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Episode 19

Captain Ron | S1E19

Today, we go back to September 1992 for the adventure comedy, Captain Ron. As always, we touch on all the other “happenings” of the time in the time capsule.

I’m delighted to be joined by my lovely friend, Shannon Skalka. Being a product of the 80’s, Shannon has a penchant for all things rad and tubular. She considers herself an expert on all the fads from that bodacious era and has the Members Only jacket to prove it. She is a proud aunt of two awesome nieces (and does her best to immerse them in 80’s nostalgia whenever possible). If she's not watching The Goonies for the 217th time she's brunching with friends or creating academic essays for her MBA. You can find Shannon on Facebook and Instagram.

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and welcome to

Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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Today we're gonna travel back

to September,:

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Adventure Comedy Captain Ron.

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And as always, we will touch on

all of the other happenings of

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the time in the time capsule.

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I am so happy to be joined by my

lovely friend Shannon Salka today.

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Shannon, a true product of the

eighties with her members only jacket.

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To prove it is one of my best boozy

Brunching buddies, but she decided to

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move away last year, so I'm thrilled

to welcome her on Retro Made from Afar.

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Shannon, thank you for,

uh, joining me today.

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Shannon: Yes.

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Hello Katie.

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Thank you for having me.

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Very excited to dive back into 92.

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Katie: Well, let's get right

into it by opening the time

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capsule from September of 1992.

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We, there's some pretty good tv.

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So this is, uh, the season 92 to 93.

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And so for Nielsen ratings, the

top shows, number one I feel

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like almost always is Roseanne.

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Did you watch Roseanne or

do you still watch Roseanne?

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Shannon: Watch Roseanne.

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My parents would tape it, videotape

it, and then mark on the tape in pen.

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On tape Roseanne.

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Yeah.

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a

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whole library of, of Roseanne episodes.

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Katie: It really is a good show.

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I still watch it like to fall

asleep to um, then we have

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home improvement, Murphy Brown

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: Murder.

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She wrote, coach.

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Cheers.

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Of course.

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full house, TGIF, baby with full house.

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And then the last one

is Northern Exposure.

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Did you ever watch that or do

you recall anything from it?

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Shannon: I recall it, uh, was it

about like in Alaska and they, it

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was like a dramedy on CBS, right?

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Katie: Oh God, you

remember the network even?

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I believe you're correct.

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And yes, it's a fictional town in Alaska

and it's John Corbett, apparently.

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I vaguely remember watching this, but

don't really remember anything from it.

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But yeah, that's Northern Exposure

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Shannon: I think my parents

might have had it on,

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but it wasn't, yeah, it

wasn't a show we watched.

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Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: A big one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I probably was not in the top shows.

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Maybe this is, its only season

that it eked in the top 10.

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But then we have some really notable

finales that weren't necessarily.

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In the top shows, but the Gold, this

is The Golden Girls Last season.

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That's one of my favorite shows ever.

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Shannon: It

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is.

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And I remember, I remember the final

episode, Dorothy Mary's Blanche's

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uncle, which seemed odd to me

that her uncle was still alive,

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now that I'm thinking about it.

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Um, but yeah, I remember that episode.

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Katie: and it was Leslie Nielsen

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who played him, right?

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Shannon: Yes, it was.

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. Katie: Did you watch Growing Pains?

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I feel like that epitomizes

like my childhood to

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Shannon: I can probably still sing the

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song.

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I loved growing pains.

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you know, we were more of,

like you were mentioning coach,

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that was a big one with my, in

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our household, Murphy Brown, Monday

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Nights, Murphy Brown.

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I could probably name every

night that those shows.

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We're on because we set

our schedule by the shows.

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It's so different now

where you don't have to,

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Katie: Yeah.

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Shannon: you don't have to be

in front of your TV at eight

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o'clock on Tuesday night to watch

Roseanne, you know, you can stream

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it, whatever.

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Um, so yeah.

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You, you would set your watch by what

shows were on that, that evening?

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Katie: Good memory.

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I don't think I could, I just

have such a terrible memory.

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But that is a good point.

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Even now, I mean, my brain is mush anyway,

but when I'm telling someone about a show

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or just at brunch or with whoever, like,

oh, have you seen blah, blah, blah show?

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And they'll be like,

what streamer is it on?

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And I'm like, I don't, I don't remember.

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Like, I can't even recall which

show is on which streamer.

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So this is not helping matters.

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Shannon: Those were shows.

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There was like four networks.

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I mean, it was going to be A B,

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CC, B-S-N-B-C or PBS.

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So it was one of those, you

didn't have to say, oh, it's on

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Netflix, but it's also on freebie.

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Or if you have a Roku, you

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could probably catch it.

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You either had the stations or you

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didn't.

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If you didn't have any,

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Katie: and,

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and Fox.

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Fox comes into play

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: around this time, which we'll get

into, uh, a show that wasn't on very long.

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Also, oh my God, the salute Your Shorts.

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It was their final year.

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Who's the boss?

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Night Court, Cosby Show.

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All of those.

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MacGyver, all of those.

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This is their final year.

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So it's, I feel like this is like turning

from like the eighties into the nineties,

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even though this is 92, like there's

a clear shift in the type of show.

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Shannon: Yeah.

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Katie: also the young writers,

did you ever watch that TV show?

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Shannon: The young writers.

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Katie: It was like set in Old West.

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Shannon: No.

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Katie: Um, yeah, it was cowboys.

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It was like the Pony Express.

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And there were some good-looking

it, good-looking men in it, josh

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Brolin was in it as an example.

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Mm-Hmm.

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Shannon: So kind of like a young

gun spinoff, it sounds like.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Very similar

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esque to that.

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But yes.

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So, um, talking about kind of turning the

ship from the eighties into the nineties,

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the shows that premiered this season.

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So Golden Girls Ended, but Golden Palace

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began.

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: Uh, I actually only

watched that like pretty recently.

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It's not nearly as good

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Shannon: No,

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Katie: the Golden Girls,

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Shannon: I think it was

only on a season too.

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Or like

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one or two seasons at the most.

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Yeah.

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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. But it did have like Cheech Marin and who

was the hotel manager who's like really

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famous now, but at the time he wasn't.

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It's gonna bother me.

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It is Don Cheadle.

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Shannon: Don.

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That's right.

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Oh my gosh.

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Katie: Don Cheadle.

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Shannon: It's hard to think

that he's like of, he was that

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age that he could be in a show.

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I didn't realize he was up

that up that far in years.

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Katie: I mean, he was pretty young.

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He like was managing the hotel, but yeah.

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Don Cheadle Golden Palace.

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Okay.

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Do you remember the Heights

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Shannon: Is

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that a Fox show?

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Katie: It was a mu yes.

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Yes it was.

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And it lasted for less than a season.

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You will.

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Okay.

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It was a musical drama.

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It only lasted for partial season on Fox.

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And the theme to it went to number one on

the billboards by one of the cast members.

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Jamie Walters.

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How do you talk to an angel?

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Do you remember that?

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Shannon: you talk

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to an angel?

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Yes.

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Katie: an named?

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Yes.

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Shannon: I love that.

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Katie: Well, that was from this TV show.

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Shannon: Jamie Walters wasn't

he on 9 0 2 1 Oh as well.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Yeah, I think so.

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Yep.

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Like in the later years?

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Yeah.

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Shannon: Yes.

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Katie: And then The Real

World started this year.

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Shannon: And that would've been

real world New York or, or la

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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Shannon: was the very first

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Katie: season one.

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Season one was New York.

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And that was like with the

cast with, um, Heather B.

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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.Yes.

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Yeah, I remember that.

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Katie: so,

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that was like 30 years ago.

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, that's crazy Town.

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Picket Fences is another show that

I like, kind of have like vaguely.

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It, it premiered this year.

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Um,

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Shannon: Remember that a little bit?

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Katie: remembers the show.

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I don't remember.

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So it's a David E.

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Kelly drama that I, I didn't recall that.

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Or I, at the time, obviously I didn't

really care who directed or produced

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things, but it was with Tom Scar, Kathy

Baker, Lauren Holly, Holly Marie Combs.

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I think it was another one of

those dramas, probably on a, B, C.

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Shannon: I think it was CBS

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Katie: Okay.

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That's probably right.

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I can't believe you remem you

have such a good memory of that,

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Shannon: We had,

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we had four stations that we could choose

from because we, we were not lucky enough

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to have cable to have a satellite dish.

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so you, you know, you really had to open

up your, um, open up your options if you

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wanted to be entertained that evening.

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Katie: that, that evening.

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Yes, indeed.

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Uh, so do you remember California Dreams?

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It was basically like a lesser

version of Saved by the Bell,

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Shannon: I can sing

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Katie: how I would describe it.

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Shannon: Loved California Dreams,

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Katie: You did.

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Shannon: with Attitude.

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Chronic gro,

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Katie: Oh my.

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Shannon: laid back moves sky above, sand,

be low, good vibrations, feeling mellow.

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Loved that show.

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It was a little bit more of

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Katie: Oh my

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Shannon: Saved by the Bell.

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They were

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Katie: Okay.

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Okay.

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Shannon: I think the characters,

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it wasn't the gut bubblegum pop.

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Um, I think that

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the, the problems were a bit

more serious, more teen oriented.

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Where Saved By the Bell was geared

towards four year olds to 24 year

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olds in college, um, who were just

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waking up that morning.

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So, but I loved California Dreams.

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Katie: What about Melrose Place?

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Shannon: Melrose Place.

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You know, I didn't get into

Melrose Place until I was in

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college because we didn't have

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Fox and I didn't

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Katie: Fox wasn't one of the, it didn't.

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Why?

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That's weird.

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I'm, huh.

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Shannon: Nebraska in 1992,

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Katie: we we had Fox.

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I watched all the Fox shows.

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So you didn't get to watch like married

with children or anything then either.

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Shannon: Not until I was, not

until I was older or at my

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grandparents' house.

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Like, we could watch it

because my grandparents had

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satellite, had a satellite

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dish.

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Um, and so we could watch it over there.

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So I do remember watching some

episodes of Married with Children,

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but I don't think we actually, I

really got into it until college.

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Katie: Interesting.

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Melrose was a, that was like an ooh show.

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Like

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Shannon: right?

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Katie: that was appointment TV for sure.

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And then some of the other TV shows.

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This is very reminiscent of nineties now.

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Martin hanging with Mr.

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Cooper.

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Mad about you.

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Like, yeah, so we, we have completely

closed the door in the eighties and

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we're full on into the nineties now,

early nineties, which we'll get into now.

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The music of.

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92.

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the specific week of September 18th that

week,:

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, the number one song is

It's The End of the Road

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Shannon: voice to Men.

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Katie: Boys to Men.

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Apparently it was from

the movie Boomerang.

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I don't really recall it being from

that movie, but Boys to Men Boy,

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the early nineties were it for them.

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Shannon: Oh yeah, they, they

represented the early nineties.

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I think

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every song that they put out was platinum

number one on the billboard charts.

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Every Saturday you'd listen

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to Rick D's in the weekly top

40 and they would be on there

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Katie: that just opened a memory for

me when we would, uh, drive I don't

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know, two hours away to wherever, like a

relative's house for a holiday or whatever

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on Sundays, if it was on a Sunday.

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Casey Cassim's show.

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Did you ever listen to that on the radio?

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Shannon: time.

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Remember people would, people would

write in and they would be like, these

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human interest stories, and

he would get really serious.

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And when he was reading 'em, almost

like the guy who did, and now you

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know the rest of the story, he

would sign off and then he'd jump

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right into, and now it's locomotion.

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Katie: locomotion.

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Yep.

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Shannon: Yeah.

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Katie: Do you have

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Shannon: La Baba

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Katie: Great movie, by the way.

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Shannon: a really good movie.

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Katie: Um, I'm gonna have to work

that in somehow, uh, into a season.

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The number two song.

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Is also like this album was everything.

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Baby, baby, baby.

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By TLC.

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Shannon: my mom had that

CD and I would steal it.

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Any chance

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Katie: Your mom had that

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Shannon: my mom?

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Katie: Your mother?

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Shannon: good music.

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My mom had good music.

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Um, but I remember like the

cover of that CD and everything.

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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Shannon: baby.

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baby.

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Katie: No, you're thinking of Amy Grant,

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Shannon: I totally agree.

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few bars of Baby, baby, baby,

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Katie: baby.

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baby.

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Baby,

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Shannon: Yeah.

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Katie: yeah.

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Shannon: Oh, wow.

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TLC.

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Yes.

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Another great one.

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The men and the women on the, you

know, battling for number one.

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Katie: Oh my God.

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That's true.

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And it's all, there's so much like

boy band, girl band at this time.

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: Not necessarily.

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They weren't a band.

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The number three song is by

Bobby Brown humping around

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Shannon: Not

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nearly the the hit that I,

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I liked.

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Way better.

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Katie: Me too.

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I did too.

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I liked Bobby Brown, but I wasn't like

dying to get his albums or anything.

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Shannon: no.

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Katie: Uh, I am so I do not

know the number four song.

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I even looked it up.

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Never heard of it.

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The song is called Stay the

Artist is Shakespeare's sister.

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Shannon: Sister.

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I love that song.

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I love that song.

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I encourage you to watch the video

because it is weird, but the song,

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Katie: it's super weird.

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The Ghostly White Short-Haired Girl.

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Yeah, I watched it, but I didn't

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like it at all, like at

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Shannon: up I thought that the, the

two women singing were the same woman.

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But now as an adult and seeing that video,

I realize that it's two different women.

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stay with me.

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Stay with me.

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Yes.

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Katie: Yeah, it's terrible.

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I hate it.

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I, I, I didn't like, I didn't like

it and I also don't recall it at

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like zero memory of it at all.

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I

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Shannon: I remember it.

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and I remember, um, years ago I was

thinking about it and I was like,

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God, what was the name of the group?

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And I kept typing in Twisted Sister, which

is a totally different genre of music

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Katie: Very different.

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Shannon: Yeah.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Shannon: But luckily, TikTok, um, brought

me, you know, a for your page, and it

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was that song and I was like, this is

the song that I loved when I was little.

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And I love that song, but the video is

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very, very different.

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Katie: Strange.

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Mm-Hmm.

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number five on the billboard.

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Top 10 is one of my, it's probably

in my top 10 of all time songs.

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November Rain by Guns and Roses.

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Shannon: Another

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Katie: The video for

this is Spec Spectacular.

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Shannon: it's, it's a work of art.

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Um, it is a work of art

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Katie: It's like 12 minutes long.

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Shannon: Oh yeah.

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And slash

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uh, that really set the stage for

what type of man I was attracted

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to was slash where he's playing

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the guitar in a field and like

the wind's blowing his shirt open.

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You can't see his, his face 'cause his

hair is covering it and he's got his top

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hat on

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Katie: never see his face.

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Shannon: cigarette

hanging out of his mouth.

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Oh That was it for me.

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Katie: I liked both Axel and slash I.

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That video did it for me.

