: 1549

00:52:46,738 --> 00:52:47,608

Milo: we need the space.

: 1550

00:52:47,608 --> 00:52:48,778

Too many kids in this house.

: 1551

00:52:49,483 --> 00:52:50,323

Katie: Indeed.

: 1552

00:52:51,403 --> 00:52:54,903

but like her being on her period,

one of the kids is even like, Oh that

: 1553

00:52:54,903 --> 00:52:56,433

should make for an interesting honeymoon

: 1554

00:52:56,508 --> 00:52:57,108

Milo: Oh yeah,

: 1555

00:52:57,153 --> 00:52:59,523

Katie: I'm like, wow.

: 1556

00:52:59,523 --> 00:53:00,033

I don't know.

: 1557

00:53:00,033 --> 00:53:00,603

I don't know.

: 1558

00:53:00,918 --> 00:53:02,148

Milo: he, I think he says that.

: 1559

00:53:02,148 --> 00:53:03,198

The husband says that,

: 1560

00:53:03,828 --> 00:53:04,308

doesn't he?

: 1561

00:53:04,578 --> 00:53:05,598

I think it's the husband.

: 1562

00:53:05,628 --> 00:53:09,078

They say because they overhear it and

then he makes some kind of comment

: 1563

00:53:09,078 --> 00:53:11,598

or something when he's standing there

in the church waiting like, whoa.

: 1564

00:53:11,808 --> 00:53:12,948

Make very interesting outta mood.

: 1565

00:53:14,118 --> 00:53:16,638

Katie: four muscle

relaxers for your period.

: 1566

00:53:17,058 --> 00:53:17,448

Milo: Yeah.

: 1567

00:53:17,778 --> 00:53:20,028

Katie: come on, them on.

: 1568

00:53:20,028 --> 00:53:21,228

I'll take 'em, I guess,

: 1569

00:53:21,503 --> 00:53:21,793

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah,

: 1570

00:53:22,308 --> 00:53:23,178

Milo: On your wedding day.

: 1571

00:53:23,178 --> 00:53:23,658

Yeah,

: 1572

00:53:23,718 --> 00:53:24,678

Jamie Fenderson: else going on there.

: 1573

00:53:25,848 --> 00:53:26,718

Milo: that's what I'm saying.

: 1574

00:53:26,718 --> 00:53:31,398

Katie: seriously, who needs a muscle

relaxer for their period and then Four of

: 1575

00:53:31,428 --> 00:53:32,088

Milo: Four of them.

: 1576

00:53:32,898 --> 00:53:33,348

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 1577

00:53:33,858 --> 00:53:34,188

Milo: Yeah.

: 1578

00:53:34,323 --> 00:53:35,313

Jamie Fenderson: and I can't comment

: 1579

00:53:35,313 --> 00:53:35,463

on

: 1580

00:53:35,463 --> 00:53:36,303

that, but

: 1581

00:53:36,363 --> 00:53:36,693

Milo: No,

: 1582

00:53:36,693 --> 00:53:36,933

Jamie Fenderson: take

: 1583

00:53:37,023 --> 00:53:37,293

Milo: no.

: 1584

00:53:37,338 --> 00:53:37,678

Jamie Fenderson: for it.

: 1585

00:53:37,713 --> 00:53:39,093

Milo: I mean, I'll take

your, I'll take the four.

: 1586

00:53:39,093 --> 00:53:42,453

I'll take the muscle relaxants, but

can't comment on the other other part.

: 1587

00:53:42,513 --> 00:53:42,753

Yeah,

: 1588

00:53:42,888 --> 00:53:43,398

Katie: the drugs,

: 1589

00:53:43,473 --> 00:53:44,193

Milo: exactly.

: 1590

00:53:45,531 --> 00:53:48,921

Katie: Also, I don't know, again, maybe

this is I feel like a thing back in the

: 1591

00:53:48,921 --> 00:53:51,474

day, people, got married very quickly.

: 1592

00:53:51,654 --> 00:53:55,874

She's like trying to say that I

actually like this one longer than I

: 1593

00:53:55,874 --> 00:53:58,304

like most of them, and he loves me.

: 1594

00:53:58,949 --> 00:54:03,659

It's been six months with the same person.

: 1595

00:54:04,124 --> 00:54:04,584

Jamie Fenderson: Six months.

: 1596

00:54:05,699 --> 00:54:07,049

Milo: Clearly we should get married

: 1597

00:54:07,649 --> 00:54:08,669

Katie: Like the

: 1598

00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:10,259

Milo: in those six months.

: 1599

00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:10,949

Katie: in.

: 1600

00:54:10,949 --> 00:54:11,399

Yeah.

: 1601

00:54:11,459 --> 00:54:15,449

And they're from meeting

to marriage six months.

: 1602

00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:19,643

Milo: Yeah, when it's love, you just know

and you gotta get married right away.

: 1603

00:54:20,423 --> 00:54:20,933

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 1604

00:54:21,368 --> 00:54:24,488

Jamie Fenderson: in general

in: 1984

: 1605

00:54:25,268 --> 00:54:26,648

Do you remember that at all?

: 1606

00:54:27,683 --> 00:54:28,493

Katie: That's what I wondered.

: 1607

00:54:28,493 --> 00:54:30,503

That's what I I kind of think so.

: 1608

00:54:31,103 --> 00:54:32,693

Milo: But within six months though,

: 1609

00:54:33,593 --> 00:54:35,003

I still think that's pretty quick.

: 1610

00:54:35,513 --> 00:54:35,843

Katie: I feel

: 1611

00:54:35,903 --> 00:54:36,173

Milo: Yeah,

: 1612

00:54:36,173 --> 00:54:36,953

Katie: happened a lot.

: 1613

00:54:37,253 --> 00:54:37,613

Milo: Yeah,

: 1614

00:54:38,113 --> 00:54:38,403

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 1615

00:54:38,603 --> 00:54:39,083

Katie: yeah.

: 1616

00:54:40,253 --> 00:54:40,523

Milo: yeah.

: 1617

00:54:40,613 --> 00:54:42,533

Maybe she was pregnant and

they just didn't tell anybody.

: 1618

00:54:42,623 --> 00:54:42,923

Oh no.

: 1619

00:54:42,953 --> 00:54:44,033

'cause she had her period.

: 1620

00:54:44,273 --> 00:54:44,633

Katie: Yeah.

: 1621

00:54:44,693 --> 00:54:45,203

Milo: Nevermind.

: 1622

00:54:46,538 --> 00:54:47,198

Jamie Fenderson: Deb bumped.

: 1623

00:54:48,113 --> 00:54:48,413

Milo: Yeah.

: 1624

00:54:48,443 --> 00:54:48,863

Nevermind.

: 1625

00:54:50,213 --> 00:54:51,833

Katie: Hey, we know how biology works

: 1626

00:54:51,953 --> 00:54:52,583

Milo: Yeah.

: 1627

00:54:52,793 --> 00:54:52,853

Katie: show.

: 1628

00:54:53,584 --> 00:54:57,964

Jamie Fenderson: I really like, I really

like former Ted, though, the geek,

: 1629

00:54:59,074 --> 00:55:04,834

and here's why he's such a geek, but

he's just got this awesome confidence.

: 1630

00:55:06,139 --> 00:55:07,189

Yo, what's up baby?

: 1631

00:55:07,189 --> 00:55:07,759

How you doing?

: 1632

00:55:07,809 --> 00:55:08,889

I'm just like, that's the,

: 1633

00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:10,509

love that kid.

: 1634

00:55:10,989 --> 00:55:14,649

Like he's a geek, he's,

he's, he's just geeking out.

: 1635

00:55:14,649 --> 00:55:17,379

But he's, he, he's

comfortable in his own skin.

: 1636

00:55:17,379 --> 00:55:18,579

He is like yeah, am I a geek?

: 1637

00:55:18,579 --> 00:55:20,499

Sure thing, but I'm awesome sauce.

: 1638

00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,409

I'm a, I'm a little bottle of

awesome sauce and I know it.

: 1639

00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,199

That's why I really like his character.

: 1640

00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,989

I like, I like the actor Anthony

Michael Hall, who plays him.

: 1641

00:55:29,989 --> 00:55:32,769

'cause he does look like kind

of a little geek he's 15, but

: 1642

00:55:32,769 --> 00:55:34,269

he hasn't hit puberty yet.

: 1643

00:55:35,019 --> 00:55:37,179

he's a geek, but he's just owning himself,

: 1644

00:55:37,509 --> 00:55:38,139

you know?

: 1645

00:55:38,174 --> 00:55:39,414

Katie: like the leader of his little geek

: 1646

00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:39,669

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 1647

00:55:40,074 --> 00:55:42,624

Milo: I would imagine John Cusack

would be the leader of the group.

: 1648

00:55:42,624 --> 00:55:43,104

I mean, he's.

: 1649

00:55:43,779 --> 00:55:45,129

John Cusack, come on.

: 1650

00:55:45,249 --> 00:55:46,509

Katie: thinking the same thing, Milo.

: 1651

00:55:46,509 --> 00:55:51,769

So yes, you guys, John Cusack plays a

friend and his sister Joan is in this

: 1652

00:55:51,889 --> 00:55:52,279

Milo: Yeah.

: 1653

00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:53,389

Katie: which

: 1654

00:55:53,899 --> 00:55:56,209

Milo: Also could be considered

an offensive character

: 1655

00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:59,839

Katie: she wear, she has a back

brace and is played for hilarity

: 1656

00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:02,059

and it kind of was, I mean, she,

: 1657

00:56:03,079 --> 00:56:04,514

Milo: trying to drink

water outta the fountain.

: 1658

00:56:04,969 --> 00:56:08,119

Katie: she, she can't drink a

beer, she can't drink water.

: 1659

00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:11,329

She is just like, she was, she's funny.

: 1660

00:56:11,329 --> 00:56:13,909

I I love Joan Cusack, as an actress,

: 1661

00:56:13,984 --> 00:56:14,274

Milo: Yeah.

: 1662

00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:16,789

Katie: even seeing her in this tiny role.

: 1663

00:56:17,189 --> 00:56:17,579

But Yeah.

: 1664

00:56:17,629 --> 00:56:22,309

And the headgear, the Anthony

Michael Hall has like just back

: 1665

00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:24,139

braces and headgear in general.

: 1666

00:56:24,169 --> 00:56:26,959

Like how, how eighties.

: 1667

00:56:27,324 --> 00:56:30,229

Milo: So does he carry his

headgear around with him though?

: 1668

00:56:30,329 --> 00:56:31,499

But on the headgear?

: 1669

00:56:31,709 --> 00:56:34,019

'cause he wakes up in the car

with the girl the next day.

: 1670

00:56:34,019 --> 00:56:34,349

Right.

: 1671

00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:35,609

And he is wearing his headgear.

: 1672

00:56:36,224 --> 00:56:39,044

So did he go home and get it at

some point or does he just carry

: 1673

00:56:39,044 --> 00:56:42,044

it around with him just in case

he happens to pass out somewhere?

: 1674

00:56:42,674 --> 00:56:43,694

Katie: Great question.

: 1675

00:56:43,904 --> 00:56:45,314

Here's how I'm answering it.

: 1676

00:56:45,434 --> 00:56:50,264

They were, this is like a Friday night

and they were all sleeping over at

: 1677

00:56:50,264 --> 00:56:51,614

one of the geek's house, remember?

: 1678

00:56:51,644 --> 00:56:53,234

'cause later he goes over there, so they

: 1679

00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:53,659

Milo: Oh, it,

: 1680

00:56:53,714 --> 00:56:55,574

Katie: sleepover, so he

probably had it with him

: 1681

00:56:55,809 --> 00:56:56,099

Milo: okay.

: 1682

00:56:56,599 --> 00:56:56,899

All right.

: 1683

00:56:57,134 --> 00:56:58,394

Katie: in prep for the sleepover.

: 1684

00:56:58,394 --> 00:56:59,414

That's how I'm answering it.

: 1685

00:56:59,659 --> 00:56:59,949

Milo: Sure.

: 1686

00:57:00,099 --> 00:57:00,749

I'll allow it.

: 1687

00:57:01,369 --> 00:57:03,674

Jamie Fenderson: But isn't that

such a teenager thing though?

: 1688

00:57:03,674 --> 00:57:04,874

John Hughes gets it.

: 1689

00:57:05,144 --> 00:57:08,564

You have braces or you have a

back brace, or you have headgear.

: 1690

00:57:08,594 --> 00:57:11,564

I remember my son for a while

had this big thing on his.

: 1691

00:57:12,464 --> 00:57:15,014

Face to move his jaws or whatever.

: 1692

00:57:15,014 --> 00:57:15,614

Just like,

: 1693

00:57:15,769 --> 00:57:16,059

Katie: Uhhuh

: 1694

00:57:17,054 --> 00:57:19,244

Jamie Fenderson: it's just,

just an awkward time, right?

: 1695

00:57:19,244 --> 00:57:23,024

Like your parents are trying to make

sure your body isn't disfigured, so

: 1696

00:57:23,024 --> 00:57:27,404

they're giving you these things to,

you're growing, you're a teenager,

: 1697

00:57:27,404 --> 00:57:31,904

you've got braces and back braces

and, and headgear and all this stuff.

