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15th Nov 2025

Home Alone 2: Lost in New York | S2E19

We’re heading back to 1992 — a year of slapstick traps, Talkboys, and turtle doves — to revisit Home Alone 2: Lost in New York. It’s bigger, louder, and somehow even more chaotic than the original, set against the perfect early-’90s backdrop of neon windbreakers, Crystal Pepsi, and boy bands just starting to form. Let’s see if Kevin’s second round of mayhem still holds up… or if this sequel should’ve been left at the Plaza.

I’m delighted to be joined by a new guest, Andy of All Apologies podcast as well as All the Wright Mov(i)es, an Edgar Wright limited series on The Director's Chair Network. You can find him & his work at https://allapologiespodcast.com/

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and welcome back to

Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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We are heading back to 1992 today, a

year of slapstick traps talk boys and

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Turtle Doves to revisit Home Alone.

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Two lost in New York.

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It's bigger, louder, and somehow even

more chaotic than the original set

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against the perfect early nineties

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backdrop of a neon windbreaker

Crystal Pepsi and boy bands.

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Just starting to form.

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Let's see if Kevin's second round of

mayhem still holds up, or if the sequel

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should have been left at the plaza.

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I'm so excited to have a

new guest to Retro Made.

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This is our third try.

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We finally got him on.

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We have from the Directors Chair Network.

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Also all apologies podcast.

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Andy, tell us about you

and your show, Andy.

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Andy: Hi Katie.

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Glad we finally got to do this.

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All apologies podcast is I'm a frequent

guest host on who are these podcasts,

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which is a far bigger show than my show.

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And that is a roast style comedy

show of ridiculous podcasts making

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fools of themselves on the internet.

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And I've spun that off into

the same format, only targeting

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apology tours from celebrities.

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We just covered Alec Baldwin

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Katie: Oh

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Andy: we like to look at a lot of,

I Joel Osman getting drunk at a

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ski lodge and arrested in a parking

lot dash cam type of footage.

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Katie: love it.

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Andy: those are the type of things

that we like to cover on all apologies.

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But I'm also doing, Edgar Wright's

films for the Directors Chair network.

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So we've done Shauna, the Dead

and Hot Fuzz and Scott Pilgrim and

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I did Edgar Wright's Independent

Film Fist Full of Fingers with

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Ryan, who of course, you know.

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So, that's what I'm up to.

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And you can find all that at all.

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Apologies podcast.com

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Katie: As I was getting ready

this morning, I listened to

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the Scott Pilgrim episode.

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Nicely done.

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Andy: Thank you.

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Yeah, that was, that's my

favorite one, obviously.

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Well, I'm a bass player that grew up in

the eighties with eight bit Nintendo, so,

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I'm going to be a fan of Scott Pilgrim.

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Katie: Yes.

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Andy: of my favorite movies.

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Yeah.

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Katie: Awesome.

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Well this is 92.

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So what we do here on Retro Made

Andy, is we set the stage, go back in

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time to a simpler time, shall we say.

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So today we're going back to 1992.

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So we are gonna open the

time capsule from:

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we have a wheel to spin.

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I will spin on your behalf.

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We'll come to a category and I'll

ask you some trivia questions.

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We did cover 1992 already

with the Beethoven episode.

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I don't know if you're aware

that John Hughes wrote Beethoven.

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Andy: No, I didn't,

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Katie: He did.

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Andy: Watch it, so I won't no

spoilers, so I didn't see that one yet.

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Katie: that wasn't one that you as a

kid watched with the big fluffy dog.

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Andy: I don't know why.

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Yeah.

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That one missed me.

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Maybe I was a little too old

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Katie: Mm,

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Andy: something that appeared

to be a children's movie.

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Is that a

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Katie: definitely a children's.

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Andy: Groden in that?

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Katie: Yep.

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Yep.

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Mm-hmm.

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Andy: Yeah.

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Also, I'm not a fan of Charles Groin,

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Katie: Okay.

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Well then, there you go.

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So that was, so listeners go back

and check out some more trivia from

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1992 and Beethoven in that episode.

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Gonna spin for you.

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See what we come to

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I make 'em pretty easy.

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Okay.

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Boombox, bangers.

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Andy: Great.

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Katie: These are the top five

songs on the billboard charts

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for the entire year of 1992.

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Okay.

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I make 'em a little too easy.

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But we have four Philadelphia men

that were the Kings of r and b.

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Slow jams that might,

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Andy: Boys to Boys to

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Katie: yes.

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And what's the what's the song?

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92, number one?

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Andy: Slow jam.

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End of the road.

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Katie: Very good.

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Very good.

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The number two song celebrated

curvy women everywhere with a

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very unforgettable opening line.

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Do I need to say the opening line?

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Andy: baby.

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Got back, sir.

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Mixa

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Katie: Yes.

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I like big.

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And I cannot lie.

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Yeah.

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Uhhuh.

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Andy: Oh, that.

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Katie: Well, the yeah, actually

there's two kind of opening lines

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that they could be referring to.

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You're correct.

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And did you say who

the, who the singer was.

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Andy: sir.

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Mix

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Katie: Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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No cheating here.

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I remember being in like grade

school really liking this.

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This group performed by two

backwards clothes wearing teens.

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This energetic rap hit told you

exactly what to do twice in its title.

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Andy: Yeah.

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Jump by crisscross.

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Katie: Very good.

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Were, were you a fan?

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Andy: I never wore my clothing backwards.

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I'll say that, but I think I was a

fan of, crisscross as a, as a child.

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Watching children become famous

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Katie: Yep.

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Andy: was fun.

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Katie: They're like 12

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Andy: I re Yeah.

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Katie: Daddy Mac and Mac Daddy.

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Yeah.

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The number four song is an elegant Ballad

by a former Miss America contestant.

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Top the Charts as she sang about

life's surprises, reminding us that

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sometimes the sun goes around the moon.

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Andy: Yeah.

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Vanessa Williams, the best for last.

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Katie: Very good.

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All right, the last one, you're on a roll.

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This r and b trio from Atlanta

harmonized their way through a 92 hit

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that repeated its title three times.

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Just like the group's name Nearly does

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Andy: Hmm.

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This is a tough one.

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Atlanta Trio.

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Katie: women.

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Andy: say Tony.

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Tony.

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Tony.

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But I don't know the song.

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Katie: It's not Tony, Tony, Tony, but

it's in a harmonized their way through 92.

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I think that was kind of a miss that

last, the similar to the name, it's,

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Andy: it was off put.

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Katie: yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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It is a misdirect.

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It's letters, the group's name is letters

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Andy: Hmm.

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Katie: women.

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No, really t Close, close.

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Close.

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That was a TLC.

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Andy: TLC was back then.

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Katie: With that, that first album, TLC.

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And the song is Baby, baby, baby,

baby, baby, baby, baby, baby.

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Andy: think I know that one.

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Katie: Yeah.

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You do.

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Andy: with not knowing that

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Katie: Okay.

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Andy: fine.

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Katie: Okay.

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Okay.

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Andy: Not perfect.

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Everyone, that's what we're trying to say.

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That's

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Katie: let's,

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Andy: when they did that

slam with Michael Jackson.

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Katie: Oh, terrible.

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All right, we're gonna spin again.

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Let's get another category for you.

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Andy: Yeah.

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Katie: Totally tasty.

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And

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Andy: one to me.

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Katie: this is snacks, foods,

drinks, stuff like that.

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Andy: Hmm.

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Katie: Okay.

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92.

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All right.

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There's, I, they're so easy.

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This prepackaged meals targeted at

kids became incredibly popular in 92,

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offered a combination of crackers, deli

meats, cheese, and sometimes sweets

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in a convenient, portable package.

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What was it?

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Andy: Lunchables, I used to work in

a dairy cooler where they stocked

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Lunchables and sometimes they would

accidentally get slashed with a box cutter

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and, it would be able to have a snack

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Katie: Accidentally,

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Andy: the Cool.

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Katie: oh my God.

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I would be the worst employee at a

place where there was food that I liked.

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'cause I would accidentally

ruin things a lot.

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Andy: Yeah, but that the meat that

comes in the lunch bowls is disgusting.

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I don't know

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Katie: I,

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Andy: passes.

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FDA

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Katie: well, we don't have the strongest

of let's, well I'll just leave that there.

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America doesn't have the

strongest regulations.

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But I remember as a kid, 'cause we

could not bring our lunch to school.

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I went to a Catholic school.

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We had to eat at the cafeteria

and every once in a blue moon we'd

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have a day where it was a big deal.

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You could bring your lunch.

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And I always wanted to bring Lunchables

and my mom's like, no, that's so dumb.

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There's four things.

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It, it's not a good lunch.

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Andy: I remember when I was, I

mean this is going even further

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back, but I also went to Catholic

school and there was certain days

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of the month where they would.

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You could opt to have happy meals

from McDonald's shipped into the,

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like kindergarten or first grade.

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It was a big deal to get it, and it

was an even bigger deal to not get it,

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which I have a twin brother and young

parents, so oftentimes we didn't have

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money for McDonald's lunch at school.

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But yeah, that, that was a, when

you talk about regulations and

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things that shouldn't be fed

to children in schools, getting

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Katie: McDonald's.

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Andy: school was maybe

fun, but Ill conceived.

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Katie: Also, was there

DoorDash at this time?

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How's this?

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I mean, somebody just

volunteered to go pick a bunch,

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Andy: I,

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Katie: pick a bunch of happy meals up.

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Andy: probably some handshake

deal that they had with the,

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the church and McDonald's

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Katie: The church.

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Love it.

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Okay, let's see.

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I mean, there was a lot of junk food from

this time that was, marketed towards kids.

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And speaking of which

and I, I loved it all.

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I loved this next one, Totinos.

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This thing, Totino's Blank became

widely popular as a convenient snack.

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Click to prepare small

bite-sized pizza snacks.

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Staple for school aged

kids and busy families.

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Andy: Yeah.

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Sleepover food.

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Katie: What was it?

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Andy: food.

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Katie: What was the name of it?

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Andy: rolls,

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Katie: rolls.

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Yes.

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Pizza rolls.

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God, I loved pizza rolls.

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Andy: Yeah.

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We didn't, we didn't have

those so much in my house.

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I remember trying them though and

thinking that they were disgusting.

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The remember what is it called?

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The gum that had the liquid on the inside.

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Katie: Oh, like Gushers or, oh, so

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Andy: yeah.

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Well, it was like gushers.

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Yeah.

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And basically a Totino's

pizza roll was just like hot

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Katie: a hot version,

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Andy: cat food gushing into your

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Katie: cat food.

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Andy: It's, it sucks.

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Oh, I got her.

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She's dying everyone.

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Katie: I am dying.

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No, I I sound a little off.

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I have a cold.

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I'm sorry, everyone.

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So I'm hacking up along when I mute.

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This next one, I gotta say I

adored them and my parents were

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like, they're so fake tasting.

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How do you like these?

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But, but Chips Ajoy introduced a new

version of their iconic chocolate chip

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cookies and they became a huge hit.

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So the regular chips, Ajoy has a blue bag.

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These had a different texture than

the original crispier version.

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Andy: Oh yeah.

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Katie: What was this new version

and what color bag was it in?

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Andy: Hmm.

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Okay, because I immediately

run to and think of soft batch,

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which I think is a different

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Katie: It's a different brand, but

you're on the exact right lines.

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Andy: if it's Chips Ahoy,

it's, it's like the red chunky.

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What?

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Soft.

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Soft batch.

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Chunky Chips.

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Ahoy.

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Katie: Yeah, it's chewy, chewy

Chips Ahoy is what it was.

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Andy: Okay.

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Katie: it was in a red bag and they

did taste like plastic a little bit.

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Like you could taste the chemicals

or whatever that was in them.

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But I loved them 'cause I

liked that they were soft.

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I don't know.

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I man, red bag Chips Ahoy.

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Anyone else?

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Andy: Well, when you're a kid, they

feel like sugar is just a dopamine

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spike straight to your brain.

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You don't even realize that it tastes

like your palate matures as an adult.

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'cause I have the same opinion

of Oreos, which when I was.

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Katie: Mm.

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Andy: A burnout.

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I would eat a whole sleeve of Oreos

and watch The Simpsons and just be

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the, the happiest stoner in town.

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But now when I eat Oreos, it tastes

nothing but like chemicals to me.

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So I can, I could see how, I remember,

you know, like I said, I used, I also

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used to deliver or pick up recycling,

you know, adjacent to a garbage man.

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And I would just cake and cookies for

breakfast and lunch and just run it off.

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And I would eat soft batch

cookies like all day, every day.

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And the very thought of

eating one now is repellent.

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I don't want that in any single way.

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Katie: No, it is kind of wild.

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I mean, you know, what's kind of sad is

that some people's tastes don't mature.

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Some children grow up eating junk food

and grow up into adults only wanting that.

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It's,

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Andy: Yeah.

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Katie: sad.

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Thankfully I eat vegetables.

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I don't, you know.

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Andy: Lose their teeth and get diabetes?

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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There's a couple that are similar.

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Let's see, were these both 92 now?

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I'm kind of questioning.

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There were two Pepsi versions

that seemed very similar.

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Okay.

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We have one that is notorious

for being a marketing failure

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despite having a futuristic appeal.

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It was discontinued after just a year.

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And it's just now considered a

curiosity in pop culture nineties.

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Andy: is 92,

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Andy: I thought that was older.

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Katie: What was it?

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Andy: Chris Crystal Pepsi, right?

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Katie: Well, yeah.

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So is that the same thing as Pepsi?

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Clear is.

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Andy: Yeah, I would.

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I would think so.

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Katie: Pure.

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Andy: to be.

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Katie: Yeah, it's , crystal clear

Pepsi marketed as a pure and

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healthier alternative to regular

Pepsi, but it did not gain traction.

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But, as with a lot of things, have you

noticed like clearly Canadian is back,

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like some of those throwback brands?

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It has a resurgence in recent years,

thanks to nostalgia for nineties products.

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Andy: Yeah, I did.

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I do remember a couple years ago

they reintroduced it just for fun.

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But that's amazing that they would

try and market it as something healthy

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because they took the, the Dooo Brown

additive that makes it Coca-Cola color

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out, and suddenly it's a health food.

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That's ridiculous.

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Katie: One less chemical to, to make,

actually, maybe there's probably an, an

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extra chemical to make it clear somehow.

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I don't know.

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Andy: It's probably harder to

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Andy: 'cause Coke syrup is, I mean,

the cocoa bean is brown for god's sake.

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Katie: Good point.

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Well that was our little

flashback time capsule from:

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You did well, Andy?

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Andy: Almost.

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Perfect.

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Katie: Yes.

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Andy: fan and I'll admit that.

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Katie: okay.

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See, I was like, how

would you not get that?

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I'm just kidding.

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I'm teasing.

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Alright, so this season on retro

we're all about John Hughes.

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Do you have anything to share?

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I don't know if you're a fan, if

you are familiar with John Hughes.

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What's your history

thoughts on John Hughes?

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Andy: yeah, John Hughes is

definitely an informative

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artist, creator of the eighties.

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Everybody that grew up

then would be aware of it.

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I'm a particular, you know, I'm

partial to Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

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I feel like that spoke to me as a

child that hated being in school.

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So getting out of it in the most

clever ways was delightful for me.

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And then all of the Molly Ringwald

er era stuff is, you know,

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memorable and, and debatable.

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I've, I know Christian Blatt from

the Blatt cast and many movie.