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Let me tell you what, I loved it.

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Shannon: It was a story.

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It was, yeah, it was like a movie.

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And Stephanie Seymour, was she

the model in it or the, the bride

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Katie: she was, and she and Axel were

like boyfriend girlfriend at the time

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Shannon: and I think.

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I read somewhere.

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Yeah, they were, and I think I

read somewhere that like life was

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imitating art for them at that

time that they were having problems

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and the video, they were shooting

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the video at the same time they

were having these, these issues.

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And she

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might've, she might've

tried to hurt herself.

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Around the same time as the video.

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I don't, you know what?

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I don't want anybody to attach

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any legitimacy to that

statement, but I hate to be

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liable.

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Katie: also, um, I wanted her dress.

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I, when I was little, I, and I was like,

well, when I grew up and get married,

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I wanna wear a wedding dress like that.

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Like they're super short in

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:

Shannon: short.

457

:

Yeah, like a high

458

:

low, like she was the, the

459

:

Katie: Yeah.

460

:

Like the back was long.

461

:

Shannon: yeah.

462

:

The mullet

463

:

Katie: She was beautiful too.

464

:

Shannon: Oh Yeah.

465

:

absolutely.

466

:

Uh

467

:

he was very good looking as well.

468

:

And uh, then somebody got ahold of him

and convinced him that 17 surgeries in

469

:

one year on your face is a good idea.

470

:

But poor guy.

471

:

I think they were

472

:

just in Denver performing

a couple weeks ago.

473

:

I think they were just in

474

:

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

475

:

. They were, yep.

476

:

They were recently.

477

:

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

478

:

I wonder what that show is

479

:

, Katie: Patty Smith has the number six song

with Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough.

480

:

What a, what a lovely song.

481

:

That was

482

:

Shannon: I don't remember that song.

483

:

Katie: You do, you definitely do.

484

:

Shannon: Is it a country song?

485

:

Katie: Yeah.

486

:

I can't sing it.

487

:

I can't sing it.

488

:

No, but it's like soft.

489

:

It's soft.

490

:

I don't know what genre I would put it in.

491

:

Um,

492

:

the opposite of the next song,

which is House of Pains Jump Around.

493

:

Um,

494

:

Shannon: Junior High

495

:

Katie: that I remember liking.

496

:

Yep.

497

:

Junior.

498

:

Yep.

499

:

For sure.

500

:

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

501

:

Katie: I do not like this song or artist.

502

:

The number eight.

503

:

Is just another day by John Cicada or Ada.

504

:

I hated him.

505

:

I never liked that genre of like,

I didn't like Seal John Akata,

506

:

like any of that kind of stuff.

507

:

I didn't like it

508

:

Shannon: I don't either, and I

don't know if I know the song, but

509

:

if you're describing it correctly,

then I'm not a fan either.

510

:

Katie: But Elton John has the number

nine song with the one which is not a

511

:

super recognizable, like you definitely

know it, you definitely know it once

512

:

you hear it, but, , it's not like

one of, I don't ever think of it when

513

:

I'm thinking of Elton John songs.

514

:

And then the number 10 song, we've

covered this band before and I

515

:

don't recall ever hearing of them.

516

:

Have you heard of the band High Five?

517

:

It's a boy group.

518

:

Shannon: Now.

519

:

Katie: it's like, um, it's

like a knockoff of Boys to Men.

520

:

The song is called, she's Playing Hard to

Get, but it's, it's basically like, yeah.

521

:

A poor man's boys to men.

522

:

And the video

523

:

Shannon: great value,

524

:

boys to men,

525

:

Katie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

526

:

. Yeah.

527

:

The generic version.

528

:

But the video's pretty awesome

in that it encompasses:

529

:

Like the outfits, the style of video.

530

:

It is, everything about it is very 1992

531

:

So there's not really a lot

of like interesting news or

532

:

events from September of 92.

533

:

But John Mellencamp got

married to his third wife.

534

:

He was 40, she was 23.

535

:

She was a model.

536

:

Her name's Elaine Irwin and

they got divorced in:

537

:

Shannon: huh?

538

:

That's

539

:

Katie: What about it is surprising?

540

:

Shannon: Uh, well then it didn't last.

541

:

Katie: Oh, you were being facetious?

542

:

. Well, it lasted a fair amount.

543

:

I mean, more

544

:

Shannon: When did you

say they got divorced?

545

:

Katie: was his third wife.

546

:

Oh, 2011.

547

:

Shannon: Oh, you're right.

548

:

They were married for quite, I

549

:

should bite my tongue.

550

:

Katie: but I mean, it was his third wife.

551

:

I don't know if he's gotten

married again since then.

552

:

Is he still dating Meg

Ryan, or is that old news

553

:

Shannon: I don't know if he is or not.

554

:

And, and

555

:

Katie: minute.

556

:

Shannon: yeah, they were dating.

557

:

Um, I don't know if they are or not.

558

:

I listened to

559

:

his daughter's podcast, but she's never,

I, the podcast I've listened to is,

560

:

she's never talked about Meg Ryan, but

granted I haven't listened to that many.

561

:

Katie: Okay.

562

:

I didn't know his daughter had a podcast,

but you know what, that's not surprising.

563

:

Literally everyone has a podcast.

564

:

, Stallone's daughters have one too.

565

:

Uh, yeah, so Captain Ron was

actually the number seven movie

566

:

at the theaters during this month.

567

:

There's some really good ones sneakers,

which I don't know, I've not seen that.

568

:

It's like a spy movie.

569

:

It's not about shoes.

570

:

Shannon: I've never seen it.

571

:

Uh, so it is a spy movie.

572

:

And who's in it?

573

:

Do, why am I thinking

that Brad Pitt is in it?

574

:

Katie: I don't,

575

:

Shannon: Uh, that's

576

:

Katie: um,

577

:

Shannon: Or Tommy

578

:

Lee Jones.

579

:

Katie: thinking of something else.

580

:

Maybe, I can't recall.

581

:

Shannon: Yeah.

582

:

Katie: Yeah.

583

:

but Honeymoon in Vegas.

584

:

Shannon: Great movie.

585

:

Katie: Unforgiven

586

:

Shannon: Oh, unforgiveness

is another good one.

587

:

Mm-Hmm.

588

:

Katie: Yeah.

589

:

Single white female.

590

:

I adored this movie for some weird reason.

591

:

It was, it seemed so

different at the time.

592

:

Like, wow, this is something brand new

and yeah, I really liked that movie.

593

:

Mm-Hmm.

594

:

Shannon: It had hints of

Fatal attraction in it.

595

:

Um,

596

:

except it was a roommate.

597

:

Yeah.

598

:

Katie: Yeah.

599

:

Mm-Hmm.

600

:

Shannon: That was a good movie.

601

:

Katie: sister Act,

602

:

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

603

:

That was a good one.

604

:

Katie: which is really good.

605

:

It's really good.

606

:

Shannon: My grandparents had that tape.

607

:

That was one that we felt

safe watching at their house.

608

:

Like we knew that nothing was gonna be

609

:

embarrassing.

610

:

We watched a lot of sister

act at my grandparents' house.

611

:

Katie: I feel like we maybe

had that one taped too.

612

:

We had single white female taped.

613

:

I'm pretty sure as well,

614

:

Shannon: Uhhuh

615

:

Katie: the last of the Mohicans, which

I remember being a big movie, but I

616

:

don't recall a single thing about it.

617

:

Shannon: I don't know if I ever watched

it, but I remember, I think he won like

618

:

the, he always won an Academy Award.

619

:

It didn't matter.

620

:

He could be,

621

:

make a movie about washing

dishes and he'd probably win.

622

:

But, um,

623

:

Madeline Stowe, who was kind of a

624

:

nineties actress and

then, you know, to the

625

:

millennium hit and she

faded off into the distance.

626

:

Um,

627

:

but

628

:

Katie: But then she came

back with that revenge show.

629

:

Shannon: Oh,

630

:

she was on

631

:

Katie: with her in it?

632

:

Shannon: No,

633

:

Katie: Yeah.

634

:

Yeah.

635

:

Did you watch that show?

636

:

Shannon: I didn't watch that show.

637

:

That

638

:

was Madeline Sto Or are you thinking

of the lady from Dances with Wolves?

639

:

Maybe I'm wrong.

640

:

Maybe

641

:

Katie: It was Madeline Stowe in

revenge as like the rich wife.

642

:

I forget what her name is.

643

:

Anyway, this next movie I recently

rewatched because it's like Halloweeny.

644

:

It's so good.

645

:

Death becomes her.

646

:

Do you remember that one

647

:

Shannon: Who, who keeps calling Helen.

648

:

Mad and

649

:

hell.

650

:

Katie: our, Meryl Streep and

our Kurt Russell's lovely lady,

651

:

Goldie Han and Bruce Willis.

652

:

It's so good.

653

:

Shannon: It's, I mean,

654

:

I probably watch it at

least once every six months.

655

:

And that was when we saw,

I saw in the movie theater.

656

:

I think my aunt took us, um, to see it.

657

:

But we, I actually

658

:

saw that

659

:

Katie: I didn't see it in the theater.

660

:

Shannon: Oh yeah.

661

:

Great.

662

:

Katie: It's one of those where there's a

lot, like a lot would be lost on children.

663

:

I feel like it's, it's, it's

a quick, quick witted one.

664

:

Mm-Hmm.

665

:

And then a League of

666

:

Their Own was a big movie release.

667

:

Shannon: oh, a League of their Own.

668

:

Yep.

669

:

Love

670

:

that movie too.

671

:

I love a league of of their own.

672

:

And actually there was a TV show that they

made into, or they made, they made a TV

673

:

show from the movie that was short-lived,

674

:

Katie: Of a League of their Own.

675

:

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

676

:

Katie: Sorry.

677

:

I feel like we are, I feel like

there might be a touch of a delay.

678

:

so then the last movie that

was a big release for September

679

:

of 92 is Pet Cemetery two.

680

:

Shannon: Terrible movie.

681

:

Katie: I don't recall it.

682

:

I liked the first one.

683

:

I don't, yeah, I don't know.

684

:

Even

685

:

Shannon: It was.

686

:

Yeah, it is.

687

:

It was awful.

688

:

It was terrible.

689

:

Edward Furlong.

690

:

The only thing that was good about that

691

:

movie was Edward Furlong.

692

:

Um, before Edward Furlong.

693

:

Hit the skids.

694

:

Um, he was in that movie

695

:

Katie: He certainly was.

696

:

Okay.

697

:

I do have a few last questions for

you before we jump into the movie,

698

:

Shannon: Okay.

699

:

Katie: just to kind of get your

impressions of Kurt and Patrick.

700

:

So this season of Retro Made is dedicated

to who I call the ultimate every men,

701

:

both Kurt Russell and Patrick Swayze.

702

:

Do you have any thoughts or fandom

to share about either of them?

703

:

Shannon: Growing up, I think that for me,

Patrick Squeezy was way more recognizable,

704

:

simply because I saw dirty dancing at

the tender age of eight, eight or nine.

705

:

And then ghost, what was that,

approximately:

706

:

Uh, I do, yeah.

707

:

And I don't think I became

aware of Kurt Russell as much.

708

:

I think I knew who he was.

709

:

You know, my folks would maybe

have like, what was it, big

710

:

trouble in little China on, in.

711

:

in.

712

:

Katie: Oh, I love that.

713

:

Yes.

714

:

Shannon: Yeah, they, I have that on.

715

:

But when I saw Overboard in college, uh,

one of my friends on my floor or our, you

716

:

know, where we lived in, in Centennial

Towers East had that, and I borrowed

717

:

Katie: Ooh.

718

:

Shannon: and I was like, what is

this movie that I'm just now seeing?

719

:

Kurt Russell is amazing in this movie,

and he is every man in that movie.

720

:

So since that time, I think that for me it

still remains Patrick Swayze, just because

721

:

I have such ties to him from my childhood.

722

:

Unfortunately, he was

taken from us way too soon.

723

:

Who knows what he might've done.

724

:

Um, you know, now, but Kurt Russell,

you don't really see him in anything.

725

:

I think he was in, um, a Tarantino

movie, like, oh gosh, like the

726

:

Hateful Aid or something like that.

727

:

I could be wrong, but other than

728

:

that, he probably doesn't have to work.

729

:

Uh, so he's just like, I'm just gonna

730

:

Katie: no, he's in like a series.

731

:

He's in like some series, but

it's, yeah, they're like, um, and

732

:

he's in some of the Marvel movie.

733

:

Like he's and like Fast and Furious movie,

like stuff that I wouldn't watch now.

734

:

Like I have zero interest

in the Fast and Furious 20.

735

:

Or like, it's, he's in, I wanna say's like

736

:

Monsters of the something.

737

:

It's on one of the streamers.

738

:

It's a show that I would have

zero interest in watching.

739

:

But he is in that some

740

:

Shannon: And, and you.

741

:

And you said he is in Marvel too.

742

:

Um, which does not surprise

me because his son Wyatt,

743

:

is like the new Captain

America or something.

744

:

They had Cap Captain American, the

Winter Soldier, or winter, no, I'm sorry.

745

:

Winter soldier in the Falcon.

746

:

I'm, he was in that,

like his son was in that.

747

:

Katie: Well they're in this TV show

together It's gonna bother me now.

748

:

It's like, it starts with an m.

749

:

Shannon: Huh?

750

:

I think he's, I think he's a great actor.

751

:

I think comedic, you

know, a comedic actor.

752

:

He's very funny.

753

:

Uh, again, captain Ron and Overboard are

the two movies that I, if somebody said

754

:

Kurt Russell, that's what I think of.

755

:

Katie: Yep overboard.

756

:

I can't Oh, you missed

out in your childhood?

757

:

Not having seen that, um, until

758

:

college, but it, it's Monarch

legacy of the Monsters is the

759

:

Shannon: Oh,

760

:

Katie: So like I have

zero interest in that.

761

:

Mm.

762

:

Apples tv, maybe Apple

763

:

Shannon: Oh, okay.

764

:

Interesting.

765

:

But going back to your original

question, yes, Patrick Swayze will

766

:

always hold a place in my heart.

767

:

Um.

768

:

For, for those movies.

769

:

Roadhouse, you know, that was another

770

:

great one that Ricky,

yeah, really good one.

771

:

Oh my gosh, the outsiders

forgot about that.

772

:

Probably one of his first

773

:

movies.

774

:

Um, that I, yeah, I

really like the outsiders.

775

:

What else?

776

:

Yeah.

777

:

Yeah.

778

:

that's where

779

:

he stand.

780

:

Katie: Red, red Dawn two, Wong

781

:

Fu.

782

:

Um, yeah, I'm just trying to think of

what's kind of filled in in between there.

783

:

Yeah.

784

:

Well, my next question is I ask everyone

this, do you think that Patrick Swayze

785

:

and Kurt Russell look at all alike?

786

:

Shannon: No.

787

:

Do you.

788

:

Katie: Very much so.

789

:

You're the first, probably one of the few.

