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25th Jul 2024

Executive Decision | S1E34

We continue the exploration of the best of the 80s & 90s… with the tense action-thriller, Executive Decision with our everyman, Kurt Russell from March of 1996!

I’m excited to have Zabe (host) & Robin (producer) from Who Will Save Generation X? Trivia Game Show on with me today. Their show is dedicated to remembering, celebrating and preserving all the wonderful qualities of Generation X (ex: pop culture of the 70s, 80s, and 90s) through games, trivia, and friends. Here's where you can find them:

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Transcript
Katie:

Hello.

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Hello.

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I'm Katie and welcome to

retro made your pop culture.

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Rewind.

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Let's continue the exploration of

the best of the eighties and nineties

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with a very tense action thriller.

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Executive decision our

everyman Kurt Russell.

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And today I'm very excited

to have new guests.

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Join me, Zabe and Robin from Who

Will Save Generation X Trivia

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Game Show on with me today.

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Thank you guys so much for joining.

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Tell us and the listeners

about you and your show.

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Zabe: Well, hi, I'm Zabe.

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I'm the host of the show.

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It is a very lighthearted look back

into the fun things of generation X.

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We play lots of games with our, our

guests that come on at its heart.

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It is very much a game show and

we try and keep that vibe going.

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And we have all kinds of different

games for people to try out.

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We try and get things fresh and new all

the time and to keep things interesting.

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But it's basically.

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We celebrate the cool things of

our youth, us Gen Xers, that is,

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but it's not exclusive to Gen X

as Robin is a millennial and she

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is the producer of this show.

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So we try and make it

appealing for everybody.

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But if you're a Gen X er, then you'll

definitely like the show a lot.

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Katie: It's super fun.

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Robin: For sure I can agree with that,

Zabe, because like you say, I'm a

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millennial, and honestly, if you're

someone that just enjoys trivia, it hits

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the spot, especially because Generation X

really was this time in music and movies

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and tv like it just so much especially

in america and so yeah if you even like

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trivia it's just such a fun listen and

i'm really happy to be a part of it

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Zabe: Well, it's a highly

produced show as well.

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So there's a lot of things.

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We put a lot of sound clips in

and a lot of things that will.

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Scratch your nostalgic itch if that's

the right phrase to even be using.

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I don't even know but it It it definitely

will bring back the good nostalgic vibes

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that and that's what we're shooting for

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Katie: Well, that's why you're

perfect guests for RetroMade because

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that's what I like to do too.

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80s and 90s were the best man.

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So,

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Robin: oh yeah

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Katie: well, before we get into the

show, I have a couple of listener

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comments that I wanted to share.

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If you guys listeners, if you're

listening on Spotify, Did you know you

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can actually leave comments and I can

see them and I can read them on the show?

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Well, you can and you should

just like Patrick did.

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He left two comments.

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One for the three wishes and the

Roseanne episode, which was episode 31.

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He says, Katie, I love this episode.

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Thank you for all that you do.

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Love the trips down memory lane

and also an introduction to

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a movie that has been missed.

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You rock.

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Keep up the great content.

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I loved hearing that.

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So thanks, Patrick.

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And then I love, love, love, love

your next comment because I did a

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bonus episode on the Roadhouse remake.

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I don't know if you guys

have seen it or not.

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Zabe: i refuse

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Robin: yeah

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Katie: yeah

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well, so if you listen to my

episode and my listeners are

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probably very divided on this.

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did not care for it.

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And my guests and I had fun kind of

picking it apart a little bit despite our

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real, I do very much like Jake Gyllenhaal.

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It's not his fault, but Patrick

commented on that episode and he

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says, I barely got through this movie.

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I think it would have been fine

if it was not named Roadhouse.

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And I wholeheartedly agree.

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I still wouldn't have liked it very

much, but I think it added a little

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extra insult to the injury for me that

they marketed it as a roadhouse movie.

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Zabe: well when they take the name of

movies and they they repackage them and

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Try to trot them out and try and get

some sort of equal success into the pop

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culture of today that they had back in

the day, it just seems so transparent

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and feels like this is money grabs

and they're pulling on the nostalgic

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strings I feel for the wrong reasons.

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And you know, go ahead, make your tough

guy bar movie and just call something

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else and bring your own flavor to it

because you're going to do it anyway.

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Katie: exactly.

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Well, other people

probably disagreed with me.

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Who, who am I?

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Who do I know?

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But it's strange.

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The types of movies that get that are

making money and being made nowadays.

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And so it doesn't really surprise me, but

they're already making a sequel to it.

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Zabe: Really?

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Katie: Yeah.

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Robin: wow

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Katie: Well, anyway, before you get me

going on a whole rant about the Roadhouse

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remake again, I just wanted to bring that

up and make sure that everyone is aware

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that if you listen on Spotify, you can

do that and you should just like Patrick.

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Thank you, Patrick.

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All right.

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Now let's open the time

capsule from March.

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1996, mid nineties is kind of my jam,

you know, that's when I was like, I

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think I started high school in 96.

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So, you know, which of the popular

TV at the time really kind of

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stuck out for whatever reason.

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Robin: For me it would be fraser for

sure and some of that is because my

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parents were massive massive cheers

fans back in the day and so I've

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definitely seen all of Cheers as well,

but, Frasier was one that I remember

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them watching when I was growing up.

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And it's one that when I was a

teen, I ended up latching onto for

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reruns and, you know, then DVR came,

had come around and everything.

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So, you know, we could record

that stuff, but love Frasier.

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So funny.

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I still love Kelsey Grammar

to this day because of it.

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And it's, you know, also why I

was willing to go back and try

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Cheers, which is also delightful.

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Katie: Did you watch the newly,

what is, what do they consider it?

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A reboot

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It?

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Robin: yeah, because

isn't it a continuation?

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You know, it looks like,

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Katie: see it

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Robin: it looks like

something I should enjoy.

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Like I think even some of the new

additions are people that I like,

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but I can't it's very good compared

to the show, you know, the original.

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And so I really haven't tried it.

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You know, I guess, I guess

get that money for for sure.

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Katie: About you Zabe?

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Zabe: Well, I'm definitely the

oldest person here on this episode.

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I was born in 73.

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The And that makes, puts me square Mac

smack dab in the middle of generation X.

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And I was 23 in 1996.

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And although television raised me as

it did many of my gen X cohorts from

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the seventies, all the way through the

eighties and into the early nineties.

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Cause we, we come from the generation

of very neglectful parents.

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I hope my parents don't

ever hear this episode, but

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they,

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the space Yeah, Lasky Kids, you

know, we were, we were the first

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generation for a widespread divorce.

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And as a necessity they had to turn

on the TV and let them babysit us.

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And, and you know.

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I don't look back with anything other

than fond memories of my television

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godparents watching over me.

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But by the time 1996 rolls around, I'm,

I'm an adult, you know, I've entered

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the workforce and I'm working 60 to 80

hours a week by that point in my life.

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And, oh yeah, I was a total workaholic

at a, from a very early age and I,

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you know, priorities had to be set.

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And television was something that

really flew out the window for me.

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So you sent us a whole list of

different things that we could talk

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about and every single thing on

the list here kind of passed me by.

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I've never seen an episode of Frasier.

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I was an adult already by

the time:

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So a lot of these shows

really just passed me by

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almost everything on

your list that you have.

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I didn't, I never watched ER.

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I didn't watch friends really.

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I didn't watch Frasier.

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I've never seen an episode

of Frasier even once.

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So, I love Cheers, but I just

never made the transition over

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to Frasier for whatever reason.

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So television of the mid

nineties kind of passed me by.

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The well goes very deep with 80s TV.

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But that's not the episode I'm on.

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Katie: Did you catch any of them?

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Do you ever like in syndication, do

you catch up with any of the shows

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like after they're run by any chance?

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Zabe: I caught up with Seinfeld for

the most part which I love, but going

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back and watching these shows when

they're not set in the proper time.

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So a lot of the things are more

impactful if you're watching them in the,

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in the time when they're

actually run for the first time.

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So while I still enjoyed the comedy,

I love the show I think it would

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have hit me a whole lot harder had

I watched them on their first run.

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Katie: Yeah, that totally makes sense.

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It's interesting because

I'm like Seinfeld friends.

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I think they were all on the

same night, like Thursday night.

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So that was, those were big friends is

one of my favorite shows of all time.

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So that's a big one for me.

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Well, let's move on to music to see,

I feel bad Zabe because if the TV

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missed you, maybe the music did too.

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I don't know.

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We'll see.

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The billboard top 10 the week that

executive decision came out, which is

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March 15th, 1996, the number one song.

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One Sweet Day by Mariah

Carey and Boyz II Men.

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The next two are actually from

a movie, from Waiting to Exhale.

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Both Brandy's Sittin Up in My

Room, which is so very:

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I love that song, but it's so mid 90s.

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then number three is Mary J.

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Blige's Knock on cry.

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So those are both from waiting to exhale.

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Do we know these songs?

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Robin: I wish I knew these songs better

because every artist you've named,

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I've been like, yeah, it's some of

my favorites from back in the day.

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I'll say, I think I was

probably just on the young side.

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And so I know things probably

from, you know, or six years later.

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Katie: That totally makes sense.

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Robin: Yeah.

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Katie: Oh, I forgot to look up number 4.

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I've heard of the Tony rich project,

but I don't, I'm not really familiar.

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The number 4 song is called nobody knows.

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There's another one from a movie,

Celine Dion's, Because You Loved Me.

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Robin: excellent.

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Yes.

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Katie: didn't realize that

was from, what's the movie?

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Up Close and Personal.

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Robin: Oh,

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Katie: That's the, that's

the movie that it's from.

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Zabe: Well, come 1990, mid 90s,

Celine Dion is about to blow up and

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become the Celine Dion we all know.

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I think prior

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Katie: with

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Titanic,

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Zabe: Yeah,

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Robin: Oh, Yeah,

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Zabe: so all those songs that you just

mentioned, once again, pass me by, it's

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not because I wasn't paying attention to

music in the 90s, because I totally was.

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I, still to this day, I'm still

kind of stuck in my bubble of the

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kind of music that I listen to.

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I mean, I, yeah, yeah, us old men like

that get stuck in our ways, I get that.

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I hear, I hear what you're saying, Katie.

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Katie: too.

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I'm saying I do it too.

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Like that, I, I think it's you, you have

to take care to not let that happen.

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Meaning

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Zabe: Absolutely.

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Katie: end up

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listening to what they listened to

in high school and college forever.

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Zabe: I know I do.

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I'm still listening to The Cure

and The Smiths and Depeche Mode.

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And fortunately, all of those bands,

well not The Smiths, but Morrissey

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has, yeah, Carried on the Torch.

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A lot of those are, remained

relevant as I've gotten older.

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They've, they still turned out

awesome albums and great, great music.

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So, I've been able to stay in touch

with the bands that I love that have

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survived through the 90s.

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Yeah, it continued on.

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I'm still waiting for the

Cure's new album to come out.

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Robert Smith, if you're going

to listen to this episode, we're

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all waiting for the new album.

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We want it out as soon

as possible, please.

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Katie: He's going to reply on,

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Zabe: Please leave a comment

on this episode on Spotify.

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Katie: Yeah, that's exactly

what he's going to do.

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So I'll keep you posted on that.

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Zabe: thank you.

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Katie: Okay.

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So the number six song is one

that I had to look up because.

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The title is called missing the

group is everything but the girl.

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And I was like, what is that?

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is that I'll probably have to insert

the clip, but for you guys, it's

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Zabe: Sing it, Katie.

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Sing it!

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Katie: and I miss you like

the deserts missed the rain.

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That song,

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Robin: Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I haven't thought about that one in years.

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Katie: Semen, I didn't know the name of

the, everything but the girl is the name

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of the group and the title is missing.

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And I wouldn't have known that,

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down low in parentheses and

nobody has to know is R.

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Kelly

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Ronald Isley, you know, back in the

day, I really liked ignition, but.

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No bueno, R.

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Kelly.

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Robin: I know.

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Katie: you gotta go.

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Robin: Gotta

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Zabe: He who shall not be named.

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Katie: Okay, I'm pretty sure

you guys will know the next one.

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Do you remember the phenomenon

that was Joan Osborne's One of Us?

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Zabe: That, that song made a lot of

waves in the religious community.

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And yeah, I remember that

would have, God was one of us.

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Katie: Did it make waves in the religious

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Zabe: It did

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it well in my small, very

conservative Christian community.

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Raised them like it.

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So we talk a lot about the

satanic panic on our podcast

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and

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yeah.

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Katie: I guess.

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Zabe: yeah.

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and the 90s, you know, and, and to today,

even there's a lot of that going on, even

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in the political climate we have today,

which this is not a political show.

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So we're going to not mention it.

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However that was one of them.

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So

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the satanic panic,

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Katie: like the song?

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Zabe: no, they did not like the song

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Katie: Oh,

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Zabe: because here's what here, here

is, well, there, there, the song talks

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about the non deification, if that's the

word of God, like it's, it's, Belittling

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the deity of God to say what if he was

one of, just like a man or whatever.

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So,

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Katie: think

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that was a positive thing

that she was saying.

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Zabe: Well, I'm sure she did come

from it, from a positive thing, but

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a lot, I mean, I don't know if you

want this on your podcast, Katie, but

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I feel that a lot of religious leaders

of the day are just rich old white

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guys and they don't want to hear a

young woman saying, talking about God,

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frankly.

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Katie: I can

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see that.

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Zabe: So,

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Katie: It just reminded me of what's

her face up the picture of the Pope.

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Zabe: Sinead O'Connor,

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Katie: Sinead O'Connor,

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Yeah.

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Mm

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Zabe: she, she caught, she caught a lot

of flack for doing that as well, you know,

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but she had a political message that she

was saying, and it's unfortunate that

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we live in a society of men that don't

wanna hear women tell them what to do.

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And especially when it comes

to religious topics, which is

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insane and stupid and foolish.

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And so I remember that making

a lot of waves back in the day.

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Katie: I loved it.

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I really liked it.

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I can picture her face.

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She had a nose ring.

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I think

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Zabe: Sinead.

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Katie: the closeup.

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No, Joan Osborne in the

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Zabe: oh, oh oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I, I couldn't pick her out of a lineup.

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I, I couldn't tell you

what she looked like.

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I was too busy selling

flowers for 80 hours a week.

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Back then.

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Katie: bless you.

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Zabe: Yeah.

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Robin: not

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Anne Osborn, is she?

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Zabe: I don't think so.

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Robin: No.

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Yeah,

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I

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Zabe: not.

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Robin: gonna say.

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Katie: you mean like Ozzie's

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Robin: Ozzy,

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Katie: what you

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Robin: Sharon, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Katie: don't

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Zabe: No, I don't think so.

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Robin: don't think so.

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yeah.

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yeah, yeah.

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Sorry.

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I, I assumed that if that was the

case, y'all would, y'all would be like,

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yeah, Robin, come on, get with it.

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Zabe: She would sing the song.

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What if God ate a bat's head?

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That's the song.

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She'd be singing if

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She was related to Ozzy.

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Katie: last name.

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Robin: yeah.

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Katie: The Gin Blossoms, very 90s, has

the number nine song with Follow You Down.

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Till I hear it from you, which I

don't know about you, Robin, but

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empire records was like epic for me.

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You're maybe you're too young for it,

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Robin: I,

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Katie: empire records,

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Robin: no, I was too young

for that one, unfortunately.

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Katie: it's on that soundtrack.

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And that's, I picture

that movie with that song.

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Robin: Well, I love that song.

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I was literally just

listening to it this week.

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It's on one of my work playlists.

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Katie: Oh, nice.

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It's very nineties.

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I

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Robin: Oh, yeah.

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Katie: Now that we're going through these.

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Now the last one I had to look up to

because the name of it is be my lover.

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group is LaBouche.

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I, I'm not sure I'm pronouncing that

correctly, but it is that techno song.

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That's like, you want to

be my lover, like that one.

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You know what

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Robin: I'm not sure I know that one.

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Katie: Well, I'll insert it.

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Zabe: I remember the band named Labouche,

but I couldn't pick that song out.

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I

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remember the name

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Katie: I

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Zabe: so I would yeah I I do

remember the name so I don't know i'm

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thinking Right around the mid 90s.

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We see the harbingers of the

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downfall of

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modern music as it turns into boy, i'm

gonna have a lot of people hating me You

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Katie: It's a bunch of old people like us.

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Anyways.

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Zabe: well, you know, I don't, I

don't want to be that old man saying,

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well, music was better in my day, you

darn kids, you know, get off my lawn.

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Katie: Get off my lawn.

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Zabe: There's a reason why we're

struggling to come up with some

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of the names of these bands and

remember who they even were.

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These were top 10 bands in

the middle of the nineties.

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If you give us that same

list from the eighties.

399

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I would bet that even I think Robin

would know a lot of those bands being a

400

:

millennial from the eighties, even more

than, than some of these nineties bands.

401

:

And that is just to say that they

didn't make quite the same punch in

402

:

the pop culture as those 80 bands.

403

:

Now I have a theory about that

404

:

Katie: Hmm.

405

:

Zabe: Here we are in the, in the nineties,

we start to see the beginning of.

406

:

Like your Napster's

and your file sharings.

407

:

And I mean, it's, it's

right before that I get it.

408

:

97 is right before all that

kind of stuff kind of happens.

409

:

But as that happens the ability

to distribute music changes music

410

:

becomes more niche and people trying

to find their, their own way in

411

:

music, and as a, as a result, we

don't have so many commonalities.

412

:

Of, of music, if that makes any sense.

413

:

There's more outlets so people can choose

to where they get their stuff from now,

414

:

it's just like a, a pain glass window

being thrown down on a, on a concrete

415

:

floor, how it's splintered, you know,

people can get music any which way,

416

:

and there's no commonality anymore.

417

:

And like at all you can go your

whole life without hearing that

418

:

the number one artist, whoever it

is right now, if you choose to.

419

:

Yeah.

420

:

Katie: Mm hmm.

421

:

Zabe: And so, and I think we start to

see that around this time of the in

422

:

the timeline where music really becomes

fractured and people people aren't as

423

:

connected musically as they were previous.

424

:

Katie: Yeah, I, I, you have a

point there and I think it maybe

425

:

just took longer with TV, but TV

426

:

Zabe: Yeah, same thing

427

:

Katie: thing

428

:

Just, you know, We

429

:

Zabe: streaming services and yeah,

430

:

Katie: Mm

431

:

Zabe: it's not there's not that

Thursday night must see TV on NBC where

432

:

everyone's going to sit down and watch

the show and cheers and night court.

433

:

All on that same night and make the jokes

on Friday before school gets out, you know

434

:

Katie: Yeah.

435

:

We talk about that.

436

:

I mean, that's what the show is all

about reminiscing it's nostalgia.

437

:

, that's what we're here to do.

438

:

So I will say to give credit

when I do the billboards, it

439

:

is for that specific week.

440

:

And so there's a lot of change

that happens week over week.

441

:

So I guarantee that we'd all know.

442

:

You know, the top 25 for the

year,:

443

:

It's

444

:

Zabe: I'm curious to take

that challenge now katie.

445

:

Robin: We're going

446

:

Zabe: many labouches are there on that?

447

:

Katie: No, the year.

448

:

I think we'd all know like

top 10, definitely for 96.

449

:

We'd all know them.

450

:

All right.

451

:

So let's maybe move on from music.

452

:

What was going on and events of the day.

453

:

I think this is wild.

454

:

Just toll free numbers in and

of themselves are kind of crazy.

455

:

Unnecessary now,

456

:

Robin: Yeah.