: 1698

00:57:31,904 --> 00:57:33,314

That's a very teenager thing.

: 1699

00:57:34,049 --> 00:57:34,769

Milo: Which is the,

: 1700

00:57:34,814 --> 00:57:34,964

Jamie Fenderson: on

: 1701

00:57:34,964 --> 00:57:35,264

top

: 1702

00:57:35,264 --> 00:57:35,984

of that, you gotta

: 1703

00:57:35,999 --> 00:57:36,119

Milo: yeah,

: 1704

00:57:36,164 --> 00:57:36,674

Jamie Fenderson: your acne

: 1705

00:57:36,674 --> 00:57:37,214

medicine.

: 1706

00:57:37,514 --> 00:57:37,844

It's just

: 1707

00:57:37,844 --> 00:57:38,714

awkward time,

: 1708

00:57:38,759 --> 00:57:39,839

Milo: it's the worst time.

: 1709

00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:42,419

And of course every kid at

school makes fun of you for it.

: 1710

00:57:42,419 --> 00:57:42,809

Yeah.

: 1711

00:57:42,979 --> 00:57:43,399

Jamie Fenderson: that's

: 1712

00:57:43,409 --> 00:57:44,009

Milo: Geez.

: 1713

00:57:44,024 --> 00:57:45,284

Jamie Fenderson: Johnny

this in this movie.

: 1714

00:57:45,284 --> 00:57:47,114

I hadn't seen it a while,

but that's why I really?

: 1715

00:57:47,114 --> 00:57:51,074

like it because it captures a lot of

the awkwardness of teenagers, right?

: 1716

00:57:51,284 --> 00:57:54,674

That being a teenager, like you

worry about the what the boy thinks

: 1717

00:57:54,674 --> 00:57:56,804

about You Unlike when you're our age.

: 1718

00:57:56,804 --> 00:57:57,584

You're like, I don't give a

: 1719

00:57:57,584 --> 00:57:58,604

shit what that guy thinks

: 1720

00:57:58,604 --> 00:57:58,934

about

: 1721

00:57:58,934 --> 00:57:59,054

me.

: 1722

00:57:59,664 --> 00:57:59,954

Milo: Yeah.

: 1723

00:57:59,984 --> 00:58:00,914

Jamie Fenderson: can go pound sand.

: 1724

00:58:01,619 --> 00:58:02,549

Katie: You are right.

: 1725

00:58:02,669 --> 00:58:07,829

'cause I'm so far removed from being

15, that I'm like, I don't care.

: 1726

00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:11,639

Like she's concerned about not filling

out her dress, like her boobs, like she

: 1727

00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:13,529

has boobs, but they're not big boobs.

: 1728

00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:16,769

And she's like jealous of the

older, you know, the senior

: 1729

00:58:16,769 --> 00:58:19,729

girls and was the boy like me.

: 1730

00:58:19,729 --> 00:58:24,929

And even in the, the scene where she's

like writing the note, it's like an

: 1731

00:58:24,929 --> 00:58:29,099

anonymous questionnaire about basically

sexual things and she's answering it

: 1732

00:58:29,099 --> 00:58:30,599

and then she's supposed to pass it back.

: 1733

00:58:31,709 --> 00:58:38,579

And the massive embarrassment I

would die if the boy that I had a

: 1734

00:58:38,579 --> 00:58:43,469

crush on read the note that I just

said I wanted to have sex with him

: 1735

00:58:44,299 --> 00:58:44,589

Milo: Yeah.

: 1736

00:58:45,089 --> 00:58:45,209

Katie: I

: 1737

00:58:45,209 --> 00:58:47,639

mean, just disaster waiting.

: 1738

00:58:47,789 --> 00:58:48,089

Yeah.

: 1739

00:58:48,089 --> 00:58:52,589

So I had forgotten and it

really took me back to being 15.

: 1740

00:58:53,444 --> 00:58:56,014

Jamie Fenderson: Because you're so

self-conscious and I see it in my

: 1741

00:58:56,074 --> 00:59:01,114

teen son, he like really, he cares

if he smells or not, and he's always

: 1742

00:59:01,114 --> 00:59:02,464

wearing like cologne

: 1743

00:59:02,464 --> 00:59:02,974

and stuff.

: 1744

00:59:02,974 --> 00:59:03,094

I'm

: 1745

00:59:03,244 --> 00:59:03,844

Milo: Totally.

: 1746

00:59:03,904 --> 00:59:07,054

I totally work alone when I

was young, like a teenager.

: 1747

00:59:07,414 --> 00:59:08,164

Gotta smell good.

: 1748

00:59:08,254 --> 00:59:08,914

Do my hair.

: 1749

00:59:08,914 --> 00:59:10,534

Jamie Fenderson: like a,

like a, whore house in here.

: 1750

00:59:10,534 --> 00:59:11,254

What's going on?

: 1751

00:59:12,034 --> 00:59:13,504

are you gonna sell some watches?

: 1752

00:59:13,504 --> 00:59:14,164

Jesus.

: 1753

00:59:14,494 --> 00:59:15,814

But he's like, I don't wanna smell bad.

: 1754

00:59:15,814 --> 00:59:18,724

I'm gonna go see my girlfriend, dude,

how could you possibly smell bad?

: 1755

00:59:18,724 --> 00:59:20,734

You took a bath in Cologne.

: 1756

00:59:21,124 --> 00:59:22,444

Just can you ease up on that?

: 1757

00:59:22,624 --> 00:59:25,444

Because back then I remember

though, I didn't wanna smell either.

: 1758

00:59:25,444 --> 00:59:26,674

Now I'm like, yeah,

: 1759

00:59:26,674 --> 00:59:27,334

I'm all right.

: 1760

00:59:27,549 --> 00:59:27,839

Milo: Yeah,

: 1761

00:59:27,934 --> 00:59:28,354

Jamie Fenderson: enough.

: 1762

00:59:28,539 --> 00:59:29,439

Milo: go a couple more days.

: 1763

00:59:29,669 --> 00:59:30,199

It's all good.

: 1764

00:59:30,379 --> 00:59:30,979

Katie: No, I, I

: 1765

00:59:31,234 --> 00:59:32,164

Jamie Fenderson: But you care

: 1766

00:59:32,449 --> 00:59:32,629

Katie: I

: 1767

00:59:32,674 --> 00:59:33,304

Jamie Fenderson: when you're a teenager.

: 1768

00:59:33,679 --> 00:59:34,609

Katie: wearing the cologne.

: 1769

00:59:34,609 --> 00:59:36,589

'cause I remember loving

: 1770

00:59:36,589 --> 00:59:38,539

the scent that my boyfriend wore.

: 1771

00:59:38,539 --> 00:59:40,039

And like when I'd wear his shirt you

: 1772

00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:40,339

Milo: Mm.

: 1773

00:59:40,489 --> 00:59:40,819

Katie: a shirt

: 1774

00:59:41,089 --> 00:59:41,379

Milo: Yeah.

: 1775

00:59:41,479 --> 00:59:41,989

Katie: I'm like, oh, it

: 1776

00:59:41,989 --> 00:59:43,069

smells like him.

: 1777

00:59:43,159 --> 00:59:44,630

You know, I.

: 1778

00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:45,500

Jamie Fenderson: care.

: 1779

00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,000

They care that teenagers care.

: 1780

00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,170

That's why I like this movie.

: 1781

00:59:48,170 --> 00:59:50,750

It took me back to like

teenager hood where you care.

: 1782

00:59:50,750 --> 00:59:54,440

It would be, they all care about

stuff like that, and it's nice.

: 1783

00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:55,460

I, you know,

: 1784

00:59:55,610 --> 00:59:56,720

I, they're

: 1785

00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:57,410

awkward

: 1786

00:59:57,505 --> 00:59:57,965

Milo: It kind.

: 1787

00:59:58,010 --> 01:00:00,500

It is nice, but it also

makes you really insecure.

: 1788

01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:05,480

I never want to go to that level

of insecurity ever again, you know?

: 1789

01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:06,830

Jamie Fenderson: you're farmer, Ted, the

: 1790

01:00:06,830 --> 01:00:07,850

geek man, he doesn't

: 1791

01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,210

Milo: Yeah.

: 1792

01:00:08,215 --> 01:00:08,570

Jamie Fenderson: insecurities.

: 1793

01:00:08,570 --> 01:00:08,660

He's

: 1794

01:00:09,110 --> 01:00:09,620

like, here's my

: 1795

01:00:09,620 --> 01:00:10,010

headgear,

: 1796

01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:10,580

whatever.

: 1797

01:00:10,730 --> 01:00:10,940

I'm

: 1798

01:00:10,940 --> 01:00:11,570

awesome.

: 1799

01:00:11,690 --> 01:00:14,060

Milo: he's also almost

a sexual predator guy.

: 1800

01:00:14,060 --> 01:00:15,560

Does not take no for an answer.

: 1801

01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,070

Come on.

: 1802

01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,020

Like how many times does she say no?

: 1803

01:00:18,020 --> 01:00:20,450

She's like, no, no, no.

: 1804

01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:21,440

Get off me.

: 1805

01:00:21,530 --> 01:00:22,340

No.

: 1806

01:00:22,550 --> 01:00:25,640

You know, and then he is like,

oh sure, I'll take your passed

: 1807

01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:26,870

out drunk girlfriend home.

: 1808

01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:27,470

Just throw them.

: 1809

01:00:27,475 --> 01:00:28,430

Yeah, no problem.

: 1810

01:00:28,730 --> 01:00:31,880

He's more worried about driving

the car than the girl, you know?

: 1811

01:00:33,110 --> 01:00:34,490

He's like, that's a nice car.

: 1812

01:00:34,490 --> 01:00:35,360

I can't drive that.

: 1813

01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,310

Can't I just throw your girlfriend?

: 1814

01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:38,060

You know?

: 1815

01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:38,510

And

: 1816

01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:38,990

Jamie Fenderson: on the

: 1817

01:00:39,045 --> 01:00:39,245

bus.

: 1818

01:00:39,590 --> 01:00:40,790

Milo: on the bus exactly.

: 1819

01:00:41,180 --> 01:00:43,490

Katie: like this night,

they're at a dance.

: 1820

01:00:44,285 --> 01:00:46,685

From, from Anthony,

Michael Hall's character.

: 1821

01:00:46,745 --> 01:00:48,125

He makes a bet.

: 1822

01:00:48,335 --> 01:00:49,355

This is just wild.

: 1823

01:00:49,455 --> 01:00:54,225

The events that happen that he does,

that he should feel responsible for.

: 1824

01:00:54,975 --> 01:00:59,205

He bets his loser friends that he

is basically gonna have sex that

: 1825

01:00:59,205 --> 01:01:02,585

night then and there with Samantha.

: 1826

01:01:04,235 --> 01:01:07,805

they somehow end up in the

shop room in a half built car.

: 1827

01:01:08,555 --> 01:01:09,305

Yeah, Milo.

: 1828

01:01:09,305 --> 01:01:10,865

He comes onto her like

: 1829

01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,155

Milo: It is hard.

: 1830

01:01:12,275 --> 01:01:14,945

Katie: mos her and she's like, get off.

: 1831

01:01:15,395 --> 01:01:18,485

And he's like, I think he

maybe even said, I'm sorry.

: 1832

01:01:18,485 --> 01:01:20,165

And then she said, it's okay.

: 1833

01:01:20,435 --> 01:01:26,135

He takes it's okay as permission

to start doing it again.

: 1834

01:01:26,495 --> 01:01:31,845

And, because he actually does like her and

I think he does respect her, he tells her.

: 1835

01:01:32,340 --> 01:01:35,340

This little secret that he

has with his friends, and she

: 1836

01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:37,770

gave him the panties to use.

: 1837

01:01:39,425 --> 01:01:39,715

Milo: Yeah.

: 1838

01:01:39,945 --> 01:01:40,395

Jamie Fenderson: him too.

: 1839

01:01:40,395 --> 01:01:40,995

Actually.

: 1840

01:01:40,995 --> 01:01:42,225

I think she likes him too.

: 1841

01:01:42,375 --> 01:01:45,435

She doesn't want to get it on with

him, but I think she respects his

: 1842

01:01:45,495 --> 01:01:46,305

tenacity.

: 1843

01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:47,910

Milo: I dunno.

: 1844

01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,090

Katie: then all these,

like freshmen boys pay to

: 1845

01:01:51,180 --> 01:01:52,920

Milo: Yes, exactly.

: 1846

01:01:53,340 --> 01:01:54,000

$1.

: 1847

01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:54,960

You wanna see the panties?

: 1848

01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,770

$1.

: 1849

01:01:56,340 --> 01:02:01,980

Katie: which by the way, what, how, how

are they buying this as proof of sex?

: 1850

01:02:02,730 --> 01:02:04,530

He could have just bought those,

: 1851

01:02:04,650 --> 01:02:05,100

Milo: Yeah.

: 1852

01:02:06,270 --> 01:02:09,480

Or found him somewhere

or ran to the store.