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shows has brought up the fact that

the Breakfast Club isn't good.

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And I disagree, so I, excuse me.

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I feel like The Breakfast Club

is a movie for teenagers that

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are disgruntled, angsty teens.

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If you're not an angsty teen, then

the Breakfast Club is not for you.

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If you're looking at the Breakfast Club

as a grown man, sure you're not gonna

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think it's good, but if you're looking

at it from an alley, alley, sheety type

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of personality, you're gonna love it.

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So it's, it's for kids, a kids movie

for kids, and it still holds up.

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And I was John Benter in high school,

so I'll defend that movie and.

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Katie: Oh, I was, I will go

hard defending Breakfast Club.

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Breakfast Club is, I think,

Hugh's best, best work.

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Andy: Right.

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It's gonna be, you're,

it's gonna be hard to do

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Andy: a, a series about John Hughes

and not to the Breakfast Club is

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probably one of the most popular ones.

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Katie: I mean, he's had, he's had misses

and, and there are critiques are to be had

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with some of his movies from that time.

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But yes, go on.

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Go on.

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Andy: But I, when we first discussed doing

this, I wanted to pick something obscure.

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I, I'm sure everybody wanted to do these,

the big guns at, from, at the beginning.

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But talked about doing national lamp,

poons class reunion and it's unfindable.

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So, we pivoted to Dutch,

which is unfindable.

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And that was disappointing because I

do remember Dutch as a kid and I loved

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at O'Neill and buried with children.

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So.

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then you have a young

Ethan Emry in that one.

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And , I remembered the movie, I

remembered as a younger person

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disappointed that not realizing

that an actor could play different

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traits of a character and watching

Dutch and going, this isn't Al Bundy,

436

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

437

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Andy: funny because it's not Al Bundy.

438

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It's Ed O'Neill doing a different thing.

439

:

But again, you can't do it because it

doesn't exist on the internet right now.

440

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So everybody go by physical media

because these movies that you want to

441

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talk about are not findable on Netflix.

442

:

but Dutch also stinks.

443

:

As I was preparing to do that show and

I was watching every clip on YouTube,

444

:

I was realizing that John Hughes loves.

445

:

Class warfare.

446

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

447

:

Mm-hmm.

448

:

Andy: of racial diversity, let's say

every, everyone's white, but the poor kids

449

:

Katie: Yeah.

450

:

Andy: don't get along in

451

:

Katie: Yeah.

452

:

Andy: every John

453

:

Katie: Yes.

454

:

Andy: So

455

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Katie: Well, in, in doing this I, I

was less harsh on Dutch because I had

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probably just come off from some others.

457

:

Andy: Tell other terrible crap.

458

:

Katie: you know, I still have

several movies to do and there's

459

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some really good ones in there.

460

:

But what I'm seeing very much

is he has a formula and he

461

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doesn't sway from it at all,

462

:

Andy: Mm-hmm.

463

:

Katie: And he just kind

of regurgitates stuff

464

:

Andy: I'm seeing that

with Edgar Wright too.

465

:

There's a lot of beats and themes that.

466

:

I think it's fair to say that when you

a creator and you find something that

467

:

works, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

and just keep putting something out there

468

:

that was successful and then you try and

do that to a varying degree of success.

469

:

So I, I guess I can understand

that, but it are you kind of saving

470

:

your opinion for when you're done,

about what you think the best one is

471

:

Katie: Of John Hughes?

472

:

Andy: Yeah.

473

:

Katie: Well, I don't think it will

change and I haven't like really

474

:

gone through in my head all of them.

475

:

But it's gotta be Breakfast Club.

476

:

Andy: Really.

477

:

Okay.

478

:

And, and correct me if I'm wrong,

is Planet Trains and Automobiles.

479

:

John Hughes.

480

:

Katie: Yes.

481

:

Andy: I think that might, might be at

the top of my list with Ferris Bueller.

482

:

Katie: Oh, interesting.

483

:

Okay.

484

:

Andy: Ferris Bueller Planes

Trains Breakfast Club is up there.

485

:

And then

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Katie: Because

487

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Andy: of things on this list

that I didn't even realize

488

:

Katie: Oh, I know,

489

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Andy: related.

490

:

Katie: same.

491

:

Andy: just write writing, not just

492

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

493

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Andy: but also writing.

494

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So, yeah, it was interesting to go

through the catalog just on paper anyway.

495

:

Katie: The John Candy ones, so he

had the teen ones where, you know,

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there's a period of time where he

really focused on that teen angst.

497

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Andy: that's seems most synonymous with

498

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Katie: John Hughes.

499

:

Yeah.

500

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But, and then he had some good success

with the kid Fair, including home alone.

501

:

Uncle Buck, like John

Candy's in a lot of them.

502

:

Andy: Culkin days.

503

:

Katie: yeah.

504

:

Yeah.

505

:

And then , it's clear when he doesn't.

506

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Put his heart into something.

507

:

It really shows in the quality

of the movie as I'm learning

508

:

going through his work.

509

:

But without further ado,

shall we get into Home Alone?

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:

Two.

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:

Lost in New York.

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:

Andy: I couldn't believe

this was still on the list.

513

:

This

514

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Katie: Me too.

515

:

Andy: when I picked all

these other obscure things.

516

:

I like talking about terrible movies

and making fun of those, or seeing

517

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something that I hadn't seen before.

518

:

So when I saw Home Alone two on the

list, I, it was the most obvious choice.

519

:

Katie: I know there's a couples,

520

:

Andy: that I hadn't seen before and it

turns out I'm not allowed to see him

521

:

Katie: right?

522

:

Yeah, I know.

523

:

Andy: went back to this.

524

:

Katie: And I even class reunion, I even

got a copy at the library and it was

525

:

scratched, so I only saw part of it.

526

:

So I had to like glue together, clips from

YouTube, which there aren't very many.

527

:

So to your point about physical media,

but you can't, you only buy ones that

528

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you're gonna love and rewatch a lot.

529

:

And I do own the original home alone on

DVD, but not, not home alone two, but

530

:

thankfully it was available to stream

531

:

Andy: do you remember, I, I'm not

gonna make you say how old you are,

532

:

but when that came out in theaters in

533

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Katie: 90

534

:

90.

535

:

Mm-hmm.

536

:

Andy: home alone, it was such a phenomenon

that the, a lot of, they wouldn't

537

:

have these mega plexes back then in

my town anyway of upstate New York

538

:

and people would have to wait in line.

539

:

There's no internet to

get tickets in advance.

540

:

You would have to show up,

wait in line, and not get in.

541

:

Katie: Oh, no.

542

:

Andy: remember failing to

see Home alone several times

543

:

before I finally got to see it,

544

:

Katie: No way.

545

:

Andy: yeah.

546

:

Yeah.

547

:

And it was worth, it was worth the wait.

548

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

549

:

Andy: it's an iconic movie that was it.

550

:

Lightning in a bottle.

551

:

It was a sensation.

552

:

It put Joe Pesci on the map.

553

:

It put Macaulay Culkin on the map.

554

:

Put Catherine O'Hara on the map.

555

:

So, big, big deal.

556

:

So then I'm sure they, they were

running, clamoring to do it all

557

:

over again with Home Loan two.

558

:

Katie: Just in time because he's still

cute and young enough for this movie,

559

:

but maybe one more year and it, he

wouldn't have been, you know, you gotta

560

:

Andy: Then he goes into

obscurity and you go

561

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

562

:

Andy: Richie Rich did.

563

:

Is that John Hughes?

564

:

Richie

565

:

Katie: No, no,

566

:

Andy: okay.

567

:

Katie: Yeah.

568

:

Andy: I will say that I, I felt

like in home loan two McCaulay

569

:

culkin's acting chops were plused up.

570

:

I feel

571

:

Katie: Yeah.

572

:

Okay.

573

:

That's, that's good to hear.

574

:

So yeah, you guys, this came

th,:

575

:

It's pg I assume the

first one was PG also.

576

:

Andy: I think so.

577

:

Katie: It has a 6.9

578

:

on IMDB, which is quite high.

579

:

Andy: Hmm.

580

:

Katie: Chris Columbus

is the director here.

581

:

This is one John Hughes

wrote, but did not direct.

582

:

And Chris Columbus has stated in

interviews that he considers home

583

:

alone two better than the original.

584

:

Andy: I think a lot of

people ha hold that opinion.

585

:

Who did Chris Columbus direct the first

586

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

587

:

Yeah.

588

:

Yeah.

589

:

Yeah.

590

:

Mm-hmm.

591

:

Mm-hmm.

592

:

Andy: Okay.

593

:

I guess maybe I'm in the minority opinion

of that after hearing that people thought

594

:

that and then watching this yesterday.

595

:

With the, a critical eye of, is

this better than the first one?

596

:

I would say that I disagree mainly

because it suffers from the, oh,

597

:

remember when this happened in the

598

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

599

:

Andy: Remember when that

happened in the first?

600

:

I think there's, there's good things

about it, but when you revisiting

601

:

old jokes, they, it's kind of

an obligatory thing that has to

602

:

happen in a successful, sequel.

603

:

And it's like, yeah, okay.

604

:

I, I do remember that was

funny in the first one.

605

:

But they, what they do get right in this

is it nail it like the breadcrumb Rube

606

:

Goldberg way that they establish that

this scenario could happen again to this

607

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

608

:

Andy: it just happened.

609

:

You know, it happens in a believable way

where walking into the movie you're like,

610

:

how, how could this kid be left behind

again, these or the worst parents ever?

611

:

And they figure out a way to.

612

:

Get you on board with it.

613

:

Katie: That's a great point.

614

:

I also, I do not think this

is better than the original.

615

:

Andy: Thank you.

616

:

Katie: I do not.

617

:

I mean there, I think there's a very few

maybe on one hand the number of sequels

618

:

that are better than the original.

619

:

He definitely got paid more for this one.

620

:

Um,

621

:

Andy: Columbus and

622

:

Katie: yes, it was.

623

:

So if you guys haven't seen this movie

in 30 ish years or if it's been a

624

:

while, Kevin McAllister's back, but

this time he's in New York City with

625

:

enough cash and credit cards to turn

the big apple into his own playground.

626

:

But Kevin won't be alone for long.

627

:

The notorious wet bandits now they

call themselves the sticky bandits.

628

:

Harry, played by Joe Pesci, and

Marv played by Daniel Stern.

629

:

Still smarting.

630

:

From their last encounter with Kevin,

they're bound for New York City too.

631

:

Plotting a huge holiday heist.

632

:

Kevin's ready to welcome them with

another battery of booby traps.

633

:

The bumbling bands will never forget.

634

:

Uhhuh, there's a lot of, really

heavy handed foreshadowing.

635

:

We'll get into the cast of characters,

but just really quickly, we do get

636

:

set up the, it's like the exact

same setup , as the original.

637

:

And I found that very comforting.

638

:

The music, seeing their house,

the chaos of you know, of

639

:

the cousins and everything.

640

:

What did you think about the opening.

641

:

Andy: It's interesting that they bring,

there's so many unused cast members,

642

:

these cousins that seemingly could

have a bigger in this movie that are

643

:

just, it's, it's gotta be the easiest

gig in Hollywood being the, the.

644

:

Katie: Cousin A.

645

:

Andy: the second nephew of

Kevin McAllister, I don't

646

:

even know who any of 'em are.

647

:

Like you could not name any of those

kids except Buzz and maybe Karen cu.

648

:

I can't even name Karen Culkin's

character, the kid that wets

649

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

650

:

Mm-hmm.

651

:

Mm-hmm.

652

:

Andy: nobody wants to sleep with

this kid 'cause he wets the bed.

653

:

Yes,

654

:

Katie: Fuller.

655

:

Fuller is Karen's name.

656

:

Yep.

657

:

Andy: Thank you.

658

:

It's awesome to see a, a baby

Kieran Culkin in the movie,

659

:

knowing how far he's gone

660

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

661

:

Andy: you know, be such a big success now.

662

:

And just, I just watched Scott

Pilgrim and he's in that as

663

:

Katie: Oh yeah.

664

:

Andy: yeah.

665

:

So it was fun to see that.

666

:

And they give buzz a lot of at the

top of the film, especially when he

667

:

publicly humiliates Kevin, which.

668

:

I don't understand why

Kevin is to blame at that.

669

:

I mean, they do the whole sequence

where Buzz does his lawyer thing

670

:

and convinces everybody that

he's not really the villain.

671

:

And that's sort of what drives the wedge

between Kevin and his family, which maybe

672

:

is a, a weaker plot point of the movie.

673

:

And there, there was a couple of times

where it was like, this is, not great

674

:

as far as comparing it to the first one.

675

:

Katie: They had to set up the fact that

Kevin would be, again, this time up

676

:

in the third floor I hate my family.

677

:

I wanna go on a vacation by myself.

678

:

the mom's like, you know,

you got your wish last year.

679

:

Maybe you'll get your wish this year.

680

:

Gee, like it's, it is very heavy.

681

:

Andy: Mm-hmm.

682

:

Katie: but then they kind of fake

us out because he, he gets in

683

:

the van, he gets to the airport,

684

:

Andy: even how

685

:

Katie: you know?

686

:

Yeah.

687

:

Andy: left

688

:

Katie: So that was good.

689

:

That was good.

690

:

Let's talk about our cast

of characters a little bit.

691

:

Clearly we have Macaulay

Culkin back as Kevin.

692

:

We have Joe Pesci and Daniel

Stern back as Harry and Marv,

693

:

and they were the wet bandits.

694

:

And I don't know why do they call

themselves the sticky bandits now?

695

:

Do they have tape around

their hand or something?

696

:

What was the deal with that?

697

:

Andy: Stern's walking around with

tape on his hand and he keeps

698

:

snatching hats and gloves, like

petty things that are pointless.

699

:

And I don't know why they

would probably just so that,

700

:

Katie: It's not the same.

701

:

Andy: and so it would be easier

to shoot than having to spill

702

:

a bunch of water all over

703

:

Katie: Mm,

704

:

Andy: set and let the

production have to clean it up.

705

:

The, the production team was

like, let's not do that again.

706

:

It's a disaster.

707

:

And they just figured out an easier,

708

:

Katie: was in the script.

709

:

Andy: thing.

710

:

Katie: Yep.

711

:

Andy: so that

712

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

713

:

Andy: they're escaped convicts now

that they don't wanna leave a trail of.

714

:

So they change it up.

715

:

Maybe.

716

:

Maybe that's logical.

717

:

But, I got, I gotta shout

out Catherine O'Hara too.

718

:

She looks maybe, maybe this is the

best version of Catherine O'Hara to me.

719

:

She looks really good in

this one, I would say,

720

:

Katie: I'm glad that you said that.

721

:

'cause she, yeah, she's

so like fresh and young.

722

:

I, well, I love her as

Moira in Schitt's Creek.

723

:

So that's, that's what

I think of her as now.

724

:

But she's just playing like the

straight mom in this, not like her

725

:

other roles is it Christopher Guest that

has like best in Show a Mighty Wind?

726

:

Is that

727

:

Andy: Yeah.

728

:

Katie: a

729

:

Andy: a lot of character

730

:

Katie: mm-hmm.

731

:

Andy: or, or

732

:

Katie: Beetlejuice.

733

:

Yeah.

734

:

Andy: to mind where she's over the top.

735

:

Katie: Yeah.

736

:

Andy: is pretty straightforward for her.

737

:

Katie: And John Heard is back.

738

:

So we kind of have everybody's,

basically everybody's back.