457

:

Katie: but they were very necessary

in the 90s and there were so many of

458

:

them that we ran out of 800 numbers.

459

:

So we had to go to 888.

460

:

So that's what happened March of 1996.

461

:

The new toll free 888 area

code was introduced in the US.

462

:

Mm hmm.

463

:

you guys remember the Menendez boys?

464

:

Zabe: Oh, yeah.

465

:

Robin: yeah.

466

:

Katie: You do, Robin?

467

:

Or just from they're notorious,

468

:

Robin: say from Notorious,

I couldn't tell you.

469

:

Yeah, sorry.

470

:

I guess I don't think I mentioned

it before, but in:

471

:

So current events wise, I

wasn't really listening.

472

:

Katie: Well, you know, we

have a pretty good spread.

473

:

I'm the middle child here.

474

:

Robin: Yeah, for sure.

475

:

Zabe: I'm the old man.

476

:

Go ahead and say it.

477

:

Katie: No, no.

478

:

No, no.

479

:

So they were found guilty

of killing their parents.

480

:

That with the verdict came in, in

March of:

481

:

the big panic about mad cow disease?

482

:

Robin: Yes, because literally,

okay, this is relevant.

483

:

I, I was living in Germany with my family.

484

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My dad was an army guy growing up and

he, so we were stationed in Germany

485

:

for a period of time during that scare.

486

:

And I, until recently

could never donate blood,

487

:

but only

488

:

Katie: you

489

:

Robin: recently,

490

:

Katie: there at the

491

:

time.

492

:

Yeah.

493

:

Robin: exactly.

494

:

So yeah, no, that's literally

something that has affected my life.

495

:

Yeah.

496

:

Katie: wild.

497

:

Yeah.

498

:

It's, it seems like it was like really

big in the UK, but yeah, mad cow disease.

499

:

I don't know if either of you

are wrestling fans, but I have a

500

:

feeling that a lot of listeners are.

501

:

Yeah.

502

:

Yeah.

503

:

From, you know, back in the day,

or maybe they still are, but let's

504

:

see if I can do Roman numerals.

505

:

WrestleMania 12

506

:

Robin: Yeah.

507

:

Yeah.

508

:

Katie: at Arrowhead Pond

of Anaheim, California.

509

:

Shawn Michaels beats Bret Hart

for the WWF heavyweight title.

510

:

Those are probably the newer names.

511

:

If you were a wrestling fan, they

were, you know, mid nineties here.

512

:

I, cause I watched it in the eighties,

513

:

Zabe: Yeah.

514

:

Same.

515

:

I watched wrestling back when it was

real with Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper

516

:

and Jimmy Superflesh Snuka.

517

:

Katie: super real, super real.

518

:

A couple of people got married.

519

:

Angelina Jolie got married

to Johnny Lee Miller.

520

:

She was

521

:

Robin: Oh, boy,

522

:

Katie: 20 years old at the time.

523

:

They, they divorced in 2000 and at that

time, she then married Billy Bob Thornton.

524

:

Zabe: Did she get a vial of blood

from her first husband to wear as a

525

:

necklace as well or just Billy Bob?

526

:

Katie: it must've been something else

because they were too young to be married.

527

:

20 and 23, man.

528

:

Yeah.

529

:

Also Clint Eastwood at the age of

65 got married to his second wife.

530

:

I don't know who she, Dina

Ruiz was a news anchor.

531

:

Zabe: Was she the lead

singer for LaBouche?

532

:

Katie: Maybe.

533

:

So they got married in Vegas and

no, he is not still married to her.

534

:

They got divorced in 2014.

535

:

Zabe: Clint Eastwood got married

to his second wife in Vegas.

536

:

That is such a shock to me to hear.

537

:

Robin: at 65,

538

:

Zabe: Yeah,

539

:

that doesn't seem.

540

:

Katie: she was 30.

541

:

He was 65.

542

:

She was 30, which that tracks.

543

:

Yeah, I didn't look up.

544

:

He's probably married now.

545

:

I have a feeling that he, right?

546

:

He had a

547

:

Robin: you must be, yeah, but I

could not possibly tell you who.

548

:

Zabe: He's in like his 90s now.

549

:

Katie: and he's still working.

550

:

He's like 94,

551

:

Zabe: Yeah.

552

:

Katie: directing movies.

553

:

Robin: Yeah.

554

:

Directing and starring.

555

:

It's crazy.

556

:

Katie: yeah, it is crazy,

but I think that's the key.

557

:

Keep working.

558

:

Zabe: Yeah, my brother was

a huge Clint Eastwood fan.

559

:

We watched all the Clint

Eastwood movies growing up.

560

:

Not so much anymore though.

561

:

Katie: yeah, I like his son

because he's very good looking.

562

:

Scott,

563

:

Robin: He is.

564

:

Katie: think is his name.

565

:

I'm like,

566

:

Robin: Yeah.

567

:

Katie: he's handsome.

568

:

I'll, I'll watch whatever he's in.

569

:

Zabe: Why did both of you

ladies start like combing your

570

:

hair as soon as you mentioned,

571

:

you both tugged at your hair.

572

:

As soon as you mentioned Scott

Eastwood, it's just Oh, wow.

573

:

Katie: do.

574

:

That's so funny that we

didn't even know we did it.

575

:

I

576

:

Robin: No, I literally did not.

577

:

Katie: oh, funny.

578

:

Mm

579

:

Robin: Oh, no, not over Scott Eastwood.

580

:

Oh, amazing.

581

:

Katie: There was a very famous divorce

that I don't remember happening.

582

:

Winnie and Nelson Mandela got divorced

583

:

Robin: Oh.

584

:

Katie: in March of 1996

after 38 years of marriage.

585

:

Zabe: Well, I think 30 of

those years he was in prison.

586

:

So the marriage got along pretty good.

587

:

Katie: Yeah, I mean that I do think

that's kind of the key to a relationship

588

:

Zabe: Key to the relationship, half of

it has to be done from a prison cell.

589

:

Katie: Just a part

590

:

Robin: Doesn't necessarily have

to be prison, just your, you

591

:

know, separation of choice.

592

:

Katie: yeah, yeah yeah make me miss you.

593

:

Mm hmm.

594

:

Unfortunately, there is a famous person

who died this time George Burns Do you

595

:

Zabe: Oh,

596

:

Katie: George Burns from Oh,

597

:

God, Burns

598

:

Zabe: right.

599

:

Katie: the comedian and actor?

600

:

Robin: Yes.

601

:

Zabe: yeah.

602

:

Katie: years old

603

:

Robin: Wow.

604

:

Katie: And I have a note here that

his actual name is Nathan Birnbaum.

605

:

Zabe: We were not allowed to

watch those movies because they

606

:

said, Oh God, in them growing up.

607

:

That's how like restrictive my parents

were from letting us any kind of

608

:

religious satanic panicky type stuff.

609

:

It's a comedy.

610

:

It's George Burns for crying out loud.

611

:

Yeah.

612

:

My apologies to any fans.

613

:

Katie: Catholic now,

but I grew up Catholic.

614

:

Yeah I would be like, God, and my

mom would be like, do you mean gosh

615

:

yeah.

616

:

So, that was considered the

Lord's name in vain, but that's

617

:

not actually what it means.

618

:

Anyways.

619

:

Before we get into executive

decision, it was actually the

620

:

number 3 at the box office.

621

:

At this time in March but some other

big movies at the time, the bird cage

622

:

up close and personal, which was from

some of the songs were from that.

623

:

And I can't place what that is down.

624

:

Periscope bound to lost in San

Francisco, arrow, rumble in the Bronx.

625

:

Happy Gilmore.

626

:

Mr.

627

:

Holland's Opus, which was actually a

December 95 release, but it's still

628

:

topping the box office in March.

629

:

And Muppet Treasure Island.

630

:

Robin: Yes.

631

:

Katie: again, whenever we have

these, it is just wild to me

632

:

many just random movies got made.

633

:

Very few movies hit the theater

now, so it's, it's interesting

634

:

Robin: Oh, yeah.

635

:

Zabe: Those movies that you

mentioned, but to say that you're

636

:

the number three box office

637

:

Katie: amongst

638

:

Zabe: against up against that

rose gallery of garbage movies

639

:

is not really saying a whole lot

640

:

happy Gilmore.

641

:

That's probably the best

one on that whole list.

642

:

If you ask me

643

:

Robin: Are you sliding Tim Curry?

644

:

Am I hearing this right?

645

:

Zabe: what movie was that,

646

:

Katie: was Tim Curry

647

:

Robin: Muppet Treasure Island, y'all.

648

:

Katie: I've never seen it.

649

:

I've never seen it.

650

:

I do love Tim Curry, but

I've never seen that movie.

651

:

Zabe: would never slight

the name of Tim Curry.

652

:

I, I take it all back.

653

:

Robin: Thank you.

654

:

yes, also Happy Gilmore

was the only other one I

655

:

Zabe: Yeah,

656

:

Katie: The Birdcage, Down

Periscope, Broken Arrow.

657

:

Yeah.

658

:

Mr.

659

:

Holland's Opus.

660

:

Robin: yeah, Mr.

661

:

Honza was, of course.

662

:

Did it win the Oscar the year before?

663

:

Or no, it would have been eligible the

next year if it was a December relief.

664

:

Never mind, doesn't matter.

665

:

Katie: No, December.

666

:

It would have been a 96 Oscar.

667

:

Robin: Right?

668

:

And it would have been around that time.

669

:

I just wonder if longevity had something

to do with the Oscar race, maybe.

670

:

Anyway.

671

:

Katie: I am not a fan of What's His

Face, so I didn't, I didn't really

672

:

Robin: Oh, who

673

:

Zabe: I hate what's his face.

674

:

Oh,

675

:

Katie: oh, his name?

676

:

He was in Jaws.

677

:

The,

678

:

Robin: doll.

679

:

Zabe: Richard.

680

:

Richard Dreyfuss.

681

:

Katie: Dreyfus, yes, do not care

for Richard Dreyfus, so I was

682

:

never skedaddling to see Mr.

683

:

Holland's Office.

684

:

Zabe: I get in arguments

with my wife over that movie.

685

:

She enjoys that movie.

686

:

I find it to be hot garbage.

687

:

I really, really disliked Mr.

688

:

Holland's opus.

689

:

I know a lot of people love it.

690

:

But I just couldn't get past Mr.

691

:

Holland being such a dack.

692

:

He's like, such an awful father.

693

:

And, and, but my wife said, oh,

but he has redemption at the end.

694

:

I'm like, okay.

695

:

So he lived.

696

:

This child's whole life of being an

absent father, being just unloving and

697

:

uncaring about this kid who's got a

disability, and he all makes it up because

698

:

he learns a few words of sign language?

699

:

No.

700

:

He doesn't get a pass.

701

:

He's a piece of crap.

702

:

I'm out!

703

:

Katie: I remember very little from this,

maybe I'm thinking of the wrong movie,

704

:

is he not like a conductor of a band or

705

:

Zabe: Yeah, he is.

706

:

And his, his, yes, it is.

707

:

Robin: he at the high

school or something, right?

708

:

Zabe: But his son is

born hearing impaired.

709

:

So he cannot share his

love of music with his son.

710

:

So because his son, he can't

mold his son to conform

711

:

to him and enjoy the things that he loves.

712

:

Suddenly his kid is no

longer worthy of his love.

713

:

Now, maybe that's a very cynical

way to look at that movie, but you

714

:

know, that's one way to look at it.

715

:

Like, come on dad.

716

:

I, I dunno, maybe I just

got my Gen X trauma of

717

:

parental neglect in that

718

:

Katie: maybe

719

:

Zabe: our parents.

720

:

Demanded that our Children conform to

who they are, and it's not until more

721

:

recent parental, strategies, if that's

the right word to say, hey, let me

722

:

try and meet my kid where they're at

in their lives and try to help them

723

:

elevate and become good, decent people

in this world, rather than I'm going to

724

:

beat you down until you conform into,

you know, My politics, my religion,

725

:

my blah, blah, blah, blah, you know?

726

:

So I don't know.

727

:

I think people are going to

be who they're going to be.

728

:

And Mr.

729

:

Holland couldn't be bothered to

accept his son for who he was

730

:

rather than who he wanted him to be.

731

:

Katie: might have to rewatch this

movie and see what I think about it.

732

:

Cause I don't even, recall it,

733

:

Zabe: Thanks for coming to

my Ted talk, by the way.

734

:

Robin: was just gonna say,

Zave, I think it probably

735

:

doesn't hold up for that reason.

736

:

I, I think that trope has become a

little bit exactly what you're saying.

737

:

Old people are going, is

this something we like?

738

:

Is this something we

739

:

Zabe: Right.

740

:

Robin: know,

741

:

put on a pedestal?

742

:

Anyway,

743

:

Katie: Great point.

744

:

Well, I have a couple of questions

for you too, before we jump into

745

:

our executive decision discussion.

746

:

So.

747

:

And also listeners, if you're new,

this season of Reshiramade, season

748

:

one, I have dedicated to Patrick

Swayze and Kurt Russell, who I have

749

:

dubbed the ultimate everyman, right?

750

:

Robin: absolutely.

751

:

Katie: either have any thoughts or

fandom or anything that you want

752

:

to share about either of them?

753

:

Oh, nine.

754

:

Robin: I

755

:

Zabe: first, Robin.

756

:

Katie: nine.

757

:

Robin: again, I, you know, I was

probably, this is probably, you know,

758

:

with streaming and everything, I get to

go back and revisit stuff from the time.

759

:

So it's probably coming

after the fact, but.

760

:

Oh my gosh, I just love, love them both.

761

:

I you know, with Kurt, a lot of

it, frankly, is simply because

762

:

I think he and Goldie Hawn are

fabulous, love their daughter,

763

:

Kate Hudson, you know what I mean?

764

:

So that's important to me.

765

:

And then Patrick Swayze, I mean, you

know, God, when did, when did he pass?

766

:

Cause I think I remember it, but I don't.

767

:

Oh nine.

768

:

Yeah.

769

:

So it was around the time I was in

high school and I remember being sad

770

:

about it because just all of them.

771

:

His movie is amazing.

772

:

That one SNL sketch where he's,

773

:

Katie: God.

774

:

Robin: he's a Chippendales

775

:

Katie: love

776

:

Robin: dancer.

777

:

Oh, yeah, like I mean, I just,

I just think he's wonderful.

778

:

You know, I wish we were still

getting content from him, but

779

:

Katie: Well said.

780

:

Zabe: So, absolutely love Kurt

Russell from the moment that

781

:

I ever saw anything he was in.

782

:

From Escape from New York, from the minute

you see Snake Plissken doing his Snake

783

:

Plissken y things, you love Kurt Russell.

784

:

You move on to things like

Big Trouble in Little China.

785

:

How can you not love Kurt Russell and

that movie, even though a lot of people

786

:

pan that movie, they just don't get it.

787

:

I think they don't get it.

788

:

If you hate that movie, you just

don't understand what it's about,

789

:

Katie: Oh my God.

790

:

It's one of the best.

791

:

I love it so much.

792

:

Zabe: but he's so great.

793

:

Cause he can go do like

a rom com and overboard.

794

:

Kurt Russell can do anything.

795

:

Do you actually movie like tango and cash?

796

:

I don't know.

797

:

I can't remember if he's tango

or cash, but he's so awesome.

798

:

He should be both.

799

:

So

800

:

easy cash.

801

:

Okay.

802

:

Thank you.

803

:

Katie: Yeah.

804

:

It took me

805

:

Zabe: Okay.

806

:

Katie: to think

807

:

about it because I

808

:

Zabe: Right,

809

:

Katie: too.

810

:

Zabe: right.

811

:

But if you can hold your own

with Sylvester Stallone, right?

812

:

I mean, he's a force of nature,

you know, and, and he does.

813

:

So, always love Kurt Russell.

814

:

So when it came to

Patrick Stewart, however,

815

:

No, I'm talking about Patrick Stewart,

816

:

Katie: Oh.

817

:

Zabe: Patrick Stewart, the bald guy

from From Next Generation Star Trek.

818

:

Robin: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

819

:

Katie: What does he have to do with it?

820

:

Zabe: He's got nothing to do with it,

but I'm covering up the fact that I

821

:

mispronounced Patrick Swayze's name.

822

:

And I'm trying to make it sound

as if I'm meant to do that.

823

:

Katie: like, no, no.

824

:

That's what I meant to say.

825

:

Zabe: Sorry, Patrick Swayze is

826

:

always very near and near to my brain.

827

:

So yeah, I'm always, he's very

close to in my train of thought.

828

:

Patrick Swayze, please forgive me.

829

:

I had a very toxic older brother.

830

:

And as the youngest, you know, you kind

of take your cues from your older siblings

831

:

and my brother, like I said, super toxic.

832

:

And if he hated something, it

really put a, a dark cloud over.

833

:

It in the house.

834

:

So you naturally just become

prone to also disliking what

835

:

your older siblings may, dislike.

836

:

Anyways, he hated Patrick Swayze.

837

:

And as a result, like I had a

negative opinion of Patrick Swayze

838

:

for years and years and years.

839

:

Although I liked the movies he was in,

840

:

although I liked everything you did,

841

:

Katie: Time out.

842

:

How is it possible to hate?

843

:

I can see not loving,

but hate Patrick Swayze.

844

:

Zabe: you have to know, you have to

know my brother to understand this.

845

:

The guy can hate anything

if he sets his mind to it.

846

:

Like you said.

847

:

Katie: Okay.

848

:

Zabe: Super toxic.

849

:

I'm not saying he's right about it.

850

:

In fact, he's 100 percent wrong

about his hatred of Patrick Swayze.

851

:

I think some girl he had a crush on

said, Oh, Patrick Swayze, he's so dreamy.

852

:

And so suddenly, Oh, I,

you know what, that guy was

853

:

Katie: Oh,

854

:

Zabe: guy.

855

:

You know, so

856

:

Katie: oh yeah.

857

:

Zabe: stupid reasons, this one.

858

:

Katie: of guy thinking

he's making that same joke.

859

:

The twinkle toes dancing guy.

860

:

Zabe: Yeah.

861

:

Yeah.

862

:

Katie: your ass too.

863

:

And,

864

:

Zabe: A hundred percent

865

:

is jealousy.

866

:

At its heart, it's just jealousy, right?

867

:

He feels the same way about

any, name any heartthrob.

868

:

You're Johnny Depp, so

he hates Johnny Depp.

869

:

He hates Leonardo DiCaprio.

870

:

And, and, you know, he hates that guy.

871

:

Any, any, name any dude who gets the

ladies, and he hates them because,

872

:

I don't know, because he's jealous.

873

:

Anyway, I hope he never

hears this episode do.

874

:

Hope none of my family hears this episode.

875

:

Let's just

876

:

put that out there.

877

:

Katie: No.

878

:

I want you to share it on your socials.

879

:

Zabe: Well, you know, my listeners can

listen to it, but you know, anyways,

880

:

So I grew up with this like really

negative view of Patrick Swayze and

881

:

as I got older and broke out from

that Dark shadow that he put over me.

882

:

I'm like Patrick Swayze is awesome.

883

:

What's not to love about Patrick Swayze?

884

:

So my favorite Patrick Swayze movie is

885

:

Uncommon Valor

886

:

Katie: did you

887

:

Zabe: and

888

:

Katie: Uncommon Valor

889

:

episode?

890

:

Zabe: So as I'm preparing for this

episode that was the first one I went

891

:

to first one to listen to and I'll be

honest with you Katie I folded my arms.