: 1853

01:02:09,930 --> 01:02:10,350

Yeah.

: 1854

01:02:10,530 --> 01:02:11,400

Could have got him anywhere.

: 1855

01:02:12,570 --> 01:02:12,780

No.

: 1856

01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:13,560

Katie: So then later

: 1857

01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,830

in the evening, he's in a

car with yet another woman

: 1858

01:02:17,340 --> 01:02:19,080

Milo: After trading the panties for her.

: 1859

01:02:20,310 --> 01:02:21,660

Katie: That's right.

: 1860

01:02:22,380 --> 01:02:23,220

make a deal.

: 1861

01:02:23,220 --> 01:02:23,490

Tell

: 1862

01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,030

Milo: Yes.

: 1863

01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:24,930

Katie: Milo.

: 1864

01:02:24,930 --> 01:02:25,800

Tell us about

: 1865

01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,140

this, deal that Jake.

: 1866

01:02:28,215 --> 01:02:30,165

I, he trades his girl.

: 1867

01:02:30,215 --> 01:02:31,385

This is just wild.

: 1868

01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,920

Milo: He's literally like his

girlfriend's passed out drunk and he

: 1869

01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:42,350

finds Anthony Michael Hall, hi, in

his house and he's, Anthony's making

: 1870

01:02:42,350 --> 01:02:48,530

him a drink and, and mentions the

panties and he is like, Hey, I'll trade

: 1871

01:02:48,530 --> 01:02:52,550

you those pan, gimme the panties and

I'll let you take my girlfriend home.

: 1872

01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,020

And he is like, well, I can't do that.

: 1873

01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:56,090

And he's like, oh no, she's passed out.

: 1874

01:02:56,090 --> 01:02:57,590

She wouldn't know me from you.

: 1875

01:02:57,740 --> 01:02:58,430

It's fine.

: 1876

01:02:58,940 --> 01:02:59,450

Go for it.

: 1877

01:03:01,060 --> 01:03:03,995

Katie: And then he even tells her I'm

: 1878

01:03:04,145 --> 01:03:04,385

Milo: am.

: 1879

01:03:04,595 --> 01:03:04,835

Yeah.

: 1880

01:03:05,145 --> 01:03:06,585

Katie: To con Now

: 1881

01:03:06,885 --> 01:03:07,185

Milo: Yes.

: 1882

01:03:07,185 --> 01:03:08,565

So she wakes up for a second.

: 1883

01:03:08,805 --> 01:03:14,265

Katie: it, but did you mean, did, was

he giving permission to sleep with her?

: 1884

01:03:14,415 --> 01:03:16,305

Milo: That's the way I was taking it.

: 1885

01:03:16,515 --> 01:03:17,145

I'm like,

: 1886

01:03:17,985 --> 01:03:19,095

I, it was definitely

: 1887

01:03:19,395 --> 01:03:19,785

implied.

: 1888

01:03:19,935 --> 01:03:20,415

Katie: it,

: 1889

01:03:20,415 --> 01:03:20,685

Milo: Yeah.

: 1890

01:03:20,715 --> 01:03:21,795

'cause, 'cause, yes.

: 1891

01:03:22,185 --> 01:03:25,905

So once they dump her in the back

of the car, she wakes up for a

: 1892

01:03:25,905 --> 01:03:30,165

second, she looks at him and Jake's

like, what, who, who are you?

: 1893

01:03:30,165 --> 01:03:32,655

And Jake's like, he's me and I'm you.

: 1894

01:03:32,775 --> 01:03:33,555

He's me.

: 1895

01:03:34,095 --> 01:03:35,805

And she's like, okay, that's good.

: 1896

01:03:35,805 --> 01:03:36,675

And passes back out.

: 1897

01:03:36,675 --> 01:03:37,365

And he is like, yeah.

: 1898

01:03:37,665 --> 01:03:40,625

Because even, even you know, the

geek is kind of like, are you sure?

: 1899

01:03:40,685 --> 01:03:42,485

And Jake's like, yeah, that's good.

: 1900

01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:45,755

I, I, I've, I've got a

new girl that I like now.

: 1901

01:03:45,755 --> 01:03:47,225

So do whatever you want with this one.

: 1902

01:03:47,985 --> 01:03:49,655

Katie: She's used up, I've had her before.

: 1903

01:03:49,685 --> 01:03:50,075

Milo: Yeah.

: 1904

01:03:50,195 --> 01:03:50,465

Yeah.

: 1905

01:03:51,005 --> 01:03:51,905

I have less interest.

: 1906

01:03:52,070 --> 01:03:53,990

Jamie Fenderson: sick of all

her partying and stuff, and

: 1907

01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:56,090

maybe he wants a girl who's like

: 1908

01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,170

a little

: 1909

01:03:57,170 --> 01:03:57,410

more

: 1910

01:03:57,410 --> 01:03:58,040

stable

: 1911

01:03:58,325 --> 01:03:58,715

Milo: Yeah.

: 1912

01:03:58,940 --> 01:03:59,600

Jamie Fenderson: nicer.

: 1913

01:04:00,275 --> 01:04:01,805

Milo: And everybody knows if she's a,

: 1914

01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:03,580

Katie: and care about.

: 1915

01:04:03,580 --> 01:04:05,590

That's, you know,

: 1916

01:04:05,710 --> 01:04:07,150

Jamie Fenderson: Maybe he's maturing.

: 1917

01:04:07,450 --> 01:04:07,750

yeah.

: 1918

01:04:07,945 --> 01:04:08,185

Milo: yeah.

: 1919

01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:09,660

Jamie Fenderson: getting, he's maturing as

: 1920

01:04:09,660 --> 01:04:10,020

a guy.

: 1921

01:04:10,965 --> 01:04:11,205

Milo: Yeah.

: 1922

01:04:11,205 --> 01:04:14,195

It's very mature to ditch your

drunk girlfriend in a car with

: 1923

01:04:14,195 --> 01:04:17,075

some geek implying that the

geek can have sex with her.

: 1924

01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:18,470

Jamie Fenderson: He's

: 1925

01:04:18,605 --> 01:04:21,125

Milo: Do do whatever you want,

kid it, it doesn't matter to me.

: 1926

01:04:21,125 --> 01:04:23,075

Mm-hmm.

: 1927

01:04:23,315 --> 01:04:26,315

Katie: you know, he and square man.

: 1928

01:04:27,305 --> 01:04:31,535

also, did you guys notice that when

they're putting, it takes two of them,

: 1929

01:04:31,535 --> 01:04:35,971

they, they're collaborating on this

kidnapping extravaganza, putting her

: 1930

01:04:35,971 --> 01:04:40,051

in the car with another pack of beer.

: 1931

01:04:40,256 --> 01:04:40,476

Jamie Fenderson: Oh.

: 1932

01:04:40,681 --> 01:04:41,161

Katie: This is the

: 1933

01:04:41,311 --> 01:04:42,031

Milo: He grabs it.

: 1934

01:04:42,031 --> 01:04:42,391

Yeah.

: 1935

01:04:43,021 --> 01:04:45,181

Katie: and he is like,

here's some roadies for you.

: 1936

01:04:47,911 --> 01:04:49,441

And she continues to drink that.

: 1937

01:04:49,481 --> 01:04:52,421

Was he doing that on purpose

to maintain her level of

: 1938

01:04:52,916 --> 01:04:53,876

Milo: I think so.

: 1939

01:04:53,876 --> 01:04:56,486

It is like, you don't want

her, like it was again implied.

: 1940

01:04:56,486 --> 01:04:57,536

You don't want her waking up.

: 1941

01:04:57,536 --> 01:04:59,456

So, just, you know, too much.

: 1942

01:04:59,516 --> 01:05:00,896

So just keep feeding her beers.

: 1943

01:05:00,896 --> 01:05:03,626

Have a few for yourself and it's all good.

: 1944

01:05:03,836 --> 01:05:06,446

And drive the car that you

really barely know how to drive

: 1945

01:05:06,446 --> 01:05:07,916

without your driver's license.

: 1946

01:05:08,456 --> 01:05:09,866

Yeah, it's all good.

: 1947

01:05:10,256 --> 01:05:11,216

Jamie Fenderson: Hey, but as long as you

: 1948

01:05:11,216 --> 01:05:12,446

don't drop those F

: 1949

01:05:12,446 --> 01:05:13,016

bombs,

: 1950

01:05:13,256 --> 01:05:13,706

Milo: Yeah.

: 1951

01:05:13,706 --> 01:05:14,936

Don't drop any f pump

: 1952

01:05:15,221 --> 01:05:16,811

Katie: The, again, again, you guys.

: 1953

01:05:16,811 --> 01:05:17,081

Yes.

: 1954

01:05:17,081 --> 01:05:18,491

This is a PG rated movie.

: 1955

01:05:18,611 --> 01:05:18,911

It is

: 1956

01:05:18,956 --> 01:05:20,546

Jamie Fenderson: take your kids to see it.

: 1957

01:05:20,996 --> 01:05:22,346

Underage drinking,

: 1958

01:05:22,826 --> 01:05:23,876

Milo: fun for the whole family.

: 1959

01:05:24,326 --> 01:05:24,656

Yeah.

: 1960

01:05:26,246 --> 01:05:26,486

Jamie Fenderson: but they

: 1961

01:05:26,486 --> 01:05:27,386

don't have, they only have

: 1962

01:05:27,386 --> 01:05:27,866

one F

: 1963

01:05:27,866 --> 01:05:28,226

bomb.

: 1964

01:05:28,226 --> 01:05:28,406

It's

: 1965

01:05:28,561 --> 01:05:28,851

Milo: Yeah.

: 1966

01:05:29,315 --> 01:05:30,455

Katie: but he needs proof of this.

: 1967

01:05:30,455 --> 01:05:36,995

So he goes to his friends and asks if

they have film in the camera, so eighties.

: 1968

01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:40,160

Milo: Again, very inappropriate.

: 1969

01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:42,680

Hey, look, I got this drunk girl.

: 1970

01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:44,150

Let's take my picture with her.

: 1971

01:05:44,450 --> 01:05:44,690

Yeah,

: 1972

01:05:45,575 --> 01:05:48,640

Katie: And then they assume that

they've already slept together and

: 1973

01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,975

they're like, two in one night.

: 1974

01:05:50,975 --> 01:05:53,315

You're a legend.

: 1975

01:05:53,848 --> 01:05:56,608

This like 11-year-old looking boy,

: 1976

01:05:57,073 --> 01:05:57,553

Milo: yeah.

: 1977

01:05:58,243 --> 01:05:59,383

He's such a stud.

: 1978

01:05:59,503 --> 01:06:00,463

Such a stud.

: 1979

01:06:00,733 --> 01:06:02,083

No longer the geek.

: 1980

01:06:02,383 --> 01:06:03,313

He's the stud.

: 1981

01:06:03,508 --> 01:06:03,838

Jamie Fenderson: geek.

: 1982

01:06:03,838 --> 01:06:04,078

He's

: 1983

01:06:04,183 --> 01:06:04,663

Milo: Yeah.

: 1984

01:06:05,383 --> 01:06:06,013

That's why.

: 1985

01:06:06,073 --> 01:06:06,858

That's why he is.

: 1986

01:06:07,615 --> 01:06:10,785

Katie: There's a few other really

inappropriate things that I wanted to I'm

: 1987

01:06:10,785 --> 01:06:14,345

sure that you, that you caught one is.

: 1988

01:06:14,585 --> 01:06:20,855

on more than one occasion, they

use the F word that rhymes with bag

: 1989

01:06:21,785 --> 01:06:21,965

Jamie Fenderson: Oh

: 1990

01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:23,090

Milo: Oh.

: 1991

01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:23,540

yeah.

: 1992

01:06:24,305 --> 01:06:25,955

Katie: multiple times, like as an insult.

: 1993

01:06:25,985 --> 01:06:31,855

Do you, I seriously do remember that word

being used as lame, like to mean lame.

: 1994

01:06:32,980 --> 01:06:34,450

Milo: I remember that

from my youth as well.

: 1995

01:06:34,450 --> 01:06:39,580

Like we didn't throw it around as

Yeah, it was, it was to the level of

: 1996

01:06:39,580 --> 01:06:44,230

calling somebody lame or you know, a

geek or a loser, you know, like you

: 1997

01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:46,240

would say it to your friends like, oh,

: 1998

01:06:46,510 --> 01:06:46,960

you know,

: 1999

01:06:47,260 --> 01:06:47,680

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 2000

01:06:48,279 --> 01:06:48,850

Milo: kinda stuff.

: 2001

01:06:48,850 --> 01:06:54,040

Like we it, back then, it wasn't

necessarily like a hard insult.

: 2002

01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,870

It was a kind of a soft insult.

: 2003

01:06:56,815 --> 01:07:01,345

Katie: But it's we're so far, it's, isn't

it funny how once it's removed from your

: 2004

01:07:01,345 --> 01:07:04,045

vernacular, it stands out so much when

: 2005

01:07:04,050 --> 01:07:04,340

Jamie Fenderson: Okay.

: 2006

01:07:04,435 --> 01:07:04,705

Katie: hear

: 2007

01:07:04,705 --> 01:07:05,365

it again?