790

:

So I haven't had a lot of women

on most, and it is one of those

791

:

things, a, a lot of women very

much think that they look alike.

792

:

They have a similar like

bone facial structure.

793

:

They're both incredibly handsome,

strong jawline masculine.

794

:

They're both, every men,

their hair is similar.

795

:

I mean, not in Captain Ron

796

:

,

Shannon: Yeah, maybe, maybe now that you're saying this, and I'm picturing them

797

:

both in my head, it's not a correlation

I would've made if somebody hadn't,

798

:

you know, put it, put it out there.

799

:

But I guess you're right.

800

:

Yeah.

801

:

When you put 'em side by side,

they could probably play brothers.

802

:

Not now,

803

:

Katie: Yes.

804

:

That's what I want to happen.

805

:

Like Dalton, Dalton, side by side

with, um, uh, what, what was, what

806

:

was Kurt's name in, um, overboard?

807

:

Shannon: uh, profit Dean, profit

808

:

Katie: Dean.

809

:

Dean.

810

:

Yes.

811

:

So Dalton and Dean.

812

:

I want that

813

:

Shannon: Okay.

814

:

Katie: please.

815

:

Yes.

816

:

Okay, let's get into the movie.

817

:

Captain Ron.

818

:

September 18th, 1992.

819

:

It's PG 13.

820

:

Now it's an hour and 40

minutes, but I really thought

821

:

it was way longer it seemed.

822

:

Shannon: I kept pausing

823

:

to see how much, yeah.

824

:

Like, I was like, when is this movie done?

825

:

like, I kept pausing to see how

much time was left, and when it

826

:

said 45 minutes, I was like, really?

827

:

What else are they?

828

:

What, what other storyline

can they drag into this?

829

:

I mean, what is going to happen?

830

:

I completely agree with you, Katie, that

that movie did drag on, uh, probably

831

:

could have been an hour and got the same

832

:

Katie: Well, but, but

that's why it's shocking.

833

:

It's, it was only an hour and 40

minutes apparently, but it seemed

834

:

so much longer than that.

835

:

There was, there was a lot packed into it.

836

:

The INDB rating was a 5.8.

837

:

Our director here is Tom Eberhart.

838

:

he also directed, uh, honey.

839

:

I Blew Up the Kids and Without

a clue, and he was also one of

840

:

the writers for Captain Ron.

841

:

The other writer is John Dwyer,

known for this movie, and it's

842

:

like a newer, newer series.

843

:

Confessions of a Serial Killer.

844

:

The music, which I didn't take like

special note of as I was watching it as

845

:

I sometimes do, it didn't blow me away.

846

:

Uh, but it was Nicholas Pike who

is an English composer, known for

847

:

a lot of TV work and the shows that

he is known for will make sense that

848

:

it, that he was on Captain Wrong.

849

:

So there was apparently a

miniseries for the, like the

850

:

Shining miniseries, not the movie.

851

:

Also Tales from the Crypt,

852

:

Shannon: Well, don't you?

853

:

Wait, don't you?

854

:

remember we talked to, we talked about,

um, going back to the Shining mini series.

855

:

I don't wanna get too off track,

but, um, we, the, when we stayed

856

:

at the, um, hotel in Estes,

857

:

um, the Stanley

858

:

That's where they shot

859

:

the second one.

860

:

The first one, the movie was shot

somewhere out in like New England,

861

:

like Maine or something like that.

862

:

So the, the mini series,

863

:

which the guy from Wing, Steven

Weber, Rebecca Derna, were in it.

864

:

They shot that one.

865

:

And it was like a, this was an event

in my life, that's why I know this.

866

:

I loved it.

867

:

I taped it.

868

:

I was a senior in high school,

watched it over and over.

869

:

Um, but

870

:

that was shot.

871

:

Katie: it.

872

:

Shannon: It's really, it's much

more aligned with the book.

873

:

Stephen King, I think, had a

lot more, um, input and, uh,

874

:

he did a lot more with this.

875

:

Like they consulted him

on, on it, um, to make it

876

:

more, yeah, comparative to the

book versus the, the movie with

877

:

Jack Nicholson and Shelly Duvall.

878

:

Um.

879

:

But again, they shot it at the

actual Stanley Hotel, which is

880

:

much smaller in scale than the one

that they shot the first one in.

881

:

Um, but yeah, I do recommend you

watch it because we were there.

882

:

We, you know, you'll re if you can

remember when we went there, because

883

:

it was only few years ago, you'll

be like, oh my gosh, I remember

884

:

that lobby and I remember that

ballroom and I remember the bar

885

:

that they showed us.

886

:

Yeah.

887

:

So,

888

:

Katie: mm-Hmm.

889

:

Yeah.

890

:

We did a tour of it and stayed there.

891

:

I, we didn't get haunted though.

892

:

Shannon: uh,

893

:

We

894

:

have

895

:

Katie: not stay in that special room.

896

:

Shannon: no, but our friend, I

won't name names to protect the

897

:

innocent, but our friend, the other

898

:

Katie: Oh yeah.

899

:

Shannon: she

900

:

swears up and down

901

:

like

902

:

Katie: she does.

903

:

Shannon: footsteps or something above us.

904

:

I'm like, we're in a hotel.

905

:

We, of course there's footsteps above us.

906

:

Katie: Yeah.

907

:

There's people staying above us.

908

:

Shannon: but, you know, there's,

there's no convincing her, she,

909

:

she had otherworldly experience.

910

:

Katie: That's right,

911

:

that's right.

912

:

I have forgotten about that.

913

:

God, it is a good thing that you're around

sometimes because my memory is total shit.

914

:

Okay.

915

:

Shannon: We took a tour.

916

:

They talked about

917

:

Katie: that.

918

:

I know, I know.

919

:

I don't remember things.

920

:

I don't.

921

:

Um, also tales from the, the crypt.

922

:

He led the band on the Bonnie Hunt Show.

923

:

He did music videos for

Michael Jackson's ghost.

924

:

You Rock My World, and some Mc hammer

videos and Will Smith's Wild Wild West.

925

:

So like that kind of tells a story of

like the type of music that he does.

926

:

But so that's Nicholas Pike.

927

:

We have our lovely every man Kurt

Russell in a very different role

928

:

for him playing Captain Ron, what

did you think when you saw him, when

929

:

Shannon: Um,

930

:

Katie: introduced to him?

931

:

Shannon: yes, absolutely.

932

:

You know, this is a movie that I watched

when I was 12, uh, when it came out.

933

:

I remember.

934

:

My grand seeing it at my grandparents'

house because they had a satellite dish.

935

:

Uh, so I wasn't surprised

by his appearance.

936

:

In fact, I more so imagine him as,

you know, the long dingy hair because

937

:

that's who he played in, um, overboard.

938

:

I don't know if I necessarily would

think of him in any other way than the

939

:

long, scruffy hair and the open shirt or

the, the tank top, because those are the

940

:

movies that, that I am familiar with.

941

:

When you say, oh, this is a quite

different role for him that I find,

942

:

I, I can't, um, consign myself to

simply because these are the movies

943

:

I seen and I couldn't see

him in a dramatic role.

944

:

Oh, maybe swing time.

945

:

I think he, he was in swing time.

946

:

Right.

947

:

But I don't, yeah.

948

:

But anyway, um, when I first saw

him, I thought he looked good.

949

:

You know, they had him painted

up a little red, too red, the

950

:

makeup, like, like he's been sun,

951

:

sun

952

:

Katie: like sun.

953

:

Shannon: and Yeah, he, yeah, he looked

like he had an, he was on fire internally.

954

:

Like it was just really red.

955

:

But

956

:

Katie: Oh my God.

957

:

This is so very interesting,

Shannon, because.

958

:

The reason I You are right.

959

:

Like, so it's not his hair.

960

:

He's wearing a really horrible wig.

961

:

It's bad hair.

962

:

And he has a dad bod.

963

:

He's usually

964

:

Shannon: oh, total dad bod.

965

:

Mm-Hmm.

966

:

Katie: nice, nicer looking.

967

:

But this every other movie that we've

covered, curtain, he's very handsome.

968

:

And you, like, I'm very

attracted to him, but not

969

:

This is the first movie that

I'm not attracted to him in.

970

:

Shannon: Well, were, were, are

the movies that you're comparing

971

:

him to when he was younger?

972

:

Because this is like, he's

middle aged in this movie.

973

:

This is 1992, you know, so

he's gotta be like, I would say

974

:

late thirties, early forties.

975

:

Right.

976

:

So having a dad bod would, would

not be, um, you know, something

977

:

that is surprising to me.

978

:

Katie: I mean, he's never

been super, super buff.

979

:

He's, he's never been like,

cut by that I mean cut.

980

:

Um, like Swayze was cut like

very, you know, um, but like.

981

:

I mean, we've covered things

from literally like:

982

:

to the most recent one.

983

:

Like tango and cash,

984

:

Shannon: Oh yeah.

985

:

Katie: overboard.

986

:

The thing, um, backdraft,

I'm trying to think.

987

:

Some other cur I just covered

tombstone that, at the time of this

988

:

recording will have already been out.

989

:

Um, so, and he's, yeah.

990

:

Middle.

991

:

I guess I have no problem with him being

middle aged, especially at that time.

992

:

I think a lot of guys, which is

sucks for us because they look

993

:

better when they're like middle.

994

:

Like these really hunky,

handsome Hollywood stars

995

:

look good in their forties

996

:

and fifties a lot of the time.

997

:

So he's very, and he's got those eyes all,

yeah, Kurt Russell and everything else

998

:

he does is very handsome except for this

999

:

Shannon: in this movie, he

has an eye, not the eyes.

:

00:39:26,005 --> 00:39:26,815

Katie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:39:27,765 --> 00:39:28,055

. Yeah.

:

00:39:28,445 --> 00:39:28,735

Yeah.

:

00:39:28,835 --> 00:39:30,895

So anyway, that was what I took note of.

:

00:39:30,895 --> 00:39:33,015

It was like, oh, I don't,

this is the first time I'm

:

00:39:33,015 --> 00:39:36,095

not jumping at Kurt Russell.

:

00:39:37,835 --> 00:39:38,125

Shannon: Yeah.

:

00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:40,765

And I just have never, I've never

seen him in a movie where he's been

:

00:39:40,805 --> 00:39:43,005

a, a sex object or a sex symbol, so

:

00:39:43,305 --> 00:39:44,245

it didn't surprise me.

:

00:39:44,245 --> 00:39:46,605

What surprised me was the makeup

that they had on his chest.

:

00:39:46,635 --> 00:39:50,565

Like I said, um, he just

looked, he looked very red.

:

00:39:51,745 --> 00:39:52,165

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

:

00:39:52,435 --> 00:39:52,725

. Yeah.

:

00:39:52,725 --> 00:39:53,965

He's supposed to be Sun Bumb.

:

00:39:55,115 --> 00:39:56,135

Shannon: He looked like he just walked

:

00:39:57,525 --> 00:39:57,815

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:39:58,865 --> 00:40:03,565

Martin Short plays Martin

Harvey and Mary Kay Place.

:

00:40:03,745 --> 00:40:03,965

Ha.

:

00:40:04,195 --> 00:40:05,245

Mary Kay place.

:

00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:07,570

Plays his wife.

:

00:40:07,710 --> 00:40:08,490

Say that a few times.

:

00:40:09,350 --> 00:40:13,730

Um, Catherine Harvey and she,

everyone knows who she is.

:

00:40:14,315 --> 00:40:14,605

Shannon: Yeah.

:

00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:18,790

Katie: Even if you don't, you can't

like place her name, but she's known for

:

00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:21,750

like the Big Chill being John Malkovich.

:

00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:26,110

And she was actually Emmy

nominated for her, uh, long

:

00:40:26,110 --> 00:40:28,630

running guest role in Big Love.

:

00:40:29,130 --> 00:40:30,150

Did you ever see that show

:

00:40:31,075 --> 00:40:31,829

Shannon: Uh, yes.

:

00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:37,229

I think I was, uh, we were, were we in

our like, early, early twenties when

:

00:40:37,229 --> 00:40:39,069

that show was on, it was about, um,

:

00:40:40,824 --> 00:40:41,384

Katie: polygamy?

:

00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:42,219

Shannon: Yeah.

:

00:40:42,219 --> 00:40:42,659

Polygamy.

:

00:40:42,799 --> 00:40:46,979

Um, and I did not know she was in

that, but she was also in Sweet Home

:

00:40:46,979 --> 00:40:48,699

Alabama, who, she, she played a mother

:

00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,699

in that movie, a very different looking

kind of mother, uh, than she plays in

:

00:40:52,699 --> 00:40:53,099

this movie.

:

00:40:54,344 --> 00:40:54,764

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

:

00:40:54,989 --> 00:40:57,289

Shannon: here's a fun fact that

I knew about Mary Kay place.

:

00:40:58,429 --> 00:41:00,609

She directed an episode of Friends.

:

00:41:01,617 --> 00:41:02,037

Katie: really?

:

00:41:02,832 --> 00:41:03,122

Shannon: Yeah,

:

00:41:03,197 --> 00:41:03,807

Katie: Good tidbit.

:

00:41:03,842 --> 00:41:04,042

Shannon: know.

:

00:41:04,087 --> 00:41:04,327

Katie: like that.

:

00:41:04,892 --> 00:41:05,182

Shannon: Yeah.

:

00:41:05,367 --> 00:41:06,137

Katie: Just one off.

:

00:41:06,257 --> 00:41:06,977

A one off, huh?

:

00:41:07,072 --> 00:41:09,282

Shannon: Just a one-off,

uh, a one-off episode.

:

00:41:09,282 --> 00:41:10,842

And it's a pretty, I

mean, it's a good episode.

:

00:41:10,872 --> 00:41:11,802

It's the, the list.

:

00:41:12,222 --> 00:41:15,802

Um, the one, it's season

two, the one where

:

00:41:16,902 --> 00:41:17,592

Ross creates

:

00:41:17,612 --> 00:41:18,032

the list

:

00:41:18,047 --> 00:41:18,647

Katie: the things wrong,

:

00:41:19,532 --> 00:41:19,752

Shannon: Yes.

:

00:41:19,752 --> 00:41:21,952

With Rachel and, um, Julie,

:

00:41:22,332 --> 00:41:24,032

um, you know when he brings Julie home?

:

00:41:24,062 --> 00:41:24,352

Yeah.

:

00:41:24,382 --> 00:41:24,672

Yeah.

:

00:41:25,412 --> 00:41:28,152

Uh, she directed that

episode, which you don't like.

:

00:41:28,172 --> 00:41:29,952

That's just kind of outta

left field, but whatever.

:

00:41:29,952 --> 00:41:30,512

It's great episode.

:

00:41:30,512 --> 00:41:31,112

She did a good job.

:

00:41:31,867 --> 00:41:32,287

Katie: indeed.

:

00:41:33,507 --> 00:41:37,487

So then the kids in this, I love

that this movie, it's a pretty

:

00:41:37,487 --> 00:41:41,367

small cast sometimes there's, um,

such a big cast of characters.

