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Episode 48

Dennis the Menace | S2E6

Today, we go back to 1993 to revisit Dennis the Menace, the classic comic strip troublemaker who comes to life with nonstop chaos.

I’m thrilled to introduce you to new guest, Amy Lewis of the Pop Culture Retrospective podcast, which she started 5 years ago as a way of dealing with the grief that came from tragically losing her sister. She lives in Midcoast Maine with her wife, Mandy and their two kids, Anderson and Kai. When she's not with her family or working on the podcast, she is either busy running her photography business, riding her mountain bike, or visiting a local brewery. Check out Amy's show:

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In this neighborhood,

this is an emergency.

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He's outta school for the summer

where people cherish peace and

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quiet, won't get a moment of peace.

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Hey, Mr.

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Wilson.

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Tell him I'm sick.

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I won't f for you, George.

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Hi, Mrs.

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Wilson.

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Is Mr.

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Wilson here?

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Why doesn't Mr.

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Wilson get up real, real, real early?

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Usually know what I do.

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My dad's asleep.

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He doesn't wanna be.

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Wilson, he feels warm.

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You need.

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Now John Hughes brings one of your all

time favorite cartoon characters to life.

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Smile

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for a whole new generation to discover.

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Don't embarrass me.

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You'll love Mr.

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Wilson some menace.

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Mrs.

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Wilson, the Mitchells.

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Margaret, we could bury you alive.

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I pound you a face.

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Joey Switchblade, Sam,

and a menace named Dennis.

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Kids are kids.

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You have to play by their rules.

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You have to roll with the punches.

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You have to expect unexpected.

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Dennis the Menace, that's me.

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America's classic kid in a classic

American comedy directed by Nick

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Castle, a John Hughes production.

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Katie: Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and this is Retro

Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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Now, today we're gonna go back , only to

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the classic comic strip troublemaker

who comes to life with nonstop chaos.

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I have a brand new guest that I'm

thrilled to introduce you all to Amy Lewis

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of the Pop Culture Retrospective podcast.

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It's a show that I could

not relate to more.

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It very much speaks to me, Amy.

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So welcome to Retro Made.

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Please tell us about you and your show.

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Amy Lewis: All right.

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Well, thank you so much for,

for having me on your show.

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I really appreciate it.

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You know, US women with, you know,

Ready voices really need to stick

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together and I think that you

certainly fall into that category.

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So, yes, so my show is the Pop

Culture retrospective podcast.

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Good job pronouncing that.

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Sometimes people have a hard time.

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It's a little bit of a, a tongue twister

at times, but, yeah, I started shows about

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five years ago now, which is just crazy.

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So in May it'll be five years.

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And I started the show about a

year after my sister unfortunately,

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away very tragically she had a

long, unfortunate battle with

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significant mental health issues.

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And so unfortunately that.

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Ultimately you know, played

out in an unfortunate way.

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But taking sort of that grief and trying

to take a spin on it, I decided to channel

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my grief into, kind of reminiscing about

my childhood and teenage years growing

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up with my sister because we loved

watching movies together, listening

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to music together, talking about the

that we had as kids, reciting lyrics

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to rainbow bright songs together.

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So I thought instead of sort of sitting

and feeling horrible about all this,

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which I mean of course does happen I

decided to just think about times in our

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lives that were really fun and hilarious

and, our generation is sort of notorious

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for just really amazing, pop culture

that is funny, diverse, corny, cheesy,

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profound, and everything in between.

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So, yeah, so I've been on this journey

now for almost five years and it's

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been absolutely incredible and I had

no idea what I was getting myself

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into when I started this podcast, but

doing it and loving it and getting

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to meet so many incredible people.

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And it's just pretty amazing that

something so meaningful and positive and

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special and unique has come about because

of this unfortunate situation in my life.

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So thank you for letting

me be on the show.

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Katie: Oh my gosh.

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You, you couldn't have said it any better.

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I just wanna kind of

reiterate that, you know.

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Well, first of all,

congratulations on five years.

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That's,

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that's a feat.

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Amy Lewis: it.

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Katie: And second of all, I think

you, it's, the show is really good,

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like the quality of your content

and you know, your sense of humor

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and

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Amy Lewis: dry.

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A little sarcastic.

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Katie: I love it.

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And, but, and you always honor

your sister with the shows.

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It's just a wonderful balance

of memories and like you said,

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you turning something really

unfortunate into something positive.

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So I highly recommend you all check

out pop culture retrospective with Amy.

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Amy Lewis: Oh, well, yes.

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Thank you so much.

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Yeah.

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Thank you for

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Katie: Yes.

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And before we before we get into the

time capsule of:

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share with you all a book that was

recommended by a listener, Jen h Thank

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you so much for your recommendation.

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I had to put it on my list at the

library and it's here, it is called,

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you Couldn't Ignore Me if you Tried

The Brat Pack, John Hughes and their

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Impact on a Generation by Susanna Gora.

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Amy Lewis: Oh,

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Katie: Here is the book now.

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I haven't started it yet.

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Amy Lewis: Yeah.

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Katie: But you know, I'm a big

fan of the Handy Andy Library

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Amy Lewis: Yes.

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Katie: so I'm gonna dive

into this, you guys.

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And so be on the lookout for

some tidbits in future episodes.

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Amy Lewis: Nice.

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Oh, that'll be yeah,

that'll be a great read.

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I'm not, I'm not familiar with

that book, so I bet that's

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that's gonna be a good one.

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Katie: I wasn't either.

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And this whole season is about John Hugs.

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So again, thank you Jen,

for your recommendation.

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All right, Amy, are you ready to

you know, spin this pop culture

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retro made time capsule wheel

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Amy Lewis: Yes, I am.

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I always like to say that.

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It'd be nice if I could remember.

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You know, what the Constitution

con consisted of, or, you know,

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president was number 10, but I

don't remember that kind of stuff.

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But I do re remember a lot

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of unnecessary stuff from my

childhood and adolescence.

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So we'll see if that proves to be correct.

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Katie: useless trivia is

my favorite kind of trivia.

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Alright, can you see the wheel, Amy?

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Amy Lewis: can, yes.

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I'm ex I've, I've listened to said wheel

on the show and so I'm really excited

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to actually see said wheel in person.

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Katie: All right.

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Hopefully hopefully we get some good ones.

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The first category we come

upon is prime time rewind.

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Okay.

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So.

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These are the top five

primetime TV shows from:

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Katie: I have some clues, but do you have

any guesses before I give you any clues?

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Amy Lewis: See.

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I.

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I think I would have some guesses.

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Yes.

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I'm trying to think.

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1993, I think Cheers had ended.

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So that would've been, you

know, very high up there.

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But I'm trying to think.

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1993 specifically, I'm gonna say Show.

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Katie: Nope.

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Amy Lewis: Oh, okay.

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Katie: I think that probably

ended just a little bit.

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Yeah, yeah,

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Yep.

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Seinfeld.

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Katie: Seinfeld is number three.

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Man, why am I drawing a blank?

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Katie: Suburban sarcasm.

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Amy Lewis: Suburban sarcasm.

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Katie: It's a, it's a, an auto city.

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It's set in an auto city

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Amy Lewis: Home improvement.

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Katie: home improvement,

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Amy Lewis: I was, I was,

I was like thinking:

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'cause I think sometimes there's

like, these things are on the

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cusp, but it's like, was that like

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96 or 91?

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You know?

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So anyways.

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Katie: Yep.

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Yep.

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Let's see.

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Roseanne.

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Yep, yep, yep.

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Katie: We have one set in Minnesota,

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Amy Lewis: Coach.

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Katie: coach, and the

number one is not a sitcom.

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Katie: serious show,

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Amy Lewis: Hmm.

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Katie: investigative journalism.

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Katie: It's got a very iconic

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opening.

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Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

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This is book, I'm trying to think.

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It says CSI, but I feel like

that it started after that.

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Katie: It is, it is.

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It's nonfiction.

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Hmm.

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I'm trying to think.

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Not unsolved Mysteries, is it?

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Katie: You're getting,

you're getting warmer.

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Give up.

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Amy Lewis: I think so, because I

never watched a lot of like serious

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stuff or scary stuff and still to

this day I'm a bit very skittish, so.

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Katie: It's 60 minutes.

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I wanted to do tick, tick,

tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

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But yeah you kind of forget about

that kind of a show when you're,

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when you're kind of talking

about, but that was number one.

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Show

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Amy Lewis: Hmm.

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Katie: time.

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60 minutes, man.

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Amy Lewis: I think that's usually when

I was like, ah, time to go to bed.

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Katie: same.

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I would, that was not my jam in 93.

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Amy Lewis: Right.

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When Andy Rooney came on and complained

about something, I'm just like, I'm done.

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I'm going to bed.

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Goodnight.

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Katie: Alright, the next

category is return to tune time.

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Amy Lewis: Hmm.

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Katie: This animated series, which debuted

in 19 90, 19 92, but was incredibly

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popular into 93, followed a group of

mutant superheroes who dealt with both

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personal challenges and powerful enemies,

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all while exploring themes

of prejudice and acceptance.

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What was the name of this show?

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Is it, is it Teenage Media of

Turtles or is it Mighty Morphin?

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Power Rangers.

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Katie: You're close.

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It's X-Men, the animated series.

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Amy Lewis: Oh, which

I was like super into.

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Yeah.

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Katie: I was not, I've

never seen that one.

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Amy Lewis: Interesting.

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Katie: yeah,

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Amy Lewis: I guess I

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didn't pay attention to

the whole prejudice thing.

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'cause I was a little bit too naive to

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Katie: right.

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The, it's funny, revisiting things.

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All right, let's, let's, let's

do another category here.

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Big screen time machine.

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So this is box office, the top five

movies at the box office for 93.

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Amy Lewis: Yep.

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Katie: Any guesses off the top of

your head before I start with clues?

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Amy Lewis: See.

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Yeah, I think I might, I

think I might need clues.

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Katie: So, prehistoric creatures roared.

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Amy Lewis: Jurassic Park

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Katie: Very good.

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Very good.

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Amy Lewis: I like to tell a

fun story about Jurassic Park.

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Katie: Oh,

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Amy Lewis: which is not

that great of a story.

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But anyways, I don't know how

we ended up agreeing to all go

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see it in the movie theater.

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But like both me and my mom are like

I said, skittish fearful, don't wanna

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watch anything stressful or like

people dying or people getting injured.

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But in Jurassic Park, you know,

there's dinosaurs constantly

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coming out trying to attack people.

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And my mom kept like digging her

fingers into my arm, the whole movie.

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And by the end of the movie, my arm was

like completely red and like irritated.

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'cause she was so scared.

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And I was like so scared I

wasn't even paying attention.

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And she likes to, likes to deny

that this happened, but it did.

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Katie: oh my God.

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And you were what?

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Like she's making your child at this time.

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That's like child abuse, Amy.

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Amy Lewis: know.

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Call DHHS, what's the statue

of Limitations is 31 years.

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Is that too long?

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So it was very scary at the time.

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And those special effects

hold up pretty well.

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Katie: They

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do.

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I actually really liked Jurassic Parker.

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I don't remember it being

that scary, but great movie.

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Great movie.

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Amy Lewis: definitely.

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Katie: That, that was the number one.

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So good guess.

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Amy Lewis: Yeah,

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but keep, keep going.

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Clues are good.

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Katie: cross Dressing Got parental,

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Amy Lewis: Mrs.

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Doubtfire.

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Katie: Mrs.

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Doubtfire.

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Yes.

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A young lawyer joins a small but

prestigious law firm only to find

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out most of their clients are

on the wrong side of the law.

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Amy Lewis: Hmm.

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I'm just gonna guess.

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'cause again, it's like the top

movies may have not necessarily

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been targeted toward my demographic.

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Was it like the firm?

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Katie: The firm.

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Yep.

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Amy Lewis: Okay.

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Nice that

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Katie: and then in a similar vein from a

title pers title, structure perspective,

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wrongfully accused of murdering his wife,

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Harrison Ford,

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Amy Lewis: Oh.

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not coming to me.

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Katie: The Fugitive.

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Amy Lewis: oh yeah.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Amy Lewis: saw,

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yes.

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That was like, yeah, I remember.

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I remember that being extremely popular,

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Amy Lewis: sense.

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Yes.

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Katie: Yes.

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We have both of Fugitive and the firm.

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Amy Lewis: Yeah.

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Katie: And then the, the last

one is a Tom Hanks romantic

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comedy.

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Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

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Sleepless in Seattle.

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Katie: Very good.

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Very good.

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All right.

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I think we have time

for one more category.

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Amy Lewis: I live for this kind of stuff.

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Katie: I know.

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Ooh, oh, stars and scandals.

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Let's see here.

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93.

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I don't know.

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How's your supermodel knowledge?

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Amy Lewis: Of this era, probably

better than anything after, so,

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Katie: Yes.

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Amy Lewis: yeah.

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Katie: supermodel arrested in 93

after a well-publicized altercation

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with a member of the press.

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She's known for being kind of a bitch.

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Amy Lewis: Naomi Campbell.

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Katie: Very good.

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Very good.

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Amy Lewis: Yeah.

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I remember.

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And she like, like whacked

somebody with a purse or something

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like that, or, I'm trying to

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Katie: You have a better memory.

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I don't really recall this one, but

I very much remember Naomi Campbell

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and the, the nineties era supermodels.

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Very much.

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Amy Lewis: Do I know that?

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Because I have no, I mean, no.

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Fashion sense.

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I mean, period.

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I mean based, I think

that's pretty obvious,

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Katie: Well, if you grew up at the

time, I mean, how could you avoid it?

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Amy Lewis: right?

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That's, it's just

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so interesting that like they,

these, yeah, these supermodels

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sort of infiltrated everything.

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'cause it's like what exposure did I

have to any, like the fashion industry

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Katie: Did you get magazines?

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Any of those, like teen magazines?

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They were all over.

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Amy Lewis: Yeah,

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that's

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probably

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why.

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Amy Lewis: That's probably why.

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Katie: Yeah.

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I, I probably have told this story before,

but I mean, and, and I, you know, gotta

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find a scapegoat somewhere for all of

our eating disorders in the nineties.

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So they, I just remember being like 12

reading these magazines and being like,

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why don't I have a 22 inch waist like

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Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Naomi Campbell or

whoever, Christy Turlington.

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Yeah.

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Amy Lewis: Yeah.

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Really.

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Oh my gosh,

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Katie: Okay.

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Amy Lewis: so

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bad

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Katie: Okay.

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Similar.

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I'll do one more stars

and scandals question.

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This rapper in 93 faced multiple legal

challenges, including charges related to

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his involvement in a violent altercation.

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The controversy would follow him for

years despite his growing fame, and then

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he was later involved in a murder trial

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in 93.

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Amy Lewis: Snoop Dogg.

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Katie: Snoop Yep.

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Yep.

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Very good.

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Amy, you did pretty good.

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I gotta say.

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Amy Lewis: thanks.

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Yeah, I remember 1993

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quite well, so it was, it was a good year.

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Katie: Yeah, I feel like I like

some of the eighties movies better,

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but I was too young to remember.

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A lot of the trivia, so, yeah.

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The nineties, man.

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Now before we start talking about

Dennis the Menace, you know,

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this season is about John Hughes.

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Do you have any particular

thoughts about him as a writer or

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director, or how you came to start

watching his movies if you did?

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Amy Lewis: Yeah, I was essentially

raised, I would say, on John Hughes

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movies and I think a lot of that

came from both my dad and my sister.

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So I know you recently did, well,

very recently did an episode on

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Ferris Beeler's Day Off, and that is

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Amy Lewis: all

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time favorite movie.

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I grew up just outside of Chicago.

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Both my parents grew up in the city, so we

have a lot of ties to the City of Chicago.

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So huge influence on us and grew up

watching the Breakfast Club Pretty In

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Pink was probably one of my sister's

favorite movies of, of all time.

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And so, and Home Alone, I mean, the

list just goes on and on and on.

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And so I definitely was one

of those families that fell

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into the, you know, watch.

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dozen or so movies like a

million Times, and several of

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those were John Hughes movies.

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So, I'm certainly a fan.

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Some of them, you know, certainly

hold up better than than others.

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But I think in the grand scheme of

things, I think we've all been sort of

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impacted in some way, shape or form by

a John Hughes movie if you grew up in

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the, in the eighties or or nineties.

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So I'm certainly, I would say

a, a pretty, pretty big fan.

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Katie: Well, I'm very jealous that

you grew up just outside of chicago,

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so you have kind of that extra

closeness with, with his films.

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Amy Lewis: Yeah.

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Yep, definitely.

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And what we'll be talking about

later too, grew up pretty close

452

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to where they filmed the movie.

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Very familiar with that community.

454

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So, that, location connection.

455

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I have big time with John Hughes movies.

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Katie: Ugh.

457

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Love it.

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All right.

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Well, without further ado, let's get

into the movie Dennis the Menace.

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Okay.

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It was released June 25th, 1993.

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It's rated pg.

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It's got a much lower IMDB rating than

the last several John Hughes movies.

464

:

We covered with 5.7,

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:

Amy Lewis: I

466

:

Katie: which is actually generous.

467

:

Given some of the other like Rotten

Tomatoes and some of the other critics.

468

:

They were not kind to this movie.

469

:

Amy Lewis: no, they weren't.

470

:

And I think I, I kind of

know why in some ways.

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:

Yeah.

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:

Why they would be, yeah.

473

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Katie: So the director

here is not John Hughes.

474

:

So John Hughes was a writer here.

475

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The director is Nick Castle.

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Does that ring a bell in any way with you,

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Amy?

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Amy Lewis: I am trying to remember,

wasn't he connected with like

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something a little bit

like on the darker side?

480

:

I'm trying to remember what it

481

:

Katie: Definitely.

482

:

Yeah.

483

:

Halloween.

484

:

Yeah.

485

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He was like the sh the Mike Meyers yeah,

486

:

in Halloween.

487

:

So he worked with John

Carpenter quite a bit.

488

:

We talked about Nick Castle

in the Escape from New York

489

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episode because he co-wrote that.

490

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Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: And then I did read though that,

and we'll get into Warner Brothers

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Association with Dennis the Menace,

but they, when they purchased the

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movie rights to the character of Dennis

the Menace, they offered the role to

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direct to Tim Burton, which would've

been a very different movie, right.

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:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

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Oh, wow.

497

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Katie: yeah,

498

:

Amy Lewis: a very interesting take.

499

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Yeah.

500

:

Katie: definitely.

501

:

So, so, yeah, so Nick Castle directed

this, John Hughes wrote, and then Hank

502

:

Ketchum is also a accredited writer

because he was the original:

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writer.

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Now, are you familiar with the, you

know, what's your history with Dennis

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the Menace, like the comic strip,

the cartoon, the original show?

506

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Did you watch any of those?

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Amy Lewis: yes.

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I was a huge.

509

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Huge.

510

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Dennis ais fan.

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I was actually looking on

my bookshelf the other day.

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have like old comic book

compilation books of his of Hank

513

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Chu's of the original series.

514

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Huge fan.

515

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I watched the black and white

TV series on Nick at night.

516

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I think it was,

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Katie: Mm,

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Amy Lewis: think it would

519

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Katie: yeah.

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Amy Lewis: day.