: 2008

01:07:07,165 --> 01:07:07,855

That,

: 2009

01:07:10,225 --> 01:07:16,105

again, always all white people in

these movies, Samantha is talking

: 2010

01:07:16,105 --> 01:07:20,245

about what would be her perfect, you

know her, she's complaining to her

: 2011

01:07:20,245 --> 01:07:23,395

friend that her family, she says, my

family fucking forgot my birthday.

: 2012

01:07:23,815 --> 01:07:25,765

And her friend was like, well,

what did, what did you want?

: 2013

01:07:25,765 --> 01:07:28,685

A trans am in the driveway with

a bow around it or something.

: 2014

01:07:29,495 --> 01:07:35,225

then she's like talking about her perfect

birthday, about like a, a cute guy in a

: 2015

01:07:35,225 --> 01:07:38,255

Trans Am or something, or and a black one.

: 2016

01:07:38,975 --> 01:07:43,385

And her friend goes, A black guy like.

: 2017

01:07:44,315 --> 01:07:51,154

as if that so shocked that she would

actually want to like date a black boy.

: 2018

01:07:51,365 --> 01:07:53,135

And she was like, God, no.

: 2019

01:07:53,195 --> 01:07:57,185

The TransAm a pink boy do.

: 2020

01:07:57,185 --> 01:07:58,595

Do you remember her saying that?

: 2021

01:07:58,975 --> 01:07:59,930

Milo: I don't remember that.

: 2022

01:07:59,930 --> 01:08:01,580

That must, I must have missed that one.

: 2023

01:08:01,580 --> 01:08:02,060

Yeah.

: 2024

01:08:02,180 --> 01:08:02,779

Oh, wow.

: 2025

01:08:02,779 --> 01:08:03,470

That's funny.

: 2026

01:08:04,670 --> 01:08:05,029

Yeah.

: 2027

01:08:05,045 --> 01:08:05,375

Katie: school

: 2028

01:08:05,375 --> 01:08:05,825

hallway.

: 2029

01:08:05,825 --> 01:08:07,715

And I was like, oh my God.

: 2030

01:08:07,810 --> 01:08:08,500

Milo: Yeah,

: 2031

01:08:08,605 --> 01:08:09,895

Jamie Fenderson: even find a black kid

: 2032

01:08:09,895 --> 01:08:10,375

anyway?

: 2033

01:08:10,404 --> 01:08:10,675

'cause

: 2034

01:08:10,779 --> 01:08:11,080

Milo: Yeah.

: 2035

01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,070

Not in that school.

: 2036

01:08:12,265 --> 01:08:13,140

Jamie Fenderson: suburbs that,

: 2037

01:08:13,535 --> 01:08:14,355

Milo: Not in that school.

: 2038

01:08:14,425 --> 01:08:16,345

Katie: that's why her

friend was so shocked.

: 2039

01:08:16,395 --> 01:08:18,585

There aren't any black people in within

: 2040

01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:19,020

Jamie Fenderson: Are you,

: 2041

01:08:19,095 --> 01:08:19,245

Katie: of

: 2042

01:08:19,380 --> 01:08:19,680

Milo: Yeah.

: 2043

01:08:19,845 --> 01:08:21,165

Jamie Fenderson: you,

gonna go up to the south

: 2044

01:08:21,194 --> 01:08:21,615

side?

: 2045

01:08:21,615 --> 01:08:22,335

Like where are you

: 2046

01:08:22,335 --> 01:08:22,515

gonna

: 2047

01:08:22,515 --> 01:08:23,024

go?

: 2048

01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:23,760

Milo: Yeah.

: 2049

01:08:24,045 --> 01:08:24,705

Katie: Oh my God.

: 2050

01:08:24,825 --> 01:08:28,245

But then she said, no,

a black car, a pink boy.

: 2051

01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:29,310

Milo: Hmm.

: 2052

01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:32,490

To make nice and white, pink

: 2053

01:08:33,569 --> 01:08:34,740

kind of pinkish, sharp

: 2054

01:08:34,875 --> 01:08:35,595

Katie: pink or I don't

: 2055

01:08:35,790 --> 01:08:36,059

Milo: pink.

: 2056

01:08:36,059 --> 01:08:36,899

Pale skin.

: 2057

01:08:37,125 --> 01:08:38,354

Katie: up the boy in the car.

: 2058

01:08:38,715 --> 01:08:39,165

I don't

: 2059

01:08:39,165 --> 01:08:39,404

know.

: 2060

01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:41,220

Milo: Okay.

: 2061

01:08:41,475 --> 01:08:41,684

Katie: T

: 2062

01:08:41,684 --> 01:08:42,434

reference.

: 2063

01:08:43,830 --> 01:08:44,040

Milo: Oh,

: 2064

01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:45,000

what was that?

: 2065

01:08:45,135 --> 01:08:46,305

Katie: is: 1984

: 2066

01:08:46,559 --> 01:08:47,010

Milo: Yeah.

: 2067

01:08:47,250 --> 01:08:47,880

Jamie Fenderson: the fool.

: 2068

01:08:48,104 --> 01:08:48,225

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 2069

01:08:48,495 --> 01:08:51,285

So Rocky, I don't know,

actually the eight.

: 2070

01:08:51,285 --> 01:08:51,915

So the 18.

: 2071

01:08:52,050 --> 01:08:52,559

Milo: 18.

: 2072

01:08:52,575 --> 01:08:53,925

Katie: the 18 would be on

: 2073

01:08:54,029 --> 01:08:54,600

Jamie Fenderson: A team.

: 2074

01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:55,050

Rocky.

: 2075

01:08:55,050 --> 01:08:56,350

Rocky Rocky three.

: 2076

01:08:56,350 --> 01:08:57,309

would've been out,

: 2077

01:08:57,535 --> 01:08:58,135

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 2078

01:08:58,154 --> 01:08:58,675

Jamie Fenderson: 84.

: 2079

01:08:58,990 --> 01:09:00,190

I think maybe even his

: 2080

01:09:00,190 --> 01:09:01,240

serial was out by

: 2081

01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:01,600

then.

: 2082

01:09:02,380 --> 01:09:02,680

Milo: Hmm.

: 2083

01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:02,979

Jamie Fenderson: T.

: 2084

01:09:02,979 --> 01:09:03,609

Serial,

: 2085

01:09:03,715 --> 01:09:04,165

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 2086

01:09:04,330 --> 01:09:04,990

Jamie Fenderson: that was kind of

: 2087

01:09:04,990 --> 01:09:05,470

big

: 2088

01:09:05,770 --> 01:09:05,950

Milo: Yeah.

: 2089

01:09:05,950 --> 01:09:07,149

He was quite popular then.

: 2090

01:09:07,555 --> 01:09:09,115

Katie: Yeah, he's wild.

: 2091

01:09:09,595 --> 01:09:11,126

Milo: Did you, so here's a question.

: 2092

01:09:11,426 --> 01:09:13,196

So if, unless I miss something.

: 2093

01:09:13,196 --> 01:09:17,935

So, you know, when the, when Jake

goes to her house to find her and

: 2094

01:09:18,006 --> 01:09:22,836

long Duck dong answers the door,

he is got a black eye and he starts

: 2095

01:09:22,836 --> 01:09:26,015

freaking out like Jake had hit him.

: 2096

01:09:26,046 --> 01:09:29,225

And they say, there's a conversation where

he is like, are you gonna hit me again?

: 2097

01:09:29,225 --> 01:09:29,886

Or something like that.

: 2098

01:09:30,306 --> 01:09:31,446

' But there's no scene.

: 2099

01:09:31,566 --> 01:09:31,926

Katie: me or

: 2100

01:09:32,015 --> 01:09:33,876

Milo: Yeah, you beat me,

but there's no scene.

: 2101

01:09:33,876 --> 01:09:37,475

So they obviously cut a scene outta

the film at some point in time

: 2102

01:09:38,106 --> 01:09:41,746

where Jake beats up long duck dong.

: 2103

01:09:42,706 --> 01:09:43,366

Katie: A hundred percent.

: 2104

01:09:43,366 --> 01:09:44,656

I actually rewound it Milo.

: 2105

01:09:44,656 --> 01:09:46,306

'cause I'm like, wait,

did I miss something?

: 2106

01:09:46,725 --> 01:09:47,145

Yeah.

: 2107

01:09:47,356 --> 01:09:48,916

Milo: So it must, I'm guessing

it must have happened at the

: 2108

01:09:48,916 --> 01:09:50,656

party maybe or something.

: 2109

01:09:50,866 --> 01:09:54,286

But, so Jake also was a dick for, besides.

: 2110

01:09:55,186 --> 01:09:56,356

Pimping out his girl.

: 2111

01:09:56,836 --> 01:10:01,586

He also beats up the Asian

foreign exchange student.

: 2112

01:10:02,101 --> 01:10:02,391

Katie: Yeah.

: 2113

01:10:02,426 --> 01:10:02,966

For no reason.

: 2114

01:10:02,966 --> 01:10:03,866

What did he do?

: 2115

01:10:04,796 --> 01:10:06,326

Milo: I don't, he might have

done something obnoxious,

: 2116

01:10:06,326 --> 01:10:07,346

but Yeah, that's the thing.

: 2117

01:10:07,346 --> 01:10:09,626

I want that, I wanna find

out what that cut scene is.

: 2118

01:10:09,836 --> 01:10:10,286

Jamie Fenderson: crime.

: 2119

01:10:10,556 --> 01:10:10,976

Milo: Yeah.

: 2120

01:10:11,246 --> 01:10:11,786

Katie: Yeah.

: 2121

01:10:11,846 --> 01:10:12,236

Yeah.

: 2122

01:10:12,596 --> 01:10:12,836

You are

: 2123

01:10:12,836 --> 01:10:13,646

right Milo.

: 2124

01:10:14,196 --> 01:10:16,716

But I gotta say dreamy.

: 2125

01:10:16,716 --> 01:10:16,956

This is Jake?

: 2126

01:10:17,496 --> 01:10:18,006

Milo: Jake?

: 2127

01:10:18,846 --> 01:10:19,296

Hmm?

: 2128

01:10:19,986 --> 01:10:21,306

Katie: Did you guys not think so?

: 2129

01:10:21,366 --> 01:10:21,936

Milo: No,

: 2130

01:10:21,966 --> 01:10:22,086

Katie: was?

: 2131

01:10:22,086 --> 01:10:22,476

Like,

: 2132

01:10:22,611 --> 01:10:25,161

Jamie Fenderson: In fact, that's

why they chose him, because actually

: 2133

01:10:25,161 --> 01:10:29,241

I guess he was so, shy in the

audition and they were like, we

: 2134

01:10:29,241 --> 01:10:30,681

don't know if this guy's gonna work.

: 2135

01:10:30,681 --> 01:10:32,661

but they were all like, ah,

this guy's dreamy though.

: 2136

01:10:32,661 --> 01:10:34,281

We gotta work with this guy somehow.

: 2137

01:10:34,646 --> 01:10:34,936

Yeah.

: 2138

01:10:35,076 --> 01:10:36,996

Katie: so, but he's so pretty

: 2139

01:10:37,101 --> 01:10:37,161

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 2140

01:10:38,376 --> 01:10:38,781

Milo: I guess.

: 2141

01:10:38,916 --> 01:10:39,096

Katie: he

: 2142

01:10:39,096 --> 01:10:41,586

really, he really, I mean, he, he, yeah.

: 2143

01:10:41,586 --> 01:10:44,766

Jake from, from, Mm-hmm.

: 2144

01:10:45,006 --> 01:10:45,096

Mm-hmm.

: 2145

01:10:45,261 --> 01:10:45,411

Jamie Fenderson: him.

: 2146

01:10:45,411 --> 01:10:50,571

If I were a 16-year-old redhead in a

suburban Chicago school, I'd be like damn.

: 2147

01:10:51,396 --> 01:10:53,256

Katie: like the perfect eighties rich kid.

: 2148

01:10:54,136 --> 01:10:55,876

This movie also checks all the boxes.

: 2149

01:10:55,876 --> 01:10:57,286

There's a dance

: 2150

01:10:57,736 --> 01:10:58,996

that they go to, there's a

: 2151

01:10:58,996 --> 01:11:00,856

party at the Rich kid's house.

: 2152

01:11:01,126 --> 01:11:06,396

There's nerds and jocks That know, so

I don't know why that's like a trope

: 2153

01:11:06,396 --> 01:11:09,816

in eighties movies, but they seem

to always have beef with each other.

: 2154

01:11:10,806 --> 01:11:11,226

I don't,

: 2155

01:11:11,451 --> 01:11:12,651

Milo: That was real.

: 2156

01:11:12,651 --> 01:11:15,681

I remember my high school,

the nerds and jocks did not,

: 2157

01:11:16,101 --> 01:11:16,731

Jamie Fenderson: Yep.

: 2158

01:11:16,791 --> 01:11:17,991

Milo: there was a separation.

: 2159

01:11:18,531 --> 01:11:18,891

Yeah.