739

:

Which I think is helpful.

740

:

I'll go.

741

:

Yeah.

742

:

John Heard he's super familiar.

743

:

Everybody knows him.

744

:

He's Kevin's dad.

745

:

He was in Big Awakenings, and then

I did read that he was nominated

746

:

for his guest role in The Sopranos.

747

:

I had forgotten that he was a guest

star playing detective Vin Ian

748

:

Andy: Hmm.

749

:

Katie: in the Sopranos,

750

:

Andy: I don't remember that.

751

:

Katie: John Heard Devin.

752

:

Andy: I, made that connection when

they, they go to Duncan's and I

753

:

was reminded of FAO Schwartz and

the movie Big, which features FAO

754

:

Schwartz the most prominently on film.

755

:

So, yeah, I had that in my notes too.

756

:

yeah, he, he's good.

757

:

He, he's a very likable father

figure as opposed to big where he

758

:

plays a heel and like some other

759

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

760

:

Andy: where he is played a villain.

761

:

He's actually pretty likable in this,

doing some good work as Kevin's dad.

762

:

It becomes pivotal at the airport

763

:

Katie: mm-hmm.

764

:

Andy: do lose

765

:

Katie: Lose him.

766

:

Andy: he's, yeah, he's important here.

767

:

And I just, just to back all the

way up to the beginning, I wanna

768

:

shout out the John Williams score

769

:

Katie: Yes.

770

:

Andy: when

771

:

Katie: Yes.

772

:

Andy: the theme of the movie shows

up and the title credits are rolling.

773

:

And you see that Star Wars composer,

John Williams did the music for this.

774

:

It really sets a nostalgic tone for me.

775

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

776

:

Andy: watched this movie for 30

years now that score is amazing.

777

:

And John Williams' involvement in this

is for, I, I'm a bit of a musician too,

778

:

so I pay a lot of attention to music.

779

:

And, you know, when people like Danny

Elfman, tim Burton's movies or John

780

:

Williams and Jerry Goldsmith too.

781

:

This kind of like, I, I put those

composers together in films that I

782

:

enjoy from this era of movie making.

783

:

So, yeah.

784

:

John Williams killing it?

785

:

Katie: Great point.

786

:

Yeah, it did its job very well.

787

:

I had a comforting like, oh,

I'm at home feeling, you know,

788

:

that's, it drew me in that opening.

789

:

Williams is regarded as one of the most

influential, film composers of all time

790

:

Andy: Mm-hmm.

791

:

Katie: has influenced a lot

of other film composers.

792

:

I did read also that he was

the principal conductor for the

793

:

Boston Pops from 1980 to 1993.

794

:

Andy: Oh,

795

:

Katie: Yeah, yeah.

796

:

And, you know, to your,

797

:

Andy: For.

798

:

Katie: yeah, to your point.

799

:

Frequent collaborations with

George Lucas and Steven Spielberg.

800

:

He has won not nominations, but wins

26 Grammys, four Oscars, seven BAFTAs,

801

:

three Emmys, and four Golden Globes.

802

:

John Williams.

803

:

Andy: Wow.

804

:

Yeah.

805

:

You, you put this soundtrack on

at Christmas time and it takes

806

:

you right to, a fireplace with a

807

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

808

:

Andy: and everything that you want your

holiday season to be can be summed up

809

:

with the, the theme from home alone.

810

:

Katie: Yep.

811

:

A hundred percent.

812

:

Andy: iconic.

813

:

Yeah.

814

:

Katie: Yeah.

815

:

And this movie did well.

816

:

It was in such short succession

to the first one I think that it

817

:

benefited from a lot of the carryover.

818

:

The character playing Buzz.

819

:

We talked about him in another

episode of a John Hughes.

820

:

He was,

821

:

Andy: was it home alone one

because has he been in any, what

822

:

Katie: Yeah, no.

823

:

Well, aside from that, 'cause

we haven't, we haven't actually

824

:

covered home alone one yet.

825

:

But the actor is Devin.

826

:

Re he played the babysitter's

boyfriend in Dennis the menace.

827

:

Andy: Oh,

828

:

Katie: John Hughes wrote that movie.

829

:

Andy: Okay.

830

:

Katie: And we talk about in that episode

there's several movies like Beethoven,

831

:

Dennis the Menace, there's a few others

that he just kind of threw a bunch of home

832

:

alone elements in and it just didn't work.

833

:

I like it at all.

834

:

Andy: is what

835

:

Katie: Yeah.

836

:

Mm-hmm.

837

:

Andy: formula probably.

838

:

All right.

839

:

We're gonna take a kid that's not McCulley

Culkin and just try and make home alone

840

:

again with Walter Mattau and a lookalike

or then baby's day out is probably.

841

:

Lost in New York only.

842

:

It's an infant instead of Macaulay

843

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

844

:

Andy: arguably, you know, but

definitely less successful,

845

:

Katie: Definitely.

846

:

Andy: that movie,

847

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

848

:

So , Kieran Coken played Fuller.

849

:

He's the younger cousin.

850

:

He's not Kevin's brother.

851

:

He's his cousin.

852

:

Right.

853

:

Frank's kid.

854

:

Andy: Right.

855

:

Katie: and we all now know Kieran Coken.

856

:

He, he was lesser known at this

time, and Frank, uncle Frank

857

:

is back played by Jerry Baum.

858

:

Baun Baun.

859

:

That's kind of hard to

say for some reason.

860

:

Do you know him from anything else?

861

:

Andy: No, no.

862

:

But he plays one of the best, you

know, heels or un unlikable jerks the

863

:

cheapness, the character work that

this actor is doing is fantastic in a

864

:

way that you want to dislike this guy.

865

:

Katie: Agreed.

866

:

Yep.

867

:

He he's got that face though.

868

:

You feel like you know

him from other things.

869

:

I did read, he was in the secret

of my success with Michael J.

870

:

Fox.

871

:

I wonder if he was also kind of

a sleazy guy in that probably.

872

:

And then his wife is like this

perfect you know, like church lady

873

:

looking woman, which is kind of wild.

874

:

She's not well known in this Cinta Moses,

I just wanted to bring up her because she

875

:

She got a young artist nomination

for in this Cent Moss, I guess.

876

:

I don't know why.

877

:

Andy: cousin?

878

:

Katie: Yeah, she was

879

:

Andy: there's far too many cousins and

880

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

881

:

Andy: they're given nothing to do.

882

:

It's, it's a bizarre

883

:

Katie: They each have five kids.

884

:

Each brother John heard, and, and Unc

and Frank they each have five kids would.

885

:

That's a lot.

886

:

Andy: Yeah.

887

:

I think.

888

:

Maybe they're there so that

it's easy to lose track

889

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

890

:

That's a great point.

891

:

Andy: reason to have this

many people doing nothing

892

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

893

:

She plays Tracy and she was I

dunno if you've ever watched the

894

:

show, my So called Life on MTV.

895

:

Andy: Sure.

896

:

Yeah.

897

:

Katie: Yeah.

898

:

She was Delia in three episodes of that.

899

:

And she was really most known for the show

Beakman's World, which I never saw that.

900

:

Andy: of it.

901

:

I don't think I watched it, but

902

:

Katie: and Mr.

903

:

Duncan is played by Eddie Bracken.

904

:

Do you know him from anything else?

905

:

Andy: Hmm.

906

:

He looks familiar.

907

:

And that was, that's a great scene

with him and Kevin at the toy store.

908

:

I, I can't think of anything else that

I've seen him in off the top of my head

909

:

Katie: It is John Hughes related.

910

:

That is a marker of John Hughes movies.

911

:

He has his people that he likes,

he played the more or less dis Walt

912

:

Disney in while at Wally World in

913

:

Andy: Oh, okay.

914

:

Yeah.

915

:

Now that's such a short thing

right at the end that, now that you

916

:

mention it, yeah, that's uh, awesome.

917

:

Another beloved where he gets to play

a benevolent person that lets your main

918

:

characters off the hook kinda roll, I

like that they kind of give him this

919

:

magical Santa Claus vibe at the end

of that scene where he gives Kevin the

920

:

turtle doves and then Kevin sees the

portrait and turns around and he's gone.

921

:

It's just kind of a little nod to

Santa Claus or the magic of the

922

:

holiday kinda thing where that makes

the movie a little more charming.

923

:

Katie: Absolutely.

924

:

And that's carried over into the

end when they are all in this

925

:

gigantic suite at the plaza.

926

:

Their family is supposed

to be going to Florida.

927

:

But Kevin gets on the wrong plane, goes

to New York instead, and their suite

928

:

ends up with a giant Christmas tree and

ton of presents and they're from Mr.

929

:

Mr.

930

:

Duncan.

931

:

So he really did play Santa Claus.

932

:

Andy: Yeah.

933

:

That was, those are, and there's a

couple of interesting scenes in this.

934

:

One of them is that scene at the toy

store with Duncan, and then the other one.

935

:

It's, I'm watching it and going,

why is this, they making such

936

:

a meal out of these scenes.

937

:

They go on for a long, long time.

938

:

The conversation that Kevin and

Duncan have, and then the conversation

939

:

that Kevin and the bird lady have

in the rafters of the theater

940

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

941

:

Mm-hmm.

942

:

Andy: her broken heart, and.

943

:

Kevin trying to coach her back into

society when she's a recluse that

944

:

hasn't talked to anybody in two years.

945

:

It's, kind of a strange to insist

on inserting into a movie, but I

946

:

think it gives the, the film heart

947

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

948

:

Andy: maybe the, the point of these.

949

:

They're trying to inject magic of

the season and sympathy and let's all

950

:

help each other kind of holiday vibes.

951

:

Katie: Yeah, because

952

:

Andy: I think that's the

953

:

Katie: I, I.

954

:

Andy: on for very long.

955

:

Am I

956

:

Katie: No, no, you're not.

957

:

There's a few that go on

for a really long time.

958

:

Like that one, had a purpose behind it.

959

:

It was the impetus of Kevin being

like, oh, I'm gonna save the store.

960

:

You know, that isn't soon after

that conversation that he like,

961

:

goes and starts, collecting

all his booby trap items.

962

:

Then there are other scenes with Marv

and Harry, all of those, like the booby

963

:

traps, essentially a lot of those go

on for far too long and for no reason.

964

:

And they were just, in my

opinion, just kind of reusing.

965

:

I really wish they would've got more

creative with the booby traps, because

966

:

did we get anything new really?

967

:

Andy: Hmm.

968

:

Katie: know?

969

:

Andy: Yeah.

970

:

Without the exception of big

hole in the floor, like we didn't

971

:

Katie: Yes.

972

:

Yeah.

973

:

Andy: in Kevin's house,

so that, that was good.

974

:

And it does go to a very cartoonish

level that I feel was not in

975

:

Katie: The first one?

976

:

Mm-hmm.

977

:

Mm-hmm.

978

:

Andy: you're watching these guys

take so much abuse a, a normal

979

:

person would not be able to.

980

:

Especially the brick scene in this

981

:

Katie: Oh my God.

982

:

Yeah.

983

:

Andy: is one of those bricks and

you're potentially dead, but by the

984

:

time they get to the fourth one,

it just gets funnier and funnier.

985

:

And I'm a, I'm a fan of the Three

Stooges and Roadrunner cartoons, so I

986

:

did like seeing a lot of this slapstick

humor, but I don't know if you've seen

987

:

The Third Home Alone, which probably

is, doesn't involve John Hughes and

988

:

Katie: No.

989

:

Andy: McCaulay Culkin, and goes

all in on the villains and colorful

990

:

crap, and the, the hair frizzing

991

:

Katie: Hmm.

992

:

Andy: when Daniel Stern turns

into the skeleton, when he is

993

:

getting electrocuted, and it

994

:

Katie: A lot of that,

995

:

Andy: so much more cartoonish.

996

:

the failure of the third one.

997

:

But, we're not talking

about the third one anyway.

998

:

The this, the second one just

goes, it goes a little over

999

:

Katie: right?

:

00:42:59,297 --> 00:43:03,767

Andy: I mean, it's already making

you suspend disbelief that these guys

:

00:43:03,767 --> 00:43:10,517

aren't just cutting and running or

calling an ambulance because Marv

:

00:43:10,517 --> 00:43:13,127

has taken a nail gun to the crotch.

:

00:43:13,127 --> 00:43:15,017

So I, I would be done after that.

:

00:43:15,107 --> 00:43:15,377

You know?

:

00:43:15,462 --> 00:43:15,882

That's,

:

00:43:17,012 --> 00:43:18,872

Katie: I, at first I wondered what it was.

:

00:43:18,872 --> 00:43:21,692

I was like, is it staples or is it nails?

:

00:43:21,722 --> 00:43:22,142

Yeah.

:

00:43:22,352 --> 00:43:22,712

Yeah.

:

00:43:23,041 --> 00:43:23,731

Andy: It's fun.

:

00:43:23,731 --> 00:43:26,371

I love every time Joe Pesci iss on screen.

:

00:43:26,471 --> 00:43:26,691

Katie: Mm.

:

00:43:27,331 --> 00:43:31,771

Andy: remember that this time,

Joe Pesci is riding the wave of

:

00:43:32,141 --> 00:43:32,561

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:43:32,941 --> 00:43:39,451

Andy: and Casino, these home alone

films and the Lethal Weapon franchise.

:

00:43:39,451 --> 00:43:42,361

He's a megastar and.

:

00:43:44,101 --> 00:43:46,501

very apparent when you're

watching him on screen.

:

00:43:46,501 --> 00:43:53,971

He's got just this charm that

excuses all of his bad behavior

:

00:43:54,316 --> 00:43:55,066

Katie: Great way of putting it.

:

00:43:55,891 --> 00:43:58,351

Andy: yeah, I just, I just

love Joe Peche so much.

:

00:43:58,381 --> 00:43:59,491

And Daniel Stern too.

:

00:43:59,731 --> 00:44:00,091

He's,

:

00:44:00,256 --> 00:44:01,336

Katie: I think they're a good duo.

:

00:44:01,386 --> 00:44:06,756

Joe Peche has a manner of speaking that I

just, I am, I'm all for, for some reason

:

00:44:06,756 --> 00:44:12,426

that, that really new Yorkie, like shady

type of guy I can't get enough of it,

:

00:44:12,426 --> 00:44:13,986

but yeah, Daniel Stern's really good too.

:

00:44:14,406 --> 00:44:15,336

The bird lady.

:

00:44:15,531 --> 00:44:17,521

Andy: some Abbott and Costello vibes.

:

00:44:17,521 --> 00:44:17,641

Katie: Mm.

:

00:44:17,701 --> 00:44:19,201

Andy: will, to

:

00:44:19,231 --> 00:44:19,771

Katie: Okay.

:

00:44:19,891 --> 00:44:24,451

Andy: up talking about those two, you,

you got Daniel Stern running around like

:

00:44:24,451 --> 00:44:27,751

a Lou Costello calling out for Harry.

:

00:44:27,811 --> 00:44:28,471

The way that.

:

00:44:28,861 --> 00:44:30,601

He would call out for Abbott.

:

00:44:30,601 --> 00:44:35,576

That was reminded me of when they were

in the basement taking all the abuse.

:

00:44:35,691 --> 00:44:36,506

Katie: That tracks.

:

00:44:37,076 --> 00:44:42,326

Andy: Yeah, they, but Abbott Costello

meet the Wolf man kinda, but the

:

00:44:42,326 --> 00:44:43,886

Wolf man is Kevin McAllister.