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I think when I

522

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Amy Lewis: from

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school,

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sometimes it would be on.

526

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And I own DVDs of that original show.

527

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I watched the cartoon, the, the

Dek cartoon religiously as a kid.

528

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Recorded a lot of those onto blank.

529

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VHS tapes.

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Bought the series when it came out

onto VHS and then eventually onto

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DVD, which one of the DVDs is still

currently stuck in a, in our DVD

532

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player, which I need to remove.

533

:

Haven't done it.

534

:

The Made For TV movie I was obsessed with.

535

:

I could do a whole podcast

episode just about that.

536

:

So when I heard that this

movie was coming out, I was.

537

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Over the moon, because if there ever was

like a Dennis and Enni dork that, know,

538

:

is still alive today, that would be me.

539

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To the point where I think even like

some of my, like the neighborhood kids

540

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would like joke and say like, it's

Dennis and Enni and, I was just enamored.

541

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I don't know.

542

:

I can't quite identify

why, but I loved Venni.

543

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I mean, emphatically as a

child and still to this day,

544

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Katie: Were you mischievous

and pesky, like him or,

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:

Amy Lewis: not really.

546

:

That's the thing.

547

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I don't know what it was like I was,

yeah, didn't really get in any trouble.

548

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I mean, did you know things I probably

shouldn't have, but certainly not

549

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known as like being the, you know,

kid in the neighborhood that's

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gonna, you know, annoy the crap out

of everybody and knock everything

551

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over and break a bunch of stuff.

552

:

That certainly wasn't me, but

there was just something about it.

553

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I I that I just, I.

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I don't know, just thought

was funny or entertaining or

555

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maybe it was a dynamic between

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Dennis and his next door neighbor.

557

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I, I don't know quite what it was.

558

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And I was also a big

tomboy too, so I really

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Katie: Mm.

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Amy Lewis: people don't

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:

use that term anymore, but you know, I

was a huge tomboy, so a lot of the TV

562

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shows and movies and stuff that I related

to more were like, you know, little

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boys that wanted to shoot slingshots.

564

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Like that stuff I wanted to

do and ride bikes and skin my

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knees and play in the dirt.

566

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That was all stuff I wanted to do.

567

:

So I always related a lot more to

like little, boy characters when I

568

:

Katie: Catching bugs.

569

:

And like

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:

Amy Lewis: exactly.

571

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Katie: he, comes cruising down

with his I, you know, wagon full

572

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of like terrors in my opinion.

573

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There's like snakes and stuff.

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I'm like,

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Amy Lewis: Yeah.

576

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Katie: thanks.

577

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But I remember catching ladybugs

and now I'm like, oh, 'cause

578

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I'm such an animal person.

579

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And I'm like, you shitty little kid.

580

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Why?

581

:

And lightning bugs.

582

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Why did I catch these creatures

and put them in a jar?

583

:

That was so mean of me.

584

:

Amy Lewis: know I did too.

585

:

Or we'd step on them and pull it

back so you'd see like the glow guts

586

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Katie: I didn't do that.

587

:

Oh my God.

588

:

Oof.

589

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Amy Lewis: Yeah,

590

:

Katie: Yikes.

591

:

Well, I am kind of embarrassed then to be

doing this episode with you, Amy, because

592

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I am so not, I'm like the opposite.

593

:

I'm, I'm coming to this with a vague

understanding of, you know, what, that

594

:

it was based on like an old, like a

comic strip and that there was a tea.

595

:

I know.

596

:

I'm aware that it exists,

597

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

598

:

Katie: that's kind of it.

599

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

600

:

Katie: So I feel bad

covering this with you.

601

:

Amy Lewis: That's okay.

602

:

No, I think, you know, I, I'm flattered.

603

:

I mean, what are the chances that

like, some random person is gonna be

604

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really into 10, that as a woman is

gonna be really into Dennis the Menace?

605

:

So,

606

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Katie: Good point.

607

:

Amy Lewis: It's

608

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It's

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not

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something that I don't, I mean, I

don't, I can't think of one other

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person in my life that I could

shoot the breeze with about Dennis.

612

:

'cause that person does not,

613

:

Katie: doesn't

614

:

exist, Okay.

615

:

Amy Lewis: at least in my circle.

616

:

So you're It's okay.

617

:

Katie: Well, thank you

for making me feel better.

618

:

Well, so if, if there's any of you out

there like me that are less aware so

619

:

Dennis the Menace is everyone's favorite

kid from the comics back in the day.

620

:

When his parents need to go out of town

on business, they both just so happened

621

:

to have work trips the same weekend.

622

:

Amy Lewis: Yep.

623

:

Katie: And they cannot

find a babysitter for him.

624

:

He has to stay with the neighbors,

George and Martha Wilson.

625

:

And he drives Mr.

626

:

Wilson crazy, but it's not malicious, you

know, he's just trying to be helpful even

627

:

to the thief who has arrived in town.

628

:

So we'll get to all of that.

629

:

Amy Lewis: Yep.

630

:

Trying hard not to roll my eyes

about that part, but continue.

631

:

Katie: So, Walter Mattau

is the perfect Mr.

632

:

Wilson, isn't he?

633

:

Amy Lewis: He is brilliant.

634

:

I mean, is fantastic in this movie.

635

:

I mean in everything but amazing.

636

:

Katie: He, he really was good.

637

:

I mean, I, I only know him as playing

a grumpy old man in, in any movie.

638

:

Like he plays that perfectly.

639

:

Amy Lewis: He does.

640

:

Yes.

641

:

And I looked up some information

about Walter Mattau today, just outta

642

:

curiosity 'cause I've always adored him.

643

:

And my dad is the same age as

Walter Mattau is in this movie.

644

:

And my dad seems about 20 years

younger than him, which is

645

:

just a very bizarre realization

646

:

Katie: he supposed to be in the movie?

647

:

Amy Lewis: I don't think they

ever really said, I mean, probably

648

:

like sixties or seventies.

649

:

And he's like 73 in this movie,

650

:

Katie: Hmm.

651

:

Okay.

652

:

Mm-hmm.

653

:

Amy Lewis: So, I think, you know, I, I

think when the comic strip would've come

654

:

out, I probably would, you know, people,

things did happen a lot younger, so I'm

655

:

guessing probably in the comic books, he

was supposed to be probably like early

656

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

657

:

Amy Lewis: But yeah,

in real life he was 73.

658

:

I was like, dear God, that

has the same age as my dad.

659

:

This is really weird.

660

:

So

661

:

Katie: Oh my gosh.

662

:

This comes up.

663

:

This comes up every,

literally every movie.

664

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

665

:

Katie: People just looked so

much older back in the day.

666

:

Amy Lewis: Oh my God, yes.

667

:

Holy

668

:

Katie: know, like a, like a woman my

age back in the day would be like,

669

:

well, let's put her out to pasture.

670

:

She's done and over with, you know?

671

:

Amy Lewis: either gonna play

a grandma role or you're done.

672

:

So

673

:

Katie: Yeah.

674

:

Amy Lewis: pretty much.

675

:

Katie: wild.

676

:

Amy Lewis: I know.

677

:

Well, and I think Walter Math,

although, you know, unfort, I could

678

:

see him having sort of like a parting

kind of hard outside of things.

679

:

I think he looked like he was 90 for, you

know, a very, since he was like 40, so

680

:

Katie: He is one of those, there

are a handful of those Yeah.

681

:

That we talk about.

682

:

He definitely is.

683

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

684

:

Katie: Did, were you familiar

with the actor who played Dennis?

685

:

Mason Gamble?

686

:

Amy Lewis: Not really, not not

prior to, no, I think he was kind

687

:

of like a, a, a relative unknown.

688

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

689

:

Amy Lewis: but prior to this film and

yeah, he was, I guess, selected out of.

690

:

Tens of thousands of

691

:

Katie: Yeah.

692

:

Amy Lewis: that,

693

:

Kids

694

:

that auditioned for the role, which

is just, I mean, unbelievable.

695

:

And I'm not really sure if there was

anybody else that was like more well

696

:

known that was also up for the role.

697

:

But he, he won it.

698

:

And yeah, I

699

:

Katie: Oddly enough.

700

:

A lot of times.

701

:

So in some of the trivia

that we'll get to later.

702

:

I have a lot of casting could have gone

a different way, but none for Dennis.

703

:

Nobody well known.

704

:

He cer, he certainly was a cute kid

705

:

Amy Lewis: Yes.

706

:

Katie: I don't even like kids.

707

:

But he was, he was very cute.

708

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

709

:

Katie: Not really in anything.

710

:

Like he did go on to be in

Rushmore Gatica and Spy Hard

711

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

712

:

Katie: and apparently he's supposed

to be a 5-year-old, but he was seven.

713

:

The, the actual actor was seven.

714

:

Amy Lewis: okay.

715

:

Katie: So the actress who plays Mrs.

716

:

Wil Wilson Martha

717

:

Amy Lewis: Yes.

718

:

Katie: extremely famous and, but

her name didn't just come to me.

719

:

It's Martha, or I'm sorry, Joan

720

:

Playwright.

721

:

Yes.

722

:

Do you have, do you

have thoughts about her?

723

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

724

:

Same.

725

:

Same with me, is like, yeah, she's

this super well known, had been

726

:

acting for decades and decades and

was married to somebody very famous.

727

:

But I think I only knew

of her from this movie.

728

:

I can't think of anything else that I

remember watching that she was in, but

729

:

I think that she was also well cast.

730

:

I thought that she did a great job too.

731

:

I think they really, the two of them

really made, made the movie kind of

732

:

Katie: mm-hmm.

733

:

Amy Lewis: quasi tolerable to watch.

734

:

So, which, you know,

735

:

Katie: Yeah.

736

:

Yeah.

737

:

She, you probably do know her from she

Dalmatians from:

738

:

Also John Hughes film.

739

:

Amy Lewis: Yep.

740

:

Katie: And then she was in Flubber in

97 with John, another John Hughes film.

741

:

Now she's a dame, or she was a dame

742

:

Amy Lewis: Yes.

743

:

Katie: and also a Baroness.

744

:

Married to Lawrence Olivier.

745

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

746

:

I like, how did that happen?

747

:

I, that's just,

748

:

Katie: she was his third

wife and, and his widow.

749

:

So she was married Tim

when he passed away.

750

:

Amy Lewis: yeah.

751

:

Katie: But yeah, like a stage actress,

a career that spanned like six decades.

752

:

Oscar nominated, she won two

Golden Globes, so yeah, she's

753

:

Joan playwright.

754

:

I wouldn't have come up with that on

my own, but she did look very familiar.

755

:

Amy Lewis: And she should

have won an Oscar for her

756

:

performance of reading that poem

757

:

Katie: Oh,

758

:

Amy Lewis: poem to

759

:

Dennis at

760

:

bedtime.

761

:

It's like, I remember watching that as

a kid, getting oh my God, this is so

762

:

Katie: teary.

763

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah, so

764

:

Katie: Yeah,

765

:

Amy Lewis: wanna

766

:

lay in the fetal position and cry silently

to myself and listen to her recite that

767

:

again because it's so, so well done.

768

:

Katie: You're right.

769

:

I had kind of forgotten.

770

:

There was a sweet moment when 'cause

at first you're like, oh, they aren't

771

:

really gonna show their marriage.

772

:

But they, they do.

773

:

She

774

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

775

:

Katie: kind of, they talk in bed

about they never had children.

776

:

And so they talk a little bit

about that and she's like, it's

777

:

not that that's bothering me, it's

that I wanna talk to you about it

778

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

779

:

Katie: I can't.

780

:

Amy Lewis: Right.

781

:

Katie: It's like kind of a,

782

:

Amy Lewis: moments that like, in

783

:

this

784

:

beautiful like script writing and

then the next moment the stupid

785

:

switchblade Sam crap happens.

786

:

And it's like, what in the.

787

:

We could have eliminated

half an hour of this movie

788

:

Katie: Oh my God.

789

:

What was the plot?

790

:

Amy Lewis: I don't know.

791

:

And that, but unfortunately, fortunately,

or unfortunately, you know, the whole

792

:

switchblade Sam thing is that my sister

and I would recite to each other for

793

:

no reason for a really long time.

794

:

Especially like the scene where he takes

the apple from the kid that's cross-eyed

795

:

as my sister just outta nowhere.

796

:

Be like, what you got

797

:

Katie: Uh.

798

:

Amy Lewis: uh, Apple.

799

:

I mean, it's like, does that, I mean,

that could be a whole episode by itself.

800

:

Like, why the heck was this

person in the movie, like

801

:

Katie: Which, which person?

802

:

The cross-eyed kid or switch played Sam?

803

:

Amy Lewis: yeah.

804

:

Really.

805

:

And the like with the

emphasis of the whole

806

:

Katie: Yeah.

807

:

Amy Lewis: thing

808

:

is a foot

809

:

Katie: Yeah.

810

:

Amy Lewis: age.

811

:

And

812

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

813

:

Amy Lewis: why?

814

:

So we're, you know, knocking somebody

with a disability, which, you know, I

815

:

Katie: 93, you know?

816

:

Amy Lewis: to, you know,

817

:

I've got two, you know,

neurodiverse children.

818

:

I don't appreciate the,

you know, cross side jokes.

819

:

Not that that has anything to do with

820

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

821

:

Mm-hmm.

822

:

Amy Lewis: and then, and then

the switchblade Sam thing.

823

:

Seriously, on.

824

:

There's never some creepy robber

slash stabber slash filthy

825

:

whatever in any Ns amount of stuff.

826

:

So I could really go off on a

tangent, but I'm gonna restrain

827

:

Katie: Oh, there wasn't,

that's, that is interesting.

828

:

Well.

829

:

Amy Lewis: of, but

830

:

Katie: That's a good po.

831

:

Ugh.

832

:

I almost don't know which direction

to go with, with So Switchblade Sam.

833

:

Sam is played by Christopher Lloyd,

and I love Christopher Lloyd, but it,

834

:

Amy Lewis: same, he's

he's a brilliant actor.

835

:

Brilliant actor

836

:

Katie: he was very similar to Uncle

Fester in a lot of ways, though.

837

:

There were things he did in this that I

was like, oh, that's very Uncle Ester.

838

:

Amy Lewis: I didn't even think of that,

that, but you're absolutely right.

839

:

Yeah.

840

:

Yep.

841

:

Katie: I think the reason, so it's

interesting to hear that this did

842

:

get pulled out of nowhere, and I

hadn't seen this movie, so I, I did

843

:

see it in the theater at a matinee.

844

:

I remember like our small town

theater going to the matinee.

845

:

I remember loving it and oddly enough,

I probably only saw it like that

846

:

one time, you know, 30 years ago,

847

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

848

:

Katie: Until I re-watched it last night.

849

:

And it's funny because the,

this, the one scene that I.

850

:

I remembered a few, but the

scene I remember most was the

851

:

apple with, with that kid.

852

:

Amy Lewis: you

853

:

Katie: And

854

:

Amy Lewis: Sport.

855

:

Katie: I, that's the, for whatever reason,

that was the most memorable thing to me,

856

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

857

:

Katie: the way he said it.

858

:

And

859

:

yeah.

860

:

Amy Lewis: that's, that

is a red flag, if that's

861

:

Katie: Oh my God.

862

:

Amy Lewis: That's,

863

:

Katie: did not recall how gross this

hobo like stereotypical old timey

864

:

train hopping hobo is, is what he was.

865

:

Amy Lewis: Yes.

866

:

A hobo Yes.

867

:

My, my dad went as a hobo for Halloween

as well back, back when, but yes.

868

:

I, I don't understand.

869

:

Well, I guess one thing I learned was that

know, John Hughes did Home Alone, and I

870

:

think Christopher Lloyd was offered a role

of one of the robbers or whatever, you

871

:

know, one of the bad guys in the movie.

872

:

Katie: Yeah, it was Joe Pei's

873

:

role, I wanna say.

874

:

Yeah.

875

:

Amy Lewis: And

876

:

he turned it down and he

always kind of regretted it.

877

:

And he said that to John Hughes.

878

:

So then the minute that there was some

other you know, villain person to play,

879

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

880

:

Amy Lewis: John

881

:

Hughes booked him for that.

882

:

But it's like, I would've never

thought that that would've been

883

:

incorporated into a Dennis a Meni movie.

884

:

I mean, it had nothing.

885

:

To do with

886

:

Katie: To do.

887

:

Amy Lewis: And um, e Ebert even

threw that right under the bus.

888

:

What did this have to do with anything?

889

:

Because there's all these

beautiful tender moments between

890

:

Dennis and Wilson and and Mrs.

891

:

Wilson.

892

:

That was such a beautiful thing.

893

:

And then there's like this Yeah.

894

:

Hobo that fills up on refried beans

or whatever, and you know what I mean?

895

:

Is trying to allegedly stab apples

and, you know, maybe stab children.

896

:

I, I don't, I don't get it.

897

:

And

898

:

Katie: Yeah, he's just like hanging about,

hanging about the town for three days.

899

:

Doing just, just being creepy, you know?

900

:

Just walking around being creepy.

901

:

Amy Lewis: right.

902

:

Katie: It didn't have

anything to do with anything.

903

:

And now that you say that, you're right.

904

:

So John Hughes, clearly

it was like a ham fisted.

905

:

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

906

:

Katie: I gotta figure out a way

to get Christopher Lloyd in a

907

:

robber role in one of my movies,

so I'll write that into this.

908

:

Amy Lewis: right.

909

:

Katie: Very much so.

910

:

Amy Lewis: I mean, there's so much

that more they could have done with him

911

:

and still included him in the movie.

912

:

But it

913

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

914

:

Amy Lewis: make sense.

915

:

And just, and I can hear that.

916

:

I forgot what that music sounds like

every time that his character comes

917

:

onto the screen and I rewatch the movie

too, and I was already just like, oh

918

:

Like, here comes this like creepy guy

who is still really creepy to this

919

:

Katie: Oh, gross.

920

:

Very gross.

921

:

Yeah.

922

:

Amy Lewis: you know,

923

:

Katie: Ugh.

924

:

Amy Lewis: it's not

925

:

even about being homeless, hobo, whatever.

926

:

I mean, just

927

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

928

:

Amy Lewis: presence

929

:

of

930

:

every, I mean, I mean, that's the

931

:

Katie: His hair, his

teeth, his sinister nature.

932

:

Yeah, it, it was, it was a bit much, I

thought too, even like for this PG movie

933

:

Amy Lewis: Right.

934

:

Katie: speaking of the music Jerry

Goldsmith famous, you know, prolific

935

:

career spanning over 50 years we

did let's see what episode we talked

936

:

about last season where Cherry

Goldsmith did the score was Kurt

937

:

Russell film executive decision.

938

:

But it sort of seems like, I mean,

he has what movie did he not score?

939

:

It seems like he's

940

:

scored so many.

941

:

Amy Lewis: Right.

942

:

And it was brilliant.

943

:

I mean, the music is

like sinister, creepy.

944

:

I mean, it's fantastic.

945

:

But again, that is not, that does not

fit the, you know, the theme or whatever

946

:

you wanna say to, you know, it's not

staying true to the whole Dennis and Meni

947

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

948

:

Good point.

949

:

Amy Lewis: yeah.

950

:

it just doesn't it doesn't jive.