: 2160

01:11:19,071 --> 01:11:20,331

Katie: because like in real,

: 2161

01:11:20,931 --> 01:11:21,561

Milo: Oh, real life.

: 2162

01:11:21,561 --> 01:11:22,161

It's real.

: 2163

01:11:22,191 --> 01:11:22,491

Katie: real.

: 2164

01:11:22,491 --> 01:11:29,121

life, like it seems like would you're

not enough for me to even care about.

: 2165

01:11:29,121 --> 01:11:30,441

That seems like how they would

: 2166

01:11:31,371 --> 01:11:32,901

Milo: You must have went to a nice school.

: 2167

01:11:33,771 --> 01:11:36,651

Jamie Fenderson: got wealthy

like working for tech companies,

: 2168

01:11:36,651 --> 01:11:37,701

and the jocks are like,

: 2169

01:11:38,571 --> 01:11:38,961

I don't know,

: 2170

01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:39,321

selling

: 2171

01:11:39,321 --> 01:11:39,981

insurance.

: 2172

01:11:40,076 --> 01:11:40,366

Milo: Yeah.

: 2173

01:11:40,461 --> 01:11:41,031

Jamie Fenderson: won out in The,

: 2174

01:11:41,031 --> 01:11:41,301

long

: 2175

01:11:41,301 --> 01:11:41,511

run.

: 2176

01:11:42,051 --> 01:11:42,441

Milo: True.

: 2177

01:11:42,666 --> 01:11:42,886

The,

: 2178

01:11:42,951 --> 01:11:43,221

Jamie Fenderson: got the

: 2179

01:11:43,376 --> 01:11:44,166

Milo: dirts did win.

: 2180

01:11:44,946 --> 01:11:45,366

Mm-hmm.

: 2181

01:11:45,561 --> 01:11:46,491

Jamie Fenderson: the geeks were right.

: 2182

01:11:47,661 --> 01:11:51,941

Katie: Well, whereas going with that, Milo

is like, Jake's friend, even when they're

: 2183

01:11:51,941 --> 01:11:56,021

in the gym, which was a weird scene,

they're like doing pull-ups or something.

: 2184

01:11:56,111 --> 01:12:02,531

And his friend, basically when he's

asked about, do you know Samantha Baker?

: 2185

01:12:02,921 --> 01:12:03,911

What do you think about her?

: 2186

01:12:03,971 --> 01:12:05,381

And his friend is like, I don't

: 2187

01:12:06,036 --> 01:12:06,326

Milo: Yeah.

: 2188

01:12:06,671 --> 01:12:09,701

Katie: that's, how they think

of people that aren't of their.

: 2189

01:12:10,526 --> 01:12:11,786

Caliber or whatever.

: 2190

01:12:11,786 --> 01:12:12,076

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 2191

01:12:12,116 --> 01:12:12,836

And their, and their C

: 2192

01:12:13,076 --> 01:12:14,126

clique or their

: 2193

01:12:14,186 --> 01:12:14,726

group.

: 2194

01:12:15,156 --> 01:12:15,446

Milo: Yeah.

: 2195

01:12:16,076 --> 01:12:20,306

Jamie Fenderson: I think you find a lot

less groups that way with today's kids.

: 2196

01:12:20,966 --> 01:12:24,226

But it's weird 'cause like my kids,

my son's a teenager and I'll drop

: 2197

01:12:24,226 --> 01:12:25,786

him off at school or whatever.

: 2198

01:12:25,786 --> 01:12:29,656

Or he is hanging out with friends

and I'm like, it used to be geeks.

: 2199

01:12:29,656 --> 01:12:32,896

The geeks like you see in this

movie, we're kind of a subset

: 2200

01:12:32,956 --> 01:12:37,246

of, of the kids, but seems like

there's so many more of them now.

: 2201

01:12:37,816 --> 01:12:40,126

Like maybe they're the majority now.

: 2202

01:12:41,116 --> 01:12:42,166

It's a lot of weird

: 2203

01:12:43,156 --> 01:12:43,306

man.

: 2204

01:12:44,381 --> 01:12:44,961

Katie: That's a good

: 2205

01:12:44,961 --> 01:12:45,161

point.

: 2206

01:12:45,351 --> 01:12:45,841

there's

: 2207

01:12:45,946 --> 01:12:46,876

Jamie Fenderson: kids are weird.

: 2208

01:12:46,876 --> 01:12:48,166

Katie: sub genres.

: 2209

01:12:49,381 --> 01:12:49,741

Jamie Fenderson: Kids.

: 2210

01:12:49,861 --> 01:12:50,131

Kids

: 2211

01:12:50,216 --> 01:12:53,216

Milo: Kids have figured out, they're like,

wait a minute, if I'm a geek, I'm gonna be

: 2212

01:12:53,216 --> 01:12:55,106

rich and successful and get the hot girl.

: 2213

01:12:55,526 --> 01:12:59,246

Whereas if I'm a jock, I'm gonna spend the

rest of my life remembering that time in

: 2214

01:12:59,246 --> 01:13:03,416

high school when I, you know, threw the

football touchdown or what I, you know,

: 2215

01:13:04,451 --> 01:13:04,811

Katie: Peak in

: 2216

01:13:04,931 --> 01:13:05,261

Jamie Fenderson: you're gonna

: 2217

01:13:05,261 --> 01:13:05,441

be

: 2218

01:13:05,486 --> 01:13:06,776

Milo: long-term success.

: 2219

01:13:06,776 --> 01:13:07,736

They're thinking ahead.

: 2220

01:13:08,066 --> 01:13:09,201

Yeah, they're thinking ahead.

: 2221

01:13:10,151 --> 01:13:10,991

Jamie Fenderson: You're gonna be Uncle

: 2222

01:13:10,991 --> 01:13:11,951

Rico or, or

: 2223

01:13:12,001 --> 01:13:12,331

Milo: Oh yeah,

: 2224

01:13:12,436 --> 01:13:12,886

Jamie Fenderson: Bundy

: 2225

01:13:14,761 --> 01:13:15,151

Milo: exactly.

: 2226

01:13:15,151 --> 01:13:16,201

They don't wanna be elk Rico.

: 2227

01:13:16,516 --> 01:13:17,716

Katie: exactly.

: 2228

01:13:17,866 --> 01:13:18,086

Milo: Yep.

: 2229

01:13:18,136 --> 01:13:19,126

Jamie Fenderson: selling shoes.

: 2230

01:13:19,246 --> 01:13:20,506

Remember that time you threw a

: 2231

01:13:20,506 --> 01:13:21,346

touchdown in high

: 2232

01:13:21,346 --> 01:13:21,976

school

: 2233

01:13:22,186 --> 01:13:22,576

selling

: 2234

01:13:22,746 --> 01:13:23,166

Milo: Mm-hmm.

: 2235

01:13:24,136 --> 01:13:24,946

Jamie Fenderson: jocks, you lose,

: 2236

01:13:25,066 --> 01:13:25,286

Milo: Yep.

: 2237

01:13:26,446 --> 01:13:27,076

Jamie Fenderson: you lose.

: 2238

01:13:28,471 --> 01:13:31,526

Katie: There's a few other people

that I wanted to point out.

: 2239

01:13:31,706 --> 01:13:32,756

I was looking for it.

: 2240

01:13:32,756 --> 01:13:39,036

The reverend I did see, so in the

wedding scene when Jenny, she's like,

: 2241

01:13:39,246 --> 01:13:42,906

needs to sit down in the pew 'cause

she's so out of it on muscle relaxer.

: 2242

01:13:42,906 --> 01:13:44,706

She's like, I just need to

sit and rest for a minute.

: 2243

01:13:45,036 --> 01:13:47,766

She sits next to Agnes Belushi.

: 2244

01:13:47,856 --> 01:13:49,776

Who is that actress in,

: 2245

01:13:49,896 --> 01:13:50,116

Milo: Oh

: 2246

01:13:50,196 --> 01:13:50,826

Katie: next to her?

: 2247

01:13:50,886 --> 01:13:51,186

Is

: 2248

01:13:51,186 --> 01:13:52,626

John and James

: 2249

01:13:54,081 --> 01:13:54,471

Milo: wow.

: 2250

01:13:54,681 --> 01:13:56,481

So they got her little gig in the film

: 2251

01:13:57,031 --> 01:14:01,021

Katie: The, the priest or the

reverend is played by Bill Murray's

: 2252

01:14:01,021 --> 01:14:03,901

brother Brian Doyle Murray.

: 2253

01:14:04,741 --> 01:14:05,101

thought that was

: 2254

01:14:05,281 --> 01:14:08,131

Milo: the less famous Murray,

but he's still in a lot of stuff.

: 2255

01:14:08,131 --> 01:14:09,031

Brian Doyle Murphy.

: 2256

01:14:09,031 --> 01:14:13,031

If you look at he's shows up in a

lot of films in supporting roles.

: 2257

01:14:13,031 --> 01:14:13,061

I.

: 2258

01:14:13,706 --> 01:14:14,066

Jamie Fenderson: page

: 2259

01:14:14,066 --> 01:14:15,176

is a mile long.

: 2260

01:14:15,266 --> 01:14:15,476

He,

: 2261

01:14:15,476 --> 01:14:15,896

he's in

: 2262

01:14:16,196 --> 01:14:16,466

Milo: Yeah,

: 2263

01:14:16,646 --> 01:14:16,976

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah,

: 2264

01:14:16,976 --> 01:14:18,296

he's in so many things.

: 2265

01:14:18,416 --> 01:14:19,706

You remember Groundhog Day?

: 2266

01:14:19,706 --> 01:14:21,206

He was like, the, the mayor.

: 2267

01:14:21,881 --> 01:14:22,121

Katie: Well,

: 2268

01:14:22,286 --> 01:14:22,706

Jamie Fenderson: he's,

: 2269

01:14:23,111 --> 01:14:23,561

Katie: like,

: 2270

01:14:23,756 --> 01:14:26,436

Milo: of course he's gonna, Bill's

like, get my brother in here.

: 2271

01:14:26,586 --> 01:14:26,856

Jamie Fenderson: many

: 2272

01:14:26,856 --> 01:14:27,546

things.

: 2273

01:14:27,786 --> 01:14:28,026

Milo: Yeah.

: 2274

01:14:28,491 --> 01:14:28,731

Katie: Yeah.

: 2275

01:14:28,731 --> 01:14:31,611

I guess that track, I mean,

that tracks also Jamie Gertz.

: 2276

01:14:31,611 --> 01:14:32,601

Did you guys see her?

: 2277

01:14:32,856 --> 01:14:34,236

Jamie Fenderson: Oh yeah.

: 2278

01:14:35,226 --> 01:14:39,216

That, that's like she just had a little

cameo, kind of a little role, but I,

: 2279

01:14:39,221 --> 01:14:42,696

I was so, I was surprised to see, did

it, 'cause I lo, I love Jamie Gertz.

: 2280

01:14:43,306 --> 01:14:47,176

I think she's kind of the underrated

kind of movie dream girl of the eighties.

: 2281

01:14:47,401 --> 01:14:47,941

Katie: Same.

: 2282

01:14:48,076 --> 01:14:50,716

Jamie Fenderson: so it was

cool to see her in there.

: 2283

01:14:50,716 --> 01:14:51,886

I'm, I'm a big fan.

: 2284

01:14:53,371 --> 01:14:54,181

Katie: I am too.

: 2285

01:14:54,961 --> 01:14:59,491

Now we already covered Ferris Bueller's

day off, and so we were talking about

: 2286

01:14:59,731 --> 01:15:03,931

the, there was meaning behind all of

the license plates in Ferris Bueller's

: 2287

01:15:03,931 --> 01:15:07,801

Day off, and that seems to be a thing

that John Hughes does well, this being

: 2288

01:15:07,801 --> 01:15:09,841

his first movie that he directed.

: 2289

01:15:10,291 --> 01:15:11,461

You guys see that?

: 2290

01:15:11,461 --> 01:15:15,745

So, Jake's car, which was a pretty

sweet car, license plate was two

: 2291

01:15:15,745 --> 01:15:22,021

one eight five zero, which is John

th,: 1950

: 2292

01:15:23,521 --> 01:15:26,551

And Molly Greenwald's birthday

is also February 18th.

: 2293

01:15:27,426 --> 01:15:27,646

Milo: Oh,

: 2294

01:15:27,796 --> 01:15:27,946

Jamie Fenderson: Oh,

: 2295

01:15:27,951 --> 01:15:28,151

wow.

: 2296

01:15:28,346 --> 01:15:28,766

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 2297

01:15:28,831 --> 01:15:29,221

Milo: didn't know that.

: 2298

01:15:30,691 --> 01:15:31,741

Katie: That house.

: 2299

01:15:33,301 --> 01:15:33,511

Yeah.

: 2300

01:15:33,511 --> 01:15:37,141

Again, I don't know, I think

I'm, again, this is my conflating

: 2301

01:15:37,231 --> 01:15:39,031

pretty in pink, I think with.

: 2302

01:15:39,721 --> 01:15:40,561

16 candles.

: 2303

01:15:40,561 --> 01:15:45,091

'cause I recalled them being poor

and they're definitely not poor.