892

:

I'm like all all upset that I wasn't able

to Be on that episode because that's the

893

:

one I really wanted to be on when she was

at patches ways The first thing I thought

894

:

I'm like, okay, let's see if these guys

that she has on Can do justice to this

895

:

movie the way I would do it and I want

to tell you katie You made the right

896

:

choice by having them on instead of me

897

:

because they were

898

:

Katie: to let them

899

:

Zabe: awesome They were great.

900

:

Even with that guy's

really fake british accent.

901

:

It was a great episode

902

:

And and and they had much more

intelligent things to say about it

903

:

than I would ever have so so good on

them and it was a great episode if

904

:

your listeners haven't checked out

that episode yet I highly recommend it.

905

:

I think it was a great one

906

:

Katie: thanks for the plug.

907

:

Zabe: Yeah, sure.

908

:

I plugged people to listen to your show

while they're listening to your show.

909

:

I don't know if that works, but

910

:

Katie: Well, it does because like I,

it's not the most well-known movie, so

911

:

some people might only listen to the

episodes of movies they know, you know.

912

:

Zabe: They're missing out.

913

:

I got a lot to say about that movie, but

we're not reviewing that movie but suffice

914

:

to say patch sweezy is great He acts his

ass off in that movie in a in a shoot

915

:

him up like You know war type movie This

guy is emoting and giving a performance.

916

:

And that's what you get

with Patrick Swayze.

917

:

Anything he's in, he's gonna

give you a performance.

918

:

Even in that, even in that

Chippendales SNL thing you guys,

919

:

he's still giving a performance.

920

:

And, and that's what propels the, you

know, the good actors are just the pretty

921

:

faces to the the real people that has

a craft and really applies themselves

922

:

to, to the, the craft of acting.

923

:

And that's what Patrick Swayze did.

924

:

RIP Patrick Swayze.

925

:

I want to say publicly, I was

wrong about you and I apologize

926

:

for ever having a negative

thought about you ever in my life.

927

:

You're, you're a treasure.

928

:

Katie: Also extremely well said and

I treasure is actually a word that

929

:

a lot of people use to describe

him He really is a treasure.

930

:

I love him.

931

:

Okay, this movie has Kurt in it

though, who I also love Now do

932

:

you guys think that there is any

resemblance between Kurt and Patrick?

933

:

Zabe: I've heard you say

this on prior episodes

934

:

Katie: What

935

:

Zabe: for it.

936

:

I think so only when they both have

the kind of mulledy kind of hair going

937

:

like that kind of, you know, business

up front party in the back type style.

938

:

But you call them the every man.

939

:

The first thing I thought of when you

said everyone, I'm like, dude, these guys

940

:

are not every man's, but if you really

dissect what they do, you're right.

941

:

They are they really take that

role, especially in the movie.

942

:

We're about to talk about.

943

:

He's very much the every man in the,

in the scope of the different cast

944

:

of characters that we see in this

movie, but we won't go there yet.

945

:

So they have comparisons in that.

946

:

They got charisma.

947

:

Coming out their ears they're

so lovable and maybe, maybe a

948

:

little bit in the looks, I guess.

949

:

So yeah, I see it.

950

:

Katie: about you Robin?

951

:

What do you think?

952

:

Robin: I could see it too.

953

:

Like Zabe said, I had heard you mention

this before on the show and I I was, so

954

:

it got me thinking about it because I

hadn't really contemplated it before.

955

:

ever since then I've been like,

oh my gosh, they must have been

956

:

constantly going after the same roles.

957

:

I never even thought of that.

958

:

Yeah, no, of course they were.

959

:

Katie: Mm-Hmm,

960

:

Robin: Crazy.

961

:

Cause yeah, they're, I

mean, great action stars.

962

:

Great everyman, like you're saying.

963

:

Able to just fall into whatever role,

but also able to like, be the relatable

964

:

person in the situation, you know.

965

:

yeah.

966

:

No, I can

967

:

Zabe: I, I,

968

:

Robin: it.

969

:

You've changed my mind.

970

:

Zabe: I take it maybe a step further

in that they, to say that they're

971

:

every man kind of isn't a hundred

percent accurate, but I'd say more.

972

:

So they are who the every

man would like to be,

973

:

Katie: Ooh, that's

974

:

an interesting spin.

975

:

I like that.

976

:

Zabe.

977

:

The reason I kind of dubbed them

that was that they kind of were in

978

:

the era of the superhuman action

stars like Arnold and Sly, and they

979

:

were, I guess, more known for their

acting and could still do the action.

980

:

They could do anything

essentially, including the action.

981

:

Yeah, but I like that.

982

:

That's who the Everyman wants me.

983

:

That's the relatable piece

that an Everyman has.

984

:

Zabe: but I,

985

:

Katie: always says, let's, I

986

:

I,

987

:

can picture myself having a beer with them

988

:

.

Zabe: I don't see Sly or Arnold Schwarzenegger being able to carry a movie

989

:

like dressed in drag, like two, one food.

990

:

Thanks for everything, Julie Newmar.

991

:

Right.

992

:

So, they were, they really,

993

:

Katie: Kurt was dressed

in dragon tango and cash.

994

:

If you recall for a minute,

995

:

Zabe: right.

996

:

I mean, I'm saying he can

do that is what I'm saying.

997

:

Katie: Oh yeah.

998

:

Yeah.

999

:

Zabe: I don't see Sly and,

and, and Schwarzenegger

:

00:44:30,026 --> 00:44:31,056

being able to pull that off.

:

00:44:31,256 --> 00:44:32,546

Katie: Oh, no, no.

:

00:44:32,546 --> 00:44:33,006

no.

:

00:44:33,116 --> 00:44:37,842

Zabe: Arnold can be pregnant and have

a baby, but not dressed as a woman.

:

00:44:37,842 --> 00:44:38,504

He can't.

:

00:44:38,504 --> 00:44:39,495

He had a

:

00:44:39,576 --> 00:44:41,246

Katie: odd one, Junior.

:

00:44:41,366 --> 00:44:41,856

Yeah.

:

00:44:44,756 --> 00:44:46,056

Zabe: flight of odd ones.

:

00:44:46,506 --> 00:44:47,046

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

00:44:47,486 --> 00:44:48,926

I really liked twins, though.

:

00:44:49,776 --> 00:44:50,166

Zabe: Sure.

:

00:44:50,396 --> 00:44:51,666

Katie: a lot, so.

:

00:44:52,216 --> 00:44:52,906

All right, you guys.

:

00:44:53,076 --> 00:44:56,986

Without further ado, shall we

get into the movie, executive?

:

00:44:57,306 --> 00:44:58,106

Decision.

:

00:45:03,866 --> 00:45:04,436

Zabe: A hundred percent.

:

00:45:05,346 --> 00:45:06,946

th,:

:

00:45:07,026 --> 00:45:08,596

It's over two hours long.

:

00:45:08,986 --> 00:45:09,505

It's got a 6.

:

00:45:09,506 --> 00:45:14,306

5 IMDB, which having done this

show for a while is pretty good.

:

00:45:14,686 --> 00:45:16,906

It's hard to get into

the sevens and eights.

:

00:45:18,861 --> 00:45:19,631

Extremely hard.

:

00:45:21,131 --> 00:45:24,061

it's a first time director, Stuart Baird.

:

00:45:24,091 --> 00:45:27,781

This was his debut but he actually

was nominated for editing.

:

00:45:27,791 --> 00:45:31,821

I don't think he directed anymore, but

he was really more known for an editor

:

00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:37,681

Gorillas in the Mist and the:

Superman, which I've not seen, but he was

:

00:45:37,821 --> 00:45:39,491

nominated for his editing skills there.

:

00:45:40,081 --> 00:45:42,021

Zabe: You've never seen

Superman the movie?

:

00:45:43,991 --> 00:45:44,121

Katie: I

:

00:45:44,361 --> 00:45:45,391

Zabe: Katie, Katie,

:

00:45:46,161 --> 00:45:46,751

we gotta talk.

:

00:45:47,171 --> 00:45:51,801

Katie: I'm, I admittedly am

not big on superhero movies

:

00:45:52,891 --> 00:45:53,291

Zabe: Okay,

:

00:45:53,561 --> 00:45:53,651

Katie: of

:

00:45:53,651 --> 00:45:54,251

Batman.

:

00:45:55,121 --> 00:45:55,491

Zabe: okay.

:

00:45:55,651 --> 00:45:56,341

Robin: How interesting.

:

00:45:56,671 --> 00:45:58,071

Zabe: Comic books taught me how to read.

:

00:45:58,151 --> 00:46:02,011

So, I'm, I'm a, I'm a big nerd when

it comes to all that kind of stuff.

:

00:46:02,651 --> 00:46:06,551

Katie: I do see the enormous

cultural impact that they had.

:

00:46:06,791 --> 00:46:07,601

Zabe: I still like you, Katie.

:

00:46:08,701 --> 00:46:09,671

We can still be friends.

:

00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:10,660

Katie: you're going to hate me though.

:

00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:12,480

If you listen, I have not seen Star Wars.

:

00:46:13,321 --> 00:46:13,581

Zabe: Okay.

:

00:46:13,891 --> 00:46:15,681

Oh no, my connection's getting bad.

:

00:46:15,681 --> 00:46:17,951

I don't think I can

continue with the podcast.

:

00:46:17,991 --> 00:46:18,281

I

:

00:46:22,495 --> 00:46:23,355

Katie: I know certain

:

00:46:23,371 --> 00:46:23,721

Robin: my god.

:

00:46:24,755 --> 00:46:25,655

Katie: yeah, I know.

:

00:46:25,685 --> 00:46:29,295

But you know, I like all the

other stuff, 80s and 90s related.

:

00:46:31,055 --> 00:46:34,965

I will say that the writers here it's kind

of an interesting mix that they wrote.

:

00:46:34,975 --> 00:46:37,485

It's Jim and John Thomas, a brother duo.

:

00:46:38,305 --> 00:46:42,605

things that they wrote were

Predator, awesome, Wild Wild West.

:

00:46:43,231 --> 00:46:43,581

Robin: Oh.

:

00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:45,610

Katie: seems very different, but

:

00:46:47,111 --> 00:46:47,531

Robin: I did not

:

00:46:47,641 --> 00:46:48,081

Zabe: think that

:

00:46:48,151 --> 00:46:48,591

Robin: were written by

:

00:46:48,591 --> 00:46:49,401

the same people.

:

00:46:49,890 --> 00:46:50,390

Katie: me neither.

:

00:46:51,181 --> 00:46:52,251

Zabe: Well, come on.

:

00:46:52,331 --> 00:46:56,891

There's definitely shades between

this movie and Predator, right?

:

00:46:57,551 --> 00:47:03,771

I mean, they got their multi cultural

special forces team going in to take

:

00:47:03,771 --> 00:47:05,391

care of the situation, you know?

:

00:47:05,911 --> 00:47:08,521

All with their colorful

cast of characters, right?

:

00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:10,610

Katie: That is so funny that you say that.

:

00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,250

I didn't even occur to me, but they

were, it was multicultural team.

:

00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:16,400

Yeah.

:

00:47:16,401 --> 00:47:18,525

Cappy.

:

00:47:18,581 --> 00:47:23,351

Zabe: Dutch and Doc and Cappy

and all that kind of stuff, yeah.

:

00:47:24,990 --> 00:47:28,890

Katie: Well, we have Kurt Russell as

our star here and he plays David Grant,

:

00:47:29,310 --> 00:47:31,170

who is the intelligence consultant.

:

00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,520

And if you guys have not seen this

movie in three years, 30 ish years.

:

00:47:38,610 --> 00:47:39,740

Here's a quick recap.

:

00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:46,050

Terrorists take over a 747 bound from

Athens to Washington DC, supposedly

:

00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:48,100

to affect the release of their leader.

:

00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,460

Intelligent expert, David Grant

suspects another reason and convinces

:

00:47:52,460 --> 00:47:56,070

the military that the plane should

not be allowed to enter us airspace.

:

00:47:56,380 --> 00:47:59,140

An assault mission is devised using a spy.

:

00:47:59,475 --> 00:48:04,675

Specially equipped plane that is

designed for mid air crew transfers.

:

00:48:04,935 --> 00:48:09,235

And Grant finds himself aboard the

747 with a team of military anti

:

00:48:09,235 --> 00:48:14,225

terrorists who have to defuse a

bomb and overpower the terrorists.

:

00:48:16,055 --> 00:48:17,305

So that's the situation we're in.

:

00:48:17,405 --> 00:48:21,705

And we have our Kurt Russell as doctor,

he's, he's even got a PhD, David Grant.

:

00:48:22,715 --> 00:48:25,625

Halle Berry is in this,

which I did not recall.

:

00:48:26,725 --> 00:48:28,075

I'm not sure if I've seen this.

:

00:48:28,075 --> 00:48:29,435

I'm sure I've seen it before.

:

00:48:29,435 --> 00:48:34,445

I just maybe wasn't paying attention, but

she plays the flight attendant gene, who

:

00:48:34,475 --> 00:48:36,225

is very helpful to the special ops team.

:

00:48:36,775 --> 00:48:38,535

Okay, here's what I found interesting.

:

00:48:38,705 --> 00:48:40,025

Steven Seagal.

:

00:48:40,395 --> 00:48:40,725

Okay.

:

00:48:40,725 --> 00:48:44,210

He is who I remembered

being in this movie.

:

00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:49,790

He plays Lieutenant

Colonel Austin Travis and

:

00:48:51,026 --> 00:48:51,356

Robin: Excellent.

:

00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:57,400

Katie: so he actually in the end, the end

credits, Steven Seagal is listed second,

:

00:48:57,586 --> 00:48:58,716

Robin: Second build!

:

00:48:58,716 --> 00:48:59,306

Yeah!

:

00:49:00,050 --> 00:49:04,960

Katie: but he was not listed

at all in the opening credits.

:

00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:05,960

Did you notice that?

:

00:49:06,426 --> 00:49:09,906

Robin: I thought it said Anne

Steven Seagal cause we were

:

00:49:10,256 --> 00:49:11,496

And maybe I'm wrong.

:

00:49:11,770 --> 00:49:12,140

Katie: maybe.

:

00:49:12,210 --> 00:49:13,167

I mean, maybe I missed

:

00:49:13,366 --> 00:49:17,296

Robin: We Cause I was watching it with

a couple siblings and my boyfriend

:

00:49:17,296 --> 00:49:22,051

and we were like John Leguizamo's

name was first in the opening credits?

:

00:49:22,111 --> 00:49:23,081

That's wild.

:

00:49:23,081 --> 00:49:26,101

And we were trying to figure out why,

and then about 15 minutes into the

:

00:49:26,101 --> 00:49:27,561

movie, we were like, oh, that's why.

:

00:49:28,925 --> 00:49:30,985

Katie: Yeah, I had not recalled that.

:

00:49:30,985 --> 00:49:31,665

We'll get into

:

00:49:31,781 --> 00:49:31,891

Robin: Yeah,

:

00:49:31,905 --> 00:49:32,125

Katie: in a

:

00:49:32,151 --> 00:49:32,371

Robin: yeah, Yeah,

:

00:49:32,411 --> 00:49:33,701

not this whole anything.

:

00:49:33,705 --> 00:49:38,225

Katie: yeah, no, no, no but to your

point joglet John Leguizamo plays.

:

00:49:38,365 --> 00:49:42,605

His name is rat special

forces guy and listeners.

:

00:49:42,605 --> 00:49:45,895

We talked about him because

he was in to Wong Fu.

:

00:49:46,095 --> 00:49:47,505

So we talked about him in that episode.

:

00:49:48,265 --> 00:49:49,135

Oliver Platt.

:

00:49:49,185 --> 00:49:53,095

We also talked about in

a previous made episode.

:

00:49:53,435 --> 00:49:59,005

He plays the airplane engineer,

Cahill is his name, he was also in

:

00:49:59,015 --> 00:50:02,335

Tall Tale with Patrick Swayze, so

listen to that episode if you haven't.

:

00:50:03,345 --> 00:50:07,325

Speaking of Cappy, Joe Morton Cappy.

:

00:50:07,705 --> 00:50:11,715

He's another one of the Special Forces

guys, and he specializes in bombs.

:

00:50:13,215 --> 00:50:17,055

He looked kind of familiar to me, but

I couldn't place him, but you might

:

00:50:17,055 --> 00:50:23,275

know him from, he was in Terminator 2,

Zack Snyder's Justice League, tons of

:

00:50:23,275 --> 00:50:28,755

TV work including, I didn't watch the

show, but maybe I should now Rowan Pope.

:

00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:31,840

Did you guys see that show?

:

00:50:32,131 --> 00:50:32,931

Robin: Oh, I

:

00:50:33,010 --> 00:50:35,260

Katie: must, that must be her

either husband or brother.

:

00:50:37,611 --> 00:50:39,981

Robin: Has been, but it must have

been after I stopped watching.

:

00:50:39,981 --> 00:50:42,501

I watched the first

season and a half of it.

:

00:50:43,001 --> 00:50:43,331

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:50:43,331 --> 00:50:47,991

And then apparently he was also

in speed playing the captain

:

00:50:48,011 --> 00:50:49,861

of a squad who defuses bombs.

:

00:50:50,231 --> 00:50:52,611

So must be his specialty.

:

00:50:53,921 --> 00:50:56,151

Zabe: This guy is Oh boy.

:

00:50:56,151 --> 00:50:57,611

He has a lunatic.

:

00:50:58,026 --> 00:51:02,256

He . So, Joe Morton is a, I mean, I

don't mean we love Joe Morton, right?

:

00:51:02,306 --> 00:51:03,146

He's a fine actor.

:

00:51:03,366 --> 00:51:06,061

In all honesty, he was great in T two.

:

00:51:06,361 --> 00:51:11,306

He brought a lot of humanity to that

role as the the, the dude who's about to

:

00:51:11,696 --> 00:51:14,686

bring about the AI overlords in Skynet.

:

00:51:16,096 --> 00:51:18,446

However he is a method actor.

:

00:51:19,366 --> 00:51:25,746

And in this movie, I mean, are we

giving away some spoilers here?

:

00:51:25,786 --> 00:51:26,206

Because

:

00:51:26,221 --> 00:51:26,351

Katie: it?

:

00:51:26,391 --> 00:51:28,921

I, I think I know where you're

going, but please tell us.

:

00:51:29,456 --> 00:51:37,786

Zabe: so in this movie he, he gets

a spinal cord injury and spins 90

:

00:51:37,786 --> 00:51:43,096

percent of the very long two hour movie

straps to a gurney through duct tape.

:

00:51:43,906 --> 00:51:48,766

And as a method actor, he

spent the entire 43 days.

:

00:51:49,261 --> 00:51:55,321

That they filmed this movie duct taped

to a gurney as an acting as if he in

:

00:51:55,321 --> 00:51:57,301

real life had a spinal cord injury.

:

00:51:58,371 --> 00:52:03,661

So when shooting wraps for this movie

his muscles has had atrophy to the

:

00:52:03,681 --> 00:52:07,851

point that when he walked out he

tore both of his Achilles tendons.

:

00:52:08,361 --> 00:52:08,581

Katie: Oh

:

00:52:08,581 --> 00:52:08,681

it's

:

00:52:08,731 --> 00:52:09,041

Zabe: So,

:

00:52:09,051 --> 00:52:09,321

Katie: them.

:

00:52:09,361 --> 00:52:09,591

Oh my

:

00:52:09,631 --> 00:52:15,261

Zabe: yeah, so he suffered

really life altering injuries

:

00:52:16,321 --> 00:52:20,191

method acting as a person who

suffered life altering injuries.