951

:

And so if that could have been

cut out, there still would've

952

:

been like a story there.

953

:

Like he was not necessary to

the, you know, to the story

954

:

Katie: No, because then there was

the, it was like, well, which was

955

:

the A plot and which was the B plot,

the flower extravaganza with the

956

:

orchid or, and that getting ruined.

957

:

I don't know.

958

:

It does seem to be

959

:

there, there was no like,

overarching plot to the movie.

960

:

It just seemed to me

anyway just a series of

961

:

hijinks just kind of shoved together.

962

:

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

963

:

Katie: A little bit.

964

:

And, and it, I remember really liking,

I remember like being a kid and

965

:

thinking a ton of, it was funny, but

966

:

Amy Lewis: Yes.

967

:

It's

968

:

Katie: it didn't, it didn't work

so much when I re-watched it.

969

:

And the first thing I thought of was like,

this is just home alone, but by accident

970

:

lit, it's literally home alone,

but the kid is doing it by accident

971

:

Amy Lewis: right?

972

:

Basically, yes.

973

:

Katie: and not as good.

974

:

Amy Lewis: No, not even close.

975

:

Katie: And it's wild.

976

:

Then, because I, that's the, I

kept thinking being like, wow,

977

:

this is literally home alone.

978

:

And then afterwards I was like

reading some of the reviews and

979

:

stuff, and so clearly that's a ever,

that's a common criticism, I guess.

980

:

Mm-hmm.

981

:

Amy Lewis: ICII am, I can't believe

that Hank Ketchum was okay with that,

982

:

and I don't really know that much

about him personally, actually do have

983

:

his like, biography that's not in no

longer in like publication might found

984

:

a old, old copy of it or whatever.

985

:

I'm gonna sit down and read at some

point when I have three minutes.

986

:

But I, I mean, I, I don't know how

I would be like, are you kidding me?

987

:

Don't take my, you

988

:

Katie: Mm-hmm.

989

:

Amy Lewis: this, you know, comic strip

that I put together, you know, 40 years

990

:

ago and destroy it with this, you know,

character that's gonna terrify children

991

:

when this movie is aimed at children.

992

:

I, I, I just, yeah,

993

:

Katie: It's odd.

994

:

You're right.

995

:

What did you think about the parents?

996

:

So played by Leah Thompson as the mom.

997

:

Amy Lewis: Yep.

998

:

Katie: We all know Leah Thompson

and then Robert Stanton plays

999

:

Henry the dad, who is, you know.

:

00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:40,509

He didn't, he really was

just like a Melba toast type

:

00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:41,059

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:37:41,689 --> 00:37:42,199

Katie: you know,

:

00:37:42,649 --> 00:37:42,979

Amy Lewis: Yep.

:

00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:43,849

Katie: or milk toast.

:

00:37:43,849 --> 00:37:46,669

What's the, what's the phrase for just, eh

:

00:37:46,979 --> 00:37:48,479

Amy Lewis: I don't know a tool,

:

00:37:49,169 --> 00:37:49,319

Katie: yeah.

:

00:37:50,339 --> 00:37:50,399

Amy Lewis: do

:

00:37:50,609 --> 00:37:50,909

Katie: Yes.

:

00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:51,239

Amy Lewis: anymore?

:

00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:51,299

A

:

00:37:51,299 --> 00:37:51,749

tool?

:

00:37:52,169 --> 00:37:52,409

Katie: I don't know.

:

00:37:52,409 --> 00:37:53,159

It's so nineties.

:

00:37:53,369 --> 00:37:54,329

It's so nineties.

:

00:37:54,334 --> 00:37:54,654

I love it.

:

00:37:54,779 --> 00:37:55,019

Amy Lewis: is

:

00:37:55,154 --> 00:38:00,089

Katie: But he, aside from his

look, I thought his look was spot

:

00:38:00,089 --> 00:38:02,519

on with the, the comic strip,

:

00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:03,209

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

00:38:03,299 --> 00:38:05,909

Katie: the dad served like

zero purpose other than that.

:

00:38:05,939 --> 00:38:07,889

And Leah Thompson's the mom, I don't know.

:

00:38:08,189 --> 00:38:08,399

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:38:08,399 --> 00:38:11,459

May, maybe she could be Crystal

Christopher Lloyd, the dad or something.

:

00:38:11,459 --> 00:38:12,179

I mean, come on.

:

00:38:13,174 --> 00:38:15,299

Katie: He actually was considered no.

:

00:38:15,959 --> 00:38:16,469

Yeah.

:

00:38:16,869 --> 00:38:17,799

Maybe I'm getting it wrong.

:

00:38:17,799 --> 00:38:18,939

Let me, let me double check.

:

00:38:18,969 --> 00:38:19,419

I have,

:

00:38:19,419 --> 00:38:22,779

Amy Lewis: decent, like well-known

actors that were considered for the role.

:

00:38:22,779 --> 00:38:23,559

I don't know how

:

00:38:23,634 --> 00:38:24,054

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

00:38:24,489 --> 00:38:28,659

Amy Lewis: kind of like Carson Daley,

if you will, like just, we always talked

:

00:38:28,659 --> 00:38:30,189

about Carson Daley was a tool when

:

00:38:30,734 --> 00:38:30,735

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:38:31,209 --> 00:38:31,509

Amy Lewis: again,

:

00:38:31,629 --> 00:38:32,859

Katie: It was Daniel Stern

:

00:38:33,009 --> 00:38:33,459

Amy Lewis: okay.

:

00:38:33,489 --> 00:38:35,589

Katie: who I was thinking

of from home alone.

:

00:38:35,769 --> 00:38:39,429

That was considered for both

Switchblade Sam and the dad,

:

00:38:39,579 --> 00:38:40,149

Amy Lewis: wow.

:

00:38:40,629 --> 00:38:41,349

Katie: But anyway, go on.

:

00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:42,214

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt

:

00:38:42,399 --> 00:38:43,119

Amy Lewis: No, that's okay.

:

00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:43,329

No,

:

00:38:43,344 --> 00:38:44,404

Katie: Carson Daly being a tool.

:

00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:47,569

Amy Lewis: Yeah, or, or like, or like

my mom would say he's a big zero.

:

00:38:48,049 --> 00:38:50,329

I'm, I'll let her know that she'll,

I'm sure she'll listen to the show.

:

00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:51,019

I'm, I'm not kidding.

:

00:38:51,069 --> 00:38:55,149

But I thought, I mean, Leah Thompson,

I thought, you know, she did, you

:

00:38:55,149 --> 00:38:58,589

know a good enough job as as Alice

and you know, certainly stood out

:

00:38:58,589 --> 00:39:00,459

more a lot more than the dad, but I

:

00:39:00,464 --> 00:39:00,884

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:39:00,999 --> 00:39:01,359

Amy Lewis: had

:

00:39:01,419 --> 00:39:04,039

more dialogue and I think I.

:

00:39:04,774 --> 00:39:08,494

Although this movie is set in the

nineties, which you kind of feel like

:

00:39:08,494 --> 00:39:12,844

a sort of as a progressive time, it

still kind of isn't either because she's

:

00:39:12,844 --> 00:39:18,134

still sort of doing the mom stuff and

getting flack for being a mom by another

:

00:39:18,134 --> 00:39:19,694

woman coincidentally, which is, you

:

00:39:19,779 --> 00:39:20,199

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:39:20,204 --> 00:39:20,834

Amy Lewis: interesting.

:

00:39:20,864 --> 00:39:21,344

Katie: yeah.

:

00:39:21,394 --> 00:39:21,754

Amy Lewis: But I thought

:

00:39:21,844 --> 00:39:26,704

Katie: Major clashing with a woman

who has kids versus one who, who

:

00:39:26,704 --> 00:39:28,714

doesn't have kids, but she has a life.

:

00:39:28,744 --> 00:39:29,434

Amy Lewis: right.

:

00:39:29,464 --> 00:39:29,884

Yeah.

:

00:39:30,304 --> 00:39:30,844

Katie: That's what she says.

:

00:39:31,229 --> 00:39:33,214

Amy Lewis: I know, as I've

totally forgot about that.

:

00:39:33,269 --> 00:39:33,689

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:39:34,114 --> 00:39:36,414

Amy Lewis: unnecessary

you know, other story,

:

00:39:36,539 --> 00:39:36,959

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:39:37,044 --> 00:39:37,284

Amy Lewis: plot

:

00:39:37,284 --> 00:39:37,524

line

:

00:39:37,524 --> 00:39:39,594

that's like not necessary.

:

00:39:39,994 --> 00:39:40,654

But I thought she did.

:

00:39:40,714 --> 00:39:42,844

Yeah, I thought she did a

great you know, a great job.

:

00:39:42,904 --> 00:39:45,514

But I think, yeah, the

dad could have been.

:

00:39:45,874 --> 00:39:46,714

You know, cast better.

:

00:39:46,744 --> 00:39:50,494

'cause I think the, the whoever

played the father in the original

:

00:39:50,554 --> 00:39:54,784

series, the, you know, the tele

original live action television

:

00:39:54,784 --> 00:39:58,324

series, I thought that, you know, dad

was definitely more memorable than,

:

00:39:58,399 --> 00:39:58,619

Katie: Mm.

:

00:39:58,674 --> 00:39:58,764

Amy Lewis: The

:

00:39:58,764 --> 00:39:59,544

dad in this movie.

:

00:39:59,544 --> 00:39:59,694

So,

:

00:39:59,844 --> 00:40:00,234

Katie: Okay.

:

00:40:00,534 --> 00:40:00,894

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

00:40:01,014 --> 00:40:01,674

Katie: Interesting.

:

00:40:01,704 --> 00:40:02,244

Okay.

:

00:40:02,764 --> 00:40:07,504

Now I actually did kind of get a

kick out of the annoying little girl.

:

00:40:07,564 --> 00:40:07,954

Amy Lewis: Mm,

:

00:40:08,054 --> 00:40:10,454

Katie: Like Margaret Wade,

:

00:40:10,634 --> 00:40:10,994

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:40:11,144 --> 00:40:13,129

Katie: by Amy Saka.

:

00:40:14,289 --> 00:40:16,784

S gets sits, Saka sits.

:

00:40:16,934 --> 00:40:18,614

That's a hard, that's a hard name to say.

:

00:40:18,614 --> 00:40:18,824

Amy.

:

00:40:18,824 --> 00:40:21,884

SS

:

00:40:22,094 --> 00:40:24,134

Amy Lewis: I'm sure people really

butchered, I mean, made fun

:

00:40:24,194 --> 00:40:24,794

Katie: yeah.

:

00:40:25,184 --> 00:40:25,994

Amy Lewis: so Poor thing.

:

00:40:26,354 --> 00:40:28,904

Katie: She was like just a, a mini adult.

:

00:40:29,054 --> 00:40:33,704

I, I kind of got a kick out of

her just because of all the adult

:

00:40:33,704 --> 00:40:35,204

things she was doing and saying.

:

00:40:35,389 --> 00:40:35,789

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:40:35,969 --> 00:40:36,839

Yeah, she was pretty fun.

:

00:40:36,839 --> 00:40:39,269

I mean, she, she looked like

kinda like an American doll

:

00:40:39,339 --> 00:40:39,759

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:40:39,789 --> 00:40:40,239

Amy Lewis: like with our

:

00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,159

curls and the, the, glasses and stuff.

:

00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:44,709

But yeah, I think she did a good job

of playing sort of like an annoying

:

00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,939

neighborhood girl you know, that wanted

the boys to play what she wanted to play.

:

00:40:49,219 --> 00:40:52,609

So I think she was pretty you know,

pretty convincing in that role.

:

00:40:52,609 --> 00:40:53,869

So, yeah, not too bad.

:

00:40:53,869 --> 00:40:57,409

I don't think I, I certainly don't

remember her from anything else

:

00:40:57,409 --> 00:40:59,989

either, but I probably wouldn't

have recognized her if she was in

:

00:40:59,989 --> 00:41:04,069

something else too, just because of her

costuming and stuff for, for the movie.

:

00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:04,429

So,

:

00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,494

Katie: She didn't, I think she did

a few things, but both her and the,

:

00:41:08,524 --> 00:41:12,154

the kid who played Joey, the other

friend, like the other little boy,

:

00:41:12,229 --> 00:41:13,249

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

00:41:13,249 --> 00:41:14,239

Mm-hmm.

:

00:41:14,524 --> 00:41:18,724

Katie: he's played by Kellen Hathaway

and neither of those two really.

:

00:41:19,474 --> 00:41:21,754

Went on to really do much else.

:

00:41:21,754 --> 00:41:22,894

So this was kind of it.

:

00:41:23,344 --> 00:41:23,494

Amy Lewis: Well, I'm

:

00:41:23,494 --> 00:41:25,624

sure when people saw this movie

were like, oh, you're in that movie.

:

00:41:26,464 --> 00:41:26,974

Nevermind.

:

00:41:28,399 --> 00:41:30,349

Katie: I thought Joey was really cute.

:

00:41:30,349 --> 00:41:32,179

I thought he was like a cute little kid.

:

00:41:32,489 --> 00:41:35,819

And I thought she did a good job

as an annoying, annoying kid.

:

00:41:35,929 --> 00:41:38,479

The chief of Police is

pretty well known though.

:

00:41:38,529 --> 00:41:39,339

Paul Winfield.

:

00:41:39,654 --> 00:41:39,924

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

00:41:39,924 --> 00:41:41,424

He's definitely one of those

people who are like, I know

:

00:41:41,424 --> 00:41:42,534

I've seen him in something.

:

00:41:43,104 --> 00:41:43,494

Yeah.

:

00:41:44,019 --> 00:41:45,399

Katie: He was in Cliffhanger.

:

00:41:45,399 --> 00:41:47,769

Mars attacks the Terminator

:

00:41:48,054 --> 00:41:48,414

Amy Lewis: Hmm.

:

00:41:48,979 --> 00:41:50,839

Katie: I've never seen this,

but I hear it's pretty good.

:

00:41:50,869 --> 00:41:52,969

Star Trek, the Wrath of Khan.

:

00:41:53,179 --> 00:41:53,749

Amy Lewis: Oh yeah.

:

00:41:53,749 --> 00:41:55,639

I've never, never got into Star Trek, but

:

00:41:55,819 --> 00:41:56,209

Katie: yeah.

:

00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,839

Me neither.

:

00:41:56,839 --> 00:41:57,529

Mm-hmm.

:

00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:58,009

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

00:41:58,009 --> 00:42:01,699

Some of, I mean, they got, they certainly

got some big names for the movie.

:

00:42:01,699 --> 00:42:05,509

And again, I'm just, I guess I

was surprised that Walter Mattau

:

00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,679

especially would agree based on

the whole switchblade Sam thing.

:

00:42:09,709 --> 00:42:14,359

'cause I feel like he would've been, to

assume or stereotype, but I feel like he

:

00:42:14,359 --> 00:42:17,959

would probably would've been familiar with

the comic strip just solely based on age.

:

00:42:18,004 --> 00:42:18,424

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:42:18,439 --> 00:42:22,309

Amy Lewis: And so I'm just surprised

that he's like, you know, oh yeah, sure.

:

00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:26,649

Like he gets like kidnapped

and swallows a key.

:

00:42:26,649 --> 00:42:27,999

That's, that's, that sounds great.

:

00:42:27,999 --> 00:42:28,449

Sign me up.

:

00:42:29,499 --> 00:42:29,799

Yeah.

:

00:42:30,399 --> 00:42:31,029

Katie: Sign me up.

:

00:42:31,984 --> 00:42:32,204

Uh,

:

00:42:32,259 --> 00:42:32,529

Amy Lewis: Fall

:

00:42:32,529 --> 00:42:33,009

onto like

:

00:42:33,009 --> 00:42:34,659

a couch that like fell in the river.

:

00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,049

Great.

:

00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:35,679

I'll be in that movie.

:

00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:36,609

That sounds wonderful.

:

00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:38,289

Yeah.

:

00:42:38,649 --> 00:42:41,799

Katie: I don't know if well, actually

he kind of had a resurgence in the,

:

00:42:42,249 --> 00:42:44,139

what year did grumpy old men come out?

:

00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:45,309

Like he kind of had a,

:

00:42:45,399 --> 00:42:45,729

Amy Lewis: Some

:

00:42:45,759 --> 00:42:46,299

Katie: like, maybe the,

:

00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,799

Amy Lewis: I think it

was right around then.

:

00:42:47,859 --> 00:42:50,949

91, 92, something like that.

:

00:42:51,354 --> 00:42:54,234

Katie: So maybe he was just

kind of riding the wave with it.

:

00:42:54,444 --> 00:42:57,774

The last two people that I wanted

to talk about on the cast uh,

:

00:42:57,864 --> 00:43:01,094

Natasha Leon I love her so much.

:

00:43:01,784 --> 00:43:03,944

She plays the babysitter Polly.

:

00:43:03,944 --> 00:43:07,984

And I don't know, I,

I I just dig her ever.

:

00:43:07,984 --> 00:43:09,424

You guys all know who she is.

:

00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:11,604

She's been in like tons and tons of stuff.

:

00:43:11,604 --> 00:43:15,794

She's been em nominated

for an Emmy five times.

:

00:43:15,924 --> 00:43:21,174

Very famously in Orange is the

new black Russian doll poker face.

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00:43:21,594 --> 00:43:25,194

And then, oh, she was also like back

in the day in PeeWee's Playhouse.

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00:43:25,824 --> 00:43:28,554

I think her name was Opal in that.

:

00:43:28,954 --> 00:43:29,174

Amy Lewis: wow.

:

00:43:29,394 --> 00:43:32,834

Katie: And then the movie Slums

of Beverly Hills and American Pie.

:

00:43:33,204 --> 00:43:35,034

Those are some those are all big hitters.

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00:43:35,034 --> 00:43:39,864

So you know, NA, Natasha Leone,

redheaded known for her hair.

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00:43:40,344 --> 00:43:42,444

Like that's a, that's a look that she has.

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00:43:42,504 --> 00:43:42,804

Amy Lewis: Yep.

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00:43:43,074 --> 00:43:46,494

Katie: And then her boyfriend,

very stereotypical in the movies,

:

00:43:46,494 --> 00:43:50,094

the babysitter invites her

boyfriend over to make out, and

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00:43:50,214 --> 00:43:52,554

the boyfriend is none other than

:

00:43:53,854 --> 00:43:56,374

Amy Lewis: Buzz from home

alone, which I can't think of.

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00:43:56,374 --> 00:43:57,934

I don't know his real name,

unfortunately, which is

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00:43:58,144 --> 00:43:58,444

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:43:58,444 --> 00:43:58,654

Yeah.

:

00:43:58,654 --> 00:43:59,704

I don't, yeah, I didn't write.

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00:43:59,704 --> 00:43:59,944

Yeah.

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00:44:00,004 --> 00:44:01,954

But yeah, it's buzz from home alone.

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00:44:02,014 --> 00:44:02,194

Mm-hmm.

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00:44:02,764 --> 00:44:06,874

Amy Lewis: Which I feel like

his character was more, his, his

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00:44:06,874 --> 00:44:11,254

brief appearance in the movie was

significantly more enjoyable than.

:

00:44:12,769 --> 00:44:15,799

The other like subplot line characters.