: 2304

01:15:45,301 --> 01:15:47,221

That was a giant house.

: 2305

01:15:47,861 --> 01:15:49,211

I guess there's six bedrooms.

: 2306

01:15:49,211 --> 01:15:52,991

It was a brick house in

Northwestern Evanston, Illinois.

: 2307

01:15:53,711 --> 01:16:01,531

And in: 2006

quarter million dollars, which would be

: 2308

01:16:01,531 --> 01:16:04,291

like, I don't know, 3 million Probably.

: 2309

01:16:04,706 --> 01:16:05,206

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 2310

01:16:05,316 --> 01:16:05,476

Milo: Probably.

: 2311

01:16:05,671 --> 01:16:06,211

Yeah, actually.

: 2312

01:16:06,211 --> 01:16:06,871

Probably tripled.

: 2313

01:16:07,996 --> 01:16:08,926

Jamie Fenderson: I mean, it sounds like

: 2314

01:16:08,926 --> 01:16:09,526

a lot, but

: 2315

01:16:09,526 --> 01:16:10,426

these days it's

: 2316

01:16:10,606 --> 01:16:10,966

not a

: 2317

01:16:10,966 --> 01:16:11,326

lot.

: 2318

01:16:11,326 --> 01:16:11,536

But in,

: 2319

01:16:11,696 --> 01:16:11,986

Milo: Yeah.

: 2320

01:16:12,886 --> 01:16:13,966

Jamie Fenderson: it probably, it was.

: 2321

01:16:13,966 --> 01:16:14,476

It's a lot.

: 2322

01:16:15,091 --> 01:16:16,681

Katie: in a Chicago suburb.

: 2323

01:16:18,421 --> 01:16:18,691

Yeah.

: 2324

01:16:18,691 --> 01:16:21,571

That house probably would

cost about $3 million.

: 2325

01:16:21,841 --> 01:16:22,171

Milo: Yeah.

: 2326

01:16:22,216 --> 01:16:22,786

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah,

: 2327

01:16:23,491 --> 01:16:24,691

Milo: Yeah, those are expensive.

: 2328

01:16:25,381 --> 01:16:26,131

Katie: extreme.

: 2329

01:16:26,596 --> 01:16:28,696

Jamie Fenderson: But her

room wasn't in that house.

: 2330

01:16:29,446 --> 01:16:34,426

room, was it in like a part of the,

the gym that they were in, where

: 2331

01:16:34,426 --> 01:16:38,026

they filmed dances and stuff in this

school, which they tore down and.

: 2332

01:16:38,776 --> 01:16:42,706

Now it's a community college, but I

guess that high school that they did

: 2333

01:16:42,706 --> 01:16:44,506

it in had been closed for four years.

: 2334

01:16:44,506 --> 01:16:48,016

So they filmed it in there, but

her room was, was a set in there.

: 2335

01:16:48,166 --> 01:16:51,016

And I guess Molly Ringwald had

a lot of her own stuff from

: 2336

01:16:51,016 --> 01:16:53,536

her room in that fake room.

: 2337

01:16:53,806 --> 01:16:57,466

So you get a little, a little

inside into what Molly Ringwald,

: 2338

01:16:57,466 --> 01:17:00,256

the real Molly Greenwald's room

might've looked like 'cause she had

: 2339

01:17:00,256 --> 01:17:01,426

a lot of her own stuff in there.

: 2340

01:17:02,041 --> 01:17:02,281

Katie: Yeah.

: 2341

01:17:02,281 --> 01:17:06,251

And like her binder like, a lot of band

names and stuff that she was into on

: 2342

01:17:06,251 --> 01:17:08,050

her, written on her school binder and

: 2343

01:17:08,306 --> 01:17:08,606

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 2344

01:17:08,606 --> 01:17:13,106

And in fact, I guess she and Anthony

Michael Hall didn't get along at first.

: 2345

01:17:13,106 --> 01:17:17,726

So John Hughes sent them off to go buy

music together at the mall and they

: 2346

01:17:17,906 --> 01:17:20,096

ended up like liking the same music.

: 2347

01:17:20,336 --> 01:17:23,216

And one of the bands she had

written on there was this kind of

: 2348

01:17:23,216 --> 01:17:24,446

one of the bands that they liked.

: 2349

01:17:24,896 --> 01:17:26,425

So they kind of bonded over music.

: 2350

01:17:27,556 --> 01:17:32,351

Katie: which worked out 'cause they

were the only two that were underage.

: 2351

01:17:32,381 --> 01:17:32,591

So

: 2352

01:17:32,666 --> 01:17:33,356

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 2353

01:17:33,401 --> 01:17:34,181

Katie: this movie.

: 2354

01:17:34,556 --> 01:17:36,536

Let's see, I think it was in Skokie.

: 2355

01:17:36,566 --> 01:17:42,236

They were, you know, housed at this

hotel in Skokie on the weekends

: 2356

01:17:42,236 --> 01:17:48,126

everybody else that was of age went to

clubs and Molly Ringwald and Anthony

: 2357

01:17:48,126 --> 01:17:50,326

Michael Hall being 15 couldn't do that.

: 2358

01:17:50,536 --> 01:17:53,836

So I guess you know, after

they bonded at over music, they

: 2359

01:17:53,836 --> 01:17:56,776

crashed Bar Mitzvahs at the hotel,

: 2360

01:17:57,106 --> 01:17:57,396

Milo: Nice.

: 2361

01:17:58,711 --> 01:18:00,721

Hang out at the hotel, hit the pool.

: 2362

01:18:00,871 --> 01:18:01,050

Jamie Fenderson: like a

: 2363

01:18:01,141 --> 01:18:02,251

Milo: Go to the bar mitzvahs.

: 2364

01:18:02,401 --> 01:18:04,081

Jamie Fenderson: John Hughes, movie plot

: 2365

01:18:04,081 --> 01:18:04,501

line.

: 2366

01:18:04,591 --> 01:18:04,891

Like

: 2367

01:18:04,981 --> 01:18:05,550

Milo: does,

: 2368

01:18:05,771 --> 01:18:06,011

Katie: does.

: 2369

01:18:06,421 --> 01:18:09,541

Jamie Fenderson: 15-year-old kids who

can't go out 'cause everybody's an adult.

: 2370

01:18:09,541 --> 01:18:10,321

They go Crash bar

: 2371

01:18:10,351 --> 01:18:10,831

MVAs.

: 2372

01:18:11,041 --> 01:18:11,611

Then you could make a

: 2373

01:18:11,611 --> 01:18:11,851

John

: 2374

01:18:11,851 --> 01:18:12,451

Hughes movie

: 2375

01:18:12,631 --> 01:18:12,901

Milo: yeah.

: 2376

01:18:12,931 --> 01:18:14,911

Jamie Fenderson: That's the whole

premise of a John Hughes movie.

: 2377

01:18:15,696 --> 01:18:15,986

Yeah.

: 2378

01:18:16,861 --> 01:18:17,596

Katie: listeners, I would like

: 2379

01:18:17,596 --> 01:18:22,516

to point out that the reason I know that

is because I started reading the book

: 2380

01:18:22,516 --> 01:18:25,106

that I mentioned a couple episodes ago.

: 2381

01:18:25,881 --> 01:18:28,371

That I told you, I would give you

some tidbits from, you couldn't

: 2382

01:18:28,371 --> 01:18:32,391

ignore me if you tried the Brat

Pack, John Hughes and their impact

: 2383

01:18:32,391 --> 01:18:34,881

on a generation by Susanna Gora.

: 2384

01:18:35,151 --> 01:18:35,811

So yeah.

: 2385

01:18:36,111 --> 01:18:36,981

Fun, fun fact.

: 2386

01:18:37,701 --> 01:18:38,721

Jamie Fenderson: that

looks like a good one.

: 2387

01:18:39,037 --> 01:18:43,567

Katie: Did you guys see that Dan

note the embarrassing, like she's

: 2388

01:18:43,567 --> 01:18:44,947

writing, it's like asking questions.

: 2389

01:18:44,947 --> 01:18:45,727

Have you done it?

: 2390

01:18:45,967 --> 01:18:47,407

Who do you wanna do it with?

: 2391

01:18:47,407 --> 01:18:50,707

Like very, at the top it

says confidential, but

: 2392

01:18:50,707 --> 01:18:52,027

confidential is spelled wrong.

: 2393

01:18:52,537 --> 01:18:53,437

Milo: Oh, I didn't notice that.

: 2394

01:18:55,597 --> 01:18:56,257

That's awesome.

: 2395

01:18:57,337 --> 01:18:58,416

Katie: It is very typical too.

: 2396

01:18:58,477 --> 01:19:01,717

I don't know if that was like an accident

or if they purposefully did that.

: 2397

01:19:02,227 --> 01:19:03,007

Milo: Oh, that'd be funny.

: 2398

01:19:03,007 --> 01:19:03,307

Jamie Fenderson: way.

: 2399

01:19:03,307 --> 01:19:04,177

It's awesome.

: 2400

01:19:04,177 --> 01:19:04,357

Milo: Yeah.

: 2401

01:19:04,357 --> 01:19:04,837

Either way.

: 2402

01:19:04,837 --> 01:19:05,317

It's good.

: 2403

01:19:05,527 --> 01:19:05,767

' Jamie Fenderson: it.

: 2404

01:19:05,767 --> 01:19:06,372

It's so perfect.

: 2405

01:19:07,672 --> 01:19:08,032

Milo: Yeah.

: 2406

01:19:08,452 --> 01:19:12,442

I don't think note passing was a

thing in German schools, by the way.

: 2407

01:19:12,472 --> 01:19:14,422

'cause when we watched this,

my wife said something about

: 2408

01:19:14,422 --> 01:19:15,982

the note and she's like, what?

: 2409

01:19:16,072 --> 01:19:19,372

And I'm like, yeah, they're like writing

notes and passing notes in class.

: 2410

01:19:19,702 --> 01:19:21,592

And so she didn't get

what they were doing.

: 2411

01:19:21,592 --> 01:19:23,182

She was like, is that

like a quiz or something?

: 2412

01:19:23,182 --> 01:19:24,922

I'm like, no, they're not

gonna ask that on a quiz.

: 2413

01:19:24,922 --> 01:19:27,826

It's like she's passing

notes to her friend.

: 2414

01:19:28,636 --> 01:19:28,996

Yeah,

: 2415

01:19:29,371 --> 01:19:29,611

Katie: I mean,

: 2416

01:19:29,611 --> 01:19:31,081

it was a quiz, but like a friend

: 2417

01:19:31,425 --> 01:19:32,236

Milo: it was a friend quiz.

: 2418

01:19:32,236 --> 01:19:32,536

Yeah.

: 2419

01:19:32,731 --> 01:19:33,181

Katie: Yeah.

: 2420

01:19:33,226 --> 01:19:33,436

Milo: Yeah.

: 2421

01:19:33,436 --> 01:19:34,006

Jamie Fenderson: all kinds

: 2422

01:19:34,006 --> 01:19:34,726

of notes in

: 2423

01:19:34,726 --> 01:19:36,646

Milo: Oh, that was

totally a thing back then.

: 2424

01:19:36,766 --> 01:19:37,336

Jamie Fenderson: texted

: 2425

01:19:37,336 --> 01:19:37,846

back then.

: 2426

01:19:37,846 --> 01:19:38,026

You'd

: 2427

01:19:38,146 --> 01:19:38,476

Milo: Mm-hmm.

: 2428

01:19:39,406 --> 01:19:39,616

Jamie Fenderson: but

: 2429

01:19:39,616 --> 01:19:40,006

Milo: Yeah.

: 2430

01:19:40,006 --> 01:19:40,546

Jamie Fenderson: it in German

: 2431

01:19:40,546 --> 01:19:41,206

schools.

: 2432

01:19:41,446 --> 01:19:42,316

Milo: I guess not.

: 2433

01:19:42,456 --> 01:19:42,856

Katie: over there.

: 2434

01:19:43,276 --> 01:19:43,876

Milo: She didn't,

: 2435

01:19:44,326 --> 01:19:44,776

yeah.

: 2436

01:19:45,016 --> 01:19:45,556

Jamie Fenderson: nine.

: 2437

01:19:45,826 --> 01:19:48,916

Milo: You get smacked with

a ruler if you get caught.

: 2438

01:19:49,306 --> 01:19:50,986

She's passing a note in Germany.

: 2439

01:19:51,286 --> 01:19:52,636

Jamie Fenderson: Mercedes-Benz by

: 2440

01:19:52,636 --> 01:19:53,386

passing notes.

: 2441

01:19:53,566 --> 01:19:53,836

Milo: No.

: 2442

01:19:54,376 --> 01:19:56,175

You will study and you've learn.

: 2443

01:19:56,221 --> 01:19:57,751

Katie: serious civilization

: 2444

01:19:57,796 --> 01:19:58,126

Milo: Yeah.

: 2445

01:19:58,888 --> 01:20:02,098

I like how one of the questions

was like, have you ever had sex?

: 2446

01:20:02,518 --> 01:20:05,488

And one was, and it was kind of

like maybe or something like that.