:

00:52:20,806 --> 00:52:25,556

So that can be taken acting a

little bit too far, but he's great.

:

00:52:25,786 --> 00:52:26,866

He he's good.

:

00:52:26,866 --> 00:52:28,356

Even in this movie, he's good.

:

00:52:29,401 --> 00:52:31,671

Katie: I really don't know him very well.

:

00:52:31,671 --> 00:52:34,141

I need to start, I'm going to

have to watch maybe Scandal

:

00:52:34,141 --> 00:52:35,121

or something, but That's

:

00:52:35,176 --> 00:52:35,876

Zabe: I just called him.

:

00:52:36,081 --> 00:52:36,471

Katie: insane.

:

00:52:36,916 --> 00:52:37,096

Zabe: Yeah.

:

00:52:37,096 --> 00:52:40,206

I just called him T2 guy the whole

time when I was watching the movie

:

00:52:40,476 --> 00:52:41,036

in my head.

:

00:52:41,036 --> 00:52:41,826

But yeah, I,

:

00:52:41,851 --> 00:52:42,751

Katie: in so long.

:

00:52:42,791 --> 00:52:43,221

Okay.

:

00:52:43,261 --> 00:52:44,191

yeah, I, have to rewatch.

:

00:52:44,566 --> 00:52:45,626

Zabe: but, but he's really good.

:

00:52:45,636 --> 00:52:46,546

That dying scene.

:

00:52:46,546 --> 00:52:47,556

He does in T2.

:

00:52:47,916 --> 00:52:48,236

It's good.

:

00:52:48,266 --> 00:52:48,776

It's good work.

:

00:52:49,276 --> 00:52:52,866

Katie: We have a sir, we

have a sir in, in this movie.

:

00:52:52,916 --> 00:52:59,726

So there's the main terrorist guy

who his name is El Said Yaffa.

:

00:53:00,936 --> 00:53:04,546

He's the terrorist leader and

he's played by Andreas Katsoulas.

:

00:53:05,446 --> 00:53:09,606

actually talked about him cause

he was in the next of kin episode.

:

00:53:10,636 --> 00:53:15,006

And then his I don't know if it was his

like secondhand, his Lieutenant of the.

:

00:53:15,466 --> 00:53:21,696

Terrorist group, Naji Hassan

is played by a Sir David

:

00:53:23,926 --> 00:53:26,466

Suchet, I believe is how you pronounce it.

:

00:53:26,556 --> 00:53:27,816

Robin: That's David Suchet?

:

00:53:28,246 --> 00:53:29,126

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:53:29,376 --> 00:53:30,396

Robin: Oh my gosh.

:

00:53:30,716 --> 00:53:32,276

Katie: David Suchet,

:

00:53:32,526 --> 00:53:33,026

Robin: yeah,

:

00:53:33,446 --> 00:53:34,596

Katie: Poirot!

:

00:53:34,676 --> 00:53:35,346

yeah, Yeah!

:

00:53:35,646 --> 00:53:36,296

TV show.

:

00:53:36,376 --> 00:53:36,826

Mm hmm.

:

00:53:36,916 --> 00:53:39,266

Robin: I'm you're blowing my mind here.

:

00:53:39,276 --> 00:53:41,966

I knew him, but I didn't

even clock that it was him.

:

00:53:41,986 --> 00:53:42,806

I never looked it up.

:

00:53:43,466 --> 00:53:43,856

Wow.

:

00:53:45,316 --> 00:53:45,546

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:53:45,546 --> 00:53:51,136

I mean, he's like a stage actor too, known

for A Perfect Murderer, The Bank Job and

:

00:53:51,136 --> 00:53:53,146

that Bat TV series, which I've not seen.

:

00:53:53,346 --> 00:53:54,176

BAFTA nominee.

:

00:53:55,321 --> 00:53:59,791

he didn't look familiar to me, but

he's like very well accomplished.

:

00:54:00,156 --> 00:54:00,476

Robin: Yeah.

:

00:54:01,481 --> 00:54:03,521

Zabe: I thought it was a

name like David Choucher.

:

00:54:03,701 --> 00:54:05,401

He'd be the lead singer of La Bouche.

:

00:54:05,961 --> 00:54:06,391

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:54:06,631 --> 00:54:07,421

Good callback.

:

00:54:07,441 --> 00:54:08,151

I like it.

:

00:54:08,456 --> 00:54:09,086

Robin: Really good.

:

00:54:09,521 --> 00:54:14,021

Katie: And then a very familiar face

to me because I love Law and Order SVU.

:

00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:15,221

BD Wong

:

00:54:15,596 --> 00:54:16,306

Robin: Yes!

:

00:54:16,751 --> 00:54:19,851

Katie: Louie, one of the

other special forces people.

:

00:54:20,401 --> 00:54:22,281

Zabe: A lot of Asian men named Louie.

:

00:54:22,711 --> 00:54:23,401

Katie: Louie.

:

00:54:24,786 --> 00:54:28,936

Zabe: I, I, I feel like they cast these

characters after they were all written.

:

00:54:28,976 --> 00:54:30,286

And no, you're going to play Louis.

:

00:54:31,246 --> 00:54:34,656

I think BD Wong's haircut does a

lot of his acting in this movie.

:

00:54:34,836 --> 00:54:35,446

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

00:54:35,636 --> 00:54:35,966

Zabe: Uh,

:

00:54:36,116 --> 00:54:36,446

Katie: Top.

:

00:54:36,486 --> 00:54:36,906

Yep.

:

00:54:37,126 --> 00:54:39,686

Zabe: he really, he leans heavy into that.

:

00:54:39,896 --> 00:54:41,816

This is a different kind

of role for BD Wong.

:

00:54:41,876 --> 00:54:44,176

He's playing like a tough

guy, like shooting fools.

:

00:54:44,206 --> 00:54:45,856

It's, it's, it's good for him.

:

00:54:46,266 --> 00:54:47,456

Katie: I thought the same thing.

:

00:54:47,466 --> 00:54:48,566

Very atypical.

:

00:54:48,586 --> 00:54:49,306

It was great.

:

00:54:49,346 --> 00:54:49,726

I mean, and

:

00:54:49,856 --> 00:54:50,216

Zabe: Yeah,

:

00:54:50,526 --> 00:54:50,896

He did.

:

00:54:50,916 --> 00:54:52,956

Katie: just not used to seeing

him in that kind of a role.

:

00:54:52,966 --> 00:54:53,306

Yeah.

:

00:54:54,336 --> 00:54:55,856

Robin: No, he and John both looked great.

:

00:54:55,866 --> 00:54:57,556

That was one of the first

things I wrote down.

:

00:54:57,886 --> 00:54:58,636

I was like, wow.

:

00:54:59,226 --> 00:55:00,326

Really good era for them.

:

00:55:00,346 --> 00:55:00,626

Katie: one?

:

00:55:00,836 --> 00:55:01,006

Robin: And John

:

00:55:01,006 --> 00:55:02,316

Leguizamo, yeah.

:

00:55:02,416 --> 00:55:03,996

Katie: You guys, I knew he was in this.

:

00:55:04,036 --> 00:55:07,936

And the first scene is they're

trying to capture something like a,

:

00:55:08,786 --> 00:55:09,846

Zabe: They get in the nerve gas.

:

00:55:10,026 --> 00:55:10,906

Katie: Yes, the nerve gas.

:

00:55:10,916 --> 00:55:14,626

so it's this mission and they

have paint on their faces.

:

00:55:14,626 --> 00:55:19,826

We can see it's special ops guys in the

scene and I knew John was in this, but

:

00:55:19,826 --> 00:55:23,636

I, I didn't recognize him until he spoke

and I'm like, Oh, there that's him.

:

00:55:24,456 --> 00:55:24,806

gosh.

:

00:55:24,816 --> 00:55:25,106

Yeah.

:

00:55:25,986 --> 00:55:30,881

Zabe: My question for everyone listening

is Remember the movie they're doing

:

00:55:30,881 --> 00:55:35,361

this nighttime raid to try and get

these terrorists to get the the nerve

:

00:55:35,371 --> 00:55:39,761

gas And they're coming in with their

their guns and they got their their

:

00:55:39,761 --> 00:55:43,431

fatigues on they got all their stuff And

they're doing the nighttime, right and

:

00:55:43,431 --> 00:55:46,581

they got white makeup on their faces.

:

00:55:47,191 --> 00:55:48,171

Did you guys notice that

:

00:55:48,551 --> 00:55:50,331

they've like white

:

00:55:50,626 --> 00:55:51,136

Robin: Super weird.

:

00:55:51,311 --> 00:55:56,381

Zabe: like guys First rule of

nighttime sneaky sneaky ops like

:

00:55:56,721 --> 00:55:57,991

don't paint your face is white

:

00:55:58,676 --> 00:56:00,616

Katie: I feel like it

was both black and white.

:

00:56:00,656 --> 00:56:02,366

I don't know if they were

trying to camouflage or

:

00:56:02,551 --> 00:56:05,471

Zabe: they well, you know, I

don't, don't just have a podcast.

:

00:56:05,471 --> 00:56:08,761

I also have a makeup

tutorial, a YouTube page,

:

00:56:09,041 --> 00:56:12,451

and you got to put the white base

down before you do, you got your

:

00:56:12,451 --> 00:56:15,911

foundation, Katie, and then you

put on the layers, that's it.

:

00:56:17,281 --> 00:56:17,751

Katie: Yeah,

:

00:56:18,096 --> 00:56:22,166

Robin: I mentioned before that I'm

an army brat and I grew up with a dad

:

00:56:22,196 --> 00:56:25,596

sitting next to me on the couch going,

now here's why this is all wrong.

:

00:56:25,966 --> 00:56:26,826

You know what I mean?

:

00:56:26,861 --> 00:56:27,701

Katie: bet.

:

00:56:27,776 --> 00:56:31,376

Robin: so, so to this day, that

kind of thing, I just, we, we were

:

00:56:31,376 --> 00:56:34,356

laughing like Steven Seagal doing

all this cool stuff with the knife.

:

00:56:34,416 --> 00:56:36,436

I was like, this is hilarious.

:

00:56:37,481 --> 00:56:39,586

Zabe: I would love to watch

this movie with your dad.

:

00:56:39,706 --> 00:56:39,926

Robin: Oh

:

00:56:40,046 --> 00:56:41,226

Zabe: That would be so fun.

:

00:56:41,816 --> 00:56:44,626

Robin: He came in at one point

and said, Steven Seagal's in this.

:

00:56:44,656 --> 00:56:45,766

That's why I haven't seen it.

:

00:56:45,766 --> 00:56:46,336

And then he left.

:

00:56:47,351 --> 00:56:47,751

Katie: Now

:

00:56:47,886 --> 00:56:49,686

Robin: Yeah,

:

00:56:49,811 --> 00:56:53,021

Katie: I will say I am so not

a fan of Steven Seagal like

:

00:56:53,111 --> 00:56:55,091

at all for so many reasons.

:

00:56:55,371 --> 00:56:57,741

I don't leave his behavior out of it.

:

00:56:57,741 --> 00:57:04,061

He's a horrible actor, but I will say I.

:

00:57:04,936 --> 00:57:08,656

Was a little surprised he

wasn't bad in this granted.

:

00:57:08,656 --> 00:57:09,856

He's in it for 15 minutes.

:

00:57:09,946 --> 00:57:10,456

But yeah,

:

00:57:11,486 --> 00:57:11,656

Zabe: Yeah.

:

00:57:11,656 --> 00:57:14,226

Your dad could have watched most

of this movie, Robin, because

:

00:57:14,346 --> 00:57:15,986

Steven Seagal is like barely in it.

:

00:57:16,446 --> 00:57:17,266

Robin: I'm gonna tell him.

:

00:57:17,266 --> 00:57:18,156

He should check it out.

:

00:57:18,656 --> 00:57:19,516

Katie: He still looks.

:

00:57:19,516 --> 00:57:20,036

All right.

:

00:57:20,066 --> 00:57:21,736

He hasn't gone off the deep end

:

00:57:21,976 --> 00:57:22,366

Robin: Yeah,

:

00:57:22,836 --> 00:57:23,016

Katie: You

:

00:57:23,326 --> 00:57:23,906

Zabe: I don't know.

:

00:57:23,906 --> 00:57:26,536

He's wearing a very

obvious wig in this movie.

:

00:57:26,766 --> 00:57:27,706

If you look at his hair,

:

00:57:28,086 --> 00:57:29,106

look at it really close.

:

00:57:29,106 --> 00:57:30,386

It's it's super wiggy.

:

00:57:30,766 --> 00:57:31,646

Katie: of course it is.

:

00:57:31,776 --> 00:57:32,766

But yeah, I mean, he's not.

:

00:57:33,136 --> 00:57:34,806

Obese yet, you know,

:

00:57:36,076 --> 00:57:39,896

Robin: No, and and maybe it was

simply because they, you know, his

:

00:57:39,906 --> 00:57:43,566

time was limited and so they just

got to keep the gold of his acting.

:

00:57:43,846 --> 00:57:48,456

But he really, it wasn't a, it was

not a bad, I was expecting it to

:

00:57:48,466 --> 00:57:51,426

be a lot more, you know, cheesy

and over the top and everything.

:

00:57:51,436 --> 00:57:53,746

But it was not, it wasn't a

bad performance for the role.

:

00:57:53,756 --> 00:57:55,146

Katie: thought he was pretty restrained.

:

00:57:55,146 --> 00:57:56,336

I'm like, wow.

:

00:57:56,346 --> 00:57:56,836

Okay.

:

00:57:58,216 --> 00:57:58,966

Zabe: Restrained.

:

00:57:58,976 --> 00:58:00,726

He's like catatonic.

:

00:58:00,736 --> 00:58:02,326

He's, I mean, that's him acting though.

:

00:58:02,336 --> 00:58:06,066

It's just, Hey, and just like

staring at the camera and Hey.

:

00:58:06,441 --> 00:58:09,911

You know, that's all he like basically

does and like bosses everyone around.

:

00:58:10,301 --> 00:58:14,891

And I, he just tells everyone

what to do and they just do it.

:

00:58:15,441 --> 00:58:17,331

For no apparent reason,

you know what I'm saying?

:

00:58:17,331 --> 00:58:17,711

Like,

:

00:58:18,206 --> 00:58:22,316

Robin: It's like the acting of the

guys following his orders was like

:

00:58:22,336 --> 00:58:26,126

making him seem like he was giving

a good performance as a leader.

:

00:58:26,126 --> 00:58:27,526

I

:

00:58:27,696 --> 00:58:28,236

Katie: Robin.

:

00:58:28,396 --> 00:58:28,696

Robin: I wonder

:

00:58:28,786 --> 00:58:31,316

Zabe: yeah, he he's in

the movie for 15 minutes.

:

00:58:31,866 --> 00:58:36,476

or whatever it really is, like the amount

of screen time is very short, but in

:

00:58:36,476 --> 00:58:41,306

those, that short amount of time, he was

able to get into fights with most every

:

00:58:41,306 --> 00:58:46,756

actor listed in this movie, and directors

and producers nobody had anything good

:

00:58:46,756 --> 00:58:51,986

to say about working with Steven Seagal

in this movie, or in life, I guess,

:

00:58:52,176 --> 00:58:55,896

he's just a kind of cantankerous I

:

00:58:55,896 --> 00:58:56,986

Katie: about that then.

:

00:58:57,536 --> 00:59:02,796

Like the drama and the rumors surrounding

why Steven Seagal was in this.

:

00:59:03,156 --> 00:59:06,696

For such a short amount of

time well, a, I did read that.

:

00:59:07,926 --> 00:59:09,146

He is a draw.

:

00:59:09,596 --> 00:59:13,426

Somehow, in some other countries I

did read that his face was added

:

00:59:13,426 --> 00:59:17,276

to the covers and the posters for

some of the foreign markets, like

:

00:59:17,296 --> 00:59:21,676

Indonesia, Germany, Dutch cinema,

posters, VHS corners, blah, blah, blah.

:

00:59:22,106 --> 00:59:22,506

Robin: Wow.

:

00:59:22,586 --> 00:59:22,826

Katie: he was

:

00:59:22,836 --> 00:59:23,746

popular there.

:

00:59:23,846 --> 00:59:25,386

Yeah, and

:

00:59:26,236 --> 00:59:27,036

Zabe: got theory on that.

:

00:59:27,296 --> 00:59:28,116

Katie: oh, okay.

:

00:59:28,566 --> 00:59:36,006

Zabe: Well, he, he became very popular

before this movie came out and this is

:

00:59:36,006 --> 00:59:37,826

before the fall of the iron curtain.

:

00:59:38,206 --> 00:59:42,526

And so I think a lot of these people

could only get bootleg copies of movies

:

00:59:43,736 --> 00:59:47,496

and the only movies that nobody really

cared about to pursue legally was.

:

00:59:48,061 --> 00:59:48,911

Steven Seagal movies.

:

00:59:49,181 --> 00:59:54,101

So that's why he's very popular

amongst the war torn countries

:

00:59:54,326 --> 00:59:55,036

Katie: Mm.

:

00:59:55,761 --> 00:59:58,331

Zabe: tough macho dude

to, to give an example.

:

00:59:58,681 --> 01:00:00,791

And what an example Steven Seagal is.

:

01:00:00,946 --> 01:00:01,836

Katie: He is.

:

01:00:02,196 --> 01:00:07,726

Well, so according to the former Warner

brothers, vice president, he stated that.

:

01:00:08,106 --> 01:00:13,366

Seagal had agreed to do the role in

exchange for the studio for giving

:

01:00:13,366 --> 01:00:17,576

him for losing his director's salary

due to going over budget with the

:

01:00:17,576 --> 01:00:19,966

directorial debut on deadly ground.

:

01:00:20,591 --> 01:00:21,041

Zabe: Wow.

:

01:00:21,496 --> 01:00:22,116

Robin: Wow.

:

01:00:23,696 --> 01:00:26,866

Katie: And then the rumors that we

talked about was there were rumors

:

01:00:26,866 --> 01:00:29,406

that he was written out as opposed to,

:

01:00:30,206 --> 01:00:31,716

Robin: being part of

the plan the whole time.

:

01:00:31,726 --> 01:00:31,746

Yeah.

:

01:00:31,906 --> 01:00:32,226

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:00:32,226 --> 01:00:38,106

The forward facing publicly is that was,

that was just, we, we were wowed by it.

:

01:00:38,106 --> 01:00:40,146

I actually was like, Oh

shit, Steven Skull's dead.

:

01:00:40,166 --> 01:00:40,716

Okay.

:

01:00:41,586 --> 01:00:41,676

Robin: Yeah.

:

01:00:42,496 --> 01:00:44,856

Katie: cause I haven't, I didn't

remember watching this movie.

:

01:00:45,206 --> 01:00:45,486

So.

:

01:00:45,966 --> 01:00:51,836

Was it a plot device or was it due

to some behind the scenes issues like,

:

01:00:51,846 --> 01:00:56,246

he's notorious for sexual sexually

harassing people domestic violence.

:

01:00:56,396 --> 01:00:59,756

And to your point, Zay, by getting

in fights with people on the set.

:

01:01:00,496 --> 01:01:02,186

Ego control issues.

:

01:01:03,021 --> 01:01:08,021

Zabe: So when they're flying up in

the stealth fighter or whatever plane

:

01:01:08,131 --> 01:01:12,491

that was, and they get the little

like suction cuppy thing up into the

:

01:01:12,501 --> 01:01:18,041

bottom of the, the airliner, And they

make such a big deal out of it all.