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00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:16,339

'cause he was really

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00:44:16,444 --> 00:44:17,104

Katie: Agreed.

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00:44:17,269 --> 00:44:17,689

Amy Lewis: yeah.

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00:44:17,959 --> 00:44:18,289

And I feel,

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00:44:18,289 --> 00:44:20,869

like to this day, and, and this

movie was not something that I

:

00:44:20,869 --> 00:44:22,549

watched religiously as a kid.

:

00:44:22,579 --> 00:44:26,149

'cause I, you know, I kind of liked it, I

think just because it was Dennis a menace.

:

00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,869

But still to this day, I like find myself,

like, when my kids were little in the

:

00:44:29,869 --> 00:44:35,659

tub, I felt like saying sobbed Saba,

you know, I will never be big e nug.

:

00:44:36,139 --> 00:44:36,529

You know?

:

00:44:37,054 --> 00:44:37,924

Katie: He can't read.

:

00:44:38,254 --> 00:44:38,494

Amy Lewis: Again

:

00:44:38,569 --> 00:44:38,779

Katie: Well.

:

00:44:38,834 --> 00:44:39,074

Amy Lewis: Not

:

00:44:39,074 --> 00:44:39,314

that,

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00:44:39,404 --> 00:44:41,864

you know, probably people

like, mm, cancel this

:

00:44:41,954 --> 00:44:42,374

now.

:

00:44:42,374 --> 00:44:44,624

But at the time I thought

it was hilarious and,

:

00:44:44,909 --> 00:44:45,179

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:44:45,914 --> 00:44:46,034

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:44:46,149 --> 00:44:50,079

Katie: Last night when I was watching

it, I was like, why is the boyfriend

:

00:44:50,109 --> 00:44:51,729

basically doing the babysitting?

:

00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:52,689

Where's Polly?

:

00:44:52,899 --> 00:44:57,129

He was in there reading the book while

Dennis was taking his bath, he was

:

00:44:57,129 --> 00:44:58,929

in there reading the book to him.

:

00:44:58,929 --> 00:45:00,099

It's like, where, where's Polly?

:

00:45:00,099 --> 00:45:00,699

What's she doing?

:

00:45:00,699 --> 00:45:01,719

She's the babysitter.

:

00:45:01,794 --> 00:45:02,424

Amy Lewis: That's true.

:

00:45:02,784 --> 00:45:03,294

That's true.

:

00:45:03,384 --> 00:45:03,954

Who knows?

:

00:45:03,954 --> 00:45:07,224

I mean, she's willing to like

make out with the lights out.

:

00:45:07,284 --> 00:45:09,084

I mean, who knows what

:

00:45:09,189 --> 00:45:09,669

Katie: She's,

:

00:45:09,804 --> 00:45:10,074

Amy Lewis: is

:

00:45:10,314 --> 00:45:13,164

hitting up with, you know,

going, hitting up the bars or

:

00:45:13,164 --> 00:45:14,424

something with switchblade and

:

00:45:15,009 --> 00:45:15,459

Katie: yeah.

:

00:45:15,804 --> 00:45:15,924

Amy Lewis: you

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00:45:16,059 --> 00:45:16,689

Katie: Lou mls.

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00:45:16,689 --> 00:45:17,259

That one.

:

00:45:17,604 --> 00:45:18,234

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

00:45:18,429 --> 00:45:18,909

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:45:18,984 --> 00:45:19,224

Amy Lewis: Yep.

:

00:45:19,419 --> 00:45:20,109

Katie: indeed.

:

00:45:20,154 --> 00:45:20,694

Amy Lewis: questionable.

:

00:45:21,339 --> 00:45:28,069

Katie: Well, speaking of questionable

this poor kid, Mason Gamble, got a Rousy

:

00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:30,409

nomination for his his role in this.

:

00:45:30,814 --> 00:45:31,144

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:45:31,294 --> 00:45:31,354

Katie: I.

:

00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:33,274

don't think they do for kids anymore.

:

00:45:33,334 --> 00:45:33,844

I don't.

:

00:45:34,024 --> 00:45:34,504

Right.

:

00:45:34,939 --> 00:45:35,779

Amy Lewis: I don't, I doubt it.

:

00:45:35,779 --> 00:45:37,069

Which is, which is good.

:

00:45:37,449 --> 00:45:42,289

Because I and I've always kind of

felt this way anyways, but I had an

:

00:45:42,289 --> 00:45:47,559

episode on of my show recently where

I got to interview two individuals

:

00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:51,749

that put together a film about

kind of, what can happen to child

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00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:54,209

actors, you know, as they get older.

:

00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:58,839

And, know, I feel like that's

something that I'm kind of like

:

00:45:58,839 --> 00:45:59,769

sensitive to for some reason.

:

00:45:59,769 --> 00:46:00,759

I, I don't really know why.

:

00:46:00,759 --> 00:46:00,879

'cause

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00:46:00,879 --> 00:46:00,999

I

:

00:46:00,999 --> 00:46:03,909

like was always really sad

about like Dana Plato and like,

:

00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:04,459

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:46:04,479 --> 00:46:04,719

Amy Lewis: kind of

:

00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:04,839

went

:

00:46:04,919 --> 00:46:05,339

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:46:05,859 --> 00:46:09,489

Amy Lewis: and, you know, Gary Coleman

people were so awful to him, you know?

:

00:46:09,489 --> 00:46:12,219

And so I am glad, I hope

that they did away with that.

:

00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:18,129

I mean, it's certainly not a great movie

and probably, you know, not maybe his

:

00:46:18,129 --> 00:46:23,439

favorite piece of work that he ever did,

but I think yeah, giving a, you know,

:

00:46:23,439 --> 00:46:24,969

7-year-old kid to say oh, guess what?

:

00:46:24,969 --> 00:46:26,079

Like your movie sucked.

:

00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:30,439

Katie: Not even that the movie sucked

that his, his performance, you know,

:

00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:32,989

which I didn't think that's interesting.

:

00:46:32,989 --> 00:46:36,019

But we, you know, I, I

go off on the razzies.

:

00:46:36,019 --> 00:46:38,429

It's it, they do low hanging fruit.

:

00:46:38,459 --> 00:46:39,689

Like they don't really choose.

:

00:46:39,689 --> 00:46:39,989

Yeah.

:

00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:40,499

So,

:

00:46:40,739 --> 00:46:41,099

Amy Lewis: Right.

:

00:46:42,449 --> 00:46:45,689

Katie: and there was also a stinkers

bad movie award for this movie.

:

00:46:45,689 --> 00:46:46,349

A nom.

:

00:46:46,349 --> 00:46:46,769

A nom.

:

00:46:46,769 --> 00:46:47,579

They didn't win.

:

00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:52,329

For worst resurrection of a TV

show, which Concur probably.

:

00:46:52,419 --> 00:46:52,749

Yeah.

:

00:46:53,019 --> 00:46:56,619

Amy Lewis: Again, just 'cause it's,

if it was its own thing, if it

:

00:46:56,619 --> 00:46:58,109

was just called, if the movie was

:

00:46:58,289 --> 00:46:58,949

Katie: Hmm.

:

00:47:00,029 --> 00:47:02,789

Amy Lewis: Bob the Kid Next door,

you know, that'd be one thing, but

:

00:47:02,789 --> 00:47:06,009

it's tied to this, you know, beloved

:

00:47:06,009 --> 00:47:06,879

comic Strip.

:

00:47:07,089 --> 00:47:11,709

You know, I think that that's where

the criticism, you know, where

:

00:47:11,709 --> 00:47:14,919

people sort of drew the line, is

that it's tied to this beloved thing.

:

00:47:15,299 --> 00:47:15,569

But yeah.

:

00:47:15,569 --> 00:47:19,709

I'm glad you know, Razzie,

that's just, yeah, not cool.

:

00:47:19,769 --> 00:47:24,299

Katie: You bring up a good point

though, tying it to Dennis, the

:

00:47:24,299 --> 00:47:31,109

menace is probably, I'm just guessing

here, what got butts in seats?

:

00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:33,809

It made a, it was a

success at the box office.

:

00:47:33,809 --> 00:47:38,069

It was made for $35 million

and made 117 million,

:

00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:39,489

Worldwide.

:

00:47:39,489 --> 00:47:43,689

So again, things that make money

aren't always quality and vice versa,

:

00:47:43,914 --> 00:47:44,274

Amy Lewis: Right?

:

00:47:44,634 --> 00:47:44,874

Yeah.

:

00:47:44,874 --> 00:47:44,964

and

:

00:47:44,964 --> 00:47:47,814

people, and, and they're playing

and playing on the nostalgia, you

:

00:47:47,834 --> 00:47:48,254

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:47:48,384 --> 00:47:48,714

Amy Lewis: talk,

:

00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:52,584

I I'm always get worked up when

there's like reboots and you know,

:

00:47:52,584 --> 00:47:55,134

that's so dumb and, you know,

can't they think of anything else?

:

00:47:55,134 --> 00:47:59,394

But I wasn't thinking about thinking

at actually, you know, in, in:

:

00:47:59,394 --> 00:48:03,354

when I was begging to go probably

see this movie 50,000 times.

:

00:48:03,804 --> 00:48:04,524

But same thing.

:

00:48:04,524 --> 00:48:08,454

I mean, it's like rebooting something

that was decades old already.

:

00:48:08,844 --> 00:48:11,724

You know, when you stray too far, then

that's, you know, then that's where

:

00:48:11,724 --> 00:48:13,284

the real fans start coming out and.

:

00:48:14,109 --> 00:48:17,559

Throw yeah, throw Rotten Tomatoes

at the screen and get upset, so,

:

00:48:17,799 --> 00:48:18,219

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:18,304 --> 00:48:18,804

Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:20,034 --> 00:48:22,104

But, so I take it that

you loved it as a kid.

:

00:48:22,104 --> 00:48:23,299

What's your history with this movie?

:

00:48:23,959 --> 00:48:27,499

Amy Lewis: I think again, I think I

was because I was already, regardless,

:

00:48:27,499 --> 00:48:28,639

it had nothing to do with this movie.

:

00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:32,509

I was a huge fan of Dennis Meni several

years before this movie even came out.

:

00:48:32,509 --> 00:48:35,719

So I was like, liked

it, hadn't even seen it.

:

00:48:35,959 --> 00:48:36,229

And I think

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00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:36,439

Katie: Hmm.

:

00:48:36,619 --> 00:48:36,889

Amy Lewis: had

:

00:48:36,889 --> 00:48:37,009

the

:

00:48:37,009 --> 00:48:41,039

movie poster of it hanging in

my room before it even came out.

:

00:48:41,149 --> 00:48:45,719

So I think at the time you know,

rose colored Glasses, thought

:

00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,039

it was amazing, loved it.

:

00:48:47,189 --> 00:48:49,769

You know, really liked

Dennis, the character liked

:

00:48:50,019 --> 00:48:52,449

alter au absolutely loved it.

:

00:48:52,449 --> 00:48:54,459

But now as an adult, I, you

know, unfortunately don't

:

00:48:54,459 --> 00:48:55,809

think it holds up pretty well.

:

00:48:56,019 --> 00:48:57,339

It doesn't hold up very well,

:

00:48:57,409 --> 00:48:57,829

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:48:57,879 --> 00:48:57,939

Amy Lewis: I

:

00:48:57,939 --> 00:48:58,419

think it's

:

00:48:58,419 --> 00:49:00,669

not really something I

would wanna watch with my.

:

00:49:02,049 --> 00:49:06,549

kids either especially my, my older son

I think would be absolutely terrified,

:

00:49:07,469 --> 00:49:08,569

Katie: Oh, switchblade Sam.

:

00:49:08,889 --> 00:49:11,259

Amy Lewis: and would probably

never wanna watch it.

:

00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:11,579

Katie: Oh.

:

00:49:12,359 --> 00:49:16,579

Amy Lewis: I think that, I think that

character alone would be, would make both

:

00:49:16,579 --> 00:49:23,689

of my kids actually pretty nervous because

it's, it feels like a, like a weird not

:

00:49:23,689 --> 00:49:26,089

horror movie, but just like a weird creepy

:

00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:26,739

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:49:26,929 --> 00:49:27,289

Amy Lewis: that,

:

00:49:27,449 --> 00:49:27,869

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:49:28,009 --> 00:49:28,159

Amy Lewis: you

:

00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:28,489

know,

:

00:49:28,819 --> 00:49:32,179

oh yeah, let's watch that movie with a guy

with the rotten teeth and the oily hair.

:

00:49:32,179 --> 00:49:34,399

I don't, you know, they're

not gonna say that.

:

00:49:34,449 --> 00:49:34,839

So I don't,

:

00:49:36,849 --> 00:49:37,119

no.

:

00:49:37,929 --> 00:49:38,259

So

:

00:49:38,439 --> 00:49:40,059

Katie: And you have

little kids though, right?

:

00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,769

Amy Lewis: yeah, they're,

they're eight and 10.

:

00:49:41,869 --> 00:49:46,459

And my, my, my, my 10-year-old is has

a lot of, a lot of challenges and you

:

00:49:46,459 --> 00:49:48,379

know, things that make him uncomfortable

:

00:49:48,529 --> 00:49:48,949

Katie: Hmm.

:

00:49:49,129 --> 00:49:49,579

Okay.

:

00:49:49,759 --> 00:49:51,739

Amy Lewis: and so I think this would be.

:

00:49:52,729 --> 00:49:53,059

Katie: No, boy.

:

00:49:53,059 --> 00:49:53,389

No.

:

00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:54,019

Yeah, yeah.

:

00:49:54,304 --> 00:49:56,044

Amy Lewis: because I, there's so

many things that, you know, when you

:

00:49:56,044 --> 00:49:59,674

become a parent or you beca become

an auntie or you become a, you know,

:

00:49:59,674 --> 00:50:02,224

your best friend has a, has a baby,

and you're involved in their life.

:

00:50:02,224 --> 00:50:03,994

There's certain stuff you

kind of wanna show them.

:

00:50:04,014 --> 00:50:04,434

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:50:04,544 --> 00:50:07,994

Amy Lewis: Dennis was like a huge

part of my life, but this is like ab,

:

00:50:08,114 --> 00:50:09,524

I think I've shown them the cartoon,

:

00:50:09,989 --> 00:50:10,529

Katie: Okay.

:

00:50:11,084 --> 00:50:13,814

Amy Lewis: But I, I don't, I

have no desire, sadly, to sit

:

00:50:13,814 --> 00:50:14,834

down and watch this with them.

:

00:50:15,479 --> 00:50:16,139

Katie: Hmm.

:

00:50:16,184 --> 00:50:16,484

Amy Lewis: fast

:

00:50:16,484 --> 00:50:17,174

forwarded through those

:

00:50:17,609 --> 00:50:18,119

Katie: Yeah.

:

00:50:18,194 --> 00:50:18,674

Amy Lewis: than that, I

:

00:50:18,674 --> 00:50:19,484

mean, not really.

:

00:50:19,964 --> 00:50:22,724

So, which is, that's not how

should, they should have thought

:

00:50:22,724 --> 00:50:24,404

about that, you know, in advance,

:

00:50:24,989 --> 00:50:25,859

Katie: Good point.

:

00:50:25,904 --> 00:50:26,444

Amy Lewis: you know, are,

:

00:50:26,444 --> 00:50:28,574

people gonna watch this

with their kids in 30 years?

:

00:50:28,874 --> 00:50:29,144

No.

:

00:50:30,734 --> 00:50:32,534

So, yeah,

:

00:50:32,609 --> 00:50:32,939

Katie: There were,

:

00:50:33,014 --> 00:50:33,194

Amy Lewis: a,

:

00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,869

Katie: yeah, it, I mean, in addition

to the, you know, all of that.

:

00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:41,189

I mean, I don't know, we're not

supposed to really pick it apart, but I,

:

00:50:41,324 --> 00:50:41,714

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

00:50:41,819 --> 00:50:46,559

Katie: an adult, like watching this, I'm

like, we see like kind of the opening of

:

00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:49,699

this very you know, what, what's the word?

:

00:50:49,699 --> 00:50:51,949

Perfect little Norman Rockwell.

:

00:50:52,404 --> 00:50:52,774

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:50:52,969 --> 00:50:53,659

Katie: town

:

00:50:53,734 --> 00:50:53,884

Amy Lewis: Yeah,

:

00:50:54,109 --> 00:50:57,949

Katie: and, and you know, so clearly

it's a very safe place to live.

:

00:50:57,979 --> 00:51:01,179

And we see everybody including

the neighborhood cats.

:

00:51:01,179 --> 00:51:02,109

And of course, Mr.

:

00:51:02,109 --> 00:51:03,969

Wilson is like, oh crap.

:

00:51:03,969 --> 00:51:08,689

They can hear Dennis coming, he's pedaling

on his bike with his, with his wagon full

:

00:51:08,689 --> 00:51:12,679

of weird stuff, and they're like, oh,

we gotta get outta the way of the chaos.

:

00:51:12,739 --> 00:51:13,459

And Mr.

:

00:51:13,459 --> 00:51:17,299

Wilson goes and pretends to sleep,

but why doesn't he lock the door

:

00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:20,929

if he knows he'll just come in?

:

00:51:21,034 --> 00:51:24,784

Amy Lewis: right, and that was like a

really unnecessarily long opening scene

:

00:51:25,009 --> 00:51:25,339

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:51:25,384 --> 00:51:29,524

Amy Lewis: Like just again to something

that like just doesn't make sense.

:

00:51:29,524 --> 00:51:33,834

Like why would you think oh, we

should have them like give him an

:

00:51:33,834 --> 00:51:36,414

aspirin even though he is sleeping,

but he should like shoot it.

:

00:51:36,414 --> 00:51:36,924

And it's like.

:

00:51:39,804 --> 00:51:43,574

Can we just I, I mean, I'm not a

writer, you know, a television or

:

00:51:43,574 --> 00:51:45,344

movie writer, not a screenwriter.

:

00:51:45,344 --> 00:51:47,114

I write and run-ons.

:

00:51:47,384 --> 00:51:53,524

However, I mean, really, I have you know,

they probably had way more knowledge

:

00:51:53,524 --> 00:51:55,474

of the whole Dennis and Meni backstory.

:

00:51:55,474 --> 00:51:57,904

I mean, they've got fricking

Hank Ketchum right there.

:

00:51:58,489 --> 00:51:59,269

Katie: Good point.

:

00:51:59,494 --> 00:52:01,414

Amy Lewis: you know, like

that's what you open with.

:

00:52:01,414 --> 00:52:01,834

Really?

:

00:52:02,839 --> 00:52:03,859

Katie: Really good point.

:

00:52:04,669 --> 00:52:09,439

I do remember getting a kick out of

when I was a kid, so I mean, I, me

:

00:52:09,439 --> 00:52:11,629

as an adult, I'm not the audience.

:

00:52:11,629 --> 00:52:14,709

I mean, it's, it needs to be you

know, passable enough for like adults

:

00:52:14,709 --> 00:52:15,789

to watch with their kids, I guess.

:

00:52:15,789 --> 00:52:20,139

But I remember thinking all of

these gags and like the, the

:

00:52:20,139 --> 00:52:23,529

slapstick stuff was hilarious.