: 2447

01:20:05,488 --> 01:20:06,238

Or how do you know?

: 2448

01:20:06,268 --> 01:20:06,928

How do you tell?

: 2449

01:20:07,288 --> 01:20:07,768

Or what

: 2450

01:20:07,963 --> 01:20:08,532

Katie: sort

: 2451

01:20:08,848 --> 01:20:09,958

Milo: sort of That's what it was.

: 2452

01:20:09,958 --> 01:20:10,228

Yeah,

: 2453

01:20:10,363 --> 01:20:10,693

Katie: or, I

: 2454

01:20:10,798 --> 01:20:10,858

Milo: of.

: 2455

01:20:10,993 --> 01:20:11,473

Katie: so.

: 2456

01:20:11,473 --> 01:20:12,043

I think,

: 2457

01:20:12,223 --> 01:20:12,958

Milo: I think so.

: 2458

01:20:13,138 --> 01:20:13,288

Yeah.

: 2459

01:20:13,288 --> 01:20:13,588

I think it was.

: 2460

01:20:13,588 --> 01:20:14,128

I think so.

: 2461

01:20:14,532 --> 01:20:20,493

Katie: that I feel like is such a

preteen, teen thing to be like, well,

: 2462

01:20:20,493 --> 01:20:23,344

I've done some stuff, but, you know, I,

: 2463

01:20:23,868 --> 01:20:25,008

Milo: It's like, is that Sack?

: 2464

01:20:25,683 --> 01:20:26,343

Katie: Yeah,

: 2465

01:20:26,448 --> 01:20:28,998

Milo: Yeah, that was pretty funny.

: 2466

01:20:30,063 --> 01:20:33,873

Katie: So I do very much like the, the

person that they cast as Jake Ryan.

: 2467

01:20:33,873 --> 01:20:38,913

However, in an alternate universe,

I would've loved this too.

: 2468

01:20:39,663 --> 01:20:43,353

You're never gonna guess in a million

years who was super close to getting it.

: 2469

01:20:43,353 --> 01:20:44,733

It was down to two people.

: 2470

01:20:45,943 --> 01:20:52,903

Our Michael Schofield or

shuffling and Vigo Mortenson.

: 2471

01:20:53,202 --> 01:20:54,463

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah,

: 2472

01:20:54,778 --> 01:20:55,348

Milo: that I,

: 2473

01:20:55,513 --> 01:20:56,563

Katie: Yeah,

: 2474

01:20:57,178 --> 01:20:58,018

Milo: is a stud.

: 2475

01:20:58,483 --> 01:21:00,343

Katie: I lo I adore.

: 2476

01:21:00,403 --> 01:21:00,733

Yeah.

: 2477

01:21:00,763 --> 01:21:03,913

I mean, and I, an exception

for me 'cause I'm not a blonde,

: 2478

01:21:04,228 --> 01:21:04,288

Milo: Hmm.

: 2479

01:21:04,333 --> 01:21:05,173

Katie: not into the blondes,

: 2480

01:21:05,173 --> 01:21:07,243

but dude, Vigo Mortenson.

: 2481

01:21:07,243 --> 01:21:07,303

Yeah.

: 2482

01:21:08,103 --> 01:21:08,393

Milo: Yeah.

: 2483

01:21:08,623 --> 01:21:12,913

Jamie Fenderson: Molly really

wanted him to to be the guy too.

: 2484

01:21:12,973 --> 01:21:13,663

'cause she was like

: 2485

01:21:13,663 --> 01:21:14,023

that.

: 2486

01:21:14,083 --> 01:21:14,773

That guy is

: 2487

01:21:14,773 --> 01:21:15,673

like, I like

: 2488

01:21:15,688 --> 01:21:17,308

Milo: She's like, if I had to choose,

: 2489

01:21:17,577 --> 01:21:18,478

I'd hit that.

: 2490

01:21:19,778 --> 01:21:20,068

Katie: Yeah.

: 2491

01:21:20,293 --> 01:21:22,183

I think the studio wanted Vigo too.

: 2492

01:21:22,183 --> 01:21:28,153

But John, know, he, he the hammer down

and he said, no, it's gonna be chuffing

: 2493

01:21:28,618 --> 01:21:29,338

Milo: Damn it, John.

: 2494

01:21:29,983 --> 01:21:30,373

Katie: Yeah.

: 2495

01:21:30,508 --> 01:21:35,698

Milo: I mean, I guess he has more of that

kind of high school jock, preppy look

: 2496

01:21:36,418 --> 01:21:38,008

versus Vigo.

: 2497

01:21:38,038 --> 01:21:38,488

Yeah.

: 2498

01:21:38,577 --> 01:21:42,298

I like he definitely has probably more

of the look of that kind of, yeah.

: 2499

01:21:42,327 --> 01:21:43,648

Drives a Porsche kind of thing,

: 2500

01:21:43,948 --> 01:21:45,058

whereas Vigo.

: 2501

01:21:45,103 --> 01:21:45,702

Katie: Vigo maybe

: 2502

01:21:45,702 --> 01:21:48,883

could have done like the, the

blonde, Ivy League look to

: 2503

01:21:49,153 --> 01:21:50,383

Milo: maybe, yeah.

: 2504

01:21:51,013 --> 01:21:51,463

Either way.

: 2505

01:21:51,478 --> 01:21:51,898

Katie: mad at,

: 2506

01:21:51,958 --> 01:21:54,148

I'm not mad at RJ Ryan here, so,

: 2507

01:21:54,168 --> 01:21:54,248

Milo: Hmm,

: 2508

01:21:54,313 --> 01:21:55,077

Katie: I, I, I would

: 2509

01:21:55,077 --> 01:21:56,518

like the alternate reality too.

: 2510

01:21:56,788 --> 01:22:01,188

Maybe he could have been in the sequel

because as we always talk about in

: 2511

01:22:01,188 --> 01:22:04,968

these eighties movies, there's always

talk of sequels or remakes or whatnot.

: 2512

01:22:05,628 --> 01:22:10,878

There was a potential sequel in

: 2005

: 2513

01:22:10,878 --> 01:22:12,588

was interested in doing it.

: 2514

01:22:12,813 --> 01:22:13,053

Milo: hmm,

: 2515

01:22:13,278 --> 01:22:13,728

Katie: It was gonna

: 2516

01:22:13,728 --> 01:22:15,498

be 32 candles.

: 2517

01:22:16,577 --> 01:22:16,968

You know.

: 2518

01:22:17,268 --> 01:22:17,748

doubling the

: 2519

01:22:17,808 --> 01:22:19,128

Jamie Fenderson: now it'd be more like

: 2520

01:22:20,043 --> 01:22:20,223

Milo: hmm.

: 2521

01:22:20,733 --> 01:22:22,353

50 something candles.

: 2522

01:22:22,353 --> 01:22:22,683

I don't know.

: 2523

01:22:23,073 --> 01:22:23,373

Average.

: 2524

01:22:23,373 --> 01:22:23,702

Yeah.

: 2525

01:22:24,198 --> 01:22:24,407

Katie: or,

: 2526

01:22:24,663 --> 01:22:25,443

Milo: candles.

: 2527

01:22:26,358 --> 01:22:26,568

Katie: no,

: 2528

01:22:26,688 --> 01:22:27,958

Jamie Fenderson: 6

: 2529

01:22:27,958 --> 01:22:30,498

6 67

: 2530

01:22:30,538 --> 01:22:30,827

Milo: it's,

: 2531

01:22:31,068 --> 01:22:31,308

Jamie Fenderson: like

: 2532

01:22:31,308 --> 01:22:32,388

67 and a half

: 2533

01:22:32,388 --> 01:22:32,928

candles.

: 2534

01:22:32,928 --> 01:22:33,288

Now you

: 2535

01:22:33,363 --> 01:22:34,532

Milo: it's not quite that many.

: 2536

01:22:35,238 --> 01:22:36,558

Jamie Fenderson: and, and people are like,

: 2537

01:22:36,827 --> 01:22:37,518

oh yeah,

: 2538

01:22:37,518 --> 01:22:37,738

Milo: No.

: 2539

01:22:37,788 --> 01:22:39,077

Jamie Fenderson: collect

social security now.

: 2540

01:22:39,077 --> 01:22:40,068

And it's a whole movie about

: 2541

01:22:40,068 --> 01:22:41,208

Molly Ringwald collecting

: 2542

01:22:41,208 --> 01:22:42,018

social security.

: 2543

01:22:42,123 --> 01:22:43,743

Milo: She's having her

birthday in the home.

: 2544

01:22:46,623 --> 01:22:47,403

Jake's gone.

: 2545

01:22:47,403 --> 01:22:50,702

There's a new guy in the old folks'

home that she's got a crush on.

: 2546

01:22:52,278 --> 01:22:52,548

Jamie Fenderson: Oh, it's Vigo.

: 2547

01:22:52,713 --> 01:22:54,153

Milo: Hey, V goes back.

: 2548

01:22:54,993 --> 01:22:55,353

Great.

: 2549

01:22:55,413 --> 01:22:55,983

I'd watch it.

: 2550

01:22:56,148 --> 01:22:56,657

Katie: it.

: 2551

01:22:57,018 --> 01:22:57,738

Start writing.

: 2552

01:22:57,993 --> 01:22:58,323

Milo: Yep.

: 2553

01:22:59,248 --> 01:23:01,498

Katie: We didn't talk about the

music and I wanted to bring him

: 2554

01:23:01,498 --> 01:23:06,648

up because he's a very frequent

collaborator with John Hughes.

: 2555

01:23:07,128 --> 01:23:09,168

The guy who did the music is Ira Newborn.

: 2556

01:23:09,568 --> 01:23:11,968

And we talked about him on the

Ferris Bueller's Day off episode

: 2557

01:23:11,968 --> 01:23:13,168

'cause he also did that music.

: 2558

01:23:13,498 --> 01:23:17,258

But weird Science Uncle Buck

Planes, trains and Auto Automobiles.

: 2559

01:23:17,258 --> 01:23:19,468

And also ACE Ventura and Mallrats

: 2560

01:23:19,988 --> 01:23:21,048

Milo: Oh, mall route even.

: 2561

01:23:21,348 --> 01:23:21,568

Wow.

: 2562

01:23:21,928 --> 01:23:22,407

Katie: Yeah.

: 2563

01:23:22,548 --> 01:23:22,628

Milo: Hmm.

: 2564

01:23:22,678 --> 01:23:23,098

Katie: Yeah.

: 2565

01:23:23,730 --> 01:23:24,090

Milo: Yeah.

: 2566

01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:29,950

I mean, again, like when you

think eighties and you think his

: 2567

01:23:29,950 --> 01:23:32,050

mo his film John Hughes films.

: 2568

01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:34,120

You think music as well, like

: 2569

01:23:34,375 --> 01:23:34,975

Katie: Mm-hmm.

: 2570

01:23:35,980 --> 01:23:38,800

Milo: every one of his films

has a soundtrack that goes

: 2571

01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,180

along with it perfectly.

: 2572

01:23:41,315 --> 01:23:41,835

Katie: A hundred percent.

: 2573

01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,785

Jamie Fenderson: it kind of

used to be that way with John

: 2574

01:23:44,785 --> 01:23:47,320

Hughes or Tim Burton or even

: 2575

01:23:47,450 --> 01:23:47,930

Milo: A lot of films.

: 2576

01:23:48,140 --> 01:23:51,500

Jamie Fenderson: the nineties guy

that, why can't I think of his name?

: 2577

01:23:52,190 --> 01:23:52,490

Pulp

: 2578

01:23:52,490 --> 01:23:53,120

Fiction.

: 2579

01:23:53,395 --> 01:23:54,115

Milo: Quentin Tarantino.

: 2580

01:23:54,815 --> 01:23:55,105

Yeah.

: 2581

01:23:55,165 --> 01:23:56,105

His films back then.

: 2582

01:23:56,210 --> 01:23:59,780

Jamie Fenderson: they, have, they get,

they find their style and they, then.

: 2583

01:23:59,780 --> 01:24:04,790

they find their musical score guy

and they find a cohort of actors

: 2584

01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:06,200

that they like to work with.

: 2585

01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:11,600

And that's kind of their little

world of their little film world.

: 2586

01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,970

I don't know, like I

don't watch many movies.

: 2587

01:24:13,970 --> 01:24:18,950

Is It still that way where directors

kind of have that thing or, I,

: 2588

01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:20,000

I think, I feel like that was.

: 2589

01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,110

a thing back then.

: 2590

01:24:21,405 --> 01:24:21,625

Katie: It

: 2591

01:24:21,650 --> 01:24:21,980

' Jamie Fenderson: cause

: 2592

01:24:22,165 --> 01:24:22,385

Katie: was.

: 2593

01:24:23,420 --> 01:24:27,410

Jamie Fenderson: John Hughes had his

Molly Ringwald and he had the people

: 2594

01:24:27,410 --> 01:24:32,840

who did, he had his style, the people

who did his music and the Michael

: 2595

01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,330

Anthony Hall that he had his group

: 2596

01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:36,980

just like Tim Burton did.

: 2597

01:24:36,980 --> 01:24:37,309

Right.