:

01:01:18,761 --> 01:01:22,591

If you've seen any movies At all, you

know that well, there's a reason why

:

01:01:22,591 --> 01:01:26,221

they're building the tensioner Someone's

getting sucked out of that plane

:

01:01:26,491 --> 01:01:27,931

and someone's gonna go flying away.

:

01:01:27,931 --> 01:01:33,111

So I I called my shot Well, well surely

there'll be some Fisticuffs at the

:

01:01:33,111 --> 01:01:36,431

end and someone's gonna get sucked out

And the big bad guy will get sucked

:

01:01:36,431 --> 01:01:39,611

out of the plane and like probably go

through the engine on his way out Right,

:

01:01:39,756 --> 01:01:40,186

Katie: yeah.

:

01:01:40,281 --> 01:01:41,171

Zabe: what I called, you know,

:

01:01:41,286 --> 01:01:41,626

Katie: right.

:

01:01:41,666 --> 01:01:41,786

Mm

:

01:01:41,941 --> 01:01:43,081

Zabe: yeah, so i'm like, okay.

:

01:01:43,081 --> 01:01:47,851

Well, this is here here it comes and

suddenly There goes Steven Seagal.

:

01:01:47,871 --> 01:01:49,481

He's like getting sucked out the plane.

:

01:01:49,601 --> 01:01:50,361

He's gonna die.

:

01:01:50,641 --> 01:01:52,621

And I'm like, I looked at

my wife when we're watching.

:

01:01:52,621 --> 01:01:54,941

I'm like, did Steven Seagal just die?

:

01:01:55,181 --> 01:01:58,071

Like, did they just get rid

of Steven Seagal so early?

:

01:01:59,071 --> 01:02:03,071

And that, to me, in all honesty,

that's my favorite part of the movie.

:

01:02:03,401 --> 01:02:06,761

It's not because I got to see Steven

Seagal fall from 30, 000 feet.

:

01:02:07,271 --> 01:02:09,861

It's just because it was such a surprise.

:

01:02:09,931 --> 01:02:13,921

And to their credit in these kinds of

action type movies where things kind

:

01:02:13,921 --> 01:02:15,791

of go by the, by the numbers mean

:

01:02:16,301 --> 01:02:19,661

they foreshadow things, you know, from

the beginning of the movie, you see

:

01:02:19,661 --> 01:02:21,741

it coming a mile away Kurt Russell.

:

01:02:22,196 --> 01:02:23,046

Learning to

:

01:02:23,426 --> 01:02:24,426

taking flying lessons.

:

01:02:24,426 --> 01:02:24,796

Okay.

:

01:02:24,796 --> 01:02:26,686

Well, clearly he's going

to have to land the plane.

:

01:02:27,366 --> 01:02:28,366

Oliver Platt

:

01:02:29,496 --> 01:02:31,426

chewing on that thing from the get go,

:

01:02:31,686 --> 01:02:32,296

chewing on a straw.

:

01:02:32,316 --> 01:02:33,826

Like he has that thing

throughout the whole movie.

:

01:02:33,826 --> 01:02:36,786

He's like, they don't do that kind

of stuff unless there's a reason why.

:

01:02:37,366 --> 01:02:38,386

Katie: It has to be paid off.

:

01:02:38,396 --> 01:02:38,786

Yeah,

:

01:02:38,846 --> 01:02:39,076

Zabe: Right.

:

01:02:39,076 --> 01:02:40,026

There has to be a payoff.

:

01:02:40,026 --> 01:02:40,276

Right.

:

01:02:40,296 --> 01:02:43,696

So you see all that come in,

they were able to throw a

:

01:02:43,706 --> 01:02:45,496

couple of curve balls in you.

:

01:02:45,496 --> 01:02:46,796

And this was the best one.

:

01:02:47,036 --> 01:02:48,456

And I think the best part of the movie.

:

01:02:48,481 --> 01:02:48,491

I

:

01:02:50,566 --> 01:02:51,736

Katie: there were some good moments.

:

01:02:51,736 --> 01:02:59,686

I did think it tension very

effectively Yeah, leg Seagal

:

01:02:59,686 --> 01:03:00,956

just to wrap that that up.

:

01:03:00,956 --> 01:03:03,926

He's got stories about

physically being assaulted by

:

01:03:04,336 --> 01:03:04,486

Robin: Oh,

:

01:03:04,616 --> 01:03:05,076

Katie: him

:

01:03:05,126 --> 01:03:07,916

Robin: I just was, I didn't

know that Leguizamo and him had

:

01:03:07,916 --> 01:03:09,106

come to blows, that's crazy.

:

01:03:09,971 --> 01:03:10,521

Katie: The story is

:

01:03:10,536 --> 01:03:11,546

Zabe: think it's Kurt Russell.

:

01:03:11,546 --> 01:03:14,446

Oh, like

:

01:03:14,696 --> 01:03:15,396

Robin: Oh, really?

:

01:03:15,606 --> 01:03:16,236

Wow.

:

01:03:17,171 --> 01:03:20,861

Katie: So there was rumor that

Kurt that really disliked him and

:

01:03:20,861 --> 01:03:22,211

that's why they wrote him off.

:

01:03:22,571 --> 01:03:28,671

And then John Leguizamo wrote in his

autobiography that filming, so Steven

:

01:03:28,671 --> 01:03:32,481

Seagal, apparently, I don't know this

man, but apparently, according to John

:

01:03:33,081 --> 01:03:38,821

he physically attacked him because

during rehearsals, Seagal had come

:

01:03:38,821 --> 01:03:41,411

in and told the cast, I'm in command.

:

01:03:41,581 --> 01:03:43,421

What I say is law.

:

01:03:43,811 --> 01:03:46,941

John thought he was joking,

apparently, you know, according

:

01:03:46,941 --> 01:03:48,241

to John, he thought he was joking.

:

01:03:48,281 --> 01:03:51,351

So he started to laugh and Seagal

proved him wrong by slamming him

:

01:03:51,351 --> 01:03:54,971

against a brick wall with an Aikido

elbow, knocking all the air out of

:

01:03:54,971 --> 01:03:56,151

him, dropping him to the ground.

:

01:03:58,146 --> 01:04:02,246

Zabe: What I think, in Steven

Seagal's defense, he might have

:

01:04:02,246 --> 01:04:06,556

been taking acting lessons from John

Morton and just being in character

:

01:04:06,576 --> 01:04:08,436

Katie: Oh, yeah,

:

01:04:08,611 --> 01:04:09,231

Zabe: I'm just kidding.

:

01:04:09,291 --> 01:04:10,371

There's no way that's true.

:

01:04:10,781 --> 01:04:11,841

Steven Seagal's a dack.

:

01:04:12,266 --> 01:04:14,526

Robin: and there's no way

that that's okay either way.

:

01:04:15,026 --> 01:04:19,176

Katie: So these two had a

falling out, so to speak later.

:

01:04:20,201 --> 01:04:24,301

So Leguizamo confirmed that he confirmed

he did not have a good time with Seagal.

:

01:04:24,331 --> 01:04:25,121

No one has.

:

01:04:25,931 --> 01:04:29,481

According to the observer, Seagal

threatened to attack Leguizamo if

:

01:04:29,481 --> 01:04:34,581

they ever crossed paths the red

carpet after learning that John

:

01:04:34,591 --> 01:04:37,321

had mocked him on his comedy show.

:

01:04:37,671 --> 01:04:41,021

However, Leguizamo says

he was not threatened.

:

01:04:41,466 --> 01:04:47,006

And his clap back was, I don't think he's

invited to a lot of red carpets anyway.

:

01:04:48,706 --> 01:04:48,946

Robin: That's

:

01:04:49,281 --> 01:04:51,631

Zabe: I can't imagine Steven

Seagal and John Leguizamo

:

01:04:51,641 --> 01:04:52,821

having a whole lot in common.

:

01:04:53,291 --> 01:04:55,641

You know, they're not going

to be buddies no matter what.

:

01:04:55,986 --> 01:04:56,856

Robin: in the same circles.

:

01:04:57,186 --> 01:05:01,426

Katie: no, but I do I have a tendency

to lean towards lean believing

:

01:05:01,426 --> 01:05:04,166

John, just because there were so

many reports of everybody having

:

01:05:04,266 --> 01:05:06,416

very similar problems with him.

:

01:05:06,701 --> 01:05:06,801

Mm

:

01:05:07,181 --> 01:05:11,321

Zabe: I lean towards believing John

Leguizamo too because my alternative

:

01:05:11,361 --> 01:05:13,101

is believing Steven Seagal.

:

01:05:14,691 --> 01:05:15,211

Katie: That's true.

:

01:05:15,421 --> 01:05:16,031

That's true.

:

01:05:16,211 --> 01:05:17,941

There's a couple other

people that I wanted to shout

:

01:05:17,941 --> 01:05:19,001

out for a couple of reasons.

:

01:05:19,001 --> 01:05:24,481

So whip Hubley he played Baker,

another one of the special forces guys.

:

01:05:24,771 --> 01:05:28,501

He is most known for playing

Hollywood in top gun.

:

01:05:29,236 --> 01:05:29,916

Robin: Oh, yeah.

:

01:05:30,066 --> 01:05:31,356

Yeah, we were just talking about that.

:

01:05:31,736 --> 01:05:34,856

Katie: And I covered North and

South the mini series with Patrick

:

01:05:34,856 --> 01:05:36,506

Swayze, and he was in book two of that.

:

01:05:36,966 --> 01:05:38,306

So we covered that.

:

01:05:38,706 --> 01:05:42,246

But did you guys, do you guys know

who Whip Hubley is to Kurt Russell?

:

01:05:44,606 --> 01:05:44,996

Robin: No.

:

01:05:45,356 --> 01:05:45,746

Katie: His ex

:

01:05:45,751 --> 01:05:46,251

Zabe: He got him,

:

01:05:46,616 --> 01:05:47,096

Katie: Kurt

:

01:05:47,756 --> 01:05:47,896

Robin: What?

:

01:05:48,986 --> 01:05:52,806

Katie: used to be married to

Season Hubley, Whip's sister.

:

01:05:53,176 --> 01:05:54,666

Robin: Wow.

:

01:05:54,866 --> 01:05:56,596

Wow, it must have been very friendly.

:

01:05:57,261 --> 01:06:00,581

Katie: Yeah, yes, it's their ex brother

in law's because they, they had been

:

01:06:00,581 --> 01:06:02,841

divorced for quite a while by this time.

:

01:06:03,481 --> 01:06:05,951

That family has interesting

names, Season and Whip.

:

01:06:07,301 --> 01:06:13,231

And then, an actor who Kurt really

respects, and I do too, and he's been

:

01:06:13,231 --> 01:06:15,461

in four movies with Kurt, JT Walsh.

:

01:06:15,741 --> 01:06:18,101

He played the high profile senator.

:

01:06:19,156 --> 01:06:19,286

Robin: Oh,

:

01:06:19,361 --> 01:06:19,681

Katie: ends up

:

01:06:19,766 --> 01:06:19,846

Robin: yeah.

:

01:06:20,121 --> 01:06:22,191

Katie: shot Mavros.

:

01:06:22,831 --> 01:06:27,831

So we've already talked about JT Walsh,

because he was also in a breakdown with

:

01:06:27,831 --> 01:06:32,491

Kurt and backdraft and then this movie.

:

01:06:32,541 --> 01:06:36,451

And then a, a yet to be covered

in season one tequila sunrise.

:

01:06:36,881 --> 01:06:38,841

So he incurred four movies together,

:

01:06:39,596 --> 01:06:40,756

Zabe: That guy's in a lot of stuff.

:

01:06:40,846 --> 01:06:44,866

I mean, he always plays kind of the same

kind of dude, just like, he's always

:

01:06:44,866 --> 01:06:48,406

in a suit, you know, or always like

wearing a tie or something like that.

:

01:06:48,671 --> 01:06:50,821

Katie: except for in

breakdown, he plays a trucker.

:

01:06:51,416 --> 01:06:51,986

Zabe: Oh, well,

:

01:06:52,226 --> 01:06:52,486

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:06:52,546 --> 01:06:53,356

No, he's a really good

:

01:06:53,356 --> 01:06:53,616

actor.

:

01:06:53,616 --> 01:06:53,956

I do.

:

01:06:54,006 --> 01:06:54,966

I do quite like him.

:

01:06:55,336 --> 01:06:58,746

And then I'm sure you guys clocked

the old Marla Maples as one

:

01:06:58,746 --> 01:06:59,906

of the other flight attendants

:

01:07:00,256 --> 01:07:00,396

Robin: Oh,

:

01:07:00,576 --> 01:07:01,096

Zabe: I did.

:

01:07:01,616 --> 01:07:01,756

Robin: Oh,

:

01:07:02,046 --> 01:07:04,726

Zabe: She doesn't have one line of

dialogue, I think, in the whole movie.

:

01:07:04,726 --> 01:07:07,136

She just kind of like, panda mimes,

:

01:07:07,446 --> 01:07:09,796

and you see her kind of like,

oh, and whispers and stuff

:

01:07:09,846 --> 01:07:10,366

Robin: You're right.

:

01:07:10,406 --> 01:07:12,726

I think at one point she

said Halle Berry's name.

:

01:07:14,056 --> 01:07:14,656

Zabe: I think she,

:

01:07:15,056 --> 01:07:15,566

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:07:15,576 --> 01:07:18,016

Robin: the blonde lady at the

very beginning that's like,

:

01:07:18,426 --> 01:07:19,316

Friends with Halle Berry.

:

01:07:19,796 --> 01:07:20,026

Yeah.

:

01:07:20,056 --> 01:07:20,686

Katie: I got them.

:

01:07:21,746 --> 01:07:22,126

Robin: Anyway.

:

01:07:22,156 --> 01:07:22,306

Zabe: guys,

:

01:07:22,356 --> 01:07:25,646

Are you guys talking about

Elaine, Joan Wilder's sister from,

:

01:07:26,046 --> 01:07:26,936

from Banshee the Stone?

:

01:07:27,416 --> 01:07:28,146

Katie: That's her.

:

01:07:28,651 --> 01:07:29,491

Zabe: That's her

:

01:07:29,496 --> 01:07:30,076

Katie: the

:

01:07:30,176 --> 01:07:30,726

Robin: Wow.

:

01:07:30,836 --> 01:07:31,126

Katie: name?

:

01:07:31,126 --> 01:07:32,816

The one that died pretty quickly.

:

01:07:33,046 --> 01:07:34,636

Robin: I don't remember.

:

01:07:34,636 --> 01:07:37,126

I just remember they kept showing

her big engagement ring and I

:

01:07:37,126 --> 01:07:38,426

was like, Ooh, she's doomed.

:

01:07:38,636 --> 01:07:39,986

Katie: you, is that who it is?

:

01:07:40,101 --> 01:07:44,161

Zabe: Yeah, that's, I don't, I don't

know the actor's name, but I know

:

01:07:44,161 --> 01:07:46,261

her as Elaine Joan Walder's sister.

:

01:07:46,271 --> 01:07:48,431

She never made it to

Cartagena in this movie.

:

01:07:48,651 --> 01:07:49,981

Katie: The Joan Wilder.

:

01:07:51,861 --> 01:07:51,941

I

:

01:07:52,111 --> 01:07:52,931

Zabe: I read your books.

:

01:07:53,201 --> 01:07:53,331

I

:

01:07:53,331 --> 01:07:54,161

read all your books.

:

01:07:54,171 --> 01:07:55,381

Katie: that movie so much.

:

01:07:55,381 --> 01:07:55,871

Oh my God.

:

01:07:56,381 --> 01:08:00,521

Last person, I was going to ask you if

you guys recognized the air marshal,

:

01:08:01,416 --> 01:08:01,846

Robin: You know,

:

01:08:01,941 --> 01:08:02,561

Katie: who played him.

:

01:08:03,186 --> 01:08:03,626

Zabe: Oh yeah.

:

01:08:03,786 --> 01:08:06,566

Robin: super familiar, but I couldn't tell

you something else he's been in, though.

:

01:08:08,586 --> 01:08:12,456

Zabe: Robin, I don't want you to

jump to any conclusions about what

:

01:08:12,456 --> 01:08:14,076

other movie he might've been in.

:

01:08:15,276 --> 01:08:15,746

Robin: Jump

:

01:08:16,026 --> 01:08:16,345

Zabe: Cricket.

:

01:08:16,496 --> 01:08:16,826

Cricket.

:

01:08:17,211 --> 01:08:17,751

Katie: Oh, maybe.

:

01:08:17,751 --> 01:08:18,501

Have

:

01:08:18,676 --> 01:08:18,805

Robin: no.

:

01:08:18,805 --> 01:08:19,281

No.

:

01:08:19,461 --> 01:08:19,881

Katie: Space?

:

01:08:20,781 --> 01:08:24,430

Robin: Oh, I haven't seen Office Space,

but that might be what, that might be

:

01:08:24,430 --> 01:08:26,621

what my boyfriend recognized him from.

:

01:08:27,111 --> 01:08:29,151

Katie: The actor's name is Richard Rael.

:

01:08:29,651 --> 01:08:36,401

He also plays Donal Logue's dad in

the TV series grounded for life.

:

01:08:37,970 --> 01:08:39,020

Robin: Oh, okay.

:

01:08:39,060 --> 01:08:41,701

That's not one I watched

religiously, but I do, I do

:

01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,881

absolutely recognize him from that.

:

01:08:43,931 --> 01:08:47,041

Katie: that's him Jerry Goldsmith

did the music very very very

:

01:08:47,041 --> 01:08:48,491

very famous Jerry Goldsmith.

:

01:08:48,541 --> 01:08:49,661

What did you guys think of the music?

:

01:08:51,886 --> 01:08:53,406

Zabe: So I have got thoughts.

:

01:08:53,816 --> 01:08:54,906

I love Jerry Goldsmith.

:

01:08:55,106 --> 01:08:57,185

He, that guy's a legend in this business.

:

01:08:57,461 --> 01:08:57,741

Katie: Oh

:

01:08:57,836 --> 01:09:02,566

Zabe: But I tell ya, when I'm watching

the end of this movie and Kurt

:

01:09:02,566 --> 01:09:05,850

Russell's trying to land this plane,

It almost looked like a shot for

:

01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:08,991

shot remake of:

:

01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,871

Like it's coming in, like the, the

wheels break, there's a fire on it.

:

01:09:14,060 --> 01:09:16,631

It's worse out of control

and like nose dies down.

:

01:09:16,661 --> 01:09:20,451

Like it's but the music sounded

exactly like that scene too, to me.

:

01:09:21,026 --> 01:09:24,486

And you know, I leaned over my wife

and said, as it's crashing down, I'm

:

01:09:24,486 --> 01:09:26,536

like we just want to say, good luck.

:

01:09:26,586 --> 01:09:27,486

We're all counting on you.

:

01:09:28,145 --> 01:09:30,786

And it's it's almost felt like a parody

:

01:09:31,086 --> 01:09:31,685

at that point.

:

01:09:31,871 --> 01:09:35,501

Katie: it's funny because it's

like the genre has just continued

:

01:09:35,501 --> 01:09:40,331

to create more of the same movie

that Airplane already parodied.

:

01:09:40,496 --> 01:09:40,866

Zabe: Right.

:

01:09:40,991 --> 01:09:41,060

Katie: you mean?

:

01:09:41,081 --> 01:09:41,401

Yeah.

:

01:09:41,886 --> 01:09:42,176

Zabe: Right.

:

01:09:42,176 --> 01:09:42,356

Right.