:

00:52:23,544 --> 00:52:24,024

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:52:24,189 --> 00:52:28,719

Katie: watching it last night, I guess I

was just sort of like, this is not funny.

:

00:52:28,779 --> 00:52:29,319

I don't know.

:

00:52:29,319 --> 00:52:35,229

Did you find any of them, any of the,

you know, chaos slapstick moments?

:

00:52:35,409 --> 00:52:35,799

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:52:35,799 --> 00:52:40,899

You know, I, it's funny, I've um, been

like necessarily like a huge slapstick

:

00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:43,959

comedy person, and I love, I mean, I

love comedy that's like, you know, my

:

00:52:43,959 --> 00:52:49,869

favorite but I, you know, that I feel

like there's always has to be like the,

:

00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:52,679

something happening to a man's groin area,

:

00:52:52,754 --> 00:52:53,174

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:52:53,219 --> 00:52:53,489

Amy Lewis: Don't

:

00:52:53,489 --> 00:52:54,329

find funny.

:

00:52:54,899 --> 00:52:55,469

Katie: Yep.

:

00:52:55,499 --> 00:52:55,739

Amy Lewis: like

:

00:52:55,739 --> 00:52:56,699

oldest trick in the book.

:

00:52:56,699 --> 00:52:59,039

So like that whole thing where

he like does the splits, like

:

00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:03,659

completely unnecessary and like very

uncomfortable actually to, to watch.

:

00:53:03,989 --> 00:53:06,539

And uh, didn't need to see

Walter Matthau in a, in a

:

00:53:06,539 --> 00:53:08,039

compromising position like that.

:

00:53:08,349 --> 00:53:11,409

But no, I didn't find, mean, and

again, there's, I feel like there's so

:

00:53:11,409 --> 00:53:15,999

much stuff that could have happened,

like so many more dynamics that could

:

00:53:15,999 --> 00:53:18,579

have been more more entertaining.

:

00:53:18,849 --> 00:53:22,509

I mean, I guess kind of like the, the

whole scene with the garden lanterns

:

00:53:22,509 --> 00:53:26,049

falling on his face and then like Dennis

pulling off one and talking to him.

:

00:53:26,049 --> 00:53:27,039

I mean, that was kind of funny and.

:

00:53:27,104 --> 00:53:27,524

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:53:27,664 --> 00:53:28,449

That's true.

:

00:53:28,629 --> 00:53:31,329

Amy Lewis: You know, that was kinda

like like an old man and the little

:

00:53:31,329 --> 00:53:32,619

kid kind of thing that made sense.

:

00:53:32,619 --> 00:53:34,419

But the other stuff, it's

like shooting an aspirin into

:

00:53:34,419 --> 00:53:35,829

somebody's mouth is a slingshot.

:

00:53:35,879 --> 00:53:38,999

That's just dumb.

:

00:53:39,059 --> 00:53:40,889

I don't know, like not very creative.

:

00:53:40,939 --> 00:53:41,329

Don't know.

:

00:53:41,329 --> 00:53:44,389

And it's like, and, and why would

like some kid sneak up into a

:

00:53:44,389 --> 00:53:45,439

bedroom of a neighbor's house?

:

00:53:45,439 --> 00:53:48,019

It's like, yeah, movies

are all like unrealistic.

:

00:53:48,019 --> 00:53:48,139

I mean,

:

00:53:48,424 --> 00:53:49,354

Katie: Right, right.

:

00:53:49,549 --> 00:53:49,699

Amy Lewis: but

:

00:53:49,749 --> 00:53:50,949

it's not relatable.

:

00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:51,579

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:53:51,609 --> 00:53:52,089

Amy Lewis: I was, I

:

00:53:52,089 --> 00:53:55,389

snuck up, you know, I went up to my

neighbor's bedroom last night too.

:

00:53:55,389 --> 00:53:55,929

This is great.

:

00:53:55,929 --> 00:53:56,919

I can relate to this kid.

:

00:53:56,919 --> 00:53:57,579

No, you didn't.

:

00:53:57,639 --> 00:53:58,359

You know, it's

:

00:53:58,419 --> 00:53:58,839

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:53:59,349 --> 00:54:02,769

Amy Lewis: I, I don't know, it's one

of those things too where I think it's

:

00:54:02,769 --> 00:54:06,959

written by somebody that's like, not

Dennis's age well, obviously, but is

:

00:54:06,989 --> 00:54:11,399

it that somebody that's like so far

removed from being a 7-year-old kid

:

00:54:11,699 --> 00:54:13,589

that it's like really obvious, you know?

:

00:54:14,139 --> 00:54:15,434

Katie: A, that's a good way of putting it.

:

00:54:15,654 --> 00:54:16,074

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

00:54:16,114 --> 00:54:18,969

Katie: mean, I, I, at

first, like I had to.

:

00:54:20,289 --> 00:54:25,089

For the first probably 20 minutes of

the movie, I was like, is this set in

:

00:54:25,089 --> 00:54:27,699

the fifties or is this current day?

:

00:54:27,864 --> 00:54:28,374

Amy Lewis: Yes,

:

00:54:28,629 --> 00:54:29,619

Katie: we go back and forth.

:

00:54:29,649 --> 00:54:34,029

There are a lot of things that are

very old timey, but then clearly

:

00:54:34,029 --> 00:54:36,699

it's set in current day because of

the cars and they have a microwave

:

00:54:36,699 --> 00:54:37,989

and the phones and stuff like that.

:

00:54:37,989 --> 00:54:38,319

But,

:

00:54:38,394 --> 00:54:38,844

Amy Lewis: Right?

:

00:54:39,179 --> 00:54:44,549

Katie: Like the old timey blocks, the

mo, like when we first meet Alice, her

:

00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:49,679

hair and her dress is Uber:

then the next scene she has like a normal

:

00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:51,869

hair, like for the ni you know, it's,

:

00:54:52,274 --> 00:54:52,574

Amy Lewis: Right?

:

00:54:53,609 --> 00:54:59,839

Katie: like the Wilson's clothing, very

old timey, just the whole train hopping

:

00:55:00,739 --> 00:55:04,399

weirdo, like the very

stereotypical nature of that.

:

00:55:04,449 --> 00:55:07,689

And maybe that was meant to

call back to the original show.

:

00:55:07,689 --> 00:55:08,409

I, I don't know.

:

00:55:08,409 --> 00:55:10,209

I couldn't really quite tell.

:

00:55:11,289 --> 00:55:15,369

Just even Dennis, like this, this

kid is just out playing outside

:

00:55:15,369 --> 00:55:20,379

all day every day, you know, with

his overalls and no shirt and no,

:

00:55:20,409 --> 00:55:22,329

no one is ever supervising him

:

00:55:22,554 --> 00:55:27,804

Amy Lewis: I mean, if that didn't

leave a really bad farmer's tan, don't

:

00:55:27,804 --> 00:55:34,314

know what would, I would, I refuse to

let my children have a overalls tan

:

00:55:34,449 --> 00:55:34,869

Katie: tan.

:

00:55:35,034 --> 00:55:35,274

Amy Lewis: just

:

00:55:35,274 --> 00:55:36,054

unacceptable.

:

00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:37,119

Katie: It is.

:

00:55:37,224 --> 00:55:37,794

Amy Lewis: what's that gonna,

:

00:55:37,794 --> 00:55:38,844

look like when he goes swimming?

:

00:55:38,844 --> 00:55:40,164

I mean, that's gonna look terrible.

:

00:55:42,204 --> 00:55:42,504

You know what I

:

00:55:42,729 --> 00:55:44,254

Katie: Good point, good point, good point.

:

00:55:44,904 --> 00:55:45,564

Amy Lewis: If he was gone all

:

00:55:45,729 --> 00:55:45,759

Katie: Oh,

:

00:55:45,984 --> 00:55:46,254

Amy Lewis: there's

:

00:55:46,254 --> 00:55:46,494

no

:

00:55:46,494 --> 00:55:46,884

way.

:

00:55:47,379 --> 00:55:51,129

Katie: he did say something, I did take

note of that for a five-year-old to say

:

00:55:51,129 --> 00:55:55,759

something about, oh, when he's being,

when he was sort of like, taken hostage,

:

00:55:55,759 --> 00:55:59,079

so to speak by Christopher Lloyd, he's

like, oh, well we gotta swing by my house.

:

00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:01,839

I gotta pick up this and this,

and I gotta get my sunscreen.

:

00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:05,524

And I thought, what 5-year-old

knows about putting sunscreen on?

:

00:56:05,754 --> 00:56:06,284

Good for him.

:

00:56:06,864 --> 00:56:07,104

Amy Lewis: Okay.

:

00:56:07,104 --> 00:56:07,194

Well.

:

00:56:09,369 --> 00:56:11,199

Maybe there was no

farmer's stand after all.

:

00:56:11,754 --> 00:56:14,754

Katie: But also what, what

five-year-olds are just out and about

:

00:56:15,384 --> 00:56:19,764

adventuring in the forest with all

day, every day, just five-year-olds.

:

00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:20,319

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

00:56:21,144 --> 00:56:23,454

Katie: Nobody's ever

watching these kids, ever.

:

00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:23,949

Amy Lewis: no.

:

00:56:24,429 --> 00:56:24,819

Mm-hmm.

:

00:56:25,779 --> 00:56:26,049

Nope.

:

00:56:26,109 --> 00:56:31,149

I mean, no wonder he's always

doing something, you know, got

:

00:56:31,149 --> 00:56:32,769

no, no boundaries, no rules.

:

00:56:32,769 --> 00:56:33,219

Whatever.

:

00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:34,219

Katie: He doesn't,

:

00:56:34,269 --> 00:56:34,659

Amy Lewis: know, you

:

00:56:34,659 --> 00:56:35,679

wanna run away with the hobo?

:

00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:36,489

That sounds great.

:

00:56:38,349 --> 00:56:40,119

You, do you, you do you?

:

00:56:40,914 --> 00:56:43,074

Katie: the parents were major pushovers.

:

00:56:43,224 --> 00:56:46,554

I mean from a parent, like I'm not

a parent, but I'm watching this.

:

00:56:46,554 --> 00:56:49,314

Like, Come on.

:

00:56:50,109 --> 00:56:50,259

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

00:56:50,889 --> 00:56:51,279

Oh yeah.

:

00:56:51,909 --> 00:56:57,399

know, but sometimes you just, you know,

you're so exhausted that, you know, it's

:

00:56:57,399 --> 00:57:02,589

just whatever things, just, things just

happen 'cause you're just haven't slept in

:

00:57:02,589 --> 00:57:05,764

years and your decision making skills are

:

00:57:05,884 --> 00:57:07,204

Katie: whatever, go, go

:

00:57:07,804 --> 00:57:09,034

go hang out with a hobo.

:

00:57:09,094 --> 00:57:09,964

I don't care.

:

00:57:10,054 --> 00:57:10,414

Amy Lewis: right.

:

00:57:10,984 --> 00:57:11,614

Yeah, exactly.

:

00:57:11,614 --> 00:57:15,964

You know, I'm so tired of you and your

attitude and cleaning up after you.

:

00:57:15,964 --> 00:57:17,584

You know what, go find a nice hobo.

:

00:57:17,764 --> 00:57:19,714

Go find a nice, go join

a nice hobo family.

:

00:57:19,804 --> 00:57:21,064

You hate this family so much.

:

00:57:21,244 --> 00:57:22,624

You go join a hobo family.

:

00:57:22,774 --> 00:57:23,644

Katie: Yes.

:

00:57:23,644 --> 00:57:24,904

That was always the threat.

:

00:57:25,054 --> 00:57:25,474

Yep.

:

00:57:25,479 --> 00:57:25,509

Yep.

:

00:57:25,834 --> 00:57:25,984

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

00:57:26,164 --> 00:57:27,004

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

00:57:27,094 --> 00:57:27,274

Amy Lewis: Oh, you

:

00:57:27,274 --> 00:57:28,774

think, it's, you think it's bad.

:

00:57:28,774 --> 00:57:29,164

Here

:

00:57:29,344 --> 00:57:29,944

Katie: Rough hair.

:

00:57:30,874 --> 00:57:31,084

Mm-hmm.

:

00:57:31,174 --> 00:57:31,804

Amy Lewis: beans that

:

00:57:31,804 --> 00:57:31,924

are

:

00:57:31,924 --> 00:57:33,614

opened with a pocket

:

00:57:33,734 --> 00:57:34,574

Katie: A switchblade.

:

00:57:34,634 --> 00:57:35,594

A switchblade.

:

00:57:35,714 --> 00:57:36,044

Yeah.

:

00:57:37,274 --> 00:57:37,604

Amy Lewis: Okay.

:

00:57:37,654 --> 00:57:42,244

Katie: I will say there was one part of

this movie that I genuinely got a kick out

:

00:57:42,244 --> 00:57:48,354

of because because I'm easy and basic, I

guess the, the phone hanging up montage.

:

00:57:49,649 --> 00:57:50,339

Amy Lewis: That was

:

00:57:51,324 --> 00:57:54,534

Katie: Partially because it just

showcased all of the different types

:

00:57:54,534 --> 00:57:58,104

f phones that were a thing in:

:

00:57:58,279 --> 00:57:58,499

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

00:57:59,279 --> 00:57:59,499

Yep.

:

00:58:00,294 --> 00:58:00,984

Katie: Duck phone,

:

00:58:01,099 --> 00:58:01,519

Amy Lewis: mm-hmm.

:

00:58:02,214 --> 00:58:04,794

Katie: clear phone with

the colorful insides,

:

00:58:05,194 --> 00:58:05,614

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

00:58:06,114 --> 00:58:11,004

Katie: phone, I forgot that of those

ever existing in the first place.

:

00:58:11,124 --> 00:58:11,994

And then,

:

00:58:12,819 --> 00:58:13,929

Amy Lewis: for a 32nd

:

00:58:13,929 --> 00:58:14,409

phone call.

:

00:58:14,664 --> 00:58:15,024

Katie: Yep.

:

00:58:15,894 --> 00:58:21,984

And then several different versions of

that, like fancy, ornate with the gold,

:

00:58:21,984 --> 00:58:24,324

like rich person phone, you know what I,

:

00:58:24,399 --> 00:58:25,539

Amy Lewis: think it's

called a princess phone.

:

00:58:25,764 --> 00:58:26,544

Katie: is that what it's called?

:

00:58:26,574 --> 00:58:26,844

Yeah.

:

00:58:26,844 --> 00:58:27,739

I don't know what, okay.

:

00:58:27,759 --> 00:58:28,659

Amy Lewis: I don't know why I know that.

:

00:58:28,659 --> 00:58:32,769

Again, not helpful information

for getting into college,

:

00:58:32,904 --> 00:58:34,284

Katie: Useless information.

:

00:58:34,284 --> 00:58:38,054

And then there was like a yellow retro

phone and the I liked the red phone that

:

00:58:38,054 --> 00:58:40,874

the, the Mitchell's had in their house.

:

00:58:40,874 --> 00:58:42,944

So I really did kind of like.

:

00:58:43,229 --> 00:58:45,449

Nobody wants to babysit Dennis

'cause he's such a terror.

:

00:58:45,539 --> 00:58:47,789

And we just, we solved the nineties funds.

:

00:58:47,794 --> 00:58:48,214

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

00:58:48,359 --> 00:58:48,689

Katie: That was

:

00:58:49,259 --> 00:58:49,589

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:58:49,619 --> 00:58:53,519

Well, and I think it also is like really

satisfying to slam a phone, you know?

:

00:58:53,939 --> 00:58:55,769

So that's a, that's a lost art too.

:

00:58:55,859 --> 00:58:58,169

So there's a lot of elements

to why that was such a great,

:

00:58:58,319 --> 00:58:59,819

great scene and a great song too.

:

00:59:00,869 --> 00:59:01,829

that just made it fun too.

:

00:59:01,859 --> 00:59:06,209

So yeah, definitely a great, you know,

and a good moment for like the, the

:

00:59:06,209 --> 00:59:10,079

parents' characters and which again, they

could have done more stuff with that too.

:

00:59:10,694 --> 00:59:11,234

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

00:59:12,539 --> 00:59:14,744

Amy Lewis: yeah, it's

it's an interesting movie.

:

00:59:15,659 --> 00:59:19,199

Katie: One other que again, there's a

lot of questions that I, you know, again,

:

00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:21,899

I'm in my forties watching this movie

:

00:59:22,064 --> 00:59:22,454

Amy Lewis: Same.

:

00:59:22,469 --> 00:59:25,549

Katie: night after 30 years,

and I'm like, okay, I don't

:

00:59:25,549 --> 00:59:26,989

know anything about dentures,

:

00:59:27,019 --> 00:59:27,439

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

00:59:27,469 --> 00:59:28,249

Katie: but Mr.

:

00:59:28,249 --> 00:59:31,879

Wilson has dentures, but

there's gold teeth in them.

:

00:59:32,659 --> 00:59:33,289

Is that a thing?

:

00:59:33,289 --> 00:59:35,359

Why would there be gold teeth in dentures?

:

00:59:35,764 --> 00:59:37,774

Amy Lewis: That I have no idea.

:

00:59:37,884 --> 00:59:43,224

Unless he had, like his real, originally

had his teeth, like a tooth replaced with

:

00:59:43,224 --> 00:59:46,104

a gold tooth and then wanted it salvaged

:

00:59:46,224 --> 00:59:47,064

Katie: To match.

:

00:59:48,804 --> 00:59:48,984

I don't

:

00:59:48,984 --> 00:59:49,104

know.

:

00:59:49,104 --> 00:59:52,704

anybody know anything about, are

there any dentists out there that

:

00:59:52,734 --> 00:59:57,324

can fill me in on, on what the story

is with gold teeth in dentures?

:

00:59:57,459 --> 00:59:57,749

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

00:59:57,839 --> 00:59:58,639

Katie: that would be a thing?

:

00:59:58,769 --> 00:59:59,189

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

01:00:00,849 --> 01:00:02,334

Yeah, no idea.

:

01:00:02,334 --> 01:00:05,664

But I mean, there's a lot of

unknowns and, you know, why did

:

01:00:05,664 --> 01:00:08,874

he have chiclets locked in a safe

:

01:00:10,374 --> 01:00:11,124

Katie: Were they

:

01:00:11,604 --> 01:00:11,844

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

01:00:11,844 --> 01:00:14,994

He had a run home and, or was it

in a safe, like a sec, like a bank

:

01:00:15,024 --> 01:00:16,314

or like a piggy bank or some kind

:

01:00:16,314 --> 01:00:17,994

Katie: Yeah, yeah,

:

01:00:18,234 --> 01:00:19,134

Amy Lewis: box or something.

:

01:00:19,134 --> 01:00:19,254

It's

:

01:00:19,404 --> 01:00:19,674

Katie: yeah.

:

01:00:19,674 --> 01:00:20,874

It was the special box.

:

01:00:20,874 --> 01:00:21,234

Yep.

:

01:00:21,384 --> 01:00:24,744

Amy Lewis: auto, like that's what you

put in there was like Chiclets really.

:

01:00:24,834 --> 01:00:25,464

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:00:25,914 --> 01:00:29,034

Amy Lewis: But I don't, I don't

know why that, yeah, gold teeth.