: 2598

01:24:37,309 --> 01:24:38,300

That's, this is my group.

: 2599

01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,870

I, I don't know if that's a thing

anymore and maybe it's because

: 2600

01:24:41,870 --> 01:24:46,070

studios kind of control everything

now instead of the actual directors.

: 2601

01:24:46,865 --> 01:24:47,915

Katie: it might be.

: 2602

01:24:48,605 --> 01:24:51,725

There was a, a really interesting

guest on the Daily Show

: 2603

01:24:51,725 --> 01:24:53,595

recently, her name is Nancy.

: 2604

01:24:53,595 --> 01:24:53,625

I.

: 2605

01:24:54,050 --> 01:24:58,881

She's like old World Hollywood, but

she's an Asian actress that somehow got

: 2606

01:24:58,881 --> 01:25:01,491

parts that weren't just like caricatures.

: 2607

01:25:01,671 --> 01:25:01,891

Jamie Fenderson: Mm.

: 2608

01:25:02,041 --> 01:25:03,721

Katie: We're talking like in the sixties.

: 2609

01:25:03,771 --> 01:25:08,391

And so she was talking about

how that time, the era where

: 2610

01:25:08,391 --> 01:25:10,011

the studios you were under.

: 2611

01:25:10,251 --> 01:25:12,621

And part of the reason that that

happened for her was because she

: 2612

01:25:12,621 --> 01:25:14,481

was under contract with a studio.

: 2613

01:25:14,481 --> 01:25:15,081

So she was,

: 2614

01:25:15,351 --> 01:25:15,571

Jamie Fenderson: Mm

: 2615

01:25:15,681 --> 01:25:15,951

Katie: to be

: 2616

01:25:15,951 --> 01:25:17,331

in, they had her contracted for

: 2617

01:25:17,331 --> 01:25:18,141

eight movies

: 2618

01:25:18,241 --> 01:25:18,461

Jamie Fenderson: mm.

: 2619

01:25:18,471 --> 01:25:18,591

Katie: or

: 2620

01:25:18,591 --> 01:25:19,131

whatever.

: 2621

01:25:19,131 --> 01:25:22,821

And so she said that was kind

of ending in the sixties.

: 2622

01:25:22,821 --> 01:25:25,131

And she said something really interesting

when they were talking about movies.

: 2623

01:25:25,131 --> 01:25:29,361

She said, everything kind of comes

back So I think that you saying

: 2624

01:25:29,361 --> 01:25:32,901

that Jamie made me realize, are

we, are we getting back to that?

: 2625

01:25:32,901 --> 01:25:37,431

Because when that ended, it ushered

in this whole independent movie

: 2626

01:25:37,641 --> 01:25:38,151

Jamie Fenderson: Mm.

: 2627

01:25:38,901 --> 01:25:39,321

Katie: you know,

: 2628

01:25:39,591 --> 01:25:41,511

really big in the nineties.

: 2629

01:25:41,511 --> 01:25:41,931

And then.

: 2630

01:25:41,931 --> 01:25:44,631

now we're kind of back to

just these like giant studio

: 2631

01:25:44,866 --> 01:25:45,286

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

: 2632

01:25:45,651 --> 01:25:46,761

Katie: So, I don't know, it just kind of

: 2633

01:25:46,761 --> 01:25:47,300

reminded me of

: 2634

01:25:47,486 --> 01:25:47,906

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

: 2635

01:25:48,165 --> 01:25:52,515

Katie: yeah, so of which though, a

lot of these movies that John Hughes

: 2636

01:25:52,515 --> 01:25:56,085

did in the eighties that I, that are

really good, were made for no money.

: 2637

01:25:56,260 --> 01:25:56,680

Jamie Fenderson: Mm-hmm.

: 2638

01:25:56,865 --> 01:25:58,410

Katie: was made for $6.5

: 2639

01:25:58,410 --> 01:26:02,715

million and it was nothing to

sneeze at the worldwide gross.

: 2640

01:26:02,715 --> 01:26:03,795

It was $23.6

: 2641

01:26:03,795 --> 01:26:09,305

million on such a small budget, which

was considered a modest hit at the time.

: 2642

01:26:09,705 --> 01:26:12,915

And you're right, Jamie,

it right behind Breakin, it

: 2643

01:26:13,075 --> 01:26:13,365

Jamie Fenderson: Yeah.

: 2644

01:26:13,785 --> 01:26:19,045

Katie: in 84, but it became a

big hit on BHS you guys, it's

: 2645

01:26:19,045 --> 01:26:22,405

a film that's sweet, massively

questionable, but also relatable.

: 2646

01:26:22,780 --> 01:26:23,070

Milo: Yeah.

: 2647

01:26:23,559 --> 01:26:23,770

Katie: All

: 2648

01:26:23,770 --> 01:26:27,130

the same and very much of its time.

: 2649

01:26:27,490 --> 01:26:27,640

You

: 2650

01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,020

know, whether you're team

: 2651

01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,360

Jake Ryan, or just here

for the eighties vibes.

: 2652

01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,630

I do hope you enjoyed

this trip back to: 1984

: 2653

01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,900

Jamie Milo, thank you

so much for joining me.

: 2654

01:26:37,900 --> 01:26:41,590

What are your closing

thoughts on 16 candles?

: 2655

01:26:42,515 --> 01:26:43,080

Milo: Go for it, Jamie.

: 2656

01:26:45,535 --> 01:26:49,095

Jamie Fenderson: I guess just a

movie that won't be made again, so

: 2657

01:26:49,095 --> 01:26:50,975

that's what makes it good, I guess.

: 2658

01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:57,020

I, I, I kind of miss a lot of the

I, I don't know, maybe I'm a bad

: 2659

01:26:57,020 --> 01:27:01,340

person, but I miss when you could

make fun of things like they,

: 2660

01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:02,809

what they made fun of back then.

: 2661

01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,170

So maybe I'm terrible,

: 2662

01:27:05,650 --> 01:27:09,730

but I wish you could, I wish you

could make movies like this where

: 2663

01:27:09,730 --> 01:27:15,280

people weren't, I mean, maybe not,

maybe not some of it, but I, I wish,

: 2664

01:27:15,550 --> 01:27:19,520

I wish you could like, be a little

more, like less offended people and

: 2665

01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,730

watch this and just take it in stride.

: 2666

01:27:22,030 --> 01:27:22,990

So I like this.

: 2667

01:27:22,990 --> 01:27:26,410

I haven't seen this one forever and it

reminded me of being a teenager again.

: 2668

01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,100

Even though I wasn't a

teenager in: 1984

: 2669

01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:32,860

But if this'll take you back

to some of the insecurities and

: 2670

01:27:32,860 --> 01:27:34,210

weirdness of being a teenager.

: 2671

01:27:34,210 --> 01:27:35,290

So I dig it.

: 2672

01:27:35,290 --> 01:27:37,030

I'm glad I got to revisit this again.

: 2673

01:27:37,726 --> 01:27:38,626

Milo: Yeah, I'm, I'm with you.

: 2674

01:27:38,626 --> 01:27:42,796

It's one of those films that you have to

watch it and put it into context of when

: 2675

01:27:42,796 --> 01:27:45,406

it was made in order to appreciate it.

: 2676

01:27:46,106 --> 01:27:51,071

Having said that, I can also accept how

modern audiences might not like this film,

: 2677

01:27:51,091 --> 01:27:55,016

and I wouldn't fault somebody if they're

like, oh yeah, no, I find it offensive.

: 2678

01:27:55,016 --> 01:27:55,736

I can't watch it.

: 2679

01:27:56,126 --> 01:27:56,936

That's fine.

: 2680

01:27:57,416 --> 01:28:01,026

But, if other people like it, let

them like it, you know, it's a,

: 2681

01:28:01,026 --> 01:28:05,911

certainly, , you have questionable

decisions at various points, but it's a.

: 2682

01:28:06,446 --> 01:28:08,186

Teen comedy from the eighties.

: 2683

01:28:08,186 --> 01:28:11,756

It is what it is and you just have

to appreciate it for what it is.

: 2684

01:28:11,756 --> 01:28:17,796

And you know, it was John Hughes

first film and he started a trend

: 2685

01:28:17,796 --> 01:28:21,906

in the eighties that makes the

eighties part of what it was.

: 2686

01:28:21,906 --> 01:28:25,806

And why we enjoy it is thanks

to John Hughes, so you have

: 2687

01:28:25,806 --> 01:28:26,706

to appreciate it for that.

: 2688

01:28:27,765 --> 01:28:29,055

Katie: Both very well said.

: 2689

01:28:29,465 --> 01:28:33,995

PS I forgot to see if you guys

also laughed at one of my favorite

: 2690

01:28:33,995 --> 01:28:38,315

moments in The movie that I

don't recall ever tracking.

: 2691

01:28:39,995 --> 01:28:42,095

when the grandmas are in

the kitchen trying to make

: 2692

01:28:42,095 --> 01:28:44,075

breakfast, the cigarette ash.

: 2693

01:28:44,135 --> 01:28:44,375

Milo: secret.

: 2694

01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,970

Katie: The one grandma's trying to

catch the other grandma's cigarette

: 2695

01:28:49,970 --> 01:28:54,050

ash while they're cooking and it's the

longest and it's like in two scenes.

: 2696

01:28:54,050 --> 01:28:56,809

Then later when they're like

eating at the table, she's got

: 2697

01:28:56,809 --> 01:28:58,550

a really long cigarette ash too.

: 2698

01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:59,840

I was dying at that.

: 2699

01:29:00,235 --> 01:29:00,525

Milo: Yeah.

: 2700

01:29:00,605 --> 01:29:06,275

Jamie Fenderson: My grandma those long

ass cigarette ashes, and I remember

: 2701

01:29:06,275 --> 01:29:10,145

my mom sometimes like getting a little

ashtray and kind of flicking it off from

: 2702

01:29:10,145 --> 01:29:14,615

my grandma, or they'd cook and even like

the ashes would fall into this stuff.

: 2703

01:29:14,615 --> 01:29:15,305

They'd be like, bitch.

: 2704

01:29:16,370 --> 01:29:17,990

Yeah, we're cooking it anyway.

: 2705

01:29:18,140 --> 01:29:25,220

Dude, don't, smoking was in: 1984

a thing and my grandma had, I don't

: 2706

01:29:25,220 --> 01:29:29,510

know why sometimes she'd smoke, but

sometimes she'd just light it up just

: 2707

01:29:29,540 --> 01:29:31,190

'cause she's just used to having it.

: 2708

01:29:31,190 --> 01:29:35,840

But she wouldn't even smoke it, It

just turned into this long ass thing.

: 2709

01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:37,040

That's funny.

: 2710

01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,350

I'm glad you brought that up because I

: 2711

01:29:40,250 --> 01:29:40,820

so true.

: 2712

01:29:40,820 --> 01:29:42,680

Katie: forgot about it,

but I was like, oh my God.

: 2713

01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,809

And I don't remember noticing

: 2714

01:29:44,809 --> 01:29:45,110

that in

: 2715

01:29:45,155 --> 01:29:48,200

Jamie Fenderson: that was, that

was so real back then though.

: 2716

01:29:48,260 --> 01:29:50,630

he must see that's: 1984

: 2717

01:29:50,630 --> 01:29:51,320

That was real.

: 2718

01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:51,950

Grandma's

: 2719

01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:52,490

Katie: life.

: 2720

01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:53,059

Yeah.

: 2721

01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:54,800

Jamie Fenderson: grandma's had those long

: 2722

01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,180

ass ash cigarettes.

: 2723

01:29:56,900 --> 01:29:57,200

Milo: Yep.

: 2724

01:29:57,230 --> 01:30:00,410

That they would be smoking while

cooking or doing any other thing.

: 2725

01:30:01,295 --> 01:30:03,455

Mm-hmm.

: 2726

01:30:03,620 --> 01:30:05,990

Katie: Well, you guys, where

can we find you more of you?

: 2727

01:30:06,965 --> 01:30:09,665

Milo: Well, you can always find the

eighties and nineties uncensored

: 2728

01:30:10,115 --> 01:30:12,575

at pretty much any podcast player.

: 2729

01:30:12,965 --> 01:30:15,665

You can visit our website, the

eighties and the nineties.com.

: 2730

01:30:16,145 --> 01:30:19,135

And yeah, if you wanna find out

more of what we're working on,

: 2731

01:30:19,345 --> 01:30:24,535

fervor fish media is kind of our,

like all encompassing product.

: 2732

01:30:24,605 --> 01:30:26,765

So that's fervor fish.com

: 2733

01:30:26,855 --> 01:30:28,675

and and then of course, pod jumps.

: 2734

01:30:29,530 --> 01:30:31,840

Katie: I'll have this stuff in

the show notes too, so send me

: 2735

01:30:32,030 --> 01:30:32,450

Milo: Mm-hmm.

: 2736

01:30:32,690 --> 01:30:32,960

Katie: Yeah.

: 2737

01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,930

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: 2738

01:30:36,930 --> 01:30:37,620

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: 2739

01:30:37,620 --> 01:30:38,280

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: 2740

01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:44,070

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