:

00:41:41,757 --> 00:41:45,787

It's hard to keep everybody straight,

but this is short and sweet.

:

00:41:46,507 --> 00:41:51,547

Benjamin Salisbury plays the

11-year-old Ben Harvey and.

:

00:41:52,467 --> 00:41:55,677

This is pre the Nanny, but

that's, he's most known for

:

00:41:55,677 --> 00:41:57,797

playing Brighton in the Nanny.

:

00:41:58,497 --> 00:42:03,997

And I gotta say this kid, I

don't typically like kid actors.

:

00:42:04,277 --> 00:42:11,097

I, but he was really good in this like,

and kind of an adorable little Yeah,

:

00:42:11,932 --> 00:42:13,102

Shannon: Doesn't overdo it.

:

00:42:13,642 --> 00:42:18,822

Um, but isn't, you know, stiff and,

you know, shouldn't be on screen.

:

00:42:18,982 --> 00:42:19,622

I agree with you.

:

00:42:19,702 --> 00:42:20,862

I thought he did a really good job.

:

00:42:21,122 --> 00:42:22,102

Fun, fun character.

:

00:42:23,967 --> 00:42:24,387

Katie: indeed.

:

00:42:24,887 --> 00:42:25,947

Meadow Cyto.

:

00:42:26,847 --> 00:42:28,467

Meadow cyto.

:

00:42:30,597 --> 00:42:32,567

That doesn't sound right, but it is

:

00:42:32,987 --> 00:42:37,927

She plays Carol and she's, she's

the 16-year-old, uh, daughter

:

00:42:38,467 --> 00:42:40,007

and she's not well known.

:

00:42:40,007 --> 00:42:43,567

However, she is the cyto of Jeremy Cyto.

:

00:42:43,987 --> 00:42:44,407

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

:

00:42:45,227 --> 00:42:46,207

of clueless fame.

:

00:42:47,052 --> 00:42:47,272

Katie: Yes.

:

00:42:47,332 --> 00:42:48,192

Of clueless fame.

:

00:42:48,292 --> 00:42:48,512

Yes.

:

00:42:48,872 --> 00:42:49,972

Shannon: Wilton Elton

:

00:42:51,421 --> 00:42:57,731

Katie: LN Sunshine, Lao plays General

Armando, he's not really well known.

:

00:42:57,791 --> 00:43:01,411

And then we have Paul Anka

playing the yacht dealer.

:

00:43:03,231 --> 00:43:04,291

Shannon: That's who that is.

:

00:43:04,431 --> 00:43:05,251

I'm looking at him and

:

00:43:05,251 --> 00:43:07,251

I'm like, God, who is that guy?

:

00:43:07,391 --> 00:43:08,331

That's tall?

:

00:43:08,441 --> 00:43:08,731

Paul.

:

00:43:09,121 --> 00:43:10,011

Paul Anka.

:

00:43:10,751 --> 00:43:11,891

Is Paul Anka still

:

00:43:11,891 --> 00:43:12,131

with

:

00:43:12,131 --> 00:43:12,251

us?

:

00:43:12,431 --> 00:43:17,251

Katie: know he was, I dunno, I'm not sure.

:

00:43:18,731 --> 00:43:19,471

Shannon: He, yeah.

:

00:43:19,731 --> 00:43:21,551

He was a crooner back in the day.

:

00:43:21,851 --> 00:43:22,511

Had some hits.

:

00:43:22,911 --> 00:43:23,621

Maybe not tall.

:

00:43:23,621 --> 00:43:27,901

Tall Paul, maybe the Shelly Rey song,

tall Paul, or, or maybe it's net ello.

:

00:43:27,901 --> 00:43:31,221

Anyway, it's not about him, but

I, I know he was like famous,

:

00:43:31,801 --> 00:43:32,901

you know, back in the fifties

:

00:43:32,961 --> 00:43:33,821

and sixties, right?

:

00:43:34,171 --> 00:43:34,461

Yeah.

:

00:43:35,531 --> 00:43:35,951

Katie: he was.

:

00:43:36,051 --> 00:43:39,991

And actually, um, little piece of

trivia, when the Harvey's at the

:

00:43:39,991 --> 00:43:41,911

end of the movie, when they pull in.

:

00:43:43,181 --> 00:43:46,551

, like they're about to pull into

Miami and, and Paul Anca is there.

:

00:43:46,821 --> 00:43:52,171

There's one of the boats that is

being stacked is called My Way, which

:

00:43:52,171 --> 00:43:56,491

was actually the name of Paul Anika's,

biggest, one of his biggest hits.

:

00:43:57,091 --> 00:43:58,531

Sung by Frank

:

00:43:58,661 --> 00:43:59,771

Shannon: Frank Sinatra.

:

00:44:00,121 --> 00:44:00,411

Yeah.

:

00:44:01,661 --> 00:44:02,291

Katie: Among others.

:

00:44:02,481 --> 00:44:02,771

Yeah.

:

00:44:03,891 --> 00:44:04,111

Yep.

:

00:44:04,891 --> 00:44:05,951

So that's the cast.

:

00:44:06,781 --> 00:44:14,351

This movie, lost Money , its budget was 24

million with a box office of 22.5 million.

:

00:44:14,491 --> 00:44:15,191

So that's rough.

:

00:44:15,751 --> 00:44:16,041

Shannon: Yeah.

:

00:44:16,704 --> 00:44:21,114

Katie: Overall impressions, favorite

scenes, memories, watching, what do

:

00:44:21,114 --> 00:44:22,354

you We will start us off, Shannon

:

00:44:22,994 --> 00:44:26,604

Shannon: Well, again, my

palette when it comes to movies

:

00:44:26,784 --> 00:44:28,284

has changed since I was 12.

:

00:44:29,224 --> 00:44:30,684

It wasn't as sophisticated.

:

00:44:30,864 --> 00:44:35,204

So this is a movie that we, we

watched over and over, um, at my

:

00:44:35,204 --> 00:44:36,444

grandparents' house when it was on.

:

00:44:37,269 --> 00:44:38,009

One of the show times.

:

00:44:38,169 --> 00:44:44,529

I remember that, uh, LA when I

was watching it, um, again, there

:

00:44:44,549 --> 00:44:48,569

was some laugh out loud moments,

specifically involving Martin Short's,

:

00:44:49,049 --> 00:44:53,249

physical kind of slapstick comedy

where he would fall off the boat and

:

00:44:53,249 --> 00:44:54,929

make some sort of surprise sound.

:

00:44:55,789 --> 00:44:57,649

Um, I did laugh out loud.

:

00:44:57,849 --> 00:45:03,969

I, for whatever reason I thought him

calling Captain Ron Moron was very clever.

:

00:45:04,749 --> 00:45:08,089

Uh, you know, so I laughed

out loud at those, um, scenes.

:

00:45:08,889 --> 00:45:10,169

I mean, I loved Martin Short.

:

00:45:10,489 --> 00:45:12,089

I remember his Saturday Night Live days.

:

00:45:12,169 --> 00:45:16,289

I remember him as, um, ed Grimley

and other movies from the eighties

:

00:45:16,289 --> 00:45:17,529

and nineties that he was in.

:

00:45:18,554 --> 00:45:23,614

And now he's found re renewed fame

in only murders in the building.

:

00:45:24,314 --> 00:45:26,494

Um, and so I do like Martin Short a lot.

:

00:45:26,694 --> 00:45:29,174

I think he's, he's just

a very, very funny man.

:

00:45:29,914 --> 00:45:34,494

Uh, but again, the movie was, I was

like, God, when is this movie gonna end?

:

00:45:34,644 --> 00:45:35,614

It's so long.

:

00:45:36,444 --> 00:45:39,614

It's like the Titanic, you know, I mean

:

00:45:40,324 --> 00:45:42,574

Katie: It's like half,

half the film runtime.

:

00:45:42,634 --> 00:45:44,134

But yeah, it somehow felt

:

00:45:44,234 --> 00:45:47,614

Shannon: Is it come in like a two

box set like the Titanic movie did?

:

00:45:47,614 --> 00:45:54,174

Like it was so, um, again, there were

laugh out loud parts, but is it something

:

00:45:54,174 --> 00:45:55,774

that I would watch over and over?

:

00:45:56,314 --> 00:45:59,534

No, I think that, that, I think

that watching it for this show

:

00:45:59,994 --> 00:46:03,214

was probably the last time I

will see that movie voluntarily,

:

00:46:05,494 --> 00:46:05,714

Katie: Wow.

:

00:46:06,234 --> 00:46:07,594

I think I enjoyed it a little more.

:

00:46:07,874 --> 00:46:09,034

I actually don't recall.

:

00:46:09,914 --> 00:46:13,554

I know I have seen it before,

but as, as we're well aware by

:

00:46:13,554 --> 00:46:14,754

now, Katie has a bad memory.

:

00:46:14,974 --> 00:46:17,754

So it was as if I was watching

it again for the first time.

:

00:46:18,854 --> 00:46:24,844

Uh, I love that it was, the

opening part was set in Chicago.

:

00:46:25,044 --> 00:46:26,884

I love movies set in Chicago.

:

00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:27,899

Shannon: Yep.

:

00:46:29,464 --> 00:46:34,144

Katie: I just, the whole premise is

so like early nineties, like movie

:

00:46:34,144 --> 00:46:40,414

making, but I was in for it in that

like, can you imagine as either an

:

00:46:40,414 --> 00:46:45,534

11-year-old or a 16-year-old, like

a 45 day sailing adventure during

:

00:46:45,634 --> 00:46:47,894

the school year with your family?

:

00:46:48,669 --> 00:46:48,889

Shannon: No.

:

00:46:49,149 --> 00:46:50,129

And they didn't go home.

:

00:46:50,189 --> 00:46:51,089

That's the whole premise.

:

00:46:51,289 --> 00:46:52,049

I mean, I hate, I'm

:

00:46:52,049 --> 00:46:54,529

trying not, not trying to give the

ending away, but they didn't go

:

00:46:54,544 --> 00:46:55,434

Katie: Spoiler alert.

:

00:46:55,974 --> 00:46:56,834

Shannon: School alert.

:

00:46:56,884 --> 00:46:59,274

These kids were not being

put back into school.

:

00:47:00,054 --> 00:47:00,274

Um,

:

00:47:00,654 --> 00:47:02,594

and every, and everybody

lived happily ever after.

:

00:47:03,254 --> 00:47:05,674

But you said this is the

quintessential nineties movie.

:

00:47:05,914 --> 00:47:07,434

I was thinking that exact same thing.

:

00:47:07,464 --> 00:47:12,394

Like the rich aunt or uncle who

nobody knew, didn't have any kids,

:

00:47:12,734 --> 00:47:17,994

leaves, leaves, you know, this,

um, adult person, either a house

:

00:47:18,174 --> 00:47:19,954

or a boat or some sort of fortune.

:

00:47:20,934 --> 00:47:23,514

That's the premise or

setup of, of a lot of

:

00:47:23,514 --> 00:47:24,474

these nineties movies.

:

00:47:25,294 --> 00:47:25,514

And

:

00:47:26,174 --> 00:47:30,034

that's how this one starts off,

um, is how he gets that boat.

:

00:47:30,731 --> 00:47:30,951

Katie: Yes.

:

00:47:31,131 --> 00:47:34,991

And, uh, there, so there are a few, the

type of comedy that it is, there's a

:

00:47:34,991 --> 00:47:38,271

lot of like setups and quick payoffs.

:

00:47:38,611 --> 00:47:38,831

So

:

00:47:39,651 --> 00:47:44,871

at first Martin is telling his wife about

this and she's like, are you kidding?

:

00:47:45,291 --> 00:47:47,511

You know, they're, they're

kind of stuffy people.

:

00:47:47,661 --> 00:47:52,391

Like they're upper middle class

suburban Chicago, like they both

:

00:47:52,421 --> 00:47:55,871

have careers and she's like that.

:

00:47:56,091 --> 00:47:56,311

No.

:

00:47:56,681 --> 00:47:59,471

First of all, we'll be

spontaneous when we have time.

:

00:47:59,611 --> 00:48:01,991

So that's like the type of

people that, that they are.

:

00:48:02,371 --> 00:48:09,431

And then they, it's set up for us that

nothing that anybody does or says will

:

00:48:09,431 --> 00:48:16,801

change my mind in walks the 16-year-old

daughter, I'm engaged and then cut

:

00:48:16,901 --> 00:48:23,881

to like, that's the thing, cut to

them in Saint Palmier, Saint Potato.

:

00:48:24,881 --> 00:48:29,251

Shannon: Potato Yep.

:

00:48:29,822 --> 00:48:30,962

Katie: And the the boat.

:

00:48:32,342 --> 00:48:37,162

So obviously it's not the picture that

he received, it's like super rundown.

:

00:48:38,102 --> 00:48:42,802

And over the course of their adventure,

of course they're fixing it up,

:

00:48:42,802 --> 00:48:45,002

polishing it up, making it look nice.

:

00:48:45,382 --> 00:48:50,082

And I don't think, obviously I

don't know anything about boats,

:

00:48:50,222 --> 00:48:54,482

but it seems like it's two separate

boats, even in the style of boat.

:

00:48:54,792 --> 00:48:58,602

Like the first one looked like

a tugboat, not a sailboat.

:

00:48:59,302 --> 00:49:00,402

Did you have that thought at all?

:

00:49:00,432 --> 00:49:02,442

Like that the boats didn't

even seem like the same type.

:

00:49:03,862 --> 00:49:06,662

Shannon: Absolutely when she holds

up the picture and she, you know, of

:

00:49:06,662 --> 00:49:08,382

course that's the comedic element.

:

00:49:08,512 --> 00:49:09,222

She's looking at

:

00:49:09,222 --> 00:49:12,102

the picture and then she's looking

at the boat and it's not, you're

:

00:49:12,102 --> 00:49:13,462

right, it looked like a tugboat.

:

00:49:13,462 --> 00:49:15,342

It looked like a tugboat

that's seen better days.

:

00:49:15,842 --> 00:49:16,422

Uh, I think

:

00:49:16,422 --> 00:49:19,742

it's also important to mention that this

boat was from the Clark Gable Estate.

:

00:49:20,442 --> 00:49:20,662

Um,

:

00:49:21,402 --> 00:49:25,382

and so, yeah, and so that's why the

family thought, oh, this is going

:

00:49:25,382 --> 00:49:29,342

to be our, our money shot, so to

speak, soon as we can sell this boat

:

00:49:29,402 --> 00:49:33,462

and pay off debt and get out from

under our house and things like that.

:

00:49:33,962 --> 00:49:38,662

Um, so of course again, the

nineties comedy is that it's

:

00:49:38,682 --> 00:49:41,742

not a beautiful sailboat that

they're gonna be able to sell.

:

00:49:42,052 --> 00:49:43,062

It's a piece of junk.