:

01:00:29,034 --> 01:00:33,744

I mean, maybe it was just, you know, they

were something and they'd wanna throw

:

01:00:33,744 --> 01:00:35,514

them out or, you know, I don't know.

:

01:00:36,354 --> 01:00:36,834

That's a,

:

01:00:36,924 --> 01:00:39,984

Katie: The the things that come to mind

when I'm watching a movie nowadays.

:

01:00:40,044 --> 01:00:40,344

Hmm,

:

01:00:40,464 --> 01:00:43,284

Amy Lewis: There's probably some kind

of symbolism though, I'm sure, to it.

:

01:00:43,314 --> 01:00:46,364

'cause you know, John Hughes always

threw little, you know, things in a

:

01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:47,179

Katie: you're right,

:

01:00:48,224 --> 01:00:48,524

Amy Lewis: some

:

01:00:48,524 --> 01:00:49,274

reason for it.

:

01:00:49,514 --> 01:00:50,234

There has to be.

:

01:00:50,264 --> 01:00:51,489

'cause that's too bizarre.

:

01:00:52,389 --> 01:00:52,929

Katie: you're right.

:

01:00:53,264 --> 01:00:57,014

And speaking of which, so John Hughes

is, is famous for kind of reusing

:

01:00:57,014 --> 01:01:00,864

actors and there's, you know, Ben

Stein who is in Ferris Bueller's

:

01:01:00,864 --> 01:01:02,184

Day off that we just covered.

:

01:01:02,399 --> 01:01:02,479

Amy Lewis: Hmm

:

01:01:02,694 --> 01:01:05,814

Katie: I didn't notice him, but I

saw that he was on the cast list.

:

01:01:05,814 --> 01:01:09,964

He like was one of their,

was it the mom's boss?

:

01:01:10,024 --> 01:01:11,974

Like he was in the workplace?

:

01:01:12,184 --> 01:01:13,894

Must have been very brief moment.

:

01:01:13,894 --> 01:01:15,934

'cause I missed it and then I just decided

:

01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:16,729

mm-hmm.

:

01:01:16,864 --> 01:01:18,244

Amy Lewis: no, that's interesting.

:

01:01:18,724 --> 01:01:19,114

Yeah.

:

01:01:20,764 --> 01:01:21,094

Who know?

:

01:01:21,094 --> 01:01:21,424

Yeah.

:

01:01:21,424 --> 01:01:22,714

That's, that is a mystery.

:

01:01:22,774 --> 01:01:23,104

Yeah.

:

01:01:23,704 --> 01:01:23,994

Katie: Okay.

:

01:01:23,999 --> 01:01:28,039

And then similarly, he's kind of known

for having either scenes while the credits

:

01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:29,539

are rolling or post credited scenes.

:

01:01:29,539 --> 01:01:32,659

There wasn't any post credited

scene, but there was, the main work

:

01:01:32,659 --> 01:01:37,169

lady got her come up and by Dennis

while the credits were rolling.

:

01:01:37,184 --> 01:01:37,604

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

01:01:37,604 --> 01:01:40,184

Which is another thing I

totally, totally forgot about.

:

01:01:40,649 --> 01:01:41,279

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:01:41,384 --> 01:01:41,564

Amy Lewis: was,

:

01:01:41,614 --> 01:01:45,064

Weird a weird, a weird ending.

:

01:01:45,124 --> 01:01:45,844

After all that, which

:

01:01:46,099 --> 01:01:46,864

Katie: It was, wasn't it?

:

01:01:47,164 --> 01:01:50,254

Amy Lewis: which again is like not, you

know, Dennis's whole thing is not about

:

01:01:50,254 --> 01:01:53,654

like revenge or you know, intentionally

you know, messing with somebody,

:

01:01:53,654 --> 01:01:57,824

you know, I, I just, again, it goes

against the, the whole thing, you know?

:

01:01:58,484 --> 01:01:58,774

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:01:58,999 --> 01:02:01,989

It, it's like he acts, it's like

he, he's, I mean, I'm sure he

:

01:02:01,989 --> 01:02:03,369

would be diagnosed with something.

:

01:02:03,369 --> 01:02:04,839

Not like he just can't help himself.

:

01:02:04,839 --> 01:02:07,359

He, he, he's, nothing is ill intent.

:

01:02:07,749 --> 01:02:08,019

Amy Lewis: right.

:

01:02:08,288 --> 01:02:11,739

Katie: not ill intentioned,

but a, he just, he just causes

:

01:02:11,739 --> 01:02:12,999

chaos everywhere he goes.

:

01:02:12,999 --> 01:02:13,299

Amy Lewis: Yep.

:

01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:13,629

S

:

01:02:13,699 --> 01:02:14,809

severe A DHD or

:

01:02:15,049 --> 01:02:15,288

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:02:15,529 --> 01:02:16,399

Mm-hmm.

:

01:02:16,459 --> 01:02:16,609

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

01:02:17,899 --> 01:02:18,229

Yep.

:

01:02:18,499 --> 01:02:23,119

Katie: Now, did you babysit when you

were, you know, a teen or a preteen?

:

01:02:23,413 --> 01:02:24,224

Amy Lewis: I did a little bit.

:

01:02:24,224 --> 01:02:27,314

I wouldn't say that that

was my favorite job to do.

:

01:02:27,344 --> 01:02:30,704

That was more of like my, my sister

was really into, into babysitting

:

01:02:30,734 --> 01:02:35,174

and would buy babysitters club

books with her babysitting money.

:

01:02:35,609 --> 01:02:35,819

Katie: Oh,

:

01:02:36,284 --> 01:02:36,674

Amy Lewis: who?

:

01:02:37,019 --> 01:02:37,919

Katie: I love that.

:

01:02:38,474 --> 01:02:39,224

Amy Lewis: yeah, I did.

:

01:02:39,224 --> 01:02:41,324

I mean, I did kind of here and

there a little bit, but I was

:

01:02:41,324 --> 01:02:44,264

not big into I was not, yeah.

:

01:02:44,264 --> 01:02:46,394

That was, I was kinda like

not cut out for babysitting.

:

01:02:46,574 --> 01:02:46,934

No.

:

01:02:47,849 --> 01:02:50,609

Katie: And watching this made,

it totally reminded me why I

:

01:02:50,609 --> 01:02:53,219

always, I hated babysitting.

:

01:02:53,444 --> 01:02:53,834

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:02:54,269 --> 01:02:55,469

Katie: like I was, I.

:

01:02:56,339 --> 01:02:59,999

Walter Math, like I think since

birth, I have been a grumpy

:

01:02:59,999 --> 01:03:02,879

old man and I'm an annoyed by

:

01:03:04,139 --> 01:03:08,639

the innocent, but annoying

nature of children.

:

01:03:08,654 --> 01:03:08,924

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:03:08,989 --> 01:03:09,349

To that.

:

01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:09,469

You

:

01:03:09,469 --> 01:03:09,559

know

:

01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:12,099

what, and I think, I think that's

good to know that honestly, like

:

01:03:12,099 --> 01:03:13,919

if that's not your thing and yeah.

:

01:03:13,949 --> 01:03:15,734

Katie: so I did not have children because

:

01:03:16,129 --> 01:03:16,369

I did.

:

01:03:16,439 --> 01:03:16,729

Yeah.

:

01:03:16,809 --> 01:03:17,609

I purposely, yeah.

:

01:03:17,788 --> 01:03:18,329

Amy Lewis: I get it.

:

01:03:18,389 --> 01:03:18,839

Yeah.

:

01:03:19,139 --> 01:03:19,889

Totally makes sense.

:

01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:23,849

Yeah, I, I was not cut out for

babysitting or, you know, I remember

:

01:03:23,849 --> 01:03:28,209

there was like one house at my sister

and another friend of mine, like always

:

01:03:28,209 --> 01:03:32,109

kind of ended up sort of randomly

babysitting at, and their house was

:

01:03:32,259 --> 01:03:35,529

a mess and it like, drove us insane.

:

01:03:35,969 --> 01:03:38,579

And like all you wanted to do when

you were there was just like clean

:

01:03:38,579 --> 01:03:39,779

the crap out of the house because

:

01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:39,949

Katie: Hmm.

:

01:03:39,989 --> 01:03:40,439

Amy Lewis: so

:

01:03:40,829 --> 01:03:41,339

messy.

:

01:03:41,339 --> 01:03:42,989

And it's like, how does

this family live like this?

:

01:03:42,989 --> 01:03:45,329

So it's like you get an

insight into people's lives

:

01:03:45,329 --> 01:03:46,769

that you don't need when you

:

01:03:47,084 --> 01:03:48,794

Katie: Great point.

:

01:03:49,124 --> 01:03:50,114

Really good point.

:

01:03:50,354 --> 01:03:53,504

The only thing I liked about it

was like the parents would all

:

01:03:53,534 --> 01:03:56,024

sometimes order us pizza for dinner.

:

01:03:56,644 --> 01:03:56,934

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:03:57,074 --> 01:03:59,024

Katie: It's like, that was,

that was the bonus for me.

:

01:03:59,054 --> 01:03:59,684

But yeah, same.

:

01:03:59,684 --> 01:04:02,864

My sisters, I have two older

sisters and they were both super

:

01:04:02,864 --> 01:04:07,004

into babysitting and they never

understood why I didn't like it.

:

01:04:07,334 --> 01:04:09,734

And now that they know me and as an

adult, they're like, yeah, I get it.

:

01:04:10,154 --> 01:04:11,354

Your kids are not your,

:

01:04:11,714 --> 01:04:12,404

your jam.

:

01:04:12,464 --> 01:04:12,854

Amy Lewis: No.

:

01:04:12,854 --> 01:04:16,754

And I think at that age too, to

like, to have the forethought

:

01:04:16,754 --> 01:04:19,034

or whatever, to be like, okay,

I'm gonna plan these activities.

:

01:04:19,034 --> 01:04:21,163

I wouldn't, I didn't

think like that, you know,

:

01:04:21,314 --> 01:04:21,824

Katie: Hmm.

:

01:04:21,913 --> 01:04:22,304

Amy Lewis: just not

:

01:04:22,304 --> 01:04:26,894

how my brain worked as a, you know, and I

think, and you know, our age too, like our

:

01:04:26,894 --> 01:04:31,264

generation, you know, we were babysitting

it at 10, 11, 12 years old, which I

:

01:04:31,294 --> 01:04:31,714

Katie: Yep.

:

01:04:32,284 --> 01:04:33,994

Amy Lewis: horrified to have a

:

01:04:34,054 --> 01:04:35,044

Katie: So different now.

:

01:04:35,224 --> 01:04:36,814

Amy Lewis: or a 12-year-old, no

:

01:04:37,204 --> 01:04:37,624

Katie: Babysit.

:

01:04:37,984 --> 01:04:38,104

Yeah.

:

01:04:38,824 --> 01:04:38,974

Amy Lewis: you

:

01:04:38,974 --> 01:04:41,974

know, on God's green earth, would

I have a 12-year-old come over here

:

01:04:41,974 --> 01:04:43,804

to babysit my not gonna happen.

:

01:04:44,374 --> 01:04:47,624

But yeah, I just did not have the

that skill set to think, oh, we're

:

01:04:47,624 --> 01:04:50,114

gonna need okay, three hours,

so we're gonna need like dinner.

:

01:04:50,114 --> 01:04:51,284

And we're, I, I did not think like that.

:

01:04:51,284 --> 01:04:52,294

It's just what do I do?

:

01:04:52,304 --> 01:04:53,264

You know, no,

:

01:04:53,534 --> 01:04:55,214

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:55,569

Mm-hmm.

:

01:04:56,444 --> 01:04:58,874

Well, neither is neither was Mr.

:

01:04:58,874 --> 01:05:02,054

Wilson because on the rainy day

when, when Dennis has to stay

:

01:05:02,054 --> 01:05:03,554

inside, he can't go outside and

:

01:05:03,869 --> 01:05:04,069

Amy Lewis: Yeah,

:

01:05:04,184 --> 01:05:06,014

Katie: havoc on the forest or whatnot.

:

01:05:06,314 --> 01:05:09,974

He just, he doesn't know

how to deal with that.

:

01:05:10,004 --> 01:05:13,074

Like he cannot cons contain his boredom.

:

01:05:13,074 --> 01:05:15,104

And he's basically like

any kid, will you play?

:

01:05:15,104 --> 01:05:15,734

I can't remember.

:

01:05:15,734 --> 01:05:19,474

Will you he wants to play some game

or, I can't remember what he asked Mr.

:

01:05:19,624 --> 01:05:21,304

Amy Lewis: and robbers

or something like that.

:

01:05:21,454 --> 01:05:21,844

Katie: And Mr.

:

01:05:21,844 --> 01:05:23,434

Wilson's no, I'm an adult.

:

01:05:23,434 --> 01:05:27,304

I'm Finicking here with

my, my coin collection.

:

01:05:28,204 --> 01:05:28,624

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

01:05:28,744 --> 01:05:29,224

Well, here's my

:

01:05:29,224 --> 01:05:29,554

question

:

01:05:29,554 --> 01:05:33,184

that, because I think I, this is one

of those moments where I didn't know

:

01:05:33,184 --> 01:05:38,134

what meant until like way later when

you saw this movie and he and Mr.

:

01:05:38,134 --> 01:05:41,044

Wilson kept saying, I need the

gd, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

:

01:05:41,044 --> 01:05:41,344

Did you

:

01:05:41,494 --> 01:05:42,034

Katie: Gd,

:

01:05:42,844 --> 01:05:42,994

Amy Lewis: I

:

01:05:43,084 --> 01:05:43,894

Katie: probably not.

:

01:05:44,584 --> 01:05:45,724

Amy Lewis: I think I

remember watching this kid.

:

01:05:45,724 --> 01:05:47,163

I'm like, he keeps saying gd.

:

01:05:47,163 --> 01:05:48,434

Does he mean is that like a brand?

:

01:05:48,434 --> 01:05:51,794

Do they own a bunch of

things and the brand is gd?

:

01:05:51,854 --> 01:05:52,874

What does that mean?

:

01:05:53,294 --> 01:05:56,564

And then I, then I think I watched

it again as, I don't know when maybe.

:

01:05:57,299 --> 01:05:57,839

10 years ago.

:

01:05:57,839 --> 01:05:59,279

I'm like, oh my God.

:

01:05:59,279 --> 01:06:00,339

He means God damn.

:

01:06:01,329 --> 01:06:02,829

Which I did, did not pick up on

:

01:06:03,169 --> 01:06:03,889

Katie: Good point.

:

01:06:03,889 --> 01:06:07,939

I probably didn't either, but I

did note it 'cause he does it a co

:

01:06:08,029 --> 01:06:11,269

Like last night when I watched it,

I did note it 'cause it's PG movie.

:

01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:15,859

And also he's, you know, that type

of a man probably doesn't swear.

:

01:06:15,889 --> 01:06:16,239

Amy Lewis: Right.

:

01:06:16,489 --> 01:06:17,809

Katie: so yeah, the

:

01:06:18,649 --> 01:06:19,099

I,

:

01:06:19,413 --> 01:06:19,714

Amy Lewis: Where are the

:

01:06:19,909 --> 01:06:19,969

I,

:

01:06:19,969 --> 01:06:22,689

was like, gd, Gar is that the brand

name of is there a company called

:

01:06:22,689 --> 01:06:24,399

GD and they make garden lanterns?

:

01:06:24,399 --> 01:06:24,819

Okay.

:

01:06:24,979 --> 01:06:27,829

That's how naive I was

which is I guess good,

:

01:06:27,909 --> 01:06:28,329

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:06:29,299 --> 01:06:29,389

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

01:06:29,764 --> 01:06:34,054

Katie: So I don't think this will

surprise you given what we all

:

01:06:34,054 --> 01:06:38,864

talk, what we just talked about

with Hank Chu's or original story,

:

01:06:39,209 --> 01:06:39,719

Amy Lewis: Yeah,

:

01:06:39,913 --> 01:06:40,274

Katie: John Hughes.

:

01:06:40,274 --> 01:06:43,784

Did you see that he never watched

a single episode of the show?

:

01:06:45,299 --> 01:06:45,809

Amy Lewis: no,

:

01:06:46,274 --> 01:06:49,454

Katie: He drew his inspiration

only from the comic strip.

:

01:06:49,663 --> 01:06:51,734

He never saw the TV show.

:

01:06:53,038 --> 01:06:53,879

Amy Lewis: I need to leave.

:

01:06:54,288 --> 01:06:54,709

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:06:54,899 --> 01:06:55,109

Amy Lewis: that

:

01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:56,009

is Wow.

:

01:06:56,534 --> 01:06:58,724

Katie: Well, it makes

sense though, right now.

:

01:06:58,859 --> 01:06:59,459

Amy Lewis: that's true.

:

01:06:59,729 --> 01:07:03,119

I guess I would just want to, I

mean, again, and what do I know?

:

01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:04,439

I'm just like a, you know what I mean?

:

01:07:04,439 --> 01:07:07,589

I don't know anything about the,

the, the movie biz, but I would've

:

01:07:07,589 --> 01:07:11,849

thought that he'd, and so iconic,

you know, and of course I'm

:

01:07:11,849 --> 01:07:13,409

biased, but Yolks is a huge fan.

:

01:07:13,409 --> 01:07:15,449

But how would you not wanna watch that?

:

01:07:15,449 --> 01:07:17,939

It's not like, it's like torture

to watch it or something.

:

01:07:17,939 --> 01:07:22,949

I mean, it's, out of all things from

that era, I mean, it's a pretty, you

:

01:07:22,949 --> 01:07:25,139

know, tolerable funny show to watch.

:

01:07:25,139 --> 01:07:27,479

I mean, so that's, that's surprising.

:

01:07:27,869 --> 01:07:28,079

But

:

01:07:28,219 --> 01:07:28,538

Katie: I know.

:

01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:28,709

Amy Lewis: a

:

01:07:28,874 --> 01:07:31,724

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:34,199

Amy Lewis: so I guess on the one

hand I could kind of see it too.

:

01:07:34,484 --> 01:07:34,994

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:07:34,994 --> 01:07:37,724

And the more I'm kind of

getting to know him through

:

01:07:37,724 --> 01:07:39,554

this season, I think he can, I.

:

01:07:40,769 --> 01:07:43,529

In some ways be difficult to work with.

:

01:07:43,529 --> 01:07:47,909

There was another director I think

that they had on board that they

:

01:07:47,909 --> 01:07:51,829

ended up replacing before Nick Castle

came on board because of creative

:

01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:53,788

differences with John Hughes.

:

01:07:53,788 --> 01:07:56,129

I mean, that could mean a number

of different things, but but yeah,

:

01:07:56,129 --> 01:08:01,169

he only drew inspiration from the

actual comic strip and not the show.

:

01:08:01,564 --> 01:08:02,394

Amy Lewis: Which again,

:

01:08:04,439 --> 01:08:10,139

how did that translate into

this POS, you know what I mean?

:

01:08:10,169 --> 01:08:15,569

Katie: Yeah, he was, I mean, I, I

guess I'm, you know, all of the, just

:

01:08:15,569 --> 01:08:20,099

little, you know, he's like a bull

in a China shop and is annoying his

:

01:08:20,099 --> 01:08:25,919

neighbor, but then the Switchblades

Sam thing is the outta left field bit.