:

01:09:42,356 --> 01:09:42,595

Right.

:

01:09:42,786 --> 01:09:46,316

But I couldn't help, but notice

like it almost looked shot for shot.

:

01:09:47,921 --> 01:09:51,181

Robin: I'll say, I was, I was

hoping for a more like, I guess,

:

01:09:51,261 --> 01:09:54,051

I was hoping for the soundtrack to

make more of an impression on me

:

01:09:54,311 --> 01:09:55,001

Katie: Same.

:

01:09:55,121 --> 01:09:56,211

Robin: that it was Jerry Goldsmith.

:

01:09:56,421 --> 01:09:59,011

There was one moment, though,

that I wanted to point out that

:

01:09:59,081 --> 01:10:04,326

had me kind of giggling was when

I The guy says executive decision

:

01:10:04,626 --> 01:10:05,056

Zabe: Yeah.

:

01:10:05,056 --> 01:10:05,326

Robin: end.

:

01:10:05,766 --> 01:10:08,606

There's a little bit of a

trumpet background thing

:

01:10:08,606 --> 01:10:09,896

that he added to the melody.

:

01:10:09,916 --> 01:10:11,806

And I just, it totally got me.

:

01:10:11,806 --> 01:10:12,446

I was dying.

:

01:10:13,021 --> 01:10:16,191

Katie: Oh, I missed that, but I definitely

caught, oh, the name of the movie in

:

01:10:16,216 --> 01:10:16,756

Robin: Oh yeah,

:

01:10:16,991 --> 01:10:17,411

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:10:18,831 --> 01:10:22,491

Did you guys know that this movie

got a nomination for an award?

:

01:10:24,216 --> 01:10:24,396

Robin: For

:

01:10:24,696 --> 01:10:25,896

Zabe: I don't think it was that one.

:

01:10:26,396 --> 01:10:28,646

Katie: Razzie, a Razzie,

:

01:10:28,861 --> 01:10:29,411

Robin: Oh, gotcha.

:

01:10:31,146 --> 01:10:34,776

Katie: Sigal, we're supporting

actor, which is ironic because I

:

01:10:34,776 --> 01:10:36,686

actually thought he wasn't that bad.

:

01:10:37,071 --> 01:10:40,081

Robin: Because we were just saying, oh,

as they go, you know, not the worst.

:

01:10:40,141 --> 01:10:40,911

That's so funny.

:

01:10:41,210 --> 01:10:45,416

Katie: 55 million is they spent on it.

:

01:10:48,436 --> 01:10:48,836

gross.

:

01:10:49,046 --> 01:10:51,486

What were you, do you

have thoughts about the

:

01:10:51,906 --> 01:10:58,996

Zabe: I have lots of thoughts about the

money this movie made, or rather the

:

01:10:59,006 --> 01:11:02,136

money that the distribution company lost.

:

01:11:02,576 --> 01:11:03,856

Katie: Oh really?

:

01:11:04,126 --> 01:11:04,696

Zabe: Oh, yeah.

:

01:11:05,136 --> 01:11:09,176

Okay, so this movie has a very

interesting distribution deal between

:

01:11:09,176 --> 01:11:10,856

Paramount and Warner Brothers.

:

01:11:11,426 --> 01:11:15,976

It was originally a Paramount movie

but they, they worked a deal to swap

:

01:11:15,976 --> 01:11:20,706

the rights For executive decision to

go to another movie because they had

:

01:11:20,706 --> 01:11:23,066

a similar budget 55 billion bucks.

:

01:11:24,266 --> 01:11:28,576

So, Paramount switched the

rights for executive decision

:

01:11:28,896 --> 01:11:30,786

for the rights for Forrest Gump.

:

01:11:31,966 --> 01:11:32,316

So

:

01:11:32,436 --> 01:11:32,476

Katie: I

:

01:11:32,686 --> 01:11:37,446

Zabe: how'd that work out well for you

Warner brothers, Gump went on to make

:

01:11:37,446 --> 01:11:43,096

about 680 million and executive decision

barely made back their production budget.

:

01:11:43,956 --> 01:11:44,366

So,

:

01:11:44,646 --> 01:11:45,856

Katie: was what Forrest Gump

:

01:11:45,996 --> 01:11:46,446

made.

:

01:11:47,096 --> 01:11:48,406

Zabe: I think that's just domestically.

:

01:11:48,846 --> 01:11:49,946

Katie: Wow.

:

01:11:50,036 --> 01:11:51,356

Zabe: but I think it

was just domestically.

:

01:11:51,386 --> 01:11:51,956

Katie: Okay.

:

01:11:52,626 --> 01:11:57,236

Zabe: Also Gump also went on to win

six academy awards and the soundtrack

:

01:11:57,336 --> 01:12:02,216

alone for Forrest Gump made more

money than executive decision did.

:

01:12:03,396 --> 01:12:08,946

Katie: That I, I can picture

my double disc CD for

:

01:12:09,096 --> 01:12:09,406

Zabe: Same.

:

01:12:09,676 --> 01:12:09,806

Katie: that

:

01:12:09,806 --> 01:12:10,326

I had.

:

01:12:10,556 --> 01:12:10,996

Yeah.

:

01:12:11,136 --> 01:12:11,526

Zabe: it too.

:

01:12:12,536 --> 01:12:12,896

Katie: That's it.

:

01:12:12,936 --> 01:12:13,616

Oh, you know what?

:

01:12:13,616 --> 01:12:15,196

I think I was reading

something about that.

:

01:12:15,206 --> 01:12:20,521

They, the reason for the swap was like,

Something to do with Rain Man, didn't

:

01:12:20,521 --> 01:12:26,371

want to be perceived as having two big

movies with someone with challenges,

:

01:12:26,861 --> 01:12:27,201

Robin: Wow.

:

01:12:27,201 --> 01:12:28,641

Ah,

:

01:12:28,966 --> 01:12:30,096

Zabe: yeah, I get it.

:

01:12:30,301 --> 01:12:30,561

Katie: time.

:

01:12:30,571 --> 01:12:31,421

When was Rain Man?

:

01:12:31,421 --> 01:12:32,781

I thought that was way earlier though.

:

01:12:33,306 --> 01:12:37,326

Zabe: I think Rayman, I

thought Rayman was 80, 98,

:

01:12:38,046 --> 01:12:38,676

but I could be wrong.

:

01:12:39,471 --> 01:12:41,581

Katie: I was thinking it was like, 89.

:

01:12:41,661 --> 01:12:42,251

I don't know.

:

01:12:42,306 --> 01:12:42,526

Zabe: Okay.

:

01:12:42,526 --> 01:12:43,056

It could be,

:

01:12:43,791 --> 01:12:44,341

Katie: Well,

:

01:12:44,366 --> 01:12:45,536

Zabe: only there was a device.

:

01:12:45,701 --> 01:12:46,121

Katie: only,

:

01:12:46,121 --> 01:12:46,241

I

:

01:12:46,371 --> 01:12:46,551

Zabe: the

:

01:12:47,111 --> 01:12:47,611

88,

:

01:12:47,941 --> 01:12:48,441

Katie: 88,

:

01:12:48,461 --> 01:12:48,881

Okay.

:

01:12:49,051 --> 01:12:49,651

Zabe::

:

01:12:49,761 --> 01:12:52,701

Katie: Cause this was unless, you

know, I feel like a lot of times

:

01:12:52,701 --> 01:12:57,881

movies, they talk about them for like

years before they actually get made.

:

01:12:57,881 --> 01:12:58,521

So maybe that,

:

01:12:58,651 --> 01:12:59,191

Robin: Yeah.

:

01:12:59,201 --> 01:12:59,401

Katie: to do

:

01:12:59,581 --> 01:13:02,021

Robin: Maybe they could have been

in production around the same time.

:

01:13:02,071 --> 01:13:02,431

I don't know.

:

01:13:02,519 --> 01:13:07,721

Katie: guys both seen this movie

before rewatching it for the show?

:

01:13:11,441 --> 01:13:12,861

Robin: It was my first time seeing it.

:

01:13:14,691 --> 01:13:17,521

Zabe: I was too busy watching

Forrest Gump back in the day

:

01:13:17,521 --> 01:13:18,631

to watch this in the theater.

:

01:13:18,631 --> 01:13:22,441

So I this was the first time for me as

well, which I'm kind of surprised that

:

01:13:22,441 --> 01:13:25,061

this movie passed me by because this

would have been the kind of movie that

:

01:13:25,061 --> 01:13:27,391

were, was up my alley mid nineties.

:

01:13:28,031 --> 01:13:28,351

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:13:28,451 --> 01:13:28,661

Zabe: I

:

01:13:28,671 --> 01:13:29,351

Katie: something

:

01:13:29,381 --> 01:13:29,521

Zabe: it.

:

01:13:29,851 --> 01:13:30,231

Yeah,

:

01:13:30,481 --> 01:13:31,811

but it has Stephen Segal in it.

:

01:13:31,851 --> 01:13:33,161

So why do I want to go and watch it?

:

01:13:33,211 --> 01:13:34,281

I know it's going to be garbage.

:

01:13:35,501 --> 01:13:35,661

Katie: But

:

01:13:35,661 --> 01:13:39,201

he, yeah, he did have a moment

where people didn't know about

:

01:13:39,211 --> 01:13:40,701

all of his behavioral issues.

:

01:13:40,701 --> 01:13:41,101

Right.

:

01:13:41,501 --> 01:13:44,281

Zabe: yeah, but he, he was a

:

01:13:44,581 --> 01:13:45,961

cancer to movies.

:

01:13:46,621 --> 01:13:51,181

Even then, in my opinion, like

he, he made dumb movies and this

:

01:13:51,181 --> 01:13:52,521

movie wasn't trying to be dumb.

:

01:13:52,951 --> 01:13:56,461

Like this movie was trying to be very

smart and it's trying to be a thriller.

:

01:13:56,511 --> 01:14:00,121

Almost like a diehard type movie,

you know, like something that's, they

:

01:14:00,121 --> 01:14:04,051

were shooting for the fences here or

swinging for the fences, rather they

:

01:14:04,051 --> 01:14:05,561

really wanted to have something here.

:

01:14:05,801 --> 01:14:07,721

And I don't know, we never

really talked about this.

:

01:14:08,181 --> 01:14:10,281

Do you guys like the movie?

:

01:14:11,886 --> 01:14:14,206

Robin: Oh, I mean, it

was a really fun watch.

:

01:14:14,916 --> 01:14:15,166

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:14:15,346 --> 01:14:15,386

Robin: I mean,

:

01:14:15,646 --> 01:14:15,986

Katie: feel

:

01:14:16,146 --> 01:14:21,376

that similar like It from a quality

perspective, it's not the thing.

:

01:14:21,376 --> 01:14:27,686

It's like, it is if you watch it

through the lens of this is what it is.

:

01:14:27,706 --> 01:14:33,826

It's just it's going to be a fun

action thriller plus like Kurtz in it.

:

01:14:33,876 --> 01:14:35,786

So I did have fun watching it.

:

01:14:35,816 --> 01:14:38,676

I do think it was far too long,

:

01:14:39,101 --> 01:14:39,621

Zabe: Oh yeah.

:

01:14:39,631 --> 01:14:40,251

A hundred percent.

:

01:14:40,866 --> 01:14:42,696

Katie: but I did enjoy it.

:

01:14:42,706 --> 01:14:44,036

Did you not enjoy it?

:

01:14:46,321 --> 01:14:47,771

Zabe: Robin, did you say

whether you liked it or not?

:

01:14:48,131 --> 01:14:48,891

You said, you're

:

01:14:49,026 --> 01:14:50,296

Robin: it was a fun watch, yeah.

:

01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:55,221

Zabe: sure this is the kind of movie

that you don't want to watch by yourself.

:

01:14:55,341 --> 01:14:55,791

I think.

:

01:14:56,331 --> 01:14:59,891

You kind of got to experience this

movie with somebody and either

:

01:14:59,901 --> 01:15:01,011

you're going to be on board with it.

:

01:15:01,021 --> 01:15:02,851

Like you said, you kind of

got to know what it's about

:

01:15:02,861 --> 01:15:04,291

and kind of just roll with it.

:

01:15:04,901 --> 01:15:08,371

And if everyone's in agreement,

we're And wants to have a good time

:

01:15:08,371 --> 01:15:09,961

together, then it can be great.

:

01:15:10,161 --> 01:15:12,371

But if you're also in the agreement

that you want to watch it and make

:

01:15:12,371 --> 01:15:13,941

fun of it, you can do that too.

:

01:15:13,941 --> 01:15:15,691

And,

:

01:15:15,896 --> 01:15:16,186

Katie: No,

:

01:15:16,291 --> 01:15:20,091

Zabe: kind of in that camp of you

know, looking at Steven Seagal's

:

01:15:20,121 --> 01:15:23,971

hair plugs and Making comments like,

nitpicking it a little bit, which is

:

01:15:23,971 --> 01:15:25,431

kind of fun to do with movies as well.

:

01:15:25,861 --> 01:15:28,141

Yeah, so I think this movie came.

:

01:15:28,146 --> 01:15:28,396

Katie: it.

:

01:15:28,696 --> 01:15:28,856

Let's

:

01:15:28,856 --> 01:15:29,276

nitpick

:

01:15:29,276 --> 01:15:29,626

it.

:

01:15:29,631 --> 01:15:30,291

Zabe: you know, I mean,

:

01:15:30,356 --> 01:15:30,646

Katie: nits.

:

01:15:31,411 --> 01:15:31,951

Zabe: here's the thing.

:

01:15:31,951 --> 01:15:36,511

People are going to tune into this episode

because they like this movie and they'll,

:

01:15:36,531 --> 01:15:39,741

they'll see all the different movies late

and I don't want to, I don't want to throw

:

01:15:39,741 --> 01:15:43,641

cold water on something that they like,

you know, so I'm kind of hesitant to say.

:

01:15:44,221 --> 01:15:47,601

Some of the things, how I feel of

this movie, because I don't want to

:

01:15:48,211 --> 01:15:49,541

knock something that people like.

:

01:15:49,541 --> 01:15:50,681

So what kind of jerk does that?

:

01:15:51,411 --> 01:15:53,371

But this movie wasn't very good.

:

01:15:54,896 --> 01:15:55,656

Katie: However,

:

01:15:57,051 --> 01:15:58,381

Zabe: This movie wasn't very good.

:

01:15:59,091 --> 01:15:59,401

Yeah,

:

01:15:59,456 --> 01:15:59,686

Robin: but I

:

01:15:59,686 --> 01:16:02,896

also it seems like the kind of movie

too, though, where the people who

:

01:16:02,896 --> 01:16:06,846

love it are also they love it because

of some of the nitpicky stuff.

:

01:16:06,906 --> 01:16:07,326

Like,

:

01:16:07,481 --> 01:16:07,931

Zabe: sure.

:

01:16:07,956 --> 01:16:08,366

Robin: because of,

:

01:16:08,466 --> 01:16:09,436

Katie: that they're aware

:

01:16:09,716 --> 01:16:13,836

Robin: yeah, yeah, and so I think, I

don't know, like especially for coming

:

01:16:13,836 --> 01:16:17,936

at it from a, oh, this was a fun to

watch thing, I'm like, that's okay.

:

01:16:18,186 --> 01:16:21,816

I, one of the things I kept saying

was like, can someone get Kurt

:

01:16:21,816 --> 01:16:23,006

Russell a change of clothes?

:

01:16:23,026 --> 01:16:25,306

Why is he still in the tux the whole time?

:

01:16:26,691 --> 01:16:26,891

Zabe: Yeah.

:

01:16:26,921 --> 01:16:28,991

They do a lot of weird things

like that in this movie.

:

01:16:29,486 --> 01:16:30,346

Robin: so late.

:

01:16:30,721 --> 01:16:31,381

Katie: yes.

:

01:16:31,866 --> 01:16:32,266

Robin: Anyway.

:

01:16:32,591 --> 01:16:32,801

Katie: him.

:

01:16:32,841 --> 01:16:33,211

I liked

:

01:16:33,211 --> 01:16:34,501

seeing him in the text, but I do have,

:

01:16:34,591 --> 01:16:35,181

Robin: For sure.

:

01:16:35,231 --> 01:16:35,801

Katie: a note.

:

01:16:36,351 --> 01:16:37,261

Well, okay.

:

01:16:37,651 --> 01:16:38,511

Kurt's handsome.

:

01:16:38,541 --> 01:16:41,051

And in this, he's already

start, he's getting some of the,

:

01:16:41,061 --> 01:16:42,071

his, he's known for his hair.

:

01:16:42,081 --> 01:16:42,641

He's got great hair.

:

01:16:42,641 --> 01:16:44,721

He's starting to get

some of the salt in it,

:

01:16:44,931 --> 01:16:45,411

Robin: Mm hmm.

:

01:16:45,531 --> 01:16:47,031

Katie: I was like, all

right, I'm digging it.

:

01:16:47,601 --> 01:16:51,681

He does at some point change into

a hoodie and slick back his hair,

:

01:16:51,991 --> 01:16:52,411

Robin: Yes!

:

01:16:52,411 --> 01:16:52,931

At the very end.

:

01:16:53,801 --> 01:16:54,571

That's right.

:

01:16:55,766 --> 01:17:01,306

Katie: Then he lands the plane, off the

plane, and now he's all of the sudden got

:

01:17:01,306 --> 01:17:03,946

perfect hair, and he's in his Toxicon!

:

01:17:04,121 --> 01:17:06,621

Robin: When you put the jacket

back on, I was losing my mind.

:

01:17:08,146 --> 01:17:10,316

Katie: I'm like, wait,

what, did he ch where, what?

:

01:17:10,626 --> 01:17:11,126

Okay.

:

01:17:11,376 --> 01:17:11,636

And his

:

01:17:11,721 --> 01:17:12,091

Zabe: He's,

:

01:17:12,961 --> 01:17:13,651

Robin: Incredible.

:

01:17:13,711 --> 01:17:17,291

Zabe: a, he's got a plan and

strategy to talk about hockey with

:

01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:18,741

Holly Berry at the end of this.

:

01:17:18,811 --> 01:17:20,050

So he's got to look sharp.

:

01:17:20,506 --> 01:17:20,666

Katie: Mm

:

01:17:20,891 --> 01:17:23,291

Robin: Oh, who also had

perfect makeup, by the way.

:

01:17:24,671 --> 01:17:25,331

Insane.

:

01:17:26,596 --> 01:17:30,056

Katie: She, yeah, her lipstick

never got smudged and all of this.

:

01:17:30,291 --> 01:17:32,621

Robin: She looked gorgeous

no matter what was happening.

:

01:17:32,691 --> 01:17:33,591

Oh yeah, for sure.

:

01:17:33,856 --> 01:17:34,536

Katie: She does.

:

01:17:35,086 --> 01:17:36,076

However,

:

01:17:36,521 --> 01:17:39,361

Zabe: It's stuff like that, though,

Katie, that, that bugged me about the

:

01:17:39,361 --> 01:17:44,561

movie because it seems so much like

they're checking boxes of what does

:

01:17:44,561 --> 01:17:46,311

a Hollywood movie need to be like,

:

01:17:46,601 --> 01:17:47,231

we got to have

:

01:17:47,396 --> 01:17:48,925

Katie: That

:

01:17:49,021 --> 01:17:54,581

Zabe: a romance in it, you know,

they got to have weird tension build

:

01:17:54,651 --> 01:17:56,901

up for no reason with no payoff.

:

01:17:57,716 --> 01:18:02,606

There was some of that in there and

a lot of us, we felt familiar as if

:

01:18:02,606 --> 01:18:07,466

they were borrowing from other movies,

you know, I mentioned die hard.