:

00:44:46,016 --> 00:44:48,296

Katie: So I did wanna

call out the pigeon lady.

:

00:44:48,506 --> 00:44:54,776

She's an Irish actress who actually won an

Oscar for best supporting in my left foot.

:

00:44:55,521 --> 00:44:55,811

Andy: Yeah,

:

00:44:56,216 --> 00:44:59,516

Katie: Also, she was in a time to

kill, and so I married an ax murderer.

:

00:44:59,816 --> 00:45:02,456

Her name is Brenda Fricker.

:

00:45:02,456 --> 00:45:02,546

And.

:

00:45:04,331 --> 00:45:08,891

Apparently that character, the pigeon

lady, was based on the old bird

:

00:45:08,891 --> 00:45:12,491

woman from Mary Poppins in:

:

00:45:13,436 --> 00:45:14,126

Andy: I could see that.

:

00:45:14,226 --> 00:45:15,726

It's an interesting.

:

00:45:16,611 --> 00:45:25,041

Direction to take from the creepy shovel

slayer neighbor in the first one to, and

:

00:45:25,041 --> 00:45:30,051

this is another trope of John Hughes,

the, when I was saying at the top of

:

00:45:30,051 --> 00:45:38,031

the discussion about class warfare and

poverty, there are so many instances in

:

00:45:38,031 --> 00:45:47,781

different where, particularly Curly Sue

and Dutch, where you're confronted with

:

00:45:49,221 --> 00:45:55,581

and the have-nots, and he just makes

you go, you got, you got a pretty good

:

00:45:55,581 --> 00:45:57,591

person in the movie theater watching this.

:

00:45:57,621 --> 00:45:59,181

It could be a lot worse.

:

00:45:59,181 --> 00:46:04,881

You could be in Central Park

covered in bird shit, and don't

:

00:46:04,911 --> 00:46:06,321

need that in a Christmas movie.

:

00:46:06,441 --> 00:46:10,881

I guess it, it gives Kevin a reason

to, it gives him something to fight

:

00:46:10,881 --> 00:46:17,491

for There's the heart of the movie

there, but it's, I don't know.

:

00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:19,976

What did you think about

the character in general?

:

00:46:19,976 --> 00:46:22,556

Did you, could you, I felt

like if it wasn't in the movie

:

00:46:22,556 --> 00:46:23,606

at all, I'd be fine with it.

:

00:46:23,906 --> 00:46:27,286

Katie: Well, there's, she was

clearly playing the old neighbor.

:

00:46:27,286 --> 00:46:30,176

There has to be someone

that is misunderstood.

:

00:46:30,556 --> 00:46:32,086

She's the standin for the neighbor.

:

00:46:32,086 --> 00:46:32,536

Right.

:

00:46:33,076 --> 00:46:34,456

And, and that person,

:

00:46:34,996 --> 00:46:35,926

Andy: for Kevin to learn

:

00:46:36,196 --> 00:46:37,156

Katie: yeah.

:

00:46:37,246 --> 00:46:38,296

Andy: a character,

:

00:46:38,356 --> 00:46:39,856

Katie: Yes, I guess.

:

00:46:39,856 --> 00:46:44,976

And 'cause , he gives her the half of the

dove, the turtle, dove necklace and like

:

00:46:44,976 --> 00:46:50,286

friendship because in both, so in the

original two, like he learns from the, the

:

00:46:50,286 --> 00:46:52,956

old man and the old man learns from Kevin.

:

00:46:52,956 --> 00:46:54,726

And the same is true here.

:

00:46:54,906 --> 00:46:56,226

Like it's just the same.

:

00:46:56,376 --> 00:46:59,076

You had to have that character,

that imparts wisdom on Kevin,

:

00:46:59,076 --> 00:47:01,146

but then Kevin helps that person,

:

00:47:01,506 --> 00:47:01,836

Andy: Yes.

:

00:47:01,956 --> 00:47:03,486

Katie: you know, maybe,

:

00:47:03,681 --> 00:47:06,741

Andy: forget you, and I'll

also never see you again.

:

00:47:07,146 --> 00:47:12,606

Katie: well, so my thought on that

exactly is, and I just said this in

:

00:47:12,606 --> 00:47:19,576

Dutch too, like maybe invite her in

he leaves his beautiful Christmas

:

00:47:19,576 --> 00:47:22,186

plaza to go give her the turtle dove.

:

00:47:22,486 --> 00:47:26,236

Maybe say, Hey, come join my

family celebration for Christmas.

:

00:47:26,236 --> 00:47:26,596

You're,

:

00:47:26,731 --> 00:47:27,301

Andy: Yeah.

:

00:47:27,466 --> 00:47:28,096

Katie: you don't.

:

00:47:28,411 --> 00:47:30,061

Andy: that gave you all those presents?

:

00:47:30,061 --> 00:47:35,911

Maybe introduce your homeless friend

to EF Duncan that, and maybe they can

:

00:47:36,091 --> 00:47:38,701

hook up and she could have a better life

:

00:47:38,751 --> 00:47:39,321

Of the movie

:

00:47:39,411 --> 00:47:41,631

Katie: yeah, the same happened in Dutch.

:

00:47:41,631 --> 00:47:44,781

I'm like, oh, great, the homeless

people drop you off at your mansion.

:

00:47:44,961 --> 00:47:46,041

Bye bye now.

:

00:47:46,141 --> 00:47:50,371

Invite these people in, or at least

pay for them to have a, another

:

00:47:50,371 --> 00:47:52,351

room that was a missed opportunity.

:

00:47:52,351 --> 00:47:57,551

They just go back to their very, these

McAllisters are very well off, so

:

00:47:57,551 --> 00:48:01,161

they just go back to, I think it's a

missed opportunity if Fuse is trying

:

00:48:01,161 --> 00:48:06,291

to show us, yes, you should be thankful

for the things you have, and they

:

00:48:06,291 --> 00:48:12,411

do learn lessons, but it, it's stops

short of like real progress, you know?

:

00:48:12,501 --> 00:48:12,891

Don't you think?

:

00:48:13,956 --> 00:48:14,496

Andy: Yes.

:

00:48:14,496 --> 00:48:21,486

There's a message with no call to action

of let's, at least at the end of Scrooge,

:

00:48:21,576 --> 00:48:23,616

where the homeless people freeze to death.

:

00:48:24,016 --> 00:48:28,786

At the end they all sing together and

wanna put a little love in your heart.

:

00:48:28,786 --> 00:48:31,336

And this is just like, Hey, see ya.

:

00:48:31,336 --> 00:48:35,656

I gotta go back to my five star

hotel and with my millionaire

:

00:48:35,656 --> 00:48:37,246

family, and you're not invited.

:

00:48:37,996 --> 00:48:38,806

It's kinda shitty,

:

00:48:38,821 --> 00:48:39,241

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:48:39,826 --> 00:48:40,966

Andy: kinda, its kinda

just kind shitty person.

:

00:48:41,764 --> 00:48:44,074

Katie: As a kid I was

like, oh, that's nice.

:

00:48:44,224 --> 00:48:44,734

They're friends.

:

00:48:44,734 --> 00:48:47,374

But now as an adult I'm like, help her.

:

00:48:47,884 --> 00:48:49,234

Do something meaningful.

:

00:48:49,774 --> 00:48:50,284

Yeah,

:

00:48:50,334 --> 00:48:52,434

Andy: You give her half of a

Christmas ornament, and she's like,

:

00:48:52,434 --> 00:48:53,664

what am I supposed to do with this?

:

00:48:53,904 --> 00:48:54,204

Katie: yeah.

:

00:48:54,354 --> 00:48:54,864

Andy: birds.

:

00:48:54,894 --> 00:48:55,644

But it's,

:

00:48:56,494 --> 00:48:58,054

Can't even trade this for anything.

:

00:48:58,354 --> 00:48:59,884

Katie: I gotta buy bird seed for them.

:

00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:04,114

I, I don't need well, speaking of Joe

Peshy being charming in this, he he

:

00:49:04,114 --> 00:49:07,554

was nominated for funniest supporting

actor in I didn't even know these

:

00:49:07,554 --> 00:49:11,184

awards existed, American Comedy

Awards, but they did at the time.

:

00:49:12,064 --> 00:49:15,509

Andy: The other day, I want, I

Want Academy Award, maybe not

:

00:49:15,509 --> 00:49:20,704

Academy Awards or some kind of

awards, categories that recognize

:

00:49:20,824 --> 00:49:21,394

Katie: comedy,

:

00:49:21,454 --> 00:49:21,694

Andy: and

:

00:49:21,964 --> 00:49:22,384

Katie: yeah.

:

00:49:22,384 --> 00:49:22,684

Mm-hmm.

:

00:49:22,894 --> 00:49:24,424

Andy: they're so overlooked

:

00:49:24,484 --> 00:49:25,084

Katie: I agreed.

:

00:49:25,084 --> 00:49:30,544

Andy: underappreciated and possibly

the most cared about genres of movie.

:

00:49:30,784 --> 00:49:31,144

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:49:31,759 --> 00:49:33,649

Andy: just get zero recognition.

:

00:49:33,649 --> 00:49:40,549

They, they always turn

a, a comedy award into

:

00:49:41,104 --> 00:49:42,514

Katie: Like a musical or something.

:

00:49:42,739 --> 00:49:43,009

Andy: yeah.

:

00:49:43,009 --> 00:49:46,939

A vehicle for somebody to get that

from Some, remember when Johnny

:

00:49:46,939 --> 00:49:52,729

Depp won best comedy actor for that

piece of crap that he made with

:

00:49:52,849 --> 00:49:54,649

Angelina, Joe Lee, the tourist.

:

00:49:55,249 --> 00:49:57,409

Katie: No, I don't, I don't even,

I don't think I've seen that movie.

:

00:49:57,469 --> 00:49:57,889

No.

:

00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:02,809

Andy: I didn't see it either, but

my point is, he was winning comedic

:

00:50:02,809 --> 00:50:04,429

awards for a movie that wasn't a

:

00:50:04,864 --> 00:50:05,084

Katie: Mm,

:

00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:06,559

Andy: they were just trying to figure

:

00:50:06,734 --> 00:50:07,154

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

00:50:07,759 --> 00:50:09,229

Andy: give Johnny Depp an award.

:

00:50:09,229 --> 00:50:14,029

And it just makes me angry that the

two genres that I care the most about

:

00:50:14,029 --> 00:50:18,379

get zero recognition, almost constantly

:

00:50:18,379 --> 00:50:18,799

Katie: right.

:

00:50:18,799 --> 00:50:19,489

You're right.

:

00:50:19,909 --> 00:50:20,209

Andy: too.

:

00:50:20,209 --> 00:50:20,569

Action.

:

00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:23,749

They, you gotta die for

Heath Ledger to get a.

:

00:50:24,234 --> 00:50:24,654

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:50:24,739 --> 00:50:27,589

Andy: for Batman, you know,

that, that never, he never

:

00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:29,359

would've wanted an Oscar for that

:

00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:29,779

Katie: No.

:

00:50:29,899 --> 00:50:30,079

Andy: if

:

00:50:30,109 --> 00:50:30,649

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:50:30,919 --> 00:50:31,549

Agreed.

:

00:50:31,549 --> 00:50:32,179

Andy: So,

:

00:50:32,339 --> 00:50:38,164

Katie: didn't, didn't they just

introduce a stunt work category, like

:

00:50:38,189 --> 00:50:39,869

just within the last couple years?

:

00:50:40,409 --> 00:50:43,749

Andy: But yeah I'm not sure,

but that, that's long overdue,

:

00:50:43,749 --> 00:50:45,429

Katie: Yeah, yeah,

:

00:50:45,429 --> 00:50:46,629

Andy: and that's a cool category.

:

00:50:46,629 --> 00:50:46,899

I like

:

00:50:47,049 --> 00:50:47,499

Katie: yeah.

:

00:50:47,769 --> 00:50:48,069

Andy: But,

:

00:50:48,819 --> 00:50:50,989

Katie: that gets to your

action, I guess, a little bit.

:

00:50:51,389 --> 00:50:57,299

The movie itself tied with Sister Act

for the People's Choice Awards that year.

:

00:50:57,299 --> 00:51:01,439

Favorite comedy and Macaulay was

nominated for the Kids' Choice Awards.

:

00:51:01,439 --> 00:51:04,079

And then we talked about that

Santa Moses Young artist.

:

00:51:04,449 --> 00:51:10,239

The budget here is 28,000,004

and a half million of that

:

00:51:10,479 --> 00:51:12,129

was McCulley Culkin salary.

:

00:51:12,614 --> 00:51:13,034

Mm-hmm.

:

00:51:13,059 --> 00:51:13,389

Andy: Well.

:

00:51:14,484 --> 00:51:18,564

I mean, he was a megastar after

the first one, so, and then you

:

00:51:18,564 --> 00:51:23,934

were talking $92 everybody, 4

million for a, for a 9-year-old.

:

00:51:24,804 --> 00:51:25,614

pretty awesome.

:

00:51:25,869 --> 00:51:26,319

Katie: point.

:

00:51:26,379 --> 00:51:30,609

And I guess that was at that time the

biggest salary ever for a child star.

:

00:51:31,569 --> 00:51:35,709

And it's, this says 45 times

his salary for home alone.

:

00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:37,269

So Katie sucks at math.

:

00:51:38,289 --> 00:51:40,989

What, what did he get a

hundred thousand dollars for?

:

00:51:40,989 --> 00:51:41,469

Home alone.

:

00:51:41,469 --> 00:51:43,089

Would that, is that, is that right?

:

00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:44,649

45.

:

00:51:44,754 --> 00:51:46,944

Andy: I didn't know where you're,

this was gonna be part of the

:

00:51:47,229 --> 00:51:48,369

Katie: I know, I know.

:

00:51:48,369 --> 00:51:49,119

I'm like math.

:

00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:49,354

I don't know.

:

00:51:49,779 --> 00:51:50,619

I can't do math.

:

00:51:50,844 --> 00:51:51,384

Andy: It was a lot

:

00:51:51,429 --> 00:51:52,389

Katie: It was a lot.

:

00:51:52,434 --> 00:51:52,674

Andy: to say.

:

00:51:54,256 --> 00:51:58,636

I have to make sure to bring

up one of my favorite parts of

:

00:51:58,636 --> 00:52:01,006

the movie, which is Tim Curry.

:

00:52:02,176 --> 00:52:05,256

It's, I love clue and.

:

00:52:06,336 --> 00:52:10,746

And Legend and Oscar and

obviously Rocky Horror Picture

:

00:52:10,761 --> 00:52:11,806

Katie: Love Tim Curry.

:

00:52:12,996 --> 00:52:19,206

Andy: just seeing him in this is one

of the better parts of the movie to me.

:

00:52:19,536 --> 00:52:24,421

A they beef up the villains

that Kevin has to foil.

:

00:52:24,421 --> 00:52:25,441

It can't always just

:

00:52:25,726 --> 00:52:26,146

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:52:26,161 --> 00:52:27,331

Andy: Harry and Marv, I guess.

:

00:52:27,511 --> 00:52:27,691

Katie: It,

:

00:52:27,751 --> 00:52:28,231

Andy: they

:

00:52:28,291 --> 00:52:29,521

Katie: it's a whole hotel staff.

:

00:52:30,151 --> 00:52:30,481

Yep.

:

00:52:30,691 --> 00:52:31,351

Andy: Schneider.