:

00:49:44,722 --> 00:49:51,062

Katie: It is, and I forgot to offer

a reminder description for those

:

00:49:51,062 --> 00:49:54,792

of you who haven't seen this in 30

years, so I will quickly do that now.

:

00:49:55,602 --> 00:49:59,167

When Martin and Catherine Harvey

and their two children, Carolyn and

:

00:49:59,267 --> 00:50:03,807

Ben, inherit a yacht, formerly owned

by Clark Gable, they embark on a

:

00:50:03,807 --> 00:50:07,887

hilarious oceanic adventure sailing

through the waters of the Caribbean.

:

00:50:08,237 --> 00:50:13,687

With help from the dubious, yet charming

Captain Ron, who leads them into some

:

00:50:13,887 --> 00:50:19,887

outrageously wild situations, their

lives will never be the same again.

:

00:50:21,031 --> 00:50:23,611

So it, it's situation after

situation after situation.

:

00:50:23,611 --> 00:50:25,131

And I think that's why it felt long,

:

00:50:26,221 --> 00:50:26,441

Shannon: Yes.

:

00:50:26,561 --> 00:50:30,391

A lot of, yes, very situational,

uh, situational comedy attempts.

:

00:50:30,924 --> 00:50:31,344

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

:

00:50:32,114 --> 00:50:36,784

I do quite like, so Ron, captain Ron.

:

00:50:37,974 --> 00:50:41,674

So, like I said there, I do appreciate

the little payoffs that he does,

:

00:50:42,374 --> 00:50:45,394

and I appreciate that he allows

himself, like he doesn't have a,

:

00:50:45,454 --> 00:50:49,594

an ego so big that he won't allow

himself to be seen in a silly way.

:

00:50:50,224 --> 00:50:51,434

Like, he doesn't look good.

:

00:50:51,434 --> 00:50:52,554

He wears a speedo.

:

00:50:53,874 --> 00:50:55,614

Uh, nobody looks good in a speedo.

:

00:50:55,934 --> 00:50:59,854

Everyone out there no one, no one

looks good in ESP Speedo, I swear.

:

00:51:00,594 --> 00:51:04,734

But, um, he gives them, he's very quirky.

:

00:51:05,394 --> 00:51:08,974

He immediately meets the family

and gives them a different

:

00:51:09,214 --> 00:51:10,854

nickname than what their name is.

:

00:51:11,114 --> 00:51:13,694

So Marty is boss.

:

00:51:15,084 --> 00:51:20,244

Catherine is immediately Kitty,

the daughter is somehow babe,

:

00:51:20,434 --> 00:51:21,404

that must've been a thing.

:

00:51:22,484 --> 00:51:27,834

And the little boy is swab,

which is a sailor term, right?

:

00:51:29,114 --> 00:51:30,604

Like a low man on the totem

:

00:51:30,684 --> 00:51:31,414

Shannon: Swab the deck.

:

00:51:31,604 --> 00:51:31,894

Yeah.

:

00:51:31,924 --> 00:51:32,654

That it's in

:

00:51:32,854 --> 00:51:34,494

reference to you swab the deck here.

:

00:51:34,494 --> 00:51:34,734

Yeah.

:

00:51:35,521 --> 00:51:38,861

But you said, you know, one thing

stood out, you said dubious character

:

00:51:38,921 --> 00:51:44,461

and, and I, I think that was the

intention of the director writers to

:

00:51:44,461 --> 00:51:48,661

present this, to present Captain Ron as

somebody that maybe can't be trusted.

:

00:51:49,021 --> 00:51:50,141

I never got that during the movie.

:

00:51:50,301 --> 00:51:51,821

I find him to be very likable.

:

00:51:52,381 --> 00:51:55,901

I find Martin Schwartz character to

be insecure and jealous, which is,

:

00:51:56,321 --> 00:51:57,741

you know, part of the plot line.

:

00:51:58,241 --> 00:52:00,701

Um, and that's why he is

building up resentment and

:

00:52:00,901 --> 00:52:02,021

animosity towards Captain Ron.

:

00:52:02,481 --> 00:52:06,861

But I did not think at

any point was he there to.

:

00:52:07,751 --> 00:52:12,011

Insert himself into this family

unit as the father, as the,

:

00:52:12,551 --> 00:52:15,811

the captain of the ship and was

gonna go home with the family.

:

00:52:15,951 --> 00:52:18,811

And, you know, Martin, the

father could stay in St.

:

00:52:18,811 --> 00:52:19,211

Potato.

:

00:52:19,791 --> 00:52:24,851

Um, so that's where I, I never found

him to be a questionable character

:

00:52:24,851 --> 00:52:26,171

that anybody should be wary of.

:

00:52:27,911 --> 00:52:28,401

Just kind

:

00:52:28,561 --> 00:52:29,401

of a goofy ad

:

00:52:29,491 --> 00:52:33,011

Katie: And I He is, but he gets them lost.

:

00:52:33,311 --> 00:52:39,011

He doesn't like there, it's questionable

in the eyes of Martin as he writes in his

:

00:52:39,541 --> 00:52:42,331

diary, so to, you're absolutely right.

:

00:52:42,401 --> 00:52:43,851

It's very in that way.

:

00:52:44,641 --> 00:52:47,331

Like, what about Bob esque?

:

00:52:47,801 --> 00:52:48,091

Like

:

00:52:48,971 --> 00:52:50,391

Shannon: The unreliable, yes.

:

00:52:50,491 --> 00:52:51,911

The unreliable narrator.

:

00:52:52,451 --> 00:52:53,151

Um, Dr.

:

00:52:53,251 --> 00:52:57,031

Leo Marvin is an unreliable narrator

because of how he feels about Bob.

:

00:52:57,031 --> 00:53:01,191

And that's, you're very right that

we're getting Martin's perspective.

:

00:53:01,931 --> 00:53:02,151

Um,

:

00:53:02,691 --> 00:53:04,271

so it's, it's somewhat unreliable.

:

00:53:06,091 --> 00:53:06,311

Katie: yes.

:

00:53:06,691 --> 00:53:12,351

But, but in a sim, like there's a series

of mishaps that either shows Martin in

:

00:53:12,351 --> 00:53:16,511

a bad way or hurts Martin, but the rest

of the family isn't seeing, they're

:

00:53:16,511 --> 00:53:19,031

just, they're more endeared each time.

:

00:53:20,831 --> 00:53:22,011

To Captain Ron.

:

00:53:22,831 --> 00:53:27,331

Um, and like, yeah, so Marty

Martin is getting jealous.

:

00:53:27,521 --> 00:53:32,181

Like, oh, he is in a speedo

standing behind his wife, like

:

00:53:32,501 --> 00:53:34,061

teaching her to, to drive the boat.

:

00:53:34,361 --> 00:53:42,141

And, you know, the, the sun when they

get to San Juan is, it's like all of

:

00:53:42,141 --> 00:53:48,501

Captain Ron has rubbed off on Ben because

he shows up to that carnival party and

:

00:53:48,501 --> 00:53:50,941

looking like a mini me or mini Ron.

:

00:53:51,641 --> 00:53:54,621

So it's, I just, I was like,

this is very, what about Bobby?

:

00:53:55,481 --> 00:54:00,021

But then what, what is quite lovely

about the movie, they just, it

:

00:54:00,021 --> 00:54:01,021

needed to be a little tighter.

:

00:54:01,241 --> 00:54:02,501

Is that, that's paid off

:

00:54:03,441 --> 00:54:08,941

Ron, captain Ron does do the right

thing in seeing that that's what

:

00:54:08,941 --> 00:54:11,021

he was unintentionally doing.

:

00:54:11,841 --> 00:54:16,811

And then he helps Martin become

the hero at, you know, in the end.

:

00:54:17,071 --> 00:54:17,291

So.

:

00:54:18,621 --> 00:54:20,001

Shannon: And you're

absolutely right about that.

:

00:54:20,061 --> 00:54:20,481

Mm-Hmm.

:

00:54:21,164 --> 00:54:21,384

He

:

00:54:21,384 --> 00:54:21,544

does.

:

00:54:21,574 --> 00:54:21,864

Yeah.

:

00:54:21,924 --> 00:54:22,344

He helps.

:

00:54:22,414 --> 00:54:25,944

Yeah, he helps his family and, and Martin

to see himself, I think more so Martin,

:

00:54:25,964 --> 00:54:27,104

to see himself in a different light.

:

00:54:27,104 --> 00:54:30,864

Maybe not his family, but Martin

just is, um, given the confident,

:

00:54:30,884 --> 00:54:34,664

the ability to be confident because

Captain Ron allows him to be.

:

00:54:34,724 --> 00:54:35,144

Mm-Hmm.

:

00:54:36,774 --> 00:54:36,994

Katie: yes.

:

00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:40,794

And over the course, I mean, again,

this is very typical of this type of a

:

00:54:40,794 --> 00:54:42,394

movie, but there's all these mishaps.

:

00:54:42,394 --> 00:54:46,074

It's not what they thought it was gonna

be, who there's this wild and crazy guy.

:

00:54:47,274 --> 00:54:52,054

But over the course of their adventure,

they do learn how to sail properly,

:

00:54:52,304 --> 00:54:58,134

which pays off momentarily when they

have to get away from the pirates

:

00:54:58,134 --> 00:54:59,894

or their, their ship is stolen.

:

00:55:00,634 --> 00:55:01,534

So Ron is right.

:

00:55:01,594 --> 00:55:06,214

He keeps saying like, oh, pirates of

the Caribbean, Martin's, like, there's

:

00:55:06,214 --> 00:55:10,414

no such thing cut too, their boat

being stolen and they're on a raft.

:

00:55:11,234 --> 00:55:12,264

Stand up in Cuba.

:

00:55:14,169 --> 00:55:17,334

So that's, then their boat happens to

also be there, so they steal it back

:

00:55:17,914 --> 00:55:22,854

and Captain Ron helps them do that in

a 57 Chevy, which was pretty awesome.

:

00:55:23,394 --> 00:55:28,634

I love the, the old cars from, you know,

in Cuba 'cause of the embargo and stuff.

:

00:55:29,214 --> 00:55:33,154

, but then Martin forgets to put

oil in the boat so the engine dies

:

00:55:33,154 --> 00:55:37,754

and they actually have to, to get

away, use their sailing skills.

:

00:55:38,014 --> 00:55:42,004

And at this time Ron has faked an injury.

:

00:55:42,184 --> 00:55:45,284

He tells them that he broke

his leg, so he can't help.

:

00:55:45,584 --> 00:55:47,124

Martin has to save the day.

:

00:55:47,504 --> 00:55:48,324

And he does.

:

00:55:49,554 --> 00:55:56,384

Meanwhile, I mean, yeah, I mean he

does, but also Ron does secretly

:

00:55:56,574 --> 00:56:00,504

call, , for help , and he's like,

Mayday mayday to the Coast Guard.

:

00:56:01,424 --> 00:56:05,594

Shannon: That ending speaking of, was

very reminiscent of overboard with the

:

00:56:05,594 --> 00:56:08,034

Coast Guard coming and, and, you know,

:

00:56:08,864 --> 00:56:09,084

Katie: Yes.

:

00:56:11,184 --> 00:56:14,434

Shannon: soon see gold jumping

overboard in her gold dress.

:

00:56:17,934 --> 00:56:18,494

Katie: Katerina.

:

00:56:20,094 --> 00:56:20,314

Yep.

:

00:56:21,434 --> 00:56:24,134

Shannon: It, there was some

me images going on with that

:

00:56:24,134 --> 00:56:24,414

ending.

:

00:56:24,634 --> 00:56:26,254

Um, but it was, yeah, it did end.

:

00:56:26,254 --> 00:56:27,214

There was a payoff.

:

00:56:28,644 --> 00:56:30,834

Katie: There was a, this

is one of those movies.

:

00:56:32,454 --> 00:56:33,264

What was the other one?

:

00:56:33,264 --> 00:56:38,284

It's where it reminiscent, um, I

wanna say Backdraft, where the ending,

:

00:56:38,624 --> 00:56:40,924

it was like a series of endings.

:

00:56:41,024 --> 00:56:44,084

Not just one ending, but it was

like, oh, we thought we got the end.

:

00:56:44,104 --> 00:56:45,124

Oh, we thought we got the end.

:

00:56:45,144 --> 00:56:48,604

Oh, we thought I might be thinking

of the wrong movie, but I know I've

:

00:56:48,604 --> 00:56:49,644

covered another movie like that.

:

00:56:49,744 --> 00:56:50,164

So, yeah.

:

00:56:50,344 --> 00:56:57,404

So then there's this heartfelt

goodbye to Captain Ron.

:

00:56:57,424 --> 00:57:00,844

He can finally come back to the US

because of the statute of limitations

:

00:57:01,024 --> 00:57:05,164

has expired for, you know, whatever

he has done in the US up until then.

:

00:57:06,604 --> 00:57:07,734

Then he disappears.

:

00:57:08,614 --> 00:57:12,404

Then we see the family, or no.

:

00:57:12,404 --> 00:57:13,764

First we see Captain Ron.

:

00:57:13,774 --> 00:57:14,124

Right

:

00:57:14,644 --> 00:57:15,064

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

:

00:57:15,214 --> 00:57:19,024

Katie: now he's with a new couple, right?

:

00:57:19,694 --> 00:57:23,824

Shannon: very and very Miami

esque in his ponytail and his

:

00:57:23,824 --> 00:57:26,784

Miami vice suit that he has on.

:

00:57:27,334 --> 00:57:27,624

Yeah.

:

00:57:27,924 --> 00:57:32,864

Within within hours, he's embraced

the Miami Vice Miami vibe and has

:

00:57:32,864 --> 00:57:34,784

found this new couple, I mean,

it's literally within hours.

:

00:57:37,404 --> 00:57:37,694

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:57:37,854 --> 00:57:41,454

I , I don't, I guess I hadn't put it

together that this is supposed to be the

:

00:57:41,454 --> 00:57:43,494

same day, or, or if this is meant to be.

:

00:57:45,014 --> 00:57:45,454

I don't know.

:

00:57:45,574 --> 00:57:46,174

Either way.

:

00:57:46,174 --> 00:57:46,574

You're right.

:

00:57:46,804 --> 00:57:51,574

He's cleaned up at, at least we,

he's not, he's cleaned up his look.

:

00:57:51,574 --> 00:57:52,814

He doesn't have the eye patch anymore.

:

00:57:52,874 --> 00:57:53,774

He just has sunglasses.

:

00:57:53,954 --> 00:57:54,814

He looks nicer,

:

00:57:55,754 --> 00:57:56,174

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

:

00:57:56,214 --> 00:57:59,174

Katie: he starts in, it's kind

of cute because we see him

:

00:58:00,049 --> 00:58:03,519

Doing the same things that

we saw him do when he first

:

00:58:03,729 --> 00:58:05,399

first meets the Harvey family.

:

00:58:06,179 --> 00:58:10,279

He like, um, the husband says

something like, oh, Barbara, do

:

00:58:10,279 --> 00:58:11,959

you think we'll be able to do that?