:

01:18:07,896 --> 01:18:11,606

There's a point in this movie with the,

the dude, I think it's John Leguizamo

:

01:18:12,056 --> 01:18:14,306

makes Kurt Russell take off his shoes.

:

01:18:15,216 --> 01:18:18,586

And they make a big deal like he smells

his socks or whatever they make some haha

:

01:18:18,586 --> 01:18:20,366

about that and And he goes through and

:

01:18:20,566 --> 01:18:21,186

Katie: I hated that.

:

01:18:21,196 --> 01:18:22,606

But I did read John.

:

01:18:22,846 --> 01:18:24,766

That was an ad lib by John.

:

01:18:25,356 --> 01:18:25,736

Zabe: Huh

:

01:18:26,131 --> 01:18:27,111

Katie: was not a fan.

:

01:18:27,161 --> 01:18:28,771

Like they got in an argument about it

:

01:18:29,616 --> 01:18:30,686

Robin: That is amazing.

:

01:18:30,686 --> 01:18:34,316

I like the line way more now, honestly.

:

01:18:34,411 --> 01:18:36,701

Katie: were a couple of jokes that

I'm like, ugh, but to your point

:

01:18:36,711 --> 01:18:39,401

about, this is a template, you

got to throw in some one liners.

:

01:18:39,616 --> 01:18:42,966

Zabe: Right, but but but why

so he takes off his shoes.

:

01:18:42,986 --> 01:18:45,396

He goes does his thing He comes

back puts his shoes back on like

:

01:18:45,856 --> 01:18:49,076

are we watching an episode of mr

Rogers neighborhood or why is he

:

01:18:49,331 --> 01:18:49,561

Katie: Well,

:

01:18:49,576 --> 01:18:49,866

Zabe: like

:

01:18:49,886 --> 01:18:52,446

he literally takes his shoes off

and puts on a sweater in this movie.

:

01:18:52,446 --> 01:18:52,986

This is mr.

:

01:18:52,986 --> 01:18:53,616

Rogers

:

01:18:54,911 --> 01:18:57,651

Katie: well, cause he's in a tux

and he's got the dress shoes.

:

01:18:57,781 --> 01:19:01,981

And was supposed to be like

all these, like the special

:

01:19:01,981 --> 01:19:05,211

ops guys, and then this clean.

:

01:19:06,386 --> 01:19:08,566

Guy literally in a tux.

:

01:19:09,391 --> 01:19:13,941

And he, you know, but, but he has to

get his hands dirty and through their

:

01:19:13,941 --> 01:19:17,411

experience together at the end of the

movie, they have respect for him again.

:

01:19:17,581 --> 01:19:18,111

It's a trope.

:

01:19:18,371 --> 01:19:21,291

It is a trophy movie for

sure, but it's the mid 90s.

:

01:19:21,311 --> 01:19:22,091

What do you want?

:

01:19:22,626 --> 01:19:22,976

Zabe: Yeah

:

01:19:23,186 --> 01:19:23,406

Robin: no, for

:

01:19:23,406 --> 01:19:24,856

sure, and I love a good trope.

:

01:19:25,066 --> 01:19:28,706

I guess I'm going, oh, okay, that

does give the whole Tuck situation

:

01:19:28,716 --> 01:19:31,946

a little bit more meaning than

I was, like, initially thinking.

:

01:19:32,856 --> 01:19:33,175

Anyway.

:

01:19:33,331 --> 01:19:36,701

Zabe: This movie was made during an

era in the 90s where every action

:

01:19:36,731 --> 01:19:40,521

film required a tension filled

moment where a star has to be like

:

01:19:40,741 --> 01:19:42,661

dangled on some sort of wire harness.

:

01:19:43,066 --> 01:19:45,136

That wire harness thing

bugs the crap out of me.

:

01:19:45,136 --> 01:19:46,616

It's like, it seems so pointless.

:

01:19:46,696 --> 01:19:49,916

It's like, well, it's, we can't

just have them crawl around

:

01:19:49,916 --> 01:19:51,576

in this fuselage or whatever.

:

01:19:51,671 --> 01:19:51,821

Katie: Well,

:

01:19:51,866 --> 01:19:52,546

Zabe: We got to make it,

:

01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:54,261

Katie: Cause it's cool.

:

01:19:54,751 --> 01:19:55,550

It's cool.

:

01:19:56,246 --> 01:19:57,436

Zabe: well, it's very cool.

:

01:19:57,446 --> 01:19:59,136

They're in 30, 000 feet.

:

01:19:59,196 --> 01:20:00,246

There's ice on the thing.

:

01:20:00,276 --> 01:20:02,006

That thing's not pressurized out there.

:

01:20:02,056 --> 01:20:04,566

I don't think that part of

the plane is pressurized.

:

01:20:04,616 --> 01:20:06,036

It certainly isn't insulated

:

01:20:06,826 --> 01:20:08,536

because they'd crashed

through the insulation.

:

01:20:09,091 --> 01:20:09,431

Katie: Wipe

:

01:20:09,606 --> 01:20:09,976

Zabe: Yeah.

:

01:20:10,391 --> 01:20:10,811

Katie: ice

:

01:20:10,986 --> 01:20:12,946

Zabe: They use, they use, Right.

:

01:20:13,026 --> 01:20:17,586

So in this movie, another thing that

drives me crazy is also during a time

:

01:20:17,586 --> 01:20:21,736

where every sort of electronic device had

to have a sound effect attached to it.

:

01:20:22,136 --> 01:20:25,856

Every keystroke had to have a clickety

clack and a boop, boop, and a sweep

:

01:20:25,856 --> 01:20:30,076

and a, like the radars making noise,

the hard drives making noise and the

:

01:20:30,146 --> 01:20:34,066

bomb, every everything's everything,

electronics making a ton of noise,

:

01:20:34,576 --> 01:20:37,856

except for the power tools that they

use to drill holes through metal

:

01:20:38,406 --> 01:20:40,316

and to sneak the cameras through.

:

01:20:40,326 --> 01:20:40,496

It's like,

:

01:20:41,425 --> 01:20:42,376

Come on, guys.

:

01:20:42,456 --> 01:20:43,096

Katie: Again,

:

01:20:43,221 --> 01:20:43,231

Zabe: a

:

01:20:43,346 --> 01:20:43,876

Katie: that was

:

01:20:43,991 --> 01:20:44,451

Zabe: movie, but,

:

01:20:45,046 --> 01:20:47,186

Katie: high tech in:

:

01:20:47,396 --> 01:20:48,656

They were trying to showcase that.

:

01:20:48,656 --> 01:20:48,876

Right.

:

01:20:49,621 --> 01:20:52,391

Zabe: okay, metal and a

drill bit still make noise.

:

01:20:52,391 --> 01:20:53,941

There's no silencer for metal.

:

01:20:54,146 --> 01:20:54,886

Katie: giving you a hard time.

:

01:20:54,886 --> 01:20:58,446

I'm like, again because I watched

it through the lens of I know

:

01:20:58,446 --> 01:21:02,036

what I'm getting myself into

with this movie, movies like that

:

01:21:02,036 --> 01:21:03,446

are still fun to poke fun at.

:

01:21:03,506 --> 01:21:03,626

Robin: The

:

01:21:03,651 --> 01:21:04,001

Katie: yeah

:

01:21:04,011 --> 01:21:04,481

I mean,

:

01:21:05,186 --> 01:21:06,106

Zabe: I enjoyed watching it.

:

01:21:06,126 --> 01:21:06,826

Don't get me wrong.

:

01:21:06,836 --> 01:21:08,286

I enjoyed watching the movie.

:

01:21:08,286 --> 01:21:09,306

I'm glad I watched it.

:

01:21:09,626 --> 01:21:12,966

And I had a big pucket of

popcorn and soda and I just

:

01:21:13,336 --> 01:21:14,506

enjoyed the hell out of it.

:

01:21:14,556 --> 01:21:15,556

So, I don't, I don't

:

01:21:15,701 --> 01:21:16,141

Katie: movie

:

01:21:16,341 --> 01:21:16,841

Zabe: Yeah

:

01:21:16,841 --> 01:21:19,321

Katie: but like for real

though, I'm actually curious.

:

01:21:19,601 --> 01:21:23,211

Robin, you might know because

you come from a military family.

:

01:21:25,311 --> 01:21:26,961

Is that a thing that can happen?

:

01:21:27,011 --> 01:21:28,411

This, this plane

:

01:21:28,686 --> 01:21:29,216

Robin: point, I have,

:

01:21:30,171 --> 01:21:34,021

Katie: docks to another plane and

then you can get on another plane?

:

01:21:34,031 --> 01:21:35,911

Like, is that a thing that can happen?

:

01:21:36,316 --> 01:21:39,386

Robin: I have never heard of that before,

and honestly, I wish I had asked my

:

01:21:39,386 --> 01:21:43,486

dad before I came up, because I don't

think he saw that part, I kept being

:

01:21:43,486 --> 01:21:47,925

like, okay, this is cool, but seems

insane, and I was literally thinking.

:

01:21:48,261 --> 01:21:51,481

If they do this without anyone

on the big plane noticing, then

:

01:21:51,481 --> 01:21:53,341

that's like extra, that's so lame.

:

01:21:53,341 --> 01:21:56,541

So I actually enjoyed that for

a minute it was really like

:

01:21:56,791 --> 01:21:58,341

messing with the big plane, right?

:

01:21:58,471 --> 01:21:59,001

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:21:59,371 --> 01:22:01,921

Robin: But one thing I did think

that was actually clever about

:

01:22:01,921 --> 01:22:06,321

it, my boyfriend pointed it out to

me, was the ship name was Remora,

:

01:22:06,721 --> 01:22:06,851

Katie: Mm

:

01:22:07,211 --> 01:22:10,461

Robin: which is a kind of fish that

latch, like they latch onto sharks.

:

01:22:10,651 --> 01:22:12,861

And then they like ride

around on the shark.

:

01:22:13,271 --> 01:22:14,141

Isn't that interesting?

:

01:22:14,321 --> 01:22:15,241

Yeah, isn't that interesting?

:

01:22:15,481 --> 01:22:16,811

Katie: I missed that.

:

01:22:16,841 --> 01:22:18,141

I'm too dumb.

:

01:22:18,211 --> 01:22:19,021

Robin: Oh, same.

:

01:22:19,021 --> 01:22:20,011

I would not have known.

:

01:22:20,011 --> 01:22:22,131

I was really glad he was

there to tell me, but,

:

01:22:22,871 --> 01:22:25,011

but I thought that was,

I thought that was cool.

:

01:22:25,011 --> 01:22:30,961

And honestly, Kyle, part of me really

wants it to be possible, but I have a

:

01:22:30,961 --> 01:22:35,031

feeling, no, like I remember at one point

the engineer said, Oh, we're just entering

:

01:22:35,031 --> 01:22:39,841

the jet stream, but then they go under

the plane and I'm like, shouldn't the

:

01:22:39,841 --> 01:22:41,800

jet stream be effing with them again?

:

01:22:41,861 --> 01:22:43,731

So I feel like there's

some stuff with that.

:

01:22:43,951 --> 01:22:46,641

Katie: go past something

and then there's like a

:

01:22:47,021 --> 01:22:48,291

Robin: A pocket maybe.

:

01:22:48,291 --> 01:22:49,081

Yeah.

:

01:22:49,261 --> 01:22:53,471

Katie: Kind of, and then, I mean, there

were a lot of things that I'm like, wow.

:

01:22:53,541 --> 01:23:00,501

I mean, it's the, action thriller in the

mid nineties was not grounded in reality.

:

01:23:00,561 --> 01:23:01,421

I feel like

:

01:23:01,571 --> 01:23:01,951

Robin: no.

:

01:23:01,951 --> 01:23:03,271

And nor should it be.

:

01:23:05,261 --> 01:23:08,311

Katie: also, how easy is it to

get explosives and guns on planes?

:

01:23:08,341 --> 01:23:09,300

Cause there were lots of

:

01:23:09,621 --> 01:23:12,271

Robin: Yeah, this was

definitely before:

:

01:23:12,381 --> 01:23:13,050

Good lord.

:

01:23:14,341 --> 01:23:16,866

Katie: but ironic that it's

like kind of the, yeah.

:

01:23:17,141 --> 01:23:18,001

Robin: I know!

:

01:23:18,001 --> 01:23:19,241

I kept thinking,

:

01:23:20,011 --> 01:23:24,841

I kept thinking like, oh man, like I know,

I know that that wasn't the first, you

:

01:23:24,841 --> 01:23:29,441

know, plane hijack that ever happened,

but it did make me think, oh god, this

:

01:23:29,441 --> 01:23:31,861

feels so foreshadowy and stressful

:

01:23:32,151 --> 01:23:33,721

just five years out, you know?

:

01:23:36,061 --> 01:23:38,661

Zabe: there's a lot of like problematic

:

01:23:39,081 --> 01:23:43,571

racial stereotyping and religious

stereotyping going on in this movie too.

:

01:23:43,631 --> 01:23:45,891

This movie definitely

could not be made today.

:

01:23:46,481 --> 01:23:47,300

As is,

:

01:23:47,571 --> 01:23:50,461

Robin: Especially with the white

British guy playing the main.

:

01:23:50,961 --> 01:23:55,851

My sister even mentioned something about

his foundation seems a little dark.

:

01:23:56,361 --> 01:23:57,151

You know what I mean?

:

01:23:57,151 --> 01:23:59,800

Things that, things that just

would not fly anymore today.

:

01:24:01,976 --> 01:24:06,726

Zabe: well, I put a button on, on

the ridiculous parts of this movie.

:

01:24:07,186 --> 01:24:11,686

I thought that the most ridiculous

part of all was when Kurt Russell is

:

01:24:11,946 --> 01:24:15,766

fighting with the sleeper guy, which,

which I thought, by the way, I think

:

01:24:15,766 --> 01:24:17,126

that was a fun twist because I was.

:

01:24:17,651 --> 01:24:21,171

Convinced it was that dude because

they they do throw a little switch

:

01:24:21,171 --> 01:24:22,281

in there and it's some guy with

:

01:24:22,501 --> 01:24:22,681

Katie: Good

:

01:24:22,681 --> 01:24:23,071

point.

:

01:24:23,161 --> 01:24:24,131

Zabe: apparently like

:

01:24:24,351 --> 01:24:24,501

Robin: that

:

01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:28,321

Zabe: don't really explain the diamonds,

but Brandon's got a fistful of diamonds

:

01:24:28,321 --> 01:24:31,321

and that's why he's freaking out But I

thought that was a good little twist and

:

01:24:31,321 --> 01:24:36,331

then they see the other guy when they're

fighting And they they shoot the sleeper

:

01:24:36,331 --> 01:24:40,451

dude a little bit But he's still alive

and then kurt russell falls down And he

:

01:24:40,451 --> 01:24:45,921

gets his leg caught in some sort of food

service cart or whatever it was You And he

:

01:24:45,921 --> 01:24:51,011

has to wrestle with the wounded sleeper on

the ground for control of the, the Kindle

:

01:24:51,021 --> 01:24:53,141

that is controlling the bomb or whatever.

:

01:24:53,161 --> 01:24:53,501

It's like,

:

01:24:53,701 --> 01:24:54,121

Katie: control.

:

01:24:54,121 --> 01:24:55,111

Bum detonator.

:

01:24:55,361 --> 01:24:56,221

Zabe: right, right.

:

01:24:56,251 --> 01:24:59,221

But it's like, he's doing it

on like a speaking spell or

:

01:24:59,221 --> 01:25:00,671

something like some sort of like

:

01:25:00,751 --> 01:25:00,951

Robin: like

:

01:25:00,961 --> 01:25:01,841

Zabe: antiquated.

:

01:25:02,961 --> 01:25:03,371

Yeah.

:

01:25:03,751 --> 01:25:09,061

It just, it seems it was like, well, this

hamfisted here building this tension.

:

01:25:09,111 --> 01:25:11,091

Oh, I can see him writing it.

:

01:25:11,121 --> 01:25:13,061

It's Oh, then he gets his

leg caught in a food cart.

:

01:25:13,081 --> 01:25:14,471

And then Oh, that's so scramble.

:

01:25:15,001 --> 01:25:15,691

Tension there is.

:

01:25:16,131 --> 01:25:16,431

Katie: There

:

01:25:16,586 --> 01:25:17,186

Zabe: seemed a little

:

01:25:17,281 --> 01:25:17,441

Robin: I'll

:

01:25:17,566 --> 01:25:17,976

Zabe: forced.

:

01:25:18,141 --> 01:25:20,201

Robin: I felt, I was

feeling the dungeon though.

:

01:25:20,201 --> 01:25:22,991

I was genuinely like, What

happens if he hits enter?

:

01:25:22,991 --> 01:25:25,891

I know this is crazy, but

what happens if he hits enter?

:

01:25:26,266 --> 01:25:28,576

Zabe: But they do that crazy

zoom to the enter button.

:

01:25:28,586 --> 01:25:29,636

You know, what happened?

:

01:25:29,671 --> 01:25:30,550

Robin: it's so close.

:

01:25:31,256 --> 01:25:33,876

Zabe: Robin, I can tell you what

happens when he pushes the enter button.

:

01:25:34,116 --> 01:25:36,056

There will be a computer sound effect up.

:

01:25:36,946 --> 01:25:39,236

Because they can't help

themselves, but make sound effects

:

01:25:39,236 --> 01:25:40,576

for every electronic device.

:

01:25:41,271 --> 01:25:42,181

Robin: You're right, you're right.

:

01:25:43,491 --> 01:25:44,751

Katie: There was a tense.

:

01:25:45,456 --> 01:25:49,386

Moment, like every 10 minutes,

but it was like almost too many.

:

01:25:49,386 --> 01:25:50,376

Like it was good.

:

01:25:50,376 --> 01:25:54,296

I was like, dang, like even the, when

the co pilot goes down to check out

:

01:25:54,296 --> 01:25:58,496

what's going on, when Halle Berry

answers, there's just like so many

:

01:25:58,506 --> 01:26:05,046

points where you do feel the tension,

which is good, but then by the time

:

01:26:05,046 --> 01:26:08,986

that the movie is supposed to end, I'm

like, dear God, there's yet another

:

01:26:09,331 --> 01:26:09,550

Robin: Oh.

:

01:26:10,411 --> 01:26:10,791

Zabe: Yeah,

:

01:26:10,921 --> 01:26:13,531

Robin: they're landing the plane,

I was, I was back to kind of

:

01:26:13,541 --> 01:26:17,181

laughing again, because I was

like, Oh, this is, this is wild.

:

01:26:17,986 --> 01:26:18,286

Katie: how

:

01:26:18,481 --> 01:26:19,121

Robin: at the manual.

:

01:26:19,491 --> 01:26:20,341

This is amazing.

:

01:26:21,211 --> 01:26:23,681

Katie: and then, then he

misses the yeah, there's,

:

01:26:23,961 --> 01:26:24,511

Robin: Gosh, yes.

:

01:26:24,601 --> 01:26:27,731

Katie: many fake outs are there

of like, okay, we're safe now,

:

01:26:27,921 --> 01:26:28,711

Robin: You're right.

:

01:26:28,711 --> 01:26:29,281

You're right.

:

01:26:29,591 --> 01:26:32,161

Katie: I think that's, for me,

I was like, it was too many.

:

01:26:32,161 --> 01:26:36,631

I'm like, Jesus, but

I did feel the tension

:

01:26:37,371 --> 01:26:37,641

Robin: yeah.