:

00:52:31,351 --> 00:52:38,771

And the other woman play great, like

Cartoonishly smarmy of the hotel.

:

00:52:39,161 --> 00:52:41,261

Katie: she also from the Adams family?

:

00:52:41,351 --> 00:52:46,001

That woman who, like one of the

front desk people, she looked,

:

00:52:46,271 --> 00:52:47,621

she wasn't listed in the cast.

:

00:52:48,011 --> 00:52:48,491

She looked,

:

00:52:48,701 --> 00:52:51,101

Andy: yeah, I don't think,

is she, she's just in that

:

00:52:51,306 --> 00:52:55,211

Katie: I, I feel like she was like

somebody's wife, like cousin, it's wife

:

00:52:55,211 --> 00:52:56,861

or something like that at the ball.

:

00:52:56,901 --> 00:53:00,501

, And Tim Curry being on my brain.

:

00:53:00,601 --> 00:53:01,501

In my brain.

:

00:53:01,561 --> 00:53:06,507

I always confuse Tim Curry

and um, Adam's family.

:

00:53:06,617 --> 00:53:07,307

What's his name?

:

00:53:07,824 --> 00:53:09,474

Who plays Gomez in Adam's family?

:

00:53:10,114 --> 00:53:10,334

Andy: Oh

:

00:53:11,399 --> 00:53:12,599

Katie: he's passed away now.

:

00:53:12,629 --> 00:53:13,739

He was in Street Fighter.

:

00:53:13,869 --> 00:53:14,989

Andy: M Bison in the

:

00:53:15,139 --> 00:53:16,159

Katie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:53:16,389 --> 00:53:16,949

Andy: Fighter movie.

:

00:53:17,049 --> 00:53:17,339

Yeah.

:

00:53:17,344 --> 00:53:17,624

Yeah.

:

00:53:17,984 --> 00:53:20,084

I don't know him from a lot of things and

:

00:53:21,259 --> 00:53:22,519

Katie: Raul, Julia,

:

00:53:23,494 --> 00:53:24,352

Andy: Ah, yes.

:

00:53:24,352 --> 00:53:29,302

Katie: I don't know why in

my brain I sometimes confuse

:

00:53:29,362 --> 00:53:31,042

Tim Curry and Raul Julia.

:

00:53:31,442 --> 00:53:31,952

Just me.

:

00:53:32,132 --> 00:53:33,032

Andy: Oh yeah.

:

00:53:33,392 --> 00:53:33,722

I see.

:

00:53:33,722 --> 00:53:34,322

I don't know.

:

00:53:35,552 --> 00:53:40,442

He's Ralph Julie probably has a

larger filmography than I'm aware of.

:

00:53:40,442 --> 00:53:43,562

I don't really know him from

anything other than Adams

:

00:53:43,562 --> 00:53:45,092

Stanley and Street Fighter.

:

00:53:45,527 --> 00:53:45,767

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

00:53:46,052 --> 00:53:49,412

Andy: But Tim, Tim

Curry's more, prolific, I

:

00:53:49,727 --> 00:53:50,207

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:53:51,032 --> 00:53:51,452

Andy: but

:

00:53:51,467 --> 00:53:55,997

Katie: And he plays the concierge that

is very suspicious of Kevin, you guys.

:

00:53:55,997 --> 00:53:57,947

That's who Tim Curry plays in this.

:

00:53:58,082 --> 00:54:04,322

Andy: yeah, I let the cross dissolve from

the Grinch to Tim Curry when the credit

:

00:54:04,322 --> 00:54:12,182

card up stolen and when Catherine O'Hara

slaps him in the face at, at the hotel.

:

00:54:12,422 --> 00:54:13,232

These are just

:

00:54:13,367 --> 00:54:15,047

Katie: I forgot about that.

:

00:54:15,137 --> 00:54:15,707

Yeah.

:

00:54:15,712 --> 00:54:16,097

Yeah.

:

00:54:16,322 --> 00:54:20,402

Andy: favorite moments in the film

include Tim Curry, who's always.

:

00:54:21,347 --> 00:54:22,037

Killing it.

:

00:54:22,637 --> 00:54:27,827

And gonna talk about the hotel, we

should probably bring up the Trump cameo,

:

00:54:28,007 --> 00:54:34,067

which has gone on to be edited out a

lot of, a lot of televised versions of

:

00:54:34,382 --> 00:54:34,922

Katie: Oh, is that,

:

00:54:35,117 --> 00:54:37,547

Andy: But yeah, I've seen, I've

:

00:54:37,592 --> 00:54:38,192

Katie: Okay.

:

00:54:38,237 --> 00:54:42,887

Andy: this movie on network where they

just edit that straight out of the movie.

:

00:54:42,887 --> 00:54:46,134

But back then it was just

a blinking, you missed

:

00:54:46,329 --> 00:54:46,659

Katie: Yeah,

:

00:54:46,944 --> 00:54:53,454

Andy: you, it was very interesting to

see him just turn up in this movie, but,

:

00:54:53,769 --> 00:54:56,019

Katie: because did he own

the hotel at that time?

:

00:54:56,334 --> 00:54:56,604

Andy: that.

:

00:54:56,604 --> 00:54:58,464

Well, that's when I was

watching it last night with my

:

00:54:58,464 --> 00:55:00,054

wife, she said, that's weird.

:

00:55:00,084 --> 00:55:02,364

'cause the Trump Hotel is not this hotel.

:

00:55:02,454 --> 00:55:05,304

So why is he at a hotel that's not his?

:

00:55:05,394 --> 00:55:07,674

, Katie: The requirement

for shooting in the hotel.

:

00:55:07,674 --> 00:55:10,944

So he must have had some stake

in the Plaza Hotel at the time.

:

00:55:11,439 --> 00:55:11,559

Andy: Oh,

:

00:55:11,754 --> 00:55:15,954

Katie: so it was a, it, they were

obliged to put him in the movie if

:

00:55:15,954 --> 00:55:18,674

they wanted to to use the hotel.

:

00:55:18,709 --> 00:55:19,129

Mm-hmm.

:

00:55:19,259 --> 00:55:19,859

Andy: I guess.

:

00:55:19,859 --> 00:55:22,549

And it is just mm, I iconic New Yorker

:

00:55:22,619 --> 00:55:23,879

Katie: There's a couple other cameos.

:

00:55:23,879 --> 00:55:27,449

Rob Schneider is the bellboy, did

they call him Cric instead of Cedric?

:

00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:27,809

Anyway,

:

00:55:27,929 --> 00:55:28,259

Andy: yeah.

:

00:55:28,259 --> 00:55:29,489

Cedric or, yeah.

:

00:55:29,579 --> 00:55:32,792

And that's another great tip of the uh,

:

00:55:33,032 --> 00:55:33,362

Katie: fruit,

:

00:55:33,452 --> 00:55:33,782

Andy: gum,

:

00:55:33,992 --> 00:55:36,332

Katie: striped gum back in the day.

:

00:55:36,482 --> 00:55:38,942

Andy: of the shittiest candy ever created.

:

00:55:38,942 --> 00:55:41,222

Katie: don't know why I loved

it though, when I was a kid

:

00:55:41,222 --> 00:55:42,422

Andy: Everybody likes it.

:

00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:43,052

And then you put it in

:

00:55:43,082 --> 00:55:44,342

Katie: for 10 seconds.

:

00:55:44,432 --> 00:55:47,642

Andy: anything after, well,

grand total of five seconds.

:

00:55:47,702 --> 00:55:48,122

It,

:

00:55:48,422 --> 00:55:50,642

It is just funny that, and then.

:

00:55:52,412 --> 00:55:58,382

Because it goes from that to the, the

comedic beat of him offering the tip.

:

00:55:58,442 --> 00:55:59,162

That's actual

:

00:55:59,402 --> 00:55:59,642

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

00:55:59,702 --> 00:56:03,692

Andy: thinks that he is gonna get

gum, so he declines it to the, the,

:

00:56:03,932 --> 00:56:04,652

Katie: Buzz.

:

00:56:04,712 --> 00:56:06,092

Andy: rule of threes.

:

00:56:06,092 --> 00:56:12,812

Why would Buzz give this guy that

he's never met that he's chew as a

:

00:56:13,262 --> 00:56:20,252

kid, obviously older person, that gets

what a tip is to pull gum outta your

:

00:56:20,252 --> 00:56:22,352

mouth and put it in somebody's hand.

:

00:56:22,352 --> 00:56:23,792

It, it just didn't make sense

:

00:56:23,792 --> 00:56:25,712

Katie: It's just Buzz is a dick.

:

00:56:25,772 --> 00:56:26,072

You know?

:

00:56:26,072 --> 00:56:26,642

He's like that

:

00:56:26,702 --> 00:56:27,272

Andy: Yeah,

:

00:56:27,362 --> 00:56:27,962

Katie: older brother.

:

00:56:27,962 --> 00:56:29,522

Andy: It's funny, but

it doesn't make sense.

:

00:56:29,762 --> 00:56:30,272

Katie: Agreed.

:

00:56:30,362 --> 00:56:30,902

Agreed.

:

00:56:31,022 --> 00:56:31,292

Andy: Yeah.

:

00:56:31,352 --> 00:56:35,487

Katie: you, did you track Ali

Sheety, another John Hughes lady?

:

00:56:35,957 --> 00:56:41,627

Andy: Yeah, my, my wife was

going off about how bad her

:

00:56:41,627 --> 00:56:44,727

teeth were and lose track.

:

00:56:44,847 --> 00:56:46,947

I think I was taking

co, I was taking copious

:

00:56:46,947 --> 00:56:47,367

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

00:56:47,397 --> 00:56:49,617

Andy: while I was watching this

too, so I could, I was probably

:

00:56:49,817 --> 00:56:50,307

Katie: Writing,

:

00:56:50,457 --> 00:56:55,287

Andy: that Tim Curry's ever been in

when Ali Sheety scene came on and

:

00:56:55,407 --> 00:56:57,297

I looked up and she goes, blonde.

:

00:56:57,297 --> 00:56:58,077

So

:

00:56:58,247 --> 00:56:58,537

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:56:58,587 --> 00:57:02,607

Andy: didn't register with me, but

I, and my wife was yelling that

:

00:57:02,607 --> 00:57:06,927

her teeth are jacked and I, and I

said, I think that's Ellie Sheie.

:

00:57:07,317 --> 00:57:10,212

But that was un I was uncertain.

:

00:57:10,302 --> 00:57:10,872

So, yeah, it's

:

00:57:10,977 --> 00:57:12,297

Katie: Definitely, yeah.

:

00:57:12,477 --> 00:57:16,247

Ali Shedi, ticket agent all

famously in breakfast club.

:

00:57:16,727 --> 00:57:20,817

And then Chris Columbus

was director cameo.

:

00:57:21,117 --> 00:57:25,187

Chris Columbus, , is holding a child

and pointing to a stack of toys when

:

00:57:25,187 --> 00:57:26,747

Kevin walks through the toy store.

:

00:57:27,137 --> 00:57:27,587

Andy: Right.

:

00:57:27,587 --> 00:57:31,337

So you, that you're not Alfred

Hitchcock, Christopher Columbus.

:

00:57:31,337 --> 00:57:32,687

People don't know that it's

:

00:57:32,837 --> 00:57:33,127

Katie: Yeah,

:

00:57:33,797 --> 00:57:36,707

Andy: can't, when you, you

have to be recognizable for

:

00:57:36,707 --> 00:57:39,017

that to be charming in a movie.

:

00:57:39,782 --> 00:57:40,802

Katie: true, true.

:

00:57:40,907 --> 00:57:41,297

Andy: Yeah.

:

00:57:41,372 --> 00:57:41,762

Katie: I think.

:

00:57:41,897 --> 00:57:42,767

Andy: can pull it off.

:

00:57:42,797 --> 00:57:43,397

Katie: Agreed.

:

00:57:43,547 --> 00:57:45,767

I do think a lot of people

found this charming.

:

00:57:45,767 --> 00:57:50,047

And it also, I think just coming off,

in short succession to the first one.

:

00:57:50,047 --> 00:57:55,357

The first one was a mega hit,

so this one also, it made $359

:

00:57:55,357 --> 00:57:57,577

million, and that's the $92.

:

00:57:57,577 --> 00:57:57,967

That's

:

00:57:58,207 --> 00:57:58,537

Andy: Hmm.

:

00:57:58,537 --> 00:57:59,647

Katie: pretty enormous.

:

00:57:59,887 --> 00:58:02,557

I, I didn't calculate what

that would be now, but,

:

00:58:02,587 --> 00:58:02,947

Andy: Yeah.

:

00:58:03,217 --> 00:58:04,987

That su, that supersede the first one

:

00:58:05,287 --> 00:58:06,277

Katie: Hmm.

:

00:58:06,974 --> 00:58:08,234

Good question.

:

00:58:08,474 --> 00:58:08,714

Andy: Mm-hmm.

:

00:58:09,044 --> 00:58:12,734

Because like I said, the, the

first one was a sensation.

:

00:58:12,734 --> 00:58:14,264

It was a mega hit.

:

00:58:14,264 --> 00:58:16,154

People were waiting in line to see it.

:

00:58:16,154 --> 00:58:16,664

Me being

:

00:58:16,734 --> 00:58:17,154

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

00:58:17,684 --> 00:58:21,434

Andy: and seeing it over and over

again, people, people would want to

:

00:58:22,364 --> 00:58:26,684

go tell their parents about it and

bring their parents to see it too.

:

00:58:26,714 --> 00:58:30,074

Bring their, you know,

everybody wanted to see it twice

:

00:58:30,374 --> 00:58:33,334

Katie: The numbers are a bit all

over the place, but the first one

:

00:58:33,334 --> 00:58:35,014

made more money than the second one.

:

00:58:35,284 --> 00:58:35,584

Yeah.

:

00:58:35,584 --> 00:58:36,124

Andy: okay.

:

00:58:36,304 --> 00:58:37,744

Katie: Which tr I mean, that makes sense.

:

00:58:37,804 --> 00:58:40,654

I, I didn't stand in line

to watch it like you did, so

:

00:58:41,824 --> 00:58:43,534

Andy: I be, you weren't a loser like me.

:

00:58:43,804 --> 00:58:45,694

Katie: I no, I, I don't know.

:

00:58:45,844 --> 00:58:46,324

Andy: to do.

:

00:58:46,474 --> 00:58:48,364

Katie: I don't know what

I was doing at that time.

:

00:58:48,934 --> 00:58:52,654

Do you think that they

used New York enough?

:

00:58:52,704 --> 00:58:54,744

What do you think about

the New York backdrop?

:

00:58:55,224 --> 00:58:55,974

Andy: And that's funny.

:

00:58:56,064 --> 00:59:01,484

I, that was the very first thing I

put in my notes I thought that it

:

00:59:01,484 --> 00:59:06,764

is minimized for such a iconic city.

:

00:59:06,764 --> 00:59:10,994

They just do a montage at the

top where he goes from uptown to

:

00:59:10,994 --> 00:59:13,424

downtown in a matter of seconds.

:

00:59:13,424 --> 00:59:16,094

And my question was going to,

have you been to New York?

:

00:59:16,274 --> 00:59:16,814

Katie: I have.

:

00:59:17,144 --> 00:59:17,504

Mm-hmm.

:

00:59:17,924 --> 00:59:22,154

Andy: So you know that the way

to visit New York is to pick one

:

00:59:22,154 --> 00:59:24,974

section that you're interested

in and basically stay there.