:

00:58:12,099 --> 00:58:15,759

One day, Ron, captain Ron meets

her and he is like, Hey, Babs.

:

00:58:16,139 --> 00:58:18,679

You know, so he immediately

does the nickname

:

00:58:19,174 --> 00:58:19,414

Shannon: nickname.

:

00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:25,569

Katie: Then the family, to your point

earlier, they're pulling into Miami

:

00:58:27,489 --> 00:58:29,749

and they're like, how about we don't,

:

00:58:30,564 --> 00:58:30,854

Shannon: Yeah.

:

00:58:32,949 --> 00:58:35,209

Katie: we, they're just continuing

their adventure forever.

:

00:58:36,279 --> 00:58:39,199

Shannon: I guess so their

children's education be damned,

:

00:58:39,339 --> 00:58:40,479

but also they have jobs.

:

00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:41,639

I mean, I don't,

:

00:58:42,359 --> 00:58:45,159

get the sense that they were, yeah,

they've gotta have, they're not

:

00:58:45,439 --> 00:58:50,359

independently wealthy in the fact that

part of the first, uh, scene of the

:

00:58:50,359 --> 00:58:53,159

movie is, oh, we can sell this boat

and pay off the credit card bills and

:

00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:54,519

get out from under the second mortgage.

:

00:58:54,979 --> 00:58:58,679

So that gives me the impression

that these PE are not people

:

00:58:58,699 --> 00:59:00,799

who have a nest egg and can live

:

00:59:02,454 --> 00:59:02,654

Katie: No,

:

00:59:02,739 --> 00:59:03,999

Shannon: on a boat not working.

:

00:59:04,459 --> 00:59:06,679

And remote work is not a thing yet.

:

00:59:07,279 --> 00:59:07,439

Audience.

:

00:59:07,739 --> 00:59:13,079

Um, so they're not, they're not

spending time on a computer down below

:

00:59:13,789 --> 00:59:16,039

four hours a day, seven days a week.

:

00:59:16,339 --> 00:59:19,639

Uh, so yeah, so there, there

was some inconsistencies in

:

00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:23,319

the ending, but whatever, you

know, it's, it, it ended happy.

:

00:59:25,004 --> 00:59:29,094

Katie: It's a great, to that point,

I actually, so I'm not usually

:

00:59:29,204 --> 00:59:34,214

like all in favor of a sequel,

but it was a great movie ending.

:

00:59:35,114 --> 00:59:38,454

But I think what we needed

was a sequel to this.

:

00:59:38,484 --> 00:59:41,374

Obviously it lost money, so

that's why they didn't, but I'd

:

00:59:41,374 --> 00:59:45,494

really like to see what they're

up to now as well as Captain Ron.

:

00:59:45,514 --> 00:59:48,854

Do they somehow run into each other

and get up to more adventure together?

:

00:59:48,884 --> 00:59:52,534

Like I wanna see what the six

months later picture looks like.

:

00:59:54,459 --> 00:59:54,749

Shannon: Yeah.

:

00:59:54,849 --> 00:59:59,069

You know, maybe Captain Ron is being

pursued by the Cuban militia and now

:

00:59:59,209 --> 01:00:01,669

the Harvey family has to save him.

:

01:00:01,729 --> 01:00:03,189

And Hi, jinx and Sue.

:

01:00:03,889 --> 01:00:05,749

Um, Katie.

:

01:00:05,779 --> 01:00:09,189

Well, there, there's our opening,

there's a, there's our opening for

:

01:00:09,434 --> 01:00:10,264

Katie: Start writing it.

:

01:00:10,264 --> 01:00:10,544

Shannon.

:

01:00:10,674 --> 01:00:11,624

Let's get this down.

:

01:00:12,644 --> 01:00:13,784

Hey, studio execs.

:

01:00:13,784 --> 01:00:16,024

Do you remember that movie

from:

:

01:00:16,334 --> 01:00:18,144

Well, we've got a sequel to it.

:

01:00:21,874 --> 01:00:26,174

Shannon: We are gonna totally

redeem all of you and make this the

:

01:00:26,174 --> 01:00:27,734

blockbuster that you anticipated

:

01:00:28,784 --> 01:00:29,004

Katie: Yep.

:

01:00:30,014 --> 01:00:30,784

Shannon: It's like if somebody

:

01:00:30,784 --> 01:00:32,224

wrote a sequel to Titanic.

:

01:00:33,464 --> 01:00:33,754

Katie: yeah.

:

01:00:36,384 --> 01:00:41,834

, well, I don't about that, but

it, it was actually filmed in

:

01:00:41,834 --> 01:00:44,834

Puerto Rico and Chicago, and

I do appreciate those touches.

:

01:00:45,294 --> 01:00:46,514

That's probably why it costs money,

:

01:00:47,164 --> 01:00:47,584

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

:

01:00:47,664 --> 01:00:49,114

Katie: like cost 24 million, but.

:

01:00:51,584 --> 01:00:58,184

The film had, so Captain Ron was not its

original title originally it was Martin

:

01:00:58,184 --> 01:01:00,704

Harvey takes a cruise, which is awful.

:

01:01:01,324 --> 01:01:02,624

So that's terrible.

:

01:01:03,334 --> 01:01:07,544

Then don't rock the boat,

which would've been okay.

:

01:01:08,204 --> 01:01:15,784

And the then also on the wanderer before

it was finally released as Captain Ron.

:

01:01:15,804 --> 01:01:16,224

Mm-Hmm.

:

01:01:17,284 --> 01:01:18,374

Shannon: they made the right choice.

:

01:01:19,631 --> 01:01:20,111

Katie: I agree.

:

01:01:20,421 --> 01:01:27,221

Shannon, did you know that this

was the third, this is one of,

:

01:01:27,241 --> 01:01:32,141

it wasn't the third one of three

movies where Kurt Russell Dawns and

:

01:01:32,261 --> 01:01:33,941

Eye Patch, were you aware of that?

:

01:01:35,451 --> 01:01:36,491

Shannon: I was not aware of that.

:

01:01:36,681 --> 01:01:37,771

What were the other two?

:

01:01:40,251 --> 01:01:43,351

Katie: Escape From New York,

which is a pretty famous movie

:

01:01:43,931 --> 01:01:44,351

and his.

:

01:01:45,281 --> 01:01:46,251

Then it's sequel.

:

01:01:46,511 --> 01:01:49,131

So that was from:

escape from New York.

:

01:01:49,551 --> 01:01:51,971

He and his character's

name is Snake Polskin.

:

01:01:52,591 --> 01:02:00,221

He reprises his role as Snake Polskin

in the sequel from 96 Escape from LA and

:

01:02:00,251 --> 01:02:01,011

Shannon: do remember those movies.

:

01:02:01,621 --> 01:02:03,491

Never saw them, but I do remember them.

:

01:02:03,611 --> 01:02:03,891

I did.

:

01:02:04,051 --> 01:02:06,051

I did not know he wore an eye patch.

:

01:02:07,356 --> 01:02:10,456

And what's, I think when you asked

me earlier like, you know what I

:

01:02:10,456 --> 01:02:12,896

thought about this movie and I was

talking about laugh Out loud moments.

:

01:02:13,436 --> 01:02:16,976

The first time I laughed out loud

in watching this movie, um, again,

:

01:02:17,116 --> 01:02:23,016

was when he's sleeping and he

had moved the iPad, so it's his,

:

01:02:23,211 --> 01:02:23,431

Katie: Yes.

:

01:02:26,596 --> 01:02:27,296

Shannon: and so

:

01:02:27,301 --> 01:02:27,861

Katie: he's dead

:

01:02:28,656 --> 01:02:28,946

Shannon: he's

:

01:02:29,181 --> 01:02:30,671

Katie: because his glass eye.

:

01:02:32,476 --> 01:02:37,296

Shannon: But as a child, I remember

thinking that the joke was that he

:

01:02:37,296 --> 01:02:42,396

slept with his eyes open, thinking

about the glass eye He was like,

:

01:02:42,496 --> 01:02:43,556

he slept with his eyes open.

:

01:02:43,616 --> 01:02:44,956

And that's the joke, you know,

:

01:02:47,111 --> 01:02:47,331

Katie: No.

:

01:02:47,921 --> 01:02:52,411

Also, I did quite enjoy the shower

scene that they get stuck in the

:

01:02:52,411 --> 01:02:52,651

shower

:

01:02:52,816 --> 01:02:54,496

Shannon: yeah, that's a little bit racy.

:

01:02:54,546 --> 01:02:55,256

There was some

:

01:02:55,291 --> 01:02:55,451

Katie: cute.

:

01:02:55,616 --> 01:02:57,336

Shannon: in That If you

look close, there was

:

01:02:57,336 --> 01:02:57,856

some nudity.

:

01:02:58,261 --> 01:02:58,541

Katie: nudity.

:

01:02:59,096 --> 01:02:59,386

Shannon: Yeah,

:

01:02:59,561 --> 01:02:59,851

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:02:59,911 --> 01:03:00,651

What's her face?

:

01:03:00,921 --> 01:03:01,211

Yeah.

:

01:03:01,606 --> 01:03:02,066

Shannon: she, yeah.

:

01:03:02,126 --> 01:03:03,226

And I'm like, what is this?

:

01:03:03,246 --> 01:03:03,906

Is this pg?

:

01:03:03,906 --> 01:03:05,026

Or, but you said PG 13.

:

01:03:05,126 --> 01:03:05,346

So.

:

01:03:07,051 --> 01:03:07,271

Katie: Yep.

:

01:03:07,691 --> 01:03:07,911

PG

:

01:03:08,086 --> 01:03:09,106

Shannon: it was not overt.

:

01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:10,386

Um, but it was there.

:

01:03:10,416 --> 01:03:11,946

That was a funny scene though as well.

:

01:03:12,646 --> 01:03:15,546

Martin Short does slapstick

physical comedy pretty well.

:

01:03:15,586 --> 01:03:18,506

I think that goes back to

his, like at Grimly Days.

:

01:03:20,024 --> 01:03:24,764

Katie: He, he does, and it, he was

pretty big at this time, right?

:

01:03:24,764 --> 01:03:29,524

This was his, like late eighties, early

nineties, was at Martin Short's time

:

01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:30,679

Shannon: I think so.

:

01:03:30,759 --> 01:03:35,399

I mean, he wasn't on Saturday Night

Live anymore, um, because he, he

:

01:03:35,399 --> 01:03:36,799

did a stint on Saturday Night Live.

:

01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:37,038

Right?

:

01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:37,679

I, yeah.

:

01:03:39,304 --> 01:03:39,663

Katie: I think so.

:

01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:40,809

Shannon: Yeah.

:

01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:44,729

Um, but he also did a movie,

and I don't know if you've ever

:

01:03:44,729 --> 01:03:47,769

seen it, but I think it's around

this time, um, called Clifford.

:

01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:51,329

Have you ever seen that movie

where he plays a 12-year-old boy?

:

01:03:53,219 --> 01:03:54,139

I, I encourage

:

01:03:54,139 --> 01:03:54,579

you to watch that

:

01:03:54,663 --> 01:03:54,954

Katie: that

:

01:03:55,174 --> 01:03:56,074

sounds familiar.

:

01:03:56,334 --> 01:03:57,194

It sounds familiar.

:

01:03:57,334 --> 01:03:57,754

Mm-Hmm.

:

01:03:57,999 --> 01:03:58,288

Shannon: Yeah.

:

01:03:58,524 --> 01:03:59,184

Katie: But I don't,

:

01:03:59,479 --> 01:04:01,609

Shannon: Charles Groden is in it.

:

01:04:01,788 --> 01:04:05,369

He plays, he plays his uncle

and Mary Steenburgen is in it.

:

01:04:05,709 --> 01:04:05,929

Um,

:

01:04:06,894 --> 01:04:07,274

Katie: Oh, I

:

01:04:07,389 --> 01:04:08,649

Shannon: is it, yeah.

:

01:04:08,939 --> 01:04:12,569

Again, one of those movies that

when I was like 11, 12 would've

:

01:04:12,569 --> 01:04:14,329

watched over and over as an adult.

:

01:04:14,389 --> 01:04:16,449

I'm curious to see how

I would react to it.

:

01:04:16,469 --> 01:04:19,529

So maybe I need to pop that, find

that video cassette somewhere

:

01:04:19,529 --> 01:04:21,209

around here and pop it into the vcr.

:

01:04:21,744 --> 01:04:26,224

Katie: I . I bet it's not as great as you

remember that, that that happens a lot.

:

01:04:27,229 --> 01:04:27,519

Shannon: yeah.

:

01:04:27,904 --> 01:04:32,284

Katie: One of the things that I found

fascinating get this, according to John

:

01:04:32,334 --> 01:04:34,364

Dwyer, one of the movie's, screenwriters.

:

01:04:35,288 --> 01:04:40,788

Martin Short was originally cast

as Captain Ron and Kurt Russell was

:

01:04:40,949 --> 01:04:42,149

supposed to play the family man.

:

01:04:42,849 --> 01:04:47,869

But this again, this is according to

John Dwyer short, and Russell got drunk

:

01:04:47,889 --> 01:04:49,469

one night and decided to switch roles.

:

01:04:49,869 --> 01:04:53,509

I don't know how true that is,

but i's what John Dwyer said.

:

01:04:54,284 --> 01:04:54,504

Shannon: It

:

01:04:54,504 --> 01:04:56,064

would've been a, yeah.

:

01:04:56,074 --> 01:04:57,424

Completely different movie.

:

01:04:57,704 --> 01:05:01,024

'cause I don't feel like Morton

Short has any sex appeal whatsoever.

:

01:05:01,163 --> 01:05:02,384

And that was part of the

:

01:05:02,454 --> 01:05:04,504

storyline of Captain Ron

:

01:05:04,509 --> 01:05:04,799

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:05,319

Yeah.

:

01:05:05,904 --> 01:05:07,304

Shannon: I mean, a big

part of the storyline.

:

01:05:07,804 --> 01:05:08,784

It would've been highly

:

01:05:09,264 --> 01:05:09,704

unbelievable.

:

01:05:10,634 --> 01:05:10,924

Yeah.

:

01:05:12,834 --> 01:05:14,364

Clarice, or whatever her name is,

:

01:05:14,904 --> 01:05:16,324

It would've been a very different movie.

:

01:05:16,464 --> 01:05:21,244

And, and I, I know I, they would've really

have had to pull out, put out their acting

:

01:05:21,374 --> 01:05:23,524

chops to make people believe that I.