:

01:08:27,238 --> 01:08:31,349

Amy Lewis: Whoever, whoever really

took the lead on switchblade Sam

:

01:08:32,379 --> 01:08:35,379

needs to, I don't know, be punished.

:

01:08:35,379 --> 01:08:39,249

And I don't know what that looks

like, but that was a big mistake.

:

01:08:39,249 --> 01:08:39,309

I.

:

01:08:39,939 --> 01:08:42,459

Katie: Well, not to be morbid,

but I think that did happen.

:

01:08:42,459 --> 01:08:45,068

'cause John Hughes died and I'm

pretty sure he was the one that was

:

01:08:45,068 --> 01:08:47,529

like, Hmm, I'm gonna write him in.

:

01:08:47,559 --> 01:08:50,019

Because he originally, you

know, like we talked about,

:

01:08:50,019 --> 01:08:51,609

he wanted to be in home alone.

:

01:08:52,029 --> 01:08:52,538

Yeah.

:

01:08:52,629 --> 01:08:53,169

Amy Lewis: It's true.

:

01:08:53,349 --> 01:08:53,889

That's what

:

01:08:54,189 --> 01:08:54,519

it caused.

:

01:08:54,519 --> 01:08:54,609

He

:

01:08:54,609 --> 01:08:57,698

thought, he thought was

reflecting on his career and

:

01:08:57,698 --> 01:08:58,059

then

:

01:08:58,179 --> 01:09:02,499

thought about oh, pretty pink and

16 candles and such, plate salmon.

:

01:09:02,499 --> 01:09:04,959

And that's just when he, that's

when the heart attack happened.

:

01:09:05,254 --> 01:09:06,394

Katie: It, yep, indeed.

:

01:09:06,999 --> 01:09:07,238

Amy Lewis: Yep.

:

01:09:07,238 --> 01:09:08,288

Sorry, too sorry.

:

01:09:08,288 --> 01:09:09,068

Too, too

:

01:09:09,154 --> 01:09:09,693

Katie: Too soon.

:

01:09:10,274 --> 01:09:10,814

Too soon.

:

01:09:11,019 --> 01:09:11,169

Amy Lewis: Too

:

01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:11,644

Sorry.

:

01:09:11,644 --> 01:09:12,243

Not Sorry.

:

01:09:12,514 --> 01:09:12,783

No,

:

01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:13,929

I've got,

:

01:09:13,929 --> 01:09:14,139

I have

:

01:09:14,139 --> 01:09:14,738

grief myself.

:

01:09:14,738 --> 01:09:17,078

I deal with grief through

having a dark sense of humor.

:

01:09:17,144 --> 01:09:17,774

Katie: There you go.

:

01:09:18,224 --> 01:09:18,814

There you go.

:

01:09:18,849 --> 01:09:19,269

Amy Lewis: anybody.

:

01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:20,049

That's how I cope,

:

01:09:20,109 --> 01:09:21,009

Katie: No, no, no, no.

:

01:09:21,219 --> 01:09:25,059

Nobody, I don't think the listeners

of, of retro easily offended people.

:

01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:25,479

Amy Lewis: Oh, good.

:

01:09:25,658 --> 01:09:29,709

Katie: So Warner Brothers, I talked

about, or I brought up earlier and

:

01:09:29,709 --> 01:09:34,118

I wanted to come back to it 'cause I

read, this was their first film Warner

:

01:09:34,118 --> 01:09:38,109

Brothers Family Entertainment's,

inaugural film, first of five films

:

01:09:38,109 --> 01:09:42,309

that the, that particular division

released in 93, the Family Edition,

:

01:09:42,698 --> 01:09:42,779

Amy Lewis: Hmm.

:

01:09:43,734 --> 01:09:43,943

Ouch.

:

01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:50,874

Katie: free Willie Secret Garden, the

Nutcracker and Batman Mask of the Fantasm,

:

01:09:52,019 --> 01:09:53,604

Amy Lewis: I do not remember that at all.

:

01:09:53,828 --> 01:09:54,399

Katie: I don't either.

:

01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:55,689

And then and then Dennis the Menna.

:

01:09:55,689 --> 01:10:00,179

So that was, those were the five

movies that the family entertainment

:

01:10:00,929 --> 01:10:02,249

portion of Warner Brothers.

:

01:10:02,579 --> 01:10:07,079

And it was also the first film where they

introduced the version where the logo is

:

01:10:07,079 --> 01:10:09,869

with Bugs Bunny leaning against the w.

:

01:10:10,214 --> 01:10:10,724

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

01:10:11,954 --> 01:10:12,704

My goodness.

:

01:10:13,094 --> 01:10:13,784

Yeah, I remember this.

:

01:10:13,844 --> 01:10:19,244

The, I, I, I, I think I saw the secret

garden in theaters and probably saw

:

01:10:19,244 --> 01:10:21,224

free Willie also in the theater.

:

01:10:21,884 --> 01:10:22,804

And also.

:

01:10:23,764 --> 01:10:27,784

to recreate the scene where the

whale jumps over the kid with a pool

:

01:10:27,784 --> 01:10:29,254

toy, but that's for another time.

:

01:10:29,254 --> 01:10:29,494

But

:

01:10:29,544 --> 01:10:34,494

Katie: Wait, were you the, were you,

who were you in this recreation?

:

01:10:34,704 --> 01:10:35,274

The whale?

:

01:10:36,974 --> 01:10:38,624

Amy Lewis: no I Wow.

:

01:10:38,684 --> 01:10:39,254

No I'm kidding.

:

01:10:39,474 --> 01:10:39,714

No.

:

01:10:39,818 --> 01:10:40,179

Katie: No, I didn't

:

01:10:40,584 --> 01:10:40,855

Amy Lewis: No, I

:

01:10:41,009 --> 01:10:41,129

know.

:

01:10:41,134 --> 01:10:41,394

I know.

:

01:10:41,394 --> 01:10:41,814

I'm kidding.

:

01:10:41,814 --> 01:10:42,174

I'm kidding.

:

01:10:42,474 --> 01:10:42,714

No.

:

01:10:42,714 --> 01:10:45,894

I was one of the people I

think, who was like chucking the

:

01:10:46,004 --> 01:10:46,224

Katie: to

:

01:10:47,193 --> 01:10:49,954

Amy Lewis: Whale toy over the

girl who had her hand out, like

:

01:10:50,019 --> 01:10:50,469

Katie: Okay,

:

01:10:50,574 --> 01:10:52,443

Amy Lewis: and thinking

of Michael Jackson song.

:

01:10:52,443 --> 01:10:52,714

So,

:

01:10:53,809 --> 01:10:54,709

Katie: that's right.

:

01:10:55,294 --> 01:10:55,624

Amy Lewis: but I

:

01:10:55,664 --> 01:10:55,884

Katie: Oh,

:

01:10:56,464 --> 01:10:57,544

Amy Lewis: yeah, I mean, on the

:

01:10:57,544 --> 01:10:58,074

Katie: free will.

:

01:10:58,234 --> 01:11:00,934

Amy Lewis: tier of all the, you

know, those five movies, I mean, this

:

01:11:03,424 --> 01:11:05,014

pretty low and

:

01:11:05,119 --> 01:11:05,689

Katie: Yeah, I don't,

:

01:11:05,704 --> 01:11:05,974

Amy Lewis: from a

:

01:11:05,974 --> 01:11:06,904

true diehard, you know,

:

01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:10,579

Katie: yeah, that's a, I I'm interested

that, I mean, I guess it's very

:

01:11:10,579 --> 01:11:13,489

interesting for me to hear that from

you, but I guess because you hold

:

01:11:13,489 --> 01:11:16,489

it so dear and this fell so short

:

01:11:16,594 --> 01:11:16,984

Amy Lewis: Mm.

:

01:11:17,029 --> 01:11:17,599

Katie: and Yeah.

:

01:11:17,599 --> 01:11:19,219

I can see why you have feelings.

:

01:11:19,354 --> 01:11:19,774

Mm-hmm.

:

01:11:20,704 --> 01:11:22,834

Amy Lewis: You know, it's like when

the, not that I don't know anything

:

01:11:22,834 --> 01:11:26,734

about Star Wars, but you know, when

so's like the Phantom Menace, I think

:

01:11:26,734 --> 01:11:28,114

people got really mad about those.

:

01:11:28,144 --> 01:11:30,904

'cause they weren't like the

original movies or something.

:

01:11:30,904 --> 01:11:31,684

You know, this is on the

:

01:11:31,759 --> 01:11:31,849

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:11:31,924 --> 01:11:32,314

Amy Lewis: level as

:

01:11:32,314 --> 01:11:32,644

that.

:

01:11:33,079 --> 01:11:33,529

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:11:33,859 --> 01:11:34,279

Yeah.

:

01:11:35,269 --> 01:11:39,499

I, I, I'm glad that there's another

non Star Wars person because I,

:

01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:42,829

sometimes I feel like I'm like

the only person on the planet,

:

01:11:42,964 --> 01:11:43,354

Amy Lewis: Mm.

:

01:11:44,074 --> 01:11:44,374

I, I,

:

01:11:44,374 --> 01:11:47,193

think for me it's it's like, it has

to do with, I'm trying to remember

:

01:11:47,193 --> 01:11:51,394

who I was talking to about this,

but, the whole like fantasy movie

:

01:11:51,394 --> 01:11:54,454

thing, I just can't, I cannot follow.

:

01:11:54,454 --> 01:11:56,464

It's like you don't understand the movie.

:

01:11:56,464 --> 01:12:00,154

They have to go through the fifth

door and get the book and put it

:

01:12:00,154 --> 01:12:02,404

on the, on the number on the shelf.

:

01:12:02,404 --> 01:12:07,684

That's by the It's like, I

don't want to hear anymore.

:

01:12:08,509 --> 01:12:10,339

I don't wanna see that movie.

:

01:12:10,339 --> 01:12:11,269

I don't wanna read that book.

:

01:12:11,269 --> 01:12:12,318

That sounds terrible.

:

01:12:12,499 --> 01:12:12,979

I do

:

01:12:13,009 --> 01:12:13,809

Katie: I, oh my God.

:

01:12:13,869 --> 01:12:14,089

Amy,

:

01:12:14,329 --> 01:12:15,318

Amy Lewis: at all.

:

01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:15,679

It

:

01:12:15,879 --> 01:12:16,169

Katie: same

:

01:12:16,369 --> 01:12:17,568

Amy Lewis: makes my, it makes my,

:

01:12:17,568 --> 01:12:19,909

blood boil at how much I can't stand it.

:

01:12:20,249 --> 01:12:20,919

Katie: Harry Potter.

:

01:12:20,949 --> 01:12:21,679

Lord of the Rings.

:

01:12:21,859 --> 01:12:22,839

No thank you.

:

01:12:23,139 --> 01:12:24,664

No, desire at all

:

01:12:24,799 --> 01:12:28,219

Amy Lewis: No, my youngest son is obsessed

with Harry Potter, which is wonderful.

:

01:12:28,609 --> 01:12:31,639

I can't stand those movies at all.

:

01:12:31,699 --> 01:12:34,369

And I'm sure, you know,

people are going to

:

01:12:35,044 --> 01:12:35,945

Katie: screaming at us right now,

:

01:12:35,989 --> 01:12:36,379

Amy Lewis: Throw their

:

01:12:36,389 --> 01:12:36,679

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:12:36,919 --> 01:12:39,649

Amy Lewis: like out the oncoming

traffic 'cause they're so angry.

:

01:12:39,649 --> 01:12:42,439

But I can't follow that stuff at all.

:

01:12:42,489 --> 01:12:43,899

No, I'm not interested.

:

01:12:43,949 --> 01:12:47,609

Oh, but you didn't, you didn't read the,

the fourth book where the, where the

:

01:12:47,609 --> 01:12:49,919

owl comes and then it drops the notes.

:

01:12:49,919 --> 01:12:55,049

I know that sounds horrible, but

did you like watch that movie?

:

01:12:55,049 --> 01:12:56,068

That was really funny.

:

01:12:56,129 --> 01:12:56,459

Or did

:

01:12:56,594 --> 01:12:57,104

Katie: Agreed.

:

01:12:57,299 --> 01:12:57,568

Amy Lewis: it's like

:

01:12:57,584 --> 01:12:57,914

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:12:58,019 --> 01:13:01,019

Amy Lewis: learn something or laugh and

if that doesn't happen, then I'm out.

:

01:13:02,174 --> 01:13:03,014

Katie: I'm with you.

:

01:13:03,314 --> 01:13:06,314

I think we have very similar taste

and I, and that's why I think I,

:

01:13:06,374 --> 01:13:08,474

your show resonates with me so much.

:

01:13:08,574 --> 01:13:09,024

Amy Lewis: Likewise,

:

01:13:10,209 --> 01:13:11,318

Katie: well the, speaking of the,

:

01:13:11,394 --> 01:13:12,144

Amy Lewis: tri, you know, you do the,

:

01:13:12,369 --> 01:13:12,579

Katie: yeah,

:

01:13:12,654 --> 01:13:13,014

Amy Lewis: they're like,

:

01:13:13,193 --> 01:13:13,524

yeah,

:

01:13:13,614 --> 01:13:14,424

stick to the facts.

:

01:13:14,424 --> 01:13:18,034

People, not the oh, look at the ma,

they got to the second level of the map.

:

01:13:18,034 --> 01:13:19,954

It's like, no, no,

:

01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:23,249

Katie: I think that's why I didn't it

the one Kurt Russell movie that I did

:

01:13:23,249 --> 01:13:24,839

not like from last season, Stargate.

:

01:13:25,399 --> 01:13:25,479

Amy Lewis: Hmm.

:

01:13:25,484 --> 01:13:25,574

Mm-hmm.

:

01:13:26,024 --> 01:13:26,984

Katie: Was like weird.

:

01:13:27,404 --> 01:13:27,674

Amy Lewis: haven't

:

01:13:27,734 --> 01:13:27,943

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:13:27,943 --> 01:13:29,054

You wouldn't, you would hate it.

:

01:13:29,054 --> 01:13:30,164

I did not like it at all.

:

01:13:30,164 --> 01:13:33,884

I was like, why you, how can you

screw up Kurt Russell plus Egypt?

:

01:13:34,304 --> 01:13:36,074

Add some fantasy weirdness to it.

:

01:13:36,074 --> 01:13:37,424

That's how mm-hmm.

:

01:13:37,474 --> 01:13:37,574

Amy Lewis: mm-hmm.

:

01:13:38,264 --> 01:13:38,443

Yep.

:

01:13:38,504 --> 01:13:41,714

The only like fantasy movie I feel

like I can tolerate is Labyrinth.

:

01:13:43,334 --> 01:13:46,664

Katie: You know, there are exceptions

to all of my, I I feel like I'm like

:

01:13:46,664 --> 01:13:48,584

such an, I really am a grumpy old man.

:

01:13:48,584 --> 01:13:50,384

'cause there's so many

things that I dislike.

:

01:13:50,454 --> 01:13:52,424

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

01:13:52,574 --> 01:13:55,604

Katie: there are exceptions

to that same, I also love

:

01:13:55,714 --> 01:13:56,254

labyrinth,

:

01:13:56,434 --> 01:13:56,794

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

01:13:57,064 --> 01:13:58,324

Katie: yeah, it's an

exception to the rule.

:

01:13:58,354 --> 01:13:58,594

Mm-hmm.

:

01:13:58,594 --> 01:13:58,984

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

01:13:59,344 --> 01:14:00,184

Yeah, no, I agree.

:

01:14:00,184 --> 01:14:03,334

And I, we went, I remember going

to the movie theater to see the

:

01:14:03,334 --> 01:14:08,014

first, the whole like, mocking bird,

mocking Jay, what is that series?

:

01:14:08,134 --> 01:14:08,524

The, I'm

:

01:14:08,609 --> 01:14:08,829

Katie: Oh,

:

01:14:08,914 --> 01:14:09,334

Amy Lewis: the first

:

01:14:09,334 --> 01:14:09,544

book

:

01:14:09,544 --> 01:14:09,874

is.

:

01:14:10,389 --> 01:14:10,609

Katie: Oh,

:

01:14:10,684 --> 01:14:11,193

yeah.

:

01:14:11,193 --> 01:14:11,554

With

:

01:14:11,664 --> 01:14:12,264

Amy Lewis: can't read it from

:

01:14:12,414 --> 01:14:13,943

Katie: the Hunger Games, I wanna say.

:

01:14:14,244 --> 01:14:14,784

Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:14,814 --> 01:14:15,474

Amy Lewis: The Hunger Games.

:

01:14:16,193 --> 01:14:19,794

never read the books, heard the

concept, so that I said, that sounds

:

01:14:19,794 --> 01:14:24,804

terrible, somehow was to go see the

movie in the first five minutes.

:

01:14:24,804 --> 01:14:28,224

I knew that I was gonna hate that

movie, and I did, and I sat there

:

01:14:28,224 --> 01:14:32,754

for like however long that movie

was, which was way too long.

:

01:14:33,474 --> 01:14:33,834

Anything

:

01:14:33,939 --> 01:14:35,199

Katie: do tend to run long.

:

01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:35,499

Yeah.

:

01:14:35,499 --> 01:14:35,949

Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:36,204 --> 01:14:38,904

Amy Lewis: over a minute for that movie

was too long for me, and I like was

:

01:14:38,994 --> 01:14:41,514

stewing in my chair the whole time.

:

01:14:41,514 --> 01:14:45,984

It's like, I do not want, I have

no interest in how this, these

:

01:14:45,984 --> 01:14:48,114

people are classified and no.

:

01:14:48,264 --> 01:14:48,654

Mm-hmm.

:

01:14:48,864 --> 01:14:49,104

Nope.

:

01:14:49,193 --> 01:14:50,004

Doesn't do it for me.

:

01:14:50,274 --> 01:14:52,074

I don't get it makes

:

01:14:52,089 --> 01:14:52,749

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:14:52,884 --> 01:14:53,364

Amy Lewis: very

:

01:14:53,409 --> 01:14:54,459

Katie: it is wild.

:

01:14:55,389 --> 01:14:59,679

It's wild how, you know, everybody has

such different tastes in, in movies

:

01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:04,239

and how they, you know, there's so

many different VE Venn diagrams that.

:

01:15:05,334 --> 01:15:07,104

Some word crossovers in some cases.

:

01:15:07,284 --> 01:15:07,734

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

01:15:07,914 --> 01:15:13,854

Katie: but so Dennis, the menna casting

wise I, Leslie Nielsen I saw was

:

01:15:13,884 --> 01:15:15,789

originally offered the role for Mr.

:

01:15:15,789 --> 01:15:16,314

Wilson.

:

01:15:16,524 --> 01:15:17,964

I'm very glad that it's

:

01:15:18,264 --> 01:15:18,879

Walter Mattau.

:

01:15:19,134 --> 01:15:19,554

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:15:19,644 --> 01:15:22,614

He doesn't, and Leslie Nielsen's,

you know, great and everything, but

:

01:15:22,614 --> 01:15:29,874

he doesn't have the same, think like

genius comedy, I think presence that

:

01:15:29,874 --> 01:15:33,644

like a Walter Mattau does he's just

kind of just slapstick, I feel like.

:

01:15:33,764 --> 01:15:34,424

Period.