:

00:59:24,974 --> 00:59:31,064

You don't wanna be running all over,

spending half of your time navigating

:

00:59:31,064 --> 00:59:38,804

the subway and getting lost in Times

Square and ending up in the West Village.

:

00:59:38,804 --> 00:59:47,774

It's, it's better to just go to Tribeca

and spend the weekend there and for

:

00:59:48,134 --> 00:59:53,654

them to just sort of be like, oh yeah,

New York City's very walkable thing.

:

00:59:53,654 --> 00:59:54,644

Katie: You know, they do that.

:

00:59:54,674 --> 00:59:57,704

This, it almost gives me

anxiety in movies like this.

:

00:59:57,854 --> 01:00:02,564

We saw like the fish market, Chinatown,

twin Towers, the Statue of Liberty.

:

01:00:03,164 --> 01:00:07,664

And I already was getting anxiety

'cause I'm like, this is not an adult,

:

01:00:07,694 --> 01:00:09,764

this is a child trying to do this

:

01:00:09,824 --> 01:00:13,004

Same thing with Ferris Bueller, with

Chicago, but they did it better.

:

01:00:13,124 --> 01:00:17,324

Like they really showcased Chicago and

Ferris Bueller and I, I love Chicago,

:

01:00:17,714 --> 01:00:21,464

but I get anxiety when they do the

this in movies where there's a montage

:

01:00:21,464 --> 01:00:24,374

of the tourist sites, and it's like,

you see the whole city in one day.

:

01:00:24,374 --> 01:00:25,844

I am like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

:

01:00:25,894 --> 01:00:26,184

Andy: Yeah.

:

01:00:26,399 --> 01:00:28,064

Katie: no, I don't know why.

:

01:00:28,064 --> 01:00:30,704

It gives me like an anxious

feeling like that's not possible.

:

01:00:30,734 --> 01:00:31,124

How are you?

:

01:00:31,184 --> 01:00:32,564

How are, no.

:

01:00:33,044 --> 01:00:33,494

Andy: Yeah.

:

01:00:33,524 --> 01:00:37,364

And the fact that it, it would've

been better if it was just kept to,

:

01:00:37,454 --> 01:00:39,164

you know, the Central Park area.

:

01:00:39,194 --> 01:00:40,334

And that's overwhelming

:

01:00:40,539 --> 01:00:40,959

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:00:41,114 --> 01:00:47,564

Andy: the fact that Kevin is never reduced

to tears by the overwhelming, terrifying,

:

01:00:50,264 --> 01:00:58,484

realization of being in this metropolis

that's full of lunatics when the, he

:

01:00:58,484 --> 01:01:00,644

gets in the cab and the guy has the,

:

01:01:00,929 --> 01:01:01,149

Katie: Oh.

:

01:01:01,274 --> 01:01:06,524

Andy: pale eye and it's, he's, so many

reasons 'cause when I, I mentioned

:

01:01:06,794 --> 01:01:11,234

that I was a truck driver and I

think it was the first week that I

:

01:01:11,234 --> 01:01:14,204

was solo after training to drive.

:

01:01:14,204 --> 01:01:18,404

I had to drive to Maine and then I

had to go from Maine to Tennessee.

:

01:01:18,704 --> 01:01:18,914

And I

:

01:01:19,129 --> 01:01:19,249

Katie: Hmm.

:

01:01:19,634 --> 01:01:26,984

Andy: via New York City And I

got lost in a class, a full-size

:

01:01:26,984 --> 01:01:28,904

tractor trailer down in.

:

01:01:29,309 --> 01:01:30,119

Central Park

:

01:01:30,129 --> 01:01:30,549

Katie: Oh wow.

:

01:01:30,929 --> 01:01:32,939

Andy: was almost on the verge of tears.

:

01:01:32,979 --> 01:01:33,269

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:40,079

Andy: So for, for Kevin to not lose

his shit is a missed opportunity.

:

01:01:40,289 --> 01:01:43,259

I think it would make the character

a little more three-dimensional

:

01:01:43,259 --> 01:01:47,819

than this kind of Mary Sue kid

that you never think for one second

:

01:01:48,089 --> 01:01:50,009

that he's not gonna be just fine.

:

01:01:50,474 --> 01:01:50,834

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:01:51,449 --> 01:01:54,209

Andy: maybe make the character

a little more relatable.

:

01:01:54,239 --> 01:01:59,879

But, yeah, the fact that he is in

New York, it, it's, it's a good

:

01:02:00,839 --> 01:02:07,499

backdrop to do a part two of this

type of film that it's good for that.

:

01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:15,479

But I think it's underutilized in the, the

pantheon of films that feature New York.

:

01:02:15,749 --> 01:02:17,669

It's been featured a lot better in other

:

01:02:17,999 --> 01:02:18,629

Katie: Agreed.

:

01:02:18,629 --> 01:02:20,129

That's a really good way of putting it.

:

01:02:20,579 --> 01:02:26,369

My anxiety went way down when he was

then offered the opportunity to, he gets

:

01:02:26,369 --> 01:02:30,149

a limo with a cheese pizza to himself.

:

01:02:30,209 --> 01:02:34,288

He's drinking soda out of champagne

flutes and watching the Grinch, and so

:

01:02:34,288 --> 01:02:39,119

he just gets toted around New York and

like at the plaza's expense now that

:

01:02:39,214 --> 01:02:39,334

Andy: Hmm.

:

01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,479

Katie: I was like, now that

sounds like a perfect day.

:

01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:46,049

I would love nothing more, except for if

that was real champagne and not diet Coke.

:

01:02:46,649 --> 01:02:49,139

Andy: that, that's, that's a great point.

:

01:02:49,139 --> 01:02:51,884

And that's when they

should have showcased New

:

01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:52,469

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:02:52,529 --> 01:02:54,209

Andy: that they did at the

top, where he is just kind of

:

01:02:54,209 --> 01:02:55,589

like strolling around and he

:

01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:57,809

Katie: He arrives in New York

and then all of a sudden he's

:

01:02:57,899 --> 01:02:59,099

here, there and everywhere.

:

01:02:59,159 --> 01:02:59,549

Yeah.

:

01:02:59,609 --> 01:02:59,909

Andy: Yeah.

:

01:02:59,909 --> 01:03:02,939

If he was in the limo, then you could

be like, okay, now we're all over

:

01:03:03,179 --> 01:03:03,299

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:05,009

Andy: And that would

make a lot more sense.

:

01:03:05,009 --> 01:03:08,219

And it's earned because of the,

the scene where he fakes it.

:

01:03:08,219 --> 01:03:10,529

And, and that was another

thing I'd put in my notes about

:

01:03:11,009 --> 01:03:15,179

Kevin has preconceived that.

:

01:03:15,524 --> 01:03:20,084

Somebody will eventually come

into this room uninvited.

:

01:03:20,084 --> 01:03:23,144

So I need to make a marionette

:

01:03:23,614 --> 01:03:24,034

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:24,044 --> 01:03:29,084

Andy: shower and thank God I have my

talk boy, which talk boy was basically

:

01:03:29,084 --> 01:03:30,884

the, the hoverboard of this movie.

:

01:03:31,064 --> 01:03:31,484

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:31,584 --> 01:03:32,004

Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:32,184 --> 01:03:32,604

Mm-hmm.

:

01:03:32,744 --> 01:03:33,074

Andy: this.

:

01:03:33,404 --> 01:03:41,544

And he has constructed this fake Uncle

Frank to scare Tim Curry out of the room.

:

01:03:41,814 --> 01:03:45,084

And that justifies them giving

him all these perks that

:

01:03:45,084 --> 01:03:46,134

we were just talking about.

:

01:03:46,134 --> 01:03:50,094

But the, was another thing where I was

just like, this doesn't make sense that

:

01:03:50,094 --> 01:03:56,754

he would, would get this bozo inflatable

thing and then make, the pencils so that

:

01:03:56,754 --> 01:03:59,304

he could control it like the first one.

:

01:03:59,724 --> 01:04:00,804

Why would he do that?

:

01:04:00,834 --> 01:04:03,144

You know, you just put do

not disturb on the door.

:

01:04:03,834 --> 01:04:05,004

Nobody's gonna come in.

:

01:04:05,124 --> 01:04:05,694

So.

:

01:04:05,864 --> 01:04:06,154

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:04:06,219 --> 01:04:10,299

Andy: It was just a strange thing

to, 'cause they wanna make a funny

:

01:04:10,644 --> 01:04:11,064

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:04:11,149 --> 01:04:11,889

Mm-hmm.

:

01:04:12,249 --> 01:04:16,059

Andy: But when you really think

about it, it didn't make sense.

:

01:04:16,194 --> 01:04:18,624

Katie: And then that's how he used

the gi 'cause it was the gift from

:

01:04:18,624 --> 01:04:22,344

his grandma, like a Oh, she thought

you'd be able to use this in the pool.

:

01:04:22,524 --> 01:04:24,234

'cause the family's

supposed to be in Florida.

:

01:04:24,684 --> 01:04:28,614

Speaking of which, why is this

family traveling over Christmas

:

01:04:28,794 --> 01:04:30,894

again after what happened last year?

:

01:04:31,074 --> 01:04:32,544

No, stay home.

:

01:04:32,874 --> 01:04:33,894

You have a gorgeous house.

:

01:04:33,894 --> 01:04:34,854

Just stay there.

:

01:04:35,709 --> 01:04:38,319

Andy: The, they're so sick

of their awesome mansion.

:

01:04:38,379 --> 01:04:38,739

Yeah.

:

01:04:39,413 --> 01:04:43,284

Katie: And then when they do go

to Florida, the cuts to the family

:

01:04:43,284 --> 01:04:46,284

in Florida, I don't know if they

aren't at at the place they're

:

01:04:46,284 --> 01:04:48,264

supposed to be, but it seemed shitty.

:

01:04:48,474 --> 01:04:50,304

Like just like a crappy motel.

:

01:04:50,304 --> 01:04:51,324

Which makes no sense.

:

01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:56,904

'cause this family would've clearly

had a nice accommodations lined up.

:

01:04:56,904 --> 01:04:59,304

So is it, what's the story behind that?

:

01:04:59,304 --> 01:05:01,884

I mean, I know it's Florida, you know, but

:

01:05:01,934 --> 01:05:06,254

Andy: yeah, I think that whatever

they have to change plans because they

:

01:05:06,254 --> 01:05:09,824

realize Kevin's missing and it's the only

thing that they can find last minute.

:

01:05:09,884 --> 01:05:10,964

It must be the

:

01:05:11,324 --> 01:05:13,199

Katie: But wouldn't they

have had reservations?

:

01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:15,419

Like the plan was to go to Florida

:

01:05:15,644 --> 01:05:17,204

Andy: yeah, why don't they go stay

:

01:05:17,429 --> 01:05:18,604

Katie: wherever they were gonna stay.

:

01:05:19,154 --> 01:05:21,254

Andy: they were supposed to

end up while they sorted out.

:

01:05:21,254 --> 01:05:22,304

That is interesting.

:

01:05:22,484 --> 01:05:25,904

But I did like seeing that shitty

green gremlin in the parking lot

:

01:05:26,024 --> 01:05:27,374

of the motel that they're in.

:

01:05:28,649 --> 01:05:29,939

Katie: And it was a motel.

:

01:05:29,939 --> 01:05:31,169

Yeah, definitely.

:

01:05:31,649 --> 01:05:34,739

I thought it was a cute little

nod having a sequel to the sequel.

:

01:05:34,859 --> 01:05:38,369

A movie within a movie within a

movie of the Angels Without Soul.

:

01:05:38,369 --> 01:05:38,999

What was it?

:

01:05:39,659 --> 01:05:44,788

The Angels With, even Angels with even

Filthier Filthier Souls or something.

:

01:05:44,954 --> 01:05:45,434

Andy: is that what it

:

01:05:45,479 --> 01:05:45,869

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:05:46,109 --> 01:05:47,819

So, and using his talk voice.

:

01:05:47,819 --> 01:05:51,869

So we get a lot of the similar

beats from the first one.

:

01:05:51,869 --> 01:05:53,849

Like we kind of need a little bit of that.

:

01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:57,504

But I, I wanted more

creativity from the pranks.

:

01:05:57,814 --> 01:05:59,584

I think there were some

missed opportunities.

:

01:05:59,584 --> 01:06:03,454

There could have been a lot more that

could have been done because he now has

:

01:06:03,454 --> 01:06:08,344

to foil the hotel people and the robbers.

:

01:06:09,034 --> 01:06:09,814

And

:

01:06:10,204 --> 01:06:12,064

Andy: So much of it happens the same way.

:

01:06:12,064 --> 01:06:12,754

It happens in the

:

01:06:12,844 --> 01:06:13,684

Katie: in the first one.

:

01:06:13,684 --> 01:06:14,194

Yeah.

:

01:06:14,224 --> 01:06:17,913

Andy: he slides, he slides into

the elevator between the women's

:

01:06:17,913 --> 01:06:19,594

legs, the way he slides through the

:

01:06:19,709 --> 01:06:20,129

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:06:20,434 --> 01:06:22,413

Andy: and the on the ice

rink, which makes a lot more

:

01:06:22,509 --> 01:06:22,929

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:06:23,614 --> 01:06:25,564

Andy: sliding on the floor of a hotel.

:

01:06:25,784 --> 01:06:25,864

Yeah.

:

01:06:25,869 --> 01:06:26,169

Yeah.

:

01:06:26,169 --> 01:06:28,959

And a lot of it, even the

pranks or the the booby traps

:

01:06:28,959 --> 01:06:32,679

at the house, a lot are just.

:

01:06:33,579 --> 01:06:34,538

Katie: The same.

:

01:06:34,538 --> 01:06:35,079

Yeah.

:

01:06:35,319 --> 01:06:37,719

Andy: one and not many.

:

01:06:37,869 --> 01:06:43,089

I did like the, the toilet

full of kerosene or what,

:

01:06:43,179 --> 01:06:43,749

Katie: yeah.

:

01:06:43,959 --> 01:06:48,069

Andy: was kind of a different, even

though the walking through and the, in

:

01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:51,038

the first one, it's the blow torch to

the head, and this one, it just kind of

:

01:06:51,099 --> 01:06:54,759

catches his head on fire and then, then

he does the handstand in the toilet,

:

01:06:54,759 --> 01:06:57,219

which is new, like a fresher take,

:

01:06:57,699 --> 01:06:58,569

Katie: That's fair.

:

01:06:59,319 --> 01:07:03,609

Andy: So it, it's good when, it's good

when they made it different and changed

:

01:07:03,684 --> 01:07:04,104

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:08,769

Andy: And it's famili, but so many

people just like comfort food.

:

01:07:08,769 --> 01:07:12,429

It's a comfort food movie where

you're seeing something that you

:

01:07:12,759 --> 01:07:14,529

already know that you're gonna enjoy.

:

01:07:14,529 --> 01:07:20,019

So, that's why they're, they're writing

it in so that you be like, oh yeah, I

:

01:07:20,019 --> 01:07:21,249

liked it when I saw it the first time.

:

01:07:21,249 --> 01:07:21,788

So I like it

:

01:07:21,844 --> 01:07:22,264

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:07:22,269 --> 01:07:22,629

Andy: too,

:

01:07:22,644 --> 01:07:23,064

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:07:23,439 --> 01:07:23,799

Andy: but,

:

01:07:23,919 --> 01:07:24,609

Katie: I can say that.

:

01:07:24,609 --> 01:07:28,449

And I did, and you know, to some degree

like even the cheese pizza to himself.