:

01:05:23,649 --> 01:05:29,554

Martin Short was the, the stud

and Kurt Russell was the, you, you

:

01:05:29,554 --> 01:05:31,994

know, the mild mannered

suburbanite, husband

:

01:05:33,269 --> 01:05:33,559

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:05:35,129 --> 01:05:39,859

Also, um, what we talked about on the

show actually is, so Kurt Russell and

:

01:05:39,969 --> 01:05:43,699

John Carpenter, the director, John

Carpenter, they have one of those

:

01:05:43,699 --> 01:05:47,339

relationships like a De Niro, Scorsese,

you know, they do a lot of movies

:

01:05:48,044 --> 01:05:48,464

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

:

01:05:49,038 --> 01:05:53,224

Katie: Well, when Kurt Russell was

cast to do this, apparently John

:

01:05:53,224 --> 01:05:58,609

Carpenter was nearly called into direct,

um, because he really likes Kurt.

:

01:05:58,949 --> 01:06:03,769

But he admits that he would've said yes,

but mostly just to shoot in the Caribbean.

:

01:06:03,839 --> 01:06:05,889

Like he had no interest in

making the movie other than

:

01:06:05,889 --> 01:06:07,689

that . But he did not direct

:

01:06:09,954 --> 01:06:10,194

Shannon: Interesting.

:

01:06:10,404 --> 01:06:11,634

Again, a very different movie.

:

01:06:11,774 --> 01:06:12,034

I'm sure.

:

01:06:13,439 --> 01:06:15,579

Katie: It would've been, I wonder, yeah.

:

01:06:15,959 --> 01:06:18,538

Now I wonder if, I wonder

:

01:06:18,538 --> 01:06:19,569

Shannon: Maybe more action.

:

01:06:19,799 --> 01:06:20,089

More.

:

01:06:20,089 --> 01:06:20,329

Yeah.

:

01:06:20,329 --> 01:06:21,169

It could have been, there

:

01:06:21,169 --> 01:06:23,729

might have been more action, um, in the

:

01:06:23,799 --> 01:06:24,969

Katie: Well, there was a lot of action.

:

01:06:24,989 --> 01:06:26,449

It was like boom, boom, boom.

:

01:06:27,249 --> 01:06:27,538

Shannon: yeah.

:

01:06:27,769 --> 01:06:28,059

Yeah.

:

01:06:28,139 --> 01:06:28,538

I mean, when

:

01:06:28,538 --> 01:06:31,819

you got, when you finally got to the

part where they were hijacked by the

:

01:06:31,849 --> 01:06:34,459

pirates or the, um, the gorillas.

:

01:06:35,038 --> 01:06:41,029

Uh, but I guess, yeah, um, as far,

I, I just feel like maybe there

:

01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:45,349

would've been more chase scenes or

things like that if, if Carpenter had

:

01:06:45,629 --> 01:06:46,709

directed it, but I could be wrong.

:

01:06:48,434 --> 01:06:52,694

Katie: No, that's a good point that

speaking of the gorillas, I freaking

:

01:06:53,099 --> 01:06:53,179

Shannon: actually

:

01:06:53,224 --> 01:06:53,974

Katie: loved that.

:

01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:56,179

Shannon: that's the funny

:

01:06:56,234 --> 01:06:59,884

Katie: It's not gorillas, gorillas.

:

01:07:01,794 --> 01:07:03,884

It's like, hey, uh,

stay on the path there.

:

01:07:03,934 --> 01:07:05,764

Watch out for the, watch

out for the gorillas.

:

01:07:05,934 --> 01:07:09,584

There are no gorillas in the Caribbean.

:

01:07:10,454 --> 01:07:10,744

Okay.

:

01:07:13,024 --> 01:07:16,284

Shannon: He could have said,

freedom fighters, not gorillas.

:

01:07:17,154 --> 01:07:18,054

So that was, that

:

01:07:18,054 --> 01:07:18,814

was another, that.

:

01:07:18,814 --> 01:07:20,413

was another .Yeah.

:

01:07:20,644 --> 01:07:21,094

Gags a

:

01:07:21,094 --> 01:07:21,694

lot of gags.

:

01:07:22,114 --> 01:07:22,534

Mm-Hmm.

:

01:07:23,494 --> 01:07:25,764

Which I feel like Martin

Short is known for.

:

01:07:27,774 --> 01:07:28,264

Katie: Good point.

:

01:07:29,244 --> 01:07:29,534

Shannon: Yeah.

:

01:07:29,659 --> 01:07:35,869

Katie: Another little bit of trivia

is, I don't know if I would've noticed

:

01:07:36,009 --> 01:07:38,349

it had I not read this in advance.

:

01:07:38,409 --> 01:07:44,029

So I'm curious if you, so if you

did, there are two points in which

:

01:07:44,299 --> 01:07:45,909

Captain Ron is driving a car.

:

01:07:45,909 --> 01:07:52,029

He pulls up in that yellow car that

ends up going into the ocean, and

:

01:07:52,029 --> 01:07:56,189

then when they're in Cuba and he's

driving the red 57 Chevy, right.

:

01:07:56,504 --> 01:07:56,854

Shannon: Right.

:

01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:02,479

Katie: Both of those cars have the

left headlight out, which is the

:

01:08:02,479 --> 01:08:05,079

same eye that he has as a patch.

:

01:08:05,899 --> 01:08:06,119

Did

:

01:08:06,184 --> 01:08:07,004

Shannon: Didn't notice it.

:

01:08:07,504 --> 01:08:07,724

No.

:

01:08:08,859 --> 01:08:08,979

Katie: I,

:

01:08:09,538 --> 01:08:09,979

I wouldn't.

:

01:08:10,139 --> 01:08:13,219

I did because I had read that in

advance of watching the movie.

:

01:08:13,879 --> 01:08:15,459

But yeah, that

:

01:08:15,524 --> 01:08:15,874

Shannon: Which

:

01:08:16,059 --> 01:08:16,379

Katie: touch.

:

01:08:16,814 --> 01:08:17,514

Shannon: it is a nice

:

01:08:17,564 --> 01:08:17,913

touch.

:

01:08:18,294 --> 01:08:21,913

Um, and maybe they wanted more people

to notice it because in the little

:

01:08:21,913 --> 01:08:25,234

yellow car, there's no need for the

lights to be on the headlights to be on.

:

01:08:25,394 --> 01:08:28,804

'cause he pulls up

during the day, you know.

:

01:08:29,154 --> 01:08:31,073

Katie: I should say it's

like busted out that,

:

01:08:31,243 --> 01:08:31,823

Shannon: busted out.

:

01:08:31,993 --> 01:08:32,154

Katie: it.

:

01:08:32,884 --> 01:08:33,174

Yeah.

:

01:08:33,323 --> 01:08:33,613

It's

:

01:08:33,684 --> 01:08:34,344

Shannon: No, I didn't,

:

01:08:35,484 --> 01:08:35,774

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:08:35,894 --> 01:08:36,654

Shannon: I didn't notice that.

:

01:08:37,283 --> 01:08:39,354

Those little Easter eggs are always fun.

:

01:08:39,774 --> 01:08:40,634

Uh, you know

:

01:08:41,294 --> 01:08:42,033

the significance.

:

01:08:42,184 --> 01:08:42,474

Yeah.

:

01:08:43,827 --> 01:08:49,886

Katie: Apparently a lot of, uh, captain

Ron's personal wardrobe came, came from

:

01:08:49,926 --> 01:08:56,747

Kurt Russell's closet and, uh, his like

mannerisms at like being piratey, wearing

:

01:08:56,807 --> 01:09:01,907

the Speedo was suggested by Russell, which

is kind of surprising to me actually.

:

01:09:03,917 --> 01:09:04,497

Shannon: Really, because

:

01:09:04,506 --> 01:09:08,737

again, I just, I, I see him as

a comedic actor who's kind of

:

01:09:08,737 --> 01:09:10,577

like goofy and oh, you know,

:

01:09:10,997 --> 01:09:11,216

um,

:

01:09:11,527 --> 01:09:14,987

Katie: he is, I guess, but like

his wardrobe, I just don't like,

:

01:09:15,727 --> 01:09:17,227

why would Kurt Russell have those?

:

01:09:18,797 --> 01:09:19,287

Clothes

:

01:09:20,064 --> 01:09:24,554

Shannon: I mean, he probably spends a lot

of time just not, if he doesn't have to

:

01:09:24,554 --> 01:09:26,474

dress up, he doesn't, he doesn't want to.

:

01:09:27,094 --> 01:09:27,314

One.

:

01:09:27,413 --> 01:09:30,874

And speaking of wardrobe, I wanted

to mention I really liked his, I

:

01:09:30,874 --> 01:09:34,323

hope this is his, now that you're

saying this, that Jamaican flag, the

:

01:09:34,323 --> 01:09:38,004

colors of the, of the Jamaican flag,

that hat, uh, that he wears at the,

:

01:09:38,274 --> 01:09:38,684

Like the

:

01:09:38,774 --> 01:09:39,124

beret.

:

01:09:39,264 --> 01:09:39,484

Katie: hat.

:

01:09:39,929 --> 01:09:40,589

Shannon: The roster hat.

:

01:09:40,589 --> 01:09:40,828

Yeah.

:

01:09:40,884 --> 01:09:41,174

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:42,589

Shannon: liked that.

:

01:09:43,009 --> 01:09:43,229

Um,

:

01:09:43,689 --> 01:09:46,948

and now that you said that, I'm like,

oh, I hope that was his 'cause it really

:

01:09:46,948 --> 01:09:48,709

added what I feel is like a nice touch.

:

01:09:50,573 --> 01:09:50,993

Katie: It did.

:

01:09:50,993 --> 01:09:52,993

And it's to your point about that.

:

01:09:53,104 --> 01:09:54,033

Good, good point.

:

01:09:54,374 --> 01:09:56,624

It, that tells us everything.

:

01:09:57,124 --> 01:09:59,064

His appearance alone tells

us everything we knew.

:

01:09:59,254 --> 01:10:02,394

Need to know about who this

person is, like at first sight

:

01:10:03,309 --> 01:10:03,529

Shannon: Yes.

:

01:10:03,949 --> 01:10:04,169

Yes.

:

01:10:04,274 --> 01:10:04,693

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

:

01:10:05,489 --> 01:10:08,689

Shannon: I think they're a very,

he and his wi or partner, um,

:

01:10:08,989 --> 01:10:10,849

are a very laid back couple.

:

01:10:10,849 --> 01:10:14,649

They don't embrace like the Hollywood

lifestyle and you know, just

:

01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:18,289

when they're not making a movie, they're

just mom and dad and grandpa and grandma.

:

01:10:19,999 --> 01:10:20,289

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:10:20,289 --> 01:10:20,849

Which is cool.

:

01:10:21,009 --> 01:10:22,689

I get that vibe from 'em also.

:

01:10:23,469 --> 01:10:27,009

And I love, I feel like I say this

a lot, I love that, A, they're not

:

01:10:27,009 --> 01:10:32,079

married and b, that she's something like

seven or eight years older than he is,

:

01:10:33,068 --> 01:10:39,959

which is unusual, especially in Hollywood,

but also that's, it makes more sense that

:

01:10:39,959 --> 01:10:42,689

way because men die sooner, you know?

:

01:10:43,349 --> 01:10:47,609

So really to, to maximize

your time with a person.

:

01:10:48,789 --> 01:10:52,239

The woman should be older, right?

:

01:10:52,954 --> 01:10:53,244

Shannon: Yeah.

:

01:10:53,244 --> 01:10:54,204

That's, that's good math.

:

01:10:54,224 --> 01:10:54,924

That's good math.

:

01:10:54,924 --> 01:10:55,204

Katie

:

01:10:55,949 --> 01:10:56,369

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

:

01:10:56,424 --> 01:10:57,364

Shannon: That's good math.

:

01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:58,209

Katie: You like that?

:

01:10:58,989 --> 01:11:03,849

? Now that I'm getting older, I'm

like, yeah, one of my favorite parts

:

01:11:03,869 --> 01:11:08,329

of trivia is who was considered in

terms of like alternate casting.

:

01:11:09,649 --> 01:11:11,369

I thought this would've been hilarious.

:

01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:16,179

Tom Arnold was considered

for the role of Captain Ron

:

01:11:16,954 --> 01:11:21,134

Shannon: Ah, again, lack of, um, physical

:

01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,059

Katie: Sex appeal.

:

01:11:22,404 --> 01:11:22,693

Shannon: Yeah.

:

01:11:22,794 --> 01:11:23,454

Sex appeal.

:

01:11:23,684 --> 01:11:23,974

Yeah.

:

01:11:24,164 --> 01:11:24,454

Yeah.

:

01:11:25,129 --> 01:11:28,389

Katie: But again, like I was not

physically attracted to Captain Rotten,

:

01:11:28,389 --> 01:11:31,269

like at all, but I see what you're saying.

:

01:11:31,269 --> 01:11:32,909

Like he was kind of a lady's man.

:

01:11:33,764 --> 01:11:34,054

Shannon: yeah.

:

01:11:34,074 --> 01:11:35,054

You had to believe it.

:

01:11:35,054 --> 01:11:38,094

Even if you weren't attracted to

him, you had to believe that ladies

:

01:11:38,094 --> 01:11:39,094

were attracted to him because

:

01:11:39,094 --> 01:11:41,894

that was the whole point

of, of Martin's insecurity.

:

01:11:42,074 --> 01:11:43,734

And um, you know, you

:

01:11:43,734 --> 01:11:44,934

had to believe that he was somebody.

:

01:11:44,934 --> 01:11:45,174

Yeah.

:

01:11:45,204 --> 01:11:45,494

Yeah.

:

01:11:46,274 --> 01:11:47,334

But I couldn't see Tom Arnold.

:

01:11:47,754 --> 01:11:48,294

That's fine.

:

01:11:49,297 --> 01:11:53,057

Katie: Yeah, he, he ultimately was passed

over, , because at that time he didn't

:

01:11:53,057 --> 01:11:54,777

have a lot of movie acting experience.

:

01:11:54,997 --> 01:11:56,297

, and he had like a time commit, commit.

:

01:11:56,317 --> 01:11:58,177

He was on the Roseanne

show 'cause he was married

:

01:11:58,227 --> 01:11:58,647

Shannon: Uh, yeah.

:

01:11:58,667 --> 01:11:59,087

Mm-Hmm.

:

01:11:59,097 --> 01:11:59,217

.

Katie: time.

:

01:12:00,137 --> 01:12:00,557

Mm-Hmm.

:

01:12:01,657 --> 01:12:06,757

and Jeff Bridges was also considered,

but he had other commitments.

:

01:12:07,467 --> 01:12:09,717

It's very like Big Lebowski, Jeff Bridges.

:

01:12:09,937 --> 01:12:10,157

So

:

01:12:10,467 --> 01:12:10,687

Shannon: uh.

:

01:12:10,757 --> 01:12:13,257

Katie: I could sort of

see that a little bit.

:

01:12:14,232 --> 01:12:17,172

Shannon: He did, you know, comparing

his character and the big, the

:

01:12:17,172 --> 01:12:21,132

dude and the Big Lebowski and Kurt

Russell's character in Captain Ron.

:

01:12:21,132 --> 01:12:26,502

There are similarities in those two

individuals, you know, as far as their

:

01:12:26,502 --> 01:12:28,422

personality and, yeah.