:

01:26:38,641 --> 01:26:39,451

Katie: So there were, you know,

:

01:26:40,001 --> 01:26:42,300

Zabe: this movie needed

some judicious editing.

:

01:26:42,401 --> 01:26:43,261

100 percent

:

01:26:43,381 --> 01:26:43,881

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:26:44,641 --> 01:26:46,061

Zabe: a little factoid here.

:

01:26:46,071 --> 01:26:49,501

They I think one of the reasons why

it goes on so long or feels long

:

01:26:49,501 --> 01:26:54,481

asleep because there's a lot of

aircraft porn going on in this movie.

:

01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:55,181

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:26:55,241 --> 01:26:59,981

Zabe: fan of, of F14 Tomcats taken

off on from aircraft carriers,

:

01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:01,651

this movie's got you covered

:

01:27:01,931 --> 01:27:03,141

because there's plenty of it.

:

01:27:03,831 --> 01:27:09,271

And one fun little fact was the, the,

those jets were on loan from the Navy,

:

01:27:09,321 --> 01:27:09,491

Katie: Mm

:

01:27:09,751 --> 01:27:13,661

Zabe: and there were a squadron called

the Jolly Rogers, and this was like

:

01:27:13,661 --> 01:27:17,561

one of their, their final missions,

is something I read, and when I was

:

01:27:17,561 --> 01:27:20,961

watching it, I was thinking like, wow,

the, the models that they used for

:

01:27:20,961 --> 01:27:25,251

this movie, they look really good,

like, I really believe that those are

:

01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,881

fighter jets escorting this plane.

:

01:27:28,286 --> 01:27:29,816

And then I read more

about him, like, oh, wait,

:

01:27:30,566 --> 01:27:31,425

because they really were,

:

01:27:31,516 --> 01:27:32,306

Katie: Yeah, that's

:

01:27:32,306 --> 01:27:32,876

Zabe: they really,

:

01:27:33,476 --> 01:27:33,906

yeah.

:

01:27:33,925 --> 01:27:36,326

So, yeah, they really went all out.

:

01:27:36,336 --> 01:27:39,876

And like I said, their hearts were in

the right place with this movie and they

:

01:27:39,876 --> 01:27:41,586

really wanted to make something special.

:

01:27:41,626 --> 01:27:45,921

And some of the actors literally gave

their, their body up for this movie.

:

01:27:46,011 --> 01:27:51,191

For this movie and you can't, you can't

throw too many rocks at that because

:

01:27:51,191 --> 01:27:54,861

people really tried their best and

people put a lot of work into this movie.

:

01:27:55,461 --> 01:27:58,661

Marla Maples wasn't one of them

and neither was Steven Seagal.

:

01:27:58,821 --> 01:28:02,991

However, those who did put a lot of

work into it, like my hats off to you.

:

01:28:03,046 --> 01:28:06,336

The movie was successful in, in

parts, but there was, there was

:

01:28:06,336 --> 01:28:11,596

parts of the movie that really were

unsuccessful and, and weighed the

:

01:28:11,596 --> 01:28:13,636

movie down as a whole, in my opinion.

:

01:28:13,946 --> 01:28:15,276

Although I'm glad I watched it.

:

01:28:15,596 --> 01:28:17,896

I'm glad I only rented it

and didn't have to buy it.

:

01:28:18,456 --> 01:28:21,526

And cause I don't, I don't think I'd

watch it again unless someone said,

:

01:28:21,536 --> 01:28:22,476

Hey, I've never seen this movie.

:

01:28:22,486 --> 01:28:23,166

Are you interested?

:

01:28:23,506 --> 01:28:25,936

And we wanted to share a bucket

of popcorn and, and have a

:

01:28:25,936 --> 01:28:27,476

good time talking about it.

:

01:28:27,486 --> 01:28:30,696

So if that's you listening out

there and you've never seen it.

:

01:28:31,536 --> 01:28:34,586

Then know what you're getting

into and, and, and check it out.

:

01:28:34,596 --> 01:28:36,436

You know, you, you might

like it more than I did.

:

01:28:36,786 --> 01:28:37,976

And, and that's good too.

:

01:28:37,976 --> 01:28:38,326

A

:

01:28:38,925 --> 01:28:40,236

Katie: I love those.

:

01:28:40,316 --> 01:28:43,086

As we're nearing the close,

those are some great thoughts.

:

01:28:43,416 --> 01:28:44,686

A couple of bits of trivia.

:

01:28:45,366 --> 01:28:48,256

Did you, are you guys aware that

Kurt Russell actually in real

:

01:28:48,256 --> 01:28:49,566

life does have a pilot's license?

:

01:28:50,456 --> 01:28:51,246

Zabe: He has several.

:

01:28:51,451 --> 01:28:51,911

Robin: I knew that.

:

01:28:52,311 --> 01:28:53,001

That's cool.

:

01:28:53,876 --> 01:28:56,166

Katie: Both he and Patrick,

they share that too.

:

01:28:56,216 --> 01:28:56,566

They're both

:

01:28:56,601 --> 01:28:57,291

Robin: That's awesome.

:

01:28:57,396 --> 01:28:57,786

Katie: license.

:

01:28:57,886 --> 01:28:58,196

Yeah.

:

01:28:58,886 --> 01:29:03,806

And so Halle Berry did not want to

do this movie and I, there wasn't

:

01:29:03,806 --> 01:29:05,666

anything spectacular about her role.

:

01:29:05,666 --> 01:29:08,786

I don't know, like she

was fine and I like her.

:

01:29:09,166 --> 01:29:12,486

But I guess this was her first

million dollar payday they gave her.

:

01:29:13,236 --> 01:29:13,696

So she changed.

:

01:29:13,851 --> 01:29:14,181

Robin: Good for her.

:

01:29:14,456 --> 01:29:16,496

Katie: yeah, I'll do I'll do

that for a million dollars.

:

01:29:16,526 --> 01:29:19,925

And then of course the guy

gets the girl in the end.

:

01:29:20,416 --> 01:29:25,336

So when he asks her when they're done,

when this whole ordeal is finally over,

:

01:29:25,666 --> 01:29:30,626

David Grant, AKA Kurt Russell asks her

if she likes hockey, because at the

:

01:29:30,626 --> 01:29:34,026

beginning of the movie, we see him asking

a woman, the saint, like he's trying

:

01:29:34,026 --> 01:29:36,856

to pick up a woman and she says hockey.

:

01:29:37,246 --> 01:29:39,106

No, I only like baseball.

:

01:29:39,456 --> 01:29:43,806

Well, at the time she was married

to the then Atlanta Braves

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01:29:43,856 --> 01:29:45,546

outfielder, David Justice.

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01:29:45,896 --> 01:29:47,418

So it's a little nod, a little,

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01:29:47,531 --> 01:29:48,591

Robin: Oh, that's so cute.

:

01:29:48,731 --> 01:29:49,431

That's really cute.

:

01:29:51,236 --> 01:29:56,536

Zabe: I think the most fake part of this

movie has apart from Steven Scull's hair.

:

01:29:56,936 --> 01:30:00,746

The other most fake part of

this movie is that Kurt Russell

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01:30:00,746 --> 01:30:01,806

would go for Halle Berry.

:

01:30:02,216 --> 01:30:02,836

I'm sorry.

:

01:30:03,306 --> 01:30:05,425

Kurt Russell's way too good.

:

01:30:05,766 --> 01:30:06,766

For Halle Berry.

:

01:30:07,206 --> 01:30:09,175

I'm just calling it as it is right now.

:

01:30:09,236 --> 01:30:09,656

Oh yeah.

:

01:30:09,736 --> 01:30:10,116

Oh yeah.

:

01:30:10,116 --> 01:30:10,586

Shake your head.

:

01:30:10,586 --> 01:30:11,356

It'd be all you want.

:

01:30:12,721 --> 01:30:13,391

Robin: This is wild.

:

01:30:13,401 --> 01:30:14,631

This is a wild take, Saif.

:

01:30:14,826 --> 01:30:14,946

Katie: is,

:

01:30:15,226 --> 01:30:15,626

Zabe: It's a

:

01:30:15,706 --> 01:30:19,956

Katie: is only because most

men drool over Halle Berry.

:

01:30:22,101 --> 01:30:24,231

Robin: Oh, I mean, come on.

:

01:30:24,396 --> 01:30:25,586

Zabe: no, not even a little bit.

:

01:30:25,756 --> 01:30:27,566

She she's okay.

:

01:30:27,966 --> 01:30:30,276

This isn't the let's make

fun of Halle Berry podcast.

:

01:30:30,306 --> 01:30:31,446

So I'll, I'll, I'll keep my.

:

01:30:31,781 --> 01:30:32,800

Feelings to myself, but

:

01:30:33,266 --> 01:30:33,486

Katie: Well,

:

01:30:33,486 --> 01:30:34,116

no, I can't,

:

01:30:34,651 --> 01:30:35,141

Zabe: guys,

:

01:30:35,306 --> 01:30:36,576

Katie: dude, let me tell you

:

01:30:36,576 --> 01:30:37,876

what, I hear, I hear you.

:

01:30:38,146 --> 01:30:41,466

You know, you know, I've actually not

gonna give you such a hard time, Zabe,

:

01:30:41,476 --> 01:30:46,016

because that's how I felt about the woman

who played Kurt's wife in Breakdown.

:

01:30:46,826 --> 01:30:50,425

was lovely, But I didn't

think she was pretty enough

:

01:30:51,076 --> 01:30:51,706

for

:

01:30:52,221 --> 01:30:52,661

Zabe: it varies.

:

01:30:52,661 --> 01:30:53,431

Lovely too.

:

01:30:53,461 --> 01:30:55,191

She's, she's a lovely woman.

:

01:30:55,531 --> 01:31:00,121

And, and like you said, like a lot of

dudes drool over her, but I'm like,

:

01:31:00,191 --> 01:31:02,391

not guys of caliber of Kurt Russell.

:

01:31:02,441 --> 01:31:02,931

Come on now.

:

01:31:04,366 --> 01:31:06,576

Katie: Hey, everybody's

got their own taste.

:

01:31:06,646 --> 01:31:07,606

So I

:

01:31:07,606 --> 01:31:09,096

I I'll, I'll stay out of that.

:

01:31:09,761 --> 01:31:11,711

Robin: in fairness, you

know, Kurt Russell's married

:

01:31:11,711 --> 01:31:14,641

to Goldie Hawn, and he also

:

01:31:14,691 --> 01:31:14,881

Zabe: yeah.

:

01:31:15,581 --> 01:31:18,021

Robin: the successful marriage

to being married to Goldie Hawn.

:

01:31:18,021 --> 01:31:18,921

So, who am I to

:

01:31:19,646 --> 01:31:22,626

Katie: well, technically I

think that the key to their

:

01:31:22,766 --> 01:31:24,126

relationship is that they're not

:

01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:25,351

Robin: Oh, they're not married.

:

01:31:25,351 --> 01:31:25,701

You're right.

:

01:31:25,741 --> 01:31:28,271

I literally, I always think

of them as a couple, but no.

:

01:31:28,311 --> 01:31:28,581

They, they're not married.

:

01:31:29,011 --> 01:31:30,891

Katie: I knew, I had a

feeling you knew that.

:

01:31:30,891 --> 01:31:33,011

Yeah, but yeah, they'd

just been together forever.

:

01:31:33,201 --> 01:31:36,321

They're like, we don't,

we don't need no of paper.

:

01:31:36,936 --> 01:31:37,026

Robin: I

:

01:31:37,201 --> 01:31:41,691

Zabe: Well, what I read was Kurt

Russell heard what happened to

:

01:31:41,691 --> 01:31:43,441

Nelson Mandela after a 30 year

:

01:31:43,911 --> 01:31:46,611

relationship and said I'm not

going to fall for that trap.

:

01:31:46,936 --> 01:31:49,416

Robin: You know, I don't want to go

to prison, so we'll just keep it.

:

01:31:51,091 --> 01:31:51,571

Katie: Mm hmm.

:

01:31:52,121 --> 01:31:54,811

Zabe: Just saying, when you can have

Goldie Hawn, you don't settle for

:

01:31:55,300 --> 01:31:56,001

Halle Berry.

:

01:31:56,076 --> 01:31:57,236

Katie: Very different generations.

:

01:31:57,236 --> 01:31:59,486

They're hard to compare,

but I think I know.

:

01:32:00,096 --> 01:32:01,006

The sentiment.

:

01:32:01,296 --> 01:32:01,736

Mm hmm.

:

01:32:02,246 --> 01:32:05,056

Well, Zabe, you had some

really great closing thoughts.

:

01:32:05,416 --> 01:32:08,316

Robin, do you have any final

thoughts before we wrap up?

:

01:32:08,816 --> 01:32:13,056

Robin: Just that it was, I mean,

I was excited to hear it was a

:

01:32:13,056 --> 01:32:17,156

Kurt Russell starring action movie

from the, you know, 90s and 80s.

:

01:32:17,286 --> 01:32:21,616

And discovering the podcast was a

huge amount of fun and I feel like

:

01:32:21,616 --> 01:32:24,316

I have this whole list of more

movies like this to check out.

:

01:32:24,816 --> 01:32:27,986

Yeah, I got to say, you know, I

wouldn't give it an Oscar myself,

:

01:32:28,016 --> 01:32:31,116

but I I did really enjoy it.

:

01:32:31,116 --> 01:32:31,466

So,

:

01:32:32,981 --> 01:32:36,021

Katie: Well, thank you guys so,

so, so, so much for joining me.

:

01:32:36,021 --> 01:32:40,401

I am having a blast with you guys, so

I hope that you feel the same, but you

:

01:32:40,401 --> 01:32:43,001

must remind us where we can find you.

:

01:32:43,496 --> 01:32:44,196

And your show.

:

01:32:45,146 --> 01:32:47,726

Robin: Find us at whowillsavegenx.

:

01:32:47,756 --> 01:32:48,276

com.

:

01:32:48,816 --> 01:32:49,266

website.

:

01:32:49,266 --> 01:32:49,706

It's going to be the

:

01:32:49,716 --> 01:32:50,876

best way to get ahold of us.

:

01:32:50,876 --> 01:32:53,196

You can find any of our episodes there.

:

01:32:53,606 --> 01:32:56,516

You can also find them anywhere

that you, you know, we'll

:

01:32:56,516 --> 01:32:58,006

find your usual podcasting.

:

01:32:58,016 --> 01:33:01,536

We're on Spotify and the Apple

app and all of that stuff.

:

01:33:01,806 --> 01:33:05,396

And then on our Instagram, we're

at who will save Gen X, right?

:

01:33:05,396 --> 01:33:05,786

Save.

:

01:33:06,336 --> 01:33:06,716

Yeah,

:

01:33:06,961 --> 01:33:08,321

Zabe: Instagram's for you millennials.

:

01:33:08,586 --> 01:33:08,846

Robin: that's

:

01:33:09,001 --> 01:33:10,831

Zabe: Us Gen Xers, we stick to Facebook.

:

01:33:10,876 --> 01:33:11,076

Robin: who

:

01:33:11,136 --> 01:33:12,066

Zabe: And my space,

:

01:33:12,376 --> 01:33:13,756

Robin: but a lot of our

:

01:33:15,346 --> 01:33:15,956

exactly

:

01:33:16,061 --> 01:33:16,611

Katie: space.

:

01:33:18,216 --> 01:33:19,616

Robin: my face, come on.

:

01:33:19,771 --> 01:33:22,701

Katie: will have links to

their stuff in the show notes.

:

01:33:23,111 --> 01:33:24,781

So fret.

:

01:33:25,786 --> 01:33:30,256

Zabe: Katie, I would like to take this

opportunity to totally put you on the

:

01:33:30,256 --> 01:33:36,586

spot and say, will you please come on

our podcast and be a guest on our show?

:

01:33:36,936 --> 01:33:41,616

And we can introduce you to our listeners

and and have some fun on, on our

:

01:33:41,896 --> 01:33:42,276

platform.

:

01:33:42,621 --> 01:33:42,791

Katie: I

:

01:33:42,791 --> 01:33:43,831

would love to.

:

01:33:43,841 --> 01:33:45,691

Thank you so much.

:

01:33:46,050 --> 01:33:46,651

Actually.

:

01:33:47,671 --> 01:33:52,211

my final thought on this movie, aside

from the fact that I had no problem

:

01:33:52,351 --> 01:33:54,731

watching Kurt for 2 hours per use.

:

01:33:55,226 --> 01:33:57,486

Zabe: She touched her hair when

she said that ladies and gentlemen,

:

01:33:58,461 --> 01:33:59,201

Katie: I'm like, oh, Kurt.

:

01:33:59,601 --> 01:34:05,651

But think why we have some of the

feelings about it being like, following

:

01:34:05,651 --> 01:34:13,001

this formula is that not only was this

a staple of the time, but there are.

:

01:34:14,126 --> 01:34:18,776

Kurt specifically at this

time, all of his movies I was

:

01:34:18,776 --> 01:34:20,936

conflating it with this breakdown.

:

01:34:21,366 --> 01:34:24,326

There's a few other suspense

thrillers that he has and they

:

01:34:24,346 --> 01:34:27,046

all have orange in the cover art.

:

01:34:27,856 --> 01:34:33,141

So they all sort of in my brain,

of, Came to and like escape from L.

:

01:34:33,141 --> 01:34:33,371

A.

:

01:34:33,380 --> 01:34:34,421

Has orange.

:

01:34:34,811 --> 01:34:39,231

And then Patrick Swayze has a

couple orange ones to dog and all

:

01:34:39,231 --> 01:34:40,651

from the mid to late nineties.

:

01:34:41,351 --> 01:34:45,191

It's I don't know what the deal was with

orange and thrillers in the mid nineties.

:

01:34:45,826 --> 01:34:49,716

Zabe: this was during Kurt's

orange period, as he refers

:

01:34:49,716 --> 01:34:51,255

to it in his autobiography.

:

01:34:51,591 --> 01:34:52,001

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:34:53,156 --> 01:34:58,806

Robin: Oh man, it's like you, must've

been some marketing chart that was like,

:

01:34:58,806 --> 01:35:00,576

Oh, if we put orange in the action movie,

:

01:35:01,471 --> 01:35:01,671

Katie: it's

:

01:35:01,835 --> 01:35:02,856

Zabe: that's 100 percent what it is.

:

01:35:03,156 --> 01:35:03,386

Robin: Yeah.

:

01:35:03,466 --> 01:35:07,366

Zabe: You see, you see, trends

in that, like in the early:

:

01:35:07,376 --> 01:35:11,005

they had kind of a red, white

and blue sort of motif, or, or

:

01:35:11,481 --> 01:35:12,031

Katie: Mm

:

01:35:12,041 --> 01:35:12,050

hmm.

:

01:35:12,096 --> 01:35:12,536

Zabe: about that?

:

01:35:12,596 --> 01:35:14,686

Like all the Star Wars films

have this like red, white and

:

01:35:14,686 --> 01:35:17,335

blue type of filter on them,

:

01:35:17,716 --> 01:35:19,196

on the images, on the posters.

:

01:35:19,255 --> 01:35:20,326

Katie: Yeah, there are trends Like,

:

01:35:20,326 --> 01:35:20,636

that.

:

01:35:20,646 --> 01:35:26,666

But yeah, well listeners am gonna have

to bring us back to current present day

:

01:35:26,666 --> 01:35:31,036

reality until the next episode because

I want no part of a hijacked plane

:

01:35:33,085 --> 01:35:39,796

Oh and go do all of the things

but until next time be kind rewind

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