:

01:07:28,449 --> 01:07:30,519

There were, I liked a

lot of the carryover.

:

01:07:30,939 --> 01:07:34,759

I I guess I wish they would've

just taken some of , the stunts up

:

01:07:34,759 --> 01:07:38,839

a notch or maybe had a couple new

really cool ones and they didn't.

:

01:07:39,469 --> 01:07:40,879

But I was confused.

:

01:07:41,314 --> 01:07:46,984

By, what did the uncle's house

have to do with the toy store?

:

01:07:47,194 --> 01:07:49,714

How was him saving the toy store?

:

01:07:50,404 --> 01:07:55,984

His point was with all these booby traps

and getting the burglars to save the toy

:

01:07:55,984 --> 01:07:58,744

store because at the end of the night, Mr.

:

01:07:59,614 --> 01:08:00,244

Mr.

:

01:08:00,244 --> 01:08:05,224

Toy store owner Duncan is going to donate

all that money to a children's charity.

:

01:08:05,824 --> 01:08:06,244

Andy: Mm-hmm.

:

01:08:06,724 --> 01:08:10,834

Katie: So they're going to the

toy store to rob the toy store.

:

01:08:10,834 --> 01:08:14,964

Is he just trying to run the clock out

by bringing them to the uncle's house?

:

01:08:14,964 --> 01:08:17,453

'cause all of the traps

were at the uncle's house.

:

01:08:17,863 --> 01:08:24,323

Andy: This is a great point that I,

that hasn't occurred to me, so I'm.

:

01:08:25,149 --> 01:08:27,639

You're watching my, the gears

turn in my head right now.

:

01:08:27,939 --> 01:08:34,448

If the third act foiling of Harry

and Marv had actually been in the toy

:

01:08:34,448 --> 01:08:43,448

store and he was using and the things

in this child's Playland, how, what

:

01:08:43,599 --> 01:08:48,999

better sequence would that have been

if he was weaponizing the toy store?

:

01:08:49,314 --> 01:08:49,823

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:08:50,019 --> 01:08:51,129

Andy: would've been such a better

:

01:08:51,144 --> 01:08:52,434

Katie: So much better.

:

01:08:53,349 --> 01:08:57,129

Andy: I mean, it, it probably would've

been a more expensive and harder to shoot,

:

01:08:57,158 --> 01:09:01,269

which is probably why they just said,

oh, my uncle's house is being renovated

:

01:09:01,448 --> 01:09:03,129

because I did think that was a good plot.

:

01:09:03,129 --> 01:09:03,549

Di device

:

01:09:03,809 --> 01:09:04,229

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:09:04,299 --> 01:09:08,469

Andy: he ends up with the whole sequence

where he gets lost in the airport.

:

01:09:08,469 --> 01:09:12,939

The way that they orchestrated that,

like he, it's such a kid thing to.

:

01:09:13,584 --> 01:09:15,354

Be like, oh, my toy's outta batteries.

:

01:09:15,354 --> 01:09:18,054

I wanted, I need to

address this right now.

:

01:09:18,174 --> 01:09:21,714

And that's how he loses his

track of his family and the guy

:

01:09:21,714 --> 01:09:23,033

wearing the same code as his dad.

:

01:09:23,064 --> 01:09:24,894

And he follows that guy.

:

01:09:25,134 --> 01:09:30,334

They mix up the, he crashes into the

flight attendant, the gate attendant.

:

01:09:30,544 --> 01:09:31,774

All the tickets go everywhere.

:

01:09:31,774 --> 01:09:36,363

This is a clever way to facilitate

Kevin getting to New York.

:

01:09:36,814 --> 01:09:46,984

Why is the attention that you put into

justifying not applied to the writing of

:

01:09:47,014 --> 01:09:52,174

the finale and the way that you and I just

created a better ending for this movie,

:

01:09:53,124 --> 01:09:53,413

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:09:53,493 --> 01:09:56,614

Andy: which is speaks to the

shortcomings of the movie

:

01:09:56,684 --> 01:09:57,104

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:09:57,334 --> 01:09:58,864

Andy: arguing that it's

not better than the

:

01:09:59,044 --> 01:10:02,884

Katie: Right, but I mean, what

were we led to believe though?,

:

01:10:02,914 --> 01:10:04,384

What does This house

have to do with anything?

:

01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:07,894

Andy: It's just a venue to do the

same thing from the first one.

:

01:10:08,134 --> 01:10:10,324

Katie: He lures them there instead

:

01:10:10,374 --> 01:10:12,054

Andy: Oh, because,

because that was my point.

:

01:10:12,054 --> 01:10:16,284

Like the other thing that made the movie

make a lot more sense is that he would,

:

01:10:16,344 --> 01:10:21,784

getting the batteries for his toy secures

his dad's travel bag that has money, which

:

01:10:21,784 --> 01:10:24,454

Kevin will need to even get anywhere.

:

01:10:24,464 --> 01:10:27,764

He would just be at the airport

and then the movie would be

:

01:10:27,914 --> 01:10:28,304

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:10:28,309 --> 01:10:28,934

No money.

:

01:10:29,109 --> 01:10:29,329

No.

:

01:10:29,384 --> 01:10:29,774

Andy: why?

:

01:10:30,014 --> 01:10:30,254

Yeah.

:

01:10:30,254 --> 01:10:30,674

Yeah.

:

01:10:30,764 --> 01:10:34,004

So the, and then he has the

address book of where his uncle

:

01:10:34,099 --> 01:10:34,519

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:10:34,574 --> 01:10:37,274

Andy: and, you know, some of

these other tools that allow him

:

01:10:37,274 --> 01:10:38,774

to find his way around New York.

:

01:10:38,774 --> 01:10:44,344

So that, that was a good thing to insert

into the plot or, to facilitate the

:

01:10:44,344 --> 01:10:49,054

movie happening and then just drop the

ball with, and do the same thing all

:

01:10:49,054 --> 01:10:54,574

over again that you did in the first

one, only in a, a house of of coal

:

01:10:54,574 --> 01:10:56,284

that no one's ever heard of before.

:

01:10:56,284 --> 01:10:57,364

It's just kind of lazy.

:

01:10:58,084 --> 01:10:59,209

Katie: I think he's meant to be.

:

01:10:59,239 --> 01:11:00,679

'cause they're like,

oh, isn't he in Paris?

:

01:11:00,709 --> 01:11:00,949

Oh yeah.

:

01:11:00,949 --> 01:11:03,409

But the house is being run by,

he was the uncle that they went

:

01:11:03,409 --> 01:11:05,179

to visit in the first movie.

:

01:11:05,539 --> 01:11:06,679

The fam right.

:

01:11:06,739 --> 01:11:07,099

I'm

:

01:11:07,443 --> 01:11:07,984

Andy: Is that it?

:

01:11:07,984 --> 01:11:08,193

I don't

:

01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:08,509

Katie: him.

:

01:11:08,509 --> 01:11:10,279

The, this family has a lot of money.

:

01:11:10,469 --> 01:11:12,299

Or at least two of the brothers do.

:

01:11:12,659 --> 01:11:16,749

Uncle Frank doesn't, but, but

'cause they were gonna go to Paris

:

01:11:16,749 --> 01:11:19,869

to, to visit, have Christmas with

the, that uncle that apparently

:

01:11:19,869 --> 01:11:21,759

has another home in New York City.

:

01:11:21,939 --> 01:11:23,709

Gee, must be nice to be in McAllister, eh?

:

01:11:25,129 --> 01:11:27,289

Andy: Was one of my

favorite lines in the movie.

:

01:11:27,289 --> 01:11:30,889

That's right at the beginning when

he, when he is, goes to Uncle Frank.

:

01:11:30,919 --> 01:11:32,749

Oh, I wouldn't wanna

ruin your vacation, Mr.

:

01:11:32,749 --> 01:11:33,559

Cheapskate.

:

01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:39,749

And everybody's appalled by Kevin's

smart mouth to his dickhead uncle,

:

01:11:39,989 --> 01:11:41,309

who is a dickhead and deserves

:

01:11:41,534 --> 01:11:42,014

Katie: He is.

:

01:11:42,329 --> 01:11:48,849

So towards the end buzz shows Kevin,

the room service bill, he's like, oh my

:

01:11:48,849 --> 01:11:50,769

God, you're gonna be in so much trouble.

:

01:11:51,099 --> 01:11:56,529

It was $967, which I looked up today.

:

01:11:56,529 --> 01:11:59,049

That would be about:

:

01:11:59,109 --> 01:12:00,999

$2,232.

:

01:12:01,299 --> 01:12:05,679

That's really, I honestly would've

thought it'd be way higher.

:

01:12:06,068 --> 01:12:09,489

Or am I off on this at the plaza?

:

01:12:09,714 --> 01:12:10,524

Andy: I, yeah.

:

01:12:11,334 --> 01:12:13,914

$0 of that was spent on the bird lady.

:

01:12:14,649 --> 01:12:15,879

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:12:15,939 --> 01:12:16,779

Come on Kevin.

:

01:12:18,499 --> 01:12:19,279

Andy: That's crazy.

:

01:12:19,369 --> 01:12:20,809

And, but it's like, yeah.

:

01:12:20,809 --> 01:12:26,449

What else are you gonna do if you're a

kid in a, a hotel room, but order room

:

01:12:26,568 --> 01:12:26,989

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:12:27,049 --> 01:12:27,469

Andy: So,

:

01:12:27,894 --> 01:12:29,419

Katie: I, I guess I just

thought it would be more,

:

01:12:29,689 --> 01:12:30,259

Andy: amount of money.

:

01:12:31,229 --> 01:12:32,969

Katie: I did watch all the way through.

:

01:12:32,999 --> 01:12:36,869

'cause sometimes the, so John

Hughes will many times have a

:

01:12:36,869 --> 01:12:38,369

post credit scene in his movies.

:

01:12:38,369 --> 01:12:39,029

There was not.

:

01:12:39,179 --> 01:12:39,568

Andy: Bueller?

:

01:12:39,929 --> 01:12:40,289

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:12:40,349 --> 01:12:43,489

But there was not there are

a few bits of trivia here.

:

01:12:44,299 --> 01:12:47,899

The original working title

apparently was alone Again.

:

01:12:49,129 --> 01:12:50,299

What are your thoughts about that?

:

01:12:51,619 --> 01:12:52,039

Andy: Hmm.

:

01:12:52,399 --> 01:12:52,969

Not good.

:

01:12:53,059 --> 01:12:53,359

Katie: Okay.

:

01:12:53,749 --> 01:12:54,379

Andy: Home alone two.

:

01:12:54,379 --> 01:12:54,904

Lost to New

:

01:12:55,039 --> 01:12:55,489

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:12:55,849 --> 01:12:56,689

I'll get either way.

:

01:12:56,689 --> 01:13:01,699

So home alone too Alone again, or it's,

you still need home alone in it somewhere.

:

01:13:01,969 --> 01:13:02,299

Yeah.

:

01:13:02,809 --> 01:13:06,889

The phone number that was given for the

Plaza Hotel in the movie is an actual

:

01:13:06,889 --> 01:13:08,599

working number for the Plaza Hotel.

:

01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:10,009

Like whatever it was.

:

01:13:10,759 --> 01:13:11,029

Andy: That's good.

:

01:13:11,029 --> 01:13:12,229

Marketing for the plaza.

:

01:13:12,349 --> 01:13:12,829

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:13:13,079 --> 01:13:14,969

I wonder if it still is that same number.

:

01:13:15,309 --> 01:13:16,989

There's a swimming pool scene.

:

01:13:17,559 --> 01:13:21,009

So Kevin does all the things kids

love to do at a hotel and want,

:

01:13:21,009 --> 01:13:22,479

including going to the pool.

:

01:13:22,959 --> 01:13:29,089

But I guess the Plaza doesn't have

a swimming pool located on site.

:

01:13:29,139 --> 01:13:33,129

So that was shot at the Four

Seasons in Chicago, the pool scene

:

01:13:33,339 --> 01:13:33,669

Andy: funny.

:

01:13:33,879 --> 01:13:34,689

That's interesting.

:

01:13:34,693 --> 01:13:34,984

Yeah.

:

01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:36,939

Katie: and more about the plaza.

:

01:13:36,939 --> 01:13:44,439

It still to this day, apparently offers

the home alone experience around Christmas

:

01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,599

where guests can pay to stay in a room.

:

01:13:46,599 --> 01:13:49,389

Very similar to the room

in which Kevin stayed.

:

01:13:49,389 --> 01:13:53,169

Receive home alone gifts, including

the movies, take a limousine and

:

01:13:53,169 --> 01:13:57,068

see some of the filming locations,

including the toy store upon which

:

01:13:57,068 --> 01:13:58,959

Duncan's Toy Chest was based.

:

01:13:59,529 --> 01:14:00,009

Yeah.

:

01:14:00,849 --> 01:14:02,019

Andy: Is that still exist?

:

01:14:02,259 --> 01:14:04,029

That I thought FAO Schwartz was gone?

:

01:14:04,029 --> 01:14:06,909

Unless there's a different incarnation of

:

01:14:06,954 --> 01:14:07,254

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:14:07,254 --> 01:14:08,514

I mean, okay.

:

01:14:08,934 --> 01:14:12,414

I don't know when that

tidbit was published, so

:

01:14:12,639 --> 01:14:13,209

Andy: Oh, okay.

:

01:14:13,284 --> 01:14:13,644

Katie: for who know?

:

01:14:13,824 --> 01:14:14,214

Yeah.

:

01:14:14,509 --> 01:14:15,769

Andy: Experience that they offered

:

01:14:15,814 --> 01:14:16,204

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:14:16,954 --> 01:14:20,234

Or maybe that's just not part

of it, but because it was,

:

01:14:20,339 --> 01:14:20,729

Andy: go.

:

01:14:20,984 --> 01:14:21,314

Katie: yeah.

:

01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:23,099

Andy: ever had the chance to go to FAO

:

01:14:23,354 --> 01:14:24,164

Katie: No,

:

01:14:24,179 --> 01:14:24,509

Andy: a thing?

:

01:14:24,524 --> 01:14:25,064

Katie: no.

:

01:14:25,124 --> 01:14:25,784

Did you?

:

01:14:25,829 --> 01:14:26,969

Andy: was, yeah.

:

01:14:27,059 --> 01:14:28,289

And it's something else

:

01:14:28,334 --> 01:14:28,693

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:14:28,769 --> 01:14:32,189

Andy: mean, they that watch big

and you, and you get a really good

:

01:14:32,189 --> 01:14:35,679

idea of what it is, now that we've

discussed this, it's such a missed

:

01:14:35,679 --> 01:14:37,568

opportunity that they didn't do.

:

01:14:37,644 --> 01:14:38,604

Katie: The toy store.

:

01:14:38,829 --> 01:14:40,754

Andy: the toy store foiling

:

01:14:40,994 --> 01:14:41,204

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:41,534 --> 01:14:41,834

Andy: Harry.

:

01:14:41,834 --> 01:14:43,334

I, why wouldn't you do that?

:

01:14:43,424 --> 01:14:43,634

Why?

:

01:14:43,634 --> 01:14:44,684

What are you thinking?

:

01:14:44,774 --> 01:14:46,859

'cause Columbus and John Hughes.

:

01:14:46,874 --> 01:14:47,114

Katie: yeah.

:

01:14:47,114 --> 01:14:49,604

You, you wrote it, John, come on.