:

01:12:28,442 --> 01:12:30,902

And their, um, uh, gestures and actions.

:

01:12:31,242 --> 01:12:33,462

Um, so I could see, I could see that.

:

01:12:33,942 --> 01:12:37,742

I still think that Kurt Russell is

more attractive than Jeff Bridges, but

:

01:12:39,237 --> 01:12:40,937

Katie: Oh, a bazillion times.

:

01:12:41,317 --> 01:12:41,537

Yes.

:

01:12:41,807 --> 01:12:42,097

Yeah.

:

01:12:42,577 --> 01:12:46,737

I, I think Kurt Russell is very attractive

ordinarily just not as Captain Ron.

:

01:12:47,904 --> 01:12:51,204

Martin, do you have any guesses

for who was considered to play

:

01:12:51,204 --> 01:12:52,364

Martin, other than Martin Short?

:

01:12:52,984 --> 01:12:54,574

Can you think of other

people kind of like him?

:

01:12:55,379 --> 01:12:56,239

Shannon: in the nineties.

:

01:12:56,699 --> 01:12:56,919

Um,

:

01:12:58,114 --> 01:12:58,404

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:12:58,409 --> 01:13:01,229

Shannon: the only person that's maybe

coming to mind, and this is probably

:

01:13:01,229 --> 01:13:06,068

just my association, uh, because of their

partnership now, would be Steve Martin.

:

01:13:06,889 --> 01:13:08,749

Um, you know, he,

:

01:13:08,769 --> 01:13:08,989

he

:

01:13:09,089 --> 01:13:09,549

He also.

:

01:13:10,534 --> 01:13:11,114

He was one.

:

01:13:12,014 --> 01:13:12,234

Um,

:

01:13:12,614 --> 01:13:12,834

and

:

01:13:12,834 --> 01:13:13,154

maybe

:

01:13:13,224 --> 01:13:13,714

because

:

01:13:13,874 --> 01:13:14,114

Katie: considered.

:

01:13:14,984 --> 01:13:17,664

Shannon: Interesting and maybe

Bill Murray, just because of the

:

01:13:17,664 --> 01:13:21,504

time and like the types of movies

Bill Murray was doing at that time.

:

01:13:22,624 --> 01:13:24,704

Katie: I can see why you

say that, but he wasn't

:

01:13:25,374 --> 01:13:25,664

Shannon: Okay.

:

01:13:25,959 --> 01:13:28,409

Katie: Partially because

he had like literally done.

:

01:13:28,679 --> 01:13:30,049

What about Bob the year

:

01:13:30,049 --> 01:13:30,369

before?

:

01:13:30,669 --> 01:13:32,129

So it's like kind of the same movie,

:

01:13:32,474 --> 01:13:32,764

?

Shannon: Yeah.

:

01:13:32,794 --> 01:13:35,684

It's just, he would just be playing a

different, he would be playing the, the

:

01:13:35,804 --> 01:13:36,764

straight man character.

:

01:13:37,584 --> 01:13:38,244

Um, yeah.

:

01:13:38,244 --> 01:13:38,644

Steve Martin.

:

01:13:38,764 --> 01:13:39,564

I can't think of anybody else.

:

01:13:39,943 --> 01:13:42,044

Uh, who, who, who else am I missing?

:

01:13:43,619 --> 01:13:47,079

Katie: So apparently it was

originally written for Chevy

:

01:13:47,209 --> 01:13:49,979

Chase, which I can see it's very

:

01:13:50,404 --> 01:13:50,693

Shannon: yeah.

:

01:13:51,219 --> 01:13:53,219

Katie: Lampoons esque in that way.

:

01:13:54,039 --> 01:13:58,899

Um, but somebody that who I think is

very Martin shorty is Rick Moranis.

:

01:13:59,943 --> 01:14:00,164

Shannon: Oh,

:

01:14:00,474 --> 01:14:01,404

very much so.

:

01:14:01,409 --> 01:14:01,649

Katie: play,

:

01:14:02,693 --> 01:14:02,914

Shannon: Yes.

:

01:14:03,589 --> 01:14:06,729

Katie: he had too many other

commitments and, and he went away.

:

01:14:06,749 --> 01:14:12,409

For those of you who maybe don't recall

this, his, um, wife died of cancer, so he

:

01:14:12,409 --> 01:14:14,289

kind of left Hollywood to raise his kids.

:

01:14:14,909 --> 01:14:15,329

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

:

01:14:15,549 --> 01:14:16,929

Katie: that's what he

was doing at this time.

:

01:14:17,909 --> 01:14:22,009

And apparently they were on SCTV

together, he and Martin Short.

:

01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:24,019

Shannon: Is that the Canadian?

:

01:14:24,484 --> 01:14:25,384

Katie: Are they both Canadian?

:

01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:26,339

Shannon: Yes.

:

01:14:26,568 --> 01:14:26,859

Yeah.

:

01:14:27,049 --> 01:14:27,339

Yeah.

:

01:14:27,339 --> 01:14:28,019

That's the Canadian

:

01:14:28,339 --> 01:14:28,859

Saturday Night Live.

:

01:14:28,939 --> 01:14:30,059

I know Martin Short is Canadian.

:

01:14:30,259 --> 01:14:34,899

I guess I didn't know that Rick Moranis

was Canadian or performed in Canada.

:

01:14:36,154 --> 01:14:36,443

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:14:36,884 --> 01:14:38,604

I, I kind of don't think

I realized that either.

:

01:14:39,474 --> 01:14:45,324

Also considered Billy Crystal,

John Candy, Richard Dreyfuss,

:

01:14:47,693 --> 01:14:53,024

and this one is one who I would,

John Ritter was also considered.

:

01:14:53,264 --> 01:14:54,744

I think he would do a really good job.

:

01:14:55,539 --> 01:14:58,199

Shannon: he would've, yeah,

I could see him doing that.

:

01:14:58,579 --> 01:14:59,919

Um, absolutely.

:

01:15:00,519 --> 01:15:01,439

I think, uh.

:

01:15:02,839 --> 01:15:06,289

John Candy would've been

funny, but he also did well.

:

01:15:06,629 --> 01:15:08,049

Uh, what, uh, what was that one?

:

01:15:08,049 --> 01:15:10,568

Where they like get the summer,

summer rental or something.

:

01:15:10,799 --> 01:15:13,609

He's kind of that character

or Summer, summer house.

:

01:15:13,609 --> 01:15:14,089

Summer rental.

:

01:15:14,144 --> 01:15:14,434

Katie: yeah.

:

01:15:15,219 --> 01:15:15,509

Shannon: Yeah.

:

01:15:15,514 --> 01:15:15,934

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

:

01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:16,969

Shannon: Yeah.

:

01:15:17,429 --> 01:15:20,449

Um, well those are

interesting, uh, choices now.

:

01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:24,289

Does it say, um, where you're getting

this information if they turned it down

:

01:15:24,549 --> 01:15:27,529

or, and they just landed on Martin shirt.

:

01:15:27,559 --> 01:15:29,529

He's the one that raised his

hand and said, sure, I'll do it.

:

01:15:29,709 --> 01:15:30,209

I'm not busy.

:

01:15:30,789 --> 01:15:33,969

Or if like, they lined him up

and said, this guy right here.

:

01:15:34,389 --> 01:15:35,529

And then everybody went away.

:

01:15:35,629 --> 01:15:35,849

Sad.

:

01:15:36,068 --> 01:15:38,409

The ones that didn't get

picked we're like, oh no, this

:

01:15:38,409 --> 01:15:38,889

is gonna make

:

01:15:39,049 --> 01:15:39,269

Katie: Sad.

:

01:15:40,219 --> 01:15:41,749

Well, they want it.

:

01:15:41,769 --> 01:15:45,109

So I'm Chevy Chase turned it

down 'cause apparently it was

:

01:15:45,109 --> 01:15:46,029

originally written for him.

:

01:15:46,779 --> 01:15:48,589

Rick Moranis turned it down.

:

01:15:48,809 --> 01:15:53,789

So these are people who were offered

and then those others, um, probably

:

01:15:54,509 --> 01:15:55,669

auditioned but didn't make it.

:

01:15:55,999 --> 01:15:59,349

Billy Crystal, Steve Martin, John

Ritter, John Candy, and Richard Dreyfuss.

:

01:15:59,539 --> 01:16:01,989

Because Martin ultimately

ended up with the role.

:

01:16:02,249 --> 01:16:02,989

Martin Short,

:

01:16:03,059 --> 01:16:04,939

Shannon: I bet that's what they're

gonna put on their tombstone.

:

01:16:05,039 --> 01:16:08,459

My biggest regret is

not landing Captain Ron

:

01:16:09,249 --> 01:16:10,059

Katie: captain Ryan.

:

01:16:11,599 --> 01:16:11,889

Yeah.

:

01:16:11,889 --> 01:16:14,489

They're, after they see

it, they're like, oh, whew.

:

01:16:14,839 --> 01:16:17,049

Good thing I was passed over for that one.

:

01:16:18,651 --> 01:16:20,471

Now, uh, let's see.

:

01:16:20,671 --> 01:16:21,791

I have not seen this movie.

:

01:16:21,861 --> 01:16:24,671

Have you seen Glass Onion,

A Knives Out Mystery.

:

01:16:25,126 --> 01:16:25,666

Shannon: Yes, I have

:

01:16:25,666 --> 01:16:29,186

very good, not as good as, not as

good as the knives out the original.

:

01:16:29,406 --> 01:16:32,146

Um, which I think is just a masterpiece.

:

01:16:32,606 --> 01:16:33,146

Um, but

:

01:16:33,146 --> 01:16:35,346

the glass onion was, was pretty good.

:

01:16:35,726 --> 01:16:37,826

Um, it's inter, you know, I like

:

01:16:37,826 --> 01:16:37,986

the

:

01:16:37,986 --> 01:16:38,426

characters.

:

01:16:39,016 --> 01:16:39,306

Yeah.

:

01:16:39,784 --> 01:16:42,384

Katie: I have heard similar things

from other people, so that's why I

:

01:16:42,384 --> 01:16:44,424

haven't been like racing to see it.

:

01:16:45,204 --> 01:16:50,424

But Noah Segan or Sagan, uh, he said

that he cited the character of Captain

:

01:16:50,474 --> 01:16:55,984

Wrong as an inspiration for his

performance as Darrel in that film.

:

01:16:57,824 --> 01:16:57,904

Shannon: Interesting.

:

01:16:58,224 --> 01:16:58,934

Katie: Who's, do you

:

01:16:59,104 --> 01:16:59,943

Shannon: the top of my head.

:

01:17:00,924 --> 01:17:01,144

No,

:

01:17:01,214 --> 01:17:01,414

Katie: it's

:

01:17:01,424 --> 01:17:02,064

Shannon: off the top of my head.

:

01:17:02,064 --> 01:17:05,594

I'll have to go D-E-R-O-L

:

01:17:06,564 --> 01:17:06,984

Katie: mm-Hmm.

:

01:17:07,704 --> 01:17:07,924

Shannon: and

:

01:17:07,924 --> 01:17:08,564

I'll have to go back

:

01:17:08,564 --> 01:17:09,204

and look at that.

:

01:17:09,224 --> 01:17:09,744

Katie: know the character.

:

01:17:09,744 --> 01:17:10,144

Mm-Hmm.

:

01:17:10,544 --> 01:17:14,804

Shannon: Um, I don't know if he's

one of the main cast, um, but

:

01:17:14,804 --> 01:17:15,724

I'll go back and look at that.

:

01:17:15,724 --> 01:17:16,443

That's interesting.

:

01:17:17,574 --> 01:17:18,404

It'll help somebody

:

01:17:18,464 --> 01:17:19,164

Katie: to check it out now.

:

01:17:20,779 --> 01:17:21,068

Yeah.

:

01:17:21,249 --> 01:17:23,749

He was like, let me just do,

no one's gonna remember Captain

:

01:17:23,969 --> 01:17:26,389

Ron . So let me just do that.

:

01:17:27,262 --> 01:17:28,772

We're being a little hard on this.

:

01:17:29,152 --> 01:17:32,972

If you haven't seen it,

I would say see it, but

:

01:17:32,977 --> 01:17:33,397

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

:

01:17:35,012 --> 01:17:36,442

Katie: maybe don't buy it.

:

01:17:36,922 --> 01:17:37,362

I don't know.

:

01:17:37,502 --> 01:17:41,242

You know, it's, it's not one that you're

gonna revisit over and over again,

:

01:17:42,622 --> 01:17:48,242

but I will say I would love to leave

all of my responsibilities behind and

:

01:17:48,242 --> 01:17:50,362

go sailing around the world forever.

:

01:17:51,342 --> 01:17:53,762

But unfortunately it is a

movie and not real life.

:

01:17:54,022 --> 01:17:57,922

So we must now return

to present day reality.

:

01:17:58,432 --> 01:18:03,922

Shannon, thank you for joining me to

Relive:

:

01:18:04,622 --> 01:18:07,602

Uh, captain Ron, do you have any

closing thoughts about the movie?

:

01:18:08,202 --> 01:18:08,322

I.

:

01:18:09,097 --> 01:18:11,797

Shannon: No, just to echo what

you said, Katie, we are being

:

01:18:11,837 --> 01:18:13,357

a little bit hard, hard on it.

:

01:18:13,657 --> 01:18:18,797

Um, but it is a movie that I do remember

from my childhood and I would, I would

:

01:18:19,077 --> 01:18:22,517

recommend seeing it at least once, just

for the nostalgia of the early nineties.

:

01:18:22,857 --> 01:18:28,397

And it is, you know, for, for someone

who is, um, a sailor or has been

:

01:18:28,397 --> 01:18:33,837

sailing or is familiar with the terms

of sailing, I think it would resonate.

:

01:18:34,267 --> 01:18:35,207

Um, some of the,

:

01:18:35,467 --> 01:18:41,647

the comedy in it, um, would definitely,

would definitely come off as, as humorous

:

01:18:41,647 --> 01:18:45,087

and entertaining as someone who has

been exposed to being on a boat or

:

01:18:45,427 --> 01:18:49,527

can get some of the idiosyncrasies and

subtleties of, of sailing, um, themselves.

:

01:18:49,627 --> 01:18:51,047

So yeah, absolutely.

:

01:18:51,127 --> 01:18:54,607

I say watch at least once and

maybe tell Katie your thoughts.

:

01:18:55,326 --> 01:18:56,266

Katie: Yes, please do.

:

01:18:56,606 --> 01:19:00,066

And thank you all for listening

or watching on YouTube.

:

01:19:01,116 --> 01:19:04,776

. To Shannon's point, if you have thoughts,

comments, feedback, et cetera, email

:

01:19:04,796 --> 01:19:08,056

me at Retro Made podcast@gmail.com.

:

01:19:08,566 --> 01:19:14,416

Comment on YouTube and head on over to

the Retro Made Podcast Facebook page.

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01:19:14,946 --> 01:19:18,376

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