:

01:15:34,454 --> 01:15:35,324

Which is, Which is,

:

01:15:35,324 --> 01:15:35,744

great,

:

01:15:35,919 --> 01:15:36,339

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:15:36,374 --> 01:15:36,464

Amy Lewis: is

:

01:15:36,464 --> 01:15:36,914

fine.

:

01:15:37,064 --> 01:15:39,614

But Walter Mattau is like

a good combination of, of

:

01:15:40,394 --> 01:15:41,864

subtlety that it's like.

:

01:15:42,404 --> 01:15:43,034

Katie: Subtlety.

:

01:15:43,034 --> 01:15:43,693

That's it.

:

01:15:43,693 --> 01:15:44,474

That's what it is.

:

01:15:44,629 --> 01:15:45,049

Mm-hmm.

:

01:15:45,524 --> 01:15:46,484

Amy Lewis: Like that scene, the

:

01:15:46,484 --> 01:15:52,214

scene where he wins the garden, whatever

thing, and he's like really affectionate,

:

01:15:52,214 --> 01:15:55,334

like smiling next to his wife, and then

when he turns around and stands up in

:

01:15:55,334 --> 01:15:57,524

front of everybody, his demeanor changes.

:

01:15:58,544 --> 01:15:59,894

immediately to be more serious

:

01:16:00,059 --> 01:16:00,479

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:16:00,494 --> 01:16:00,824

Amy Lewis: so

:

01:16:00,824 --> 01:16:01,124

spot

:

01:16:01,124 --> 01:16:01,334

on.

:

01:16:01,334 --> 01:16:05,654

And it is just so, just so

well executed that Yeah.

:

01:16:05,654 --> 01:16:06,104

Thank God.

:

01:16:06,104 --> 01:16:08,104

Walter Mattau was was cast in the, is

:

01:16:08,164 --> 01:16:08,974

Katie: Yeah, agreed.

:

01:16:09,214 --> 01:16:09,514

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:16:09,634 --> 01:16:10,024

Katie: Agreed.

:

01:16:10,354 --> 01:16:14,224

Some other, like big hitters were

considered too, Mickey Rooney, Mel

:

01:16:14,224 --> 01:16:19,443

Brooks, Tim Conway ed Asner all considered

like all, all kind of from that same

:

01:16:19,744 --> 01:16:20,314

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

01:16:20,374 --> 01:16:20,854

Katie: silk.

:

01:16:21,094 --> 01:16:21,634

You know,

:

01:16:21,664 --> 01:16:22,234

Amy Lewis: Yeah, I,

:

01:16:22,954 --> 01:16:26,684

Katie: Tim Curry was considered

for Switchblade Sam after he was

:

01:16:26,684 --> 01:16:31,034

in Home Alone, two lost in New

York, another John Hughes movie.

:

01:16:31,154 --> 01:16:31,364

Amy Lewis: yeah.

:

01:16:31,364 --> 01:16:33,434

And took a, let's go back to

Switchblade Sam for a second.

:

01:16:33,539 --> 01:16:33,829

Okay.

:

01:16:35,534 --> 01:16:38,564

But again, the name too,

it's like that is just.

:

01:16:39,704 --> 01:16:40,874

A horrible name.

:

01:16:40,904 --> 01:16:42,884

Couldn't it have just

been like hobo number one?

:

01:16:42,884 --> 01:16:44,954

Like why did he have to

be called Switchblade Sam?

:

01:16:46,034 --> 01:16:48,494

Katie: It's never said

in the movie, is it?

:

01:16:48,644 --> 01:16:50,054

Amy Lewis: yeah, exactly.

:

01:16:50,054 --> 01:16:52,934

That sounds like the name of a

horror movie is called Switchblade.

:

01:16:52,934 --> 01:16:56,054

If they should just make a movie

separate called Switchblade Sam,

:

01:16:57,674 --> 01:17:03,614

that character just, I mean, goes,

you know, goes nuts and you know,

:

01:17:04,604 --> 01:17:05,354

Katie: Agreed.

:

01:17:05,384 --> 01:17:05,684

Amy Lewis: know.

:

01:17:06,193 --> 01:17:06,824

Katie: Agreed.

:

01:17:06,854 --> 01:17:07,004

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

01:17:07,124 --> 01:17:12,584

Katie: Well, so do you think it would've

been better with another, you know,

:

01:17:12,854 --> 01:17:17,264

either a Tim Cur, Tim Curry, or like Danny

DeVito, Michael Keaton, bill Murray, Jack

:

01:17:17,264 --> 01:17:21,314

Nicholson, Michael Richards, Daniel Stern,

Willem, Defoe, those were all considered.

:

01:17:21,674 --> 01:17:25,214

Do you think it would've worked

better with any of those or,

:

01:17:25,693 --> 01:17:27,943

Amy Lewis: I think it would've

been, I don't think anybody could

:

01:17:27,943 --> 01:17:28,934

have salvaged that 'cause it

:

01:17:29,204 --> 01:17:29,474

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

01:17:29,594 --> 01:17:29,804

Amy Lewis: make

:

01:17:29,804 --> 01:17:30,344

sense.

:

01:17:31,004 --> 01:17:33,914

And I think that's a testament

to how, how brilliant of an

:

01:17:33,914 --> 01:17:36,104

actor Christopher Lloyd is like

:

01:17:36,134 --> 01:17:36,404

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:17:36,584 --> 01:17:36,974

Amy Lewis: so

:

01:17:36,974 --> 01:17:37,334

good.

:

01:17:37,384 --> 01:17:40,804

You know, it just didn't

have a place in this movie.

:

01:17:40,804 --> 01:17:42,514

So I, I don't know, like

:

01:17:42,693 --> 01:17:43,384

Katie: Yeah, you're right.

:

01:17:43,384 --> 01:17:48,364

It didn't like, I, despite my being

like, oh, that's a little too Uncle

:

01:17:48,394 --> 01:17:52,014

Festy in some cases, but but yeah,

I, I thought he did a good job.

:

01:17:52,014 --> 01:17:53,754

It was just like, what,

what's happening here?

:

01:17:53,784 --> 01:17:54,084

Yeah.

:

01:17:54,084 --> 01:17:54,204

Mm-hmm.

:

01:17:54,354 --> 01:17:57,324

I did see that a number

of people for Alice.

:

01:17:57,699 --> 01:17:57,779

Amy Lewis: Hmm.

:

01:17:57,834 --> 01:18:02,394

Katie: Basically all the, like all of

the blonde popular women of the time,

:

01:18:02,424 --> 01:18:07,314

Melanie Griffith, Madonna, Michelle

Pfeiffer, Kelly Preston, Sharon Stone,

:

01:18:07,854 --> 01:18:08,074

Amy Lewis: Mm.

:

01:18:08,394 --> 01:18:12,174

Katie: all of them considered, I'm

not a hugely a Thompson person.

:

01:18:12,174 --> 01:18:15,574

Like I don't dislike her, but

she's not I don't love her.

:

01:18:15,814 --> 01:18:20,584

So I could have taken any of those other,

Kelly Preston probably would've been good.

:

01:18:20,659 --> 01:18:21,289

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:18:21,409 --> 01:18:21,648

Yep.

:

01:18:22,519 --> 01:18:22,759

I,

:

01:18:22,894 --> 01:18:23,644

Katie: Honestly.

:

01:18:23,644 --> 01:18:27,364

Sharon Stone has a little, maybe that,

that could have been interesting.

:

01:18:27,559 --> 01:18:30,199

Amy Lewis: Yeah, she yeah, she could

have, well, that, that would've been

:

01:18:30,199 --> 01:18:32,089

very interesting if she was Alice.

:

01:18:32,449 --> 01:18:32,839

Yeah.

:

01:18:33,829 --> 01:18:38,349

I think I could see where Leah

Thompson feels a little bit more kinda

:

01:18:38,394 --> 01:18:38,934

Katie: Sweet.

:

01:18:38,949 --> 01:18:39,129

Amy Lewis: girl

:

01:18:39,129 --> 01:18:39,369

next

:

01:18:39,369 --> 01:18:40,509

door kind of thing, you know?

:

01:18:40,704 --> 01:18:41,004

Katie: Mm-hmm.

:

01:18:41,664 --> 01:18:42,114

Yeah.

:

01:18:42,279 --> 01:18:43,929

Amy Lewis: Madonna really, I mean.

:

01:18:44,574 --> 01:18:44,844

Katie: Yeah.

:

01:18:44,844 --> 01:18:47,394

Sharon Stone and Madonna seem similar.

:

01:18:47,904 --> 01:18:51,054

And then Melanie Griffith and

Kelly Preston and Leah Thompson

:

01:18:51,054 --> 01:18:52,284

seem kind of similar, but

:

01:18:52,299 --> 01:18:52,719

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:18:52,794 --> 01:18:53,273

Katie: yeah.

:

01:18:53,304 --> 01:18:54,054

Interesting.

:

01:18:54,219 --> 01:18:54,459

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:18:54,664 --> 01:18:58,744

Katie: Tim Allen, Jerry Seinfeld,

ed O'Neill and Rick Baris

:

01:18:59,674 --> 01:19:00,934

were considered for Henry,

:

01:19:01,054 --> 01:19:01,443

Amy Lewis: Mm.

:

01:19:02,014 --> 01:19:03,273

Katie: which Henry was a,

:

01:19:05,644 --> 01:19:07,144

it was such a nothing role.

:

01:19:07,204 --> 01:19:09,004

Those are all very famous

people for such a nothing

:

01:19:09,124 --> 01:19:09,304

Amy Lewis: Mm-hmm.

:

01:19:09,959 --> 01:19:10,239

Katie: role.

:

01:19:10,419 --> 01:19:11,344

That's interesting.

:

01:19:11,374 --> 01:19:11,884

Amy Lewis: role.

:

01:19:11,943 --> 01:19:13,294

Yeah, a

:

01:19:13,384 --> 01:19:13,924

Katie: I love that.

:

01:19:13,954 --> 01:19:14,374

Amy Lewis: big zero.

:

01:19:14,374 --> 01:19:17,934

My mom is will never say you

know, would never say anything

:

01:19:18,954 --> 01:19:22,494

like disrespectful or like an

expletive or anything about anybody.

:

01:19:22,494 --> 01:19:26,874

It's always very like

appropriate and like done.

:

01:19:26,874 --> 01:19:30,704

So instead of saying you know,

he's a big blah, blah, blah, blah.

:

01:19:30,704 --> 01:19:32,744

Expletive, expletive

shows he's a big zero.

:

01:19:33,523 --> 01:19:33,794

So yeah,

:

01:19:33,849 --> 01:19:34,784

Katie: That's a, that isn't.

:

01:19:35,144 --> 01:19:37,244

Amy Lewis: But Rick Moranis, I

could have seen I mean he would've

:

01:19:37,244 --> 01:19:39,914

probably at least done something with

that to make it more interesting.

:

01:19:39,914 --> 01:19:43,574

Just 'cause he's like at

being kind of a nerdy,

:

01:19:43,684 --> 01:19:44,104

Katie: mm-hmm.

:

01:19:44,394 --> 01:19:47,844

Amy Lewis: and, and, and Henry is

kind of a nerdy sort of person, so

:

01:19:47,844 --> 01:19:52,404

I think he would've been, at least

made it more interesting, I think.

:

01:19:53,349 --> 01:19:53,829

Katie: Good point.

:

01:19:53,829 --> 01:19:53,949

Yeah.

:

01:19:53,949 --> 01:19:54,099

There.

:

01:19:55,089 --> 01:19:57,639

I thought the dad looked the part, but

:

01:19:58,164 --> 01:19:58,674

Amy Lewis: That's probably the

:

01:19:58,689 --> 01:19:58,869

Katie: just

:

01:19:58,869 --> 01:19:59,318

Amy Lewis: got it.

:

01:19:59,364 --> 01:19:59,693

Katie: yeah.

:

01:19:59,874 --> 01:20:01,044

Mm-hmm.

:

01:20:01,045 --> 01:20:01,046

Mm-hmm.

:

01:20:01,449 --> 01:20:02,019

Amy Lewis: Which is, yeah.

:

01:20:02,484 --> 01:20:08,454

Katie: Well, I will say rewatching

this last night, Dennis Thees was very.

:

01:20:09,129 --> 01:20:15,099

A very different experience to my original

matinee viewing experience in:

:

01:20:15,264 --> 01:20:15,554

Amy Lewis: Yeah.

:

01:20:15,699 --> 01:20:18,219

Katie: I am still glad

that I did revisit it.

:

01:20:18,269 --> 01:20:21,449

And Amy, thank you for

revisiting it with me,

:

01:20:21,749 --> 01:20:22,229

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

01:20:22,379 --> 01:20:26,999

Katie: to reminisce both

Dennis Menace and:

:

01:20:26,999 --> 01:20:27,089

It's

:

01:20:27,119 --> 01:20:27,509

Amy Lewis: Hmm.

:

01:20:27,749 --> 01:20:30,359

Katie: a little, little little

gem of our childhood memories.

:

01:20:30,449 --> 01:20:30,989

Amy Lewis: Yes.

:

01:20:31,409 --> 01:20:33,389

Katie: do you have closing

thoughts about the movie?

:

01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,500

And then don't forget to tell us

where we can find you and, and

:

01:20:36,515 --> 01:20:38,309

I don't know, a little preview

of what you've got upcoming.

:

01:20:38,765 --> 01:20:39,095

Amy Lewis: Sure.

:

01:20:39,095 --> 01:20:39,455

Yeah.

:

01:20:39,755 --> 01:20:40,835

So, let's see.

:

01:20:40,835 --> 01:20:45,705

I think in conclusion I am you

know, I think it's been made very

:

01:20:45,705 --> 01:20:48,045

clear that I'm, you know, not

a, not a huge fan of this movie.

:

01:20:48,315 --> 01:20:52,700

And I think the reason why, if

I wasn't such a huge Dennis, the

:

01:20:52,725 --> 01:20:58,285

Meni fan, I probably would not be

as critical as I, as I would be.

:

01:20:58,285 --> 01:21:00,715

I probably would've just been

like, oh yeah, you know, it's a kid

:

01:21:00,715 --> 01:21:02,275

movie from the nineties, whatever.

:

01:21:02,545 --> 01:21:04,105

You just got some funny

moments or whatever.

:

01:21:04,105 --> 01:21:08,825

But I think because I have that

deep dorky long standing connection

:

01:21:08,825 --> 01:21:12,975

with Dennis and Menis, I think it's

hard for me to sort of, speak, you

:

01:21:12,975 --> 01:21:14,415

know, super highly of this movie.

:

01:21:14,835 --> 01:21:17,925

So is it worth watching as an adult?

:

01:21:19,845 --> 01:21:22,585

I mean, I guess if there's

nothing else to watch sure.

:

01:21:22,635 --> 01:21:26,115

For me, just, you know, focusing

on Walter Maow will, will serve you

:

01:21:26,115 --> 01:21:26,445

well.

:

01:21:27,705 --> 01:21:31,965

and so where you can find me the best

place to go probably is my website,

:

01:21:31,965 --> 01:21:34,725

pop culture retrospective.com.

:

01:21:34,825 --> 01:21:37,975

You can find all of my

past episodes blog posts.

:

01:21:39,355 --> 01:21:45,005

Links to my Instagram account Twitter

X, whatever you call it um, like that.

:

01:21:45,005 --> 01:21:48,275

I also have a YouTube channel that I

try to get episodes posted onto and

:

01:21:48,275 --> 01:21:49,805

little clips of stuff here and there.

:

01:21:50,235 --> 01:21:52,875

And then shows that I'm

currently working on.

:

01:21:52,975 --> 01:21:55,355

I am working on a show

about my show's very, I.

:

01:21:56,355 --> 01:21:59,565

it's very heavily like researched

based, which is why it's kind of on a,

:

01:22:00,975 --> 01:22:03,425

sort of un undetermined release cycle.

:

01:22:03,485 --> 01:22:06,845

I try to get out a couple episodes

a month as time, time allows.

:

01:22:07,155 --> 01:22:10,184

I'm working on an episode

about Shell Silverstein, which

:

01:22:10,184 --> 01:22:11,295

has been really interesting.

:

01:22:11,355 --> 01:22:15,365

And also working on a retro

Tech part two episode.

:

01:22:15,705 --> 01:22:18,065

We're gonna be talking about some

of the kids' electronics that

:

01:22:18,065 --> 01:22:19,445

came out in the, in the eighties.

:

01:22:19,725 --> 01:22:21,555

Like the speak and spell

and things like that.

:

01:22:21,555 --> 01:22:21,825

And kinda

:

01:22:21,875 --> 01:22:22,684

Katie: Oh, fun.

:

01:22:22,740 --> 01:22:23,070

Amy Lewis: behind?

:

01:22:23,070 --> 01:22:23,400

Yeah.

:

01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,290

What's the backstory

behind the speak and spell?

:

01:22:25,290 --> 01:22:26,220

How did that come about?

:

01:22:26,250 --> 01:22:30,460

You know, always like to kind of teach

listeners about pop culture and stuff.

:

01:22:30,740 --> 01:22:34,670

And then I'm also gonna be having

an author on my show coming up.

:

01:22:35,010 --> 01:22:38,880

He's written a book that was set in

:

:

01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:39,820

And a fun read.

:

01:22:39,820 --> 01:22:40,480

So, I.

:

01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,470

There's always, always something in

the works on my show that's focused on

:

01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:49,330

the eighties and nineties and early two

thousands in memory of my sister and

:

01:22:49,330 --> 01:22:51,430

yeah, pop culture retrospective.com.

:

01:22:52,345 --> 01:22:55,880

Katie: I'll have Amy's information

in the show notes for you listeners.

:

01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:00,010

Yeah, you have a lot of your episodes

are varied, so there's, there really is

:

01:23:00,010 --> 01:23:04,000

kind of a little for everyone, whether

it's music or movies or TV shows.

:

01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,960

I especially loved the

today's special episode.

:

01:23:07,975 --> 01:23:08,270

Amy Lewis: nice.

:

01:23:08,275 --> 01:23:08,434

Oh god.

:

01:23:08,630 --> 01:23:09,500

that's

:

01:23:09,559 --> 01:23:09,800

that's

:

01:23:09,970 --> 01:23:10,360

Katie: Yeah,

:

01:23:10,460 --> 01:23:10,550

Amy Lewis: the

:

01:23:10,809 --> 01:23:11,110

Katie: yeah.

:

01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:11,559

I know.

:

01:23:11,559 --> 01:23:11,830

I,

:

01:23:11,870 --> 01:23:12,080

Amy Lewis: like I

:

01:23:12,130 --> 01:23:12,370

Katie: yeah.

:

01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:13,550

Amy Lewis: groove was around that

:

01:23:13,550 --> 01:23:17,120

episode is when I kind of like

felt a little bit more comfortable.

:

01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:17,180

Yeah.

:

01:23:17,875 --> 01:23:18,805

Katie: Really liked it.

:

01:23:19,175 --> 01:23:23,105

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:

01:23:23,315 --> 01:23:26,645

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01:23:26,855 --> 01:23:32,135

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:

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:

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:

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like Ed Swick Brian De Palma.

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Let's see, Michael Mann.

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:

01:23:46,415 --> 01:23:47,285

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