:

01:14:49,904 --> 01:14:52,664

Ah, yeah, I get frustrated.

:

01:14:52,693 --> 01:14:55,774

During this season, I'm probably

more often than not, a little

:

01:14:55,774 --> 01:14:57,154

frustrated with John Hughes.

:

01:14:57,464 --> 01:14:58,844

He really hits when he hits.

:

01:14:59,304 --> 01:15:03,264

And I think this is a hit, like this

is a, I I'm not, I I just have fun.

:

01:15:03,264 --> 01:15:07,264

Sometimes when podcasting about

a movie, I have fun poking

:

01:15:07,294 --> 01:15:08,734

holes in it, where they are.

:

01:15:08,734 --> 01:15:10,834

So I don't want people

to get upset with me.

:

01:15:10,834 --> 01:15:12,544

I do like this movie, everyone.

:

01:15:14,044 --> 01:15:15,484

Andy: but it did, it did drop the ball

:

01:15:15,709 --> 01:15:16,129

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:15:16,193 --> 01:15:16,494

Andy: Oh.

:

01:15:16,494 --> 01:15:17,904

Have you ever heard of that movie?

:

01:15:18,384 --> 01:15:22,224

It's a Dwayne, the Rock Johnson

movie called Skyscraper.

:

01:15:22,249 --> 01:15:22,669

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:15:23,424 --> 01:15:27,534

Andy: kind of came out after Jumanji and.

:

01:15:28,374 --> 01:15:28,524

Katie: Oh,

:

01:15:28,689 --> 01:15:33,099

Andy: Andreas and he, it, what's

interesting about it is he plays

:

01:15:33,399 --> 01:15:35,619

a vet that ha is missing a leg.

:

01:15:36,009 --> 01:15:43,599

So his family is trapped at the top of

this smart building skyscraper that is,

:

01:15:43,599 --> 01:15:46,179

has a diehard scenario happening in it.

:

01:15:46,629 --> 01:15:48,969

And the movie is called Skyscraper.

:

01:15:49,029 --> 01:15:55,359

The finale takes place at the top of

the building and the whole time you

:

01:15:55,359 --> 01:16:02,379

are expecting somebody, a villain or

a maybe a, loved one to get thrown

:

01:16:02,379 --> 01:16:07,059

off the building and Dwayne Johnson is

going to jump off the skyscraper and

:

01:16:07,059 --> 01:16:12,429

rescue somebody that's falling from

what's being held up in the movie as

:

01:16:12,429 --> 01:16:14,199

the biggest building in the world.

:

01:16:14,859 --> 01:16:19,389

then you get to the end and it's not, it's

like a hall of mirrors finale and nobody

:

01:16:19,389 --> 01:16:21,279

falls off the top of the building and.

:

01:16:22,909 --> 01:16:23,199

Katie: What?

:

01:16:23,559 --> 01:16:25,539

Andy: feel like you

watched this for nothing?

:

01:16:25,568 --> 01:16:26,724

Katie: Oh, what a let down.

:

01:16:26,724 --> 01:16:27,684

What a let down.

:

01:16:28,299 --> 01:16:33,049

Andy: this Toy Store finale of

Home Alone two now is replacing

:

01:16:33,409 --> 01:16:34,519

Katie: Huge missed opportunity.

:

01:16:34,519 --> 01:16:36,289

Andy: opportunity since skyscraper

:

01:16:36,409 --> 01:16:36,889

Katie: Okay.

:

01:16:37,609 --> 01:16:38,059

Yeah.

:

01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:39,089

For real though,

:

01:16:39,568 --> 01:16:40,049

Andy: Hmm,

:

01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:44,369

Katie: I guess, writer and producer

John Hughes, like during production

:

01:16:44,369 --> 01:16:49,739

of this, he was already writing script

drafts for the third movie in which he

:

01:16:49,739 --> 01:16:52,649

wanted Macaulay to return as a teenager.

:

01:16:53,499 --> 01:16:57,969

But I guess when he found out that

Macaulay Culkin quit acting in 94, he

:

01:16:57,969 --> 01:16:59,974

had to rewrite the story with a new kid.

:

01:17:00,424 --> 01:17:00,754

Yeah.

:

01:17:01,474 --> 01:17:02,734

Andy: for, for the worst.

:

01:17:03,274 --> 01:17:03,874

Katie: Yeah, yeah.

:

01:17:04,594 --> 01:17:06,424

Andy: that was probably for the best too.

:

01:17:06,544 --> 01:17:06,604

You

:

01:17:06,604 --> 01:17:07,294

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:17:07,309 --> 01:17:07,529

Yep.

:

01:17:08,134 --> 01:17:11,584

Andy: the colleague GaN on

to be a, a big meth head or

:

01:17:11,794 --> 01:17:12,424

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:14,314

Andy: except for 20 years.

:

01:17:14,404 --> 01:17:15,273

Katie: I don't know man.

:

01:17:16,489 --> 01:17:21,289

Tim Curry, Macaulay Coken, and Joe

Pesci all in this movie reportedly

:

01:17:21,289 --> 01:17:25,999

turned down roles in the Lion

King to do this film instead.

:

01:17:27,769 --> 01:17:31,398

Which is weird because the Lion

King didn't come out until 94,

:

01:17:32,734 --> 01:17:33,273

Andy: Yeah.

:

01:17:33,859 --> 01:17:34,759

Katie: but I don't know if it just,

:

01:17:35,164 --> 01:17:35,494

Andy: work

:

01:17:35,599 --> 01:17:36,409

Katie: I assume so.

:

01:17:36,529 --> 01:17:37,489

Yeah, I assume so.

:

01:17:38,179 --> 01:17:38,539

Yeah.

:

01:17:38,584 --> 01:17:41,824

Andy: don't know, I wasn't

that like Matthew Broderick

:

01:17:42,199 --> 01:17:42,799

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:17:43,009 --> 01:17:44,119

I don't know who they would've been.

:

01:17:44,254 --> 01:17:46,023

Andy: Tim Curry as a scar

:

01:17:46,249 --> 01:17:47,689

Katie: Maybe, maybe

:

01:17:47,764 --> 01:17:48,394

Andy: what that was gonna

:

01:17:48,559 --> 01:17:49,159

Katie: Hashi.

:

01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:52,519

I could have been one of the hyenas

or something like, like I can see,

:

01:17:53,254 --> 01:17:53,884

Andy: Yeah.

:

01:17:53,884 --> 01:17:55,079

Or timone.

:

01:17:55,489 --> 01:17:56,509

Katie: Yeah, yeah.

:

01:17:56,568 --> 01:17:57,318

Yeah.

:

01:17:57,544 --> 01:17:59,704

Andy: way too much about

the Lion King, apparently.

:

01:17:59,809 --> 01:18:00,379

Katie: really good.

:

01:18:00,529 --> 01:18:03,229

And then you know who was

missing in this movie?

:

01:18:03,709 --> 01:18:09,079

We had a cameo in the first movie by

a very famous comedian, also frequent

:

01:18:09,079 --> 01:18:10,484

collaborator with John Hughes.

:

01:18:10,684 --> 01:18:10,864

Andy: John

:

01:18:11,193 --> 01:18:11,484

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:18:11,494 --> 01:18:12,124

Andy: John Candy.

:

01:18:12,454 --> 01:18:15,184

Katie: John Candy was not in this

:

01:18:16,114 --> 01:18:16,504

Andy: Yeah.

:

01:18:16,654 --> 01:18:17,104

Why?

:

01:18:17,674 --> 01:18:18,724

Katie: well, the original.

:

01:18:18,874 --> 01:18:19,324

Andy: sense.

:

01:18:19,474 --> 01:18:21,184

Katie: I'm glad that you asked Andy.

:

01:18:22,504 --> 01:18:24,214

Andy: But see, did, did

he die at this point?

:

01:18:24,244 --> 01:18:25,534

Katie: No, not, oh,

:

01:18:25,684 --> 01:18:26,074

Andy: yet.

:

01:18:26,134 --> 01:18:26,164

Mm

:

01:18:26,284 --> 01:18:26,523

Katie: yet.

:

01:18:26,554 --> 01:18:30,634

The original plan was for John Candy

to make a cameo, but I guess he

:

01:18:30,634 --> 01:18:35,104

was bitter about how little money

he received from the first film.

:

01:18:35,849 --> 01:18:35,969

Andy: hmm.

:

01:18:36,044 --> 01:18:37,424

Katie: And so he refused to do it.

:

01:18:38,204 --> 01:18:38,714

Andy: You get what?

:

01:18:38,714 --> 01:18:39,734

Get what you're worth.

:

01:18:39,734 --> 01:18:41,264

Get John Candy's worth a lot.

:

01:18:41,474 --> 01:18:41,744

Throw him,

:

01:18:42,374 --> 01:18:43,214

Katie: he is

:

01:18:43,484 --> 01:18:45,584

Andy: after the, he did you

a favor with the first one?

:

01:18:45,974 --> 01:18:46,484

Katie: agreed.

:

01:18:46,693 --> 01:18:49,424

Andy: I would, it would've been

awesome if it was the same character.

:

01:18:49,424 --> 01:18:50,204

The Polka

:

01:18:50,654 --> 01:18:51,943

Katie: Came into play somehow.

:

01:18:52,004 --> 01:18:52,424

Yeah.

:

01:18:52,484 --> 01:18:53,264

Andy: helps out

:

01:18:53,294 --> 01:18:53,654

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:18:53,804 --> 01:18:54,734

Andy: That would've been great

:

01:18:54,854 --> 01:18:55,514

Katie: Agreed.

:

01:18:56,049 --> 01:19:01,304

Andy: you know, you don't cut the

money to John Candy on set for one day.

:

01:19:02,924 --> 01:19:05,523

Katie: Yeah, but I guess he was just

bitter because they could have given

:

01:19:05,523 --> 01:19:09,693

him more like posts like after the

fact because Home Alone was such

:

01:19:09,693 --> 01:19:12,754

a hit and he, however much he got

paid must not have been very much.

:

01:19:13,279 --> 01:19:13,729

Andy: backend

:

01:19:13,954 --> 01:19:15,004

Katie: Yeah, yeah.

:

01:19:15,004 --> 01:19:15,574

Mm-hmm.

:

01:19:15,589 --> 01:19:16,729

Andy: agent, John Candy.

:

01:19:16,864 --> 01:19:17,554

Katie: I know.

:

01:19:17,794 --> 01:19:20,824

Which is unusual because you

usually don't hear about him

:

01:19:20,884 --> 01:19:22,924

kinda holding grudges or anything.

:

01:19:23,014 --> 01:19:24,484

It's usually the other way around.

:

01:19:24,484 --> 01:19:26,494

John Hughes is usually the one anyway.

:

01:19:27,004 --> 01:19:27,604

Andy

:

01:19:27,769 --> 01:19:29,648

Andy: that new doc about him.

:

01:19:29,739 --> 01:19:30,459

That's out now.

:

01:19:30,669 --> 01:19:31,719

There's a New John Candy

:

01:19:32,004 --> 01:19:33,744

Katie: there on what?

:

01:19:33,773 --> 01:19:34,254

What's it on?

:

01:19:34,419 --> 01:19:35,379

Andy: Hmm.

:

01:19:35,709 --> 01:19:38,959

It might be Prime or Netflix.

:

01:19:38,989 --> 01:19:39,619

One of the big ones,

:

01:19:39,629 --> 01:19:39,919

Katie: Okay.

:

01:19:39,994 --> 01:19:40,804

I'm gonna have to check it out.

:

01:19:40,854 --> 01:19:42,534

I do really like John Candy.

:

01:19:42,564 --> 01:19:44,544

Who doesn't, I mean, he's, yeah.

:

01:19:45,214 --> 01:19:48,184

I mean, we could have talked

for another hour about.

:

01:19:49,609 --> 01:19:49,999

Home alone.

:

01:19:49,999 --> 01:19:53,398

Two, you know, comparing it

to the first one, all of it.

:

01:19:53,398 --> 01:19:56,099

We could have talked forever, but we

have to conclude at some point, what

:

01:19:56,099 --> 01:20:00,659

are your closing thoughts about Home

Alone Two, and then please remind

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01:20:00,659 --> 01:20:02,849

us where we can find more of you.

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Andy: Yes, I would love to,

thoughts about Home Alone.

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Two, it's a, it's a fun movie.

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It's, I was glad to have a reason to

rewatch it, and we are approaching

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the holiday season, so, oftentimes

I will myself watching the original

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and not so much the second one.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Andy: I, I was glad to revisit it.

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It reminded me of what my

talent Joe Peci is and how much

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I love Tim Curry and O'Hara.

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The, all these characters were fun

to spend another two hours with, and

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even though I don't think it's as good

as the first one that doesn't really,

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Ruin the viewing experience

of the second one.

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And like I said, there's a lot

of creative ways that they the

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formula that makes it fun watch.

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So I would, or anybody that wants

to dig into a holiday movie at

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the holiday season, this is a very

good one to add to the watch list.

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So, please do.

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And then also please go to

all apologies podcast.com.

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Actually, I'm begging everybody to

subscribe to our YouTube channel.

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So, you can find all apologies podcast

on YouTube and hit that subscribe button.

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And keep up up with everything that

we're releasing there, including the

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Edgar Wright series, all the Right

moves that Ryan Alkin is also hosting

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on the Director's Chair podcast network.

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So check that out as well.

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Katie: Great

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Andy: for

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Katie: stuff.

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Yes.

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Oh my gosh.

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Thank you so much for joining

me to talk about this sequel.

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And some 92 memories.

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So it's always fun to

kind of go back in time.

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But that is a wrap on Home Alone.

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Two, you guys lost in New York.

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Proof that light lightning can

almost strike twice, especially

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when you've got Tim Curry, pigeons

and a credit card with no limit.

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If you enjoyed this trip back

to:

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and review retro Made seriously.

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Seriously, it does make a huge

difference and helping other

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nostalgia nerds like us find the show.

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01:22:17,384 --> 01:22:18,854

Or you can always drop me a line.

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You can email me, tell me what you

think about Home Alone Two versus

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Home Alone, the original bonus points.

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If it involves a talk boy.

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But until next time, be kind, rewind.

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Retromade
Your pop culture rewind
Welcome to the Retromade Podcast, where we take a nostalgic trip down memory lane and explore the best of the 80s and 90s pop culture.

Join us as we dive into the iconic movies, TV shows, music, fashion, cartoons, toys, and other cultural trends that defined these two decades. From the classic coming-of-age films of John Hughes to the unforgettable TV shows like The Cosby Show, Cheers, The Golden Girls, Friends, and Seinfeld; we’ll explore the moments that shaped our childhoods and continue to resonate with us today.

Get ready to reminisce about the music that dominated the charts, from the hair metal of Guns N’ Roses to the pop hits of Madonna and Michael Jackson. We’ll also take a look at the fads and trends that defined the era, from the neon colors of fashion to the boombox on every street corner.

But it’s not just about the big names and big moments. We’ll also dive deep into the lesser-known corners of 80s and 90s culture, from cult classic movies like The Breakfast Club and Big Trouble in Little China to underground bands that never quite made it big. And of course, we can’t forget the deliciously retro snacks & cereals that were a staple of our childhoods.

Join us as we explore the pop culture of the past, and discover how it still shapes our lives today. Whether you’re a child of the 80s, 90s, or just a fan of retro culture, this podcast is for you. So grab a slice of pizza, put on your favorite band t-shirt, and tune in to the Retromade Podcast.
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